NME Top 100 British Albums Ever List

100) Derek and Clive - (Live) 1976 *(marked as a forgotten gem.)
99) Patrick Wolf - Lycanthropy 2004
98) Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me 2001
97) Led Zeppelin - IV 1971
96) Adam and The Ants - Kings of The Wild Frontier 1980 *
95) Julian Cope - Jehovahkill 1992
94) The Futureheads - S/T 2004
93) Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets 1974*
92) Oasis (What's The Story) Morning Glory? 1995
91) The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace 1985
90) Supergrass - I Should Coco 1995
89) Blur - Parklife 1994
88) Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman 1993
87) The Small Faces - Ogden's Nut Gone Flake 1968
86) George Harrison - All Things Must Pass 1970
85) ABC - The Lexicon of Love 1982
84) Redskins - Neither Washington Nor Moscow... 1974 *
83) Wire - Pink Flag 1977
82) The Happy Mondays - Pills 'n' Thrills and Bellyaches 1990
81) Antony and The Johnsons - I Am A Bird Now 2005
80) Black Sabbath - Paranoid 1970
79) Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque 1991
78) Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 1992 *
77) The Beta Band - The 3 E.P.s 1998
76) Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time 1997
75) Tricky - Maxinquaye 1995
74) Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation 1994
73) Kasier Chiefs - Employment 2005
72) Joy Divison - Closer 1980
71) Buzzcocks - Love Bites 1978
70) Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription 1987
69) Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure 1972
68) The Pretty Things - SF Sorrow 1968 *
67) Coldplay - A Rush Of Blood To The Head 2002
66) Elvis Costello - This Year's Model 1978
65) Radiohad - Kid A 2000
64) Gang Of Four - Entertainment! 1978
63) David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars 1972
62) Saint Etienne - Fox Base Alpha 1991
61) Echo and The Bunnymen - Ocean Rain 1984
60) The Human League - Dare! 1981 *
59) The Clash - S/T 1977
58) Suede - Dog Man Star 1994
57) The Cure - The Head On The Door 1985
56) Portishead - Dummy 1994
55) Bloc Party - Silent Alarm 2005{In the text this reffered to as a self titled album}
54) Morrissey - Vauxhall & I 1994
53) The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed 1969
52) Madness - One Step Beyond 1979
51) Billy Bragg - Talking With The Taxman About Poetry 1986
50) The La's - S/T 1990
49) The Who - My Generation 1965
48) Elastica - S/T 1995
47) The Libertines S/T 2004
46) Pulp His 'N' Hers 1994
45) The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free 2004
44) Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures 1979
43) The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St. 1972
42) The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy 1985
41) Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love 1985
40) Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner 2003
39) Ride - Nowhere 1990
38) Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentleman We Are Floating In Space 1997
37) Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible 1994
36) The Beatles - S/T 1968
35) Radiohead - OK Computer 1997
34) The Jam - All Mod Cons 1978
33) Coldplay - Parachutes 2000
32) The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle 1968 *
31) Massive Attack - Blue Lines 1991
30) Suede - S/T 1993
29) Led Zeppelin - II 1969
28) Nick Drake - Bryter Layter 1970
27) Polly Harvey - Dry 1992
26) The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow 1984
25) The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society 1968
24) Pet Shop Boys - Please 1986
23) New Order - Technique 1989
22) Super Furry Animals - Radiator 1997
21) Muse - Absolution 2003
20) The Beatles - Rubber Soul 1965
19) The Smiths - Strangeways Here We Come 1987
18) Franz Ferdinand - S/T 2004
17) The Streets - Original Pirate Material 2002
16) Dexy's Midnight Runners - Searching For The Young Soul Rebels 1980
15) Primal Scream - Scremadelica 1991
14) David Bowie - Hunky Dory 1971
13) The Verve - A Northern Soul 1995
12) The Specials - S/T 1979
11) Radiohead - The Bends 1995
10) The Libertines - Up The Bracket 2002
9) The Beatles - Revolver 1966
8) The Clash - London Calling 1979
7) Pulp - Different Class 1995
6) Blur - Modern Life Is Rubbish 1993 *
5) Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 2006
4) Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks 1978
3) Oasis - Definetly Maybe 1994
2) The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead 1986
1) The Stone Roses - S/T 1989

-- MitchellStirling (Stirling_mitchel...) (webmail), January 25th, 2006 7:32 PM

with long urls use tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/

i.e the above mirror article becomes
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is that the whale from the river thames BEFORE it took the wrong turning into the north sea...?

ho hum

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no russ abbot, aled jones, charlotte church, michael barrymore, flock of seagulls.

hell, no fucking james blunt in the top 3, what's going on?

patrick wolf was born in County Cork, Ireland. Therefore not British born.

Modern Life Is Rubbish, Oddessy & Oracle, Dare, SF Sorrow, Selected Ambient Works vol 2, Kings Of The Wild Frontier = FORGOTTEN GEMS?

Regarding the Cure, it's interesting that The Head on the Door is the album picked when over the years it has been Disintegration that most have said is their classic. For me both would be in the Top 100 but I'm geekie about the Cure so.

Since it is so titled to the 90's where the hell is Loveless?

I think they really need to sort out this "British vs British Isles vs UK" thing though.

1960's - 9
1970's - 20
1980's - 17
1990's - 31
2000's - 15

I forgot that fact but I'm American so what the hell do I know anyways. ;-)

Great Britain = England, Wales, Scotland
United Kingdom = The above + Northern Ireland [Commonly Known as British as a description]

Not British:
Republic of Ireland - A Country with it's own Govt

However, all of the above included as a geographical entity known as "The British Isles" e.g for the Mercury Music Prize - Republic of Ireland & UK artists eligible.

Therefore when NME draws up the Best British Albums don't expect to see U2, My Bloody Valentine, Boomtown Rats, Thin Lizzy, Cactus World News, Sinead O'Connor, Enya, Clannad, The Whipping Boy etc

Hot Press Readers Top 100 Irish Albums of All Time.
http://digbig.com/4gbxc

ridiculous

ireland.

thatn doesn't count

I think this omission has more to do with NME's general shitness.

I think THIS may be the biggest lump.

Too right. It should've been 'Origin Of Symmetry'.

The Bends > Ok Computer
Guitar, Melodies > Other shit

Too right. It should've been 'Origin Of Symmetry'.

OTM!

Still - the Kaiser Chiefs would be nowhere near my top 100 albums of 2005 let alone all time!!

Long urls behave exactly the same way as tinyurls when you click on them.

Yes it does. For the purpose of that list anyways.

Proves NME are not completely lost after all. I have always considered "Head On The Door" their pinnacle. The Cure have always been an excellent pop band when they have tried, whereas the somewhat overproduced "Pornography"-meets-"Be Here Now" orchestral goth of "Disintegration" bores me when I try to listen to it as a whole.

1) The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St. 1972
2) The Specials - S/T 1979
3) The Clash - London Calling 1979
4) Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks 1978
5) The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed 1969
6) Led Zeppelin - II 1969
7) The Cure - The Head On The Door 1985
8) David Bowie - Hunky Dory 1971
9) The Beatles - Rubber Soul 1965
10) Polly Harvey - Dry 1992
11) The Stone Roses - S/T 1989
12) Elvis Costello - This Year's Model 1978
13) Black Sabbath - Paranoid 1970
14) Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner 2003
15) Primal Scream - Scremadelica 1991
16) The Beatles - Revolver 1966
17) Elastica - S/T 1995
18-27) tie:

Led Zeppelin - IV 1971
The Futureheads - S/T 2004
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 1992 *
The Beta Band - The 3 E.P.s 1998
Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time 1997
David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars 1972
Portishead - Dummy 1994
The Who - My Generation 1965
Ride - Nowhere 1990
The Streets - Original Pirate Material 2002

...

5) Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 2006

I know it's a shameful thing to get angry at these lists, but I have to say that one stings.

-- Geir Hongro

*scratches head*

Then realizes where this comment is coming from so what can I say. That being said I wouldn't want Geir any other way!

Never thought the Cure would be compared to a very bad Oasis record.

Hahaha, I'll give them "forgotten" on this one! Haven't heard of them since reading about them in NME in '86 or something (ie the year given here is way off). Is it really a "gem"? What an unsuspected choice.

Nothing about it (the list) is very surprising, really, is it?

Are The Undertones count Irish too?

Also Hunky Dory as Bowie's best - uh? ( for me would come after Low/Heroes/Station/Ziggy/Lodger/Dogs/Young Americans/Aladdin in some sort of order)

I bow to your superior knowledge. Nevertheless 'though (according to AMG) he grew up in California and relocated to New York; but the name of the band and the guests he has on the album (Rufus Wainwright, Devendra Banhart, Lou "New York" Reed) are hardly condsive to producing something quintessentially British, are they?

"There's two Clash albums on that list."

Bugger, you're right, of course. OK then, the 1st / s/t one's OK; but London Calling most definitely isn't.

I don't think it's necessarily supposed to be his best, merely his most British.... although, re-reading the rest of the list, maybe I'm assuming that the NME editorship would have actually bothered to give the subject a little bit of thought, when in fact this clearly isn't the case.... nevertheless, his most British album by absolute miles must surely be his 1st / self-titled / (aka) Love Me 'Til Tuesday?

This is NME shit by numbers, pure and simple. CLOSE THREAD!

Some of the defenders are right, there are good albums but no thought was put behind the order. I posted which decade these albums came out in for a reason. Rock was new in the 60's going into the 70’s so the best albums where from that period, period. There is no way the 90’s deserve 31 spots with the 2000’s having 15 spots so far (Kasier Chiefs?), so by the end this decade it will be the best decade ever? If you are a writer for a major publication, no matter how much you like the AM album, number 5 compared to history is ridiculous.

That's a really bad argument. Best novels = written in 1740s? Best paintings = done on cave walls? Best movies = 5 minutes of a bloke washing a horse?

True. Siouxsie (The Scream) should be in, along with The Raincoats (either s/t or Odyshape), The Slits maybe. Spice Girls? Who else?

XTC should be in there : Black Sea prob. GO2 is better.

xpost Teardrop Explodes - YES!

OT(fucking)M

It's bullshit, undeserving of respect or serious consideration.

It's not looking good, is it?

The built-in redundancy of these lists drives me nuts. It HAS to be one artist-one album. I mean what is the sense in having two Pulp, two Swide and two of the 'britpop' Blur albums in there, when so little new ground is covered between each pair. They're all shit records anyway, but forgodsake CHOOSE between them Likewise Led Zep II and IV. I can see the sense in Bowie having say Ziggy and Low in there, maybe...but not Ziggy and Hunky Dory.

I'd have Soft Machine, Cream, Buggles, Yardbirds, Adverts, Sandie Shaw, The Move, Leftfield, Floyd in there.

Kirsty McColl.

Actually, I haven't really read it in so long I don't know if they're being as bullish as they were in the Britpop years w/r/t sidelining all other music that is not guitar-pop-rock in origin.

It's more that they're just (as Nick put it) re-writing history via ommission of all that "other" stuff (electronics, women, black music) and hoping it's readers are dumb enough not to notice.

I actually feel like they've gone too far with it for even the stereotypical 17 year old in Doncaster not to feel like their intelligence is being insulted this time... but time will tell!

xpost - Dr.C, I'm probably just trying to convince myself (and it hasn't worked) that this list is irrelevant, and doesn't need dissecting. Trust me it gets my goat too!!

I'm not sure of all of that.

They have some major flaw, some of which these post have pointed out but to totally dismiss all of it is rather hollow.

They realize the brillance of Super Furry Animals but forgot the Boo Raldeys so I have some major concerns to do dismiss the whole is list is a cop out, IMO.

But when the methodology has been so transparently rigged... The whole thing loses a credibility which is kind of important to your (my) belief in the honesty of the process.

I mean the Q list makes more 'sense' than this, and the bias is understandable because it's a naturally occuring one. This NME list is like a political statement.

We are coming from the same place, just going about it differently.

RUBBISH.

No John Martyn either.

No pop either...

seems british means... things twenty something men like or were told to like.

Obvious, but OTM (and the rest of it too).

1. The list pretends The Beatles never existed
2. At least half of the albums on the list are by African American acts.

Better realise you'll never see a list like that.

-- Danny boy

Great minds think the same, ect.

I'm such a fan that I think three albums from the 90's are some of the best music ever made, yes ever. Over the years I realize that not many people share the same belief but they are the best band of the 90's. No not for everyone but who the hell are as creative and took the chances that they did and succeeded more time than not?

Do I hear the crunch crunch of jackboots?

Anyway, if I made a list I'd probly exclude the Beatles because why not?

Also nb shocking lack of VdGG, pink floyd, yes, genesis etc, despite there supposedly being a critical re-evaluation of pr*g in the last few years. Still a 4-letter word @ nme towers, eh.

1. Both are clearly too long, partly as a result of the songs being too long
2. Both are among those very few records I can think of where the term "overproduced" makes sense.

And if you want metal albums in the list, then read Kerrang.

Observer Music Monthly Top 100 British Albums

Best British Albums Ever Poll.

Even you can't say Oasis >>> Beatles surely??

1. Both are clearly too long, partly as a result of the songs being too long
2. Both are among those very few records I can think of where the term "overproduced" makes sense.

Kerrang! The 100 Best British Rock Albums Ever!

As Voted By The Readers – 1ssue #1044 - Feb 19 2005

1. Black Sabbath – Black Sabbath - 1970
2. Iron Maide – Number Of The Beast – 1982
3. Sex Pistols – Never Mind The Bollocks… - 1977
4. Led Zeppelin – IV – 1971
5. Black Sabbath – Paranoid – 1970
6. Muse – Absolution – 2003
7. The Clash – London Calling – 1979
8. Queen – Sheer Heart Attack – 1974
9. Iron Maiden – 1980
10. Manic Street Preachers – The Holy Bible – 1994
11. Led Zeppelin – Physical Graffiti – 1975
12. Judas Priest – British Steel – 1980
13. Def Leppard – Hysteria – 1987
14. Black Sabbath – Vol IV – 1972
15. The Darkness – Permission To Land – 2003
16. Ozzy Osbourne – Blizzard Of Oz – 1980
17. The Wildhearts – Earth Vs The Wildhearts – 1993
18. Lostprophets – Start Something – 2004
19. Queen – A Night At The Opera – 1975
20. Muse – Origin Of Symmetry – 2001
21. Ash – Free All Angels – 2001
22. Motorhead – Ace Of Spades – 1980
23. Stereophonics – Performance And Cocktails – 1999
24. Manic Street Preachers – Everything Must Go – 1996
25. Feeder – Echo Park – 2001
26. Led Zeppelin – II – 1969
27. Cradle Of Filth – Cruelty And The Beast – 1998
28. Iron Maden – Brave New World – 2000
29. The Clash – The Clash – 1977
30. Funeral For A Friend – Casually Dressed And Deep In Conversation – 2003
31. Therapy? – Troublegum – 1994
32. Feeder – Comfort In Sound – 2003
33. Ozzy Osbourne – Diary Of A Madman – 1981
34. Deep Purple – Machine Head – 1972
35. The Dammed – Machine Gun Etiquette – 1979
36. Def Leppard – Pyromania – 1983
37. Hundred Reasons – Ideas Above Our Station - 2002
38. Pink Floyd – Dark Side Of The Moon – 1973
39. The Prodigy – Fat Of The Land – 1997
40. Muse – Showbiz – 1999
41. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin – 1969
42. Manic Street Preachers – Generation Terrorists – 1992
43. Ash – 1977 – 1996
44. Iron Maiden –Killers – 1981
45. Pitchshifter – Www.Pitchifter.Com – 1998
46. Judas Priest – Screaming For Vengeance – 1982
47. Idlewild – Hope Is Important – 1998
48. Biffy Clyro – Infinity Land – 2004
49. Reef – Glow – 1997
50. Napalm Death – Scum – 1987
51. Lost Prophets – The Fake Sound Of Progress – 2001
52. Saxon – Wheels Of Steel – 1980
53. The Cult – Electric – 1987
54. Skunk Anansie – Paranoid And Sunburnt – 1995
55. Bush – Sixteen Stone – 1994
56. Deep Purple – Deep Purple In Rock – 1970
57. ‘A’ – Hi Fi Serious – 2002
58. Hell Is For Heroes – The Neon Handshake – 2003
59. Whitesnake – 1987 – 1987
60. Terrorvision – How To Make Friend And Influence People – 1994
61. Free – Fire And Water – 1970
62. Led Zeppelin – Houses Of The Holy – 1973
63. Black Sabbath – Master Of Reality – 1971
64. Judas Priest – Stained Class – 1978
65. Idlewild – 100 Broken Windows – 2000
66. Skunk Anansie – Stoosh – 1996
67. Killing Joke – Killing Joke - 1980
68. Venom – Black Metal – 1982
69. Iron Monkey – Iron Monkey – 1997
70. The Wildhearts – P.H.U.Q. – 1995
71. Motorhead – Overkill – 1979
72. Queen – Queen II – 1974
73. Feeder – Yesterday Went Too Soon – 1999
74. Rainbow – Rising – 1976
75. Sisters Of Mercy – Floodland – 1987
76. Therapy? – Nurse – 1992
77. Biffy Clyro – Blackened Sky – 2002
78. Godflesh – Streetcleaner – 1990
79. Earthone9 – Arc’tan’gent – 2000
80. Bush – Razorblade Suitcase – 1997
81. Stereophonics – Word Gets Around – 1997
82. 3 Colours Red – Pure – 1997
83. Cathedral – The Ethereal Mirror – 1993
84. Thunder – Backstreet Symphony – 1990
85. Raging Speedhorn – Raging Speedhorn – 2000
86. Paradise Lost – Draconian Times – 1995
87. Feeder – Polythene – 1997
88. Stiff Little Fingers – Inflammable Material – 1979
89. ‘A’ – ‘A’ Vs Monkey Kong – 1999
90. Discharge – Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing – 1982
91. The Ruts – The Crack – 1979
92. Fudge Tunnel – Hate Songs In E Minor – 1991
93. Baby Chaos – Love Your Self Abuse – 1996
94. Carcass – Symphonies Of Sickness – 1989
95. Gang Of Four – Entertainment – 1979
96. Orange Goblin – Time Travelling Blues – 1998
97. The Exploited – Troops Of Tomorrow – 1982
98. Cradle Of Filth – Dusk And Her Embrace – 1996
99. Anathema – A Fine Day To Exit – 2001
100. Therapy? – Infernal Love – 1995

Better realise you'll never see a list like that.

Geir while you may not read magazines like Hip Hop Connection and Touch I would at least have thought you would be aware of them.

Of course he is. How else would he know where to send the nailbombs to?

It is not something to take seriously unless you are 18 and smoke pot everyday.

It is not something to take seriously unless you are 18 and smoke pot everyday.

That list or the actual Kerrang magazine?

1. my bloody valentine - loveless
2. rolling stones - let it bleed
3. radiohead - kid a
4. joy division - unknown pleasures
5. stone roses - the stone roses
6. radiohead - ok computer
7. david bowie - hunky dory
8. pulp - different class
9. new order - technique
10. beatles - revolver
11. tricky - maxinquaye
12. rolling stones - exile on main st
13. joy division - closer
14. rolling stones - sticky fingers
15. pet shop boys - very
16. magnetic fields - 69 love songs
17. dexy's midnight runners - searching for the young soul rebels
18. david bowie - the rise and fall of ziggy stardust...
19. boards of canada - music has the right to children
20. orbital - in sides
21. pet shop boys - behaviour
22. pulp - his n' hers
23. beatles - rubber soul
24. clash - london calling
25. massive attack - blue lines
26. beatles - sgt peppers lonely hearts club band
27. kate bush - the hounds of love
28. happy mondays - pills n' thrills n' bellyache
29. scritti politti - cupid and psyche 85
30. primal scream - screamadelica
31. portishead - dummy
32. human league - dare
33. boards of canada - geogaddi
34. abc - lexicon of love
35. smiths - the queen is dead
36. pet shop boys - please
37. radiohead - the bends
38. morrissey - vauxhall and i
39. scritti politti - provision
40. roxy music - roxy music
41. roxy music - for your pleasure
42. pil - metal box
43. new order - movement
44. kate bush - the dreaming
45. blur - parklife
46. kinks - village green preservation society
47. underworld - dubnobasswithmyheadman
48. klf - chill out
49. david bowie - low
50. streets - original pirate material
51. smiths - hatful of hollow
52. radiohead - amnesiac
53. pink floyd - wish you were here
54. clash - sandinista!
55. stereolab - emperor tomato ketchup
56. radiohead - hail to the thief
57. pink floyd - dark side of the moon
58. pet shop boys - actually
59. saint etienne - so tough
60. gang of four - entertainment
61. chemical brothers - dig your own hole
62. massive attack - mezzanine
63. spiritualized - ladies and gentlemen...
64. madness - one step beyond
65. dizzee rascal - boy in da corner
66. aphex twin - selected ambient works volume 2
67. saint etienne - foxbase alpha
68. led zeppelin - led zeppelin II
69. slits - cut
70. happy mondays - bummed
71. gary numan - the pleasure principle
72. fall - hex education hour
73. basement jaxx - rooty
74. prodigy - music for the jilted generation
75. streets - a grand don't come for free
76. suede - suede
77. smiths - strangeways here we come
78. disco inferno - d.i. go pop
79. belle and sebastian - the boy with the arab strap
80. orbital - 2/brown album
81. suede - dog man star
82. pj harvey - to bring you my love
83. talk talk - spirit of eden
84. spice girls - spice
85. soft cell - non-stop erotic cabaret
86. john martyn - solid air
87. john cale - paris 1919
88. jesus and mary chain - psychocandy
89. gorky's zygotic mynci - bwd times
90. fall - this nation's saving grace
91. suede - coming up
92. elastica - elastica
93. basement jaxx - remedy
94. wedding present - sea monsters
95. prodigy - experience
96. depeche mode - construction time again
97. girls aloud - what will the neighbours say?
98. beatles - the beatles
99. who - my generation
100. belle and sebastian - tigermilk

The Cure would probably get in somewhere with something - Oasis or The Pistols? not so sure

Loveless would actually be about 10th, I reckon. OK Computer would win.

Me too, having all this knowledge sucks ass!

Maybe (the ass part) isn't so bad. ;-)

x post

What knowledge?

Hex, Orbital Brown, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, Strange Times, Pornography, A Kiss in the Dreamhouse, Red Mecca, Infected, Treasure, New Gold Dream, Power Corruption & Lies, Spectral Mornings, i, Cupid & Psyche 85, Metal Box, JuJu, Pawn Hearts, Rock Bottom, Deceit, A Walk Across the Rooftops, Babble, Spirit of Eden, Peter Gabriel 3, Peter Gabriel 4, DI Go Pop, The Return of The Durutti Column, Sulk, Metamatic, No Pussyfooting, Gone to Earth, Violator, Lowlife, Steve Mcqueen, First and Last and Always, Surfing on Sine Windows, 76:14 , red, dark side of the moon, the lamb lies down on broadway

Age, it a cruel, cruel thing.

Sure, but I would also expect mags like that to be kind of reluctant towards having a "canon", which means they wouldn't produce all-time-best lists, but rather concentrate on what is current and new.

xp

moron.

this seems a salient observation and i agree. though it would be interesting to see Touch do a top 100 albums - one assumes it would deliberately exclude 'NME music' in the way NME deliberately excludes 'Touch music' - the only overlaps being the Bristolian trip-hoppers, Dizzee and Roots.

It is not something to take seriously unless you are 18 and smoke pot everyday.

Stevie OTM, do fuck off

ILM would ignore metal more than any other genre (yes even more than British hip-hop and rnb).

Yes some of the 4K and 5K album reviews of the more obscure artists may be OTM - but you can find out about those in Terrorizer or on the web.

Terrorizer £ 3.20 per mouth and Free CD
Kerrang £1.95 * 4 issues = is £7.80

But Terrorizer have covered all that Nightwish type shit. So it all evens out in my book.

I like the fact that kerrang is open to more indie/alt rock stuff(remember they have covered Cypress Hill and The Prodigy too) It's just a shame they seem to be more concerned with the bigger sellers or bands on big labels than some of the great stuff thats come out in recent years.
Isis, Electric Wizard, Jesu, Pelican, Sunno))) have never had Kerrang covers. It's time they did.

Have NME covered those bands at all?

pet shop boys! yes! in your face er... every rock band ever!

Isis, Electric Wizard, Jesu, Pelican, Sunno))) have never had Kerrang covers. It's time they did.

Rock Sound magazine covers all those bands, but unfortunately also covers a lot of generic emo / hardcore / commercial rock tripe.

Have NME covered those bands at all?

The day the NME puts any other of those on the front cover - will never arrive. Can you imagine the NME trying to promote/understand the brilliance of Jesu - to a bunch of Kaiser Chiefs / Oasis / Doherty / Strokes loving plebs

Although I could see pre Mark Sutherland era Melody Maker covering Jesu, also Sounds would have had them on the front cover.

Britain does need some weekly opposition to the trad-rock songs NME and the no quality control Kerrang.

[correction: Kerrang is £1.99 these days not £1.95]

A weekly mag that covered everything and took risks would be great.

There is an extreme metal section, they also tend to cover all bases of rock / metal - therefore there are going to be sections that don't interest everyone.

I would say Metal Hammer these days is a combo of Kerrang, Rock Sound and Terrorizer.

However like Kerrang - quality control suffers particularly in the front cover dept, how many times has Him been on the front cover.

I think poor quality control for front covers is the same for all those magazines at any time of their existence, and not just now.

Remember all those shitty hair metal bands with covers who sold shitloads of albums but never got in writers polls cos they didn't actually like them(sorry ILM hair metal fans)

It's no different now. How many of the bands who get regular front covers actually get in the writers polls?

And NME always get accused of putting stuff on the front cover thatthe writers don't like but the editorial team insists so the magazine will sell.

I'm sure putting cellophane on magazines must harm sales. Everyone I know likes to read it 1st.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), January 26th, 2006 7:23 AM. (GeirHong) (later) (link)

Confession: I only clicked on this thread because I thought I might get some classic Hongro action.

U NVR DISAPPOINT GEIRBOT.

You are insane. I mean, we all remember that time when Muse were on the cover of NME every week even before their debut album had surfaced - those were the days eh? (A better example might be Ash)

Mind you, I don't understand Kerrang's love for Muse bar their guitar tech-wankery articles.

Oh, that's Bod, isn't it?

Toyah did the voiceovers.

No place for "Urban Hymns" again like with Radiohead and Blur they seem to have swapped the opinion of which they prefer there. Not even attampted to include anything like Duran Duran (Which was in th last top 100 of all time they did.) No "Metal Box", no "Hats", no "Heaven or Las Vegas" and no "Club Classics Vol. One"

No, because then you miss the point about good music, which is that good music is completely timeless. Like the old classical music from the 18th and 19th century, for instance.

Is there any music which works across all cultural contexts? As 'old' classical music from the 18/19th century certainly doesn't.

-- DJ Mencap

True I'm not a fan of metal but with my comment I was actually just trying to be funny. If I offended instead, I'm sorry.

Remember they included Andrew WK in their best albums list a few years back and White Stripes - Elephant was in it and that wasn't even out yet.

In half a year, it sucks bigtime and Arctic Monkeys is some shite bollocks that only sad wankers and old people (20 year-olds, that is) listen to.

Whether or not Arctic Monkeys, Libertines, Futureheads, Kaiser Chiefs belong in a list like this will be more obvious in 5-10 years time. By now, sure, put them at the bottom of the list, put give them some time before you rank them among the ten best albums ever.