Oneida -- You'e having a laugh

*whispers* yay...

they are a (take your pick) safe/tame/mild version of the providence/brooklyn noise-rock axis. they take less chances = have more appeal (they play slower, embrace just a touch more melody)... give me parts and labor over oneida.

gygax!'s face has been printed on a bank note

To say nothing of the money we spent on geting "EOTO" just so. I guess cursory examination reveals nothing special but go deep with them. They're not the kind of band whose appeal is evident after one or two listens.

http://www.enemyhogs.com for the tour reports. they are good readin.

as for parts and labor -- they definitely have something going on, though going somewhere different than Oneida. parts and labor definitely have potential, though i dont think all their pieces are together yet. the primary difference is see between oneida and parts and labor, though, is the garage thing, the striata of mudhoney etc that free floats in what Oneida is doing.

I think some of their tunes sound not unlike spastik early Sebadoh (esp. some of Gaffneys strange tunes), with a better production. Mind you, I doubt this is a comparison that they would want to have levied upon them.

I'm heading to Bloomington on a CD binge/purge in a few days and probably will search out another Oneida album.

that guy complaining in the onion article is a total ILXOR. ha ha.

Newsonic is a pretty odd space. I think it's a Wesleyan thing. Don't know the people, but they used to have lots of art-music type events. But also heavy on the Shy Child/El Guapo axis. I remember low ceilings and carpeting and lots of Jews outside. Lots of Jews inside as well, but considerably less observant.

By the way, I could use both of those recipes.

I like the suitable derailment of this thread.

To bring it back around, Fat Bobby loves pie.

Really, though, it's too bad that the EP didn't get the Version City treatment, I obsess over the beauty of the Each One LP.

It's true, actually -- the record won't be released till the beginning of May, I think, but all the strings have been recorded. The record will be finished by the end of this weekend. I hope it works out, too. You guys are very nice.

I wish the EP was on vinyl, too -- but it was not in the plans for Ace Fu, the label that put it out. The Wedding will definitely be on (gatefold) vinyl.

COME BACK ONEIDA! PITTSBURGH NEEDS YOU!!
(and luvs ya!)

keep wearin that steeler gear, bobby! you may have turned the tide...

well, to me, maybe.
jane said they were sorta pissed about it, but the d00d who made said flick was really cool fella, so they just chalked it up to 'Oneida luck' and to the shelf to went. to await usage at some later date. i think on the site they make mention of using it for some zombie flick they may or may not do...
take it with a grain, i s'pose.

LIGHT! LIGHT! LIGHT! LIGHT! LIGHT!

I've never heard this. Sounds cool.

End of a half-decade: ILM kinda official Top 100 Albums & Tracks Poll - VOTING OVER (thank heavens) (2 matching messages)

omigod - i can let oneida's "sheets of easter" slide. no one was gonna vote for that for tracks, anyway. but if i change my votes to all-strokes, is someone gonna come along and rescue i get wet? otherwise, im gonna be paralyzed by indecision for the next 36 hours.
so, lemme make it official.
my nomination of "sheets of easter" is rescinded for the strokes' "last nite".

cmon, somebody - tell me youll pick up the WK slack, or nominate is this it or room on fire.

-- peter smith (reesewitherspoo...), July 29th, 2004.

90's-present Metal bands - Black Sabbath style (1 matching message)

ehhh - i mean. kyuss is good. IMO, master of reality is better than anything by any of those bands, except maybe "sheets of easter" and each one teach one by oneida.
-- peter smith (reesewitherspoo...), July 1st, 2004.

Songs that can't get loud enough (1 matching message)

OTM sheets of easter - i just wanna destroy my brain listening to that.
trex - metal guru
vu - sister ray
mission of burma - thats how i escaped my certain fate
wire - from the nursery
can - mother sky

-- peter smith (plsmit...), June 9th, 2004.

your 11 favourite songs of the moment, fuck. (1 matching message)

muhal richard abrams - one for the whistler
black dice - skeleton
rocket from the tombs - so cold
the fall - a new face in hell
wire - pink flag
oneida - sheets of easter
kanye west - all falls down
nirvana - drain you
brian eno - needles in the camel's eye
sonny sharrock - once upon a time
10 is good...

-- peter smith (plsmit...), June 15th, 2004.

Recent Things That You Have Played Really Really Loudly When You Were Really Really Drunk And It Was Really Really Late (1 matching message)

i had a few drunk nights this past spring where i blared scott 4 and collapsed in bed. those were the more poetic/low-level-depressed nights. andrew wk is a personal drunk favorite. also my perennial all-the-time favorite "sheets of easter" by oneida. sometimes when im drunk, i just want to play something that will tear my head apart. i guess raw power too.
-- peter smith (reesewitherspoo...), July 19th, 2004.

Favorite Long Songs ? (1 matching message)

is it possible for me to mention oneida's "sheets of easter" any more?
some of these are repeats, i know...

expressway to yr skull - sonic youth
sister ray - vu
mother sky - can
hallogallo - neu!
albatross - pil
matty groves - fairport convention
lady cab driver - prince
sad eyed lady of the lowlands - bob dylan
visions of johanna - bob dylan
desolation row - bob dylan
teenage riot - sonic youth

-- peter smith (reesewitherspoo...), July 1st, 2004.

What song(s) are you ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS in the mood to hear? (1 matching message)

unrest - so sick
amon duul - im garten sandosa
oneida - sheets of easter
oneida - jazz is the teacher...
scott walker - rhymes of goodbye
the fall - the classical
t. rex - metal guru
prince - sister
prince - u got the look
the velvet underground - sister ray
abba - super trouper
mclusky - without msg i am nothing
nirvana - drain you
the crystals - he's a rebel
the homosexuals - vociferous slam
sonic youth - teenage riot
pavement - elevate me later
real mccoy - another night
ace of base - the sign
-- peter smith (reesewitherspoo...), January 12th, 2005.

BEST Album Opening Tracks of all time (1 matching message)

agree with a salty salute and only shallow and needles in the camels eye from the other thread.
also, some of these others have been said, but whatever...

"sheets of easter" - each one teach one
"paperhouse" - tago mago
"lets go crazy" - purple rain
"metal guru" - the slider
"solo dancer" - black saint & the sinner lady
"come all ye" - fairport convention
"when i get to the border" - i want to see...
"streets of paradise" - pour down like silver
"everything in its right place" - kid a
"airbag" - ok computer
"i saw her standing there" - please please me
"sweet leaf" - master of reality
"hallogallo" - neu!
"the seventh seal" - scott 4
"dont stop til you get enough" - off the wall
"too high" - innervisions
"loves in need of love today" - songs in the key
"little fury things" - yr living all over me
"king of carrot flowers" - in the aeroplane over the sea
"out in the street" - my generation
"down on the street" - funhouse
"astronomy domine" - piper at the gates of dawn
"sunday morning" - vu & nico
"roadrunner" - modern lovers
"remake/remodel" - roxy music
"its time to party" - I GET WET
"practice makes perfect" - chairs missing
"schizophrenia" - sister
"teenage riot" - daydream nation
"is this it" - is this it

-- peter smith (reesewitherspoo...), July 19th, 2004.

CD80X2: a specialized introduction to rock (1 matching message)

so my friend peter (wow, same name, blah blah) works with me at a record store. he loves the velvet underground, crass, dub reggae, and 20th century composition. last week, after i offhandedly suggested an album (nico's the end) to him, he told me i needed to "school him in rock". so, considering his musical tastes, and my own favorites, i made him a 2-CD80 mix, with the first disc being shorter, poppier songs, and the second disc being longer, more experimental rock. how did i do?
CD-1
1. prince - let's go crazy
2. fleetwood mac - the ledge
3. the homosexuals - vociferous slam
4. the fall - how i wrote "elastic man"
5. sly & the family stone - family affair
6. pavement - elevate me later
7. the sonics - the witch
8. guided by voices - watch me jumpstart
9. neutral milk hotel - in the aeroplane over the sea
10. the raincoats - fairytale in the supermarket
11. the rolling stones - ventilator blues
12. blue cheer - summertime blues
13. os mutantes - ave lucifer
14. fairport convention - reynardine
15. bob dylan - as i went out one morning
16. the kinks - the village green preservation society
17. t. rex - metal guru
18. brian eno - needles in the camel's eye
19. unrest - make out club
20. the new pornographers - letter from an occupant
21. the strokes - you talk way too much
22. the stooges - down on the street
23. thin lizzy - the boys are back in town
24. the slits - shoplifting
25. wire - pink flag

CD-2
1. scott walker - farmer in the city
2. mars - helen for(d)sdale
3. can - oh yeah
4. boredoms - vision creation newsun track 1 (circle)
5. black dice - the dream is going down
6. oneida - sheets of easter
7. nico - it has not taken long
8. joni mitchell - the jungle line
9. captain beefheart - hot head
10. public image ltd. - theme
11. perrey/kingsley - the little man from mars

so, maybe im a little rockist...

-- peter smith (reesewitherspoo...), October 8th, 2004.

and come back to their 2nd home, Pittsburgh!!!
just cuz.

man, Wedding was one of the best things about last year!!!

!

I can send you a copy of the album, if you're interested. There are a couple still lying around my house.

i gotta say, the wedding never clicked with me. this is after EOTO and secret wars and all the surrounding EP's and splits and comp tracks were some of my favorite stuff of all time. its not that i think the wedding's direction isnt fruitful, but it feels tentative in places.

The Wedding wasn't my favorite either. I truly loved Secret Wars and still anticipate everything they do. Has anyone explored the Brah Records catalog?

Zu are really one of the best Italian bands ever. Great people too: check also their side project Ardecore (traditionals sung in Roman dialect, its a must!).

the secret show in london in 2003 that lauren mentions above was a careless talk night, and was amazing. 2 songs, 'sheets of easter' and a cover of husker du's 'new day rising', for about an hour. GOD HEAD.

Alright someone please clarify:

Does the vinyl version of Each One Teach One have a locked groove, or is my copy just fucked? I can't find any info online and it's bugging me.

hahahaha

are you sure that's not just how it's supposed to go?

I left it on for like 20 minutes and it was still playing

thats how its supposed to go!

Sheets of Easter goes on for 14 minutes...Antibiotics for 16 1/2. That, my good friend, is not fucked vinyl. It is Heaven.

Does the needle move? If yes, it's not a locked groove. I saw them play Sheets, right when it came out. I think they were in a "locked groove".

we put them on in london shortly after it came out on CD, and they played two (2) songs - Sheets of Easter, and then an epic 30 minute cover of 'new day rising'. it was GODLIKE.

did anyone see the "10th anniversary" show at PS1? I was bummed I had to work. I still haven't seen them live and I have like 6 of their records! but I was late to get on board with them, I got The Wedding when it came out and worked my way backward ....

every album I've heard by them is so different, and great in its own way. a couple months ago I was listening to TO SEED AND FLOWER off Anthem over and over. I really need Enamy Hogs ....

ENEMY Hogs

I was invited to DJ that PS1 and really would've loved to but had to go to a wedding. My first DJ experience in NY was actually a tiny house party for that same person who got married, but after that all my DJ gigs were at the loft on N. 3rd where Kayrock lived and had their silkscreening set-up. There were many a halloween or random party where Oneida would play and I DJ'd trying to get some kind of dance party started. A little later I got involved with Mighty Robot and the Twisted Ones and spent many nights DJing there, often shows involving Oneida and their pals. The Twisted Ones stopped when Fitz moved to Berlin and Mighty Robot closed down shortly after, so this 10th anniversary show at PS1 with Fitz visiting and DJing seemed like it'd be a really special event and it would've been cool to take part. Still, better yet I was DJing an old friend's wedding and couldn't have asked for a better time.

dmr, you need to hear their side of the "Live at the Clubhouse" split 12" with 25 Suaves, too. I'm glad that there is some record of their PCRZ line up. I miss that guy in Oneida sometimes, he was like the physical incarnation of their sound. I haven't seen them with Double Rainbow, yet.
I could make you a tape.

STOOGES!

PCRZ! they played the garage in london in 2000 (?) to about 14 people. it was good times. afterwards i got drunk with the band, in that drunken journo fanboy way. we were all hunkered around a tiny table, which i drunkenly managed to pull over myself, twice (2ce). i don't really drink anymore.

anyways, what i remember most of that evening was the heavy amount of classic rock playing on the minibar jukebox, and that with every searing solo that cranked out of the speakers, papa crazy would rise from the table (without knocking it over) and play vigorous and heartfelt air guitar, mane a-flowing. a dude.

http://enemyhogs.com/site/index.php?id=331

This Album Has Been "Rated O"

What can I tell you? Part Two of the Thank Your Parents trilogy is a triple album. I’ve found this information to be confusing to most people and I think the reason for this is a general fatigue for all things Oneida (coming out of my mouth). Now perhaps you’ll think I’m pushing the envelope by daring to suggest that I’m boring you – and I’ll be the first to agree. I’m cutting edge. I know that I’m putting you to sleep and yet I still prattle on about nothing at all!

It’s like the famous review of the Melvins that I’m making up right now, “It was like falling asleep on the barrel of an anti-aircraft gun.” I say this and YET I love the Melvins. Can you keep up?

First: Rated O is Oneida’s next album. It’s a triple album – 3 CDs or 3 LPs – your choice! It is coming out in July and we will be doing a few shows in the US and Europe to celebrate in July and August (of 2009).

Second: We’ve made some recordings of our two “Practice Space” Shows – they sounds sweet and we’re gonna do something with them so you can hear them. No idea when that will happen.

Third: There is an uptick of activity over at Brah Records so you oughta go check that out as well.

We have also just completed a remix of the Constantines’ song “Trans Canada” from their latest joint “Kensington Heights.” I’m not sure where that is and I’m not about to google map it.

I encourage you to contact us with any questions and concerns. . .

Your Brah – Kid Millions

so Rated O has leaked and is coming out in July.

I used to work with the wife of one of the guys from Oneida. They actually have a side band together: http://www.myspace.com/nurseandsoldier

love this band!

S'good this album, have all their others so i better start saving up to buy this new un

Rated O is fucking tremendous.

Second: We’ve made some recordings of our two “Practice Space” Shows – they sounds sweet and we’re gonna do something with them so you can hear them. No idea when that will happen.

fuckin awesome

haven't listened to the whole thing yet but the run from "the river" through "ghost in the room" is pretty fucking awesome. not surprised one bit since these guys put on one of the best shows i've ever seen at the last terrastock

Can't wait. Favorite band ever, I've seen them ten times.

Really looking forward to this. The bits I've heard sound potentially album-of-the-year great.

Stooges!

don't even know where to start with Rated O, in a good way. i've listened maybe 5-7 times and can't find anything that isn't mind blowing about it

I saw them live last saturday, playing a lot of Rated O stuff.

The keyboard player was a bit, er, confused.

But in a good way.

Rated O is well up there in my top ten of the year

omg

what!

am listening to 'rated o'

it is quite something

I suck for not buying this yet.

It is feckin' brilliant.

yeah, keep meaning to, keep putting it off. shame on me...

i listened to the excellent first 5 songs...will get round to the others soon, but so far so good. droney krauty loopy goodness.

is this your first step into oneida's world, louis? if so, how many TRAETS await you...

I'm currently listening to 'Up With People' from Happy New Year. In fact I played it down the pub on Saturday when Louis was there. (If it's the same Louis, and not Louis Walsh or Louis XVIII of France or Blue Lou Boyle from True Romance.)

i played 'up with people' on 6music once, at 830 on a monday morning. the fill-in DJ who hosted the show in Jupitus's absence was visibly displeased by the song.

The only pub I was in on Saturday was one in which I watched Villa-Spurs :-/

Anyway, this IS my first trip into the Oneidic sphere. They seem promising.

What the fuck is wrong with these people? It's fucking disco . . . Admittedly pretty fast, fuzzy disco but disco nonetheless . . .

XP: Sorry, another Louis from this board it was then.

said stand-in DJ was very much of the Ocean Colour Scene school of musical diversity

There's another? I must hunt him down and we must fight. That school of musical diversity persists? Mother of god.

Pubmeet fake Louis, oh no!

My Oneida album pick is "The Wedding" w. much love to "Each One Teach One" too, but I have not given "Rated O" the time I know it deserves

okay, so i picked up Rated O the other day. holy shit this is great! by far by far BY FAR the best thing i've ever heard oneida do, like Each One Teach One made more and better longer louder crazier crazier world without end. on that note kinda funny how the MC who does vocals on the opening epic dub track even namechecks EOTO (each one a teacha waaaan).

surprised by the mixed reviews. i mean, if yr averse to epic length hammering on a single change (or chord!) this obviously isn't the band for you, but if yr at all interested in the space btwn heavy garage rock, noise & space/kraut hypnosis, this is the fucking GODHEAD. space ritual shit right here. three lps, each aesthetically/conceptually distinct, and all fucking fantastic. i even like "the human factor", which seems to be the sticking point/bellwether for folks who don't quite "get it". yeah, he's shrieking hoarsely for like five minutes, but it's kinda funny and the drumming is awesome.

SO glad i made time for this. instant top-of-the-heap album of the year contender, displacing a lot of potential favorites.

one use of "epic" would probably have sufficed

Welcome to the club. This has been a lock for my top ten since I first heard it.

re: Human Factor: That is definitely the track that separates casual fans from the dedicated for life.
I love that track! celebration station step into the O

yeah, glad to be here, "the river" is such a fucking jam, just unreal

i don't know when i last had so much fun getting to know an album. listened twice yesterday, and am on my second round for this morning. i don't think there's a bad track on here. been a good year for crater head psyche shit (this, blues control, shit & shine, fuck buttons, lips).

Kid just emailed me the other day. He's sending me the triple vinyl. Stoked!

anybody heard kid millions' man forever lp? basically a drum solo record, with tons of tracks layered together until it turns into a big, blurry, throbbing mess. some very alien-sounding bass guitar from one of the sightings dudes, but otherwise just kits, kits and more kits, all pummeled within an inch of their lives. pretty unique and cool - reminds me of lightning bolt more than anything else, in the way these mushroom patterns emerge and disappear into a seething morass of noise. i can't image that 40 minutes of droney percussion fog is gonna do it for everybody, but it's working for me.

Doubt it'll do it for me, tbh, but here's a NY Times story about it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/arts/music/23drummer.html

hey, they're on tour

So, I've heard almost all of their albums, but I still don't understand the title of this thread.

Forget what I said 7 years ago. Saw them Thursday w/ Kinski and The Lights opening. Oneida were a 5-piece, with another keyboard player, and Shaheen (ex ex-models, seconds) on 2nd guitar and vocals.

Oneida killed it, and Kid is the main reason, as stated several times above. Overheard at show: "dude is like Jaki from Can but on CRACK!"

"So, I've heard almost all of their albums, but I still don't understand the title of this thread.

― xhuxk, Saturday, August 21, 2010 8:27 PM (Yesterday)"

Ditto. Been wondering.

suspect thread title concerns the caesar's column 12", contents and packaging, released 7 years ago in ye olde UK:

http://www.avatune.com/pics/18020764.jpg

show at the sunset (ballard) on thursday night was amazing by the way. missed the openers, but no loss. oneida were more than enough on their own. and yeah, kid, but the whole damn band, really. best live performance i've seen in quite some time.

Saw them Thursday w/ Kinski and The Lights opening. Oneida were a 5-piece, with another keyboard player, and Shaheen (ex ex-models, seconds) on 2nd guitar and vocals.

― Sock Puppet Pizza Delivers To The Forest (Sock Puppet Queso Con Concentrate)

oh hai, you was at the sunset, too. cheers! twin guitars and keys were fiendish yeah.

Both openers were at their best too. Kinski's Chris Martin is becoming better and more confident as a singing frontman. Also new songs are Alpine-Static good.

But anyway, Oneida U HAZ LAAFS

Oh, man. Rated O would be my #1 album of the year this year, except it's last year's album. Aw, fuck it, it's still my album of the year.

I want more stuff like it. Lots more. It fills the need I've had for some years for a new NEU! album - that relentless propusliveness, mostly instrumental, "out there" but never spaced-out. It's hitting all the right neurons.

I've got NEU!, Can, Fela, and now this; what else fits the bill? Suggestions, anyone?

Hmmm, maybe some Plastic Crimewave Sound? Amon Duul II?

cave
some boredoms (vision creation newsun)
i'm assuming you know cluster, harmonia, etc. since you mentioned neu

Good call with Cave, definitely.

Some album recs:

Amon Duul II - Yeti
Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
Plastic Crimewave Sound - No Wonderland

Oh man...there are a plethora of threads on here re:krautrock that will keep you busy (and happy) for a while ;)

Cave recommendation thirded

the Plastic Crimewave stuff I have is more goth-y than krautrock-y imhp

imho

maybe check out the plastic crimewave split w oneida? then if you like the PCS side, get some of their stuff!

lot of recommendations for cave. not saying no, but if you're interested, aim for the hunt like devil/JAMZ album (dbl EP combo, whatever). best thing they've done so far, imo.

recent mother of fire EP has an oneida-ish quality here and there, but gothier, and not quite so rhythmically intense.

Hawkwind - Space Ritual

xp - did not know cave had a newer release than pure moods. must check that out ASAP

No, that's the first Cave release. They don't have anything new right now.
There may be some copies of a split cassette with Skarekrau Radio with a live set recorded by Grady Runyan at his record store in Sacramento in 2009.

ok, mother of fire is not the title of an ep by the band cave, but rather a whole other band...?

correct. Mother of Fire record on De Stijl, I think.
the first Cave release is Hunt Like Devil/Jamz.

oh yeah, duh, should have been clearer. mother of fire is a minneapolis band that has a vague oneida-like quality buried somewhere in their sound. connection is tangential at best, and i'm probably the only one who'd make it. offered in response to staggerlee's request.

love this locked groove stuff as well and definitely check out circle! prospekt, sunrise, and tower are my faves. but don't start with tower - it's more on a terry riley tip.

anyway, there's tons of circle material out there and most of it is worthwhile.

best experienced live, tho.

loop might do the trick too. a gilded eternity is killer.

Kicking myself so hard for not mentioning Circle!!!!

xpost

^ knows what's up. circle and loop otm. plus yeah, prospekt & sunrise are my favorite circle albums, and AGE my favorite loop. spot on.

hah, thanx!

also: rhys chatham - die donnergötter

the recent no balls s/t lp (from 2009, I think?) hit a lot of these same buttons for me. but with more scuzz.

oh wait, just threw it on. it ain't self-titled. come clean is the album.

f/I's Space Mantra should dop the trick. Also check out the Parson Sound album.

really really re: no balls? i assumed it would be brainbombs-style gurk rock.

2nd space mantra

No, that's the first Cave release. They don't have anything new right now.
There may be some copies of a split cassette with Skarekrau Radio with a live set recorded by Grady Runyan at his record store in Sacramento in 2009.

― Trip Maker, Thursday, November 4, 2010 6:47 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark

grady's store is in ventura!

Shoot, okay, you got me. Never been to northern Cali.

neither has grady's record store!

Geographically challenged over hera.

hungover, too

nothin but love

really really re: no balls? i assumed it would be brainbombs-style gurk rock.

I mean, it is, sure. but when I listen, "don't stop playing this riff, I love this riff" often pops into my head. and of course, they never do. not until the song has totally decayed.

really hits that loop sweet spot for me but coming from a way more primitive angle.

ymmv, of course.

really, stopping a killer riff prematurely is unforgivable.

I mean, how much better would this song be if the amon duul 2 boys really took their time with the riff that appears 1:13 into this track?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSAk1O0B6sg

not to derail the thread, but anyone have any idea where to buy that Cave/Skarekrau Radio tape? Google's coming up with nada.

many xposts

will check that mother of fire and hunt like devil/jamz is really good for sure
also circle is a great rec

the new hallogallo 2010 7" (blinkgurtel/drone schlager..lolz) is real nice too!

guess I have to check out cave, huh? reflexively wrote them off as 3rd tier stuff for reasons I can't remember. (possibly because they have an album named "jamz")

parson sound seconded in a big way.

Tyler, I will look around for a tape for you.
I will dub one for you for nothing.

aw thx!
alan, some excellent cave stuff to try out over here: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/CAVE/
they're still far and away the best live band i've seen in 2010. probably in 2009, 2008, 2007, too.

nice! I'll definitely give a listen. thanks.

Sorry for derailing your thread, Oneida! Thanks for the recos, everyone. Listening to Harmonia as I type; had forgotten they existed. Really good but a little mellow for my mood right now.

I take it Cave are a different band than these guys? :) Got Hunt Like Devil waiting for me; also, Space Mantra and Circle's Sunrise.

Stopped following the Krautrock listening club after the 1-2 punch of Amon Duul II and Walter Wegmuller, neither of which I could stand in the slightest. (did like La Dusseldorf alright, tho.) Maybe I should get back on the bandwagon.

Anyone listening to any Sun Araw? Seems like if you like Amon Duul II's noodliness and a bit of space-rock you'll dig it. It's mostly soloing over slow deep beats and a chaotic backdrop of echoey distorted guitars & keys. Very trancey & psychedelic. The one I listen to most is Heavy Deeds.

Since I instantly and completely derailed this thread from Oneida to all this other stuff, is it possible for a mod to snip the whole conversation into a new thread from that point? Up to now this is the best all-arounder thread for Oneida & I don't want to have fucked it over. Also, anyone looking for a convo around repetitive guitar-rock bands is more than likely to miss it here.

LADDIO BOLLOCKO

^yesssss.

first album is a stunner.

^ in my post above, every time I mention Amon Duul II, substitute Ash Ra Tempel, since apparently that's what I was referring to. I guess now I haven't heard AD (I or II). Would i like them? Are they riffy?

they are riffy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-MC5EyFk0&feature=related

but not always that riffy

Anyone listening to any Sun Araw? Seems like if you like Amon Duul II's noodliness and a bit of space-rock you'll dig it. It's mostly soloing over slow deep beats and a chaotic backdrop of echoey distorted guitars & keys. Very trancey & psychedelic. The one I listen to most is Heavy Deeds.

oh hell yes. have mentioned them in a number of threads recently (insisting, for example, that they are "chillwave" just so i can foist them there). heavy deeds is epic, but i think on patrol is my favorite. the longer songs and open spaces make it so easy to get lost in. plus nice beats.

Since I instantly and completely derailed this thread from Oneida to all this other stuff, is it possible for a mod to snip the whole conversation into a new thread from that point? Up to now this is the best all-arounder thread for Oneida & I don't want to have fucked it over. Also, anyone looking for a convo around repetitive guitar-rock bands is more than likely to miss it here.

wouldn't worry about it. in the long run, this'll just be a minor detour, and probably a useful one to fans.

More noise/Kraut jamz here: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=133621169&m=133620972
The Psychic Paramount. Anyone heard their earlier albums?

Being discussed here Rolling Psych/Drone/Freak Thread 2011
All their stuff is worthy of investigation.

And I mean purchase.

Apparently I temporarily liked one of their albums six years ago:

http://www.killerskiss.com/press/EddytorsDozen.htm

On the subject of Oneida. The inattention paid to this band is indicative of the degradation of rock music as being a force of larger cultural power/acknowledgment. Like twenty years ago, Rated O would've been an "event record" in my mind.

^

^^^

(Rated O was an event record. In my mind, anyway.)

Shoulda been as big as GAPDY

the fuck is gapdy

i never thought about rated o that way, though now that you people mention it, it was an amazing record that was criminally overlooked.

preteen weaponry was great too! part 1 of the "trilogy" that rated o is a part of as well.

Any rumours of a release date for "Absolute II? (part 3 of the trilogy; it's been in the can since at least last summer)

To answer the previous question -- out in a couple of months and I'm giving it an ear now. REALLY like the first track, it's them on the proto-ambient Kraut/space zoneout tip and it actually feels like an extension of ideas instead of a tribute to them. Which I knew they had in them, it's just great to hear it.

Some discussion on this thread, too
10 Intelligent questions for Oneida

Ah cool, missed that one.

Guess this thread will be the default Oneida thread for now. Kid just posted a link to the new album streaming at East Village Radio. As Ned said, sounding really out in Krauty/improv/space territory. Sounding really nice so far.

Very restrained, and very little noticeable guitar in the first two songs.

Hey, anyone know if a recording of the set where Oneida covers "New Day Rising" for 45 minutes (or something like that) exists? Just remembered that it happened while looking at the Husker Du poll results, and this seems like a great way to approach the weekend, if a recording of it exists.

http://www.secretprojectrobot.org/secretprojectorobot/Schedule_files/photo.jpg

omg 45min NDR cover wowowow

I never heard about that! I do remember Kid saying somewhere that they played it as an encore and then the original came on the PA after their set.
Oneida played it faster.

Huh, had always heard that this really happened (i.e., they played it as a whole set, not encore), and in Europe, gonna go explore some more.

They once joked with me that hecklers in the American South who didn't appreciate "sheets of easter" would be met with a fifteen minute cover of the Incredible String Band's "You Get Brighter" if they didn't shut up.

They are funny dudes. I deeply cherish my memories of seeing "Sheets of Easter" for the first time. They are a little fuzzy, but Oneida will always be one of my favorite live bands based on those memories alone.

thinking about it some more, they really do some of the best covers. I've seen them do "Levitation" and "Slip inside this House' by the Elevators and absolutely rip them up (in a good way, of course). Saw them do Dream Syndicate's "Halloween" (Bobby played guitar!) and totally rule it. All time favorite cover I've seen them do has to be "Radar Eyes" by the Godz, though. That fucked me up.

Whelp, here is the mention, and from this very thread to boot:

that was 'sheets of easter' off the each one teach one album, discussed above - go find it!
the secret show in london in 2003 that lauren mentions above was a careless talk night, and was amazing. 2 songs, 'sheets of easter' and a cover of husker du's 'new day rising', for about an hour. GOD HEAD.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, June 1, 2006 12:03 PM (6 years ago)

Ha! awesome.

Have seen "Levitation" and "Slip Inside This House", not sure I have seen them do any other covers, unless they slipped them in and I didn't recognize them. They essentially rip everything up, great musicians all around. I loved the brief period (circa "C'mon Everybody Let's Rock") when Bobby doubled on guitar with Papa on multiple songs. I mean, the keyboards are/were a huge part of their sound, but the early feral garage/psych side of theirs was a lot of fun.

I think you made a similar comment right after that quote six years ago!

that was me who mention the NDR cover above. we put on the show in 2003, a secret show at the buffalo bar (they played the camden underworld the following night), and they played sheets and then NDR. i remember there being NOT MANY PEOPLE there, and i didn't tape it, so i reckon the night is lost to history. but ah what memories.

You lucky duck! Though I saw many many Oneida shows between 2000 and 2003 (often with not many people there), so I got to see a lot of great stuff. Would love to have been there for that though. Thanks for shedding some "light" on my memories though.

No real discussion on Absolute II or List of the Burning Mountains or the new People of the North record... any thoughts?

I have to admit, I'm a real fan of both the meth-kraut Oneida ("$50 Tea", "Double Lock Your Mind" and "Sheets of Easter\Antibiotics") and the offkilter stuff like "Rugaru" and "Run Through My Hair", but everything since the mind-bomb of Rated O has left me a bit cold. I like the 2 Oneida records alright (not so much the People of the North one) but find myself more thinking "I like that they're doing this" rather than "I like this", if that makes any sense.

That makes perfect sense to me, to be honest. I respect the hell out of Oneida, and am happy for them to do whatever makes sense to them right now (as they have covered a lot of ground already), but in some respects I think they are playing stuff now that doesn't flex many of their muscles, or play to past strengths, which certainly may show some cool results down the line but right now comes across as a little dry and airless (or cold as you state), and this is not what Oneida has historically been for me. Really dug the Man Forever thing when I saw it live though, so I imagine that some of this stuff translates better in a room than on record. I haven't seen Oneida live in 7 years or so though, so I am not sure what I would make of their current live sets.

Saw them live once about 4-5 years ago at the old Knitting Factory and remember liking it fine but wishing it were heavier or something. Ran into former ilxor hstencil there but I didn't talk to him after the show so don't know what he thought.

Must gave gone to the wrong show because I would have loved this

Setlist:
[Total Time 1:07:29]
01 Discipline (Throbbing Gristle)
02 The River
03 Hit It and Quit It (Funkadelic)
04 Ghost In The Room
05 She Cracked (Modern Lovers) / I Will Haunt You
06 Ballad of Vaurice

everything since the mind-bomb of Rated O has left me a bit cold

yeah pretty much. List of the Burning Mountains grabbed me more than Absolutes II but there are about 10 Oneida records I'd pull out to listen to before I revisited those.

Absolutes II just seemed kinda pointlessly wanky whereas any of their long form exploratory stuff before was AWESOMELY wanky

I think their recent records are not reflecting how insane the band is as a live unit currently. I've had the please of seeing two of their Ocropolis performances - all-day continuous jams with various musicians sitting in and they are absolutely amazing for the most part. They have apparently recorded all this stuff but haven't figured out how to release it yet. Hopefully it will emerge eventually. The last time I saw them at Asbury Park ATP James McNew from Yo La Tengo sat in on bass the entire time. Before Secret Project Robot re-located they did a weekend of performances which included Rated O in its entirety with guest musicians and a performance of Absolute II at 5 AM just when the sun was coming up - it certainly worked in that context, on record not so much. I think Rated O will remain their magnum opus/statement of purpose and I'm glad its out there but they seem to be mainly a live band currently.

p much same here, except that I hadnt heard about the People of the North album, for some reason I am kind of itching to hear it now

The first People of the North album I think I liked (must revisit), haven't made it more than 3/4 way through the new one tho.

I'd still kill for a chance to see them live. Sometimes I curse my distance from metropolis. But only for that reason.

oh hey, Fat Bobby from Oneida wrote about an old Atari game for Paste today.

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2013/10/oneidas-bobby-matador-on-kaboom-virtuosity-and-rep.html

Oneida w/ James McNew streaming here:

http://www.nyctaper.com/2013/10/oneida-october-4-2013-glasslands-flacmp3streaming-full-set/

Very cool so far. Apparently ends with "Sheets of Easter" too, but yeah gotta listen to the whole thing still. Saw Dump last year or so and James ripped it up on guitar, so this could be really cool.

sweet, this is sounding pretty radical so far.

Yeah, it was good. Gotta listen again when I can focus on it a little more, but the first track was especially cool. "Sheets of Easter" is maybe more powerful if you are there in the room with it (as I am sure the first song was as well), but still cool to hear it live again after all of these years. Blew my head right off the first time I saw it.

did anyone else listen to this? http://worstgigeverpodcast.tumblr.com/post/68782310428/episode-77-kid-millions-sweetheart-of-the

the story was top notch fiasco comedy and he was an amusing storyteller
my most lol part was the duration of their performance

Given the circumstances, I bet they weren't even a great 6 minutes. Thanks for that link! It was great.

The part that blew my mind, after all that build-up, was to learn that that show happened in 2010 (if I remember correctly). Funny, but man they deserve better than that.

that should have a spoiler alert! but yeah, that was the gut-sinking part.

6 minutes!

Sorry, didn't think about the spoiler aspect. It does not make it less funny, just really bizarre, but I won't expand here in case others want to check this out before hearing more of my thoughts.

My worst gig ever had a similar story-arc, but we got 15 minutes (maybe even 20) at least. You can get something out in 15 minutes, but absolutely zero in 6.

i know! that's why it's so funny. 6 minutes!

He has an essay in a recent N+1 that recounts this gig and a lot of other autobiographical details (relationship to drumming, Oneida's early days) that is worth a read.

I used to love his tour diaries, both funny and sad and very relatable. Interesting guy for sure.

hahaha this is someone from trans am talking about playing with oneida
http://thequietus.com/articles/09708-trans-am-2

Oneida: Oneida played before us one night and they wouldn't fucking shut up. They started doing the same repetitive chords and monotonic, single-syllable chant for maybe 5-10 minutes. Sort of like "Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die! Die!" Although it could have been some other word. Paralyzing.

Doubly so as one of them (Phil Manley I think) joined Oneida as "Double Rainbow" or something for a while. Probably played "Sheets of Easter" at some point and learned to love the chord.

I've probably mentioned this above somewhere, but we put on an Oneida show about ten years ago in London where they played an hour long set of just two numbers, Sheets Of Easter and Husker Du's New Day Rising.

Yep, and eternally I am unhappy that I cannot hear that! (or see it no less, but would settle for a good audio recording of it)

Me too. New Day Rising is one of my favorite songs ever.

third

Damnit, SOMEBODY must have a recording of that show. I have asked a bunch of different people though. I wish Oneida had tapers circa 2001-2006 (well, most eras of the band really).

Well, this semms to be the Oneida thread to post stuff in at this point (and yeah, they are having a laugh often enough so ....) Most recent set from Glasslands up for streaming via NYCTaper. James McNew sits in for the whole set too:

http://www.nyctaper.com/2014/07/oneida-july-17-2014-glasslands-flacmp3full-set-streaming/

i saw man forever + so percussion earlier this month and it was very enjoyable. it was super cool to see a performance that was just drummin' + voices.

Missed that tour, unfortunately. I saw them in Charlottesville with bass/guitar/keyboard drones, and it was great. Nathan Bowles was the drum partner (on this tour both drummes, i.e. Kid and Nathan, played single-stroke rolls the ENTIRE set, about 40 minutes straight without pausing). Mike Gangloff (Nathan and Mike both play in Pelt amongst many other great bands/solo incarnations) played keyboards. It was heavy as hell in a beautiful monolithic repetitive way.

I am hoping to make it to Chicago for CAVE+ONEIDA on July 30th.

!! i will be there and so will crut!!
yaaay

Ugh why is everything in Chicago happening on July 30-31 when I'm moving this month?

feel like they should just stop having shows in chicago after the CAVE+ONEIDA bill. holy smokes.
recording from last week smokes.

On the other hand I do have the 31st off to deal with movers so I'm sure it's a great idea to stay up really late the night before.

Missed that tour, unfortunately. I saw them in Charlottesville with bass/guitar/keyboard drones, and it was great. Nathan Bowles was the drum partner (on this tour both drummes, i.e. Kid and Nathan, played single-stroke rolls the ENTIRE set, about 40 minutes straight without pausing). Mike Gangloff (Nathan and Mike both play in Pelt amongst many other great bands/solo incarnations) played keyboards. It was heavy as hell in a beautiful monolithic repetitive way.
― grandavis, Monday, July 21, 2014 9:58 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this sounds so rad

movers: "where should we put this desk?"
NA: "You've got to look into the LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT"

Hah hah hah! A+ Tyler.

Global, that show was truly great, and the faces Nathan was making by minute 30 or so of playing single-stroke rolls were amazing. I cannot imagine what that would be like.

Alternate version:

movers: "where should we put this desk?"
NA: "Just put it over there to the RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT"

lol

movers: "where should we put this desk?"
NA: (25-minute keyboard drone punctuated with wordless chanting and tom-tom thumps)

haaaaahaha
cannot even remotely imagine minute 10 of single stroke roll much less 30 or 40
wtf

so stoked

if you're in PA (or anywhere near PA) the philly show with chris forsyth would be amazing too.

Yeah man that is just a killer bill. Wish I lived a little closer to Philly.

the man forever/so percussion show here was amazing

I had told myself that the all-percussion version of Man Forever would not be as interesting, but really I am sure it was. Sorry I missed it but just couldn't make it when they swung through. Glad this project keeps morphing and moving forward, Kid is a good guy.

movers: "where should we put this desk?"
NA: "You've got to look into the LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT"

― tylerw, Monday, July 21, 2014 10:23 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really feeling that "Cedars" song so much from the live set. Found the vocals distracting and not interesting enough to warrant the repetition. Some of the music was all right, but have enjoyed the rest of the set a lot more so far.

One of my favourite Oneida anecdotes: " I feel like we played somewhere like Chattanooga, where there was almost no one at the bar, and there was a carnival in town. So at the bar were these scrappy old carnies, like scary dudes with one tooth and a wild look in their eyes. Not a ton of people, I’m talking 15 dudes from a carnival (laughs). And maybe two other people, a bartender, three fans, and the band we were touring with. So we went up there and played this song for 15 minutes, and I think it pissed them off but also made them happy. I remember them stomping around the room thinking we were saying “die, die, die,” these crazy old hillbilly carny men going “die, die, die,” doing Monty Python style goose-stepping walks around the room.

That is a good anecdote! Can picture the scene very clearly.

Last song in that set, "You Get Brighter", definitely the highlight for me.

woah, they finally pulled off that ISB cover?! Crazy, I have to listen to that.
They talked about covering that song like 15 years ago.

Bobby really wanted a harpsichord iirc.
lol this doesn't sound anything like the incredible string band song.

a cover in the loosest possible definition of the term.

Bummed that I don't get to see them w/ CAVE, but super psyched to see them a few minutes from where I reside in Indianapolis. Haven't seen them live since...Terrastock 2008?

haha I rolled in to that just after they finished and Ned, Elvis and others were staggering out of the inside room blabbering in disblief

so bummed I missed them, in retrospect, but I couldn't have gotten up any earlier

Man I have never made it to a Terrastock, which is dumb.

I was listening to the first disc of Rated O this morning and during "10:30 at the Oasis" the thought occurred they should do a collaboration with Oneohtrix Point Never.

love the man forever/so percussion record

yes it's so great

oneida are playing here on saturday and i'm p stoked

did anyone else score the Brah tapes? i snagged all 4 at the (mindblowing) show in Indy. they are all quite good...hard to believe it is cutting-room floor stuff.

wish i could've seen that guggenheim show...rats!

Continued from the Disappears thread: I haven't heard the Brah tapes - got 'em on a bunch of wishlists but they're hensteethy. The O have refused to play anywhere within 1000 miles of me (granted, I'm kind of in the sticks) so I haven't had the chance to see them. I see they're finishing a new record, and another one with Rhys Chatham, both of which are promising developments.

If anyone is in a sharing mood, I'd really dig a chance to hear those tapes. I promise not to take any food out of the band's mouths.

Likewise, would love to hear those tapes (or purchase them, if that's possible).

Ditto on the Brah tapes

Sorry for derailing :) I like this new track quite a bit...probably more than anything else I've heard on record by them. Will definitely peep the full-length when it comes out.

Rats. Wrong thread. I'm currently without a tape deck, but I'll see what I can do...

<3 kid millions
haven't seen this movie but i know he is otm about it
http://thetalkhouse.com/music/talks/kid-millions-talks-whiplash-and/

<3 kid millions
but he is not otm

"Whiplash" is good imo

I haven't seen it, I should refrain from opining.

oneida-headz - is there any way to get the recent brah tapes other than on cassette?

I haven't seen it either, but the impression I got from the trailer is that it's not really about music as music, or rather that music could be substituted with any competitive young person activity in which there's a teacher-student or coach-student relationship. Like it might just as well be drumline drumming, or some kind of competitive dance team thing. But it also didn't seem totally far-fetched to me that there are musicians out there who might treat jazz big band that way. Although that doesn't square AT ALL with my high school and college big band playing experience -- we did go to competitions, but even when we were competing the director was much more interested in making sure we captured the nuances and feeling of the music than in some kind of tempo contest. I don't see any of that as necessarily meaning it isn't a good movie though.

saw oneida on saturday with james mcnew playing bass? is that a thing? great show but they got kicked off stage after like half an hour for some macbook dj.

Yikes, that sounds criminal. Half an hour is not enough time. McNew has played with them before though.

it seems like a movie about abusive teachers who "force greatness" out of their carefully chosen students and that's not my thing at all, movie about drumming and teachers aside. i dunno. maybe it's like the Nadia of drumming movies.

seems like mcnew is pretty much in oneida now? at least he's been playing live w/ em for at least the past year or so. don't know if he contributes on record though.

the truncated show was a drag but they sounded awesome. two extended kraut jams and a rock and roll song. i spent all my merch table cash on beer, is the brah tapes stuff mailorderable? they def sold me on what they are doing these days.

oh man, that saturday bill had chris forsyth on it too...right? and yes - 30 minutes is way too short.

finally got a tape deck -- had a listening session where we went through all 4 brah tapes consecutively. together, it's a pretty massive double album worth of really good material, spanning everything from shorter burners in the vein of preteen weaponry to amorphous imposing improv with the flavor of "a list of the burning mountains", to oscillating, almost-mellow dronescapes. i've yet to digitize anything, but will get around to it if for no other reason than to listen to at work.

lots of stuff to look forward to in 2015, per their site:
+Recording the THIRTEENTH Oneida album (This is Thirteen II—still gotta run that one by the guys).
+Blowin’ the Rhys Chatham/Oneida album for Northern Spy
+Layin’ the fourth People of the North album out on the stoop

till then, here's jam i (roughly) captured from july. pretty sure this is...new?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4zCl5uSXRg

nice jam. they didn't play that one on saturday.

chris forsyth w/ band was excellent too, they are playing bk again next month to which i will definitely go.

it seems like a movie about abusive teachers who "force greatness" out of their carefully chosen students and that's not my thing at all, movie about drumming and teachers aside. i dunno. maybe it's like the Nadia of drumming movies.

― vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 18:48 (1 hour ago) Permalink

Since that kind of "greatness" is so anathema to what I consider great in drumming, I just feel like I'm going to have to go in not thinking of it as a music film. Then again music films generally tend to be even more fraught with cliches, impossibilities and fanciful myths than biopics in general.

Although it's not totally without precedent in the real world (pretty sure Buddy Rich did see music as that kind of competition, for example).

"Whiplash" is good imo

i hope it's good, but have a reaaally hard time imagining that it feels real to anyone with similar experiences. honestly i'm mostly hoping for hilarious camp.

yeah, i definitely saw all the stuff kid millions criticizes about the film as intentional, that ultimately the whole thing is about the sort of folly some people engage in, people who think you can turn somebody into charlie parker by throwing a cymbal at their head, and how some people have an exceptional kind of magnetism to where they can actually get folks to believe something that self-evidently stupid. that's not really a "jazz" thing per se.

russian olympic jazz

which reminds me I really wanna see that soviet hockey team doc. which takes me even further afield from this thread.

that's why i compared it to Nadia -- the camp and the cartoonishly mean coach

clearly there is not much intersection between fans of the tv movie Nadia and Oneida
lol

ah didn't catch the ref

lol xp

You couldn't hang with Oneida and their crowd unless you knew Nadia backwards and forwards

oneida-headz - is there any way to get the recent brah tapes other than on cassette?

Couple of Brah Tapes tracks here:

http://jagjaguwar.com/blog/2015/01/european-tour-announce-oneida-to-perform-eleven-shows-in-europe-tour-starts-319/

http://www.thrilljockey.com/thrill/People-of-the-North/Era-of-Manifestations

Never sure which Oneida thread is "the" Oneida thread, but full recent set put up by NYCTaper:

http://www.nyctaper.com/2015/03/oneida-february-27-2015-the-bowery-ballroom-flacmp3streaming/

Like this minus the first song "Cedars", which just doesn't work for me for some reason. They cover This Heat, which is probably not a good idea for most bands but their take on "S.P.Q.R." is pretty sweet.

ooh thanks for this. I'm still looking for a way into this band. I have The Wedding, Secret Wars, Anthem Of The Moon, and the Nice EP. What am I obviously missing?

honestly i feel like these live recordings are their best work!

Rated O and Each One Teach One are my favorites.

Each One Teach One is great, but I like Anthem of the Moon and Secret Wars a lot too (and Rated O). They really are best as a live experience though.

Yeah Each One and Rated O pretty much spell it out.

^ agree w this. honestly think the wedding and secret wars see them trying to be something other than what they naturally are (traditional rock band, rather than a god-level psychedelic groove machine), to generally disappointing effect. they have moments, those more song-driven albums, but nothing to stand with their best work. agree that the live show is the only way to truly know the O.

*makes mental note to attend next London Oneida show*

oh snap http://www.songkick.com/artists/261418-oneida

I missed the boat on them for a long time too, and found a way in through first the song "Run Through My Hair", then that 10th-anniversary comp they gave away. After that I was hooked.

new EP out on Rocket Recordings

http://rocketrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/positions

Want. But $20 shipping...

So want. The $45 all-in price tag to Canada is effin rough, tho.

Bingo. Would gladly buy @ a merch table, though. Crosses fingers.

Accidentally ordered a couple copies anyhow. I guess at this point if kid millions was selling his owl figurines at sotheby's I'd be like "what the fuck anyhow, who needs to eat, I'll just put Antibiotics on loop and stare at these hypnotic owls til I starve to death."

NEW FULL-LENGTH:
https://www.joyfulnoiserecordings.com/products/romance

and track:
https://youtu.be/yUwywyqvNkA

DAMN.

To our friends and fans:
Oneida drummer Kid Millions is in the hospital in Los Angeles following a serious car crash. He is expected to make a full recovery but will be unable to play for some time. (1/3)

— Oneida (@oneida_official) March 2, 2018

yikes, glad that it's not much worse ... one of the very best drummers out there ... there's a tune on the new one that features some unbelievable playing.

in better news, just got wind of this:

CHARNEL GROUND is a meeting of Chris Brokaw (Come/Codeine/The New Year etc). on electric guitar, James McNew (Yo La Tengo, Dump) on bass, and Kid Millions (Oneida/Man Forever/etc) on drums, dedicated to exploring the outer and inner regions of instrumental rock music. 'Charnel Ground' was recorded in Brooklyn NY in 2016, and informed and dedicated to pivotal transitions.

https://soundcloud.com/gerardcosloy/charnel-ground-the-high-price

yeesh

the one time i saw oneida live, kid millions was sick, and they had two replacement drummers, because they said that's how many drummers they needed to replace him

Damn, hope he has a speedy recovery. :(

Had dinner with him once when a friend was involved in an early Man Forever piece (the one with the 1/2 hour long single-stroke roll, which was great), just a super nice and genuine dude.

last year's man forever record has some great stuff on it — the Laurie Anderson collab is unreal.

oh no!!!!
kid millions!!! he is total monster drummer and i love his collaborations with other people, he has a generous spirit. get well soon colpitts!!

One of my favorite (secret) ILX posters of all-time. He's doing okay btw.

wait
wut

I've... said too much... never mind! ;-)

i come in peace
just got excited there for a second. he is a person i would really enjoy having a conversation with and maybe i already have!

!

One of the best drummers around, obviously. Feeling for the guy and wishing him a full recovery.

tfw you make a possibly ill-considered joke on Oneida's twitter about this and they finally hit 'like'

"shepherd's axe" is sharp, music for (millions in) hospitals

there is a gofundme thing for kid millions here:
https://www.gofundme.com/manforever

good to hear -- will donate.
the charnel ground record that just came out (kid millions + james mcnew + chris brokaw) is a total blast.
https://charnelground12xu.bandcamp.com/

https://www.secretlystore.com/resources/product/380/jag048.oneida.preorder.silver_ssthumb.jpg

The annals of Jagjaguwar have most unfortunately left a lot of cherished albums and projects from our catalogue long out of print on wax. Others are in need of a first-ever, proper vinyl pressing. The Jagjaguwar Reissue Series seeks to right these wrongs. The cornerstone alumni and albums upon which the House of Jag today stands can now reach new hearts and minds wherever turntables keep turning.

Awesome

Whooooooa. Tempted to get a backup copy...

New Kid Millions record, released under Colpitts, is really good.

Previously, Oneida pushed further into abstract sounds, recording compositions that couldn’t have been more different than the hammering anthems of their past. They return with 'Success', their most guitar-centric, rock album in decades.

https://oneida.bandcamp.com/album/success

fuck yes. been enjoying Colpitts' solo album and was hoping for some more new Oneida.

Pretty Velvets...

youtube.com/watch?v=2LWCfxQJ8Wc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LWCfxQJ8Wc

Digging all three songs out so far, "Rotten" dropped yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJWl1XSNT1Q

Guessing there must be some long jams yet to be unleashed on the new one, 3 of the 7 songs have been released and they only total about 12 minutes.

"Paralyzed" is almost 11 minutes and there are two others at more than seven. The record is really on it, a total surprise for AOTY that no one will realize until all the ballots are in.

Just got my copy today, can't wait to dig in!

Sadly, just saw that Kid Millions got COVID and their remaining tour dates are canceled.

Spinning this again today, this really is great. Might even be my favorite since Rated O.

Looking forward to listening to it for the first time soon.

I wasn’t mad on the singles, but it all works much better in context. Digging this, though I do wonder if their 00’s output isn’t everything I’ll ever need from them.

Sane for me. I am always glad they are doing stuff, and find things to enjoy alright about the more recent albums, but they don't work for me like the first run of albums with the original lineup (and the albums post-Papa C that were trio records).

Say, want to hear John Colpitts's old mid-90s band? Sure ya do.

https://astralmishagas.bandcamp.com/album/1996-1997

gosh it totally slipped my mind they were playing a bandshell concert in queens this past saturday with 75 dollar bill. kicking myself.

Still loving the new one, it's so great.

Mildly annoyed by Secretly Canadian with their distribution, ordered the Steel Rod EP and Happy New Year from them back in August, the two main holes in my Oneida collection and hadn't had any luck stumbling across copies in the wild. Every time I check back in I get a response about the items being "delayed coming from the warehouse", which fine, but creeping up on three months for older catalog titles they insist they have in stock seems like a long time. Mostly just annoyed that since I placed the order I've, naturally, came across a copy of each that I didn't buy because they were supposedly on the way.

Anyway, venting over, back to Success!

This is the greatest band, just such a killer catalog through and through.

I wish they would just release an album called You’e Having A Laugh already.