US Politics: July 2020 - "Denigrating this Luxury Avenue"

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Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

many are saying, the biggest yellow sign they've ever seen

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

It took me a long minute, but I finally sussed the Trumpian dog whistle in "denigrating".

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

they paved paradise and put up a lump of shit

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

I was kinda shocked you guys actually used it in the thread title, to be honest.

peace, man, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

"Denigrating this Luxury Avenue" is such uniquely Trumpian concern, a reminder that this 'man of the people' is just an old world moneybags twat.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

Eddy Grant's best song imo

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

You've got style, that's what all the girls say
Satin sheets, and luxury so fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWtpd8mS5jw

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

Eddy Grant's best song imo

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:38 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

kudos

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

took it higher

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

the feeling is bad, the feeling is bad

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

Disapproval of the job Donald Trump is doing as president is continuing to rise, with nearly 6 in 10 voters giving the president negative marks amid a new coronavirus surge throughout parts of the country, according to a new poll.

The latest POLITICO/Morning Consult survey, out Wednesday, found that Trump’s job approval sank to 39 percent, with 59 percent of voters disapproving. At the beginning of June, 41 percent of voters approved of the president’s job performance, while 55 percent disapproved.

The new, poor numbers for the president come as his chief rival for the presidency, former Vice President Joe Biden, opens up as much as a double-digit lead in some swing states in recent polling, with Election Day only four months away.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

I'm not quite ready to relax my crack (if only because, whatever else happens, I'm convinced that Barr will try to be a more intentional version of Comey at the 11th hour of this particular election cycle) but the last week or so has been the first time in four years that I've allowed myself to believe that Trump might actually lose and lose very very hard. Still, I could see him easily winning the votes of many people who are currently unhappy with his job performance because cognitive dissonance is still very much a thing.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

Also people gave W a second term

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

(I am very pointedly pretending I didn't read the phrase "relax my crack")

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

yeah i found myself pausing on that phrase and letting it marinate a little

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

In a non-fallen world, a terrible president who most people think is doing a terrible job and who responds to that assessment by consistently steering hard toward the impulses which make him terrible should be the easiest opponent in the world to clobber. But who even knows what 'electable' means anymore.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

U are welcome to marinate in my crack btw.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

brb, updating my Zazzle store

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

might make a good beach towel design - people love beach towels with muddy designs

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

In a non-fallen world, a terrible president who most people think is doing a terrible job and who responds to that assessment by consistently steering hard toward the impulses which make him terrible should be the easiest opponent in the world to clobber. But who even knows what 'electable' means anymore.

In a non-fallen world, a president like Trump ends up hung upside down in front of a gas station.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

Polling is well and good, but the people who turn out for the election are the only ones who matter. This, by my reckoning, tilts the table heavily in favor of four more years of DJT.

We've already witnessed knuckle-dragger voter suppression tactics being used in this cycle in Georgia, Arkansas and Kentucky. (Hi Brian Kemp!)

Plus, rabid Trump supporters have recently doubled-down on selfish decision making, and have leaned into poor risk assessment as a matter of personal pride. Redder areas have shown a willingness to buck recommendations re. public health that (IME) bluer areas obey.

GOP leadership, the Q-aligned, and the fringy paranoid right, are already agitating about a stolen election. Knowing that any democratic victories are going to be contested by a sizeable group does *not* agitate iffy Biden voters to show up on voting day.

& racism & William Barr & Shelby County v. Holder & Biden

rb (soda), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

"marinate in my crack" sounds like a bad google translation of "denigrate this luxury avenue" fwiw

rb (soda), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

wait -- I thought the initial story about voter suppression in Kentucky was a mistake?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

What happened was a good faith effort by a Dem governor to expand the franchise by mail, and he cut a deal with the GOP secretary of state.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Kentucky was not voter suppression unless you think the Democratic administration was trying to rig things against themselves

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

Headaches aside I thought voter turnout has been *up* in a lot of recent elections.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

Georgia Democrats cast more than three times as many votes in the Senate primary as they did in 2016

we're going to have voting problems here, but turnout will not be one of them

Brad C., Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

A) Kentucky was, as described, not voter suppression but rather "keep the voters alive if possible"
B) Turnout is way up on the D side, up but not by nearly as much on the R side. Folks are invested in getting rid of Donald Trump.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

Quick google:

Lead re: GA: "Democrats cast close to a million votes in the Senate primary, more than triple the number in the 2016 primary."

Lead re: KY: "Kentucky's primary election turnout broke records before a single polling location opened Tuesday, but despite the high interest, in-person voting at limited polling locations seemed to flow smoothly."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

xpost

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

As I understand it, there was just one polling location for 600,000 Louisville voters that stayed open for a a WHOPPING 30 minutes extra to accommodate the overflow?

remy bean, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

(I am fully prepared to be wrong, but I'd gotten the story about Kentucky from a friend who worked on the Booker campaign). And apologies if I missed something re. Georgia, but isn't it well-established that Kemp ordered the rollout of an enormous batch of new voting machines w/ wildly insufficient training for clerks all around the state)?

remy bean, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

As I understand it, KY made a good effort to shift towards mail in voting and the lack of polling places was not in fact down to pure voter suppression as it has been elsewhere.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link

This covers KY. https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/06/kentucky-the-day-after

dan selzer, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

I'm trying to imagine the batshittedness that is coming should one of these full on Q believers that made it past primaries end up in Congress.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

Relax your crack old lunch!

calstars, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

I'm trying to imagine the batshittedness that is coming should one of these full on Q believers that made it past primaries end up in Congress.

Honestly, how much worse will it be than the current House, which has Jim Jordan and Louie Gohmert in it?

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

i'm more curious about who will be the first sitting representative to "join" the Q caucus

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

louie gohmert, for example. i'm surprised he's not already a loud Q advocate, it seems right up his alley

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

and Matt Gaetz xpost

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

Oh I'm well aware of the borderline cases we have already, but someone fresh coming into Congress more or less explicitly feeling like they have a mandate to represent as a Q supporter will really up the batshit levels.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

i read https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/upshot/poll-trump-defectors-2020-election.html so you don't have to

this is the good quote, don't bother with the rest

"I think if he weren’t such an appalling human being, he would make a great president"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

if only he weren't made of meat, he would be good horse fodder

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

let no-one marinate rent-free in your crack

bat ain't Thad (sic), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

The appalling human being thing, that's pretty weird. I occasionally look at that Ask Trump Supporters reddit board and a lot of his defenders are the opposite: he is an appalling human being, but I think he is a good president. A big number of posters there seemed to concede that if he stopped tweeting so much he'd have much higher numbers. But then, they are Trump supporters, so by definition think he is a good president.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link

this is the good quote, don't bother with the rest

Sorry, but you're overlooking "He said he was going to, quote unquote, drain the swamp, and all he’s done is splashed around and rolled around in it"

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

Right, the "yeah, he could probably tone it down on Twitter, but that doesn't change my support" set is prevalent there.

1. Yes he's coarse and crude but he's doing what I want in government.

2. Yes he's sometimes overly thin-skinned but he's way better than Clinton (or Biden or any D alternative).

3. Yes, I wish he wasn't so childish on Twitter, but judges, economy, strong on immigration, etc.

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

xp

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

Sorry, but you're overlooking "He said he was going to, quote unquote, drain the swamp, and all he’s done is splashed around and rolled around in it"

― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:26 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that sounds like something hilary's team would workshop for a week and then schedule to tweet at 9am on a monday morning

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

Sorry, I cannot read a piece about Republican voters that was not reported from a folksy rural diner.

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

Thank you to those who read that. I saw it and was like 'do I truly care what a bunch of racist assholes who pretend they're not really think about anything?'

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

I'm not quite ready to relax my crack

true thread title imo

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

keep healthcare in the news

By my count, @cprwarner asked Senator Gardner six times whether he supports the Trump administration's attempts to dismantle the Affordable Care Act and Gardner never answered. #cosen #copolitics

A transcript: pic.twitter.com/1b4bElEcvh

— Justin Wingerter (@JustinWingerter) July 1, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link

It's real. https://t.co/Fhnw0o2iT4

— Bad Fox Graphics (@BadFoxGraphics) July 1, 2020

im out yall

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link

if Trump wins again, then truly nothing means anything anymore when it comes to campaigning. as awful as previous presidents like Dubya were, they at least PRETENDED that they were trying to win the votes of most Americans. almost every single thing Trump does and says scans like an attempt to cater to absolutely no one except the group of people who would already walk through fire for his dumb ass. as far as I know your vote doesn't count double if you orgasm while casting it, but it certainly seems like that's what he's aiming to elicit from his cultists.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 2 July 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link

Online donors poured a record $392 million into campaigns and causes via ActBlue in June, a sign of surging activism and political enthusiasm on the left that smashed the previous monthly high, from just before the 2018 election, by a whopping 50 percent.

The eye-popping numbers on ActBlue, the favored digital fundraising platform for the Democratic Party as well as a growing host of left-leaning nonprofits, make for a startling split-screen next to Great Depression-level unemployment and spiking coronavirus cases across the country.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

86 percent of the president’s 2016 voters are committed to voting for him again. (Six percent say there is “not really any chance” of them casting another ballot for the president, while 8 percent have said that they no longer support the president but are not sure if they will vote for him again.)

In other words, Trump is going to lose. He can't afford to shed a single voter.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link

I think he’s going to lose but that’s not true.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 July 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

Certainly isn't what you want the electorate to think before the vote happens. Great way to create wpathy about turn out if so. Want people to actually engage in voting not think it's already won.

Stevolende, Thursday, 2 July 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link

it's 12:42 am, chicago time, united states, 2020

it is finally time to ask the question:

what has the republican party gotten right since 1980 that the democrats didn't?

what did they take a position on that now seems to be good a decision. give them some credit. what did they do right?

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 05:45 (three years ago) link

it is 12:45 AM

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 05:45 (three years ago) link

Democrats and their base are interested in principles. Republicans and their base are focused on power, and thus are better able to retain it without principles getting in the way of what they need to do.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 2 July 2020 06:11 (three years ago) link

oh sorry I read your post as meaning "why do they have more power than their support base would seem able to give them" not "when did they make a principled stand", the answer to which is never, unless the appearance of principle added to their power base.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 2 July 2020 06:13 (three years ago) link

surely there must have been at least one time

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 06:25 (three years ago) link

I tell you what, googling "good decisions made by Republicans" is pretty hilarious

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 2 July 2020 07:03 (three years ago) link

This Sartre quote is apt:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link

From https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/isnt-hillary-clintons-polling/613690/">the Atlantic:

Which scenario is more likely: that Biden will blurt out something in the next few months that alienates women voters whose support he needs, or that Trump will express support for white supremacists that alienates almost everyone? That the economy suddenly kicks into high gear after a few months, or that millions of people remain unemployed? That America gets the coronavirus under control, or that new outbreaks tear through state after state? The escalating number of infections and hospitalizations, as The Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein recently pointed out, is wreaking havoc in the very suburban counties of Arizona, Georgia, Florida, and Texas that Trump needs to carry.

Even before the pandemic, the American political landscape had changed dramatically since Trump’s election, and not in ways that favor the incumbent. Biden’s big poll lead should not make Democrats complacent, but neither should members of my party shake their heads and think, Here it comes again. Rather, the current polls should persuade Democrats to work for the greatest possible rejection of a widely distrusted U.S. president and the political party that enables him.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link

From https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/isnt-hillary-clintons-polling/613690">the Atlantic:

Which scenario is more likely: that Biden will blurt out something in the next few months that alienates women voters whose support he needs, or that Trump will express support for white supremacists that alienates almost everyone? That the economy suddenly kicks into high gear after a few months, or that millions of people remain unemployed? That America gets the coronavirus under control, or that new outbreaks tear through state after state? The escalating number of infections and hospitalizations, as The Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein recently pointed out, is wreaking havoc in the very suburban counties of Arizona, Georgia, Florida, and Texas that Trump needs to carry.

Even before the pandemic, the American political landscape had changed dramatically since Trump’s election, and not in ways that favor the incumbent. Biden’s big poll lead should not make Democrats complacent, but neither should members of my party shake their heads and think, Here it comes again. Rather, the current polls should persuade Democrats to work for the greatest possible rejection of a widely distrusted U.S. president and the political party that enables him.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link

Broadly agree but “almost everyone” is doing a lot of work in that first sentence considering Trump already has expressed support for white supremacists many times.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link

He's not even trying to hide it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb4NNZGUEAEKLXx?format=jpg&name=medium

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link

An amusing aside from this Reuters piece:

Trump's falling poll numbers worry some fellow Republicans they will lose control of the U.S. Senate, having already lost leadership of the House of Representatives in 2018.

The source said perhaps as soon as August, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell may have to advise Republican Senate candidates to distance themselves from Trump if needed to win election and keep their majority.

McConnell's office did not respond to a request for comment.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

It would be incredible to see Asshole spend the last few weeks/months of his "campaign" raging at Republicans on twitter.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

So another job for Kushner, aka the Dauphin.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

Some areas that were very hard hit are now doing very well, some were doing very well and we thought they may be gone but they flare up and we're putting out the fires, but other places were long before us, and they're now...it's like life, it's got a life, and we're putting out that life 'cause that's a bad life that we're talking about.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Like maybe someone smarter than me can confirm, but these super great and historic jobs numbers...they're like if someone chopped all of my limbs off and then I came across a wayward arm and had someone sew it on my flailing torso and then trumpeted the unprecedented rise in the number of new limbs I have, no one in history has ever seen me acquire so many new limbs in such a short time, it's really something else.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

he current polls should persuade Democrats to work for the greatest possible rejection of a widely distrusted U.S. president and the political party that enables him.

yes, this. he's going to say it was all rigged, either way. might as well put him on the defensive so he has to say "i didn't lose by the widest margin in american history! it's fake!"

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

Politico headline I had to read twice:

Donald Tusk: ‘I pray for Joe Biden’s success’

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

sorry, what is he not trying to hide with the baseball?

akm, Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

88 = HH

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

"heil hitler"

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

maybe he's a Dodgers fan

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

there are other items in the store that end in 8, such as $38, or $78, so it's possible it's just a coincidence (though what an insane price for a baseball), but naturally, context matters, and his constantly not wanting to condemn White Supremacists while having other invocations of "88" having previously appeared in his campaign, yeaaaaaaaa....

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

ah ha, I completely missed it, was looking at the baseball and trying to understand how that color was 'navy' when it just looked like muddy murky grey to me.

akm, Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

i've never been into the 88 thing just because he loudly and overtly proclaims his white supremacy in a million other ways

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

*looks beyond hitler's nazi armpatch, heil hitler salute, and ongoing speech to the nazi masses gathered to watch him*

"...wait is hitler selling commemorative socks for 88 reichspfennig?"

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

it's probably members of his own team that either

a) ARE white supremacists, and taking an opportunity to show this off or
b) assholes who are trolling, but to be honest, i see no distinction between b and a at this point

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

I've mentioned this before but after that "14 out of every 88 immigrants" press release I have no doubt they're doing this shit on purpose, for the same reason they do the "OK sign" thing, it's just a game that generates a ton of 'oh NUMBERS are racist now!?' fake outrage

frogbs, Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

Yeah, Trump is not setting the price of anything on that website. But $88 exactly? It's pretty conspicuous, especially coming right on the heels of that America First shirt. I mean, the phrase America First itself is problematic. Throw in the logo, however much it might look like the Marines logo, and benefit of the doubt starts to carry more weight than it can handle.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he said that Hitler had some great ideas.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

i mean there's no way to prove this so this is dumb, but can there be any doubt that if the nazis were running across europe right now, trump would be sending them missiles and trying to join the axis powers? empire, power, fear, strength, lies, propaganda, white supremacy! these are trump's people!

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

it's probably members of his own team that either

a) ARE white supremacists, and taking an opportunity to show this off or
b) assholes who are trolling, but to be honest, i see no distinction between b and a at this point

― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:41 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes, a trolling online cosplay Nazi is a fuckin Nazi, period, leave us not equivocate.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

if you’re a woman supporting trump, i feel bad for you. you must really hate yourself. lots of internalized misogyny... yikes

— CLAUDIA CONWAY (@claudiamconwayy) July 2, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

I love the implied ", MOM" at the end

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

do you think the three of them ever have dinner together? kellyanne fucking conway, project lincoln george conway, and antifa claudia

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

i think it's just a game to all three of them

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

There's a reality show pitch.

jmm, Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

on november 4, the elder conways will be doing this (probably before fucking)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dv5G7pTt7DY/hqdefault.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

zero attention being paid to the (superficially good) job numbers. people get it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

(i mean granted it's the top story at the NYT because they are a Serious Paper read my captains of industry, but no one else thinks the nubmers mean anything and running on these is not going to work)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

tbf the graph is pretty clear

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/07/02/reader-center/final-jobs-promo/final-jobs-promo-master1050.png

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

Trump baseball at $88 is crazy!

calstars, Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

the 88 shit is above all there to trigger the libs. stop linking it breathlessly every time

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

Hmm:

Online donors poured a record $392 million into campaigns and causes via ActBlue in June, a sign of surging activism and political enthusiasm on the left that smashed the previous monthly high, from just before the 2018 election, by a whopping 50 percent.

The eye-popping numbers on ActBlue, the favored digital fundraising platform for the Democratic Party as well as a growing host of left-leaning nonprofits, make for a startling split-screen next to Great Depression-level unemployment and spiking coronavirus cases across the country.

But the left’s online giving surge is blunting one of President Donald Trump's remaining advantages in the presidential election, as his poll numbers sink: his financial edge. Small-dollar donors are filling up Joe Biden’s campaign coffers, giving Democratic Senate and House candidates a financial cushion in many of the biggest 2020 elections, and pouring resources into newly emboldened civil rights organizations, which are scaling up rapidly amid rising support for the Black Lives Matter movement.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

newly emboldened civil rights organizations

peculiar turn of phrase there

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

who the fuck is gonna pay $88 for a fucking baseball is the thing

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

I think you can get a signed Pete rose for 50

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

Yeah, but he's been disgraced, unlike Trump.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

Herman Cain Hospitalized After Testing Positive For Coronavirus Ten Days After Attending Tulsa Rally https://t.co/P8Nw7Aig7h via @TPM

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 2, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

(cough)

Here’s just a few of the #BlackVoicesForTrump at tonight’s rally! Having a fantastic time!#TulsaRally2020 #Trumptulsa #TulsaTrumprally #MAGA #Trump2020 #Trump2020Landslide pic.twitter.com/27mUzkg7kL

— Herman Cain (@THEHermanCain) June 20, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

I'm kind of worried about myself spiritually
I really deeply want these deniers to get COVID and die, can't be good for the soul

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

when you’re up 28-3 in the Super Bowl with 2 mins remaining in the 3rd quarter pic.twitter.com/J1CX8W4tvy

— Donté Stallworth (@DonteStallworth) July 2, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

ok, i just noticed the original poster and lol'd hard

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

Herman Cain's temperature was reported to be nine nine nine

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

ok come on just for pure comedic/trolling value this is vg, I say keep 'em coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUBAAeuBpPQ

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

Not strictly politics but yikes
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/china-hair-uyghur-cpb-trnd/index.html

Nhex, Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link

Wax Poetics, RIP.

Two Spocks Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

xxp

“It’s not just pissing off Donald Trump. Anybody could do that,” Galen said. “It’s, to what effect? Like, why are you doing it? And the point is to take him off his game and take his campaign off their game, strategically and tactically, so that the Biden campaign and Joe Biden can have the freedom of movement and the green air to do the things that they need to do.”

This is an absurdly self-aggrandizing argument. The idea that the Biden campaign needs the aid of a group of former Republicans to “take [Trump’s] campaign off their game” doesn’t track with anything that has happened over the last three-and-a-half years. The president is constantly distracted and disheveled. The Lincoln Project may be the flavor of the month, but the president would still be rage-tweeting about minor slights if the PAC had never come into being. There is an argument, moreover, that advertisements mocking the president’s physical fitness and calling for attacks on Russian troops distract from the Biden campaign’s core message: the economy, the coronavirus, and Trump’s temperament.

What, then, is the Lincoln Project up to? Going viral is, more than ever, its own reward, something surely not lost on a group of political consultants who have been sidelined as Trump and his allies have taken over a GOP that used to listen to them. The success of their ads on social media is a claim of relevancy and could easily lead to more work—which is to say, more money.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

Well, duh. All political ads are ultimately about money. But I'm sure the Biden campaign would rather have their help than have them try to hurt him, not least because I don't exactly see people circulating Biden campaign ads. If they can do better, they should.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

yeah, duh is right. I read that article the first time it was posted and it's bracingly dumb. How the argument they're making applies any more to these Lincoln Project ads than any other stupid low-rent throw-them-off-their-game ads is entirely lost on me.

Just say it pisses you off that Republicans are doing it.

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link

anyone arguing it's not "helpful" to Biden that Republicans are spending money sniping at Trump is just being disingenuous and should instead spend that energy making the case for publicly funded elections

of course it fucking "helps" him, if only to the extent that it doesn't hurt him

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

I remain convinced that the “beer summit” was the effective end of the Obama administration, whether they knew it then or not. That was the moment Republicans looked at the Obama WH and said “oh shit, this is how they’re going to handle our bullshit, happy days are here again” https://t.co/eg0MfFU62O

— August J. Pollak (@AugustJPollak) July 1, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

I dunno. Jedd Fessions sure seemed mad about it.

Boring, Maryland, Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

I might be generous enough to grandfather in some people who've left the flock but I'd never trust any motherfucker who currently identifies as a republican no matter how they may try in the future to kick dirt over their current affiliation with abject evil.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

totally agreed, just not sure what that has to do w/ the efficacy of these ads

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

"liberals trained on years of west wing believe that if biden wins the gop will have a come to jesus moment"

afaict some bot absorbed twitter and spat out this sentence

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

there aren't actually that many years of west wing

j., Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

am i allowed to suggest that the left have been brain-poisoned by resistance pundits

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

here's how much mental energy i've devoted to the fucking lincoln project:

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

youre a new yorker not a liberal, honeychile

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link

i guess i have been here for a decade and hate the mayor

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link

j, that show debuted in '99 and has been a lodestone for a large sect ever since

and we're not even counting spinoffs like The Obama Fantasy

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

xp that and $29 will get you a mask and a subway token

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

the Beer Summit was the Obama era's most embarrassing moment, yes, and predictable.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link

My only concern with Lincoln Whatever is: someone who's an anti-Trumper while remaining a loyal Republican might split their ballot and vote against Trump while voting R downticket. In which case, fuck them slightly less than a straight-ticket R voter, but still fuck them.

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

As far as the Gates episode goes, were Sessions' comments merely just extreme ignorance or was he knowingly slandering Gates?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

One asshole says to another asshole, 'About this asshole...'

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

It sounded like he heard about it 2nd hand and didn't really grasp what happened, but maybe that's giving him way more credit than he deserves.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

How is that giving him credit?

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 2 July 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

[i]On Wednesday, three Trump confidants told Axios that the president regrets heeding Jared Kushner’s advice to broaden his appeal by embracing milquetoast police and criminal-justice reforms; as one source summarized Trump’s thinking, he wants “no more of Jared’s woke shit.”

This account of Trump’s private reasoning comports with his public actions in recent days. Just this week, the president has:

• Described New York’s plan to paint “Black Lives Matter” down Fifth Avenue as a plot to affix a “symbol of hate” onto the city’s “greatest street.”

• Threatened to end an Obama-era policy that bars local governments from accessing federal housing funds unless they make affirmative efforts to track and reduce racial segregation in their communities. Trump said that he was reviewing this regulation on behalf of the “great Americans who live in the Suburbs,” and lamented that the policy is “not fair to homeowners.”

• Vowed to veto the Defense Authorization Act unless an amendment requiring the renaming of U.S. military bases that presently honor Confederate generals is stripped from the bill. (In announcing this position, Trump made sure to note that the amendment was sponsored by “Elizabeth ‘Pocahontas’ Warren.”)

If one imagines Trump to be a rational political actor, it is difficult to make sense of these actions. According to Axios, Trump soured on Kushner’s calls for triangulation on criminal justice out of concern that indulging such reforms might be “seen as undercutting police” — as though anti-reform cops and Blue Lives Matter bumper-sticker owners were swing constituencies. George Floyd’s death has created plenty of political challenges for Trump. But one thing it absolutely hasn’t done is jeopardize the Republican Party’s grip on single-issue, “unshackle the police” voters.[/i[

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link

“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”“no more of Jared’s woke shit.”

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 July 2020 00:38 (three years ago) link

^ quoting the unnamed source, not Trump directly.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 3 July 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link

Well, yeah.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 July 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link

Still an amazing collection of words worth highlighting.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 July 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link

Partially because a lot of MAGA chuds have co-opted 'Woke', and Q-followers have gone further with 'The Great Awakening' against the 'Deep State'.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 July 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link

trump is making “woke” hats pic.twitter.com/myOP8itXUe

— Meena Harris (@meenaharris) February 27, 2020

$35!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 July 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

We've known Trump is Mr. 'Double Down Whenever I Shit the Bed' for at least the past several centuries of his endless misrule.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 3 July 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb81HY_U4AAhwWv?format=jpg&name=900x900

lol

calzino, Friday, 3 July 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

notorious woke SJW and civil rights extremist Jared Kushner

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 July 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

$35 is crazy. You could get a baseball for 2.5 of those hats.

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

NEW: Maine House Speaker Sara Gideon, the likely Democratic candidate against GOP Sen. Susan Collins, raised an astounding $9 million in the second quarter.

— Kevin Robillard (@Robillard) July 2, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

I really deeply want these deniers to get COVID and die, can't be good for the soul

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:16 PM bookmarkflaglink

what's funny is I forget how much more jaded most of us are than the rest of the people I know so I'll say shit like this out loud and people say "that's fucked up, you shouldn't wish death on people!"

actually makes me feel bad for a moment.....until I remember my brothers and sisters used to kill each other over squirrel meat

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 July 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=701nEE_aSlY

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 3 July 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link

I really deeply want these deniers to get COVID and die, can't be good for the soul

the soul yearns for cosmic justice

j., Friday, 3 July 2020 03:25 (three years ago) link

I mean...they're people who don't give a fuck about their own well being or the well being of others, to the extent that they pose an active risk to the well being and the very lives within their communities-at-large. Given the circumstances, it's perfectly okay to hope for their hasty demise, imo. They're like a quarter step away from being full-on terrorists afaic.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 July 2020 03:31 (three years ago) link

i also hope that every time they try to speak they violently shit themselves

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 July 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

Is that Tennessee mayor actually Thanos or did they manipulate the photo to make him look like that?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 3 July 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link

talking to my mom in tennessee is scary in that she keeps talking about how hard this is everywhere but tennessee and i can't get her to acknowledge they are in trouble
luckily, she's aware of the danger and seems to be taking it seriously enough not to frivolously go out.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 3 July 2020 03:55 (three years ago) link

cases were very low in east tennessee until the last 2-3 weeks.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 July 2020 08:24 (three years ago) link

xp, nope, that's really him: Kane! The Undertaker's Brother of Destruction!

Nhex, Friday, 3 July 2020 08:44 (three years ago) link

Biden Supporters Are More Worried About the Health Risks of Voting

Hey, this is what I said this yesterday! Democrats have better risk-assessment skills than Trump-supporting Republicans! This time there are, like, graphs tho:

Over all, the voters who said they would be too uncomfortable to vote in person back Mr. Biden, 63 percent to 9 percent [for Trump].

Even so, Mr. Biden does not appear to be at a meaningful enthusiasm disadvantage: 65 percent of his supporters said they were “very enthusiastic” about voting this November, compared with 66 percent of Mr. Trump’s supporters. Importantly, the survey question asked whether respondents were enthusiastic about voting, not whether they were enthusiastic about the candidate they supported — where Mr. Biden appears to be at a more significant disadvantage.

(Flip side is that the six battleground states being tracked offer voting by mail.)

remy bean, Friday, 3 July 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

I am willing to collapse and die in-line after turning in my ballot if it means getting Derpton Trumpo out of office

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 July 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

vote AND die!!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 3 July 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

Die and Vote!

many people are saying the demoncrats have already stolen the election by sending in millions of fraudulent ballots from dead people

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

https://i.redd.it/ejrb79eqog851.png

sleeve, Friday, 3 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

i wonder how that would play out at a county level, rather than at the state level. i'd guess that even in states that trump carried, the bulk of the deaths have been in cities or more populated areas, including blue counties in red states

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 July 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

Karl OTM - cases and deaths are very correlated with population density for reasons that ought to be obvious. Nevertheless, as the pandemic has progressed, blue and red states (also, roughly, D and R governors) have diverged largely because of different attitude s toward precautions.

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 July 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

Importantly, the survey question asked whether respondents were enthusiastic about voting, not whether they were enthusiastic about the candidate they supported — where Mr. Biden appears to be at a more significant disadvantage.

Why is that "importantly"? Voting is what seals the deal and wins the election. Sitting around watching the campaign ads and thinking 'atta boy, you go!' is comparatively unimportant.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 3 July 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

I don't wanna pick on you sleeve but "who's winning the pandemic, team red or team blue" is something I really hate about COVID discourse.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 3 July 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

yeah that's fair, it just seemed relevant. I imagine the #s will even out (and deaths are skewed different as noted) but gee what a difference actual state level policy makes

sleeve, Friday, 3 July 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

is there a correlation with the relative shittiness of state healthcare in general? i.e. states that have foregone medicaid expansion?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 July 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

Holy fucking shit:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcBrKUWX0AIOXNq.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 3 July 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

Trump Rushmore speech will slam “left wing mob” trying to tear down “our history," campaign official briefed tells @ABC News

POTUS will argue "left wing mob" and "cancel culture" are pushing "totalitarian behavior...completely alien to American life," source said (not excerpts)

— Will Steakin (@wsteaks) July 3, 2020

The president will "tell the truth about America’s history and he will tell the truth about those trying to tear it down and divide our country," the senior Trump campaign official said of tonight's Rushmore speech

— Will Steakin (@wsteaks) July 3, 2020

Gee, I wonder which "senior Trump campaign official" would say a thing like that? Could it be the skinny, dead-eyed, prematurely bald Nazi? 'Tis a mystery indeed...

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

AOC-Claudia Conway 2040

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

cool -- he's expanding his base

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

Claudia is going to be grounded til 2050, with that attitude

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

expanding his base and playing with his balls

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

I suspect this controversy is every bit as scripted as the stuff with the parents

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

George and Kellyanne are the same person actually

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

cool -- he's expanding his base

He'll win over Andrew Sullivan and Jonathan Chait, anyway. Conor Friedersdorf, too, probably.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

the conways are auditioning for a tv show

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

How the argument they're making applies any more to these Lincoln Project ads than any other stupid low-rent throw-them-off-their-game ads is entirely lost on me.

It doesn't, but those are the ones people are posting here.

Just say it pisses you off that Republicans are doing it.

well, yes, they're a bunch of murderous bush-era republicans trying to rehabilitate themselves in the eyes of credulous "i can't wait to not think about politics when trump is gone" centrists. that does bother me, and it bothers me to see their content get promoted here and on twitter.

there's also the fact they're running on issues that, among persuadable voters, have proven to be ineffective at best, and are probably counter-productive (we should give russia hell, the president is a vulgarian, etc.).

they fucking suck.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

POTUS will argue "left wing mob" and "cancel culture" are pushing "totalitarian behavior...completely alien to American life," source said (not excerpts)

Will Steven Salaita deliver the rebuttal?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

i don't think a speech about culture wars using twitter terms of art that make no sense to normal people is going to win a general election, but let's see if it pays off for him.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link

let's see if we can tell which parts bret stephens wrote

mookieproof, Friday, 3 July 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

George and Kellyanne are the same person actually


https://bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Psycho.jpg

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

caek by "you" I meant the author(s) of that article

anyway I suspeect the effect of all televised PAC ads is cumulative, through repetition, and general. The vast majority of people who see them aren't paying any attention to who is producing them, and aren't participating in the rehabilitation of their producers' reputations.

I mean, Joe Biden himself needs a lot of rehab—he's a major player in policies his ooponent is now defending. So is posting his ads here, and those of the DNC, "promoting" his exoneration?

They all suck and all want Trump to lose for a variety of complementary reasons

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

I guess the real takeaway for me is that I shouldn't be allowed to post without putting on my reading glasses, and I have to stop pretending I don't need them in order to get through a single sentence w/o a typo

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

The vast majority of people who see them aren't paying any attention to who is producing them

exactly?!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

so what does it matter then? It's the same exact message the DNC is producing

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

it's not like there's a "btw, we quietly condone more tax breaks for the 1%" voiceover at the end

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

if you think it makes no difference to the outcome of the election and you agree it's an attempt to make money and launder the reputations of extremely bad people, can you see the problem?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

I don't think those things. Or rather I don't think in the latter case it will do that, nobody cares.

Anyway the reputation laundering comes w/ the Biden nomination. Whose forgiveness are they looking for?

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

To the extent any political ads "make a difference" I believe they are "effective."

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

they have bought TV advertising in DC only (zero electoral votes). they have a total ad spend of $400k. they don't care about persuading persuadable people of anything, and it shows.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

it's not like there's a "btw, we quietly condone more tax breaks for the 1%" voiceover at the end

― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, July 3, 2020 5:29 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

no, they are a group of national security hawks.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

I think these people are genuine in their disdain for and indignation abt Trump. So no, I don't think it's primarily about reputation laundering and money. I think they are sincere in their small differences.

That doesn't mean they aren't also shitty people whose whole legacy should go up in flames.

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

they 100% want the biden admin to feel like it owes them something

Clay, Friday, 3 July 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

the reason they spend that money in DC is because they know the real value in these ads is getting written up and talked about

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

i'm not saying they aren't doing a good job of getting talked about!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

if anybody thinks the clincher for Joe Biden and the DNC feeling indebted to people like Joe Scarborough and George Conway is anti-Trump TV commericals I have a credit card lobby to sell you

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

i ... ok. i give up.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

advertising in DC only (zero electoral votes)

? DC has electoral votes.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 July 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

granted, it's only like, 3, but....

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 July 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

xp DC gets the shaft in Congress but they do have electoral votes! (Though the disposition of those votes is not going to be affected by Lincoln Project ads....)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 3 July 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

Whether or not some anti-Trump republican operatives manage to rehabilitate their reputations among DC insiders via the Lincoln Project is a problem so small in my personal scheme of things that it is no more than a pocket handkerchief-sized cloud in a sky spawning multiple tornados. My political job as I see it is to do what I can to render the specific rung these operatives occupy in the republican hierarchy irrelevant, through denying the entire GOP power for as long as possible in as many places as possible.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 3 July 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

i was aware of that! xp

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

*not!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

the rare double waynes world reference, you love to see it

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link

NEW: 'We need to live with it': White House readies new message for the nation on coronavirus https://t.co/KsVb76v1cd

— Geoff Bennett (@GeoffRBennett) July 3, 2020



Sounds like a winner to me

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link

maybe Eva Marie Saint will show up packin' at Mt Rushmore

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 July 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

Donald Trump, the Neville Chamberlain of the Covid war.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 July 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

they have bought TV advertising in DC only

Is there a person in that market who watches TV

And whose worldview is uniquely susceptible to things seen on the TV

And who has relatively few other information sources

Hmmm

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 July 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

I think trump is distracted and doing a bad job running his campaign for reasons other than a single very small ad buy. There’s literally an episode of the west wing about this logical fallacy. You’d think the west wing fans who retweet this shit would spot it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 July 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link

Texas GOP Powerbroker In Being Fascist SHOCKAH!

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/03/steve-hotze-texas-greg-abbott-rioters/

"I want you to give a message to the governor," Hotze told Abbott's chief of staff, Luis Saenz, in a voicemail. "I want to make sure that he has National Guard down here and they have the order to shoot to kill if any of these son-of-a-bitch people start rioting like they have in Dallas, start tearing down businesses — shoot to kill the son of a bitches. That’s the only way you restore order. Kill ‘em. Thank you."

The voicemail, which The Texas Tribune obtained Friday via a public information request, came on the weekend of June 6, several days after Abbott activated the Texas National Guard as some of the protests became violent. It is unclear whether Saenz responded, and Abbott's office declined to comment on the voicemail.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 July 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

Haha, DJTJ's blow-up doll has tested positive for Covid-19.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/us/politics/kimberly-guilfoyle-trump-campaign-coronavirus.html

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 July 2020 03:42 (three years ago) link

"When you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas."

-- Albert Einstein --

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:00 (three years ago) link

look at this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkGHdJIwiHg

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link

right now it's a brass band playing popular patriotic hits from the late 1800s while the camera shows a zoomed in shot of mount rushmore lit up by lights and occasional birds flying by in the night

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:02 (three years ago) link

oh, maybe it just concluded. that would explain the c-span after the speech vibe

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:02 (three years ago) link

not watching this but I'm hearing it's like a Vic Berger edit in real time

frogbs, Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:04 (three years ago) link

be a shame if the fireworks became sentient and started destroying people

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:06 (three years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-mount-rushmore.html

Under the granite gaze of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt, Mr. Trump announced plans to establish what he described as a “vast outdoor park that will feature the statues of the greatest Americans to ever live,” an apparent repudiation of the growing pressure to remove statues tied to slavery or colonialism.

As he arrived, Air Force One performed a flyover of Mount Rushmore. His campaign promoted the stunt online, calling him “the coolest president ever.”

j., Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:46 (three years ago) link

It’s called the hall of fame and it’s in upper Manhattan and no one goes there and it was never “finished”

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:47 (three years ago) link

will feature the statues of the greatest Americans to ever live,

it will include both andrew jackson and donald trump, 100% guarantee

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:51 (three years ago) link

No, but Scalia!!

This is the proposed list of statues in the National Garden of American Heroes from Trump's executive order. pic.twitter.com/l918TFdgnq

— Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) July 4, 2020

jaymc, Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:55 (three years ago) link

(I mean, I guess it could also include Trump and Jackson. But they're not mandated in the EO.)

jaymc, Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:56 (three years ago) link

Under the granite gaze of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt, Mr. Trump announced plans to establish what he described as a “vast outdoor park that will feature the statues of the greatest Americans to ever live,”

curmudgeon, Saturday, 4 July 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link

Finally, what this nation needs: inert symbols of nostalgia

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:07 (three years ago) link

John Wayne

— Kem Kromik (@KemKromik) July 4, 2020

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

captain kirk

j., Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:15 (three years ago) link

xposts

i can't believe there's actually a list! in the EO!

loooooool it's like a 7th grade class project

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:16 (three years ago) link

where the hell is ayn rand

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:16 (three years ago) link

she's as american as they come

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:16 (three years ago) link

sorry. there's a list of greatest americans for the new statue garden in an executive order? ahhahahah

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

and scalia is on it

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

would rush limbaugh be in the garden if he died?

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

the answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:33 (three years ago) link

billy graham

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:34 (three years ago) link

The only religious nutjob Steven Miller can remember the name of.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link

Hope Tubman enjoys being a statue instead of getting on the $20.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 July 2020 05:57 (three years ago) link

Tesla is another brilliant suggestion from the comments

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Saturday, 4 July 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link

QAnoners are reporting that Melania wearing an Alexander McQueen dress tonight is a signal that Time's Up for famous paedos.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 July 2020 06:05 (three years ago) link

Trump must have got inspiration from his last trip to Moscow

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR4raSbFJPGAcDxpRB3wFVD2rzK2rrErUHujQ&usqp=CAU

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 4 July 2020 06:08 (three years ago) link

Haha, DJTJ's blow-up doll has tested positive for Covid-19.


This is a vile post

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 4 July 2020 08:04 (three years ago) link

was just about to say, please do not call women "blow-up dolls," it's really sexist and fucked up.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 4 July 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link

The desire to tone police what we call right wing nitwits who are actively trying to kill people is a weird thing to me always but ymmv

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 4 July 2020 11:34 (three years ago) link

there's probs a way to do it without sounding like a sexist

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 4 July 2020 12:01 (three years ago) link

I am absolutely sexist toward DJTJ’s new slam piece, yes.

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 4 July 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link

stop it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 July 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

I mean it's not so much "tone policing" as suggesting maybe don't use the language of misogynists when describing women, even those who seem entirely awful and are dating awful men, but whatevs

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 4 July 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

additionally, it's about sculpting what kind of space we want ilx to be. "slam piece" and "blow-up doll" are the language of juvenile misogynists. this isn't 4chan and as a group i believe we all want more women to feel comfortable posting and conversing here, not fewer.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 4 July 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link

otm

Irritable Baal (WmC), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

Hey remember that Kentucky primary?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/04/coronavirus-voting-kentucky-primary-348611

Coronavirus has upended elections around the country since the pandemic landed in America, and last month, Kentucky was feared to be the next disaster. National figures from Hillary Clinton to LeBron James warned of impending calamity in the state, focusing on a dramatic decrease in polling places, especially in Louisville.

But after the votes came in, Kentucky earned measured praise from voting rights advocates for how it largely sidestepped the missing ballots, long lines and other problems faced by many states amid coronavirus. The Democratic governor and Republican secretary of state reached bipartisan agreement on a massive expansion of absentee voting, leading to the highest primary turnout in Kentucky since the hard-fought 2008 presidential primary.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

Hmm wonder why no women post here any more? Could it be the unironic use of honestly pretty fucking extreme misogynist language? No must be something else.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link

What about “Great Value Melania”

saw that today and chuckled

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

Misogynistic language doesn’t help, but if you think that’s the only reason women don’t post as much...

Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

I value the women who post here greatly, and I would be highly pissed off if some smartass flexing their locker room slang turned ilx into another internet dude ranch

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

No of course. Necessary but not sufficient.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

I guess it ain't kayfabe after all

I thought twitter’s hide replies feature was dumb. I have been proven wrong. pic.twitter.com/4JXvpQhJId

— keyvan (کیوان) (@shafieikeyvan) July 3, 2020

frogbs, Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

have you ever met, seen, observed, heard about, read about, or know anything about Kimberly Guilfoyle? that term is actually polite where she's concerned.

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

also: she was in Rapid city meeting with donors, zero mask, then apparently tested positive for Covid. Anyway I'm particularly irked by this because my mom lives in Rapid, which doesn't have very high numbers, but thanks Kimberly, for coming into town and being a super spreader, my mother starts chemo in a week and still has to live in the city you shed your fucking viral goo all over.

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

also, can't someone just take Trump to a Madame Tussaud's and tell him his garden is complete?

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

"blow-up doll is a compliment for THIS woman i dislike" is BS in the same way that "blow-up doll" is in the first place

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

imho

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

xxpost and then embalm him alive

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

yeah, it's fairly obvious the target isn't the problem of the comment, but the comment itself.

cos it implies the moment any woman gets on your bad side, you're sitting on these comments ready to dish them out.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

I see your point re down ballot effects on beloved ILX posters being here anymore bc of that language! Ty. DJTJ’s new wife is still tragic

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

i don't think they ever got married. and now they never will, because they will both die, holding hands, smiling, because they didn't wear masks and look like pussies.

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

The bravest way

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

I should not have used the awfullest of terms to describe the woman in question. I apologise--particularly to any of our Female posters who were offended--for using the term.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 July 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

I guess I don't understand the presumption that the Conway's daughter thing was kayfabe when it seems much more reasonable that a rebellious rich teenager hates her awful parents

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 July 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

seems pretty clear from her earlier social media posts which they made her delete that she does not agree whatsoever with her mother's political views.

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

at one point her mother didn't agree with her own views on Trump

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

really who wouldn't be embarrassed of a mother who wore a "patriotic" dress on Inauguration Day that turned out to be a UK-themed design

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

It's the family drama, not the individual viewpoints, that's manufactured for the sake of clicks.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 4 July 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

why? this seems like "PHOTOSHOPPED"-level skepticism

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

yeah there are easier ways to make money when you are these people

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

I mean obviously it's possible but kids acting out on Twitter, even famous children of public figures, is hardly a new thing, and they don't always wind up being "pilot for new reality show".

sometimes I feel like this thread = "I found Waldo! yay me!"

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

sometimes a mess is just a mess

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

there's no finding waldo, you have to create him yourself
https://i.imgur.com/6kA9IYB.jpg

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

Maybe he’s on this thread!

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

Waldo was within each of us, all along.

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

Btw, Qanon, Proud Boys, Hawaiian-shirt wearing Boogaloos ... who the fuck are these fringe groups and what's their deal? Where's Weirdo is more like it.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

This shit is just so weeeeeird:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/03/ufc-qanon-mma-far-right-fake-news-conspiracies

Former UFC title challenger and Special Forces Green Beret Tim Kennedy shared an Instagram post of himself wearing a Hawaiian shirt beneath a bulletproof vest while holding a rifle. The Hawaiian shirt alludes to the Boogaloo Boys, a far-right extremist movement that is preparing for a second American civil war which they call the “boogaloo”. Participants often wear Hawaiian shirts along with military fatigues to identify themselves at protests.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

xp

White supremacists, lunatics, and white supremacist lunatics.

You all may be right about the Conways, but this is a totally unscrupulous family that likes to play up their political differences for online rubberneckers, so...

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

is this the first time you're encountering those dumbasses?

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

abolish the UFC

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

Hawaiians, Pacific Islanders & Trader Joe's employees must be so bummed at the alt-right co-opting aloha shirts.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

No, I know about all these dummies, but Qanon aside, I wonder what Proud Boys and Boogaloo have to offer that traditional crazy separatist and supremacist groups don't? (Aside from, I presume, breakdancing competitions.)

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

in some ways the Hawaiian shirt thing feels like a continuation of Boyd Rice types worshipping Martin Denny and the like

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

not exactly about the US, but some heavily armed Qanon nutter was arrested after ramming his way onto Justin Trudeau's property.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

xpost totally Boyd Rice

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

I usually stay away from these threads, but this seemed important: <url=https://celebrityinsider.org/president-donald-trumps-mt-rushmore-rally-brings-out-mary-hart-as-a-maga-supporter-while-don-jr-s-girlfriend-kimberly-guilfoyle-tests-positive-for-covid-19-412748/>;Liberal Hollywood has lost Mary Hart</url>.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

"QAnoners are reporting that Melania wearing an Alexander McQueen dress tonight is a signal that Time's Up for famous paedos"

how does this signal anything of the sort?

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

(ugh, sorry for messing up link)

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Saturday, 4 July 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

how does this signal anything of the sort?

You have no flair for conspiracist thinking. An obvious signal would tip off the famous paedos that Their Time Is Up, allowing them a headstart on the Forces of Justice and perhaps escaping to their undersea hideouts. Secret signals have to be opaque, as when two spies meet and confirm one another's identities by each wearing brown shoes and having the following conversation:

"I hear the moon is in its dark phase tonight."

"Yes. It makes my monkey lose his appetite."

You are to disregard the fact that if ilx knows about Melania's secret signal, then it is not exactly a secret from the famous paedos, either.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

XPS The way I saw it explained was that McQueen was abused as a child, and depression stemming from that led to his suicide, so by Melania wearing one of his designs so soon after Maxwell getting busted is signalling something's up.

I only brought it up to show the gymnastics Q nuts are utilizing to build their narratives through codes and symbols while ignoring that the biggest hammer hangs over their boy Donnie.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Not enough red string and tacks in the world.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

There is something particularly peculiar about Boogaloo specifically, though:

Today armed Black Lives Matter and "boogaloo" protesters joined forces for an open carry rally against police violence and government overreach. I'll have HD video up ASAP, but here are some photos I snapped today.

Betcha didn't see this on cable news today. pic.twitter.com/mWXUKQkhA8

— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) July 4, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

I'll use video in addition to the livestream to try to detail what happened, but a handful of white nationalist-type activists showed up. (such as 1st and 2nd from left in this photo)

Boogaloo and BLM people chanted "white supremacy sucks" and condemned them. pic.twitter.com/y6d3fCCwH6

— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) July 4, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

The way I saw it explained was that McQueen was abused as a child,

Alexander McQueen was not abused as a child afaik?

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

I'm just relaying what they said, which was most likely bullshit, because in their eyes "Artistic Dead Person"="Abused As A Child".

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

That post is more about the paedo rings getting busted rather than Maxwell & celebrities, but that narrative is also being pushed.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

good luck usa

NEW: 'We need to live with it': White House readies new message for the nation on coronavirus https://t.co/KsVb76v1cd

— Geoff Bennett (@GeoffRBennett) July 3, 2020

scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 4 July 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

The problem is 130,000 tried and failed to live with it

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 July 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

yes a bit easier said than done

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 4 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

Is that "Claudia Conway" twitter account really the daughter??

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 4 July 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

I don’t think McQueen was abused but he was HIV+ and had likely passed it to a couple of other designers I won’t name, although one of them also died a few years ago.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 4 July 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

i don't see the relevance of that but thanks for making sure we all know that you know people who got HIV from Alexander McQueen, I was really wondering.

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

Melania is signaling that Trump is HIV positive?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 4 July 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

"Is that "Claudia Conway" twitter account really the daughter??" yes, she's been all over social media recently supporting BLM

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

Fuck off, akm.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 4 July 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

US absolutely fucking it

specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Saturday, 4 July 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

McQueen's family talk about the abuse in the doc from a couple of years ago

Number None, Saturday, 4 July 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

We must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am running for president of the United States 🇺🇸! #2020VISION

— ye (@kanyewest) July 5, 2020

"...The Aristocrats!"

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 July 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

We must stop the spread of pic.twitter.com/iy2XDqVw35

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) July 4, 2020

lol

j., Sunday, 5 July 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

From a friend:

"good golly, is kanye seriously running for president? why couldn’t he announce this nightmare fuel at a decent hour? he is literally going to guarantee trump stays in office another four years if he runs. 💀💀💀💀💀"

How's that, exactly? I couldn't imagine him getting more than 0.05% of the popular vote or any Electorals. This was a dude who wasn't popular with the Gen Public pre-MAGA.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link

dude he can't even get on the ballot

mookieproof, Sunday, 5 July 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link

Yup. I'm not even taking it seriously, but my friend's logic is baffling.

https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2020/7/4/21313625/election-2020-kanye-west-running-for-president

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link

it’s late, I’m tired, my whole neighborhood still sounds like a war zone, and I misread that as “he can’t even get to the toilet” which made we wonder what hilarious kanye news I had missed

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 5 July 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link

if anything wouldn't he siphon votes away from the dude whose base he's been pandering hard to the last few years

frogbs, Sunday, 5 July 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link

xpost it's what "All Falls Down" is about

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link

toe tally terry tizzim

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 5 July 2020 04:21 (three years ago) link

Kanye is Tommy Westphall and we are all just inanimate figures within the snowdome he cradles in his hands

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 5 July 2020 07:31 (three years ago) link

Sometimes I wonder how different our reality would be if Ye's mum hadn't died and he hadn't gone absolutely fucking batshit

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 5 July 2020 07:31 (three years ago) link

I'm happy for you, and I'ma let you finish. No ... seriously, go on!

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 09:05 (three years ago) link

was really looking fwd to Kanye-T Carlson primaries in '24

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 July 2020 12:11 (three years ago) link

Why is our feeble news media legitimizing his manic episode? He may as well have declared himself the new Burger King.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Sunday, 5 July 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

This seems like insane electoral politics

Campaign aides said they expect backlash against the progressive “cancel culture” movement to help Trump's standing w/suburban female voters frightened by images of chaos in the streets.

That backlash has yet to reveal itself in polls.https://t.co/rk0UbG0S4I w/@maggieNYT

— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) July 4, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 5 July 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

It’s ‘high on your own supply’ thinking. That’s the only frame of reference they have.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 July 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link

Donald Trump's Shrinking Electoral Map

Gone are the days of forecasting a landslide victory. The president’s team is looking not for where Trump can win more, but how he can lose less.

Donald Trump’s campaign once spoke of expanding his electoral map into blue-leaning territory like Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico and New Hampshire.

Now, winning at least a handful of those states has become a matter of survival.

States that top campaign officials had said they had the luxury of pursuing are no longer considered add-ons to the president’s electoral vote tally but backstops to keep him afloat, according to multiple people close to or involved with his reelection operation.

The most telling sign of Trump’s defensive posture is his recent mammoth TV ad buys. The campaign is spending big to retain states he won in 2016 and to shore up support in places a Republican should already dominate in, like Georgia or Florida’s Panhandle.

Publicly, the Trump campaign asserts their candidate is still competitive in each of the 30 states he carried in 2016. They say presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden faces an enthusiasm deficit among his party’s likeliest voters and that public polling — much of which has shown the president trailing far behind Biden nationally, and more narrowly in battleground states — does not jibe with their own internal numbers.

“President Trump plans on winning every state that he did in 2016, plus picking up others. We’re in a great position to be on offense and would rather be in our shoes than in Joe Biden’s,” said senior adviser Jason Miller.

But privately, campaign aides, senior administration officials and GOP donors have begun to acknowledge what they call a more plausible scenario: a pair of losses in the Rust Belt, most likely Michigan and Wisconsin. That would mean the president has to win some proven Trump-averse states to crack the 270-vote threshold needed to clinch a second term.

Gone are the days of forecasting a landslide victory, said one person close to the Trump campaign. The president’s team is now recasting its expectations to identify not where Trump can win more, but how he can lose less.

“We don’t need 306. We just need 270. We can lose Michigan and lose Pennsylvania and still win,” said a top Trump adviser, noting that a win in New Hampshire, combined with one in Nevada or New Mexico, would provide enough Electoral College support to prevent defeat even if Biden wins big in the industrial Midwest.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 5 July 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Trump is going to try to speed up global warming so that states will be submerged and removed from the voting process

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

I'll say this, if he does end up winning somehow, he's going to be so insufferable about it it'll make his first term crowing seem downright modest in comparison.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 July 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

Trump is going to try to speed up global warming so that states will be submerged and removed from the voting process

He's from New York City and he lives in Florida.

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

he'd be dumb enough to sink his own states

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

How is "The wall" getting on, btw?

Mark G, Sunday, 5 July 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

keeping out the virus iirc

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

A privately funded part of it is falling down.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/02/texas-border-wall-private/

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 July 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

How is "The wall" getting on, btw?

I saw that some Mexican leaders are calling for stricter enforcement of its borders to prevent sick Americans from spilling in, so maybe they'll pay for it after all.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 July 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

this is behind a firewall, so don't click this if you're afraid of using one of your precious 5 free articles for the month on content you do not feel to be "5 free articles" worthy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/hundreds-of-armed-men-went-to-gettysburg-to-defend-it-from-a-phantom-antifa-flag-burner-created-on-social-media/2020/07/04/206ee4da-bb05-11ea-86d5-3b9b3863273b_story.html

it's really quite a story, though. some small-time trolly facebook page put up a bogus "flag burning" "antifa" event in gettysburg for july 4, with a stock photo of some guy from germany as the event leader, and rightwing facebook trolls overreacted and hundreds of racist nationalists showed up to counter-protest it. finding nothing, they instead surrounded a guy wearing a black lives matters shirt. there's no physical violence in the video (plenty of verbal abuse), but it's terrifying. and of course, a cop shows up and protects the old racist white men and asks the (very calm, lone) protester to "de-escalate" and leave the park

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 July 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

most of the story focuses on the online aspect - who posted the bogus event, and who are the very real racist blowhards who organized the counterprotest. fascinating, very dystopian stuff.

good morning!

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 July 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

Almost posted this email in the outbreak! thread:

Bob,

Have you stopped checking your email?

You’ve been invited to join my father at the 2020 Convention Celebration in Florida, but our records show that you’ve IGNORED all of our emails.

The truth is, we’re ONLY offering this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to the President’s MOST LOYAL supporters, like YOU*, and I know he’ll be really disappointed if you don’t enter to win. We can only accept 100 more entries today - make sure yours is one of them.

Please contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to enter to win a FREE trip to the 2020 Convention Celebration in Florida. >>

My father really wants this opportunity to go to one of his TOP supporters, and we can’t think of anyone more deserving than Bob from New Jersey.

If you win, we’ll cover your flight and hotel, you’ll get VIP PASSES, and you’ll get to bring a guest of your choice.

We’re giving the President an updated list of entries soon. I hope he sees your name.

Please contribute ANY AMOUNT by 11:59 PM TONIGHT to win a trip to the 2020 Convention Celebration and to get on the list my father sees.

Thank you,

Donald Trump Jr.

*If I've ignored all your emails, and I've never donated any money to you fuckasses, am I really one of your MOST LOYAL supporters? That's kinda sad...

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 5 July 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

There's an amazing graphic of Trump displaying what he thinks is a smile, at a podium in front of a jam-packed crowd with no masks on at all (it's clearly from the 2016 campaign), and an arrow pointing to the middle of the frontmost section saying "You Could Be Here." Uh...no fuckin' thanks.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 5 July 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

Get with the program, Bob.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 July 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

the fake antifa flag-burning-party posters are pretty funny

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Sunday, 5 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

We can only accept 100 more entries today

this is the good stuff right here

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 5 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

I was camping in the Michaux this weekend-- very close to Gettysburg-- and there was a neckbearded dude selling rebel flags and Trump shot by the side of the highway, a few stickers on cars in the populated parking areas, and one very young man driving a pickup truck with a US flag, rebel flag, and Trump flag that also had blue lives matter stickers and gun rights shit all over the windows.

That said, the Walmart in Chambersburg had many black and white people wearing BLM shirts.

Drove through Gettysburg this morning and it looked about the same as I remember it from my last visit nearly thirty years ago.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

Trump shot by the side of the highway

Cannot tell you what a serotonin spike this typo just gave me.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

Trump shit....sorry.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

Trump shot = Diet Coke, pureed hamberder (well done, of course), dash of lib years

Serve lukewarm

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

*lib tears

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

Garnish with covfefe

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

Trump shot by the side of the highway

...a place where nobody knows

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Lol. Truly was an autocorrect.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

but let's just linger there for a second

ahhhhhh....yes this is what we have all been needing

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

yes...he's dead....it's a sunday....the spontaneous worldwide celebrations are starting...

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

"we shouldn't celebrate someone's death", they are saying, but the sound becomes more quiet as i keep logrolling down the lightly declining grassy hill, logrolling so smooth and free

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

I admit I fantasized about throwing an incendiary device at neckbeard's Trump shop.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

U2 then showed up to do a free concert and played the most obvious song to commemorate it....

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

that's right, "Discotheque"

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

UNO DOS TRES CATORCE!

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 July 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

I was camping in the Michaux this weekend-- very close to Gettysburg-- and there was a neckbearded dude selling rebel flags and Trump shot by the side of the highway, a few stickers on cars in the populated parking areas, and one very young man driving a pickup truck with a US flag, rebel flag, and Trump flag that also had blue lives matter stickers and gun rights shit all over the windows.

That said, the Walmart in Chambersburg had many black and white people wearing BLM shirts.

Drove through Gettysburg this morning and it looked about the same as I remember it from my last visit nearly thirty years ago.


I’ve seen more rebel flags in rural Pennsylvania than I ever have in rural Maryland. Truly baffling.

Boring, Maryland, Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

U2 then showed up to do a free concert and played the most obvious song to commemorate it....

I can't believe the news today...

I’ve seen more rebel flags in rural Pennsylvania than I ever have in rural Maryland. Truly baffling.

Historically speaking, Maryland's confederate sympathizers were concentrated in Baltimore; rural Western Md. had independent farmers who resented the south's free labor. It was a CSA miscalculation that Marylanders would welcome them as liberators.

West Virginia is a weirder case - it was quite literally formed due to anti-Confederate sentiment.

And yet in my 1970s/80s childhood, that fucking battle flag was on every third towel for sale in roadside emporia, and on half the truck bumpers. If asked, its fans said it was about resisting Federal power, and government in general, but there is really no mystery to the appeal.

Proof (as if it were needed) that the 20th century usage of that flag was always WAY more about 1965 than 1865.

I cannot speak with authority about Pennsylvania. But there is an old saying about Pittsburgh at one end, Philadelphia at the other, and Kentucky in between.

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

I've often wondered if he suddenly died would there be celebratory parades and marches.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

Yes

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

and lots of cum

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

honestly, when he dies i cannot imagine doing anything other than screaming YES!! cracking a beer and heading out to the porch to see who else heard the news

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

if that somehow translates into a spontaneous worldwide celebration, what can you do.

i think the chances of this scenario happening get pretty low after he's been out of office for a bit, though. but if he died any time between now and january 2021, maybe even may 2021? you may just see some

https://i.imgur.com/4c0Q6GF.png

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

people doing things they may later regret out there, but also a lot of JOY and happiness and maybe a bit of hope as well

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link

man, y'all have been here all day!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

We had a pretty well-attended party the day that Thatcher died, and that was in Oakland.

I predict lots of parties no matter when it happens

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

I was out for two hours! just driving, naturally.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

it seems a bit gauche to celebrate a death publicly, but I'd probably risk the roni to get in on some street parties if this happened.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

He's the horrifying spider who currently sits at the center of the web of wrong, bad and evil. The bigger problem is all the people who love this man. And who love people like Bolsonaro, Modi, Duterte, and Netanyahu. There will be another Trump after Trump, but at the least we must keep them out of the White House.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

"If asked, its fans said it was about resisting Federal power"

someone explain to me why the federal government is so bad but apparently the state government is fine with these people?

akm, Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link

or why 'feds' are bad but the military is great?

akm, Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link

or why the fBI is evil but all cops lives matter or some shit?

akm, Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

tell me over and and over and over again my friend

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

You don't believe that you're in a honky death cult?

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

if you ask the libertarians they'll say some shit about the state government being closer to you, more accountable to the people. of course those guys are sort of quaint now

j., Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

Just get me an ARP 2600 and I’ll be set 😜

— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) July 6, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 6 July 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link

those people know cops and veterans and nurses and teachers, they’re their kids and neighbors and people they went to high school with

they don’t know any FBI agents or federal employees or doctors or professors in real life and anyone they went to high school with who might work in these careers moved away a long time ago

joygoat, Monday, 6 July 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

^^^

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 6 July 2020 03:49 (three years ago) link

That sounds kind of weird to me. You don't know elitist libertarians? I sure have...

Nhex, Monday, 6 July 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link

Self-described libertarians are more likely to not like the cops or military much either.

Not pretending otherwise conservatives like cops because they harass and kill the people the conservatives don't like, they also generally hate local and state government when it's not actively enforcing their worldview. Damn zoning rules keeping me down! I have to get a PERMIT to build my backyard GUN RANGE in this suburban cul-de-sac? TYRANNY.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 6 July 2020 06:44 (three years ago) link

The divisions on the right only come out when you have a vote on like funding a new baseball stadium or something - the pro-business conservatives are on board because they love welfare for the rich, the deep reactionaries are opposed because taxes are inherently evil, the libertarians split the difference depending on what the taxes are.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 6 July 2020 06:46 (three years ago) link

he's really running on statues and sports team names huh?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

lol yes this is a winning platform

@realDonaldTrump
They name teams out of STRENGTH, not weakness, but now the Washington Redskins & Cleveland Indians, two fabled sports franchises, look like they are going to be changing their names in order to be politically correct. Indians, like Elizabeth Warren, must be very angry right now!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

and the nascar stuff

feels like suicide-by-election right now but what do i know

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

he's really running on statues and sports team namesjust racism huh?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

He's kind of obsessed with Warren, huh?

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

xp well he's running on culture wars aspects of racism, which are really only of interest to a fraction of our nation's racists.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

He just sees attacks on Warren as bolstering his popularity with his fan base. He never neglects to feed them sure-fire applause lines each and every day. No matter how hackneyed and overdone they are, he'll fall back on them because his audience expects them and delights in them neverendingly.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

if 'ownage' firefight means Dem veep will be Warren instead of Susan Rice...

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

xp i think trump is running on all-of-the-above racism, not just culture wars. although he is definitely majoring in culture wars

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

Watch him defend amy Cooper next

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

McCloskey photo op in 3... 2... 1...

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 6 July 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

Fucking garbage administration on every single level

International students who are pursuing degrees in the United States will have to leave the country or risk deportation if their universities switch to online-only courses, Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced https://t.co/VYeFd6KR1O

— CNN (@CNN) July 6, 2020

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 July 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

here is the first NSA of the trump administration taking the Q oath, "where we go one, we go all"

Travis View, host of the QAnon Anonymous podcast, said Sunday that Flynn’s “oath” the previous night was “part of a years long pattern of signaling to the QAnon community.” Two years ago, View noted, Flynn was inscribing books with the “Where We Go 1 We Go All” slogan.

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

#TakeTheOath 🇺🇸
Happy 4th of July 🇺🇸
God Bless America 🇺🇸
@SidneyPowell1
@molmccann
@BarbaraRedgate
@JosephJFlynn1
@GoJackFlynn
@flynn_neill
@lofly727
@TJHproject
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/Z2LCsgHLkw

— General Flynn (@GenFlynn) July 5, 2020

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

Honestly, I could not care less about what Flynn is doing with his time right now. Let him go full wackjob. I'd rather worry about how this administration is working overtime to even kick out the immigrants doing things "the right way".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

...i don't think i will capable of explaining even partly wtf happened to this country in the past few years

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

i can't face reading it, but i see this suggested as good background https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/qanon-nothing-can-stop-what-is-coming/610567/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link

International students who are pursuing degrees in the United States will have to leave the country or risk deportation if their universities switch to online-only courses, Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced

This is insane. Surely this is a feint of some kind. Classes start in two months, they’ve already been paid for.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link

I absolutely agree that it is insane. But I'm also going to venture that no one in this administration or at ICE gives one flying fig about how much a student may have paid for their classes.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

it seems likely to have the predictable but unintended consequence that schools will not go online-only to accommodate students who would otherwise have to leave the US, thus ensuring a third wave of covid in the fall.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

This is insane. It places foreign students who are essentially helpless in a middle of huge argument over online vs in-person teaching. No university will be able to go fully online (which is arguably the medically responsible thing to do) if it shafts their students like this. https://t.co/n8h1J1BA3J

— Suresh Venkatasubramanian (@geomblog) July 6, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

xps

this is probably way off and it also sounds like a conservative warning from the mid-90s, but i wonder how much of the rise of the Q bullshit is related to the demise of the centrality of religion to people's lives? some of this stuff just seems like people desperate for evidence of a higher power or force that guides things.

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

miller: you have to leave if your school is online only
schools: ok let's do some classes IRL
miller: no that's not what i meant
CDC: fuuuuuuck

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

Just came here to post that.

rb (soda), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

it seems likely to have the predictable but unintended consequence that schools will not go online-only to accommodate students who would otherwise have to leave the US, thus ensuring a third wave of covid in the fall.

that was my first thought. it seems like an inevitable trump admin policy because it supports covid denial and nationalism at the same time

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

which title ranks higher, Senator or Coach?

asking for tommy tuberville

mookieproof, Monday, 6 July 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

ranked

head coach
senior senator
defensive coordinator
junior senator

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 July 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

special teams is where you win elections, fyi

brownie, Monday, 6 July 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

So far, the monetization of QAnon has been done by amateurs and small time grifters. I'm guessing Flynn just sees a fallow field and wants to grow his cash income.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 6 July 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

The order concerning foreign students in the USA revolts me but does not surprise me. I have been advising students to avoid going to the USA for some time. This may get the message through. It is not a safe place.

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 6 July 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

Kushner's family got a freaking PPP loan. Kushner's. Family. https://t.co/G8U7aDFnwt

— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) July 6, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 July 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link

xp that's the thing they're trying to communicate. i don't think they care about whether campuses reopen this year, or whether these specific students go home. they are trying to diminish campuses as 1) a place where "liberals" are created 2) a route through which people enter the US. anything that creates uncertainty this year is good for _years_ of uncertainty.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

this is the least important thing right now but how are you supposed to use your school's libraries, archives, laboratories, whatever else a grad student needs if you are in your home country? it's like these people don't know what school is.

contorted filbert (harbl), Monday, 6 July 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

Joe Biden Does Nothing As Violent Crime in Democrat-Run Cities Soars https://t.co/57aBjnvTlV

— Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) July 6, 2020



This should sew up the “don’t know who the current president” demographic.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

Not just grad students!

57% of the usa’s 1 million foreign students are from China, India, and South Korea. Universities are counting on that money, especially public universities.

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

it seems likely to have the predictable but unintended consequence that schools will not go online-only to accommodate students who would otherwise have to leave the US, thus ensuring a third wave of covid in the fall.

Still going to be in the midst of the first wave for most of the country, so it's fine.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link

god I wish Joe Biden was almost anybody else rn

obv he can't "do anything" but even just some performative mock-leadership would be gr8

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

I dunno feels like Biden's been president for months now

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

waht

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

nah. just the Dem nominee. I've seen too many dem nominees come and go to equate it with being as good as elected.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link

I know trump is beating himself right now and the numbers are good but this is like rope-a-dope for a full 14 rounds

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link

when your opponent is furiously digging himself a hole, you don't interrupt

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

it's so low risk though. I've wondered for a while what % of his support has to do w/ supporters' perception that he is always "winning." I suspect that margin is exploitable by just pointing out what a loser he is.

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

put the stink of loss on him

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 6 July 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

HRC tried as hard as she could to publicize Trump's business frauds and failures. It made no difference. By now everyone on earth has seen enough of him and they know just where they stand, pro or con; nothing Biden does or says will alter that. Even Biden knows he is basically a bystander in this election.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link

I hear you but he wasn't yet responsible for tens of thousands of deaths

whoever's minding Biden needs to get him some Omega 3's and caffeine and just trot him out there on his porch to call Trump a negligent idiot twice a week, it's not that hard

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link

His campaign tweets out that he's a negligent idiot every day. If he trotted onto his porch and said it twice a week, the media would soon get bored and wander off. He doesn't put on the kind of non-stop dog and pony show they're used to from Trump. Pulling any sort of attention to herself was a primary problem for HRC in 2016.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link

whoever's minding Biden needs to get him some Omega 3's and caffeine and just trot him out there on his porch to call Trump a negligent idiot twice a week, it's not that hard

It's already happening; you're just not paying attention.

WILMINGTON, Del. — Former vice president Joe Biden on Tuesday seized a moment when the coronavirus is resurging to stress how poorly he says President Trump has handled the pandemic and to promise that as president he would take a different path.

“It didn’t have to be this way,” Biden said at Alexis I. duPont High School. He did not wear a mask during his speech, but he held one in his left hand for much of the address. “Month after month, as other leaders and other countries took the necessary steps to get the virus under control, Donald Trump failed us.”

Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, cited Trump’s declaration earlier in the outbreak that he was a “wartime president,” saying, “It seems like our wartime president surrendered, waved the white flag and left the battlefield.”

The campaign event, for which Biden left the house where he has largely been staying home, highlighted the starkly different messages the candidates are sending on the pandemic. Trump has portrayed his handling of the virus as a success, refused to wear a face mask even as other GOP officials are increasingly doing so, and often sought to direct the conversation elsewhere. Biden, in contrast, frames Trump’s approach to the coronavirus as a historic failure that illustrates his shortcomings.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link

it's so low risk though.


You are aware the nominee is joe biden, right?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

The campaign event, for which Biden left the house where he has largely been staying home

this is a good development

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

ha caek yes and that's a fair point

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

Not just grad students!

57% of the usa’s 1 million foreign students are from China, India, and South Korea. Universities are counting on that money, especially public universities.

― Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, July 6, 2020 7:21 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago)

oh i know, it's insane all around

contorted filbert (harbl), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 00:22 (three years ago) link

Presumably more of Stephen Miller's scorched earth tactics on immigration.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

unifying message that all americans can stand behind:

"Americans are the people who pursued our Manifest Destiny across the ocean, into the uncharted wilderness, over the tallest mountains, and then into the skies and even into the stars." pic.twitter.com/AYCgAC5oN0

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) July 7, 2020

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

americans: the european colonists

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link

these fuckers are desperate

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 04:25 (three years ago) link

i like how four of these would totally make sense to someone from 2019 but one of these is ... what?

An ill-fated impeachment victory lap.

A long flight home from India.

A call to inject bleach.

A retreat to the White House bunker.

A rally overshadowed by the virus.

Our new story: five moments in five months that damaged Trump’s presidency https://t.co/rRbtHUkj9A

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) July 7, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link

i think the fact that they feel the need to work THIS hard to continually secure the votes of racists is probably a bad sign for them. i get that they're going for the racist old white vote, but they already got that one wrapped up! so fucking weird and awful

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link

it's difficult to imagine any of the plausible VP picks won't be the subject of vile race-baiting

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 04:32 (three years ago) link

I should hope the Biden campaign is counting on it. The greater the tantrum they can extrude from Trump’s 4chan gremlins, the better. It fires people up like nothing else.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

curious to know what the effect of Trump getting COVID-19 is going to be, no way he can avoid it the way he's traipsing all over the land

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 04:54 (three years ago) link

maybe it will make him super cool and relatable

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link

I am surprised you’re so naive about that possibility. Boris caught it, lived, and it’s basically as it always was. The only difference it could possibly make in Trump’s case is if he didn’t get so lucky.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

god that would be sweet

j., Tuesday, 7 July 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

Well Boris is 56, Trump's 74 and both overweight and out of shape. But really I was thinking more of how Trump getting ill would affect the election, whether it killed him or not.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 05:45 (three years ago) link

also i think the general consensus is boris is significantly off his game since he got it. it's as it always was because the executive branch of the UK government is a more competent.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 06:17 (three years ago) link

*bit

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link

probably not the last of these:

Chuck Grassley, who at 86 is the Senate's oldest Republican, says he will skip the Republican National Convention because of coronavirus concernshttps://t.co/1L36xyReZu

— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) July 6, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link

*bit


At what?

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 06:24 (three years ago) link

The Trump Destiny tweet looks like a teaser for a new HBO show

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 06:48 (three years ago) link

they look like Laurel & Hardy in that "from behind" photo

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link

Trump's Job Approval Rating Steady at Lower Level

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- President Donald Trump's approval rating is holding steady at a lower level after a sharp drop in late May and early June, with 38% of Americans currently approving of the job he is doing.

In early May, Trump's approval tied his personal best at 49% -- before it sank amid nationwide protests over racial injustice after the death of George Floyd. Now his approval rating stands just three percentage points above his personal low of 35%, registered on four separate occasions in 2017.

The latest results are based on a June 8-30 Gallup poll. While Trump's overall job approval rating is essentially unchanged from the prior May 28-June 4 poll, it does show some improvement among Republicans, from 85% to 91%. However, the current poll also indicates the president's approval rating has dropped among independents, from 39% to 33%, as well as among Democrats, from 5% to 2%.

The current 89-point difference between Republicans' and Democrats' ratings of Trump is the largest partisan gap Gallup has ever measured for a presidential approval rating in a single survey. Trump had previously registered 87-point gaps in late January and early February polls, conducted around the time of his Senate impeachment trial and ultimate acquittal.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:05 (three years ago) link

If Trump gets the 'rona then forget it, he will fall apart even faster and further than Boris, both of them are spineless blancmanges with no character, but Trump is an even bigger blancmange and is 71 into the bargain.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:23 (three years ago) link

He's 74 but some say younger.

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link

He's only 71
But his mind is older

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

I have no idea what blancmange means but I like it

tobo73, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

I actually don't think Biden should make more public appearances. I think that this incredible set of events is pretty much the perfect scenario for Biden who is a terrible candidate and bad at running for president as has been proven.

his biggest strength is being vaguely positively remembered as Obama's buddy and not being Donald Trump.

the less he speaks the better. I never believed that Biden could win, but Coronavirus might have made it possible.

this election is just going to be a referendum in Donald Trump.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

Pinkmange.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk6d4TgO2NY

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

I actually don't think Biden should make more public appearances. I think that this incredible set of events is pretty much the perfect scenario for Biden who is a terrible candidate and bad at running for president as has been proven.


Even when he eventually does have to get out, we should avoid the handsy stuff.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

They’re all staying home

“Senator Alexander is an honorary chair of the Tennessee Trump campaign, but he will not be attending the convention because he believes the delegate spots should be reserved for those who have not had that privilege before as he has had,” his office says.

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) July 7, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

Pre-emptively trying to avoid that ever-growing cloud of loser stink, I see.

No matter how much you abstain and sidestep and demur and say 'Donald who, now?', we will not ever forget or let you forget what you helped propped up, you gaggle of scumfucks.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link

lol. "No, it's okay, I've been before, why don't you take my ticket. What's that? Virus? I don't know anything about a virus, I just think somebody else should have a turn."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

Xp To be fair I think in Alexander and Grassley’s case it’s more “I’m in my 80s and I don’t want to die”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

I'm sure that's part of it. It'll be intersting to see how creative the confabulation gets with the other GOP-ers who try to avoid going down with (god willing) a sinking ship.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

"I would love to go, but unfortunately that's the same time as my nephew's Zoom taekwondo belt test. Next time!"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

"Sorry I can't make it, we have tickets to Hamilton on Disney+."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link

"I wish I could attend, but it's been a really stressful time, as we're in the process of adopting a teenage boy from Cuba, and kid proofing the house has been a real chore."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link

Does Keisha Lance Bottoms' contracting COVID raise or lower her prospects of getting the VP nod (assuming, obviously, that she survives, which it appears she will)?

akm, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

curious to know what the effect of Trump getting COVID-19 is going to be, no way he can avoid it the way he's traipsing all over the land

― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), 

He'd become isolated.

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

xp i keep forgetting she's even a contender

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

have no idea what blancmange means but I like it

― tobo73, Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM (three hours ago)

A blancmange is an alien from the planet Skyron in the Andromeda galaxy iirc

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

a blancmange is the wine you end up accidentally ordering at the restaurant when you can't properly pronounce any of the choices

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW_m8lhZbQQ

dan selzer, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

one time a friend of mine gave me a big bottle of homebrew beer from his fresh batch. as soon as i popped the lid it exploded all over my bedroom and covered the ceilings in blancmange

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

it's when a white dog's hair starts coming off

closed beta (NotEnough), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

blank marge

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

Republican voters are a little calcified, but Independent voters (who are often Republican leaning) lose an average of 15 points in their approval rating of Trump, once they join the group of ‘people who know an infected person’.

So as infection numbers rise, Trump’s support ⤵️ pic.twitter.com/XOCDGND2UX

— DavChat (@DavKat43) July 7, 2020

1994 network sitcom advertisement voice

"from the same independent patriots who brought you 'now that we just found out our daughter is a lesbian, we tepidly support gay rights', a new generation of fucking ignorant blowhards learns that another new thing is real because it happened to someone they know in real life"

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

look I’ll wait til after the election but can

Independent voters (who are often Republican leaning) lose an average of 15 points in their approval rating of Trump, once they join the group of ‘people who know an infected person’.

please please all die in a fire thx

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

By my calc, in the past four years of Census data, non-college whites - Trump's base - have declined from 47.0% to 44.5% (-2.5%) of the nation's voting age citizens, including:

AZ: 44.9% to 42.0% (-2.9%)
FL: 45.1% to 41.9% (-3.2%)
TX: 35.1% to 32.3% (-2.7%)

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) July 7, 2020

this is the reason "mainstream" republicans are willing to look the other way while nativists dismantle higher education in the US: anything that reduces the solvency of institutions that create college graduates (i.e. democrats) is good on its face.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

Keeping the populace dumb and passive as a method of social control and exploitation? You don't say!

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

we're in the second act of EVITA

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

it's got a happy ending tho right?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link

demagogue dies in disgrace and statue is never finished, I'd say so

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

If oldsters and tRoOPS and other potential R-leaning absentee voters end up not voting because Trump told them not to trust mail voting, that will be a kind of amusing own-goal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-attacks-on-mail-voting-are-turning-republicans-off-absentee-ballots/2020/07/07/640b6126-bbd4-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html

(As has been pointed out a zillion times, Trump himself votes by mail, but let's not lose focus.)

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 11:36 (three years ago) link

This angle has been getting a lot of heat the last couple days, but it seems wildly farfetched. I'd just assume they're going to vote one way or another.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

GOP olds and troops will def vote because their embittered hatefulness will trump their hatred of lib methodologies (that they pland to eliminate when they get the right judges and state legislatures.) indy embittereds, i dunno i guess.

y'know who else is a cop? your mom. (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

Seems like wishful thinking by the WP

Nhex, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

They mention people setting fire to their postal ballots. It might not be a big deal if biden really is up 10% but it’s not nothing.

You want to see wishful thinking?

THOUSANDS gathered in South Carolina for a boat parade in support of President Trump this weekend.

Americans traveled from 11 different states in what may have been the largest boat parade EVER!

There has NEVER been a boat parade for Joe Biden! pic.twitter.com/mnE30rZI7C

— Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) July 7, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

conservatives like, “employer-sponsored healthcare is such a good solution,” and then degrade the quality of healthcare employers provide until the only option we have is to get rid of employer-provided healthcare. Seems like a longterm oversight.

Fuck religious exemptions for birth control.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

wow I've never had a boat parade either, I think that makes me a giant loser

akm, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

you’re pathetic.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

Scooter / Segway / Vespa parades do not count, I'm assuming

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

I heard Biden's down 26 points with our beautiful boaters

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

Fuck your stupid boat parade, stupid fucking boating fucks.

Joe Biden should hold a parade of slow-moving train-cars, and call it a 'train parade' or just, you know, a 'train.' I hear Amtrak's available.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

OK, Reagan was obviously a POS, but this video by Republican Voters Against Trump is pretty well done, imho:

https://youtu.be/ObqBtoz_fRA

Darin, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

Ha my parents live on that lake

Heez, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

trump campaign 2020

*incredibly loud barge noises*

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

honkin' on boat boat

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022
@TrumpWarRoom
THOUSANDS gathered in South Carolina for a human centipede in support of President Trump this weekend.

Americans traveled from 11 different states in what may have been the largest human centipede EVER!

There has NEVER been a human centipede for Joe Biden!

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

HUMAN CENTIPEDES 4 TRUMP!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

Trump's lips are the sewn-on remains of his father's butthole.

oder doch?, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

good morni-

wait a second wtf

*calls the po-*

wait i can't

fuuuuuuu

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

William Carlos Williams quote?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

My mom lives on a relatively small lake and said there's one guy with a boat that has been puttering around the lake all summer with two gigantic Trump 2020 flags on it.

Boat guys and Trump guys seem to overlap quite a bit.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

They're just struggling forgotten working-class Joes who happen to own a boat (and have the resources to store, transport, fuel, and maintain said boat, plus copious leisure time in which to use said boat).

You know, salt o' the earth REAL Americans. Not like those elite latte/arugula libs.

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/29/03/12838228-6970041-Biden_is_seen_above_in_March_2019-a-42_1556503859601.jpg
Fuck, how am I supposed to compete with that epic boat parade?

Evan, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

HUMAN CENTIPEDES 4 TRUMP!

Trump supporters used to call themselves centipedes, don't think they do anymore though

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

They're just struggling forgotten working-class Joes who happen to own a boat (and have the resources to store, transport, fuel, and maintain said boat, plus copious leisure time in which to use said boat).

You know, salt o' the earth REAL Americans. Not like those elite latte/arugula libs.

Exactly this. Not those nose in the air libs working five freelance consulting gigs between grocery delivery runs for an app to try and make rent. Those cushy losers have had free reign over this country for far too long!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

Dominoes within the GOP keep falling as more senators are reportedly choosing to forgo the Republican National Convention set to take place in Jacksonville, Florida next month.

According to the Washington Post, Sens. Susan Collins (R-ME), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Mitt Romney (R-UT) have now joined Sens. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) and Chuck Grassley (R-IA) in opting out of their party’s convention as coronavirus cases continue surging across the country.

An aide for Collins told the Post that she will not travel to Jacksonville for the RNC next month, but denied that this is a change in plans due to how the Maine senator has never attended national conventions during years when she will appear on the ballot. Collins is up for re-election in November.

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

funniest one yet

The Texas GOP is moving forward with its in-person convention in Houston next week with one adjustment: Texas Republican leaders, including Gov. Greg Abbott, will give their speeches virtually.https://t.co/8KV45QHD7A

— Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) July 7, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

everyone who voted to acquit should be forced to attend

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

everyone who attends virtually should be forced to display (CUCK) next to their name imo

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

Mayor Turner is trying to get the Texas GOP convention cancelled today.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

JUST IN: Trump campaign considers displaying statues at future rallies.

The idea has been discussed by White House and Trump campaign aides, but no final decision has been made, sources familiar with the planning told @ABC News. https://t.co/XpZDJxfqW9

— ABC News (@ABC) July 8, 2020

what's happened is:

trump has decided he will run on his instincts because that worked last time and he doesn't know what survivorship bias is

he doesn't care about covid/healthcare/the economy (except the stock market)

he has very strong instincts about an issue that like 80% of the population do not give a shit about

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

lol didn't they make a huge fuss over the columns at the dem convention or something ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

those weren't Historical enough

j., Wednesday, 8 July 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

At what point is the GOP going to kick into survival mode, or are they going to ride this thing straight into oblivion?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

Trump DOES let a statue tell him how nice he is

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

this is what you do when you have nothing to offer

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

an all statue convention

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/An2A2QvraDg/maxresdefault.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

A horde of statues to fill in all those empty seats. Canny!

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

Terracotta MAGAts

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

"No, you're the statue!"

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

i want close-ups of the statues at the next rally during the "i'll gladly stand up" section when they're playing our new national anthem by lee greenwood

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

god, i would do anything for those pics.

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

not sure this is still the case, but 20+ years ago the closing number to the Stone Mountain laser show was a tribute to America/Confederacy set to Greenwood’s tune.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

not sure this is still the case, but 20+ years ago the closing number to the Stone Mountain laser show was a tribute to America/Confederacy set to Greenwood’s tune.

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, July 8, 2020 3:21 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

nah man it's Elvis' "An American Trilogy"!

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

That's getting pretty close to the King of All Cosmos from Katamari Demacy.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link

Mayor Turner is trying to get the Texas GOP convention cancelled today.

...and success! Venue contract cancelled this afternoon.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

xp How dare you besmirch his name!

Nhex, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

He’s a jerk, fuck him

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

Whoever wrote that this campaign is some elaborate rope-a-dope ... I'll take it.

Learn. Their. Names. pic.twitter.com/lYzH8LIj6d

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) July 8, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

Someone just sent me this old post, I don't even remember writing it but apparently this is the @ProjectLincoln guy https://t.co/PmzFye2Twg

— Brendan james (@deep_beige) July 8, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

lol this was the main "Lincoln Project" guy only 2 years ago https://t.co/NOqWLIk1BM

— The Discourse Lover (@Trillburne) July 8, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

warning, hopeful op-ed alert. do not read if you don't want to jinx things:


...Elections in both the House and Senate are increasingly syncing with broader presidential races. In 2016, every Senate race was won by the same party that won that state in the presidential contest. In 2018, House races largely correlated with Trump’s approval rating, with even the most popular GOP incumbents unable to run more than a few points ahead of the president. Polls for Senate races this year show the same trend, with Republican incumbents’ totals closely matched with Trump’s.

This spells disaster for the party. Public polls show incumbent Senate Republicans trailing in five states: Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, Maine and North Carolina. One recent poll from Georgia shows Sen. David Perdue leading his Democratic opponent, Jon Ossoff, 45 percent to 42 percent, but that same poll also shows Trump trailing presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden in the state by two percentage points, 47 percent to 45 percent. The clear implication is that Georgia is also in play if Trump’s ratings stay down, which would spell disaster for Republicans since the second Senate seat in Georgia, held by appointed Sen. Kelly Loeffler, is also on the November ballot. That’s seven GOP-held Senate seats at a high risk of switching parties, with only the Democratic-held seat in Alabama that is seen as a likely Republican pickup to offset those losses.

It could get even worse. A University of Montana poll conducted last month shows Democratic challenger Steve Bullock ahead of Republican incumbent Steve Daines 47 percent to 43 percent, even as Trump is winning the state with 52 percent support. Before you dismiss this as a fluke, recall that Bullock is a two-term governor, which demonstrates his ability to win normally Republican votes. Montana Democratic Sen. Jon Tester also won reelection in 2018 even though exit polls showed Trump had a 51 percent job approval rating. Outside groups have already reserved more than $30 million in television time there, as both parties expect the race to be tight.

[also some stuff about even KS and AK being in play, because kris kobach is a fucking asshole and AK is cold]

...Republicans also look set to lose House seats if trends don’t improve. Throughout 2020, Democrats have led the national generic ballot, which asks respondents whose party’s House candidate they would support. They currently lead by a massive 11-point margin, nearly three points more than they won the national popular vote in 2018. Republicans will automatically lose two seats because of a court-ordered redistricting in North Carolina and won at least 10 seats in 2018 by three points or less. Losing this November by 10 points or more would almost guarantee further GOP House losses, entrenching Democratic rule in the House even further.

A Republican wipeout would likely extend deep into state legislatures, too. Republicans gained 680 state legislative seats in their 2010 wave victory, while Democrats picked up 309 state legislative seats in 2018. Another Democratic landslide could hand them control of a number of key legislative chambers, the most important being the Texas State House. Republicans in Austin hold an 83-to-67 advantage, but they lost 12 seats in 2018, and Democratic Senate candidate Beto O’Rourke won nine districts currently represented by Republicans. If Democrats were to win control, it would eliminate Republican control over redistricting in a state that is expected to send 39 members to the House after the post-census reapportionment.

[also some stuff about how this opinion could be wrong]

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link

the ultimate jinx is thinking about how this election will affect redistricting efforts for the next decade. maybe democrats should *knock on wood* use the upcoming window of peace love and prosperity to finally do gerrymandering and election reform while they still have an opportunity

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link

I'm more worried about what country will be left after the election.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link

if any country contains COVID and re-opens its borders, I might have to flee. though I'll still vote absentee

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

He’s not going to lose but this is why it’s important to run good candidates everywhere

Republican outside groups linked to McConnell are now on the hook to spend a very casual $15 MILLION on his reelection in #KYSEN https://t.co/SwQgUqchFU

— Lauren Passalacqua (@laurenvpass) July 8, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

Is McGrath still running to his right

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

Doesn’t matter

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

probably not it's just funny

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

I know there's a lot of July left but is there really gonna be a better August thread title than "Everybody's Been Woked"?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 July 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link

not proud to say it, but there should be a separate thread for 'next month's title'

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 July 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/NV2aSH7.jpg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 July 2020 08:32 (three years ago) link

Supreme Court says Trump must provide his financial records to a NY grand jury. Decision was 7-2.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

!!!

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

There's the tax returns.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

still won't see them for years

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

I know there's a lot of July left but is there really gonna be a better August thread title than "Everybody's Been Woked"?

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, July 8, 2020 11:51 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

ah, how soon we forget "There Has NEVER Been a Boat Parade for Joe Biden!!"

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

They're just struggling forgotten working-class Joes who happen to own a boat (and have the resources to store, transport, fuel, and maintain said boat, plus copious leisure time in which to use said boat).

You know, salt o' the earth REAL Americans. Not like those elite latte/arugula libs.

― zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, July 8, 2020 3:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Not speaking on whoever was in that SC parade, but when you live on or near lakes, having a boat, even a beat up old metal fishing boat w an outboard, is pretty normal. If you have a truck and a few gallons of diesel, you have "the resources."

It has definitely been interesting to follow all the pandemic regs that address **boating** so specifically? Like the risk level of activities including "pontoon boating" which is just INCREDIBLY specific lol. I mean in theory going to the dock or the public boat launch, as long as you only go with ppl in your bubble, should be low-to-no risk. But if ppl want to like, have their friends over, unmasked, on the PONTOON BOAT then you're at frat party levels of danger basically.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

"Pontoon pontoon pontoon pontoon (pontoon)
I see one look like me
I see one look like you"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

This might be a Great Lakes thing bc we have so much access, but...water activities are a great equalizer imo? The bar for taking part in fishing, boating, swimming, & other fun stuff is pretty low ALTHOUGH ADMITTEDLY I don't have a good racial diversity lens on this problem because...this is not a very diverse place. (Full disclosure I am 2 miles from a Great Lake right now.)

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

even a beat up old metal fishing boat w an outboard
yeah i didn't see any of these in those videos.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

base level Alumacraft fishing boat will run $20k

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

TO THE TAXMOBILE QUALMSEY, LET'S GO

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

new, obv you could get something used and beat up but these were huge boats

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

Yeah, there are all ranges of boats on the little lake my mom lives on, from the guys with bare bones fishing boats with outboard motors to fully tricked out pontoon boats with water slides, huge ass sound systems, lights and all the bells and whistles.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

the old up North axiom, your two best days with a boat are the day you buy it and the day you get rid of it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYX1rIe3SaQ

never gets old

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

I'm saying though don't see a small new fishing boat and assume it's cheap, esp if it's if it's all kitted out

it's like how old fashioned "cabins" barely exist they are all just McMansions with log cabin motifs

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

these fuckers are the same assholes that have "economic anxiety" and piss on "libs" for buying avocado toast and lattes or whatever. fuck them and their boats!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

I used to work with a Cajun guy who had five boats and a roided out pickup but no house or apartment.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

maybe if i assume that only two of those boaters wanted that ride, that video is america under trump. also, those two still think it was the best ride.

y'know who else is a cop? your mom. (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

i think the pilot and bink bikini are the two that like it, the rest are hostages going wtf

y'know who else is a cop? your mom. (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

it's like how old fashioned "cabins" barely exist they are all just McMansions with log cabin motifs

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, July 9, 2020 3:10 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Okay, well...idk what to say. There are lots of uninsulated cabins & very modest lake homes around here. I guess it's just a regional anomaly.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

haha, yep. i've stepped in many a shithole cabin

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

OMG THE BOAT SMASH VID wow

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

Cool yeah maybe different in different places, I'm not going to Suzy the thread

But I think the general trends of the real estate market are functioning over time at least here.Like my father in laws modest cabin got bought and torn down

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

I grew up surrounded by water and owning a boat was super common but there’s definitely different vibes /socioeconomic status between owning an aluminum fishing boat, speedboats that can haul skiers and pontoon boats.

In orbit based on your past MI posts I believe I was in your area a few weeks ago - we met up at a state park with some dunes and a prominent lighthouse

joygoat, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

Re: the cabins thing, I've lived in and visited many cabins, some incredibly shitty, some total things of wonder. Not really sure where this idea about cabins comes from.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

I think it's fair to say that the Trump/"re-opening" rhetoric around boating is def aimed at ppl with economic privilege, but it also lands with the people on other levels too. Thinking about 4 MI counties that refused to follow the gov's shut down orders back in May--all are very rural and on the water and on or adjacent to, like, national forests. Shutting down beaches, outdoor boat launches, and prohibiting going into the woods for people who live in rural/natural areas--those are some of the only things to do that are actually free or low cost that make living there worthwhile! And all are very low risk under certain circumstances, ie distancing, low pop density, etc.

Their non-compliance got combined in the news (afaict) with other counties but which were all Detroit suburbs-adjacent and very clearly ideologically motivated. Different groups, but the message hits for both.

lol hey jg! I just got here a couple of days ago and I've already been on one of three lakes! Gotta hit the other ones soon. We have dunes and a lighthouse of our own but we might be a little bit south of where you were? But I've got family in Manistee too so we fuck with our northern neighbors.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

HGTV shows xp

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

Supreme Court says Trump must provide his financial records to a NY grand jury. Decision was 7-2.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, July 9, 2020 10:22 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

!!!

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, July 9, 2020 10:22 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

honestly I am assuming these won't even come to light while he's alive

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED

y'know who else is a cop? your mom. (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

the boat smash video as I was introduced to it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE-nfzcUiPk

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

God i love that video

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

thats what you get for filming yourself doing nothing on a speedboat

tobo73, Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

dying

the way he goes down is just

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

boat smash trivia: the boat driver on the left now sits on one of trump's border patrol advisory committees

https://i.imgur.com/5YGlQsi.jpg

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

why do dudes like that always have phallic heads?

rb (soda), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

Lettin' their dick flag fly.

nickn, Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

l-r: dr. boner, mr. choad, 45, rep. gnardo shaft, and cpl. dick furrow

rb (soda), Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

honestly the best use of Turn Down For What

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

Isn't there a zoo?

The Washington Post reports:

The Republican convention in Jacksonville, Fla., next month could be moved to an outdoor stadium as cases of the novel coronavirus in the state increase, according to several officials with knowledge of the plans.

While no decision has been made, Republican officials are studying two outdoor professional sports stadiums near the VyStar Veterans Memorial Arena where the convention is currently slated to be held. They are also looking more broadly into the logistics of pulling off an outdoor convention, according to two Republicans involved in the planning.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

Covid spike PLUS heatstroke casualties, I like it.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

We have dunes and a lighthouse of our own but we might be a little bit south of where you were?

my parents are in traverse and we met up with them at silver lake state park as kind of an in-between spot for our first outside-the-house meetup last month

joygoat, Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

So beautiful there! We were going to take my nephew on a popular sand dune ride attraction but we found out they're putting 25 ppl in (open air) vehicles together and even with masks that was way too much.

Things are looking grim in TC iirc? Hope yr folks are doing okay & stay that way.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

i think to the extent today's ruling sets a bad precedent about oversight it's bad. but in terms of election stuff these both feel true

Hot take. Not sure I 100% believe this one, but worthy of tweeting.

Congress going through Trump's tax records and the media spending a ton of time on that story pre-election might be better for Trump than the alternatives, which is focus on COVID, the economy and the protests.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) July 9, 2020


Dramatically overstates Democratic ability to control the media. If thousands are dying from coronavirus and the economy is in shambles it doesn't matter what Democrats are prioritizing, that's the story.

— sean (@SeanMcElwee) July 9, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

Holy shit would it be awesome if they held it in a zoo. There's a high school right by here right next to a zoo. Apparently you could sometimes hear things like elephant trumpets and lion roars during gym class. Imagine that racket behind Trump on stage. Though you do run the risk of Don Jr. shooting something, I guess.

We spent a little bit of time in Traverse City last summer, and boy was it pretty. Especially a little further out, like Sleeping Bear Dunes, Glen Arbor, Leelanau ... Maybe if we end up going on a trip this summer we'll finally hit the UP.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

thousands of Covid deaths are not gonna be overshadowed by this. it's gonna be held up in courts forever just like everything else Trump related. people will forget by Sunday.

frogbs, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

right, I think Silver is way overstating the electoral importance of what MSNBC happens to be talking about. I could certainly see them and CNN breathlessly covering the Trump tax story and somewhat back-burnering COVID but it's not going to make any appreciable difference on the election.

basically where I'm at now is that it's very difficult to imagine Trump winning if the pandemic is in roughly the same or a worse place than it is right now, and it's very difficult to imagine that not being the case.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

what would have to be in Trump's tax returns to make a single person not vote for him

frogbs, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

personally bankrolling ACLU, Fyre Festival, Quibi

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

the revelation that he doesn't own a boat

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

what revelations would come from his financial documents? would they top his entire family's 50 year history of tax fraud that was already extensively reported by the NYT last year, and which no one *checks notes* yes absolutely no one cared about or ever mentioned again on any show, any book, any magazine article, or any forum post anywhere in the universe, ever again?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

because it would be tough to top that one in terms of gamechangers

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

i guess to put it a different way: at this point, there's nothing we can learn about donald trump that will be surprising. we all know he's full of shit, and that he is in fact a giant piece of shit. inside and out, covered in it. all his supporters know that too. the ones that are delusional enough to not see that are QAnon people and/or lost causes. in a way, his awfulness has become predictable.

covid19 and the economy and his always escalating white supremacy, though, are things that are happening in the present that are still unpredictable and very important to pay attention to. they'll dominate. maybe there will be news of a couple other women he slept with and paid off through national enquirer or whatever. but no one cares about that shit any more. that was donald trump misbehaving on one of his good days, back when he hoped he would be on E! or perhaps a carson daly segment. but all of that of kind of gets ran over by "another 1000 people died today"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

the obsession some ppl have with his tax returns has always been moronic, the world in which that could ever have mattered vanished with his election

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

see also russiagate

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

the only way they could ever be relevant (in the sense the resitance people want them to be) is if they revealed prosecutable crimes that are prosecuted during his presidency. that ship/boat has sailed and was probably always magical thinking.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

they are completely irelevant in a "trial by media" sense when there's a pandemic happening.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

and i tend to agree with the idea that if they were to become a story while he is president (they won't) it would help him rather than hurt him.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

seeing the guy driving the boat slam into the floor is one of the most satisfying things I've ever seen

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

hope the equivalent happens to trump in november

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

luxury avenue denigrated

From Fifth Avenue to Fulton Street to Richmond Terrace, NYC has a message for the world: #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/wtkzCHpURm

— NYC Mayor's Office (@NYCMayorsOffice) July 9, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

WHERES THOSE SIMON H TAX RETURNS

j., Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

mods, mookie posted a denigrating image itt

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

0:41 had me in stitches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hpEMSASqqM

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

It's folly to expect different results, but there's the chance that actual proof, that is to say, receipts, for the sort of stuff alleged by Trump detractors might sway a few naysayers who complained about the lack of clear evidence for past accusations. There's also the further useful purpose of any tax return revelations of shenanigans perhaps putting a nail in the coffin of any future Lil Trump runs. Don Jr, Ivanka ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

There's still a lot of ppl who aren't full Trumpers but think he's good for "the economy" or will overturn roe v Wade or whatever 1 or 2 issue bullshit they focus on and think the media just hates him cause they are "unfair" and hey all politicians are corrupt liars, surely if Trump was that awful and a criminal he'd be in jail and/or out of office by now, both sides yadda yadda…to whom maybe just maybe hard evidence of certain things in his taxes and financial records presented close to election would be final straw.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

Tho obv I lean towards "nothing fucking matters anymore" too

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

kinda funny how every Republican presidency's conclusion results in disastrous, almost unfixable destruction to the US. can't wait to see what the next Republican prez does to us.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

kinda funny how every Republican presidency's conclusion results in disastrous, almost unfixable destruction to the US

By design. So that the next administration can be blamed for the mess it inherited.

It's clever, in a diabolical way. And it demonstrably works! Why should they abandon the strategy at its moment of triumph?

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

and then every time, 2 years afterward all the democrats forget to vote again and the republicans take back wide swaths of what they lost during their previous disastrous reign

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

yeah I remember all my Republican friends on inauguration day going WHERE'S THE RELIEF??? WHY IS UNEMPLOYMENT SO HIGH, BARACK 'HUSSEIN'!?

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

I will admit in my early to mid 20s I just about never voted in mid-terms, which is a mistake I'm never making again.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

I thought Joe Biden's ads were annoying.

Jaime Harrison's (Lindsay Graham's opponent) outright sound stalkery.

"sorry Rob but we are emailing you again"
"sorry for the late email but I just couldn't sleep"

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

oh, well, now you know my first name! oops

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

By design. So that the next administration can be blamed for the mess it inherited.

uh i don't think this is why the nation is in shambles right now

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

Good morning!

BREAKING: Approval of Pres. Trump's oversight of the COVID-19 crisis has reached a new low since @ABC News/Ipsos began surveying on the coronavirus, with 67% of Americans disapproving of his efforts, per new ABC News/Ipsos poll. https://t.co/RvLIQjwDFs pic.twitter.com/BAmI0HtYRn

— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) July 10, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 July 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

Yo I’m currently on the Trump boat parade lake! Let me know if you have any questions I’ll ask the lake.

Heez, Friday, 10 July 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link

Prob gonna take my kid tubing! FROM A BOAT!

Heez, Friday, 10 July 2020 12:34 (three years ago) link

still thinking about the way the guy driving the boat goes down

mookieproof, Friday, 10 July 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

it's brutal

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 10 July 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

just another "the president fucking sucks, you all" story, but i've remixed it a bit for dramatic emphasis

“The President’s message has been consistent: resilience, hope, and optimism", White House spokesman Judd Deere said in an email statement.

Callers on President Trump in recent weeks have come to expect what several allies and advisers describe as a “woe-is-me” preamble.

The president rants about the deadly coronavirus destroying “the greatest economy,” one he claims to have personally built. He laments the unfair “fake news” media, which he vents never gives him any credit. And he bemoans the “sick, twisted” police officers in Minneapolis, whose killing of an unarmed black man in their custody provoked the nationwide racial justice protests that have confounded the president.

Gone, say these advisers and confidants, many speaking on the condition of anonymity to detail private conversations, are the usual pleasantries and greetings.

Instead, Trump often launches into a monologue placing himself at the center of the nation’s turmoil. The president has cast himself in the starring role of the blameless victim — of a deadly pandemic, of a stalled economy, of deep-seated racial unrest, all of which happened to him rather than the country.

“The President’s message has been consistent: resilience, hope, and optimism", White House spokesman Judd Deere said in an email statement.

“Every guy that talks to him, the first half of the conversation is, ‘Woe is me,’ ” said one of the outside operatives, speaking anonymously to share private details. “They’re all saying, ‘You’ve got to snap out of it. You’re the president. Presidents are supposed to deal with crises.’ But he’s fixated.”

“The President’s message has been consistent: resilience, hope, and optimism", White House spokesman Judd Deere said in an email statement.

We had the greatest economy in the world,” Trump said in an Oval Office meeting last month, talking about how good the statistics were before the coronavirus, said one adviser. An outside adviser in frequent touch with the White House offered a similar recollection, saying that Trump simply keeps on repeating, “I had this great economy and they made me shut it down.”

“The President’s message has been consistent: resilience, hope, and optimism", White House spokesman Judd Deere said in an email statement.

Other top White House advisers — including Hope Hicks and Dan Scavino — have also sought to buttress Trump’s mood with events they thought he would enjoy, such as celebrating truckers by bringing 18-wheelers onto the White House South Lawn in mid-April or creating social media videos that feature throngs of his adoring fans, according to aides. That's right, they had to create an event with 18-wheelers to put president toddler in a good mood before bedtime.

The president’s mood had also improved as he focused on the fight over whether to rename or tear down statues named after Confederate generals and other controversial historical figures. Aides say he believes a battle over such symbols will help him politically. he's a fucking racist!

“The President’s message has been consistent: resilience, hope, and optimism", White House spokesman Judd Deere said in an email statement.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-the-victim-president-complains-in-private-about-the-pandemic-hurting-himself/2020/07/09/187142c6-c089-11ea-864a-0dd31b9d6917_story.html

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

That paragraph about the trucks really stuck out for me:

VOTE SCREAMING TODDLER 2020 pic.twitter.com/qWg5KfQKgc

— burning ambulance (@burn_amb) July 10, 2020

"Come on, buddy - we'll go outside and look at trucks! You love trucks! Come on, put that down and let's go see the trucks..."

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 10 July 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

thank you for that remix karl

global tetrahedron, Friday, 10 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

remixing the news with only subtle changes is tricky work, but it's a good thing for democracy and i hope everyone does it.

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

I was going to say "caption this photo" but my mind immediately went to "I'M CUMMING! UNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH" and... no

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 10 July 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

yeah, please no, we already had to live through the orgasms of the lovely Lisa Page.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

powerful ad from the trump campaign

Joe Biden is Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Ilhan Omar's Trojan Horse for their radical Socialist agenda.

Don't be fooled! pic.twitter.com/N1zkEFf0KV

— Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) July 10, 2020

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

"the president fucking sucks, you all"

remove a comma and you have trump's october 2020 tagline

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

oooooooooooooooh

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

for the love of god, do not remove that comma

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

loooool at that ad

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

early version of "Ty Cobb" lyrics iirc

"Hard headed suck you all"

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

We've seen many iterations of the "Trump is petulant and whiny and narcissistic" story. Whenever I see them I wonder if they are seen and understood by anyone who isn't already convinced. Trump doesn't read the Washington Post; I suspect no one around him is allowed to either. No Trump voters read the Washington Post, and they wouldn't believe anything in it even if they did.

Are there persuadable undecided voters who will read that story and say "ah, NOW I get why he is unfit to lead!"

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

presumably a major section of WaPo readership never tires of those stories as it feeds the permarage they are hopelessly addicted to

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

i don't think the purpose of those stories is to persuade voters one direction or another (actually, it would be bad if that was the primary intent, if it's in the News section rather than op-ed! before i get flamed). i think it's just a periodic reminder to everyone that he's a colossal childish dipshit. it's weird to consistently get a dripfeed of such "news", but it would also be weird if no one reported it. it's a weird fucking conundrum! but that's just a minor side effect of having a weird fucking president

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

(oops, forgot to add the rest of the "before i get flamed" comment, but maybe i'll just leave that dangling there)

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

YMP, are you arguing that one of the two or three biggest newspapers in the US should not document the fact that the US president is a jabbering moron with the emotional grip-strength of a two-year-old? Because it lacks partisan value?

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

presumably a major section of WaPo readership never tires of those stories as it feeds the permarage they are hopelessly addicted to

not to defend the permarage, and certainly not to defend the particular kind of permarage/obsession that focuses in on all the least important details (what melania is doing, covfefe, whether or not trump is actually in a failing state of cognitive ability and can no longer form sentences out loud), but perhaps once Canada is led by a Trump-like administration and half of your fellow citizens lap it up like hitler youth, you'll have a bit of sympathy for the people who are hopelessly addicted to new information on the thing that has ruined their lives

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

it never ceases to amaze how thoroughly the Right has built up AOC as this all-powerful demogorgon. I saw a TV ad last night against Cal Cunningham, the extremely MOR milquetoast dude trying to unseat Thom Tillis in the Senate, that OF COURSE prominently featured her. because yes, if centrist Cal Cunningham is elected to the goddamn Senate to represent North Carolina, he is definitely going to be the minion of a one-term House member from the Bronx.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

tbc it's not the symptom I'm criticizing (I get it!) it's the treatment xp

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

and don't worry we'll get our national-level trump one day, we just lag behind

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

are you arguing that one of the two or three biggest newspapers in the US should not document the fact that the US president is a jabbering moron with the emotional grip-strength of a two-year-old? Because it lacks partisan value?

No, I am not arguing that. I am actually curious! Like, I genuinely wish to know (a) to what extent people's minds can be changed by information and (b) whether anyone's minds are actually changing. It's not a rhetorical question but an interrogative one.

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

to find the person whose mind can potentially be changed, we first need to take a journalistic journey to a small town in rural Pennsylvania. Maude's Diner was opened in 1984, in the heart of Reagan country, and some of those first patrons are still there as I step through th-

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

in a weird way, i think this sums up the 2020 experience better than pretty much anything

Holy shit whoever edited this takedown of the Hill it's absolute 🔥🔥🔥

(and @VaushV commentary wasn't bad either) pic.twitter.com/lfneWQZ1lq

— The Serfs (@theserfstv) July 10, 2020

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

lol fuck

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

it never ceases to amaze how thoroughly the Right has built up AOC as this all-powerful demogorgon

after 16 years they've forgotten how to run against a white guy, so they have little choice but to point the racial outrage machine at brown women

mookieproof, Friday, 10 July 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

@realDonaldTrump
Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education. Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status...
Donald J. Trump

... and/or Funding, which will be taken away if this Propaganda or Act Against Public Policy continues. Our children must be Educated, not Indoctrinated!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

cool when does the book burning start?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

that's a lot of Capitalization

mookieproof, Friday, 10 July 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

lol looks like a mocking SpongeBob meme

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

it never ceases to amaze how thoroughly the Right has built up AOC as this all-powerful demogorgon

she's popular, charismatic, good at Twitter, is a legitimate outsider and has great, bold ideas...in other words, everything they wish Trump was

frogbs, Friday, 10 July 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education. Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status...

Sure, right after churches lose theirs.

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

The religious right thinks the Second Coming of Christ will be him riding in on a Harley with a "BITCHES LEAVE" tank top on

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

i think they're afraid AOC is the second coming of christ and they're slowly realizing that the romans made some good points

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

I just want deities to follow the law

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

Trump is good at Twitter

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

Quantity does not equal quality.

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Friday, 10 July 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

Much like his logs

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

Grifting grifting grifting

https://www.citizensforethics.org/members-of-congress-ppp-transparency/

DJI, Friday, 10 July 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 11 July 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

Currently outside Roger Stone’s Fort Lauderdale rat hole: a big party with Jessi Melton, repugnant rice baiting Republican conspiracy theorist running against @TedDeutch. There’s a big banner for her, flags and a big "FUCK CNN" banner hanging from his house. No masks on anyone.

— Lesley Abravanel🆘 (@lesleyabravanel) July 11, 2020

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 11 July 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

ugh Ft. Lauderdale

muggy as shit

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 July 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

That might be the most repugnant tweet I've ever read

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 11 July 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link

boca is much less muggy, true

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 July 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link

what is rice baiting?

contorted filbert (harbl), Saturday, 11 July 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link

Roger Stone Free

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 11 July 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

I take some amount of solace in knowing roger stone will celebrate by going to a giant swingers’ party in florida, contract covid, and die within a month

— kilgore trout, suburban female understander (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 11, 2020

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 11 July 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

Inshallah

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 11 July 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

The Lincoln Project rules

pic.twitter.com/oLl63BSvcV

— Anthony 🔰 土着 (@Viscous_cree) July 11, 2020

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 11 July 2020 07:41 (three years ago) link

there's some enemy-of-my-enemy stuff going on here that will dissolve the minute Trump's out of office but i can't imagine in what alternate reality any of that would be news to people who regularly read this thread

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 11 July 2020 07:46 (three years ago) link

maybe someone i've killfiled is firing off dreamy poesies about that shitheel rick wilson i don't know

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 11 July 2020 07:47 (three years ago) link

Well, he did bring some nice harmonies on "Don't Worry Baby."

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 11 July 2020 10:44 (three years ago) link

I don't even know where this should go, but these guys are such complete assholes they should probably go here:

Bravo, ⁦@stltodayhttps://t.co/7tMOYykdxO

— erica orden (@eorden) July 11, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 July 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

and Susan Collins is troubled

Unprecedented, historic corruption: an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president.

— Mitt Romney (@MittRomney) July 11, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 July 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

The McCloskeys have filed many other lawsuits. They sued a man who sold them a Maserati they claimed was supposed to come with a box of hard-to-find parts. In one trip to the courthouse in November 1996, Mark McCloskey filed two lawsuits, one against a dog breeder whom he said sold him a German shepherd without papers and the other against the Central West End Association for using a photo of their house in a brochure for a house tour after the McCloskeys had told them not to.

“I guess we were saving gas,” he would quip in a deposition in another case about why he filed two lawsuits at once.

Mark McCloskey has run off trustees trying to make repairs to the wall surrounding his property, insisting that he and his wife own it. In 2013, he destroyed bee hives placed just outside of the mansion’s northern wall by the neighboring Jewish Central Reform Congregation and left a note saying he did it, and if the mess wasn’t cleaned up quickly he would seek a restraining order and attorneys fees. The congregation had planned to harvest the honey and pick apples from trees on its property for Rosh Hashanah.'

“The children were crying in school,” Rabbi Susan Talve said. “It was part of our curriculum.”

what's hilarious is that similar kinds of anecdotes both proceed and follow the excerpt above. these two are a cartoon supervillain assholes, and especially Mark. jfc

Karl Malone, Saturday, 11 July 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

don't jinx it, don't jinx it

Remarkable. The non-partisan and quite small-c conservative Inside Elections senate ratings have now moved Lindsey Graham's race into the competitive category. 12 GOP seats in play. (Graham's opponent is Jaime Harrison.) https://t.co/QqwYj51qcq

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 11, 2020

oh please oh please oh please

Karl Malone, Saturday, 11 July 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

I have been donating to Jaime's campaign monthly. Prayinnnn

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

holy shit

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 July 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

Senate Dem candidates reported raising a boatload of $$$. Why does that matter? In an tied race in June, a challenger who outraises the incumbent 2:1 gains 3 pts on average during the rest of the race. Now, multiple that by 5 tossup races. It's a huge deal https://t.co/3TT3Gavmmh

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) July 11, 2020



It's pretty clear to me that the Senate control is not a 50/50 proposition. It's pretty clear it tilts towards the Dems. (Not anywhere to the extent the prez race does.) But I'm gonna wait til all the fundraising is in before doing an update.

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) July 11, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

That confuses correlation and causation but still, donate if you can to these senate races.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

Dumb question, is it better to donate to a campaign now or closer to the actual election?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

better to donate the maximum now when it's technically the primary so you can donate the maximum again for the general, oh wait are you a normal person and not a GOP megadonor?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

Who am I kidding, the GOP megadonors don't obey the limits, they just give $100K to an "issue advocacy organization"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

Anyway, the advantage of "now" is it helps build momentum and it's easier to plan when you know you have the money instead of just expecting it, the advantage of "closer" is that the races that look close now might not be the ones that look close in November (e.g. a lot of people on both sides really thought Tammy Baldwin was gonna be in a competitive re-election campaign)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

So you're saying better to try and move the needle now than wait too long as discover the needle has already moved too far in any one direction?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

I'm authentically not sure which is better, just trying to describe how I see the tradeoff!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 11 July 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

Vote Save America's Get Mitch or Die Trying fund is splitting donations among "top Senate races where we believe your donation can make the biggest difference." It notes that the specific races are "subject to change as we get closer to the election. ... For example, we just paused on Arizona because that state race is extremely well-funded at the moment."

So if you donate to that fund, you don't have to worry about making the calculation yourself. But you do have to trust that they are making the right calculations.

jaymc, Saturday, 11 July 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

Although maybe you just want to donate to one specific campaign. I like the idea of spreading the wealth because winning back the Senate seems more important than any individual race.

jaymc, Saturday, 11 July 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

the commutation is just unbelievable. he’s pardoned the penguin.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 July 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

RIP John Lewis

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Saturday, 11 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

wait.. maybe not, the tweet was deleted

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Saturday, 11 July 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

A spokesman says the rumors are untrue.

jaymc, Saturday, 11 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

lol

Trumps campaign appears to believe he has won the election by putting on a mask, which raises the question of why they resisted this tactically brilliant political move until after 133k deaths pic.twitter.com/FHStWnVDLS

— Sam Stein (@samstein) July 11, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 11 July 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

Lack of polling also complicates donation efforts thus early in the cycle. I would donate to Rep. Omar in a heartbeat if I knew her primary was close but afaik there’s been no polling so far.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 12 July 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

At least we don't have to look at his puckered anus of a mouth anymore.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 12 July 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link

looking at the clip (a walk-by with some staff and secret service), i realize that the mask prevents him from talking, which is another big factor behind him not wanting to wear it. his preferred talking situation is one in which he is talking and no one else can talk. this is why his very favorite interview area is underneath the deafening roar of helicopter blades, so he can scream at everyone and ignore anything he doesn't want to hear. the walk-by is usually a more moderate version of the helicopter, but he can still shout a few things to the press and then immediately walk out a door...if he's not wearing a mask

Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 July 2020 00:21 (three years ago) link

This is @RepGrothman *today* at the Wisconsin Republican convention (which was held in-person) pic.twitter.com/MnsVlJryLE

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 12, 2020

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 12 July 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link

Politico reports:

On July Fourth, before President Donald Trump spoke to the nation from the White House lawn, he spoke indirectly to another community on Twitter: QAnon. That afternoon, he retweeted 14 tweets from accounts supporting the QAnon conspiracy theory, a sprawling and ever-mutating belief that a mysterious government official who goes by “Q” is leaving online clues about a messianic Trump’s secret plan to dismantle a cadre of Washington elites engaged in everything from pedophilia to child sex trafficking.

Those around Trump have followed suit. Eric Trump, the president’s son, recently posted a giant “Q” on Instagram as well as the hashtag version of the community’s slogan: “Where we go one, we go all.” White House deputy communications director Dan Scavino sparked glee on Facebook when he posted a photo with Q symbology. Over on Parler, the niche Twitter alternative and MAGA hub, Rep. Devin Nunes directed people to The Dirty Truth, a video producer who has promoted QAnon-related conspiracies.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/12/trump-tweeting-qanon-followers-357238

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 July 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

Good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 July 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

It's amazing that journalists haven't figured out after all these years that the easiest way to get Trump to admit to something is to phrase the question in a flattering way. You want him to comment on Q? Ask him "Isn't it exciting the way the Q people seem to really understand what you're trying to do as president? What do you think of what they're doing?" You'll get a solid minute of him swearing on camera that he loves the Q people, they're great patriots and he's very happy to have their support.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 12 July 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

Who cares?

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 12 July 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

8 polls in TX taken since June 1... Biden +0.3 pts... That includes 2 polls out this morning... One of which is Trump +1 and one that is Biden +5.

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) July 12, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 12 July 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

Lol they’re going to have to spend money in Texas

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 12 July 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

who is the favorite to run against cornyn? MJ Heger? i kind of lost track of the TX democratic primary for senator, what with coronavirus and all

Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 July 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

Yeah, Hegar is up +13 (vs. her primary opponents) in that same Texas poll. But Cornyn still has a significant lead in the general election.

Digging into the cross-tabs, the difference between the Senate race and the presidential race in Texas seems to be the independents. With Cornyn vs. Hegar, independents are split down the middle, which ultimately favors Cornyn. But they prefer Biden to Trump by nearly 2-to-1.

jaymc, Sunday, 12 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Fuckin Beto, man, had to waste everybody’s time running for President

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 12 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

After his bold remark about "of course we're coming for your guns" Beto sank his chances of ever becoming a senator from TX, at least until the earth shifts its axis.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 12 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

What if he seized the seat by violent force?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 July 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

More likely to see Hegar do that, as her ads push the point of her being a motorcycle riding combat veteran.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

gross

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 12 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

i know nothing about her really. i learned via wiki that she voted for fiorina in GOP primary in 16 and uh, that's some dumb shit.

y'know who else is a cop? your mom. (Hunt3r), Sunday, 12 July 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

There's a long list of nominees for the "That's Some Dumb Shit" award, and they all have to beat out the Chicago Tribune's endorsement of Gary Johnson (and this was *after* the "what is Aleppo?" gaffe).

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 July 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

Underrated Marx brother iirc

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 12 July 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

i don't think beto would have had a much better chance against cornyn than anyone else had he run for senate again this year, but he would have had a better effect than any other plausible candidate on the rest of the democratic ticket in texas.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 12 July 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link

now that I think about it, he would have been hopeless in 2020 due to a dearth of restaurant tables to stand on.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 12 July 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

just donated to

Gideon (Maine)
Hickenlooper (CO)
Mark Kelly (AZ)
Greenfield (Iowa)
Cunningham (NC)
Bullock (MT)

as far as i can tell, they all suck. 100% fine with that.

going to see if there's any more texas polling. if not (or if it's more like hegar down 5-10 points, which is what i expect) then i'll find some local texas things to donate to (tips welcome).

also if you're doing this sort of thing please consider donating to george gascon https://georgegascon.org/, who is running to be DA of the most populous county in the country, against a DA who has prosecuted exactly one police officer out of the 600 who have killed people during incumbency.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link

wait are you a citizen now caek

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 13 July 2020 04:54 (three years ago) link

you don't have to answer that, apparently permanent residents are not foreign nationals in the relevant context of campaign donations

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 13 July 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link

Citizen Caek

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 July 2020 05:02 (three years ago) link

no i'm still permanent resident. was hoping to vote this year but paperwork moved too slowly at every opportunity over the past ~4 years.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 05:10 (three years ago) link

caek do u like america

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 13 July 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link

it's been real

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 05:13 (three years ago) link

Ain’t that the truth

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 13 July 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

i like it a lot less now that i have kids. it's an awful place to have a family.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 05:15 (three years ago) link

Cornyn successfully avoids inspiring the visceral disgust at seeing or hearing him that Cruz does.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 13 July 2020 05:17 (three years ago) link

He's pretty disgusting

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 13 July 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

(spits)

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 13 July 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link

He's pretty disgusting

He is but you have to really know him to hate him (president of his high school's George Wallace 1968 street team!), whereas I'm pretty sure everyone who has laid eyes on Ted Cruz instinctively distrusted and despised him.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 13 July 2020 06:22 (three years ago) link

Yeah he looks kind of avuncular.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 06:23 (three years ago) link

Cornyn? There are times he strikes this kind of rictus rubber-face grin that reminds me of Jim Carrey playing the Grinch.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

predictions on the inevitable Trump tweet on the Redskins name change? I'm thinking something like "Washington REDSKINS is a proud name with a long and very successful tradition. Sad to see Lil Danny Snyder give in to the PC mob. GO COWBOYS!"

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 13 July 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

"I am issuing an EXECUTIVE ORDER demanding the restoration of the proud REDSKINS name."

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 July 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

Three cheers for the Washington Paternos

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

Washington Fumbles

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

Don't know if it's translating into any real support but GODDAMN Omar's challenger in MN is spending money on direct mail and distributing fliers, get two a day sometimes

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

Damn yeah like I said yesterday if polls come out showing the race being even halfway close I’m definitely sending her some scratch

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

I fucking hate these political solicitations. I donated to Jaime Harrison in SC, then within the hour got two emails asking for more money. There was an option to reduce email volume, so I selected that, and still got a third email within the next hour. So, three in the same day - hours, really - after already donating. I immediately unsubscribed and there was a field to write why, so I basically wrote "I already know who you are and that Lindsey Graham is an asshole; that is why I donated. Plus ... I literally just donated. So leave me alone and trust that if I ever feel like donating again I will."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

I mean it's how they work - idk any politician whose solicitation doesn't involve shitting emails out every two hours. regardless of what you already gave.

Jaime's just amuse me because of the titles. Whereas Joe Biden's are all "give me $5, asshole", Jaime's are all "Sorry, Neanderthal" or "Bad news, Neanderthal", or "I am awake, I can't sleep, so I am emailing you, Neanderthal", or "What color do you think I should paint my house, Neanderthal"?

I'm contributing monthly though so I don't feel guilty just deleting em.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

I’ve got a spam email account just for pol donations


I know it’s probably as much of a long shot as Mitch but my god seeing Lynsey put out to pasture would be massively satisfying

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

Dem fundraising emails are definitely obnoxious but the Trump ones are actively creepy, it's always something like

From: Don Jr.

Hi Jim :( Daddy's really mad at me again. I promised him you were going to contribute to his campaign...I even imagined myself triumphantly presenting the Patriot List to Daddy with YOUR NAME at the top. He even told me personally about the 6X MATCH...I said Dad, you're crazy, Jim is a real American, he's proud to stand against Antifa and the fake news, you don't need to do the 6X MATCH....but he insisted. I just want to know, what happened? I thought you believed in my Dad and in this country. What should I tell him before the deadline of JULY 14, 2020 6:00 PM CST??

frogbs, Monday, 13 July 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

I signed up to get a ticket to a Trump rally (which I know won't impact attendance due to overselling), but he keeps sending surveys and I keep taking them and trolling him.

tehy're all questions like

DO YOU THINK THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA IS

A) GOOD???!!
B) BAD!

DO YOU THINK SLEEPY JOE IS

A) STUPID
B) BAD
C) OTHER

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

The cover of that Don Jr. book is awesome. What is he even doing on it? (And which Democrat is defending the indefensible, do we have to read it to find out?)

Don Jr. does this chest flex thing that makes him look like a puffing prancing preening animal.

I find it perplexing that Fauci does not loudly resign. Not only is it counterproductive if not outright dangerous to be in a position where the president can reportedly restrict his appearances and comments, even aside from that this is a president that consistently undercuts and contradicts his advice at every turn. Anyone that appreciates Fauci now would appreciate Fauci wherever he was, and he might have even more of an impact freed from the constraints and abuse from the Asshole in charge. How effective can he be when the person in charge of executing his recommendations is both muzzling him and encouraging the opposite of his advice?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

Fauci's main job right now is to convince Republicans that this thing is real & dangerous and I respect him for swallowing his ego to do so

frogbs, Monday, 13 July 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

“Public spokesperson for infectious disease response” is not his real job. He’s the widely respected director of NIAID, has been for decades, and has an organization and an extramural community of hundreds of grant-funded researchers supportive of his leadership. Resigning wouldn’t dent Trump and would hamper the work of his colleagues.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

I'm sure there are a lot of government folks right now thinking "Six months to go..."

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

If Fauci resigned, the GOP line would be that his opinion is invalid as he no longer has access to the most up-to-date information.

henry s, Monday, 13 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

yeah he's in a shitty spot. he's allowed to do media appearances it seems as long as they aren't official or only via podcasts and crap. I hope he's getting through to some Republicans but I honestly don't know. And the longer he's there getting crapped on by Trump it introduces this doubt about scientists that is bound to wreck any vaccination effort when and if a vaccine shows up; I hadn't really thought through all the implications of this until Kathleen Sibelius said this:

"Kathleen Sebelius, who served as secretary of Health and Human Services under former President Barack Obama, told CNN efforts to discredit Fauci and other scientists are "potentially very, very dangerous" as the US and other countries work toward a coronavirus vaccine.

"I think people want to know from the scientists that the vaccine is safe, that it is effective, that it will not do more harm than good," she told Blitzer on "The Situation Room."

"And if the public scientists have been discredited, if the President says 'don't believe them, you can't listen to them, they're often wrong,' we have then undermined a national vaccination campaign which is an essential step to bringing this horrible period to an end.""

akm, Monday, 13 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

lol frogb's don jr msg

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

Who is the floating head gnawing on Donald Jr.'s shoulder?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

Fauci remains in control of the vaccine search stuff IIUC so has concluded that he is better inside the tent being pissed on, which, fair enough, thank you for your service.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

this appears to be the only competitive gubernatorial race this year

Missouri Governor GE:
Mike Parson (R-inc) 41% (+2)
Nicole Galloway (D) 39%@YouGovAmerica/@SLU_Official 6/23-7/1https://t.co/sw6774hxek #MOgov

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) July 13, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

Don't know if it's translating into any real support but GODDAMN Omar's challenger in MN is spending money on direct mail and distributing fliers, get two a day sometimes

Driving around the Lake of the Isles/Lowry Hill area the other day, am seeing his sign on a ton of lawns. I want a deeper dive into who's funding this dude's campaign.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

something tells me it's going to be a rich christian who believes in literal approaching armageddon

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

what's the polling on her? I wouldn't be surprised to see her lose TBH

akm, Monday, 13 July 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

i *wish* it was an erotic thriller

carin' (map), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

"working with the lincoln project"

steamy

carin' (map), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

I haven't read that article yet but the answer is "yes"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

it is 100% letting the enemy fingerbang you in the hopes that they will help you get a Honda Prelude

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

Something something something Lincoln logs

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

what's the polling on her? I wouldn't be surprised to see her lose TBH

MN-5 is like +25 Dem, most liberal district in Minnesota, there's no chance Omar loses in 2020

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

Trump's campaign is spending 13% of its Facebook digital advertising budget on Texas.

— Plural Vote 📊🗳📈 (@plural_vote) July 13, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

To what extent does any progressive / liberal / Democrat need to "work" with the Lincoln Project?

I think I can enjoy whatever chaos they are able to sow without endorsing them as people or it as an organization or whatever. Let them to their thing (because hey, free country and all). I don't need to like them personally to accept that they may peel off some support from DT.

That said, I doubt they're having much impact. The vast majority of Republicans are on the Trump Train. There's a tiny little sliver of NeverTrumpers who are in conversation with themselves.

Decent humans were already convinced that Trump is a vile piece of shit and didn't need slickly produced ads to convince them further.

What am I missing?

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

xp to facebook digital advertising budget - over what time period? for the year? for last week? for next month?

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

the fear is that the dem establishment will give them (and people who think like them) disproportionate credit and confirm their bias that the way to win is to court right-wing voices.

xp

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

To what extent does any progressive / liberal / Democrat need to "work" with the Lincoln Project?

https://i.imgur.com/vLNdtIc.jpg

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

To what extent does any progressive / liberal / Democrat need to "work" with the Lincoln Project?

the article is about a specific progressive, liberal Democratic video producer working for them. I'm not sure why ulysses posted the link without comment, but we really don't need to do a 13th round of this discussion on the back of this short profile

rob, Monday, 13 July 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

f.hazel Omar’s challenger is a centrist Democrat with trying to primary her. His campaign looks astroturfed as shit to me, but maybe people here are buying it. My neighborhood has about an equal number of signs for both of them, including one yard with both of their signs in it lol. No publicly available polling for this primary race afaik

Dan I., Monday, 13 July 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

“Who is” not “with” sorry

Dan I., Monday, 13 July 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

apologies, I thought the Dem primary in MN was over!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

the fear is that the dem establishment will give them (and people who think like them) disproportionate credit and confirm their bias that the way to win is to court right-wing voices.

Ok well if you look at current polling, it's clear that Trump will have a tough time winning with his current base (no matter how "enthusiastic" they are). He needs to convert people who are not currently in his camp. Anything that gives them pause might plausibly be helpful (though I remain skeptical that there is a large population of persuadable independent voters).

I don't know any serious Democrat who thinks this election will be won by "courting right-wing voices." The steps are 1. Ensure the traditional D base has access to voting, 2. Keep D enthusiasm high and MAYBE 3. Entice wavering independents.

I am not aware of anyone whose strategy is "Oh, let's tap into this YUGE pool of anti-Trump Republicans, for surely they are the ticket to a Biden victory!!! Surely Evan McMullin and Mitt Romney and Max Boot are just the tip of an immense silent iceberg of dissenters!" Perhaps I am wrong in this and would be happy to be enlightened.

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

xxp to rob. it's ok, there's room on the internet for me to keep telling people that they are advancing the interests of the post-trump republican party without having any effect on the 2020 election (lmao "sowing chaos") by retweeting rick wilson and the red state super racist's stuff.

omar is not going to lose a primary or a general election.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

xp remember the PUMAs

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

this appears to be the only competitive gubernatorial race this year

Montana too I think

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

Don't know if it's translating into any real support but GODDAMN Omar's challenger in MN is spending money on direct mail and distributing fliers, get two a day sometimes

I gathered up a bunch in an envelope and sent them back to the campaign, lol

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

Ha. I've probably received a dozen by now.

geoffreyess, Monday, 13 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure why ulysses posted the link without comment

pertinent to the conversation and a fast read; didn't really have anything to add.
also, i'm being paid by russian operatives to foment dissent.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

BEST. PRESIDENT. EVER.

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

It was a good piece, I enjoyed it.

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

I am making sure I overseas vote the MN5 primary for Omar.

santa clause four (suzy), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

I am literally going to chew off my own arm https://t.co/r5IrGLK1nu

— Imani Gandy ☄️🌏🔥 (@AngryBlackLady) July 13, 2020

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

You know he's really feeling it when he crosses his arms like that.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

"Trump absurdly tries to blame Obama for problems w/ testing for Covid-19, which didn't exist until nearly 3 years after he left office."

He didn't. Are these ppl really this dense or are they consciously lying in order to make Trump seem even stupider?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 13 July 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

I don't know any serious Democrat who thinks this election will be won by "courting right-wing voices."

yeah, but plenty of unserious democrats do. for example--donors.

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 July 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

A lot of serious democrats have become serious about making frequent, targeted, small donations.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 13 July 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

I have successfully avoided hearing Trump's voice for at least six months, then Hulu hit me with a Trump campaign ad during the Justified finale.

Apparently Joe Biden is going to abolish the police and encourage rapists btw.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 13 July 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

<man looks up from ventilator in ICU and thinks to himself, “I’m definitely a single-issue plagiarism voter this year”> https://t.co/g05h3eCiET

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) July 13, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

It's hard, but of course. Next question.

y'know who else is a cop? your mom. (Hunt3r), Monday, 13 July 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

annoys me to see posts like that, tbh

Dan S, Monday, 13 July 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

"he stole The Old Man and the Sea word for word"

"That was his Typing final"

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 July 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

Meanwhile, Melania has been going on and on about 'Malarkey' and her relationship with a "Corn Pop".

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 July 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

why post that shit, really

Dan S, Monday, 13 July 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link

"Trump absurdly tries to blame Obama for problems w/ testing for Covid-19, which didn't exist until nearly 3 years after he left office."

He didn't. Are these ppl really this dense or are they consciously lying in order to make Trump seem even stupider?

What? He did! He straight up says "Biden and Obama stopped testing". Stopped testing what? WTF do either Biden or Obama have to do with Covid management to begin with?!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

I think he was probably talking about H1N1, except he's too stupid to realize he has to say the thing he's talking about first, and what he's saying likely isn't true, so that's another reason why it's hard to follow.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

he's not too stupid, he purposely made an ambiguous accusation, which he’s really good at by the way, so as to connect and implicate them in an undefined way

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

Yeah he's literally playing the "THANKS OBAMA" meme only for real.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

^ otm. it's one of the few things he's good at that is more complex than a fifth grader could devise.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

Biden to call for spending $2 trillion over four years in his new clean energy plan, plus setting the goal of a 100% clean energy standard by 2035. Plus more details. Scoop with @jendlouhyhc and @arinatter. https://t.co/vGqN9Nzk7l

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) July 14, 2020


Biden's new plan for $2 trillion over four years replaces the $1.7 trillion over 10 years climate plan that he put out last year. So he's talking about spending more money and much faster. https://t.co/vGqN9Nzk7l

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) July 14, 2020


The 100% clean electricity by 2035 standard that Biden is proposing is something promoted by @JayInslee and also adopted by @ewarren. https://t.co/QBesfpli5D

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) July 14, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link

uh....good for him

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

it's good

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link

No no Biden sucks, there’s a whole thread about it

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link

he also smells

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 04:05 (three years ago) link

biden sucks.

this is evidence that continued pressure from grassroots climate orgs (and other parts of the left) works. that's in part because those campaigns have been pretty well-run and sustained, and in part because the recipient is a frail old man seems to be invulnerable to attacks that he is socialism in disguise (cf. nixon could go to china).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link

good thing he sucks so bad he can run on a plan like this and still scare the shit out of Trump

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link

Correct

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 05:11 (three years ago) link

quality slice of caek

bat ain't Thad (sic), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 05:44 (three years ago) link

good thing politicians don’t just say things to get elected

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link

why vote the government always get in, eh?

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link

I mean good for him (or his handlers) for for correctly taking the temp of the avg Democratic voter in 2020 but I guess we’ll see what they actually pursue if elected

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 11:06 (three years ago) link

i expect the progressive wonderland of 2009-10 all over again

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 11:24 (three years ago) link

cheer up you'll have more fun bitching about biden than trump

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

I mean good for him (or his handlers) for for correctly taking the temp of the avg Democratic voter in 2020 but I guess we’ll see what they actually pursue if elected

I wish people would stop saying shit like this. Everyone tries to enact their platform once they are elected. They often aren't successful, which is built into the design on the federal government; everything is set up in opposition to each other in order to promote compromise and slow down change. This doesn't change the fact that Presidents, including Trump, try to enact the platforms they ran on.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

I’m sorry but I’ll not be taking Joe Biden (or 99% of politicians tbf) at his word on the campaign trail.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

(or 99% of politicians tbf)

Do you make an exception for Saint Bernie, I wonder?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

not even Bernie.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

though I’ll say if you want to know where a politician’s loyalties lie just look at their donor list.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

re: funding behind Ilhan Omar’s primary opponent:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-antone-melton-meaux-ilhan-omar-minnesota-primary_n_5f0633a9c5b6480493caca13

No idea the veracity of this but it certainly jibes with what I guess I'd call "word on the street" here.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

bernie has more credibility for having the same priorities for much, much longer but he's just one person and would absolutely need to be subjected to the same collective pressure

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

^absolutely

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

Anyone who wants to be a politician is, to some degree, a narcissist. IMHO, about 95% are also sociopaths, no matter the party flag they fly.

Trusting politicians is about as stupid as trusting a dog not to steal the steak hanging off the counter when you leave the room.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

GA could be in play so Joe’s getting my vote, but I’ll retain my right to dump on him and his party’s leadership til the end. honestly I feel like it’s my duty as an American.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

xposts caek and DJP otm

but yes, i fear for the future. the progressive wonderland of 2009-10 briefly featured a democratic supermajority in the senate, too. this time around we might have *knock on wood* 53-54. I'm glad that biden's team allowed themselves to be pushed toward a much stronger policy. before this task force, they were advocating zero net emissions by 2050. now that's 2035. before it was a $1.7T over 10 years, now it's $2T over 4 years - that's almost 3 times more per year, and over a period of time that actually covers the presidential term rather than a wishlist for future fascist spending.

these are good things, significantly better than before. it's not the plan that bernie sanders would have proposed, that's for sure. but it's probably getting close to what elizabeth warren would have landed on. and regardless, yes of course they will be significantly watered down, potentially destroyed, during the negotiations with the republicans, everyone knows that.

i do think that the political climate, both in the senate and also across the country, is a little different than in 2009-10. it seems easy to predict that the republicans will unanimously stonewall anything that has to do with a "green new deal". but i don't know - they may be in for an asskicking this november, and whoever is left will face the choice between going down in their own racist flames or compromising with democrats and going down in the racist flames of their supporters. along with that, democrats on climate change will face a decision between following all the proper procedures and traditions and waiting another 10-20 years to get another supermajority in the senate so they can actually pass a real green new deal without it being watered down, or they can pull a mitch mcconnell and get procedurally evil to accomplish what needs to happen

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

xps the difference is that dog probably deserves the steak tbh

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

Being unable to pass something is not the same thing as straight-up lying to you to secure your vote. If you think these people on both sides of the aisle are straight-up lying to you to get your vote, look at what the timelines of what they've tried to do once they've gotten into office. The majority of Obama's "broken promises" were attempts that failed or line items that were actively thwarted by other branches of government; ditto GWB. You will find the same pattern with GHWB and Clinton and Carter and Reagan and Trump. All of them tried to enact their platforms; it's borderline stupid to assume they won't given that these are the policies they are trying to enact.

There are fundamental differences between being unable to enact your platform, trying to enact your platform and failing, and making up shit people want to hear so you can get into office and do whatever you want, even if the end result is the same. Not every bad result is the outcome of malicious intent and it's wholly unhelpful to ascribe it when it isn't there. It's not about "trusting politicians"; it's about looking at the history, following the actions of everyone involved, and realizing that none of this shit exists in a perfectly-formed vacuum.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

my mistrust of the Democratic Party stems from the fact that many of their ostensible progressive policy goals are antithetical to capital

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

What are the odds that by January the economy is such a disaster that a handful of Rs sign on to a massive climate bill because"jobs"?

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

What are the odds that in 2024 the lingering effects of this calamity are blamed on Joe Biden, should he win the presidency, regardless of what he does or how effective it is?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

its being blamed on him right now

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

If only he hadn't personally put a stop to coronavirus testing back in 2015.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

headline for today's white house propaganda eblast: "have you considered eating cake?"

Ivanka Trump: College Isn’t the Only Job Path, ‘Find Something New’

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

What are the odds that in 2024 the lingering effects of this calamity are blamed on Joe Biden, should he win the presidency, regardless of what he does or how effective it is?

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:34 AM (seventeen minutes ago)bookmarkflaglink

its being blamed on him right now

― frogbs, Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:40 AM (eleven minutes ago)

coronavirus is 50% biden's fault, 50% obama's fault, tbf

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

thanks, coronabamen!

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

I think most of us know it's all up to left-leaning Dems (and the Dem Socs) to pressure a Biden admin, and I do mean nonstop, bcz aside from the "back to never thinking about the prez again" types, the Pelosi/Schumer fanclubs will be content with owning the Republican supervillains by, idk, wearing red dresses and tweeting the latest meme.

Remember when climate change was going to be the #1 campaign issue?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

ok wow from this stolid institutionalist:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/joe-biden-2020-filibuster-360587

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

DJP is OTM up there

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

DJP is otm and it reminds me of an awful exchange with a pink rose brigand friend of a friend to whom I tried to explain how legislation gets passed.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

What are the odds that in 2024 the lingering effects of this calamity are blamed on Joe Biden, should he win the presidency, regardless of what he does or how effective it is?

Republicans will do this even if Donald Trump is still President in 2024.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

just like Obama got blamed for the 2008 meltdown. I'm sure the Biden people expect it.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

i'm not ascribing evil intent to every democratic politician operating within the confines of how Business Gets Done in DC ca 2020, but I certainly don't think it's controversial to note that legislation will typically won't even make it to the sausage grinder if it's not signed off by the donor class first. that's unambiguously awful.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

ok wow from this stolid institutionalist:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/joe-biden-2020-filibuster-360587

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:03 PM (thirteen minutes ago)

this seems....really big? and a very good thing?

Former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday signaled he would be open to the Senate ending its practice of imposing a 60-vote threshold for most legislation, a positional shift from the Democratic presidential nominee who spent more than 35 years as a senator.

In comments to journalists Monday that were reported by The New York Times, Biden said he hoped to create systemic change on an array of issues in the U.S. and said he was open to measures that would allow legislation to pass the Senate with a simple majority vote.

...“I do think we’ve reached a point, a real inflection in American history. And I don’t believe it’s unlike what Roosevelt was met with,” Biden told reporters on Monday. “I think we have an opportunity to make some really systemic change.”

...Biden’s comments come amid a shift in messaging from traditionally centrist Democrats, who now are no longer ruling out aggressive action to pass legislation. Most prominently, Biden ally Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) told POLITICO in June that he would not rule out banning the filibuster.

“I will not stand idly by for four years and watch the Biden administration's initiatives blocked at every turn,” Coons said. “I am gonna try really hard to find a path forward that doesn't require removing what's left of the structural guardrails, but if there's a Biden administration, it will be inheriting a mess, at home and abroad. It requires urgent and effective action.”

In 2017, Coons spearheaded a letter to support the filibuster and block measures from fellow Democrats to eliminate it.

the Coons thing, too. and i like how Biden is explicitly tying it to FDR/New Deal. this is not "winning", but this is a good sign

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

eg single payer healthcare xp

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

is there a VP pick thread? alfred will biden lose FL if he picks karen bass because she once said a nice thing about castro?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/karen-bass-joe-biden-running-mate/613975/

i find the speculation in that article that he wants to avoid being seen to anoint the next president by picking someone less likely to run in 2024 interesting.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

Trump admin. just carried out the first federal execution in 17 years. In the midst of a pandemic. Against the wishes of the victims’ families, who both didn’t want the execution, and asked it be postponed so they could attend without fear of COVID. Two more planned this week. https://t.co/YYP7tzZQXR

— Radley Balko (@radleybalko) July 14, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

as easy as it is to say 'twas ever thus, i just don't think the impediments to Better Things have ever been more entrenched or better financed

but hey, on a paradoxically hopeful note maybe the low-to-high-key immiseration of virtually everyone who's not a white boomer (and even a lot of those) is going to bring about a sea change.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

as easy as it is to say 'twas ever thus, i just don't think the impediments to Better Things have ever been more entrenched or better financed

another way to look at this is "if things are always getting worse, right now might be the best chance you ever get"

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

"Ivanka Trump: College Isn’t the Only Job Path, ‘Find Something New'"

this shit is infuriating, it's the standard canard from rich republicans who went to school speaking to poor rural voters. in all honesty: I used to advocate for this too. And I maintain that a lot of money should be flowed toward vocational training as well as community colleges. But that doesn't mean you dissuade people from going to college and make it impossible for them to afford to do so unless they're already rich.

akm, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

i'd been trying to find him on the record about this for a while. i think this is the first time? obviously doesn't matter unless he does something about procedural roadblocks, but this is good.

DC should be a state. Pass it on. https://t.co/xUJ1sud76f

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) June 25, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

(good in the context of him talking about the filibuster i mean)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

an hours old quote, but:

2009-10 briefly featured a democratic supermajority in the senate

starring Joe Lieberman as the critical 60th vote

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

another potentially hopeful note on Biden:
if he has the capacity to gracefully accept his mortality (instead of this sociopathic generational preference for walking out on the check and then burning down the all-u-can eat boomer buffet) maybe he’ll just say Fuck it let’s be legends and go real big. He def doesn’t need to busy himself w careerist strategizing.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

Live remarks on the climate plan for anyone who cares to watch https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/biden-climate-plan.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

Lmao they gave up


NEWS: Government has agreed to rescind the July 6 policy on international students and online learning and FAQ released the next day. Also agreed to rescind any implementation and will return to status quo of March 9 guidance

— Karin Fischer (@karinfischer) July 14, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

The more significant fact is that they even tried.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

yes the damage is done

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

thatll show em

Breaking News: The Trump administration ordered hospitals to bypass the CDC and send key coronavirus information to a Washington database, alarming health officials https://t.co/hb3PHaA9xr pic.twitter.com/nvhPmmfa0P

— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 14, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

morale must be rock bottom at CDC right now, among the career employees. 4 former CDC administrators blasted CDC for sucking at everything, and on the same day it's revealed that the trump admin is just bypassing them as much as possible (bypassing them to...what? another part of HHS? to the task force? to jared? god, the internal dysfunction is crazy)

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

The international student thing is a huge fuckin seal for my university

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

Governors, big-city mayors, public health officials, and congressional leaders should be resigning in disgrace, firing those responsible, groveling for forgiveness, or fleeing town under cover of night.

Instead, they are mainly just waiting for the worst to be over, until the moment they, too, can put out celebratory posters...

https://newrepublic.com/article/158489/andrew-cuomo-coronavirus-mountain-poster-governors-should-resign

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been hospitalized for a possible infection, per a SCOTUS spokesperson.

— Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen) July 14, 2020

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

not to blow things out of proportion...WHAT IF

RBG dies, mcconnell and trump, with the backing of all republicans and conservatives, decide to push through a nomination 5 months before the 2020 election, even though they famously refused to raise Garland's nomination to vote 8 months before the 2016 election, and just to twist the knife, mcconnell invokes the "nuclear option" and obliterates the filibuster to push the nomination, reasoning that Democrats were going to do it soon anyway

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

on the other hand, maybe it's just a skin infection! DON'T DIE RBG JFC

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

they already eliminated the filibuster for supreme court confirmations with gorsuch

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

not to blow things out of proportion...WHAT IF

RBG dies, mcconnell and trump, with the backing of all republicans and conservatives, decide to push through a nomination 5 months before the 2020 election, even though they famously refused to raise Garland's nomination to vote 8 months before the 2016 election, and just to twist the knife, mcconnell invokes the "nuclear option" and obliterates the filibuster to push the nomination, reasoning that Democrats were going to do it soon anyway

Then we lose a Supreme court seat but (due to a tidal wave of Dem voter rage) gain the Senate - now minus the filibuster - and the presidency? Seems like kind of a mixed bag result for the criminals.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

they already eliminated the filibuster for supreme court confirmations with gorsuch

goddamn that's right

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

they're saying antibiotic treatment so doubtful it's COVID but any infection at that age is nerveracking.

c'mon, RBG.....:/

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

full statement:

Justice Ginsburg was admitted to The Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland early this morning for treatment of a possible infection. She was initially evaluated at Sibley Memorial Hospital in Washington, D.C. last night after experiencing fever and chills. She underwent an endoscopic procedure at Johns Hopkins this afternoon to clean out a bile duct stent that was placed last August. The Justice is resting comfortably and will stay in the hospital for a few days to receive intravenous antibiotic treatment.

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

they already eliminated the filibuster for supreme court confirmations with gorsuch

and kavanaugh still barely squeaked in even after the bar was lowered to 50 + Pence's potential tie breaker.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

lol this fucking presser

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

just using an official Rose Garden presser as a campaign rally nbd

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

still deeply funny to me so many people are so gun shy from 2016 they think trump has some secret mode he’s gonna pivot into at any moment when all he does is go out in public and puke on himself in more spectacular fashion than the last time he did it

— kilgore trout, suburban female understander (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 14, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

Per the presser... in America in twenty years: suburbs are outlawed, buildings have no windows, women vergender (?), lobsters something something.

rb (soda), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

are you pro-vergender or anti-window?? pick a side!!

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link

Justin Vergender

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

Vergenders Endgame

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 22:47 (three years ago) link

Maybe she will retire

Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

Women have a vergender, boys have a covfefe.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

Hens fap

Blursday the Vagueteenth of Whenember (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

does anyone have thoughts on theresa greenfield (running against Ernst in IA)? her website looks like a squarespace demo

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link

tell me more about the lobsters, I'm still deciding who I'm voting for

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

i donated to her because she's running against ernst. i have no thoughts on her.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

(that's an xp to karl malone)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

mh likely knows the inside scoop on ernst's opponent.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link

The people of Alabama apparently believe the rest of America should have to say the words "Senator Tuberville" without laughing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link

lol I saw someone online suggest playing up the Alabama/Auburn rivalry as a way to get fans of the former to vindictively vote against him. In this situation that's so stupid it might just be smart.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link

fuck sports rivalries as politics

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link

Caught about two minutes of his whatever-it-was today. Very satisfying to hear how robotic and lifeless--demoralized, I assume--he sounded.

clemenza, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link

things that are real:

If it’s Goya, it has to be good.
Si es Goya, tiene que ser bueno. pic.twitter.com/9tjVrfmo9z

— Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump) July 15, 2020

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

I literally just read about the Goya thing five minutes ago

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link

I would have thought she'd be more of an all beans matter sorta person

Evan, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link

ted cruz's grandparents ate two cans of goya beans every day despite their being made in nyc and unavailable in cuba at the time

that's how much they loved america

mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link

Goya was terrible before their politics. They gave me pantry moths and diarrhea. Maybe they’ll impart the same blessings to 1600 Penn Ave.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

...ohhhhh boya.

y'know who else is a cop? your mom. (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link

jeff.

jeff.

Rather than fight Trump, who remains very popular among Alabama Republicans, Sessions spent the final months of the campaign pledging his loyalty to a president who constantly demeans him. He told voters that he was, in fact, the real pro-Trump candidate because he had spent so much time working on the immigration and trade policies that are the centerpiece of the president’s agenda.

Emerging from casting his own ballot Tuesday morning, Sessions made one final, almost sad, assertion that he would be a Trump purist if he won his old seat back, noting that several staunch conservatives had overcome the president’s endorsement of other candidates in recent weeks.

“In all three, the candidate who actually won was a stronger supporter of the Trump agenda,” Sessions told reporters.

goddammit jeff

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 06:40 (three years ago) link

everyone's gone home jeff. come home. it's time. you can be racist at home

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 06:41 (three years ago) link

so I guess the dems are probably going to lose one senate seat eh :-/

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

Not necessarily; a state stupid enough to put a college football coach up as a Senate candidate just because he was a college football coach is stupid enough that voters who are also fans of his rival college may well refuse to vote for him.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link

Holy SHIT pic.twitter.com/SlztuxewtY

— 𝕤𝕥𝕖𝕖𝕝𝕪 𝕕𝕒𝕕 (@HaitianDvorce) July 15, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

by same logic, Dems need to run Oprah vs DJT

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

You say that like no one has thought of it or spread it around Twitter in the past 4 years

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

well i'm still hoping it's a 0.00001% option over Citibank Joe

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

dunking on his college football record is pretty funny

Doug Jones should literally just call up specific plays that pissed off fans "Mr. Tuberville, you're down by 14 on your own 35 yard line....3rd and 7....you run up the middle?? I'm sorry but Alabama can't take this kind of leadership"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

Kanye West has ended his presidential bid per Fox News

— Emma Kinery (@EmmaKinery) July 15, 2020

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

shit

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

good start

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link

in other news I have ended my Mr. Universe campaign

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link

quick, we need something else for liberals to kneejerk panic about

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

good morning!!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

√\in other news I have ended my Mr. Universe campaign

― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:48 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Simon I believe in you even if you don't believe in yourself, we've come too far to give up now

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

thatll be tough given their laser-focused priorities xxp

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

Richard Page of Mr Mister has joined the race

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

DON'T VOTE FOR SIMON H EVEN AS A JOKE

this has been the best year fuiud (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

godDAMN ‘Alabama Dems’ going the fuck off!

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

drag em dems

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

WE GONNA DRAG YOU DOWN
LUXURY AVENUE
AND THEN WE SAY GOODBYE-UH

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

whoever’s in charge of that twitter account should be the next DNC chair

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

Hegar back to polling 10 points down. Friendship ended. Doug Jones is my new best friend.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

I’m guessing the almost psychotic role college football plays in Southern states means these burns are especially great, yes?

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

Biden still rolling with a 13 point lead in Pennsylvania, 53-40, among RVs in new Monmouth poll. https://t.co/FUA7EiBhTP

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) July 15, 2020



Not that you should judge polls this way, but surely the poll unskewers will be disappointed to learn that this sample is even by Party ID and Trump+5 on recalled vote

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) July 15, 2020



IIUC this saying a group of people that went for trump by 5 points in 2016 (if they voted) is now going for biden by 13

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

I'm just gonna say it: Trump actively trying to get his voters killed will backfire

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

"But Many Anticipate Secret Trump Vote" is a thin fuckin' reed in 2020.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

'11am jefferson-pilot game' is a nice detail

mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

college football, especially Bama/Auburn, is perhaps the only thing that every single Alabama voter knows and cares about, and since Tuberville doesn't have any other record to run on, it's not even gratuitous to keep dragging him about it ... chef's kiss

Brad C., Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

Kanye West has ended his presidential bid per Fox News

Kanye, we hardly knew, umm, ye.

nickn, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

wait, are we entertaining the idea that because the republican candidate has nothing of substance to run on, in the state of alabama, they might be in trouble in the election? iirc you can be an openly slimy pedophile with nothing of substance to run on and still nearly win the election as a republican

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

It's almost to your benefit, afaict.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

lol @ nickn

Blursday the Vagueteenth of Whenember (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

things that are real:

Just posted on the president’s Instagram pic.twitter.com/kAs4f3QaB0

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) July 15, 2020

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

he thinks his followers are as dumb as he is

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

remember how a few years ago this would've been a huge scandal b/c it's blatantly illegal to do this

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

most of them are! xpost

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

goya . . . chocolate wafers?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

goya coconut milk is the worst!

contorted filbert (harbl), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

chocolate wafers are popular in Latin America

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

that's ridiculous - goya has a sterling reputation for quality, all patriots love the taste

xp

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

The Best Taco Bowls Are Made With Goya Chocolate Wafers!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

I Love The Mexicans!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

most people would've forgotten about the Goya thing in a month or so but of course Trump/the GOP stupidly made it into a lifelong boycott thing.

Yerac, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

It is flabbergastingly sociopathic that he's doing this, even more so while a thousand people in this country are dying every day from a pandemic.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

I've always thought of Goya as the brand you get when they're out of Herdez and La Preferida

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

*frontline voice*

"in july 2020, the trump campaign seemed to be at an all-time low, with little hope for recovery. but then along came a little can, with a short name, packed with big flavor, and long lasting political ramifications that you're not gonna believe COMIN' UP

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

i limit my intake of Stupid Grifter Stories so i literally dont know what thats all about

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

Goya guy gave Trump money, boycott ensued, Trump doubled down.

DJI, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

tl,dr - Goya CEO is big Trump supporter and said we're "blessed" to have him as a leader; people rightfully pointed out this is dumb given Trump's treatment of the Latinx community and talked about boycotting, Goya CEO called the boycott "suppression of free speech", Trump, Teddy Cruz and others suddenly developed huge Goya boners and won't shut up about them to the point of Cruz flat out lying about his grandparents eating them in Cuba for longer than they even would have been available there

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

or what DJI said

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

xpost it might also be a regional thing due to where their headquarters is located but Goya is like the only thing I see when I buy beans.

Yerac, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

Goya guy gave Trump money, boycott ensued, Trump doubled down.

A donation would probably have slid by - he sucked Trump's dick from a Rose Garden podium. That was what sparked the boycott.

xpost - anyway, here's a data point:

NEW QUINNIPIAC National Poll. Biden leads Trump by 15% (52-37%). In June Q poll, Biden was +8. Trump's job approval is down to 36% approve, 60% disapprove.

— Larry Sabato (@LarrySabato) July 15, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

hilarious to me how the Right immediately and fervently latches on to anything or anyone famous that voices any sort of support for them, without realizing how pathetic it looks

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

The Right understands reward and punishment for political friends and foes as a fundamental tenet of politics and observes it ferociously.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

El Ebro = best frijoles negros, as I learned for the 10,000th time last night.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

I say the more boycotts the better. Facebook, Washington's football team ... go figure the thing that finally gets results is people or companies threatening to pull financial support.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

Trump's average approval rating on March 27th was 47.2%, disapproval at 49.5%, for a net of -2.3%, some of his best numbers in years. Today he's at approval of 41.5, disapproval of 56, for net of -14.5. He's backsliding.

also while Biden's polling an 8+ point lead, Hillary at this point only had a 2.7 point lead nationally and was struggling. and she wasn't against an incumbent.

None of this PROVES anything, but encouraging and proves if we do the work, it's winnable.

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

Trump losing will be like holding your bladder for the duration of a long plane landing and finally getting to the bathroom once you enter the terminal.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

well there's a pretty good chance there will be several days between the polls closing and a result, given all the postal voting, so you may want to time your bathroom trips with that in mind.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

Trump's going to declare victory after the first red state announces results

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

And then probably wet himself.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

RBG out of hospital

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

Best of all possible wishes to RBG, but let's not get too scared, because I am reliably informed that we NEVER replace a Supreme Court justice in an election year.

Mitch assured us of this. Relax.

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

How to immigration policy pic.twitter.com/qxjmIXPZkL

— Sarah Cooper (@sarahcpr) July 15, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link

I don't care how clever Sarah Cooper is (and she absolutely has been in other contexts), but I am so tired of hearing his voice even if it's meant to mock him.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

Assuming Trump loses, we probably oughta buckle up and strap on our helmets for those last two months of his presidency.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

I wonder where Bill Barr is going to land his lucrative after-AG sinecure? If he's offered a cozy academic position in a major law school I may puke.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

Might I recommend Bill Barr's face as a receptacle for your puke?

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

maybe buckle up now if you live in a "left wing" city

President Trump is planning to direct federal law enforcement “help” for Democratic-run cities that have seen a rise in violence this summer, calling them “war zones.”

In a meeting with Attorney General William Barr and other federal officials at the White House on Wednesday, the president said he’ll make a “very exciting” official announcement next week.

“The left-wing group of people that are running our cities are not doing the job that they’re supposed to be doing,” Mr. Trump said in the Oval Office, adding that he will soon announce “what we’re planning to do to help them.”...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/15/trump-plans-send-federal-authorities-cities-break-/

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

he's been threatening to help LA with law enforcment for literally years

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

but a “very exciting” official announcement!

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link

trump's already sent helpful federal officers to Portland. a couple of days ago one of them helpfully shot a 'non-lethal' projectile at a protestor spraying graffiti on the Justice Center. It hit them in the head and they were concussed and lying unconscious for quite a while before being sent to a hospital.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

New @JohnCornyn campaign video on @mjhegar: "Don't fall for the special effects — she's Elizabeth Warren on a motorcycle" #TXSEN https://t.co/RT9FWArmOO

— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) July 15, 2020

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

don't know where to put this, def not in police brutality thread, because these are not police

Militarized Federal Agents from a patchwork of outside agencies have begun policing Portland (in rented minivans vans) without the explicit approval of the mayor, the state, or local municipalities. This is what that looks like in practice: pic.twitter.com/losap4SsgI

— The Sparrow Project (@sparrowmedia) July 15, 2020

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

Would vote for Elizabeth Warren on a motorcycle, and will vote for MJ Hegar in November.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link

that video is pretty weird. who are they picking up? speculation on the thread is that it's an undercover agent extraction or some shit. where did the video come from?

akm, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

i don't think it would help in the current circumstances, and i'm not worried about the implications if biden is elder-abused by his team into picking her as VP, but you can tell they wish warren was the nominee.

they also wish trump was not the president because they keep running adverts about how bad things are.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link

he's been threatening to help LA with law enforcment for literally years

"LAPD, we'll treat you like a King!"

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link

I think you misread the content of my links

bat ain't Thad (sic), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

I wish I knew KGW was going to autoplay a fucking video when I clicked on that link while on a conference call at work

akm, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

soz doesn't autoplay for me

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

look, i'm as sorry as anyone to have to keep posting these, but

things that are real:

pic.twitter.com/Gil5hS7rFI

— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) July 15, 2020

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

pick your fucking bean, america

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

Rancho Gordo obviously

rb (soda), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

i fight for the cannellini

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

I really love Goya’s butter beans so please send alternative recommendations

Heez, Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

same here w the black bean soup, it’s a staple

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

Like I said, I stan for these. Just cook, as usual, what we criollos call a sofrito: green peppers, garlic, onion fried in olive oil before you add the beans.

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/c7fed202-ad71-4ee1-a1c2-4ae7745b520e_1.92addbc417956b505ea826af90bf34d5.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

In non-bean-related news, Parscale out (or, rather, demoted to an advisory role)

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

That is the first and, I hope, the last time I type the words "In non-bean-related news".

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link

Though "In Sean Bean-related news" is still fair game.

One does not simply purchase frijoles refritos.

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link

I make a sofrito! It’s not the Cuban black beans I can’t approximate but whatever devilry Goya is up to with that soup that gives it the nutty buttery thing.

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link

My man.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

it's kind of crazy that I have never seen these other bean brands (besides the 365) before.

Yerac, Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

yeah this brouhaha has been educational. Dunno what the fuck you people by for friojoles negros

Oh: be sure to use a bay leaf.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

by = buy

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

Goya has such a strangle on nyc. fuck a bay leaf.

Yerac, Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link

El Ebro in the Morning

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

2016, only the DNC is hacked, emails leaked in July
2020, twitter accounts of only Dems and left leaning billionaires hacked in July

There goes a big chunk of my optimism about the polls. Doesn’t matter how much of a lead Biden gets if the cards are all getting stacked for, minimally, an election that Trump can throw doubt and chaos into, or worse.

The timing and targets of this hack are just way too fucking convenient to be any bitcoin scam.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

Actual Joe Biden campaign: follows up platform negotiated with Bernie Sanders with $2 million climate and jobs plan
Joe Biden campaign in my hallucinations: Steve Schmidt helped fund some anti-Trump ads so he is awarded unilateral control of Democratic policy if Biden wins https://t.co/tptJIesgrC

— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) July 16, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

wow I really don't understand that

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link

Elon Musk is "left leaning"?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 July 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

I’d say more than he is right leaning, maybe? Point being, I didn’t see any notable right wing or GOPers targeted in that hack and it’s not like there’s a dearth of them with a ton of followers on twitter.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 July 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link

He's more libertarian

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 July 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link

Elon is absolutely a right winger

frogbs, Thursday, 16 July 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

It was done in a way to specifically avoid pissing off Trump’s DOJ, that’s all. Pathetic hack tbf, sad that Twitter didn’t have a better playbook for dealing with it

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 16 July 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link

It was nice to lose the blue checks for half an hour but bummed we didn't get:

to whoevers hacking these accounts show us elons dms

— br◎seph (@on3ness) July 15, 2020

Fetchboy, Thursday, 16 July 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

why would you fire parscale but also keep him around

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 July 2020 04:04 (three years ago) link

firing him but not allowing him to leave is the ultimate punishment

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 July 2020 04:05 (three years ago) link

lol lagoon should go viral on that one

this has been the best year fuiud (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 July 2020 04:06 (three years ago) link

why would you fire parscale but also keep him around

― mookieproof, Thursday, July 16, 2020 12:04 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

1. his company is a shell for $$$ being moved from the campaign to various family members iiuc.

2. there is no way the trump campaign has a bunch of other people who are set up to do the shady but effective ad tech parscale did before he became campaign manager. i'd be surprised if they had anyone who knows how to use excel.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 July 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link

jared

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 July 2020 06:33 (three years ago) link

he knows vlookup

fuck, he knows xlookup

let's face it, he's the thought leader

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 July 2020 06:34 (three years ago) link

*whispers* there is no xlookup, that's not possible, what has he done?

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 16 July 2020 07:27 (three years ago) link

Maganauts madly googling "pivot table" rn

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 July 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link

Dunno what the fuck you people buy for friojoles negros

whatever Benny's puts in the burrito

(RIP takeout)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 July 2020 11:34 (three years ago) link

there's literally no reaching people who think "repealing an obscure 2006 bill that intentionally bankrupted the post office" was too heavy a lift for a party that had merely 57 Senate votes in 2009

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) July 16, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 July 2020 12:44 (three years ago) link

I'm a bay leaf truther who believes they don't really add any noticeable flavor to anything.

Re: Parscale, I liked this passive aggressive dig in the WaPo:

It’s unclear what the shake-up of campaign staff will achieve given that Trump often acts on his instincts and has shown little interest in taking the steps political strategists say would help him win over undecided voters.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 July 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

I’m still chortling at a recent discussion postulating that a collective sublimated shame among the non-ride-or-die GOP has handicapped that party’s campaign vitality.

Their claim to fame is that they show no shame, so I don’t think that’s it. grab the jersey keep swinging basically.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

Jacksonville’s NBC News affiliate reports:

The convention to nominate President Donald Trump as the Republican candidate for president is going to happen in Jacksonville, but be much smaller than originally planned.

Rather than the 15,000 people originally scheduled to attend the event in Jacksonville next month, the communications director of the Republican National Convention announced Thursday that only about 2,500 people — mostly the regular delegates — will attend the first three days of the event, Aug. 24-26.

On the final night, Thursday, Aug. 27, delegates and alternates can attend with one guest as Trump delivers his acceptance speech.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link

lol parscale got demoted for dating Trump’s favorite diaper changer

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:24 (three years ago) link

RNC will take a tip from pro sports and pump recorded crowd noise and cheering in during Trump's speech.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

Gonna use the crowd noise from The KLF's "3 AM Eternal" iirc

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

Campaign mgr fired for using audio from Showtime at the Apollo, so the booing is intense

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

I'd support the RNC having a Mork & Mindy-style laugh track.

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

morbius, that Pareene tweet is in response to what?

akm, Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

not aware of anything specific, besides general "we/they can't do anything" Dem bleating

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

I read Pareene's tweet as observing that people who think that particular thought are so vanishingly few that it is nearly impossible to locate them.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

2020 is wild. https://t.co/0Qx9nMfNYS pic.twitter.com/w2uaXAFAha

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) July 16, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

Apparently the press secretary literally just said that science should not stand in the way of schools reopening.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

"Delete your account!"

"Uh, OK, thanks..."

Also, he'll be back in 2 and 2.

nickn, Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

This is an Auto Show-style demonstration, and people do not wash their hands at Auto Shows.

there’s a metaphor here alright but it’s not what they think it is https://t.co/DVCkTIEqMZ

— kilgore trout, suburban female understander (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 16, 2020

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

Levels of Thought is one of my fax RZA tracks iirc

Trump promises that over the next 8 weeks "you will see levels of detail and you will see levels of thought that a lot of people believed very strongly we didn't have in this country" pic.twitter.com/UN7VL5Gzwg

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 16, 2020

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 July 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

canny politics saving the details and thoughts to the final two months of the term

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 July 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

what a fucking idiot.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 16 July 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

he’s got a secret plan to end the war

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

...on Christmas!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link

Georgia Gov. suing Keisha Lance Bottoms (atlanta mayor) for her mask mandate. unreal.

akm, Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

good luck with that one, bitchnose

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

“It’s like stop and frisk meets Guantanamo Bay,” said attorney Juan Chavez, director of the civil rights project at the Oregon Justice Resource Center. [...] “It sounds more like abduction. It sounds like they’re kidnapping people off the streets.”

this is so enormously fucked up

https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 July 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link

So is this mainly an intimidation technique?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 July 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link

I mean not for the people actually getting thrown into vans

but yeah I guess so

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 July 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link

Hate to say it but the 2nd amendment is starting to look appealing.

Fetchboy, Friday, 17 July 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link

shooting federal officers probably wouldn't improve the situation or get us any closer to racial justice

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 17 July 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link

for people worried about ilhan omar see the final item here https://primaries.substack.com/p/issue-73. she's drowning in endorsements (including from pelosi) and she's up 66/29 in her internal polling.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 July 2020 04:56 (three years ago) link

I believe Omar to be good at and have hired people good at maths

Portland shit is legit fucked up and our House committees need to start addressing

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 July 2020 06:27 (three years ago) link

our shit mayor here could lift a damn finger rather than just submit to the fucking feds just this man's opinion

Clay, Friday, 17 July 2020 07:36 (three years ago) link

"It’s true that our health care system was not designed to handle a pandemic, but it would be more accurate to say that our system was not designed to provide health care."https://t.co/AepGye5OD9

— Laura Marsh (@lmlauramarsh) July 17, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 July 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Jamaal Bowman wins Democratic nomination for U.S. House in New York’s 16th congressional district, defeating 16-term U.S. Rep. Eliot Engel. #APracecall at 11:09 a.m. EDT. #Election2020 #NYprimary https://t.co/n6R7Rw3aYT

— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) July 17, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 17 July 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

Nice

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Friday, 17 July 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

:D

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 July 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

Pelosi next

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

Flag and god, flag and god

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 17 July 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

as good as the guy going against Pelosi seems, I don't think he's going to win.

akm, Friday, 17 July 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

looool

The difficulty of covid-era Trump messaging summed up perfectly in Pence's kicker:

"With four more years of Donald Trump in the White House, we'll make America great again... again."

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) July 17, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 July 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

Is that a threat?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 July 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

We'll keep making America great again until you are all dead

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 July 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

No surprise but White House Blocks CDC CDC director from appearing before Congress. What could go wrong?

rb (soda), Friday, 17 July 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

Are we talking about this anywhere? https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/david-shor-cancel-culture-2020-election-theory-polls.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

Read about half of it. Not buying most of it.

Nhex, Friday, 17 July 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

EXCLUSIVE: The Trump campaign is investigating campaign spending, Parscale contracts https://t.co/FenNuSzuwU

— Tom LoBianco (@tomlobianco) July 17, 2020

lol

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 17 July 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

when did businessinsider.com get paywalled?

akm, Friday, 17 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

Are we talking about this anywhere? https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/david-shor-cancel-culture-2020-election-theory-polls.html

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, July 17, 2020 2:56 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

a lot of this is in this tweet btw

Here's a quick pass of my positive and negative surprises from the last five years. I think on net I'm a little more optimistic about the future than I was in 2015 but not by very much. pic.twitter.com/Zp9gbv9x8V

— (((David Shor))) (@davidshor) May 8, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

Grifting? In the Trump campaign? wig flipped

Boring, Maryland, Friday, 17 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said on Friday he would not close gyms in his state during the COVID-19 pandemic because people who go to gyms are “in good shape.” “If you’re in good shape, you have a very, very low likelihood of ending up in significant condition as a result of the coronavirus,” said DeSantis.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 July 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

Oh Lord, Trump gets momentarily drawn out of the toady/yes-man bubble by Fox News of all places and lord it got weird. pic.twitter.com/1XiBCosMmH

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 17, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 July 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

xxp who grifts the grifters?

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 17 July 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

xp but according to Trump, exercise is bad for you and “drains” the body like a battery

brimstead, Friday, 17 July 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

David Shor got famous by getting fired. In late May, amid widespread protests over George Floyd’s murder, the 28-year-old data scientist tweeted out a study that found nonviolent demonstrations were more effective than “riots” at pushing public opinion and voter behavior leftward in 1968.

Cancelled, not-cancelled, whatever, it should be embarrassing for one of these political operative kid geniuses to tweet something like that that's so 'duh.'

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 17 July 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

fwiw he does have a more sophisticated take that is > 280 characters if you keep reading

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 July 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

Anyone talking shit on riots can kiss my left one, data or no data. I'm glad he got fired.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 17 July 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvG3is7Bm1w

Hunt3r, Friday, 17 July 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link

don't agree with all of it but I did enjoy reading that tweet about positive/negative surprises since 2015

Dan S, Friday, 17 July 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

Anyone talking shit on riots can kiss my left one, data or no data. I'm glad he got fired

I mean, do you think the Princeton professor who wrote the paper should get fired?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

Writing a paper that explains voting phenomena based on material events surrounding elections seems pretty fair. Citing that paper in an attempt to undercut and diminish the justified rage of people in a different time period, who are protesting many of the same issues as they were half a century ago, seems pretty fucked to me.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link

Writing a paper that explains voting phenomena based on material events surrounding elections seems pretty fair. Citing that paper in an attempt to undercut and diminish the justified rage of people in a different time period, who are protesting many of the same issues as they were half a century ago, seems pretty fucked to me.


Why do you think that was his goal in citing it?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

I disagree with you table. Can i have your boss’ phone number please?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

I think arguing about a 28-year-old’s opinions regarding the electoral landscape is a foredoomed clusterfuck. Especially since he likes to talk about how conservative control of the Senate and Electoral College is a done deal, but says “let’s not turn this into physics” when discussing progressive victories at the local level.

The interview also completely avoids foreign and defense policy, a category I’m sure he’d say nobody cares about, because his career coincides with the mid-to-late period of the forever war.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 18 July 2020 04:21 (three years ago) link

I’m really sad and angry that John Lewis is dead

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 18 July 2020 04:26 (three years ago) link

Why else would he cite it?

And yes, also sad about Mr. Lewis passing. Pancreatic cancer is awful, just awful.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 July 2020 11:22 (three years ago) link

Breaking: ACLU files lawsuit against Department of Homeland Security agents and US Marshals deployed in Portland, seeking a temporary restraining order to block them from assaulting press and legal observers. ACLU says it's the first of many suits https://t.co/idUUY9ouYf pic.twitter.com/rrBDMSkMAP

— CJ Ciaramella (@cjciaramella) July 17, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 July 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

The David Shor interview is way more interesting than the fact that he was fired.

jaymc, Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

I thought that interview was really interesting. His pessimism about Dems' chances in future elections seems well-grounded, even if they manage to snag this one. As ever, the root is racism.

Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

It's a good interview, don't get the complaint it doesn't touch on foreign pol. Shor wasn't asked about it, and I am sure he'd pull a reading off 2-5 studies on it if he was.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

Why else would he cite it?

Because he seems like a guy whose absolutely dominant, overwhelming interest is elections and who wins them and basically everything that crosses his path he is going to look at through the lens of "how does this interact with the thing I know about, elections?"

I mean I get the criticism that if the same guy were a painting nerd there would be something off-putting about him posting pictures of police beating protestors and saying "it reminds one of Goya"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

It's just really off-putting to me. Anyone who saw what was happening in the week or two following George Floyd's murder and then was like "bUt rIoTS w0n'T WiN tHe sUburbs" may have been right, but they also need to shut the fuck up, because their statement discounts not only valid rage but also makes the rather shaky assumption that national elections will change much for many of the working poor, most of whom are Black (per capita) in the US. It puts the onus on those who've been disenfranchised rather than on those who have the power to help the disenfranchised but won't.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

OTM

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Saturday, 18 July 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

This is a photo of Elijah Cummings, not John Lewis. pic.twitter.com/uumfIb7yW5

— Matt Viser (@mviser) July 18, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

jfc

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

I don’t know if he regrets tweeting it but he was fired and he makes no attempt to defend it in the interview fwiw.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 July 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

it is STILL his profile pic

carin' (map), Saturday, 18 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

oh marcopaws

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

nvm, looks like he finally switched it

carin' (map), Saturday, 18 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

cool saturday tweet

carin' (map), Saturday, 18 July 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

there's one obvious defense Marco can't use, and how much you want to bet he does

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 July 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

The Washington Post reports:

The Trump administration is trying to block billions of dollars for states to conduct testing and contact tracing in the upcoming coronavirus relief bill, people involved in the talks said Saturday.

The administration is also trying to block billions of dollars that GOP senators want to allocate for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and billions more for the Pentagon and State Department to address the pandemic at home and abroad, the people said.

The administration’s posture has angered some GOP senators, the officials said, and some lawmakers are trying to push back and ensure that the money stays in the bill. The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to reveal confidential deliberations, cautioned that the talks were fluid and the numbers were in flux.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/07/18/white-house-testing-budget-cdc-coronavirus/

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 July 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link

love to see GOP staffers putting stories out to make the president look bad

all cats are beautiful (silby), Saturday, 18 July 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

Is the white house trying to block funds for testing because they don't want to capture higher infection numbers?

And the CDC because Fauci won't lie correctly?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 18 July 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

Fauci isn't part of the CDC

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 July 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

Christ that Shor interview bummed me out. Not so much because of any new content (except for that part about the implications of Texas going blue.) Mostly just seeing it all laid out clearly.

lukas, Saturday, 18 July 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

Fauci isn't part of the CDC

Not sure this matters for my question, but I'll rephrase anyway.

Are they trying to deny funds to the CDC because they refuse to lie correctly?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 18 July 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

they don't want to capture higher infection numbers, yes

and if the cdc gets neither money nor statistics from hospitals, it won't be able to tell the truth even if it wants to

it's pretty amazing, really

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 July 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

Genius plan, no way that won't blow up in their faces and piss off even more people

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 18 July 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

sorry i'm not totally caught up on this thread but has anyone noted yet that lyrics that start "one thing i don't know it doesn't even matter how hard you try" are weird ones for a campaign video

Mordy, Sunday, 19 July 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

i don't know why*

Mordy, Sunday, 19 July 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

I don’t know if he regrets tweeting it but he was fired and he makes no attempt to defend it in the interview fwiw.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:17 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

He should not apologize for it. Why the fuck would he?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 19 July 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

>blue light or electric light (the table is the table) at 12:40 18 Jul 20

It's just really off-putting to me. Anyone who saw what was happening in the week or two following George Floyd's murder and then was like "bUt rIoTS w0n'T WiN tHe sUburbs" may have been right, but they also need to shut the fuck up, because their statement discounts not only valid rage but also makes the rather shaky assumption that national elections will change much for many of the working poor, most of whom are Black (per capita) in the US. It puts the onus on those who've been disenfranchised rather than on those who have the power to help the disenfranchised but won't.
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You're saying it doesn't matter to poor people who gets elected president. Seeing as the president can veto or sign any changes to say, the healthcare system, I'd disagree. And a democratic president could reinstate Obama era rules the payday lending industry rescinded by Trump. These are rules that specifically protect poor people.

Or hey, let's all be hip and cool and just say fuck it.

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. (hugo), Sunday, 19 July 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

Never said anything like that, but I'm pretty sure I saw poor people struggling under Obama and Clinton. Are there palpable differences, especially with the advent of the ACA? Yes, absolutely.

The larger point is that a disenfranchised group is being cast as their own enemy when they take from their actual enemies. Its a method of social control.

The correct conclusion of such studies, IMHO, would be that the media and the government will do anything to preserve systems of racial and class hierarchy, even if that means gaslighting the hell out of the populace

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 July 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

want to understand but don't understand your post table

Dan S, Sunday, 19 July 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link

You're saying it doesn't matter to poor people who gets elected president.

Of course it does on some level, as you pointed out. But that doesn't mean that poor people not might feel like it doesn't matter and want to lash out. Someone posted an article about middle/upper middle class African Americans (granted, not poor people) in one neighborhood in suburban Detroit and it was eye-opening their level cynicism about presidential politics. They had seen it all and basically felt that Biden getting elected wouldn't change a thing.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Sunday, 19 July 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link

enjoyed reading that article but it seemed like a microscopic view

Dan S, Sunday, 19 July 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link

Anyone who saw what was happening in the week or two following George Floyd's murder and then was like "bUt rIoTS w0n'T WiN tHe sUburbs" may have been right, but they also need to shut the fuck up, because their statement discounts not only valid rage but also makes the rather shaky assumption that national elections will change much for many of the working poor, most of whom are Black (per capita) in the US.

I get where you're coming from, but as eephus pointed out, Shor was sharing a relevant study in his capacity as a political data analyst. Not that he did so from a point of pure neutrality (after all, he's interested in helping Democrats win), but he also wasn't making a moral statement or analyzing the efficacy of the movement on its own terms. It was a data point that he found worth considering for those involved in progressive electoral politics during this cycle. The problem is that he posted it on Twitter, which flattened the context.

jaymc, Sunday, 19 July 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link

I mean I can see where people are coming from with finding it crass or ill-timed or reductive or whatver, but I was surprised that a DNC-friendly moderate thinktank fired him for it, and the fact that he's under an NDA makes me think the tweet is not the whole story.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 19 July 2020 05:09 (three years ago) link

everyone who tweets should be fired imo

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Sunday, 19 July 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

otm

all cats are beautiful (silby), Sunday, 19 July 2020 05:24 (three years ago) link

the fact that he's under an NDA makes me think the tweet is not the whole story.

I think you are probably right about this.

jaymc, Sunday, 19 July 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link

Officers appeared near the federal courthouse around 10:40 p.m. and deployed tear gas. It was unclear whether they were federal officers or Portland police.

Soon after, officers retreated into the courthouse building and protestors began barricading the doors of the building again. Some began flooding the courthouse steps, banging on the doors as they barricaded them.

A reporter from The Portland Tribune posted a social media video of federal officers striking a protester repeatedly with a baton and spraying pepper spray in his face. The protester did not seem to engage with the officers in any way and stood still as he was hit.

Close to midnight, some protesters began throwing firecrackers at the courthouse. They continued to barricade the doors of the federal courthouse.

By 12:30 a.m., demonstrators had largely abandoned the federal courthouse, instead holding a rally in the intersection of Southwest Third Avenue and Main Street, where people were giving speeches from the bed of a truck.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/saturday-evening-protests-planned-at-holladay-and-peninsula-parks.html

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 11:42 (three years ago) link

If only!

WASHINGTON — During a campaign-style speech this week in the White House Rose Garden, President Donald Trump lamented that his efforts to turn Joe Biden’s son into a political vulnerability for the Democrat had flopped.

“But Hunter — where’s Hunter?” Trump said, referencing the younger Biden’s lucrative position on the board of a Ukrainian gas company while his father was vice president. “And you all know about Burisma, but nothing happens. Nobody cares.”

It’s one of many punches by Trump that have failed to land on his Democratic rival. He has called him “sleepy Joe” and derided him as too tired and unfit to do the job. He has mocked him for a steady stream of verbal stumbles. He has painted him as a tool of China. He has linked him to a “defund the police” movement that Biden has rejected. None of it is sticking.

As a result, the president and his allies have settled on a different strategy: Paint Biden as an empty vessel for socialist radicals to exploit. Trump’s new campaign manager Bill Stepien said Tuesday, “We will expose Joe Biden as a hapless tool of the extreme left.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/unable-land-hits-biden-trump-paints-him-socialist-trojan-horse-n1234241

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

Can I vote for him?

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

As always, “You all know about xxxx, but nothing happens, nobody cares” - the continuing sad truth of the Trump experiment - is the thing they try to weaponize against their opponent.

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

“An empty vessel to exploit.”

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

Apparently he spent a significant portion of today's Fox News Sunday interview (fuck you, I ain't watching that shit) talking about how difficult the cognitive test he took was, as though it's the fucking SAT and not a test to see whether or not you have brain damage.

This is a back and forth that actually happened. pic.twitter.com/irfUpHJjzb

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) July 19, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

Race relations comes in third (10%)... Crime? Well crime is at just 1%... Also of note, more voters said Trump say Trump isn't mentally sound enough to serve as prez effectively (51%) than say the same for Biden (39%). 2/3

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) July 19, 2020



Crime, the issue the trump campaign is running on, is the most important issue to 1% of respondents. Also everyone thinks he’s nuts.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 19 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

We’re 30 years out from the Reagan crime peak, where do they think they’re gonna find voters for whom “crime” is a presidential campaign issue

all cats are beautiful (silby), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

Probably get more votes for Crime and the City Solution.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

I'm glad that it's only polling at 1% because if you survey only nextdoor respondents, every street is on fire and homes are being pillaged left and right, and you're likely to be shot to death in a robbery the minute you leave your house.

akm, Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

Nextdoor Naxis are a real problem but I don’t think even they consider crime to be a presidential issue

all cats are beautiful (silby), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

want to understand but don't understand your post table

― Dan S, Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:57 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

IMHO, anything that does the work of invalidating the disenfranchised's expression of rage at an unjust system because that rage scares more well-off, mostly white people is implying that more liberal or left-wing electoral loss can be blamed on riots rather than blamed on the shitty politics of suburban people. The view, then, casts the disenfranchised as their own enemy for daring to express rage, rather than place the blame on the inherently conservative, reactionary politics of suburban white women with regional manager husbands. It reinforces a cycle of shifting blame onto the poor for being poor.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

And that shifting of blame is a method of social control.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

I didn't used to think this but now I do: it's really important that Trump get crushed by a huge popular vote margin. The safe state arguments don't hold now. He must be humiliated.

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 18, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

dr morbius... welcome to the resistance

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

Doug Henwood otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

oh youve got a ways to go on me....

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

(what pct of the voting populace do you think knows Trump lost the popular vote in '16? surely less than half)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

Doug Henning otm.
https://doughenningproject.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/cropped-doug1.jpg?w=200

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 July 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

i meant to post this one... Some of the replies are funny.

Big if true: Trump says a Biden victory would mean the end of religion!

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 19, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

i meant to post this one... Some of the replies are funny.

Big if true: Trump says a Biden victory would mean the end of religion!

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 19, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

Rage-o-centric popular political theory 🤔

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Sunday, 19 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

welcome to 2020 polling, where the two presumed candidates running for president of the united states of america are respectively negatively polling at 51% and 39%, not with their awareness of issues domestic or abroad, moral stance or even their general fitness for the position, but for their ability to SPEAK COHERENTLY ON CAMERA FOR TEN MINUTES

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 19 July 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

This is really our fault for cheering on teens who talked an elderly guy into running for president so they could run his twittter account

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 20 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

Kanye criticizing Tubman and ranting about other things yesterday, but I thought he's said a week or two back he actually wasn't running? (yes I know, not that it matters because he won't be on the ballot anywhere anyway)

akm, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

Apparently one of his misinformed(?) spokespeople said he wasn't running, but that got walked back.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

Why would you think he won't be on the ballot anywhere?

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

He's already on the ballot in Oklahoma.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

Why would you think he won't be on the ballot anywhere?


He’s missed a bunch of deadlines

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

obviously, i mean oklahoma is key to the kanye electoral map, absolutely essential to win if he has a path

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

Ah I misunderstood the q. He will be on the ballot in >0 states

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

Colorado requires $1000, deadline 8/5
Georgia requires 5250 signatures, deadline 8/14
Iowa requires 1500 signatures, deadline 8/14
Minnesota requires 2000 signatures, deadline 8/18
Missouri requires 1000 signatures, deadline 7/27
Nevada requires 9608 signatures, deadline 8/14
New Hampshire requires 3000 signatures, deadline 9/2
Ohio requires 5000 signatures, deadline 8/5
Pennsylvania requires 5000 signatures, deadline 8/3
Virginia requires 5000 signatures, deadline 8/21
Wisconsin requires 2000 signatures, deadline 8/4

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

Not as many as you'd think based on the reporting. He's been scrambling to get on the ballot in the states with deadlines this month, but he's still eligible in 40+ states.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

Sorry, that was in response to caek saying "He's missed a bunch of deadlines."

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

A billionaire doesn't really have to be smart or mentally stable to get something done. He just needs to say that he wants it and his money makes it happen for him.

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

wait, did someone say someone with lots of money wants something to happen???

*runs toward the loudest noise, stomping all over whatever is in the way*

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

This really is just the worst motherfucking timeline.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

where do they think they’re gonna find voters for whom “crime” is a presidential campaign issue

There are millions and millions of people who think "crime" (by which they mean mugging, rape, and home invasion, not tax fraud, wage theft, and public corruption) are at all-time highs even though the rate is half what it was within their lifetimes.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

xxxx..xxpost
Sure they ought to be able to range without blame being placed on them for it.
And then watch what that leads to in election results. Unfortunately elections are decided by emotional reactions, not true justified morality.

Bnad, Monday, 20 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

rage, not range

Bnad, Monday, 20 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

Are we really going to get into the semantics of what a fuckin' "bunch" is again?

10 states is a "bunch" of states, and Oklahoma is one state where you can buy your way onto the ballot, of which there are only 3. He's trying to gather the signatures for South Carolina right now, but there are already problems where he listed places people could supply their signatures, only for people at those locations to have no idea what Ye was talking about.

He's also directing people to Docusign even though it's unclear if SC allows DocuSign to count as signatures.

It's pretty obvious that his "ground game" is disjointed and he will likely fail to get needed signatures by the deadlines in many other states.

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

President Trump on Monday said he will resume giving regular coronavirus briefings this week, reviving a practice that is controversial among some aides as infections surge across the United States. Trump told reporters in the Oval Office he would deliver a briefing at 5 p.m. on Tuesday.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

The only reason Biden shouldnt bait this camera hog into TV debates is the risk of his own verbal slapstick.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

A billionaire doesn't really have to be smart or mentally stable to get something done. He just needs to say that he wants it and his money makes it happen for him.

― Dan I., Monday, July 20, 2020 11:56 AM bookmarkflaglink

Sure, and this is why said billionaire attempted to get 132,000 signatures in FL, even hiring a staffer and team to gather the signatures, only to say "fuck it" when he realized it was too difficult and let the deadline pass, and firing the staff he just hired

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

but think about how many temp jobs that created

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

I wouldn't be shocked if he only appears on buy-in states and a handful of other scattered states

Xpost lol KM

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

Neanderthal, I really appreciate the reality check you are giving here, but I think it could be forgiven for people to really be a little on edge about things happening that "shouldn't" happen. All it takes will be Ye getting on one ballot and siphoning just enough votes for either Trump to take said state, or enough for Trump to throw an absolute shitfit about "voter fraud" and make it another sticking point, both of which could 100% be avoided by, you know, him just not running at all.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

There are so many things for us to worry about right now that I think it's perfectly reasonable to prioritize "Kanye West's Presidential run" at the bottom of the pile; for me, it's currently underneath "Getting An STI From A Toilet Seat"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

I mean, that's pretty much what I would said about Trump after his announcement.

Not that I think Kanye has any chance at all to win or even make a dent, just that - best case - it's enough of a smokescreen that the media is going to lap up that it's yet another distraction from shit we should actually be dealing with.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

To jon: there was a time I couldn't imagine anything sadder and more unlikely than being a "Trump campaign volunteer" - yeah who would work for free for a rich assclown with no realistic electoral path?

A "West campaign volunteer" would seem pretty silly to me but given all the things that have happened....

I pity the foo fighter (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

All West has to do to potentially mess with Biden's chances is get on the ballot in WI and PA.

Bnad, Monday, 20 July 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

I mean, he appeared in one poll, and in that poll, he siphoned off Trump voters. This "Kanye will steal Biden voters" is theoretical and unproven.

I'm not telling anybody what to worry about cos lord knows I can't sleep at night myself

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

If Biden's lead is as gargantuan as every poll has suggested, there's not much damage Kanye can do.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

This is bad, real bad, Michael Jackson

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

I'm not losing any sleep over Kanye, don't get me wrong, it's just not something that needed to happen at all, and only injects more chaos and uncertainty into an election that already has plenty of both.

My bigger concern, at the moment, is the "federal agents" the current president is sending to Chicago now.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

President Trump on Monday said he will resume giving regular coronavirus briefings

Someone convinced him that his Tulsa rally and AZ campaign swing were disasters and his chances of holding big rallies in TX, FL, ID, and most other 'favorable' states any time soon were almost nil. So, it's back to more two hour of rambling self-praise in the Rose Garden. Should be good. Maybe he'll start throwing Trump Steaks and Trump Water to the reporters.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

Trump, who held court at the briefings, often for more than an hour, shared the news with reporters during a morning event in the Oval Office.

“I was doing them, and we had a lot of people watching, record numbers watching in the history of cable television, and there’s never been anything like it,” Trump said.

...fuck this guy

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Trump's Homeland Security Department is making plans to deploy about 150 agents in Chicago this week, with the scope of their duty unknown. @chicagotribune with @JeremyGorner https://t.co/jKASckt7hA

— Gregory Pratt (@royalpratt) July 20, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

fascisto

"I don't need invitations by the state, state mayors, or state governors to do our job. We're going to do that, whether they like us there or not.” — acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf pic.twitter.com/Rr2P8q6Ut1

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 20, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

Chad Wolf has been taking lessons from Bill Barr.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

Unfortunately, it looks like shit is going to get ugly in Chicago.

No lie, in the early morning hours after election night, when I finally fell asleep, I had a nightmare about tanks rolling into Chicago, sent by Trump, to "clean up the scummy Democrat run cities". No tanks, yet, but I hate how prescient that particular nightmare was.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

Sorry, that was in response to caek saying "He's missed a bunch of deadlines."

― jaymc, Monday, July 20, 2020 11:56 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

true but he's also committing fairly open registration fraud afaict

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

just realized: this thread title sounds like a Killers album title.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

this looks explicitly like overtures of fascist takeover attempts on major cities to try to bully the local government and populace. fed officials/state reps need to stand up about this immediately

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

it seems pretty obvious to me that Kanye running is (if anything) a good thing, anyone brokebrained enough to vote Kanye was gonna vote Trump anyway and the idea that black people were gonna pick him over Biden never seemed to be based on anything but his race

frogbs, Monday, 20 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

choice quote in this tribune story on the deployment:


One Immigration and Customs Enforcement official in Chicago, who asked not to be named because they were not authorized to speak on the matter, confirmed the deployment was expected to take place. The official noted that the HSI agents, who are part of ICE, would not be involved in immigration or deportation matters.

ICE are the mercenaries of trump's paramilitary movement

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

Abolish ICE.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

it seems pretty obvious to me that Kanye running is (if anything) a good thing, anyone brokebrained enough to vote Kanye was gonna vote Trump anyway and the idea that black people were gonna pick him over Biden never seemed to be based on anything but his race

Even if Black people were thinking "well maybe...", having an event where he shat on Harriet Tubman's legacy took care of that concern.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

Chicago is not Portland, not hopeful how this plays out.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

i assume the real motivation here is to spur open warfare between feds and cities, create opportunities for full-on filmed firefights and on-camera murders to inflame racist/classist hatred, incite scared assholes to shoot from their porches and suppress the vote in the coming months.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

Nixon was smart enough to pull that off. You give Trump and Barr too much credidt.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

*credit

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

there is no way this thing is happening imo

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/20/florida-sheriff-gop-convention-security-373089


The sheriff of Jacksonville, Fla., said he can’t provide security for the Republican National Convention because of a lack of clear plans, adequate funding and enough law enforcement officers.

“As we're talking today, we are still not close to having some kind of plan that we can work with that makes me comfortable that we're going to keep that event and the community safe,” Duval County Sheriff Mike Williams told POLITICO.

“It’s not my event to plan, but I can just tell you that what has been proposed in my opinion is not achievable right now ... from a law enforcement standpoint, from a security standpoint.”

The controversy deals one of the biggest potential blows to Trump’s decision to hold an in-person nominating convention during a pandemic. The proposal has already been beset by concerns over safety and reports of high-profile Republicans declining to attend.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

xp it doesn't take a lot of smarts to fall into a pile of shit, then respond by throwing it at anyone nearby and it doesn't take a strategic mastermind to distract someone while they're being mugged.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

COVID is gonna likely keep schools closed at the same time that extended unemployment benefits are set to expire and campaigning starts in earnest. GOP hasn't a leg to stand on. DANGEROUS CITIES, DANGEROUS COLORED PEOPLE, LOCK UP YOUR CHILDREN has been the standard "in case of emergency" plan for these assholes since at least the beginning of mass media. The cops have made it clear they are going to stand down so that means private citizens have no recourse but self-defense and death. Gonna get worse before it gets better at this rate.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

I'm not anticipating widespread street warfare quite yet. There have to be at least a few republican senators left who will refuse to embrace that much chaos on behalf of Dear Leader.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

Trump is apparently going to resume daily covid (ie LAW AND ORDER) briefings.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/world/coronavirus-cases.html

President Trump said on Monday that he is bringing back the daily coronavirus briefings that he halted in April, a tacit acknowledgment that the public health crisis that he has sought to put behind him is still ravaging much of the country.

With cases and deaths on the rise, Mr. Trump told reporters that he would probably hold the first of the new series of briefings on Tuesday at 5 p.m. He attributed his decision to revive them not to the increasing threat of the virus but to the fact that the briefings had high television ratings.

He’s going to talk about statues isn’t he

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

President Trump said on Monday that he is bringing back the daily coronavirus briefings that he halted in April, a tacit acknowledgment that the public health crisis that he has sought to put behind him is still ravaging much of the country he is desperate for attention.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

Nixon was smart enough to pull that off. You give Trump and Barr too much credidt.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, July 20, 2020 1:40 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm reminded of something David Shor said in that interview last week: "The real inflection point in our polling was the Lafayette Park incident, when Trump used tear gas on innocent people. That’s when support for Biden shot up."

When a majority of Americans already support the protests, heavy-handed efforts to suppress them backfire.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

Which is to say, it's not just a matter of competency. Nixon tapped into a genuine silent majority. But the country done changed.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

hahaha, Kasich as your point man for 'swing' voters; let's hope he doesnt pick him for veep

Chas Pierce:

"The only reason to give Kasich a speaking role, even at a bare-bones Democratic convention, is as a walking platitude to placate the bipartisan fetishists of the chattering class. It is great that Kasich wants to work against the president*’s re-election. He should do everything he can in that regard, while recognizing that he is owed nothing from a Democratic president or Congress for the effort. If someone can demonstrate the quantifiable political value of having this specific Republican give a speech at a Democratic convention, then I will lounge corrected. Until then, John Kasich can socially distance like the rest of us."

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a33370126/joe-biden-john-kasich-dnc-moderate-strategy/

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

Pissed off Americans with a shit-ton of deadly weapons and nothing to lose. Plus, there are still concentration camps on the border

Everything will be totally fine!

beamish13, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

War against citizens in reliably blue cities is a strategy that is all downside for Trump, which means he'll probably lean into it big time.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

People need to chill out about the lineup for the convention. It’s virtual. No one will be watching. And no one remembers any of the speeches except the nominee and the vp and the nominees spouse and the empty chair. Kasich isn’t probably good for 500 votes in Ohio. Who gives a shit.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

re: Kasich

Isn't having someone from the other party speak at the convention always considered a big "get" by political dopes? Zell Miller in '04, Lieberman in '08, Bloomberg (sorta) in 2016. Also, Ron Reagan Jr., I guess.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

Kasich isn’t probably good for 500 votes in Ohio. Who gives a shit.


*is

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

IMO Kasich is only going to become a story if he starts cursing out an empty chair, otherwise everyone is going to forget he was in the room, much like what happened when he ran for President.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

Lieberman wasn’t always a Republican asshole?

beamish13, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

Isn't having someone from the other party speak at the convention always considered a big "get" by political dopes? Zell Miller in '04, Lieberman in '08, Bloomberg (sorta) in 2016. Also, Ron Reagan Jr., I guess.

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, July 20, 2020 2:45 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Exactly. It's a tradition.

I have no problem with Kasich speaking. It's not like he's writing the party platform.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

Jeez, I forgot that Lieberman spoke at the Republican convention (after having been on the Democratic ticket eight years previously). Ass.

I pity the foo fighter (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

I doubt there’s a person on Earth who won’t vote for Biden because Kasich spoke, but it’s a stupid tradition and everyone who’s ever been a Republican officeholder post-1968 should be publicly shunned like Cersei Lannister.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

Please no, I don't wanna see any more old white dick in my life

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Why do people keep saying this? https://t.co/xmANsnPlS2

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) July 20, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

The members of the Biden/Sanders unity task force -- i.e. the people with actual influence over Biden's platform https://t.co/3HSh2oo3Uz pic.twitter.com/lidqconLMm

— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) July 20, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

It's pretty obviously a separate issue and question from "Biden's platform."

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

Please no, I don't wanna see any more old white dick in my life

was gonna put this in the "out of context" thread but it's kinda not out of context in almost any situation
feels like you could use it interchangeably with "christ what an asshole" as a universal New Yorker cartoon caption

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

Many people might be less credulous than Matty about Biden's ideological rebirth given his stances of, uh, three months ago.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Please no, I don't wanna see any more old white dick in my life

my mantra since '07

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

Yet again: I don't wanna see any more old white dick in my life

The speaker roster at a convention is like a variety show. Ed Sullivan would always have a segment "for the kiddos" and another for "the young folks", with crooners and bad stand up "for the whole family", and so on. It's the Big Tent Theory in action. The pundits get to play Kremlinologist over the list and the order of speakers, which makes them happy.

You don't have to pay attention to much, if any, of it. The VP choice and first speech is probably the only marginally interesting thing we can expect, if only because Biden is old enough to die in office.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

There have to be at least a few republican senators left who will refuse to embrace that much chaos on behalf of Dear Leader.

evergreen

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

Lucy van Pelt’s arms just never get tired.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

Many people might be less credulous than Matty about Biden's ideological rebirth given his stances of, uh, three months ago.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, July 20, 2020 3:05 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

If anything, Biden has shown throughout his career that he doesn't have a lot of fixed policy stances. He's always in the middle of the party. At the height of the Clinton years, that meant supporting the Hyde Amendment and the crime bill. But as the party has moved left, so has he. Right now, there's a greater appetite within the party (not just from its left-most flank) for large-scale change, so he's riding that wave. He's probably not going to advocate for the most radical ideas, but I can't imagine him reverting to some more-conservative position if it's no longer actually popular.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

It's the least risible quality of a hack.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

if it's no longer popular profitable

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

not being flip—these things overlap from time to time

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

I didn’t realize that July 2019 was the height of the Clinton era tbh

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

The idea that he’s been an ideological chameleon just following others’ lead is horseshit. He didn’t ‘move left with the party’ as evidenced by his primary campaign in the deep dark past of... March.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

I understand, milo. If Biden wins, he'll call for a new NAFTA, wonder why the Dem House and Senate haven't proposed a new crime bill, and nominate a moderate Republican to the Supreme Court on the advice of Vice President-Elect Kasich.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

“His only real interest is political expediency” would make it more likely for him to kowtow to conservative backers, anyway. Then he can get things done with his grand bargains.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

mmhmm I see

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link

Presidency's gonna be dissolved anyway

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

xp - yes, that’s an unbelievable thought for the guy who last month offered up increasIng police funding by $300bn. Really reading the mood of Democratic voters and responding appropriately.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

Like Obama, Biden is essentially a 1970’s Republican

beamish13, Monday, 20 July 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

how often is this argument going to happen

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

who's kerry duggan, is she the mom from that Holy Shit Sixteen Children show on tlc

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

remember them

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

how often is this argument going to happen

Every 12 hours until November, and every 24 hours thereafter.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

it's as if a Bidensignal goes out in the sky for milo's benefit.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

Biden is essentially a 1970’s Republican

1970s Republicans came in a lot of flavors, from Goldwater and Reagan to Tom McCall, Oregon's governor, who held a state-sponsored three day rock music festival smaller than - but similar to - Woodstock, including the drugs and nudity.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

it's as if a Bidensignal goes out in the sky for milo's benefit.

More a “someone posted another dumb Yglesias take” signal.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

no, the dumb take there was the idea that republicans will "have 10x more influence on Biden and the DNC than the entire progressive wing," which is so stupid that only the #neverbiden crowd could believe it

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

I’m sure that Jay Caspian King meant that as a literal percentage, being a measurable statistic and all.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link

Police activity is being reported at Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder’s farm in Perry County and the U.S. Attorney’s office said it is holding a 2:30 p.m. press conference today related to $60 million in bribes paid to a state official and associates.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Chris Hoffman and U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Ohio David DeVillers are expected to brief the press on a federal racketeering case, a news advisory says.

Householder, a farmer and businessman in Glenford, has led the GOP-controlled Ohio House since January 2019. He previously held the speaker’s gavel 2001 to 2004 but left due to term limits....

https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/breaking-news-fbi-agents-are-at-ohio-house-speaker-larry-householders-farm/JCKHFEK4ZFH5HJF5O4MCP3BY2M/

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

wow.

Larry Householder came to hold the most power in THE Ohio state House, and then he went mad with power

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

Lol in this picture the guy is giving Traficant a run for his money for "guy most likely to be corrupt."
https://www.daytondailynews.com/resizer/8GW1uXAscGBf2iqiuzBoyT6Bz_8=/1066x600/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/coxohio/IKSRQNY2DWJC52R3CGTJK2HJDA.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

You don’t get those rolls unless you’re swimming in dirty money that’s for sure

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

Illinois speaker of the house seems to be on borrowed time as well.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

$60 million is some clown shit. At that point, you're basically screaming "ARREST ME PLZ"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Even for Ohio politics this is just carelessness. The nuclear angle is not confirmed as yet but I suspect that's what it is. https://t.co/iilOtFVtol

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) July 21, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

Idk I admire him holding out for a cool 60 mil, most of these machine freaks can be had for like 100 grand and a rub and tug at a Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

upgrading Ohio Republican corruption from the Mark Hanna/McKinley days

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

A million here, a million there... pretty soon you're talkin about real money

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

what are the most corrupt state governments? NY/RI/OH/IL pop to mind, but maybe i just haven't heard enough about FL/WI/NC etc

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

Florida isn't corrupt, just moronic.

The charter school racket might rank closest.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

Rick Scott was kind of inherently corrupt coming in, he didn't require the state to take him there.

something to be said about how we elected a guy whose company was fined for Medicare fraud, but hey, the other guy was A LIBRUL

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

As a neighbor, I don't get the sense that Wisconsin is so much corrupt as it is just ground zero for GOP efforts to flip what remains of the blue state Midwest.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

what are the most corrupt state governments? NY/RI/OH/IL pop to mind, but maybe i just haven't heard enough about FL/WI/NC etc

*raises hand, waves from NJ*

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

Fascinating that Chris Christie somehow isn’t in prison over the bridge thing

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

here's a fun one:

As the number of coronavirus cases continues to surge, nearly three-quarters of Americans say the behavior of their fellow citizens is making the pandemic worse, according to new Axios-Ipsos polling.

The survey finds that 74 percent of Americans overall feel that way. Among Democrats, the number is even higher: 83 percent. Meanwhile, 65 percent of Republicans think other Americans are making things worse.

The same survey, which was released Tuesday, also finds that nearly a third of Americans (31 percent) think the actual death toll from the pandemic is less than what is being officially reported.

Republicans (59 percent) and people who get most of their political information from Fox News (61 percent) are the most likely to say that the real number of deaths is less than the official count, according to the polling. Meanwhile, most Democrats (61 percent) believe the real toll of the pandemic is greater than what has been officially reported.

as usual, the ~30% of the country that makes up the core of trump morons believes the exact opposite of the truth

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/axios_covid-19_w17-v2.jpg

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

all them dead bodies piled up in mounds

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

You'd think those Republicans would see all the bodies piled up, given the prominence of all those FEMA death camps.

Oh, wait, wrong president.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

more than half the population is abnormal

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

FBI Special Agent in Charge Chris Hoffman

not the point I know but "Special Agent in Charge" is an actual position?? It sounds like something my kid would make up

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

Apropos of not much, and 10 days early, but I nominate "I'll be right someday" for August thread title.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

what are the most corrupt state governments? NY/RI/OH/IL pop to mind, but maybe i just haven't heard enough about FL/WI/NC etc

I think WI and NC are outstandingly corrupt in the political dimension (undercutting separation of powers, lame-duck skulduggery, voter suppression, etc.) but WI pols at least are not known for the refrigerator-full-of-cash style of corruption.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

the FBI Special Agent in Charge reports directly to the G.R.O.S.S. Dictator-for-Life, iirc

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

Special Agent In Charge sounds like a Kevin James movie

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

sounds better in the original German etc etc

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

State-level we're merely notable, tho not noteworthy. The city of Philadelphia, however, easily makes top 5 most corrupt cities.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

the level of ongoing, insane corruption in city and state government is perhaps the most surprising thing about the US to me now that i've been here for a few years. real failed state stuff. on another level to anything i've seen in any other country, but it's considered completely normal here.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

Frank Rizzo taught me everything I needed to know about Philadelphia's city government.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

the partisan polarization is why. when state and local governments are always run by members of the same party, incumbency is an even bigger hurdle for primary challengers to overcome, and any sort of accountability that's supposed to happen at the ballot box erodes to almost nothing.

DC is seeing more of its old machine politicians thrown out because the demographics are changing, and the new-ish voters are much less trusting of the characters who've been in charge.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

don't worry, the thriving local news industry will find the wrongdoers.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

The Washington Post still loves the old incumbents lol

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

the western us has been ruled by real estate interests and has been since the louisiana purchase, "government" exists to facilitate that

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

I grew up during Wilson Goode's Philly, when the Dem mayor proved he could be both corrupt *and* bomb his own city.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

You want to talk about failed state stuff?

Philly's sanitation workers have been getting infected with Covid at alarming rates, but aren't given PPE or hazard pay for working long shifts during this crisis, when more residential trash has been being produced due to more people staying at home.

As a result, many of these sanitation workers, if not ill, are calling off work, because they're working 7-14 days in a row for 12 hours on trucks that don't have AC.

The city won't give them hazard pay or PPE, but is considering hiring private services to deal with trash.

In the meantime, our garbage day is Friday. We were told to delay one day, so Saturday. It's now Tuesday, it's been 90+ Fahrenheit every day for the past week, and none of the garbage has been collected. None of it, and no answers as to when it will be collected so that people could plan for these circumstances. No communication. Nothing.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

I was born in 84, so don't remember much of Rizzo or Goode except their horrific legacies.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

on twitter recently i saw some veteran pol mention that at no level of government had he ever seen 'lobbying' more effective than that by real estate developers and car dealerships in albany, ny

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

oof re: trash. i bet joe bologna feels like he's back in the old country.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

It smells like hotdog water and diapers everywhere.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

he finally became president

THE NOTE: The president is displaying a new tone and a new level of engagement, after aides and allies have pleaded with him to recognize the gravity of the moment, @rickklein writes. https://t.co/8giw8IfiE3

— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) July 21, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

It smells like hotdog water and diapers everywhere.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, July 21, 2020

^^ best line from The Waste Land imo

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

Key graf:

Sixty-three percent of Americans support the Black Lives Matter movement and a record 69% -- the most by far in 32 years of polling -- say Black people and other minorities are denied equal treatment in the criminal justice system, two of several signs of deep changes in public attitudes on racial discrimination. These views don't necessarily translate into majority preferences on policy -- 55% oppose reducing police funding in favor of more social services, for instance, with 40% in favor. Nonetheless, this ABC News/Washington Post poll finds substantial shifts in how Americans view underlying issues of racial justice.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

stoked to hear about LAW AND ORDER/STATUES in this afternoon's global pandemic briefing.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

BLM is insanely popular and 1% of people think crime is the most important issue in this election. a president who was more trusted might be able to bend reality and increase that 1%, but his other problem is that he is completely untrusted! no one believes anything he says!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

There's also this, which is just fabulous news
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/20/trump-john-yoo-lawyer-torture-waterboarding?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR1Suv5X1cDAJcx4bc4kiPNMXZLp7T3iphNbp421Jt5kTTPRm7tYh6TRgyM

John Yoo told the Guardian he has been talking to White House officials about his view that a recent supreme court ruling on immigration would allow Trump to issue executive orders on whether to apply existing federal laws.

“If the court really believes what it just did, then it just handed President Trump a great deal of power, too,” Yoo, a professor at Berkeley Law, said.

“The supreme court has said President Obama could [choose not to] enforce immigration laws for about 2 million cases. And why can’t the Trump administration do something similar with immigration – create its own … program, but it could do it in areas beyond that, like healthcare, tax policy, criminal justice, inner city policy. I talked to them a fair amount about cities, because of the disorder.”

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

Snowflake liberal Berkeley professor John Yoo

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

I knew that fuckface's name sounded familiar. And of course found a way to blame Obama in there!

Nhex, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

Yoo hate to see it.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

It smells like hotdog water and diapers everywhere

"sixth borough of NYC"

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

It just came to my realization that Chad Wolf is both a Chad and a Wolf.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

Well I had my money on law and order but sure


The president on Ghislaine Maxwell — "I just wish her well, frankly."

— Chris Megerian (@ChrisMegerian) July 21, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

Game recognize game https://t.co/U1pFnJjwOv

— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) July 21, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

nyt loves the sober tone

And the Trump virus briefing wraps up after just about 35 minutes. POTUS seems to have absorbed -- for now -- that he needs a major reboot to save his campaign.

His tone was sober, he acknowledged the need for masks, that things will get worse before they get better.

— Trip Gabriel (@tripgabriel) July 21, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

He kept saying "China Virus" tho.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

China Virus is Trump's "sober" way of talking about the Kung Flu

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

lol "Trip" Gabriel deleted the Tweet.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

the ratio was cancelling him

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

lol the NYT even changed the lede for its story.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

the coronavirus spending plan seems to be in some disarray

A major intraparty rift widened between the White House and Senate Republicans on Tuesday as they stumbled to formulate a unified coronavirus budget plan, lacking agreement on policy goals, spending parameters, and even deadlines.

The Republican and White House position changed multiple times as the day went on, with some GOP lawmakers refusing to rally behind President Trump’s demand for a payroll tax cut while others worked to convince White House emissaries that more money was needed for testing and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Complicating matters, other Republican lawmakers appeared mortified about the growing size of the spending bill, leading to bickering over which policies to remove and warning that miscalculations could allow Democrats to seize control of the White House and Senate in November.

“What in the hell are we doing,” Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) asked his colleagues at the lunch with White House officials, according to several participants who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the exchange. Cruz was incensed at the push among his colleagues to boost spending levels.

The whole process now appears likely to spill into August, something the White House and congressional Democrats had hoped to avoid, because it would mean more than 20 million Americans would lose emergency unemployment benefits when they expire at the end of this month. They have not mapped out a plan for what would happen to these people as the pandemic’s turmoil continues to weigh on the U.S. economy.

Part of the problem stemmed from the White House’s failure to go into the talks with a preset strategy or a list of proposals that they knew GOP lawmakers would rally behind. This miscalculation created immediate problems. Numerous demands the White House had tried to formulate over the weekend were erased within hours.

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Monday that the goal was to keep the spending bill around $1 trillion, but by Tuesday he had abandoned that. White House officials also indicated they would no longer push for cuts to testing and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And after a barrage of criticism of President Trump’s tax cut demand, White House officials stopped trying to press the matter.

White House, GOP in disarray over coronavirus spending plan as deadline nears on expiring emergency aid

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

I read that story twenty minutes ago and had to stop -- too fucking long, lots of detritus.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

Part of the problem stemmed from the White House’s failure to go into the talks with a preset strategy or a list of proposals

So, it's a day ending in "y"?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

my favorite part was getting punk'd by the “What in the hell are we doing" ted cruz quote. i was prepared to accept that it was a broken clock is right twice a day situation, until the paragraph clarifies that he was mad because more money was being spent to help people

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

which is unacceptable

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

imagine being in government and getting mad at spending money. i sure as fuck can't

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link

getting mad at spending money for anything that isn't fascist cosplay, i get it now

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

"And we'll put out in some cases just burning embers. We also have burning embers. We have embers and we do have flames. Florida became more flame like, but it's -- it's going to be under control."

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link

We’ve been clear that we will take strong enforcement action on behavior that has the potential to lead to offline harm. In line with this approach, this week we are taking further action on so-called ‘QAnon’ activity across the service.

— Twitter Safety (@TwitterSafety) July 22, 2020

that sensation you feel is the quickening

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

listen, i'm not necessarily saying this is true and i just think it's interesting, but...didn't Q predict exactly this?

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link

they're pumped already so ... yes?!

The QAnon Prayer Wall is split over how to handle President Trump sending well wishes to Ghislaine Maxwell.

One post: "some anons need to go sit at the kids table and not question 5D Trump plays"

Another: "So, like, nothing is adding up now. Wtf just happened?" pic.twitter.com/LD71ztsFM8

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) July 21, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link

I just read the phrase QAnon Prayer Wall and now all I can think is

https://media1.tenor.com/images/29a2467b582f8f25fa2ff6d4a243e6e0/tenor.gif?itemid=5319799

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

Would be awesome if all the Q worshippers were snatched up by Q, the Winged Serpent.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link

love my junior senator!

Rick Scott’s grandchildren are going to be distance learning so they are safe he said today. pic.twitter.com/LERcWeZNHG

— Daniel Uhlfelder (@DWUhlfelderLaw) July 21, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:38 (three years ago) link

read that fast and thought it said Rick Scott said he is going to be distance murdered today.

now i'm sad

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link

Steven Seagal In...DISTANCE MURDER

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

The fact that there is any human being, let alone a group of them, that thinks there is such a thing as a “5D Trump play” makes me want to explode.

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link

he's playing Hungry Hungry Hippos with a Mouse Trap board

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link

more details are coming out about the ohio / Householder situation. this is a decent recount:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fck-them-over-later-inside-the-massive-alleged-bribery-scheme-rocking-ohio

the existence and exploitation of 501(c)4 is key:

In recorded phone calls, the defendants allegedly discussed the advantages of bankrolling their operation with a 501(c)4. “You don’t have to be afraid of anyone,” Clark allegedly told Householder in one recorded call, discussing the advantages of a group that didn’t have to disclose its donors to election authorities.

if that doesn't jump out to you, i highly recommend reading jane mayer's Dark Money. i really hope this ohio scandal helps spur ANY sort of action on election/campaign finance reform.

according to special agent dale cooper in charge, it's not close to over - “There’s going to be a lot of busy FBI agents and AUSAs here in the Southern District of Ohio.”

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link

that's quite the read. damn! sounds like a coen brothers movie!

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link

Chad Wolf will be assistant managing Whataburger next year, and some American hero will accidentally lock him in the walk-in freezer

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link

so where are these Qanon dummies going to go now that they've all been banned and filtered out of Twitter? Will this shit finally die or are they on some other platform tying Twitter together with Trump wishing Maxwell 'well?

akm, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

they're on ICQAnon

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

There's always a new platform.

This might finally be Parler's moment.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

impeach Barr

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link

^ YES!

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link

FUUUUUCK this guy. I hope a piano falls on him.

Scoop: James Comey to release new book in January

In a new book 10 days before the inauguration, former FBI Director James Comey will take aim at politicization of the Justice Department under President Trump, who fired him.

"Saving Justice: Truth, Transparency, and Trust," out Jan. 12, is a follow-up to Comey's No. 1 New York Times bestseller, "A Higher Loyalty." A press release from Comey’s publisher, Flatiron, says he'll also discuss his career prosecuting mobsters in New York. Comey famously compared Trump to a mob boss in his last book.

The state of play: Comey has kept a relatively low profile since his last book.

He has written occasional op-eds and hot tweets, but resisted numerous invitations to appear on TV.

Comey envisions the new book as an effort to remind Americans about the core principles of the justice system and how to rebuild them under what he hopes will be a new administration.

The publisher calls it "a clarion call for a return to non-partisan law enforcement centered on American values."

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

Make that two pianos, one just for the "hot tweets."

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

God bless you for finding a way to make some bank from this clusterfuck, James! It's almost as if you're part of his administration!

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

getting these two results among the same respondents seems significant

New TX @QuinnipiacPoll: Biden 45, Trump 44

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) July 22, 2020


Texas Senate GE:
John Cornyn (R-inc) 47% (+9)
M.J. Hegar (D) 38%@QuinnipiacPoll 7/16-20https://t.co/xfGNohcDYU #TXsen

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) July 22, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

check out the Rasmussen (!) poll from Ohio:

OHIO
Biden 47% (+4)
Trump 43%@Rasmussen_Poll/@theamgreatness 7/15-16https://t.co/JytrKulilk

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) July 21, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

lol so that's more like an 8 or 9 point lead then

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

Dudes

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

I think Biden might have a chance

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

let's do this again tomorrow

rb (soda), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

I wonder if future presidential campaigns will utilize the "taking a several month long nap" strategy that seems to be working here

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

depends on whether future incumbents are legendary ignoramuses or not

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

unsure where else to put this as I don't think we have a US law and prosecution thread but it's a riveting and heartbreaking read
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/07/21/they-agreed-to-meet-their-mother-s-killer-then-tragedy-struck-again

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

getting these two results among the same respondents seems significant

The UT-Tyler poll from a couple of weeks ago showed an even greater split between the presidential and Senate races: Biden +5 and Cornyn +13 (vs. Hegar, though she hadn't actually won the primary yet). In both that poll and the new Quinnipiac one, independents are deadlocked in the Senate race but break toward Biden by like +20.

jaymc, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

People hate politicians, but their local guy's all right, not like the rest of those scum.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

All 50

I want all 50 fucking states.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

Navy vet seen in viral vid clashing w/federal officers in Portland tells @ABC he wants to use attention on him "to refocus this whole discussion back to Black Lives Matter."

“If I had been a black veteran...do you think I would have gotten as much attention as I did?” pic.twitter.com/OZHsFCqkE3

— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) July 22, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

That statement from the US Marshals at the end is so transparently horseshit.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

Rooster Cogburn wept.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

i realize this is exactly what he's asking people not to do (focus on a single white guy avatar), but he seems like a good guy.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:40 (three years ago) link

So the federal law enforcement surge in Chicago, is this in response to the protests or to other violent crime in Chicago? If it's in response to existing violent crime, will these officers be doing any actual policing to curb violent crime or will they be tear gassing protesters? It's ok, I know these questions don't have any logical answer.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

Protests and no. They’re just meat for Trump’s moron base that he’s cracking down on THOSE people.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

Chicago does sound like a crazy warzone right now. Something like 80 people shot since last Friday!

DJI, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

No doubt an assortment of federal troops from a hodgepodge of agencies is well equipped and trained to deal effectively with gang violence. I'm looking forward to this utter clusterfuck.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

As I understand it, Lightfoot has been very cautious about what kind of "help" she wants, while Pritzker has been at least as suspicious. Regardless, let's see where these feds pop up. It's a very big city and the violence is by and large limited to certain areas and neighborhoods. Given that Asshole always does the wrong thing, I wouldn't be shocked if these 150 fed folks were directed to protect Columbus statues (and bait protestors) rather than actually assist in suppressing gang violence.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link

like it matters whether she endorses him or not


Susan Collins refuses to endorse Trump because, "I have a difficult race. And I am concentrating my efforts on that race," she says https://t.co/FLz5lyQ8oB

— Essenviews - Demand The Truth (@essenviews) July 22, 2020

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link

wow, her Tianenman Square

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link

"Tianenman Square" is an anagram for "so brave."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link

Profiles in Meh-rage.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 July 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link

august thread title: person, woman, man, camera, tv

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 July 2020 05:33 (three years ago) link

oh yes pls do

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Thursday, 23 July 2020 06:59 (three years ago) link

just hope I'll be able to remember it

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 23 July 2020 11:18 (three years ago) link

you get extra points if you do

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 July 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link

We should have a rolling "next month's thread title" thread.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:01 (three years ago) link

Good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:01 (three years ago) link

We should have a rolling "next month's thread title" thread.

Great, so we can argue about what THAT thread should be called.

Then there could be a "rolling 'next month's thread title' thread title thread."

Please, Hammurabi, don't hurt 'em (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

...into the shitbin

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link

The Washington Post reports:

Senate Republicans have cast aside one of President Trump’s key demands in their emerging coronavirus stimulus package, refusing to include a payroll tax cut in their opening offer to Democrats, which Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is aiming to unveil on Thursday.

Their proposal also would slash enhanced unemployment benefits for millions of workers — even as the Labor Department reported Thursday that weekly unemployment claims had risen for the first time in four months, to 1.4 million last week.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

it continues to amaze me (i know) that he continued to push for those payroll tax cuts, both now and a few months ago in the first round, even though they only benefit people with jobs! for legislation seemingly intended to help unemployed people! lol! even to the point of calling up his pal Arthur Laffer to tell him and others what a great idea it was for the economy! seriously man, lol! fuck!

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

they must be really confident that they can cheat their way back into power in November

frogbs, Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/us/portland-protests-mayor/index.html

Mayor Ted Wheeler was tear gassed in downtown Portland early Thursday morning, according to video and posts on Twitter from a New York Times journalist.
The video shows Wheeler, wearing goggles and a face mask amid a crowd of people, hold his nose and close his eyes in distress as a cloud of tear gas drifts by him.
"It stings. It's hard to breathe. I can tell you with 100% honesty I saw nothing that provoked this response," Wheeler said to the Times camera. "I'm not afraid but I am pissed off."
It's unknown at this time who is responsible for deploying the tear gas and there is nothing to indicate the mayor was targeted. Portland Police said they did not deploy any CS gas, a commonly used type of tear gas.
CNN has reached out to the mayor's office for additional comment.
The video appeared to come after Wheeler joined crowds to listen to protesters and answer their questions in response to violent clashes between demonstrators and federal forces, whose camouflage, troop-like uniforms and aggressive tactics have exacerbated the protests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBZRK8Zvd4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

the most infuriating thing about this are the scores of Republicans using this footage in their re-election ads claiming that "this would be Joe Biden's America"

frogbs, Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

this IS donald trumps america!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

https://youtu.be/Vey7GKNpl4Q

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link

"It stings. It's hard to breathe. I can tell you with 100% honesty I saw nothing that provoked this response," Wheeler said to the Times camera. "I'm not afraid but I am pissed off."

i'm not sure i've ever seen/read something like this, in the US, at least.

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

the mayor saying that, i mean

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

McCheese iirc

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

so wheeler has nothing to say when portland cops tear-gas its residents, but shows up to get gassed by the feds for a photo op

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

Susan Collins, doing something useful for once (whether the bill will go anywhere or not is a separate issue):

I joined the @napshq podcast to discuss a bill @SenFeinstein & I authored that would provide USPS with emergency financial relief during the pandemic & help keep its employees safe. COVID-19 has changed our daily lives, & USPS is needed now more than ever.https://t.co/wNS68ScvT3

— Sen. Susan Collins (@SenatorCollins) July 23, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

so nice of Senate GOP to kind of purposefully say they wouldn't entertain talks on a new relief bill until July, until we were sure we needed it, and now here we are with the Federal Unemployment about to expire, and they realize they're far apart with the white House, and probably with the House, and whatever they pass will probably now pass in late August, nice and late and not in time to help anybody.

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

Indicted 5 decades apart! That's a career, even for Philly.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/ozzie-myers-indicted-voter-fraud-philadelphia-domenick-demuro-abscam-20200723.html

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

Okay, I just discovered the origin of 'person, woman, man, camera, tv' as mentioned upthread and...just...goddamn motherfucking holy shit. It's like crowing because you managed to get through a day without pissing yourself more than once.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

they call him Country cos he's in-continent

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

that's next week xp

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

Infrastructure of Incontinence Week

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

what year is it

The Suburban Housewives of America must read this article. Biden will destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream. I will preserve it, and make it even better! https://t.co/1NzbR57Oe6

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 23, 2020

frogbs, Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

is The Suburban Housewives of America a club like Daughters of the American Revolution

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

'person, woman, man, camera, tv'

I liked the Echobelly version better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwY-wOiDhrw

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

The Suburban Housewives of America must read this article

premiering this fall on Bravo

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

starring Terri Hatcher and Susan Sarandon

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

is it wrong that I really, REALLY want someone to cast Susan Sarandon and Yvette Nicole Brown in the same project and make them do like 500 scenes together

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

activate the Burb Signal

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

Shirley voice: "mmmMMMM"

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

uhh this Qunnipiac Florida poll:

In the race for the White House, former Vice President Joe Biden opens up a big lead over President Trump. Voters back Biden 51 - 38 percent over Trump. In an April 22nd poll, it was close with Biden at 46 percent and Trump at 42 percent.

Democrats back Biden 89 - 2 percent, independents back Biden 48 - 32 percent, compared to 44 - 37 percent in April, and Republicans back Trump 88 - 10 percent.

https://poll.qu.edu/florida/release-detail?ReleaseID=3668

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

Dag.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

Republicans are the problem. Trump is just a symptom.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

I liked the Echobelly version better

Ha, I thought of this, too

jaymc, Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Republicans are the problem. Trump is just a symptom simpleton.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

oh I just realized it isn't an org, just an example of his Bizarro Capitalization

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Republicans are the problem. Floridians are human mildew

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

is The Suburban Housewives of America a club like Daughters of the American Revolution

somewhat fewer lesbians

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

'person, woman, man, camera, tv'

as someone on twitter pointed out, he chose those nouns the same way verbal kint chose his names

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link

lol

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

GOP plan imo
1) spend the next 4 months exacerbating the looming recession
2) lay the blame at Biden’s feet the day he swears in. Media goes along.
3) slay in the midterms
4) Hawley/ Haley ticket steamrolls into office 2024
5) DHS Gestapo already in place because
Congress “wouldn’t let” Biden get rid of them when he was elected

Hell yeah brotehr it’s on

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

Will, you forgot that instead of unemployment, food stamps, or any sort of works program, all adult Americans will be getting $100 gift cards to Amazon every month, as well as $50 worth of coupons for the local McDonalds.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

Why isn't anyone one else's mind leaping to

http://images.45cat.com/the-godfathers-birth-school-work-death-short-version-epic-s.jpg

Please, Hammurabi, don't hurt 'em (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

I first thought of "a knife, a fork, a bottle, a cork."

nickn, Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

eat, sleep, vote, repeat

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 July 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

I was thinking more along these lines

https://youtu.be/zEasSgbgRK0

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 23 July 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

this guy's really going for it, huh

Inbox: Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) introduced the Saving American History Act of 2020, a bill that would prohibit the use of federal funds to teach the 1619 Project by K-12 schools or school districts.

— Niels Lesniewski (@nielslesniewski) July 23, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 July 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link

the Oh No You Don't, We're Not Changing One Single Thing About This Glorious Nation Act of 2020

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 23 July 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/UBU0mM5.jpg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 July 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link

there is no fucking way they said "person, man, woman, camera, tv" to him; that's just the only concepts he can comfortably summon up meaning behind as they relate to him personally.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 July 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link

nah, he just said the things he was looking at in that moment

as someone on twitter pointed out, he chose those nouns the same way verbal kint chose his names

― mookieproof, Friday, July 24, 2020 6:08 AM (two hours ago)

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 23 July 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link

the Trinidad James freestyle method

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 July 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link

ah, missed that post.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 July 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/S9rDaus97P

— Seán Collins (@SeanCollinsSTL) July 23, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 July 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

the Trinidad James freestyle method

― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal

Lol

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 23 July 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

fix yr time zone sic

mookieproof, Friday, 24 July 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

fix YOUR time zone

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 24 July 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

i want my street cat mondays properly tagged dammit

mookieproof, Friday, 24 July 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link

This guy is such a magnificent idiot https://t.co/509a5s6gfZ

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 23, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 July 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

that's right, stephen miller's dad, you tell it

A White House spokesperson says Stephen Miller’s grandmother "did not pass away from COVID.” Even when shown a death certificate that says her death was a result of COVID-19, the White House called the claim "categorically false.” https://t.co/HEF6ziclYo

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) July 23, 2020

also good lord what a fucked up time

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 July 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link

actual lol

Trump: The northeast has become very clean. The country is in very good shape, other than if you look South and West pic.twitter.com/6hfaeRSCp6

— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) July 23, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 July 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

fuck him, not funny

Dan S, Friday, 24 July 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/obBZYVk.jpg

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 July 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link

Fred Flintstone w gigantism

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 July 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link

I don’t normally post on this thread (or my reporting) but figured this might be of interest to some of you: https://in.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-politics-1mdb-goldmansachs-idINKCN24P14L

It’s an incredibly huge deal, likely the biggest settlement GS has ever agreed to (anything to avoid admitting guilt) and they will likely pay more to settle investigations in the US too.

the whole story is insane btw - massive international corruption that led to probes in at least six countries, brought down our PM, and involves Saudi and UAE royalty, Elliott Broidy, Leonardo DiCaprio and the film The Wolf of Wall Street and I’m not even close to scratching the surface of it. Dirty Money season 2, episode 2 on netflix is a decent if not exhaustive overview.

Roz, Friday, 24 July 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

Great article!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 July 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

Wolf of Wall Street was literally made with stolen money?

A little too meta, if you ask me.

jmm, Friday, 24 July 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

wow this is wild

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 24 July 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

Man I can’t believe how little coverage this got in the states. It’s easily the biggest financial scandal in the world.

Wolf of Wall Street was literally made with stolen money?

Yeah, this is what the titular wolf had to say about it https://www.finews.com/news/english-news/25957-jordan-belfort-wolf-of-wall-street-switzerland-speeches-donald-trump-greg-coleman-3

Do you have an example of running the other way in your post-prison life?

If you look at the movie, for instance: the movie’s a huge success, and then it turns out the guys who financed it were criminals. And this guy Jho Low. Leo (Leonardo DiCaprio, who stars as Belfort in «Wolf») got sucked in. Leo’s an honest guy. But I met these guys, and said to Anne, ‘these guys are fucking criminals’.

And then I met them at the launch party. They flew me to Cannes four or five months after they bought the movie and they wanted to announce it in Cannes. It hadn't even gone into production yet, and they threw a launch party. They must have spent $3 million on a launch party. They flew in Kayne West, and I said to Anne, ‘this is a fucking scam, anybody who does this has stolen money.‘ You wouldn't spend money you worked for like that.’

Roz, Friday, 24 July 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

And then there’s this crazy shit: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/09/arts/jho-low-1mdb-assets-piano.html

Roz, Friday, 24 July 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

i heard about that story a couple of times in matt levine's newsletter but nowhere else. insane stuff! great piece roz.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 July 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

thanks!

I forgot, there’s also this handy explainer I wrote last year: ‪https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-politics-mahathir-1mdb-expla-idUSKBN1YE0KS

Roz, Friday, 24 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

yeah, great stuff roz! and yes, i had not heard a single word about this until this morning, so thanks for your work on it

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 July 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

that’s crazy - I’ve been covering it for about five years now and it just never ends. Outside Malaysia, i find it’s one of those things that people are either really familiar with (because they work in finance/legal) or haven’t heard about at all.

Roz, Friday, 24 July 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

tbrwu I have hardly ever heard of anything at all at this point

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

A Yacht, a Monet, a See-Through Piano

tbf I thought this was just another thing on Trump's competency test

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

A Yacht, a Monet, a See-Through Piano, Panama!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

Madam I am Corrupt

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

Quote from White House @PresSec: "[Trump] is also appalled by cancel culture... we saw a few weeks ago that Paw Patrol, a cartoon show about cops, was canceled. COPS was canceled. Live PD was canceled. Lego halted sales of their lego city police station. It's really unfortunate."

— Andrew Solender (@AndrewSolender) July 24, 2020

I want this to end

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

we saw a few weeks ago that Paw Patrol, a cartoon show about cops, was canceled.

i fuckin wish!!!!!

frogbs, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

First they came for paw patrol...

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

xp Goldman/1MDB scandal is really amazing, thanks for the flag. the initial settlement article does a bad job of context really, so also thanks for follow up-

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

class action suit

i mean, imagine if, uh, let me just make these up without looking around my living room, it's like if remote control, book, floor, coffee table, rug joined the lawsuit, haha

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

Praxis

Shoutout to @KingJames for paying fines and fees with his voting rights organization so Floridians can vote!https://t.co/6nXpE3zm5H

— Voto Latino (@votolatino) July 24, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

I was hoping someone would set up a fund for that. I just donated:
https://wegotthevote.org/finesandfees/

DJI, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

thanks for sharing taht. I just did as well and shared.

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 July 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

Already donated, in before LeBron!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 24 July 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link

Anyone informed on what's happening with Shahid Buttar? seeing allegations of mistreatment, and DSA considering removing their endorsement

anvil, Saturday, 25 July 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link

Hey @NYCMayor you ok with the NYPD expanding its power to revoke press credentials and restrict journalists’ freedom to cover stories?https://t.co/F1RjLxukZA

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 24, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 July 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

Re:Buttar, I'm not surprised. His Twitter presence is unprofessional and I've seen multiple long-time SF racial justice activists say they don't trust him and that he only started showing up at actions the last couple months. It's a shame because we really need a progressive candidate to at least try to keep Nancy honest (#morbsbait) but he's not it.

Fetchboy, Saturday, 25 July 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link

He didn't really have a chance in hell anyway, right?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 25 July 2020 04:12 (three years ago) link

Another huge crowd tonight in Portland, including a new "wall" on the front lines: a Wall of Vets.

Here's a look at the line of military veterans getting set up here in front of the federal courthouse. Behind them, the Wall of Moms and the Wall of Dads are arriving. pic.twitter.com/gGnXHjI3k2

— Mike Baker (@ByMikeBaker) July 25, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 July 2020 07:32 (three years ago) link

whattayaknow, he ended up building walls after all

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 July 2020 07:32 (three years ago) link

Xxpost - probably not but these are crazy times.

Fetchboy, Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

with the continued brain poisoning of the religious right, a little excited to see how it makes its way into the Contemporary Christian Music scene.

new releases like

Jesus Rifle - Fuck Your Feelings
Faith Terrorist - My Right as an American
Christhammer - Jesus Isn't a Cunt

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

The Washington Post reports:

The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute, which runs the 40th president’s library near Los Angeles, has demanded that President Trump and the Republican National Committee (RNC) quit raising campaign money by using Ronald Reagan’s name and likeness.

“It was simply handled with a phone call mid-last week to the RNC, and they agreed to stop,” Reagan Foundation chief marketing officer Melissa Giller said in an email Saturday.

What came to the foundation’s attention — and compelled officials there to complain — was a fundraising email that went out July 19 with “Donald J. Trump” identified as the sender and a subject line that read: “Ronald Reagan and Yours Truly.”

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

Good morning!

Approval of President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic has hit a new low, with just 32 percent of Americans saying they support his strategy, according to a poll released Sunday.

Notably, the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found support for the president’s handling of the pandemic has dipped among Republicans, with 68 percent now approving of his handling of it.

The poll also found that 81 percent of Republicans approve of the president’s overall job performance, contradicting a claim Trump repeatedly makes — including in a tweet Friday — that his approval within his own party remains steady at 96 percent.

Trump's overall approval rating remains fairly constant at 38 percent, although just 2 in 10 of those polled said the country is heading in the right direction, a new low for the Trump presidency.

The poll found approval of the president’s handling of the economic crisis has dipped, too — with just 38 percent of Americans now saying the economy is good, down from the 67 percent in January, before the pandemic's spread.

The numbers come as the president changed his tone on the coronavirus pandemic in this week’s White House task force briefing and on social media in a tacit acknowledgment he is facing polling headwinds 100 days out from the November general election.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/26/support-for-trumps-coronavirus-strategy-dips-381509

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 July 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

lol fuck off R Reagan Presidential Foundation.

your ‘movement’ built this.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 26 July 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

His bowel movement, maybe.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 26 July 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

Getting worried about Illhan Omar

Seeing a lot of Antone signs, the amount of the campaign is spending is insane

I'm getting I'd say 6-8 mailers a week, some now not from his campaign but attack fliers from PACs

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 26 July 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

noted and donating rn

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 26 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

Awesome! I just did too.

Last poll I saw she was way up but congressional local primary polling who the fuck knows,I guess the guy she beat was way up too.

Though part of her base is the Somali community, could see that community being skeptical of polling.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 26 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Hmmm, the Trump administration is sending federal troops into cities in order to create "viral content"? Is the policy objective merely to dominate Twitter and Facebook? ---> https://t.co/9nxY4SxEkc pic.twitter.com/QT0QCWg0QX

— Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) July 25, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

Signs are no indication of, well, anything.

GOP are much better at this sort of symbolism. I need to find the 2012 story about Romney signs outnumbering Obama signs by a 3:1 ratio.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

Good grief ilhan Omar is not going to lose

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

You don't have any basis for saying that. Within a 4 block radius of me there're like 3 Omar signs and 15 other guy

Dan I., Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

ah, haha, though I guess someone mentioned a 3:1 sign ratio two posts up, missed that

Dan I., Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

(and its potential for not reflecting reality)

Dan I., Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

Iirc I didn't see a single Trump sign before his election. Or maybe literally a single Trump sign.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

I’ve posted before that she is up 30 points in the polls.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

She claims. I haven't seen any polling for this race

Dan I., Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

I can dig up the link if you want. She’s up 30 points. Feel free to worry if that’s your thing.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

She’s up 66/29 in internal polling. Internal polling leans but not by 37 points.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

Worrying is my thing.

Dan I., Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

Haha fair but if it gets to the stage where you’re sending her money (rather than a competitive race) then take a breather imo

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

Ok, this does make it a bit better, thanks.

#MN05 Democratic Primary:
Ilhan Omar 66% (+37)
Antone Melton-Meaux 29%@ChangePolls/@IlhanMN Internal Poll 7/7-9https://t.co/3jqXjAaSPc

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) July 17, 2020

Dan I., Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

She got money! but other more competitive races get it too

Dan I., Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

The other guy is grifting Fox News watchers. Good luck to him.

But if one of the most famous and hated congresspeople in the country were in a competitive race I feel like it would be in the news.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

so apparently the country *was* built on slavery, but it would be wrong to mention it

Sen. Tom Cotton describes slavery as a "necessary evil" in an interview with @LockwoodFrank. Here are the full comments. https://t.co/xDeegYxMAh pic.twitter.com/jRItFIV1Gk

— Chris Megerian (@ChrisMegerian) July 26, 2020

mookieproof, Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

That’s appalling

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 July 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

and yet if you look in the tweet, you see a bunch of replies from dumbshits saying "as much as I hate Cotton, he's merely quoting...", as if it's an actual quote and not a paraphrase of something he believed them said and is in context agreeing with due to the presence of the word "as".

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 July 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

nah, we know what Tom meant. it's ok

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 July 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

One just approached my husband in the parking lot of our grocery store. Asked for his signature to get Kanye on the ballot because “we want to split the vote” to help Trump. https://t.co/0XGFfriKKL

— Paige Lavender (@paigelav) July 26, 2020

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

xpost

My advice: don't waste much time reading replies to reactionary tweets, but what a horrible person Cotton is.

I've seen the mook mentioned along with Cruz and Nikki Haley as likely candidates for president in 2024. So it turns out that Haley is the most likable of the bunch? Ugh, I hate this state, she practically bankrupted it.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link

Bring them on, they’re all detestable and they’ve all enabled and apologized for Trump.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link

the only GOP villains I worry about for 2024 are Haley and Eyepatch Guy

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link

I am a little skeptical that West Virginia is in play but gah.

Though, the state is name after Kanye, so maybe...

forbidden froot loop (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

But if one of the most famous and hated congresspeople in the country were in a competitive race I feel like it would be in the news.


Ha, hours later it gets written up by weigel for the post

Folks, the new TRAILER is up, with a report from Detroit about the coming "squad" primary battles - Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib facing real challenges. Their opponents don't have much in common apart from accusing Omar and Tlaib of being showboats https://t.co/IFJwFem532

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) July 26, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link

Trump Hates Baseball!

nickn, Monday, 27 July 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link

White House aides afraid that he'd bring a football by mistake

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 July 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link

Wait, so his name is… Tom… Cotton…?

xps

pomenitul, Monday, 27 July 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link

it’s so funny to imagine the president sitting down and reading a list of $10 donors and sitting upright in his chair yelling at jared WHERE IS BILL BUTTLIPS OF WEST BONGWATER TEXAS HE IS MY BEST SUPPORTER

— kilgore trout, new tone haver (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 27, 2020

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 July 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link

"see if Dan Druff is willing to increase his monthly commitment"

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 July 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link

What about Ed Markey? He wins or nah?

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 27 July 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link

shorter version of the same clip that didn't link there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKFJvksc8ZI

Stevolende, Monday, 27 July 2020 07:31 (three years ago) link

So the Washington Post is running the Reagan Foundation, and RINO Paul Ryan is on the Board of Fox, which has been terrible. We will win anyway, even with the phony @FoxNews suppression polls (which have been seriously wrong for 5 years)! https://t.co/fOi3AROxuz

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 26, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

Lotta layers there

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

looking forward to the DJTJ presidential campaign in 2028.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

Haley is no better than any of the damp gross idiots who will run in 2024, but she will get traction as POC woman taking the GOP iNtO tEh FuTuRe by media idiots.

PUMAs will have their revenge.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 27 July 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

yeah haley is the one that scares me

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

maybe I'm wrong about this but I think Trump's extreme whininess about literally everything is the one thing that connects him to the idiots who vote for them and I don't think anyone else is gonna be able to replicate that

frogbs, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

I've said this before but Haley is a genuine threat imho, much moreso than a lot of these goons. I base this mostly on the admiration I've heard people personally express for her

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

Drag me if you must but I legitimately think Haley would not be as bad at the actual job as Josh Hawley or Tom Cotton or mini-Trump or Tucker Carlson would be. The "I'm worried that the Republicans might nominate someone with base-level confidence and the ability to dial the racism down to a 5 because it makes it more likely they'll win" has been burned out of me over the last three years.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

i simply cannot see modern republican voters overcoming their deep-seated misogyny to rally as one behind a woman candidate, no matter how fascistic

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

I think they’d be fine with any woman who’s pro-life, pro-gun, pro-cop

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

yup

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

and in fact most would delight in the opportunity to appear more "inclusive" with the right spokesperson

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

hayley is about the most acceptable one of the bunch and that's not saying much.

akm, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

On a flight to Israel late last year the guy sitting next to me was wearing a red hat & reading what was at the time Haley's new book. I too am convinced she'll be the next GOP nominee, I am Tom Friedman btw

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

I know it's not the first time Trump has called Ryan a RINO, but it's still funny to me to imagine Ryan, a self-described movement conservative whose views defined the GOP mainstream for 30+ years, now finding himself excoriated by a Republican president as not a true Republican.

jaymc, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

tbh i think y'all are underestimating just how much america hates women but hey what do i know

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

I don't think Sarah Palin being a woman cost McCain any votes in 2008. Her being a fucking idiot, maybe (ofc it was a different time, now I don't think even that would matter).

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

does this add up to one real job? i'm skeptical

Post-congressional life
In March 2019, Ryan joined the board of directors of Fox Corporation, the owner of Fox News Channel and the Fox broadcast network. He has since joined the faculty of the University of Notre Dame as a professor of practice for the 2019-20 academic year as a guest lecturer in political science and economics.

mookieproof, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

uuuuuuugh, imagine literally getting lectured by paul ryan

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

feels like a long time since we heard from Palin, and yet still too recently

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

i was just on her wikipedia, trying to figure out if she was doing sponsorships for online poker yet. not yet!

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

finding himself excoriated by a Republican president as not a true Republican.

Well, excoriated by Trump as not Trumpy enough, but yes, it is to lol.

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

The greatest thing Biden's ever one is laugh in Ryan's face and call bullshit on twenty years of Ryan's grifting.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

*done

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

I did not know much about Karen Bass before this week. She seems great - except for the comandante en jéfe gaffe. Politico says she's trying to walk back that comment. I would like to see more of her.

rb (soda), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

Because I'm not completely insane I'd forgotten about Benghazi completely; for that reason alone I'd rather Biden not pick Rice, so I don't have to fucking hear about that every day for however many years

akm, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

i think my favorite contender is Val Demmings; I was unfamiliar with her until the impeachment hearings, I thought she was incredibly impressive there.

akm, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

GOP unemployment plan is to cut it to $200 weekly? WTF. I thought they were shooting for 70%? I was certain this would be more like $400.

akm, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

absolutely insane lobotomy-level headline

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-not-solve-coronavirus-crisis/2020/07/26/7fca9a92-cdb0-11ea-91f1-28aca4d833a0_story.html

"One question still dogs Trump: Why not try harder to solve the coronavirus crisis?"

is that the one question? is it?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

white house propaganda email subject line:
"If You Climb on Top of and Beat an Innocent Stranger's Car, You're a Violent Criminal Who Deserves Prison"
what a time to be alive

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

is that ... a reference to the man who was murdered in austin on friday?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

that's the subtweet but the "reference" is to a non-newsworthy twitter event discussed in a piece in the hot garbage wrapper that is the Washington Examiner, which I'll refrain from linking to here.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

I am also not advocating for Haley in any way but if she can elected in this state, she can get elected anywhere imo.

Also if you genuinely think she's as equally reprehensible as Cotton, I submit this for your consideration (sorry if it was already posted):

And, if necessary, the 10th Mountain, 82nd Airborne, 1st Cav, 3rd Infantry—whatever it takes to restore order. No quarter for insurrectionists, anarchists, rioters, and looters. https://t.co/OnNJmnDrYM

— Tom Cotton (@TomCottonAR) June 1, 2020

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 27 July 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

220, 221 - whatever it takes

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 July 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

Their deaths cannot come soon enough.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

the longer it goes on the more this resembles the climate crisis, where we know exactly what we need to do but have decided that the short term stock market/GDP hit & inconvenience is just not worth the horrible long term consequences, including a much larger hit to the economy than just paying everyone to stay inside for 6 weeks

frogbs, Monday, 27 July 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

the super depressing thought i keep having is that if we have failed this hard on covid19 (in the United States), then that is very, very bad news for climate change. possibly the biggest issue with getting politicians/people to take meaningful action on climate change is that the consequences are long-term. and even when there are huge, acute, climate-related events - like Sandy - it can't be blamed 100% on climate change. i've always thought that it was near-impossible to convince conservatives to do anything about climate change, because they're the kind of people who won't vote for marriage equality until their own child tells them they're gay. anything that's not literally right in front of them, staring them in the face, they just don't believe or care about.

but here, we have a big obvious challenge that is happening in real-time, every day. and the same exactly fucking people - GOP and their faithful followers - are acting exactly the same! it is fucking incredible, the ignorance. there is ZERO hope that they will ever do anything useful for anyone living in the future. they can't get their act together to prevent their own loved ones from dying!

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

Isn't it possible that the visibly awful consequences of fucking this up will help us deal with climate change better?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

Well, and here we are: 36 percent approval.

President Donald Trump took steps last week to convey a new seriousness about the coronavirus pandemic, calling on Americans for the first time to wear masks to help stem its spread while also acknowledging that things are likely to get worse before they get better. But that sudden change in tone hasn’t improved his standing with voters on the subject.

Rather, in a new Morning Consult poll tracking public opinion on the pandemic, voters gave the president his worst marks yet, with a record-high 59 percent disapproving of his handling of the spread of COVID-19 and an all-time low of 36 percent approving. The July 23-26 poll surveyed 1,994 registered voters, with a margin of error of 2 percentage points.]

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

Yes I do think that’s possible. But Republicans will stand in the way of it guaranteed, which is why they need to be completely obliterated as a political force, like Germany did with Nazism. Maybe in 50 years some yahoos will start cosplaying as gun-toting Tea Partiers. But until then we have to eliminate them from the equation. They need to be afraid to show their faces for the open derision they’ll encounter just for being Republicans.

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Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

well KM the good news is that apparently most countries outside of the US do take this kind of shit seriously, so who knows. if there's a major breakthrough to be had on climate it is absolutely not coming from the United States of America

I read a long article about how Taiwan (a country with much less resources than ours) basically quashed this right away through a rigorous system of testing, tracing, and mask wearing, and I kept thinking about how something like that would never fly here. people would rather have 100 strangers die than wear a mask to Home Depot

frogbs, Monday, 27 July 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

Taiwan takes clear and present existential threats seriously. The USA only has boogeymen, comparatively speaking.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

in some ways I actually admire Americans' stubborn distrust of government if only as a contrast with Canadians being gutless goodie-goodies who fucking love to follow rules, but I must admit this worked out in our favor this time

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

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Isn't it possible that the visibly awful consequences of fucking this up will help us deal with climate change better?

I've said the same.

The fact is that the Republican Party was rebranded as the party of the petrostate a while ago, it became clear to me during the W years. ExxonMobil, which not long ago was the most profitable company in the world, is one of the main backers of a long-running campaign of disinformation on this issue. The climate crisis also puts the lie to whole free-market fundamentalist "greed is good" ideology.

While I do agree that there are fundamental issues of human psychology that hinder the struggle for effective action, America would seem to be a special case in this regard. The other countries that even make noise about leaving the Paris Agreement are mostly petrostates.

I was just reading this interview with George Lakoff about how framing could significantly affect the debate over the climate crisis. Interesting, his claim that even the term "climate change" reflects right-wing framing.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

Doesn't Taiwan also have a bit of recent-ish history of authoritarianism tho? Just playing devil's advocate.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

i kept looking at Vietnam and their ZERO deaths, thinking that of course they must be suppressing what's actually happening.

but then, read this:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-exemplar-vietnam

here's their timeline for developing COVID-19 testing, for example:

Development timelines of diagnostic test kits:

February 7, 2020: Test kit developed by Hanoi University of Science and Technology. Testing method: RT-LAMP (reverse transcription loop-mediated isothermal amplification). Cost: US$15. Testing time: 70 minutes.
March 3, 2020: Test kit developed by Vietnam Academy of Science and Technology. Testing method: real-time RT-PCR (reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction). Cost: less than US$21. Testing time: 80 minutes from receiving a sample.
March 5, 2020: Test kits developed by Military Medical University, commercialized by Viet A. Cost: US$19–$25. Testing method: RT-PCR and real-time RT-PCR. Testing time: over one hour (quicker than the two-step Charité protocol) but has testing capacity four times the number of samples as the CDC kit.26 The Viet A test has been certified by the European Union and other authorities and is now being exported to other countries, although WHO certification is still pending as of May 2020.27
April 28, 2020: Production and launch of the RT-LAMP kit and RT-PCR kit28,29 commercialized by Thai Duong company.

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

similar timeline in US:

Feb 7: this isn't happening. but no one is allowed from china
March 3: this is going away
March 5: states will take care of this right?
April 28: we are the greatest at having low mortality

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

Vietnam also has a healthy distrust of any claims coming from Beijing. They weren't taking any chances.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

tbf losing to vietnam is a treasured american pastime

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

We did not lose! It was a tie.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

another thing that sucks about America's response is that we genuinely got lucky in that we had a several month head start before it really started manifesting itself here and it made zero difference

we could have our first COVID case here TODAY and still bungle it just as badly as we did

frogbs, Monday, 27 July 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

The realities of all of this really hit me this past week when my 15-year-old son, who has a lot of anxiety issues and has been having a really hard time in isolation, started crying when he found out his high school's summer band camp was canceled because we're in the middle of a damn hot spot. He was looking forward so much to seeing other kids again. He started pounding his fists on the couch saying, "Why are people being so stupid? Why don't they take it seriously?"

that's awful tipz. Hope the fellow sees better days ASAP.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

this is 3% the size of the pentagon budget just passed by the senate https://t.co/PkQIxvmeGT

— Georgia (@nationalparke) July 26, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

Thanks, Morbz. Yeah, it's been rough. He's had his first ever full-blown anxiety attacks during all of this, had to talk him through a few.

maybe I'm wrong about this but I think Trump's extreme whininess about literally everything is the one thing that connects him to the idiots who vote for them and I don't think anyone else is gonna be able to replicate that

― frogbs, Tuesday, July 28, 2020 1:12 AM (five hours ago)

this feels right, but we've also seen a lot of state-level Republican grifters weaponise grievance politics in the last three years

Isn't it possible that the visibly awful consequences of fucking this up will help us deal with climate change better?

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:44 AM (one hour ago)

Oh yeah, absolutely

Steppin' RZA (sic), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

Whoops, start at this link instead

Steppin' RZA (sic), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/509237-kaepernick-fauci-to-receive-robert-f-kennedy-human-rights-award

Sticking it to him, in the parlance of Seinfeld.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link

"You gave them an award for spite?!"

nickn, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 02:27 (three years ago) link

↑↑ More Seinfeld!

"I wasn't even really invited..."
"That's what makes this so difficult."

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link

This is Michael Scott-esque https://t.co/5eCrv8Chkc pic.twitter.com/vUATYHBG0a

— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) July 27, 2020

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link

"a longtime standing offer"

Randy Levine GUILTY

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link

A little surprised that people think that global climate catastrophe can be stopped. Like, I'd laugh at the naivete if it wasn't so dire.

If you have young kids, tell them to settle in a place that has access to fresh water.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 11:24 (three years ago) link

Technically it’s easy, unfortunately we share the planet with a bunch of selfish idiots called humanity; so we’re all fucked.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/VmZnpIBq59

— Ed Markey (@EdMarkey) July 28, 2020

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

for every pol a Gravel kid!

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 12:11 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: @Twitter & @jack have suspended @DonaldJTrumpJr for posting a viral video of medical doctors talking about Hydroxychloroquine.

Big Tech is the biggest threat to free expression in America today & they're continuing to engage in open election interference - full stop. pic.twitter.com/7dJbauq43O

— Andrew Surabian (@Surabees) July 28, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

(I have no idea who this jackass is, just posting the news.)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

i guess the gop really wanted to declare war on the virus, huh

The GOP COVID-19 bill includes

$2 billion for F-35s
$1.75 billion for an FBI building
$1 billion for surveillance planes
$375 million for armored vehicles
$360 million for missile defense
$283 million for Apache helicopters
$0 for millions facing eviction

It's Dead on Arrival

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) July 28, 2020

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

has anyone tried shooting covid with a gun?

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

wd like to see Zephyr take Schumer's Senate seat next time (if AOC doesn't)

Publication day!

Buy early and often. Buy audio and hardcover. Send 10 copies to your Congressmember.

Thank you in advance. This is my best effort to distill my creed, a theory about power, activism, and democracy.

Break 'em Up. https://t.co/WjZ0iSIt1K

— Zephyr Teachout (@ZephyrTeachout) July 28, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

Recovering our freedom from Big Tech. buy via amazon...

koogs, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

So, this doctor whose video Trump retweeted is a character.

WAT? Trump involved with a wacky doctor? Say it ain't so.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/img/charles/2016/08/26/7eb7495d.jpg

forbidden froot loop (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

Like...I can't even muster up any feelings of surprise or shock anymore. His profound stupidity is truly bottomless.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

If he got into an on-camera argument with a drawing of a person, I'd just think 'yeah, that seems about right'. If the country watched as he slowly snacked on a fistful of rusty siding screws, I'd just say 'that's some classic Donald'.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

shit is gonna get ugly

https://forward.com/news/national/451581/jon-ossoff-jewish-nose-david-perdue-antisemitic/

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

Jim Jordan is so bad at this

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

Jim Jordan is so bad at this


What now?

Boring, Maryland, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

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Trump claims the doctors told him "That's amazing!" because he could repeat a string of four or five simple words. He was never that bright but it seems likely he's suffering from cognitive decline at this point.

A little surprised that people think that global climate catastrophe can be stopped. Like, I'd laugh at the naivete if it wasn't so dire.

I don't think anyone who's been paying close attention thinks the climate crisis can be stopped, the goal is simply to mitigate the worst effects. Do we want 2 billion dead or 6.5 billion dead? Sorry to put it in such stark terms.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

Those are the right terms imo - if averting doom is impossible, why bother to try?

forbidden froot loop (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

Was trying to watch the Bill Barr hearing but had to tap out, don't have the patience.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

I suppose, in that sense Jom Jordan is wildly effective because he made me hate myself and life in general after watching for a few minutes.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

I don't understand how Gohmert and Jordan are elected officials but then look at the president

akm, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

Gohmert having devoted constituents is about as bizarre to me as people who like Elton John's Aida

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link

there's a venn diagram for you

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

The balls of these GOP assholes to restore the millions of military spending Asshole reallocated to the border wall ... via the covid stimulus bill. What a bunch of dicks.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

We are the country that perennially has a clear path to the end zone, then falls down at the ten yard line and shits itself

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

I highly recommend this (2008) book to people:

https://www.amazon.com/images/I/51E1LK6-OVL._SX342_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

In The Confidence Trap, David Runciman shows that democracies are good at recovering from emergencies but bad at avoiding them. The lesson democracies tend to learn from their mistakes is that they can survive them―and that no crisis is as bad as it seems. Breeding complacency rather than wisdom, crises lead to the dangerous belief that democracies can muddle through anything―a confidence trap that may lead to a crisis that is just too big to escape, if it hasn't already. The most serious challenges confronting democracy today are debt, the war on terror, the rise of China, and climate change. If democracy is to survive them, it must figure out a way to break the confidence trap.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

Re: the Ossoff nose thing it looks more like someone was sloppy and erased the edges of his face around the nose, rather than making the nose itself bigger

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI): Is it ever appropriate for a president to solicit or accept foreign assistance in an U.S. election?

Barr: “Depends on what kind of assistance.”

Cicilline: Is it ever appropriate for a president to solicit or accept foreign assistance in an U.S. election?

Barr: “No, it’s not appropriate.”

well i mean when you put it that way

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

Re: the Ossoff nose thing it looks more like someone was sloppy and erased the edges of his face around the nose, rather than making the nose itself bigger

I'd believe it if there weren't numerous examples of right-wingers editing up photos of Dem pols and journalists already

just like official government docs 'accidentally' being couched with Nazi-style language these fuckers absolutely do not deserve the benefit of the doubt on any of this

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/27/magazine/ben-jerry-interview.html

What would go in a Joe Biden flavor, and what would go in a Donald Trump flavor?
Cohen: A Trump flavor, it’s not palatable. You can’t make Trump into ice cream. You could make him into coal.

What about Biden?
Cohen: It’s an interesting question. [Sighs.] You know, it’d be better than nothing.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

Biden 2020: You know, it’d be better than nothing.

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

Lo-Fat Frozen Yogurt with Soybean Crunch and Licorice Swirl

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

not that it matters or that it's surprising, but the way Barr is answering these questions is a disgrace. he is someone who is in charge of the law, and who is currently above the law, and will never face any retribution for what he's doing, and he knows it

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

re: Ossoff, they also put him with Schumer and said something about the Dem's "buying" the election, which is enough of an anti-semitic dogwhistle for me

akm, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

So glad to see that my uncle, who spent eight years posting memes misgendering Michelle Obama and comparing her husband to literal animals, is suddenly posting all caps screeds on Facebook about how "criticizing the president is illegal" and how "disrespecting our leader should be grounds for arrest". I'm even more glad to feel confident that he will follow this advice and come to full-throated defense of Biden in a similar manner.

It's almost morbidly fascinating how quickly even his stupidest brain shittings on Twitter turn into gospel truth and rallying cries for so many morons.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

yeah, didn't catch much of the Barr but revolting.
I hope there is a return to some recognition of law next year. But it's a long time to wait.

Could do with some nasty comeuppance like something out of a Spectre comic or something, him and Jim Jordan winding up as each other's anchor or something. But maybe that's too polite.

Gee hope there is a next year.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

In The Confidence Trap, David Runciman shows that democracies are good at recovering from emergencies but bad at avoiding them... The most serious challenges confronting democracy today are debt, the war on terror, the rise of China, and climate change.


2008 was in many ways a very different world from now, and I’ll cop to not knowing much at all about “the rise of China”, but the War on Terror and The Debt are kind of dumb and made up and not important at all. In fact, it seems like the only time debt is righteous and good is when we’re leveraging it to perpetrate our unique brand of terror all over the globe. And maybe that’s exactly what he’s driving at? (And if so pls ignore my ignorance). Unfortunately that’s almost never what people mean when they talk about the War on Terror or Getting Serious About the Debt.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

Trump: "They're very respected doctors. There was a woman who was spectacular in her statements about it and she's had tremendous success with it."

Reporter: "She's also made videos saying that doctors make medicine using DNA from aliens."

Trump: "I know nothing about her."

— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) July 28, 2020

at least 3 thread titles here

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

xpost Don't get caught up in the reductionist blurb, it's really quite good.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

Long Thread cutting down the Covington Kid's settlement that your racist uncle won't stop gloating about...

THREAD: Did the Covington Kid just score millions of dollars?

People won't stop asking me about this headline, bullying me into writing this long explanation of why it's obvious the suit against the Washington Post was settled for peanuts. So here goes.https://t.co/3UEqW9mSfw

— Respectable Lawyer (@RespectableLaw) July 27, 2020

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:44 (three years ago) link

'Nobody likes me' is the obvious thread title for August imho:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/509464-trump-questions-how-fauci-has-a-high-approval-rating-but-nobody-likes

pomenitul, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

I can’t believe “There has NEVER been a boat parade for Joe Biden!” was this month, it feels like six years ago.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link

I keep forgetting that there wasn’t a boat parade for joe biden! Fucked up

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

So many precious memories.

jmm, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

How do his super-tuff followers continually fail to recognize what a pathetic, puling pisspants he is? How?

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

Most of them are the same? It's very "executive VP of his father's car dealership"

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link

Exactly. These are people who genuinely think they have the deep state on its knees because they share three memes a day.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

these are the same people that think Ted Nugent is a libslayer when we don't think about the guy at all unless he's in the news, and even then it's a shrug and a minimize.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link

I can’t believe “There has NEVER been a boat parade for Joe Biden!” was this month, it feels like six years ago.

Occasionally I'll remember events from the past few years and it seems like it happened in another dimension. Like the time Trump blamed Megyn Kelly's debate performance on her menstrual cycle ("bleeding out of her wherever"), or when he "honored" WWII Navajo code talkers beneath a portrait of Andrew Jackson and then referred to Warren as "Pocahontas," or that time Melania wore a pith helmet. Somehow we just move on from these things...

Sam Weller, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 08:54 (three years ago) link

or went to a disaster zone in Texas with that message on the back of her coat. subtle and oh so tactful.

& prioritising by handing out the paper towels first like all great presidents don't.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 09:25 (three years ago) link

or was texas teh stiletto heels in a disaster zone thing

Stevolende, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 09:26 (three years ago) link

I watched this with subtitles because I can't stand his voice, but ... this is something.

This should frighten you.

One of most effective questioning of Trump you’ve ever seen (by @jonathanvswan on #AxiosOnHBO)

Trump has NO GOOD response for NEVER raising Russian bounties/arming Taliban with Putin.

Plus: Russia may still be doing it.pic.twitter.com/8oAbLTzVRv

— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) July 29, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link

Has anyone's boasts ever been so transparently hollow?

Also he suggests 22 soldiers from India were murdered by China in a long-dispute over the border between the two countries??

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

Many people don't know this, but Russia used to be this thing called the Soviet Union.

Tbf many people probably *don't* know that, but they're probably mostly under the age of 20, and they can't find the US on the map, either.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

Xpost

I guess he’s referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_China–India_skirmishes#Galwan_Valley_skirmish which seems fairly gruesome based on the description. Obviously he fails to mention that China lost 35 soldiers in the same skirmishes according to US intelligence.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_China–India_skirmishes

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

Don’t know why the url messes up, you know where to go to though.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

Maybe the thing that will turn it around for Collins is a really sharp ad that zeros in on all the horrible positions her opponent is taking. Yeah, that's the ticket. Oh wait, shit, fuck...

What is Sara Gideon's "Top Priority?"

Hard to pin down, but one thing's for sure -- after 133 days of vacation during a crisis, it sure isn't Maine.#mepolitics pic.twitter.com/hKT2PR1tzY

— Team Collins (@TeamCollins207) July 28, 2020

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

Wow, that's a terrible ad: It only emphasizes all of the things that Gideon wants to focus on. The "gotcha" that they can't all be "top priorities" is weak.

jaymc, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

"Look at all these things she's concerned about! How could she possibly be concerned about all these things! She MUST BE LYING!!!!"

Next level stupid.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

susan collins is going to loose spectacularly

akm, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

Good morning to @SenSusanCollins and @SenSusanCollins only. pic.twitter.com/6i4GlGtgkF

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) July 29, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

Wow, I mean we've debated TLP again and again but that's a good ad.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

These once and future Republicans have honestly shown much more conviction than most Dem leaders. And that's why they'll never get a cent from me, even if I appreciate their efforts now. Once they get their way they'll continue to fight to get their way, without the once in a lifetime twist of their goals loosely and broadly aligning with immediate Dem goals.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

The Lincoln Project has also bought ads for the Democratic Senate candidates in Montana and Alaska:
https://www.axios.com/lincoln-project-senate-alaska-maine-montana-f1127dfe-5123-471a-9512-6e77ed3ce5fd.html

jaymc, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Politico: Louie Gohmert, who refused to wear a mask, tests positive for coronavirus https://t.co/Pc4kGXZF6k

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) July 29, 2020

well thats a shame

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

probably could have condensed this to 14 words

@realDonaldTrump

I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood...

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

re: gohmert, it's really a shame they caught it today and not tomorrow. he was scheduled to ride on air force one with trump today

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

DJT with the Little Creatures deep cuts

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

Has any GOP politician died of Covid?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

Nah, they've just been harvesting the lungs of the young to keep on tickin'.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

Hence the goon squad abductions.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

hooooly shit

Rep. Gohmert was tested several times before his planned trip to Texas with POTUS. Now he will isolate for 10 days.@replouiegohmert: “I can’t help but wonder if by keeping a mask on, if I might have put some… of the virus on the mask and breathed it in” https://t.co/FSNbdLtvk3

— Cynthia McLaughlin (@cynthiasmu) July 29, 2020

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

haha, and another pull quote from gohmert from that interview:

"If somebody feels strongly about everybody should wear a mask, then they shouldn’t be around people that don’t wear masks.”

hmm, if you reverse that it starts to make a little more sense:

if somebody feels strongly that they should NOT wear a mask, then they shouldn't be around people that DO wear masks

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

KM the "well if you believe this, then logically you should also believe..." line of argument does not apply to any of these idiots and it never has

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

lol he truly is as stupid as they come

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

PLAYBOOK PM: After we reported that @replouiegohmert was positive, we got an email from a Gohmert aide. pic.twitter.com/x31CSOdkLf

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) July 29, 2020

jaymc, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

wow I honestly hope he dies

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood...

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 29, 2020

Saw Suburban Lifestyle Dream open for Soccer Mommy, they sucked

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

Ever since PM came out, Ive gotten a flood of emails from republican staffers who say they too are being forced to come to the hill without a mask now.

If you’re one of those people, email me or dm me.

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) July 29, 2020

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

hey I don't say this often but Donald Trump is a fucking ghoul and I hope his brains explode

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

if Barr gets it and dies of the VID along with Louie Gohmert, their bodies should be dropped out of a helicopter onto the Capitol steps

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

trump is just going back to the tactics that first got him on the front page of the times.

maura, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

I know, he's not a galaxy brain and this whole "beautiful suburbs" thing is a huge racist dog whistle, but...like, does he *know* that the racial composition of the suburbs has changed dramatically in the past two decades?

More than half of all minority groups in large metro areas, including blacks,
now reside in the suburbs. The share of blacks in large metro areas living in
suburbs rose from 37 percent in 1990, to 44 percent in 2000, to 51 percent in
2010. Higher shares of whites (78 percent), Asians (62 percent), and Hispanics (59
percent) in large metro areas live in suburbs.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

He just couldn’t spell exurbs probably

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

if Barr gets it and dies of the VID along with Louie Gohmert, their bodies should be dropped out of a helicopter onto the Capitol steps

I know song parodies sung by government employees isn't everyone's cup of tea, but...

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

TRUMP: “When you say per capita, there’s many per capitas. It’s like per capita relative to what? But you can look at just about any category and we’re really at the top”

US testing and death rate per capita is worse than other industrialized countries: https://t.co/BPLwn1aTdy pic.twitter.com/0muEjBzbMW

— JM Rieger (@RiegerReport) May 20, 2020

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

deep sigh

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

well, i don't really think that per capita can be assessed as of itself as being per capita because what does per capita feel like?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

oh, that's from the ancient day of may 20, 2020. we can safely assume that's he's put in the time and effort to learn what the (very common, essential) term "per capita" means

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

we should try to find a way of using "per capita" that puts things on a comparable playing field, so we can do "apples to apples" comparisons

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

We're Really At The Top or There's Many Per Capitas for August Thread Title.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

Oh, nm. Vintage Tweet.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

You're going to have to be more specific when you are referring to per capitas, I can think of at least four different per capitas.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

he like-a da red capita

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

TRUMP: “When you say per capita, there’s many per capitas. It’s like per capita relative to what? But you can look at just about any category and we’re really at the top”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20kM2xtUfBI

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

he probably thinks "per Capita" is a song from Kiss Me, Kate

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

Karl Marx - Per Capita

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

Ironically the suburbs stuff plays best in a state he has no chance of winning, and I suspect the Liveable California folks (ie racist anti-tax nimbys) are not thrilled that their alignment with Trump (who is using their exact language here) is going to be brought up regularly now.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

are nextdoor nazis really shying away from trumpism

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

Yakov Smirnoff appeared at a Branson city meeting tonight. He opposed a mask ordinance. pic.twitter.com/BRpEwwZpiQ

— Rob Zerwekh (@zerwekh) July 29, 2020

What A Country!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link

In Fascist country, mask wears you!

nickn, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

In America, comedian is doctor.

DJI, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

bouie was just discussing on twitter how plenty of people think trump can win reelection but essentially no one thinks he can win the popular vote. that's pretty fucked up!

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

there will be a time and place to address electoral reform. but it is not right now, after 2 of the last 5 presidential terms have been won by republican presidents who didn't win the popular vote. instead, we must wait 10-20 years to talk about it, sometime in the distant future, when there is greater trust and integrity in politics

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

are nextdoor nazis really shying away from trumpism

― all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:07 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Probably not in private (these groups predate nextdoor and Reagan for that matter), but they know which way the wind blows and they’ve spent the last couple of decades rebranding their public image.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

Insane thread from IL GOP Senate candidate (lol, good luck with that), in which he offers the perfect motto for the GOP in 2020: "Death will eventually come for everyone."

Re: IHSA changes fall sports

My son found out today about his upcoming football season. My thoughts? The Devil is about fear and isolation. Does he own you? How much more of my son's childhood are we going to steal? Death will eventually come for everyone. 1/ #ILSen #Twill pic.twitter.com/9Lc5ylPPhv

— Fmr. Sheriff Mark Curran (R) 🇺🇸 (@ElectMarkCurran) July 29, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link

reminds me of that dialogue from BASEketball:

(scene in a hospital with terminally ill kid)

"I'm gonna die"
"Well, we're all gonna die"
"Yeah, but not this week!"

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link

So I guess we’ve reached that singularity where all public speech functions as an August thread title generator

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link

That must mean this will all be over soon! Right?

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link

every new thread brings us one month closer to the end. but OF WHAT

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:13 (three years ago) link

There’s this mountain of pure diamond. It takes an hour to climb it and an hour to go around it, and every hundred years a little bird comes and sharpens its beak on the diamond mountain. And when the entire mountain is chiseled away, the first second of eternity will have passed.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link

want to say “posting” but I think that’s maybe not it

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link

xp

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link

Is the rapture still a thing, I mean donny boy being such a religious individual and all.

Stevolende, Thursday, 30 July 2020 09:11 (three years ago) link

Wtf the Gohmert guy is a fucking imbecile!!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link

He is half-horse

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link

🚨 THE PRESIDENT IS TALKING ABOUT DELAYING THE ELECTION FOR NONSENSE REASONS 🚨 https://t.co/qiDGCG8NO7

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 30, 2020

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:53 (three years ago) link

The coward shows his full ass at last.

In semi-related Beltway idiocy: Why Trump Might Quit

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

Good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

The scenario hinges also on an assumption that Trump’s political project is more weakened internally—in the psychological sense—than it is even in the external sense, as measured by polls and campaign coverage.

stopped reading here lol

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link

ignoring his tweets, my friends will all freak but he does this "coyly asking questions" thing all the time so that hopefully his supporters or Fox News broadcasters et al will pick up the ball and run with it.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

US President Donald Trump calls to delay 2020 election, citing possible mail-in voting fraud despite little evidence https://t.co/mWFN6QIbr7

— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) July 30, 2020

lol here we go

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

fishhook.jpg

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

ignoring his tweets, my friends will all freak but he does this "coyly asking questions" thing all the time so that hopefully his supporters or Fox News broadcasters et al will pick up the ball and run with it.

otm

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link

literally the moment I closed this browser tab and went to FB, two friends already freaking out and talking about how they can't get to Canada to escape this now.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

citing possible mail-in voting fraud despite little evidence

What is this “little” evidence?

epistantophus, Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

Has Susan Collins condemned the tweet yet?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

a little evidence is slightly smaller than a big evidence

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

ignoring his tweets, my friends will all freak but he does this "coyly asking questions" thing all the time so that hopefully his supporters or Fox News broadcasters et al will pick up the ball and run with it.

he's literally sending feds to round up protestors in Dem-led cities right now, he's not *always* bluffing

frogbs, Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link

yes. exactly

ignoring his tweets, my friends will all freak but he does this "coyly asking questions" thing all the time so that hopefully his supporters or Fox News broadcasters et al will pick up the ball and run with it.

I get this, but also....isn't the near certainty that some of his more vocal supporters (inclusing members of congress) *will* pick the ball up and run with it reason enough *not* to ignore his tweets?

It seems clear to me by now that his tweets actually, really do impact policymaking. Which is different than saying he doesn't also spout off random nonsense that often has no bearing on anything.

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

Tbf I think it's totally reasonable for people to freak out about this. It's the constant erosion of norms we've been seeing and, come on, the simple response of "he can't legally do that" doesn't feel like as much of a palliative as people who say it might think.

He can't legally send unmarked troops into random cities to kidnap citizens. But he did.
He can't legally use his office to direct Secret Service to stay in his properties to enrich himself. But he did.
He can't legally separate refugee kids from parents. But he did.
He can't collude with a foreign power to influence the outcome of an election. But, despite what the GOP senate wants you to think, it sure as as hell seems like he did.
He can't legally obstruct justice in ongoing investigations. But he did, multiple times.
etc etc

Obviously the elections lie with the states and it would be infinitely more difficult to actually postpone an election. It almost certainly won't happen. But let's not shame people who are freaking out about him even stating the intention, because JFC "he can't legally do that" has not stopped this fucking administration before.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

So after the Dem House refuses to change federal law to move the election, what's the scenario? The polls open as usual, and he sends fed troops to close them? Then we have civil war?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link

I mean this is the nightmare we're in...people agree with this piece of shit, and his shitty ideas are granted legitimacy—not because the rest of us are "amplifying" them or whatever, but because FOX viewers glom on and their representatives follow suit

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

He can't legally send unmarked troops into random cities to kidnap citizens. But he did.

Not exactly. Even most experts are in agreement he does legally have the right to deploy federal troops to protect federal property. The question is whether they waded beyond their scope, which is a bit more nebulous.

He can't legally separate refugee kids from parents. But he did.

actually, it was BECAUSE of the law that he had to. because he and his administration ruthlessly began prosecuting all illegal immigration as criminal rather than civil infraction, and by law, the children who were not accused of a crime cannot be locked up with their parents.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

he's literally sending feds to round up protestors in Dem-led cities right now, he's not *always* bluffing

― frogbs, Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:30 AM bookmarkflaglink

and did he give us a cute little head's up on twitter before he did that like he is doing now, or did it rely on people starting to speak up about it on Twitter before anybody had a clue about it?

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

Yeah, you're right, I was technically incorrect on a couple of those. The guys a peach. Let's keep him around for four more years.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

one of the problems we run into when this subject comes up is people conflating the idea that something like this is legitimately dangerous with the belief that "he will get away with it"

I do not think he would get away with it. That doesn't mean it won't incite more violence, justify more troops in the street, etc.

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

this will follow the usual cycle...

Democrats in Congress will speak out against this (which, to be fair, *they* should do).

Some GOP Congressmen/women will speak out against it weakly or downplay it ("there is no need to delay the election", "he was just asking a question", "you took him out of context").

something else major will happen in 12 hours and we'll forget about it.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

I hope you're right. The guy is willing into reality the crises that he believes would justify emergency acts

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

^^^ Hadrain otm

I don't think he is going to actually postpone the election. But I'm terrified of what his armed supporters are going to do now that the idea has been planted in their heads. And I think that's a fairly reasonable position.

Neanderthal, I know you've been going through a lot lately and I sincerely appreciate your posts, but sometimes it comes across like you are shaming people for freaking out. Given *gestures vaguely at everything* we're all entitled to freak out when this guy floats this shit.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

Hadrian, sorry

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

yeah it's hard to see even just September from here, and he already has an attorney general who has sanctioned a gestapo. I don't think Trump or Barr are yet anywhere near their ceilings in trying to fuck with the election.

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

I'm not trying to downplay the harm he causes on a regular basis or that he frequently dog whistles, which is shit I call out on the regular. i just don't see value in freaking out over his Tweets anymore. we were convinced he'd fire Mueller (which tbf, there was more reason to worry there),

just continue to hammer him on his failed leadership, continue to speak out against the presence of Federal troops in American cities and demand for their retraction, ACLU continue to sue who needs to be sued, Nancy and Chuck continue to hammer everybody for a fuckin' relief bill being that Meadows is basically saying the bill appears dead in the water (meaning a need for a *shudder* "veto-proof" bill).

if people want to wig out about it, have at it. if I'm wrong, I'll eat crow (assuming I'm allowed to). but he's doing this to distract people from those actual actions I mentioned above and while I'm not a "zero-sum" person and know we can focus on multiple things at once.

I think it's pretty well-established that I'm not a fan of Trump by now, and that I recognize the extra-legal things he's done!

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

something else major will happen in 12 hours and we'll forget about it.

It's already been posited on Twitter that he only said this because it's John Lewis's funeral, at which his three immediate predecessors will either be speaking or in attendance, and he needs people to pay attention to him.

I don't think he is going to actually postpone the election.

This will require either a constitutional amendment, or a coup backed by the military. Which do you think is more likely?

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link

people agree with this piece of shit, and his shitty ideas are granted legitimacy—not because the rest of us are "amplifying" them or whatever, but because FOX viewers glom on and their representatives follow suit

i think there's a finer point to it -- it's more that people who lead lives of absolute (or near to it) bad faith pretend to agree with the piece of shit, and root for him because he's their (hateful) rodeo clown. his supporters are the bad faith people in this thread

Good faith vs Bad faith

they're not dumb. they don't really believe trump. they're just disingenuous pieces of shit themselves, admiring one of their own continuing to get away with it in the face of the virtue signaling self-righteous goody goodies

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

yeah that's right I think—for the most part. There are a lot of *real* dummies in this country though.

xp to Neanderthal—I totally understand this. But there's a whole spectrum of reasonable response to this kind of thing btw talking about it/taking it seriously and going into a panic.

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

xp - For the most part you right qualmsley, but I can confirm from direct personal interaction with people I have the misfortune to be related to - there are most certainly very dumb Trump supporters that absolutely take him at his word. For everything.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

fwiw, it's not like I'm spinning in a circle, screaming about the election. But as soon as I saw he tweeted that out, I got a knot in my stomach to realize we're going to have to hear about/deal with this as a "thing" for the next several weeks, at a minimum, when we absolutely should not have to consider it a "thing".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

otm. I don't think anyone itt is "freaking out" when it comes to these things, though it's often characterized that way. Personally I've been humbled by underestimating these evils and am just making sure I don't do that anymore

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

loving the "???" at the end of that tweet

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

xp to Neanderthal—I totally understand this. But there's a whole spectrum of reasonable response to this kind of thing btw talking about it/taking it seriously and going into a panic.

― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:52 AM bookmarkflaglink

I am speaking about the people who I literally see doing the latter right now. of which the number is non-negligible, despite the news being less than an hour old. as of right now, that doesn't include anybody ITT.

Trump even worded it as a question, as he usually does with things that he has no intention of doing, so that he can attempt to use plausible deniability ("what? I was just asking if it's possible!"). just like the time he threatened to revoke federal funding from schools that barred Milo from speaking - he worded it as a question that time too. or like the time he tried to demand a new election in Arizona during mid-terms, because he claimed there was widespread fraud. same thing.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

Fair....aren't there episodes of him "just asking?" that function as shoehorns though? For real shit? I can't keep up with all of it anymore

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

Yes, but I think it's fair to even push back against that. I'm just so tired of the whole, "lol it's just Trump, that's what he does", which only excuses it the next time too. The Dems should be forcefully pushing back against this "just asking questions" every single fucking time - it's what the GOP would be doing to a Dem president. It's not going to make a difference, no, but there should be a highly visible, coordinated campaign to push back against this shit, every day if needed.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

the correct response to him is "sure, let's delay it a few weeks - that will give us additional time to get our voters who were illegally purged from voter rolls reinstated, as well as paying the fees to reinstate felons' voting rights in Florida. how does two more weeks sound?"

xpost obviously Nancy et al have to reply to it. that's their job.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

don't think I'm not scared of Trump. I even overstepped and called milo a Trump revisionist once because I felt like he was going too easy on him.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link

just tuesday in the house of representatives the most corrupt attorney general in US history appeared, finally, under threat of subpoena. this seems kind of scary, even without 2scoops tweet this morning

Rep. Greg Stanton, D-Ariz., pointed out that Trump has suggested that no ballots should be counted after Election Day and asked Barr, "If the president asks you to intervene and try to stop states from counting legal ballots after Election Day, will you do the right thing and refuse?"

Barr responded, "I will follow the law." He separately said he would "enforce" the law. So that means if a state has issued a ruling saying that votes cannot be counted if they were postmarked before Election Day but didn't arrive until after that, he would be willing to intervene on behalf of the president to ensure those votes weren't counted.

Anyone who lived through the Florida 2000 election debacle should know that this is not a matter for federal law enforcement. Elections are run by the states. If there's a dispute it goes to the courts and in a worst-case scenario to the Congress. Barr has no authority to intervene at all in how states count and tabulate their votes, but judging from his recent behavior, I doubt that would stop him. With Barr, "follow the law," seems to mean "do whatever benefits Donald Trump and hurts his enemies."

https://www.salon.com/2020/07/29/bill-barr-on-capitol-hill-lies-evasions-and-a-promise-to-follow-the-law-be-very-afraid/

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

looking forward to a vaccine but "six-month coma" pill is running a very close second

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

lol fuckin' dummy, votes are ALWAYS COUNTED AFTER ELECTION DAY FROM YOUR OWN MILITARY, DIPSHIT

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

xpost to hairpiece-in-chief

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

why don't we ask Barr and Trump to go to a state voting station of their choosing, then invite known COVID patients to show up for a private voting session, and all simultaneously lift their masks and cough and spit the fuck over both of them.

actually why wait until the election

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

Okay, one more Take: If your general election pitch is that you can pull the country back to normal - booming economy! vaccine! etc! - "things will be so bad in November that we can't have an election" is not helping you do that.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) July 30, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

(An ongoing problem with the total incoherence of his pitch for four more years btw)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

And yeah this might be to distract from the funeral. Also the fed just announced the biggest gdp drop in history which is bad according to conventional wisdom.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

^^^ hence why he posted that tweet

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link

but think of all the taxpayer money we saved cutting the global pandemic response team in 2018 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

something going on with Ghislane Maxwell today too I think

frogbs, Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

lmao I see people are on the "trump is playing 5d chess" line again. he tweets inflammatory shit cause he likes to dominate the news cycle. that's it.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

IF it were this easy to stop elections, it would've been done 60 times since 1788.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

I don’t think “he does x to distract from bad news“ is 5d chess thinking

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

So this fed troop presence in major cities is just going to probably be the new normal huh? They ratchet it up, Dems get elected and try to grind the gears a little on the surface. But it just trucks along in the background until the next insane crypto—or very likely *literal*—fascist comes into office.

Because golly geez we just couldn’t push through the necessary legislation. The sausage-making is not for Pollyannas you see. I mean, it’s *technically* legal and jeez looks like Dems in precarious districts and red states where the GOP has super-super majorities (but no major cities looool) are clamoring for the Robocops, Inc. They vote too, ya know. Look guys these things aren’t just fixed by the snap of the fingers. Lots of ins, lotta of outs, lotta what have yous. And lookit, some of our very biggest donors are looking into this, fielding simulations of how mechsuit supersoldiers could deploy PPE for Covid flare ups or the next pandemic that we’ll absolutely shit the bed on. They’ll do cool things like direct traffic in congested cities! “Deal with” inevitable climate change refugees, etc. That’ll be cool right!? Gah why’s it always yes gotta be doom & gloom with you all?? Grow up, etc etc

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

again this is not about jackass succeeding in doing this, it's about his legitinmizing the prospect with idiots and bad actors, and making an even deeper mess of the election

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

wonder if election delay talk will be a bridge too far even for tucker c and hannity

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

never. tucker and hannity are competing to see who gets to be goebbels

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

Herman Cain dead.

akm, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link

Excelsior

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

He was a pioneer and an innovator. Like Sarah Palin, Cain helped to forge the path to our present shitstorm.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

9
9
9

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXdLCEjEAtg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

pokemon go to hell

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

it's gonna be so weird when Trump acknowledges this considering that his Tulsa rally is literally what killed him

frogbs, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

Maybe if there had been more people there herd immunity would have saved him, I think that's how it works. Herd just wasn't big enough.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

And yeah this might be to distract from the funeral. Also the fed just announced the biggest gdp drop in history which is bad according to conventional wisdom.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^ hence why he posted that tweet

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:28 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

This isn't 5D chess, it's simple psychological manipulation. He's been covering his fuckups his whole life, it's his MO.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Eto2Zhb.jpg

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

We Think You're Dead

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

lol

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

herman cain made his fortune in pizza, no? this impeachable tweet is all the more WTF

Support Patio Pizza and its wonderful owner, Guy Caligiuri, in St. James, Long Island (N.Y.). Great Pizza!!! @Varneyco

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 30, 2020

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

he needed a new pizza guy

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

Hmph. Bet that pizza place doesn't even HAVE a decent sex-trafficking dungeon.

Gin and Juice Newton (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

Michael Flynn case to be reheard by full federal appeals court in D.C. https://t.co/bulqLlxAcc

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 30, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/politics/trump-election-tweet-republican-reaction/index.html

exactly as expected. softly saying "no, dearie, no", as daintily as they can without upsetting their dear pustulent leader

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

Mitch & Co know how to steal elections in Nov/Dec (20th anniversary tour).

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

XP: There's been a group of ~80 leaders emeritus who've gamed out scenarios for how Trump can interfere with electoral results:

WBUR: On Point: This War Game Maps Out What Happens If The President Contests The Election.

IIRC, delaying the election wasn't mentioned, but there's a lot of dire things that Trump could do, particularly with mail-in ballots. Voter suppression leads to a closer election than polls, a contested swing state, Covid-19 scare used to prevent mail in ballot counting, the DHS nazis called to street protests, and there's no one in the government in a good position to fight back. The presidency holds all the Federal law enforcement, and the career millitary guy on the program (Lawrence Wilkerson, aide to Sec State Powell) was practically begging the military to stay in their barrocks.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

Voter suppression is one they're already actively pursuing.

They have to lean on state legislatures and Governors for that, but they have enough cronies to do that around the country.

ACLU probably gonna be at the ready with tons of state lawsuits for States disenfranchising voters or disallowing vote by mail. I don't have huge confidence that this SCOTUS would rule in their favor on most, but...gotta try.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/politics/trump-economic-approval-rating-analysis/index.html

But Trump now may be seeing this advantage dissipate. His approval on the economy has seen a dramatic decline since the beginning of the year, and he's lost his edge on the economy over former Vice President Joe Biden.

NO WAY, Harry!

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

I do love how he's losing his "edge" to someone who is, afaict, literally doing next to nothing beyond existing as an alternative. Trump would probably lose his edge to Pop-tarts.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

don't forget tho, Bernie would've lost massively to him, acc to all the DNC assbags

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

what's with the avalanche of assbags today

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

just a passing whimsical fancy

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

we're brainstorming podcast segment names for Defector

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

don't forget tho, Bernie would've lost massively to him, acc to all the DNC assbags

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:42 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Six months ago, I was making the electability argument for Bernie to anyone who would listen. Four months ago, I even voted for him. Now, I have to admit, I'm kind of glad that the nominee is a moderate who can promise baseline competency and won't scare anyone. That's not to say that Bernie wouldn't have won, but he would've made me nervous.

jaymc, Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

I think the fact that he kinda got stomped by Biden despite his core issues being more relevant than ever points to the fact that people just really fuckin hated Hillary Clinton

frogbs, Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

My friend Herman Cain, a Powerful Voice of Freedom and all that is good, passed away this morning. Herman had an incredible career and was adored by everyone that ever met him, especially me. He was a very special man, an American Patriot, and great friend. I just got off...

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 30, 2020

uhh

frogbs, Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

2016 was extremely weird in terms of both candidates having such high 'negatives' among voters. Trump's were higher than HRC's, but both were at historically high levels.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

xpost LOL

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

helluva place to end your first tweet in a two tweet post

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

tmi tweet

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

I just got off in honor of this great patriot

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

I was there in 1988
I was there at the premier of Rain Man at Lincoln Center
I'm losing my edge
I'm losing my edge to the elderly neolibs whose loafers I hear when they get on the hustings
I'm losing my edge to the Tweeters who can tell me every VP nominee from 1956 to 2008
I'm losing my edge

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

lol @Morbs - stealing that

DJI, Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

amazing, the world is stupider every day

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

at least i stole it from our resident DNC assbag

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

What an asshole this guy is. https://t.co/LK3wiIDmxK

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 30, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

I am dying at Trump's tweet cutoff, I know it's unproductive to laugh at a dumb person, but I can't stop, I'm sorry

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 30 July 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

Worth watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLm0r3gOpU4

DJI, Thursday, 30 July 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

Obama just called for eliminating the filibuster if "that's what it takes" to pass new voting rights laws, calling it "a Jim Crow relic"

— Grace Panetta (@grace_panetta) July 30, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 July 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

Wow I guess Bill Clinton is totally not gonna get reelected

Gin and Juice Newton (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

he'll be elected to speak at all our funerals

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

(for a price)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

i'm worried about ilhan omar in the primary now btw. i should not have been so glib about it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

caek, what have you done!!

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

rats, sinking ship, etc

Steven Calabresi. https://t.co/Vf99LoiRi9 pic.twitter.com/F8OqFI0Ky3

— Orin Kerr (@OrinKerr) July 30, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link

it just occurred to me... this guy is a fascist!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

Keep feeling fascist nation
Passion burning
Love so strong

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

Imagine that tweet is what puts you over the edge. Takes a special person.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link

he sounds not just very concerned but very very concerned

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

caek, what have you done!!

― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, July 30, 2020 5:29 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

when i am glib about people they lose elections! it is a terrible curse!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

Josh you are on FIYAH in term of bringing the lolz lately. Whatever you are drinking, I want some.

Gin and Juice Newton (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

caek where is this newfound worry coming from? i've been ready to pull the trigger on a donation but only if it's actually needed.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 31 July 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link

Is this tied to a possible scandal about funneling campaign donations to her husband?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 31 July 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link

the photo of him “reviewing the donor list looking for your name” is pure MAGA heroin for you 78 year old relative on a fixed income who’s convinced MS-13 is one caravan away from kicking down their door https://t.co/5oZjlGfuVM

— kilgore trout, new tone haver (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 30, 2020

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 July 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link

I've never understood why, if your gift will be 600% matched toward a $25M goal, the matcher doesn't just pony up $20M and be done with it.

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 31 July 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

Drives other people to donate IIRC

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 31 July 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link

President Donald Trump‘s baseless Wednesday morning question about postponing the 2020 general election has been given new life. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo suggested the final decision on any such postponement hinges upon whether Attorney General Bill Barr and others at the DOJ can find a legal justification to change the date.

“Can a president delay the November presidential election, Mr. Secretary?” Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) asked during a Senate hearing. “You are one of the most highly trained and accomplished lawyers who are part of this administration,” Kaine summarized, “Can a president delay a presidential election?”

To which Pompeo replied: “In the end, the Department of Justice, and others, will make that legal determination. We all should want – I know you do, too, Senator Kaine – want to make sure to have an election that everyone is confident in.”

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/legal-experts-erupt-after-mike-pompeo-says-bill-barr-will-determine-whether-to-postpone-the-election/

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link

wouldn't be surprised if that no-neck actually has no idea about the chain of command there.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 July 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link

caek where is this newfound worry coming from? i've been ready to pull the trigger on a donation but only if it's actually needed.

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, July 30, 2020 8:08 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

1. this cryptic tweet from a guy who i know some people here don't like, but he does have a record of calling squad-related races

https://t.co/mxFreGNhkC https://t.co/jvD0DrzTTR

— sean (@SeanMcElwee) July 29, 2020

that's this PAC https://theintercept.com/2020/06/15/gop-republican-super-pac-eliot-engel-jamaal-bowman/ and they don't have a great record, and maybe they're spending it all on yard signs and i'm worrying about nothing.

2. one of my arguments that she wasn't in a real race was that, if the one of the best known and most hated people in congress was in a real primary then there would be national coverage but there wasn't any. and then there was some coverage.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link

Rendering millions of people homeless is probably an effective voter suppression strategy

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

especially if you do it in a census year

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:43 (three years ago) link

the census counts homeless people

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 31 July 2020 05:16 (three years ago) link

in theory, sure.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 31 July 2020 05:43 (three years ago) link

more on omar's primary https://primaries.substack.com/p/issue-75

MN-05: While Rashida Tlaib was an outsider to the Detroit establishment when she ran for Congress in 2018, and has been repeatedly accused of sticking out from the city’s politicians in terms of demeanor (for the record: we agree, and that’s a good thing), Ilhan Omar is a kind of politician that fits right in to Minneapolis’s political culture. Omar may appear to some on the national stage like a strident lefty idealist, but compared to a city council that’s dipping its toes in police abolition (likely in name only, but still quite a change from what most other city councils are doing), Omar isn’t such an outlier. Minneapolis’s 5th district was the only one in the state to vote for Bernie in 2020, and Bernie and Warren combined to 61% of the vote, compared to 45% statewide (and less nationally on Super Tuesday). The district also voted for progressive Erin Murphy in the 2018 governor primary. Omar also has the party endorsement in her race. She is not an anti-establishment politician at home.

The danger she faces is the inverse of Tlaib’s: her opponent, Antone Melton-Meaux, is raising and spending absolutely bonkers amounts of money. He was at $3.6 million a month ago, and hitting $4 million is nearly a forgone conclusion. Yesterday, a filing revealed that Colorado Governor Jared Polis is one of those donors. Another donor is Cheryl Greene, wife of MN-02 representative Angie Craig. Craig hasn’t endorsed in this race, and obviously she and Greene are separate people even if they’re married. The possibility that Greene donated without regard to Craig's stance on the race would be easier to accept if she hadn’t donated exactly $199, the largest dollar amount you donate before it shows up on FEC filings. She knew what she was doing. The reason we know she donated at all is because ActBlue, which is technically a PAC, has to enumerate all of its donations in a separate filing. Another nearly $1.5 million has been spent from a mostly GOP-funded super PAC to attack Omar.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 31 July 2020 05:44 (three years ago) link

if it takes place in full

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 31 July 2020 05:48 (three years ago) link

xp

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 31 July 2020 05:48 (three years ago) link

Y’all the Census is so effed this decade. I’m pretty sure congress will not grant them anymore time and approx 4 out of 10 households have not responded

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link

Sorry that should be only 4 of 10 houses have responded

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 11:05 (three years ago) link

Ignore my last post. We're at 63% self-response for the Census so far.

https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link

the final self-response rate in 2010 was only 74%, we aren't doing too badly in 2020 so far... they'll send like half a million enumerators out to count the rest in person.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 31 July 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

A month earlier than original scheduled ... several months after it was *actually* originally scheduled. It was originally supposed to be over by July 31.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

Fauci testifying in his baseball mask

Stevolende, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

this is also the first census where you can respond online so the self response rates are pretty discouraging. there was 68% response rate by mail/phone in april of 2010. plus, as mentioned, field ops are going to be very limited.

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

we responded twice online, myself and my wife. I assume they reconcile these things somehow.

akm, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

we can definitely count on this administration to add and subtract with precision

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 July 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

akm, did you both use your census ID?

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

to streamline wasteful government regulations and policies, this year everyone the same Census ID: AMERICA45

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

I wasn't going to fill out the census because I wanted to deprive my Republican district of one body but I gave in and did it online so I didn't have to dodge a door knocker (without a census ID because I threw away everything they mailed).

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

somehow it doesn’t surprise me at all that you had the cool idea to stick it to the man by not filling out the census

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

The census apportions money for a lot of government services used by the poor. It doesn't give the republicans more power to be counted, especially at the district level, compared to the state level.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

I wasn't going to fill out the census

This is unconscionable.

jaymc, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

i filled mine out....few months ago I think.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

"akm, did you both use your census ID?"

no idea but I assume so

akm, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

the census: pretty important

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

I wasn't going to fill out the census

as a one-time enumerator I feel personally attacked right in the heart music

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

if you don't have your ID on hand you could use your address instead. the match rates are pretty high but the internet self-response app was pretty generous as to what was accepted. there were responses from foreign addresses for instance

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

who the fuck doesn't have minutes to do this shit online?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

Also, the mailer I received took ~5 minutes to fill out. Dropped it off at the post office box down the street while walking the dog on the same day I got it. There's legit no excuse for not doing it.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

But but but the census is from the government and it is made of 5G and will track your thoughts and fill you with demon sperm while making you go to Comet Ping Pong

Gin and Juice Newton (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

Or you know the government is actively trying to kick me out of the country through the census

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

little known fact - the census was used for interning japanese-americans during WWII

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

So yes, again my hyperbole gets the better of me, but there are few reasons to not fill out the census.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

I filled it out but didn't use our real names - my wife and I are recorded as Adult Human Person 1 and Adult Human Person 2.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

Dumb question, but if the 2010 self-response rate was 74%, does that mean they had to have people personally contact the other 26%?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 July 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

Yeah, through a project called Non-Response follow-up

Heez, Friday, 31 July 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

So that could be 80-90 million people? Woof.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 July 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

in 2010 they hired 650,000 enumerators to do that

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

"ma'am, what's your name?"

"Donna Rhia"

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

^^^ Reminds me of my all time favorite punk rock stage name - 45 Grave singer Dinah Cancer.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

Kusnher should be spit upon by every New Yorker that sees him. I hope they make it so bad him and the princess cannot live in their tower no more.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/928628/white-house-reportedly-scrapped-national-testing-plan-because-virus-mostly-hitting-blue-states

earlnash, Friday, 31 July 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

I also guess this is why I got a couple of media mail orders that got scanned in Lexington nearly a month ago and not moved since.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/postal-service-backlog-sparks-worries-that-ballot-delivery-could-be-delayed-in-november/2020/07/30/cb19f1f4-d1d0-11ea-8d32-1ebf4e9d8e0d_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most

I bet this is a big damn mess considering it makes total sense to cut hours when everyone in the f-ing country is doing mailorder more than ever.

earlnash, Friday, 31 July 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

cool another thing he can't do that'll languish in courts for months

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:06 (three years ago) link

another thing he can't do

There's probably some overly broad law passed by a supine Congress that allows the president to declare TikTok a threat to national security, or an unfair competitor to US business, or some other vague bin it can be shoved into without much in the way of defined and measurable criteria. There are an amazing number of such laws and all it takes is a phalanx of assiduous lawyers searching the gazillion pages of the US law code to find some suitable fig leaf Trump can claim gives him that power.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link

another good point pointed out by Aimless, thanks Aimless

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link

oh well fuck TikTok anyway

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

We beat Obama 4 years ago, he worked harder than Crooked Hillary, and we’ll do it again! https://t.co/oaqnlkr7bW

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 1, 2020

this seems like one of the questions that would've been on the cognitive test

frogbs, Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link

he's referring to the peepee incident

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:34 (three years ago) link

"Crooked Hillary"...dusting off the old chestnuts.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link

Banning TikTok might be the trigger to drive record 18-24 turnout.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 1 August 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link

be so good if Tik Tok helped ban him, probably going to happen anyway isn't it.
nice precedent from tulsa anyway.

Stevolende, Saturday, 1 August 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link

What's the real motivation behind the tik tok thing? I suspect it has little to do with security, or even China. Is it just another "I can do what I want" gesture, or merely trying to piss a certain demographic off? This is so bizarre

Ariana Grindr (rip van wanko), Saturday, 1 August 2020 10:33 (three years ago) link

Sarah Cooper's videos, probably.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Saturday, 1 August 2020 10:46 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/31/portland-protests-latest-peaceful-night-federal-troops-withdrawal

does this mean the americapocalypse is cancelled

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 August 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

dusting off the old chestnuts

Sounds like a euphemism

Gin and Juice Newton (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 August 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

New month, new thread?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 August 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

still voting for The Country Is In Very Good Shape Other Than If You Look South or West

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 August 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

So many good options, sorry Morbs.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Saturday, 1 August 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link


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