“Monk could have just picked my little ass up and thrown me through a wall”: 2007 Jazz D-bags Thread

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Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

ITEM: Vijay Iyer + Mike Ladd , Still Life With Commentator. This is one hell of a pretentious disc, weird jazz & avant-garde compositions (really I mean it this time, free-form stuff and opera warbling) punctuated by Ladd's spoken word stuff and other spoken-word things by other people from other countries in other languages, all of it focusing on the evil news media and how it shapes our perceptions of the world. It's confusing and hectoring and one-sided and relentlessly weird and not all that much "fun" to listen to...

...predictably, then, I love it so far.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah title quote
comes from miles davis of course,
NO ONE EFFED WITH MONK

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet Mingus would eff with Monk

rock and roll for the rock and roll soul (nate_patrin), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

they didnt need to though, they respected the crap out of each other -- BEAR NOT FIGHT SHARK

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

ITEM: Brad Shepik Trio, Places You Go. Guitar player from (the tiny-bit-alt-country-ish-jazz-band) Mr. Lucky fronts a little tiny band of himself and organ and drums. It sounds pretty cozy and fusion-ish sometimes, but the soloists are kinda edgy in subtle ways, and it never bogs down in boringosity. Well, seldom.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

ITEM: Stefano Bollani, Piano Solo. This is a pretty descriptive title, just him playing songs. Some are more ambitious than others. It's pretty stuff, both his originals and his covers, and he is very talented. But in general he seems to be aiming somewhere in the middle of Erroll Garner and Brad Mehldau and Thelonious Monk and Keith Jarrett. Sadly, there isn't really a centerpoint there, so it ends up being really hard to keep this out of the "background music" category.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Two great records from '06 which would have been on my list had I heard them then:

Nick Barscht's Ronin, Stoa (minimal as fuck, not jazz but on ECM)
Dave Holland Quintet, Critical Mass

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I have that Nik Barscht record, it's ace. I think it counts as jazz though, and not just for its record label. Haven't heard that Dave Holland thing but he's smart and great and has good taste in bandmembers.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

ITEM: J.A. Granelli & Mr. Lucky, Homing: A Feeling in Nine Parts. Granelli is a bass player who fronts this occasional band (see Brad Shepik, above). This is slow and alt.-ish and bluesy and considered and measured and soulful, muy country-prog in many places (Pink Floyd seems to be a major influence, also Grateful Dead and Mark Knopfler) but also has at least one New Orleans organ jazzfunk number.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

ahhhh this thread I want to participate in but the last year I listened to nu-jazz was circa Dave Douglas' "Soul on Soul" critic-domination. Thats a great album though!

but yeah plz recommend things and Cibula ... alt-ish? bluesy? COUNTRY PROG??? yik4s

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

We'll turn you into a fusty rock crit yet, Deej. But better.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

The Mingus record At UCLA 1965 completely passed me by, I had no idea it existed until last week. This is one of those mythic sessions, is it not? Good band. Worth getting?

mcd (mcd), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I got that. I've only listened a couple times but it certainly had its moments... I need to listen to it again before saying much more but it is worth it for the interlude where Mingus kicks half the band off the stage for starting a song late.

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

deej don't be disgusted, I'm just using labels so you can understand what to expect from that record. it's a very different sort of thing, unusual and gentle. not very exciting, but that's the dealio.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

really I mean it this time

You call that avant-garde?! My grandmother used to whistle more avant-garde things than that!

Vijay Iyer is one of those artists I want to like, but I haven't been into anything I've heard by him.

R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

R_S dont take this the wrong way but you must have had a very talented grandmother.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

The one record of Vijays' that I heard was over my head, metrically and otherwise. I wasn't feeling it but it's really intricate and worked out, for sure.

I like Mike Ladd's solo stuff (Nostalgiator etc.) better than his jazz-collab records.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Vijay as a sideman on Rudresh Mahanthappa's albums, and their duo disc was good.

Did I send you that Still Life disc, mc? I know I sent it to somebody for review in GR.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I own no Vijay Ayer rekkids, but I saw him once at the Jazz Standard and it was pretty cool. w/ Rudresh Mahanthappa on alto.
(xpst)

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Phil: yes, yes you did.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Mcd, I ended up voting for Mingus as my fave album of the year. It's heroic, and not just because dude is one of my heroes.

A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I just remembered Han Bennik is tonight at Tonic - almost forgot. Any major douchebags want to go?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds good, but I probably can't do it tonight.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, how does it work, he has a different guest 'friend' everytime?

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

You see, the wording here is a little confusing:
Guests (date of appearance tba): Dave Douglas, Marcus Rojas, Thomas Heberer, Anthony Coleman, Ellery Eskelin, Joachim Badenhorst, Brad Jones.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, I see- it's tonight and tomorrow.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, Tonic's got some interesting shit going on. If I could I would see Calvin Weston, the balkan gypsy night, "Buffalo Collision" (Dave King yo). Also my friend's band is playing on the 27th.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

off topic-I'm moving to Chicago next week, what (and where, I guess) do I need to check out there?

Devin King (Devin King), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 05:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Sad indeed that I couldn't go and can't go tomorrow either. FMU was playing some downright sick record of him with an Ethiopian singer in the run-up to the live Ex set (Bennink has some connection with them)

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Charlie Parker once told me "Jazzy, shut up and pass the heroin"

Matt Dorinsky (Matt Dorinsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 05:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Devin: you can start at the Green Mill I'm guessing. Classic joint, some people on this thread have even played there! (Or done poetry there yay.)

Matt D: don't do that anymore please.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Mister King... what you into?

Lotsa stuff happening here that I'm too old/lazy to check up on but maybe I can help:

Fave drinking spots: Danny's, Matchbox
Historical: Green Mill, Rainbow
Trendy: Sonotheque
Plus the usual regular venues: Empty Bottle, Hideout et al

loads of good eats and great architecture

factcheckr (factcheckr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

uh Jazz Showcase is where the big names come through, 59 W. Grand

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Near the Grand red line stop

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a place on the near-south side east of chinatown that I forget the name of that has lots of AACM dudes perform, somewhere around 20th and State I think. Maybe 20th or 21st and wabash? its on the other side of the hilliard towers, those half-gentrified projects you see from the el tracks at chinatown

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Velvet Lounge?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

thats it! 2128 1/2 S Indiana Ave. Apparently they just relocated though, to 67 East Cermak according to the website. Thats basically right around the corner, closer to the Chinatown el stop actually.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Also a good place to hang out if you want to meet panhandlers

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

here's a story about it

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

In April, Anderson had been forced to close his Velvet Lounge club, on South Indiana Avenue, to make way for a condo development.

fucking nasty.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

The condos they've developed in the south loop are some of the ugliest. I guess its better than building them in places with existing residential neighborhoods but still

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks everybody!

As for what I'm into--I'm just starting to expand into freer territory --I've been digging Brotzmann and Archie Shepp recently--but I'm also interested in dropping into open mike nights and just listening to standards.

Honestly, I'm pretty psyched on it all right now and am trying to gobble up as much as I can.

Devin King (Devin King), Thursday, 11 January 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

This sunday kahil el zabar is at sonotheque. i'm currently trying to figure out how to go to both that and farley jackmaster funk at ohm.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

My band will be at the Mill in a month (Feb. 16th & 17th).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

jordan remind me in a couple weeks

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

will do

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

His playing drives everything, and that's okay by me, although he might want to think twice about relying quite so much on the tappy-tappy cymbal thing next time out.

Hey, thanks for the warning. You know who you are. That was the only review I clicked on, because the guy's name looked interesting.

R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link

(Actually, in fairness to everyone, I realized it wasn't my type of thing earlier in the review.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

but he's a really good drummer though!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

via: http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?t=18770

David Torn - Prezens

It's been ten years since his last album and this time he will be backed by Tim Berne, Tom Rainey and Craig Taborn.

ECM
April 17th

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

He's been mixing and doing sound processing for all those Berne records, right?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

- Trio of Doom: a release on Sony Legacy of an historic session (nearly a legend...) between John McLaughlin, Tony Williams and Jaco Pastorius.

Haha, this is finally coming out.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Han Bennink show was really fun, especially when Anthony Coleman was playing. Jimmy Mohammed rekkid is good too.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Trio of Doom: a release on Sony Legacy of an historic session (nearly a legend...) between John McLaughlin, Tony Williams and Jaco Pastorius.

Why do I have a bad feeling I won't like this?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard one track from this in high school, I forget where. Those dudes can play ALL THE NOTES.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

cuz u don't like Jaco?
(xpost)

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, that's why

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/Live-New-York-City-Vol/dp/B0000019UB/ref=m_art_li_5/002-8365125-0202450

Little-known album that I loved in high school. Jaco/Hiram Bullock/Kenwood Dennard, bootleg quality, playing standards and Hendrix and Sly Stone songs. It sounds like garage jazz and made me think "hey, me and my friends can do this maybe!"

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

The Torn alb sounds great. I saw him play w/ the Tim Berne group a few years ago and they were absolutely amazing - Torn was sampling/manipulating the live sound and it worked a treat.

I recently d/loaded the most recent Dave Douglas alb, Meaning and Mystery - has that been issued yet? I missed Chris Potter from the line-up, and while it's another wonderfully played/composed alb it doesn't sound THAT different from the last cpl of Douglas recs - I think he poss. needs to ring the changes again

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Lost jam session featuring John Coltrane, Tony Williams, God, Jesus Christ, Jaco Pastorious... "Hmm, somehow I doubt this is going to be any good"

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

caught the end of kahil el zabar, was great!

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

On another note, I just might go to see Claudia Acuña at the Jazz Standard tonight.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard a track called "Aperture" from the new Vandermark 5 album A Discontinuous Line on the radio last night. Very impressive. Started out as snappy post-bop, and evolved into some sturdy improv. Lots of great arco bass, and later a bass duo (I think), plucked, that was just screaming. A lot of Ken Vandermark I can take or leave, and so was a little surprised at how much I liked this. Hope the rest is as good.

mcd (mcd), Monday, 22 January 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"Aperture" is def one of the stand out tracks on the record, but the whole thing is very good. And the bass duo is actually bass and cello, Fred Longberg-Holm is playing cello in the new line-up. This might be my favorite Vandermark 5 album.

chris besinger (chris besinger), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, wow, that was a cello! Cool.

mcd (mcd), Monday, 22 January 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, I love the jazz bass/cello duo sound - I'll have to check that out.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsBC5C5ERho

dude lip synching to Bird and Diz with Monk and Buddy Rich (playing Leap Frog, i'm told, 1952)

Donald (donald), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

So I did indeed go to the last show- the late show- of Claudia Acuña at the Jazz Standard on Friday, and it was very good. I don't know how popular she could ever be with the ILX hivemind- she doesn't use any melisma, and she's probably not Telemundo enough for Haikunym or Larue, but if you want a jazz singer who can sing the melody straight and pay attention to the words and inspire her band to dig into a groove and go off on it, then she's your girl.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Friday, 26 January 2007 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

On Monday I went back to see the early show of David Murray and his Black Saint Quartet, which was a very different kind of show, but also very good.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Friday, 26 January 2007 02:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I reject the charge that I only like Telemundo artists. I am also a Univision whore.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 26 January 2007 03:06 (seventeen years ago) link

'Sequel' (late '06) is frighteningly good. Starts off very 'Cartridge Music' in its articulation of noize but once it gets off that plane it goes into a million places and pieces, and never ever stays in one for too long, even when you're enjoying the totally off-the-wall combination this ensemble just came up with. That's ok tho' - there is almost no way every section is 'right'. Case in point would be the almost Zappa-like soloing - not too bad at all but it seems to dominate for a bit too long.

Only given it the once over so far - but I'd say its a keeper!!

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

That does look cool, lotta laptops in that band. Are there beats or is it free?

(hey Julio!)

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

That Sequel record looks sick. Nice to see Mutamassik in that band, I love her DJ mixes. And you know, the rest of those dudes aren't bad either!

mcd (mcd), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

There are the odd beats (I think! So much to digest), then distorted beats, and then out of nowhere some african sounding drumming comes in - with something else - this bit totally threw me off, which is good.

(hey Jordan!) xp

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Is anyone else digging the new Sonny Rollins, "Sonny, Please"? My first favorite album of the year.

A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Saturday, 27 January 2007 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

This Ned Rothenberg thing on Tzadik sounds like it could be pretty good.

Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Monday, 29 January 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

(btw, listening to the other tracks in "Sequel" -- not quite as devastating, maybe, but this whole thing obv riffs on afro-futurism if you just take the titles -- "Octavia's dream", "Calling all Cyborgs (after Sun Ra)")

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The great jazz writer Whitney Balliet has died. Here's Doug Ramsey's appreciation (scroll down):

http://www.artsjournal.com/rifftides/

totph (Totph), Friday, 2 February 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I just wanted to note that every time I see this thread title, I picture Tony Shaloub turning into the Hulk.

Sorry to interrupt.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 2 February 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sorry to hear that Mr. Balliett has passed away.

Back when I was starting to get into jazz — mainly the avant-garde end, like Trane, Braxton and the Art Ensemble — in the 70's, I wrote off mainstream critics like Balliett and Leonard Feather, who had little good to say about the stuff I liked. But, here and there, I've come across their words online, or quoted by other writers, in the last few years (plus my in-laws gave me Balliett's Collected Works for Xmas a couple of years ago), and found them to be quite good, even if I don't/didn't share their mindset. And it's not like good jazz writers grow on trees these days, after all. R.I.P.

This takes some of the edge off my two-martini buzz (hey! my first drunken ILM post!) — I've just gotten back from seeing Charles Tolliver's big band.

(When I see this thread title, I think of Monk's side of the story — "Miles got killed if he hit me.")

One black coffee, please.

mark 0 (mark 0), Saturday, 3 February 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey dbags, maybe not everyone knows this, there's a low activity ilm/ysi google group set up to augment ilm jazz threads. http://groups.google.com/group/ysijazz Please join if you're interested.

mcd (mcd), Saturday, 3 February 2007 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Add my tip of the hat for Whitney Balliett. I love his Blossom Dearie piece in "American Singers" -- a book I inherited from a late friend. It's all enough to make me use one of those frowny emoticons. Almost.

A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Saturday, 3 February 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

How was that Charles Tolliver thing, mark 0? I was thinking of going to see that.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Saturday, 3 February 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Good, but not great. I didn't go with great expectations. I was disappointed that Billy Harper only took one solo, and it seemed like both he and Tolliver were lacking some of the bravura of their 70's stuff. But it was my first chance to see them (and Cecil McBee, and Howard Johnson, and George Cables, who was great) live, and I couldn't pass it up.

mark 0 (mark 0), Sunday, 4 February 2007 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't know this was the rolling jazz thread until yesterday.

Anyway, I already posted this on the whirled music thread a week and a half ago:

Joe Zawinul's "revisit"-ation ("for the first time") of "Weather Report classics" on his new 2-CD Brown Street features some intriguing salsa interpolations in the title track and "Carnavalito" and maybe "Black Market", but not enough of them, and they're not compelling enough to get me interested in the rest of the album, which is generally pleasant nonetheless, and does make me think I should investigate Weather Report sometime. (I never have before.)

And right now I'm listening to and liking Enrico Rava Quintet's The Word and the Days on ECM. Or at least I am liking it more than I liked Steve Kuhn Trio's Live At Birdland on Blue Note last week. Which was a surprise and a disappointment, given how much I've liked three other Steve Kuhn albums over the past few years (Promises Kept by Steve Kuhn With Strings, Quiereme Mucho by Steve Kuhn Trio, and the reissue of his 1975 Trance.) Someday maybe I'll even try to figure out how come.

xhuxk (xhuck), Monday, 5 February 2007 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the Charles Tolliver Big Band record that's out on Blue Note, I really liked a couple of the song's I heard from it, but the whole thing hasn't done much for me. It has it moments, but overall its a touch too Tonight Show band in some of the arrangements.

Vandermark 5 tour kicks off tomorrow in St Paul, Mn, excited for that

chris besinger (chris besinger), Monday, 5 February 2007 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
I am actually excited about the reissue of Andrew Hill's Compulsion, since the presence of John Gilmore and extra percussion might be enough to make me like it more than other Andrew Hill things I've heard. (I am not a true Jazz D-bag, for those new to the board.) And this is coming out really soon.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I know scott seward just bought a mint vinyl copy for $.50 at an elementary school flea market.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

David Binney & Edward Simon , Oceanas ; very nice largish band combining post - bop jazz with Venezuelan and Brazilian and Argentinean music. Binney had two great albums last year.

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Goddamn I love John Gilmore.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm rather happy to find that emusic has *reissued* Ted Dunbar's three Xanadu records, and I'm now enjoying Opening Remarks (feat. Tommy Flanagan, Sam Jones, Leroy Williams) right now. Ted was my guitar teacher and passed away in 1998. He did stints with Tony Williams Lifetime, Lou Donaldson (search "Fat Mouth" on Pretty Things), Hammet Bluiett (sp?) and Gil Evans among others but never rose to prominence as a performer/recording artist, focusing on teaching and also his work as a pharmacist (!). He played an L5 with his thumb just like Wes and had a really nice sound and concept. RIP

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

[i]I am actually excited about the reissue of Andrew Hill's Compulsion[i]

me too. been streaming ANDREW! on rhapsdoy for a year now, w/gilmore & the great bobby hutcherson, it's the bomb. every andrew hill album I've heard is a little different, ranging from hard bop (PAX and GRASS ROOTS) to out-there stuff like SMOKESTACK w/piano drums & two basses. the recent TIMELINES is just as good as the Blue Notes 60s stuff. here's hoping BLACK FIRE gets reissued too.

m coleman, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Most playable jazz album I've heard this year = Benny Reid Findings (Concord Jazz). Not that I've heard all that many jazz albums this year. But I'd take it over the Enrico Rava Quintet (which didn't really hold up) and Steve Kuhn Trio ones I heard (among a few others that I didn't write down).

xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

From metal thread:

Also listening today to jazz trio Bad Plus's new album Prog, which includes covers of "Tom Sawyer," "Life On Mars," "Everybody Wants To Rule the World," and"This Guy's In Love With You," only one of which was actually a prog song per se, but most of which sound okay (though I actually prefer the two originals at CD's end to most of the cover versions.)

And today I am listening to David Torn's imminent Cloud About Mercury on ECM (featuring Tim Berne, Craig Taborn, and Tom Rainey), and liking the sundry skronk, boogie metal, and harmelodics excursions in tracks number 1, 4, 6, and 7, whatever they are called. (My advance has no titles.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops, got the CD title wrong! It is Prezens, apparently (and Cloud About Mercury was apparently 20 years ago, says the press release.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link

David Torn - Prezens

on myspace listen to 2 tracks

http://www.myspace.com/prezens

djmartian, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like Andrew Hill is playing a lunchtime gig at Trinity Church this coming Thursday.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Did any of you New Yorkers see Wayne Shorter with Eddie Palmieri? How was it?

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess not.

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 March 2007 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

You know what I'm loving now well I'll tell you. Stew Cutler's Trio/Live (with Garry Bruer on drums and Gene Torres on bass). That dude can play some shredding jazz guitar, yo. Also worth mentioning here -- even though I done talked about it on world music thread -- is Sean Noonan Brewed by Noon's record Stories to Tell.

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 26 March 2007 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I've only heard one track off the Noonan record, but it made me want to hear the rest. I'm reviewing the David Torn record for The Wire, and Joshua Redman's new trio disc (which features his dad on two tracks, one of which is a version of Coltrane's "India") for Jazziz. And I bought the last two Burnt Sugar discs I didn't already own this weekend.

unperson, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Who's in the trio?

(rip Dewey)

Jordan, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Three different rhythm sections depending on the track, and to be honest I can't tell 'em apart.

unperson, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

more good marks: Kartet (four Euros with avant/bop chops), The Bay Window -- dumm name though

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
This thread is not easy to find, let me tell you.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

As mentioned on the recent purchases thread, I bought Andrew Hill's Compulsion. I don't love everything about it, but I think there's going to be enough to hook me in overall. Regardless, John Gilmore's soloing on this is fantastic. A lot of it frankly sounds like it could be inserted right into the Arkestra context (not that I think it doesn't fit here).

So does John Gilmore solo like this on his other albums with Andrew Hill?

I'm going to stop now before I start saying a lot of stupid stuff.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

(I may come back later and say a lot of stupid stuff.)

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, John Gilmore. I love his soloing so much.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Really though, compare his playing on Andrew Hill's Compulsion to his playing on Sun Ra's Other Planes of There (recorded a year before). Very close.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 4 May 2007 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I also listened to Ned Rothenberg's Inner Disapora last night, but I was really out of it, struggling to stay awake (and no, that's not a reflection on the album). It's a little bit of a struggle for me since I'm not so big on either tabla or clarinet, but overall, it's pretty impressive. I think I might want to put it in a modern chamber music category more than a jazz category. But I need to listen again.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 4 May 2007 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

re Andrew Hill:

just read in this week's Voice that he passed on April 20. Lung cancer. May he rest in peace.

So if you go here:
http://trinitywallstreet.org/calendar/index.php?event_id=39988
you can watch what was his final concert.

And it's worth it: when you listen, you somehow know that he knew that it would be his Last Date: all at once, the music is ethereal, majestic, and (at points) has that probing intensity of his (a bit like one of my favorite Andrew Hill moments, on the album "Point of Departure" where Dolphy is soloing and Hill keeps whacking away at this one chord, regardless of the other changes going on behind it, and you say to yourself, "Has the piano player lost it, or what?").

So speaking of "Compulsion":

My own all-time favorite NON-SUNRA John Gilmore performance was on "Bliss!" -- which was Pete LaRoca's date (dr) and also featured Walter Booker (b) and Chick Corea (!!). oh man, seek this one out if you can -- amazing record, easily up there on the level of Coltrane himself.

And speaking of whom:

There was a story that I once got word of mouth so I can't ID the date or place or circumstances (presumably a Sun Ra concert) where John Coltrane was in the audience and after the set went running up to John Gilmore exclaiming, "John Gilmore! John Gilmore! YOU'VE GOT THE CONCEPT!!"

j.w., Saturday, 5 May 2007 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Black Fire, mentioned above, was reissued a couple of years ago in the Van Gelder remasters series.

[url=[Removed Illegal Link] a thread on Andrew Hill's passing[/url], j.w.

I like this new Joe Lovano/Hank Jones duets record, Kids.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Saturday, 5 May 2007 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link

amazing record, easily up there on the level of Coltrane himself

I think he is (at least!) on Coltrane's level--period. Not just on one recording. Anyway, he certainly speaks to me in a way that Coltrane does not most of the time.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 5 May 2007 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't Joe Lovano appearing somewhere soon with a nonet with Hank Jones on piano?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 5 May 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

And Vijay and Rudresh are appearing next week at the Jazz Gallery, I think.

From now on when I need to find this thread, I'm searching for "picked" in the title.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 5 May 2007 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Hank and Joe later in the month at Dizzy's.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 5 May 2007 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned Rothenberg toured with Katsuya Yokoyama. Very interesting. That's some serious shakuhachi playing.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 5 May 2007 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Not strictly 2007, other than the fact that you may be reading this in 2007, but WKCR-FM in NYC started a week-long Sam Rivers Celebration today.

The Rivers/Holland/Altschul trio (that overlapped with Anthony Braxton's 70's quartet) will reunite next Friday, which does, in fact, make it a 2007 thing.

mark 0, Saturday, 19 May 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm a little worried about this new Abbey Lincoln record with the non-jazz backing.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 21 May 2007 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I forget to mention that I went to that Vijay Iyer show and it was pretty cool, especially Roy Haynes's grandson Marcus Gilmore on drums. Roy himself was in the audience, but I manage to restrain myself from asking him to autograph my copy of Smoke Stack.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 21 May 2007 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

It's 90s week at Destination Out. Lists and mp3s. Two parts so far.

http://destination-out.com/

The guy who just votes in polls, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't remember what I actually did put on the list I submitted; all I remember is that one minute after I hit "send," I realized I had forgotten to list Charles Gayle's Touchin' On Trane. Luckily, lots of other folks remembered to include it in their rankings.

unperson, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

ILM Best Jazz Albums of the '90s - RESULTS thread!

Jordan, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to see this show and Ben Ratliff OTM as usual.

Matt, control yourself when you see the picture of the bass player.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm a little worried about this new Abbey Lincoln record with the non-jazz backing.

Is it Beatles covers? (She hates the Beatles.)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 28 May 2007 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's just some non-jazz musicians, I think. Why does she hate the Beatles- too much like songwriting-for-hire?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 28 May 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link

kenny are you talking to me or one of the other matts around here?

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 28 May 2007 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

the bassist in question. she's from the five oh thrizzy!

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 28 May 2007 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

It had to be you, Matt.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 28 May 2007 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

She resents what the Beatles and rock did to popular music (moving it away from the whole jazz singer thing). Or she did. I may have read a very old inrterview, I'm not sure.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 28 May 2007 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Her and Sammy Cahn and millions of other people.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 28 May 2007 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

That bass player played a little while ago at the Jazz Standard leading her own trio.

As mentioned on the salsa thread, this dude is playing a freebie in my neighborhood this afternoon.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 24 June 2007 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey guys so end of June and all, what're your personal faves thus far?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 June 2007 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Christ, I'm not sure I've heard a single new jazz record this year.

Oilyrags, Sunday, 24 June 2007 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link

For me, lately, Mario Adnet and his sister Muiza Adnet have been killin' it on Adventure Records; their albums Jobim Jazz and Sings Moacir Santos were both pretty much recorded at the same time and the same way, and they're both amazing. Brazil is way out ahead of us here.

Also: Helene Corrini & Beatrice Graf, 2 Ailes; Lafayette Gilchrist, 3; Jerry Granelli & V16, The Sonic Temple; Kartet, The Bay Window; David Binney & Edwardo Simon, Oceanas; Hiromi's Sonicbloom, Time Control; Anat Cohen, Noir and Poetica; Brad Shepik Trio, Places You Go; Anat Fort, A Long Story; Miroslav Vitous, Universal Syncopations II; Antonio Adolfo & Carol Saboya, Ao Vivo; Misha Piatgorsky, Uncommon Circumstances and Aya.

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 24 June 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Still loving Ned Rothenberg's Inner Diaspora. (I'm not sure I ever made it back to this thread to say how much I liked it after initial ambivalent listens, which, as I said above, were ambivalent mostly becasue of the instrumentation.)

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 24 June 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

And I bet the Brazilians could learn something from it.

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 24 June 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Haven't heard much but the new Joshua Redman trio disc is excellent, as is the recent David S. Ware farewell disc Renunciation. I just got four CDs by Nik Bärtsch's Ronin in the mail, and am gonna check those out this week. Also, the new Arve Henriksen album Strjon is great, if that counts.

unperson, Sunday, 24 June 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm really pretty bad about keeping up with new jazz releases myself.

Hurting 2, Sunday, 24 June 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

But I'm really enjoying Mal Waldron - The Quest and Paul Bley - Closer right now

Hurting 2, Sunday, 24 June 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

hmm, anybody going to see this 70th b-day celebration for Ron Carter in NYC this week? Looks pretty sweet, Hancock, Hall, and a bunch of others. I would go, but I cannot.

tylerw, Sunday, 24 June 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Met Carter the other day at a studio session being run by Bob Belden - an album of former Miles Davis sidemen doing Indian-tinged versions of Davis-identified tunes, with Indian musicians punching in their parts from studios in Bombay. Some of it sounded pretty interesting - the bop-era stuff didn't work all that well, but there were really good versions of early '70s tracks like "Ife" being laid down, too. Lots of good people supposed to be on the final product - Michael Henderson, Pete Cosey, Badal Roy, Gary Bartz (he was there in the studio that day too), Carter, Rudresh Mahanthappa (who obviously never played with Miles but turned up and was invited to play something), Jimmy Cobb...a bunch more, too.

unperson, Sunday, 24 June 2007 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I happened to see Ron Carter play one song yesterday at J&R Music World but then I had to go to be somewhere else.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 24 June 2007 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

hmm, anybody going to see this 70th b-day celebration for Ron Carter in NYC this week? Looks pretty sweet, Hancock, Hall, and a bunch of others. I would go, but I cannot.

They should have gotten Wadada Leo Smith for a VSOP-style quintet.

Sparkle Motion, Sunday, 24 June 2007 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link

All right, I think I'm going to keep on the trombone tip and go see Ray Anderson tonight at The Stone.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I went to 55 Bar and saw this Latin jazz thing led by Marco Marcinko and it was pretty good. Dude on guitar name Vinnie Valentino was burning it up, although if you listen to the stuff on his website, it is way too smoov jazz fusiony for my taste.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 13 July 2007 11:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Roswell Rudd and Yomo Toro = a joy. Thanks for the tip, Phil! Although I don't actually know if that's a 2007 release.

Oilyrags, Friday, 13 July 2007 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link

We're discussing Yomo Toro on this thread? Cool.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 13 July 2007 13:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess we are now. Is there another? I should search.

Oilyrags, Friday, 13 July 2007 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link

People on this thread might be interested.
Rolling salsa, merengue, bachata, and reggaeton thread 2007 (Ladies get in for free)

Although Phil is on both threads. I guess the reason I was surprised is that for a second I thought this was on the other thread.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 13 July 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link

You're discussing Yomo Toro on this thread?

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, his name has been mentioned.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Although if we were to have a discussion, the participants in this thread are basically a superset of those of the other one, so we could probably just as well have it here.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I pretty much know him from Asalto Navideño, in particular "La Murga," which I think might have been a hit at the time.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Unfortunately my discourse on the Espiritu Jibaro album will probably be limited to "Whooo! That's funky!"

Oilyrags, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Is there a good web site or e-mail list for NYC area jazz shows? Like an Oh My Jazzness or something?

Hurting 2, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

is this quote referring to tony shalloub ?

uhrrrrrrr10, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't have anything much to say about Yomo Toro either, except that he seems to me to deserve his enormous reputation. Also, he appears on lots and lots of recordings, into the present.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Is there a good web site or e-mail list for NYC area jazz shows? Like an Oh My Jazzness or something?

The monthly newspaper, All About Jazz, is a good source - you can find it in jazz clubs and record stores around the area.

You could also try their website:

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/calendar/calendar.php

o. nate, Friday, 13 July 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

For some reason that calendar site seems to be missing a lot of things that are listed in the print edition. I'd recommend downloading the PDF of the print version from here, and scrolling through to the Event Calendar section:

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/newyork/

o. nate, Friday, 13 July 2007 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

All About Jazz is good. I think I'm going to try to see this month's cover boy this weekend, even though I don't like the venue he is at.

A good starting point is the Times Jazz Listings that comes out on Thursday night. Here is the latest:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/13/arts/music/13jazz.html

which also can be accessed through a link in the middle column of

http://nytimes.com/pages/arts/music/

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Coming September 18:

MILES DAVIS – The Complete On The Corner Sessions 6-CD box set (Columbia/Legacy)
By 1970, Miles Davis was on his way to creating a new orchestral approach to jazz music, one that drew from Ellington, incorporated electronic sounds and colors. His “jungle sound” would be developed out of these early-seventies experiments, and in his music would retain the spirit of renewal of an artist ever-changing. Don Alias remembers the time preceding the On The Corner sessions. “We had finished this tour of Europe [fall of ’71] and Miles had decided to go for a more funk oriented sound.” Jack DeJohnette rejoined the band upon its return to Europe. Keith Jarrett left by the end of 1971. The musical continuity that had begun with Coltrane ended with Jarrett and David Liebman. There would no longer be a majority of musicians within the band who had strong musical ties to the Davis tradition. Davis had moved closer and closer to the funk based sound of James Brown and Sly Stone, and the musicians he hired began to reflect this direction in his tastes. The first musician Davis would hire was Michael Henderson, an accomplished funk bass player. Henderson’s “locked in” bass grooves simplified the ground that Davis wanted to walk on. Davis’ sound headed to the bottom of the band. On The Corner has achieved a level of devotion among the hip cognoscenti. The LP, when issued, was received favorably by the newly converted Davis fans, as well as by the black music audience that had been following Miles. But the jazz critical establishment, which was still hung up on “Jazz-Rock-Fusion,” couldn’t find a kind word to say about it. On many levels, On The Corner was ahead of its time in the jazz world, but not so in the contemporary classical world. Tape manipulation was developed by the Paris and Darnstadt schools during the 1950s. Emerging from this world came Karlheinze Stockhausen, who became a “celebrity” in this world. Soon, all known musical boundaries were challenged, as much as Schoenberg did in the late nineteenth century. Paul Buckmaster brought that influence into Davis’ musical world and freed up Davis’ idea of “groove.” Buckmaster’s early experiments as a composer with what we would call today “looping” opened the mind of Davis and paved the way for his modus operandi from 1972 until 1980.

unperson, Friday, 13 July 2007 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Plus, Hurting, if your question is serious, you could just check the websites of the various places like

http://www.jazzstandard.net/red/secondary/jazzCalendar.html
http://www.kitano.com/default.htm
http://www.55bar.com/

I'm thinking of going to one of the Monday or Tuesday shows at the Standard, if not both.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 14 July 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://cahlsjukejoint.blogspot.com/2007/08/bassist-art-davis-dies.html

Coltrane bassist Art Davis RIP

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 August 2007 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I saw this vocalist Mina Agossi the other day at the Jazz Standard. She performs with bass and drums and that's it (she loves Jimi Hendrix).

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Would ya pay money for a cd from her? Did you think she was good?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 September 2007 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

You mean you want me to post my opinion, my honest opinion, Steve? The next day I went out and bought a CD and I still can't make up my mind. She does lots of percussive sound effects that go along well with what the drummer is doing and I liked what they did with the trio format, they took their time to work a groove and didn't just go into a freakout jam to fill the space (the bass player could be considered to have cheated a little I guess, by hitting a little switch to loop a line and then playing against that, but this turned out to be a good idea), but there is something about her vocals that are a little too major key, breathy and "look at me, I'm singing and smiling!" that I can't decide whether I like or dislike.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 6 September 2007 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Got Andrew Hill's Change from Amazon yesterday. It's a 1966 quartet date with Sam Rivers, originally paired with Rivers' Dimensions & Extensions under the double-album title Involutions, now out as part of Blue Note's Connoisseur Series. It's not as free as Compulsion, but it's pretty out with some nice trio cuts to moderate the generally headlong pace, and highly recommended.

unperson, Thursday, 6 September 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I've really been liking Eric Reed - "Here." I forget when it's from at the moment (2004?) -- trio album with Rodney Whitaker and Willie Jones. It's not groundbreaking, but it's such a nice, tight piano trio album and it sounds so good. Falls on the headier side of straight-ahead, with a lot exploration in the middle range of the piano and very little pyrotechnic work. Maybe a bit of Herbie Nichols in it, and a bit of Keith Jarrett.

Hurting 2, Friday, 7 September 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51uR47Id14L._SS500_.jpg

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 8 September 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't even really like John McLaughlin, but that cover!

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 8 September 2007 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Dear Jazz Douche-Bags,

Four years after leaving Boston for LA, I still miss going to see The Fringe at the Lizard Lounge. "Pretend" I know nothing about jazz. Where can I go or what can I legally buy to get a similar experience?

xoxo,

Lukas

lukas, Friday, 14 September 2007 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Went to see Franciso Mela lead a quartet at Cachaça last night. Hardly anybody was there for the 9 o'clock set so they waited until almost ten to start. It was cool, especially the young dude on guitar, Nir Felder, who was really burning it up.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 28 September 2007 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Does anyone have anything interesting to say about Paul Desmond? I always enjoyed his playing with Dave Brubeck a lot more than Brubeck's playing. I just picked up a quartet recording of him w/Jim Hall - Desmond has some really nice improvisatory surprises in his playing, although at other times he sounds kind of rudimentary - at least he generally avoids bop cliches of his time though. Great sound, obv.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, I got nothing for you.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

i haven't heard all that much Desmond -- just the big Brubeck recordings. One of my favorites is the Jazz Impressions of Japan LP, which at first glance sounds kind of cringe-worthy, but it's actually a really deep, melancholy recording. Desmond sounds great on that one. He's good on that Concierto record with Jim Hall, too. That's a nice album, for sure -- Chet Baker and Ron Carter are on there as well.

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I originally opened this thread to rep for my neighbor, guitar player Jim Hershman, who last night did excellent versions of "Embraceable You" and then "Little Wing," with all the bells and whistles, at his usual Monday night gig at a nice bar/restaurant down the block called Novo.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

what city?

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

New York. Borough of Queens.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

A funny thing happened last night while I was at the jazz club- you know those weird humming/grunting noises you sometimes hear on jazz recordings, presumably from one of the players being picked up by a drum or piano mic? (I think they have their own thread). Well, I heard some yesterday, but they weren't coming from the stage, but from the audience.

It was the guy next to me. He was a musician himself, but I don't know if that is a valid excuse.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 26 October 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Here's that other thread: Jazz pianists who make weird humming noises during their improvisations

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 26 October 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

guys that new meshell ndegeocello record is really good

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 November 2007 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Cooper-Moore going wild on mouth bow

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I went looking for videos because I put on Cooper-Moore/Assif Tsahar's America earlier, and it remains one of my favorite albums from the last several years. I like the degree of control on this album, and I like the variety.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 22 November 2007 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just saw George Cartwright, who lives in Mpls now but has been in the free/improv scene forever and played with Ornette, Sharrock and a bunch of famous people...Saw him with a standup bass, drummer, and Andrew Broder from The Fog on guitar...was really great, Cartwright can flat out wail and Broder, who's def. not a school musician in the same way obv as the other dudes, does well by not trying to keep up, but using lots of delay and volume pedals to do atmospheric and textural stuff...they also did a stellar version of "Oxford Town" by Dylan that sounded like Dylan fronting Crazy Horse circa 72 with Steve Mackaye from the Stooges records... so great, I bought a CD by Cartwright called "A Tenacious Slew" which is poetry and the some pretty funky free/funk/improv stuff....local mpls super drummer JT Bates is on that.

http://www.georgecartwright.com/

also bought this record with is fucking AMAZING...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Q73F5BZRL._AA240_.jpg

the vinyl orig. i bought has a way better cover though...

also bought Louis Armstrong - The Town Hall Concert Plus...am liking it...i really like it mostly...for some reason i have trouble with listening to armstrong on the vocal stuff, which i feel bad about for some reason, i guess it seems cheesy to me, but it shouldn't...too much overexposure to "what a wonderful world" over the years...also this is late 40s so maybe a little past his prime?

any Byrd/Armstrong recommendations would be very welcome..thx jazz d-bags thread.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 7 December 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

if yo don't already have the hot 5/hot 7 armstrong stuff, you need it. there are various versions of this material floating around -- I've got the Columbia/Legacy 4-disc set, which can be found for pretty cheap, I think. It's as good as everybody says. I also like some of Armstrong's 50s recordings -- his albums of Fats Waller and W.C. Handy are very nice. As for Donald Byrd, you need "Black Byrd"! One of my fave jazz/fusion/disco/funk records. I actually haven't heard a lot of his earlier hard bop records, though he's good as a sideman on the prestige Coltrane dates.

tylerw, Friday, 7 December 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

i have trouble listening to the good armstrong stuff because of the recording quality :(

Jordan, Friday, 7 December 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

This has a lot of fans over at AAJ. Has anyone here heard it?

http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?z=y&EAN=094639153220&itm=1

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 7 December 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

That's: Terence Blanchard: A Tale of God's Will (A Requiem For Katrina)

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 7 December 2007 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Only listened to clips. I was hoping it would have the second-linish track that plays over the photo montage on the When the Levees Broke dvd, but I don't think it does.

Jordan, Friday, 7 December 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

have you guys heard david sanchez?

i saw him live in chicago on a weekend trip....live was amazing, not sure if he has any good records...

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 7 December 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

ok guys what are our best of 07 lists

mine is predictable

Mingus & Dolphy - Cornell 64
Erik Friedlander - Block Ice & Propane
Paul Motian, Bill Frisell, Joe Lovano, - Time and Time Again
Herbie - River: The Joni Letters
Robert Glasper - In My Element

that's all i got.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 04:50 (sixteen years ago) link

My list is currently being thrown into turmoil by the fact that I'm listening to everything from this year, like, all at once. DAMN, this Kahil El'Zabar's Infinity Orchestra album, which I thought was small cheese at the time, is actually shit-hot and fabulous, he's leading a huge band of French jazz dudes through his very AACM pieces, and only soloing once on the balafon, and whoa it's maybe making its way onto my overall list and I only have a couple of days left to firm that up, argh.

I'll make a top 20 jazz list in a couple of days.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

okay not really in order except for the top ten or so

1. Kahil El'Zabar's Infinity Orchestra, Transmigration
2. Hiromi's Sonicbloom, Time Control
3. Helene Corrini / Beatrice Graf, 2 Ailes
4. Sean Noonan Brewed by Noon, Stories to Tell
5. Jerry Granelli V16, The Sonic Temple
6. Dee Dee Bridgewater, Red Earth -- A Malian Journey
7. Bobby Santabria, Big Band Urban Folktales
8. Lafayette Gilchrist, 3
9. Norah Jones, Not Too Late
10. Jan Larsen, Strange News From Mars
11. Muiza Adnet, Sings Moacir Santos
12. Marlon Simon & the Nagual Spirits, In Case You Missed It
13. Jose Peixoto f/ Maria Joao, Pele
14. Misha Piatagorsky, Aya
15. James Carney, Green-Wood
16. Josh Roseman & New Constellations, Live in Vienna
17. David Binney & Edward Simon, Oceanos
18. Anat Cohen, Noir
19. Misha Piatagorsky, Uncommon Circumstance
20. Brad Shepik Trio, Places You Go
21. Baja, Maps/Systemalheur
22. Anat Fort, A Long Story
23. Kartet, The Bay Window
24. Myra Melford & Tanya Kalmanovitch, Heart Mountain
25. Anat Cohen, Poetica

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

wow the Lafayette Gilchrist album is way too low at #8, and Muiza Adnet should be higher. also I have to find that Baja album, that thing is KRAYZEE.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

significant things I haven't heard:

David Murray, Sacred Ground
William Parker, Corn Meal Dance
Mingus at Cornell '64
the new Paul Motian

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

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Wow, I didn't know anybody else had that Lafayette Gilchrist record. I saw him play with David Murray, Ray Drummond and Andrew Cyrille in the Black Saint Quartet (stepping in the shoes of the late John Hicks) and it was very nice.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I want to hear that Erik Friedlander album, but I want to hear his installment of Zorn's Book of Angels even more. (I guess I don't need to mention that his playing on Ned Rothenberg's Inner Diaspora is excellent, since even Sundar was teasing me about mentioning the Rothenberg album over and over again.)

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I loved Friedlander's last solo record. Also pissed that I haven't heard the new Cuong Vu (we used to be like THIS) or the Maria Schneider record that everyone is oohing and aahing about.

And yeah GILCHRIST IS FUNKY YO.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

My favorite (so far, I usually end up buying a bunch more stuff after seeing the best of the year lists) is that wonderful live Billy Bang/Frank Lowe album.

The guy who just votes in polls, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh I love Billy Bang, haven't heard that record though.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

also I forgot Chris Gestrin's after the city has gone: quiet and Michael Blake Sextet and Colin Vallon Trio.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

This Trio M thing sounds promising (was on somebody's personal list over at AAJ):

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7517504

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh crap that's another one I liked! On the same label as an even better one, Alan Pasqua's The Anti-Social Club!

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Last night I went to see Toninho Horta play at Cachaça. It was cool, but too much fusion-y noodling for my taste, and no sing-along Brazilians in the audience like I read about in the review of the last time he played there.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

"I want my money back, there were no sing-along Brazilians!"

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Word up! THEY TOLD ME THERE WOULD BE SING-ALONG BRAZILIANS.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

There were three world-weary Italians at the next table, but that did not compensate.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Here's the Ben Ratliff review of the other show, if you think I am inventing.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Also available here.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

There was also some glad-hander promoter/manager/crony type with a Cousin Brucie DJ voice trying to strong-arm the good people into buying CDs.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

My favorite jazz albums of 2007:

1. Ned Rothenberg - Inner Diaspora
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My favorite albums (all categories) of 2007:

1. Ned Rothenberg - Inner Diaspora
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Five albums I suspect will eventually make it onto the general list: Rahim AlHaj - Home Again; Wu Fei - Distant Youth; Erik Friendlander - Book of Angels Vol. 8; Nina Virdee - Gurbani Keertan; Nejo & Dalmata - Broke and Famous.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry I didn't get back to you about that show KL. Couldn't have gone anyway.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

band practice

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe I should have bought you one of those CDs off of Cousin Brucie.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

The Top 10 I submitted to the Voice jazz poll (haven't come up with a Pazz & Jop 10 yet):

Fred Anderson & Hamid Drake, From The River To The Ocean<BR>David Torn, Prezens<BR>Arve Henriksen, Strjon<BR>Supersilent, 8<BR>Satoko Fujii Quartet, When We Were There<BR>David S. Ware, Renunciation<BR>Matthew Shipp, Piano Vortex<BR>Jacques Coursil, Clameurs<BR>Other Dimensions In Music, Live At The Sunset<BR>Burnt Sugar, Live From Minnegiggle Falls<BR><BR>Reissues of the year:<BR>Miles Davis, The Complete On The Corner Sessions (duh)<BR>Andrew Hill, Compulsion (John Gilmore, fuck yeah!)<BR>Noah Howard, The Black Ark<BR><BR>Honorable mention (couldn't vote for it because a Wire piece I wrote was borrowed for the liner notes): Borbetomagus, Live In Allentown.

unperson, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link

The Top 10 I submitted to the Voice jazz poll (haven't come up with a Pazz & Jop 10 yet):

Fred Anderson & Hamid Drake, From The River To The Ocean
David Torn, Prezens
Arve Henriksen, Strjon
Supersilent, 8
Satoko Fujii Quartet, When We Were There
David S. Ware, Renunciation
Matthew Shipp, Piano Vortex
Jacques Coursil, Clameurs
Other Dimensions In Music, Live At The Sunset
Burnt Sugar, Live From Minnegiggle Falls

Reissues of the year:
Miles Davis, The Complete On The Corner Sessions (duh)
Andrew Hill, Compulsion (John Gilmore, fuck yeah!)
Noah Howard, The Black Ark

Honorable mention (couldn't vote for it because a Wire piece I wrote was borrowed for the liner notes): Borbetomagus, Live In Allentown.

unperson, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm glad they're doing that again.

The guy who just votes in polls, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I have heard like zero new jazz albums this year, except for New Orleans albums like Shamarr Allen's debut (which is fantastic), Harry Connick Jr., and Bob French's one on Branford's label. I meant to hear Alvin Batiste's last record too, but haven't yet.

Last year I was way into the Nik Bartsch and Dave Holland Quintet records, nothing like that this year.

Jordan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I say this every year, but here we go again: Jordan we should get together sometime and listen to stuff, or I should burn you a disc, or something.

I know it's not going to happen, but isn't it nice to know we could?

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 20 December 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha, yes! I would love a cd at least.

Btw I feel bad, you have a knack for showing up at, like, whatever the worst Digd0wn gig of the year is. :> (New Year's at the Majestic, though!)

Jordan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh snap -- I might have to flee my family for that. But my bro-in-law will be in town, so we might be getting sloshed and playing Wii all night.

I thought you guys sounded pretty good at that weird park in Fitchburg this summer! The kids liked it, anyway. DIGD0WN IS FOR THE CHILDREN!

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

And if you ever want to tour, I think I can help Digdown get a DC gig.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I think I don't like that gig because we end up playing old people-friendly songs, but overplay because we're outside, in one spot, without amplification. Thanks anyway. :>

C, that would be sweet, we were talking about that recently just because it would be great to see the trombone shout choir at United House of Prayer and some go-go shows.

Jordan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

(btw dudes we put up the new single at our myspace site, now i will stop talking about my band and resume talking about jazz records that i did not hear)

Jordan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

New Nik Bärtsch record in February, btw. He switches from Fender Rhodes to acoustic piano. It's great.

unperson, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

awes!

Jordan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Earl May - R.I.P.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Haikynum, is it true that Thelonious Monk could have or would have not only taken your little ass but also throw it against a wall?

Mackro Mackro, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

ok, morning lambic = bad idea

Mackro Mackro, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Just heard a luscious Dakota Staton song on the radio. I'm a sucker for jazz balladry of that kind.

So is someone gonna start a 2008 jazz thread? Not me, I just dabble and don't keep up on things.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 6 January 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

That's not gonna stop me. Here's the new thread "If That Arm Heals, It Ought To Be Broken Again" 2008 Jazz D Minor Bags Thread

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 6 January 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link


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