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thread of mumbling to myself. you can play too.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Playlist, shuffled

Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra
Actress - Splazsh
Paysage d'Hiver - Kristall & Isa
v/a - Mystic Records Presents We Got Power - Party or Go Home
Alva Noto - Xerrox Vol. 2
Debris - Static Disposal
Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
Pussy Galore - Exile on Main Street
Decayes - Not Yet!
Ulver - Nattens Madrigal
Edgar Varèse - noise interpolations from "Déserts"
Orbital - Brown Album
The Fall - Escape Route from the Wonderful and Frightening World of
John Beltran - Earth and Nightfall
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Expo '70 - Animism & Black Ohms

add zoloft and low-grade hangover, play freecell, lean back, stir

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link

freecell is fucking tedious tbh.

spent a lot of time this week watching young people going about their business, wondered why the fuck they were bothering for the most part. humans' sense of a worthwhile life/survival is pretty fucking tedious tbh.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean we are ape-y and not much imbued with magic or wonder

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

have been semi-inclined to go to Beverley and get properly drunk and lost today, out of spite and dickishness really, but this feels like a more satisfactory and less damaging way of getting some of that out of my system. damn i love a temporary solution tho. temporary dissolution.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, "Remind" is proper classic. lolstalgia. here is a notable story from the annals of Hull history

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article145635.ece

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link

the other weekend we decided there should be a giant animatronic goat-fucker alongside the railway line just before the station, with a neon "Welcome to Hull" sign over it

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i missed the last d off of "Edgard", I know

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link

lolstalgia. jaysus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMFspaHFl3Q&feature=related

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago) link

in the service of full disclosure, obv. there's not much more ridiculous than middle age, but youth is probly one of the things

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/Hull-Fair-7.jpg

so in love with the decent past but this picture could've been took anytime, really

city lost to time, city that fell from grace with the sea

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px5RkcwxkZQ

oh Hessle Road

half fucked now but still classic

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6bWJd44i-o

best band ever btw

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

http://bill.terebenthine.free.fr/images/spiders_from_mars.jpg

This is the 2nd best band from Hull ever. They were still Quite Good.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

man this tension between wanting to escape and knowing i won't escape very far, tawdriness in advance, wanting a pub with chet baker on the jukey or at the least Stock Aitken and Watermang's "SS Paparazzi" - lolstalgia again tho - can't even get a pint of Double Diamond anywhere now, not sure they still brew it - or that i want it tbh

not sure how much of this is the medicine flexing its muscles either but

not cut out for another 5 - 50 years of this really and pondering whether maintaining a facade of functional dignity is doing anybody any favours when i shd be beatniking it out in the wilds of this hilarious city

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.heritagepubs.org.uk/images/pubphotos/Hull-OldeWhiteHart-MainBar.jpg

Allegedly - tho you know history and publicity make bitch liars and memory is quite rewriteable - this is where we started to win the Civil War. Charles was keen on coming into the city and securing the arsenal and the docks but local capitalist plutocrat guys got together in this pub and told the mayor to lock the gates and tell him to get tae fuck. which he did, against his will. this pub is really cosy and still pub-esque, which y'know is an increasingly rare fucking commodity in the 2K10s. also where i heard some dude being accused of being "racist against gays".

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Pubs I have loved: the Piper, the Gardener's, Hockneys when it were old and working man's clubbish, the Golden Ball, the Engineers, the Mint, the Black Boy, the Olde White Hart, the Schnapps Bar, the Empress, the Star of the West RIP you were a beautiful dump, the Station, the Turnpike and that stupid sports bar at the back where I watched us win the play-offs and got so splattered by half time I didn't remember a fucking thing about it, also where I watched Eubank fuck up Watson but missed the fatal punch and said something unfortunate about him not getting tagged that hard

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

interrupted because our joel just texted to inform me that a pet shop in town is selling bird food labelled "6 fat balls for wild birds"

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

and I KNOW HOW IT FEELS

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.eyorks.com/hullpub/

this virtual pub crawl is kinda sick-making with lolstalgia. the probable siberian wind knifing ice-sleet into yr face is doing a good job of keeping my safe in the house tho. am gonna cheat and make myself a little sump'n sump'n now to tilt the balance. might as well be hung for a whole pen full of sheep etc

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

honest to god there used to be a fishing tackle shop on Anlaby Rd called "Master Baits"

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

ginger beer, is there anything you don't mix with?

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

one can't help but feel that social evolution is something of a pig in that it discards all use for male libido about 30 fucking years before yr male does

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

NON-ALIGNMENT PACT YES BANG ON TIME

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

am looping that fucker

don't know when i, when i'll be conte-eh-eh-ent btw

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:27 (thirteen years ago) link

really tho motivation is a funny thing. i dunno that aristotle was right about the unexamined life not being worth living but fuck i seem to see a lot of unexamination going down. ruminants. being a ruminant is plenty cool if you like cud tho. absolutely don't despise peoples alignments with themselves, just am wickedly out of sync and not getting how to get my groove "back" ha like it's been there since what 10? 5? seem to remember being reasonable centred playing army on the grass square at the top of our street but even then i was more of a cloud watcher rilly.

you reach this point when you think "man i am all ego self-centred aspie not good for people observer only bollocks" and that's a thing that you can be, one doesn't like to think it about yourself but we aren't all cut out for being productive and reasonable and loveable guys really

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

ginger ale not great with sambuca fwiw

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

got no real issues with the rest

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that seems true, wdn't mix sambuca tho tbh. ginger beer, not ale. I like ginger ale but it's a pretty low key mixer? have an unopened bottle that i might bring into play when the ginger beer runs out unless mrs v comes home and slaps me upside my head

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

which wd be a dece excuse tbh

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link

we should totally go out on the lash, darragh, it would be most excellent times imo

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link

no issues with that either, but no aristotle pls

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't do aristotle in the pub, or anywhere else really, dude was shit

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link

most tedious fucking philosopher ever award or maybe leibniz or that twat brother of Henery James's's

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i forgot the old fake irish bar appendage to the mainbrace in my list of much loved pubs, and the mainbrace itself, spent a glorious new years eve in there one time off my swede on mushrooms thinking i'd got a glowing sign on my head saying "this dude's on mushrooms"

i miss hallucinogens

booze is a ready, loving, companiable buddy for ALL TIME tho

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago) link

it was all-encompassing dismissal of discussion of all higher modes of though tbh

For drinking purposes, that is. Time and a place, time and a place

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

exackly

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

sport and giant animatronic goat-fucker tableaux are ideal pub convos tbh

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

don't even take my "oh pity poor me i is so sad" face to the boozer, it is NOT THE PLACE

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i wouldnt trust booze with my money or missus but i'll go drinking with him alright.

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

not that i is so sad, i am kinda focused and edgy and probly not real level-headed but sadness is sort of not there except an impending "i like where this relationship is going" gif sadness and wondering hmmm can i keep up a veneer of not-great for another 10 years or so until the kids are all safely launched

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link

goat fucker convo def has icebreaker value

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link

he is an hull legend. shd definitely feature in the publicity blurb imo, also he is one of those dudes where everybody you meet knows somebody who knows him

but this is like the biggest village in the world so

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link

six degrees of separation in hull = about 3

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link

fond memories of P4ul H34ton allegedly fending off Poll Tax bailiffs with an air rifle from his Grafton Street mansion

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sNffR-yTA4

our civic anthem

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

reckon a goatfucker or similar on the sound bridge would put achill on the map

Ok, on phone, in body lotion section of an actual irl fancy dept store, and my full attn is required. Continue at yr own pace will check validity of the remainder of thread later

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

suddenly I have Depeche Mode's "Just Can't Get Enough" with the lyric changed to "Just Can't Get It Up" stuck in my head as a good idea for a Weird Al song

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

am not even dressed yet but gotta admit the water on the windows did inspire a bit of "oh sweet (not)..." earlier. mostly just glad to be the not at work though evne if this afternoon fails in my quest to do anything productive 4th week running.

lucky I have the new Radiohead album to listen to, high spirits ahead!

side splitting genital based username (fndgo), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

"body lotion section" is boggling and lol

dude are you stuck in Dublin now I forget?

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

i am inspired by people's not liking of the new Radionhead, and people saying it is all low key and tune-light, those are excellent qualities in a Radionhead rekkid to my mind

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

toothpaste aisle? I kind of love and hate Big Tesco

side splitting genital based username (fndgo), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Big Tesco has some great shit in it but I hardly go in any more, also it feels like a chore to trek all the way to the back of it, also the bastards took the pork and pickle pies off the deli counter

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link

conventional pork pies don't do it for me any more, i need pickle in there or i need to be at home where i can smother that shit in mustard

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

something 50 Cent-ish about that last line

side splitting genital based username (fndgo), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQR0JgJO74s

This, btw gentlemen, is a FUCKING TUNE

is there much C&W on the Queen's jukebox, i don't remember and i feel a need? also lol my wife is gonna kill me hooray

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

jesus no not in dublin ffs

Tho i have days, god help me, it almost tempts as a final surrender

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Pringles don't seem to do Wasabi flavour or Lime and Chilli flavour any more, I am a bit heartbroken, bastards

Marty Robbins fucking rules

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

wot big city u exiled in then D?

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

and why have we got no ice cube bags in the house bollocks

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link

so tempted to text my eldest boy for a sesh but ah hell i'm gonna fuck this

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm gonna. full stop. fuck this

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

nearest big city is an hour south, not sure galway is as big as hull tho?

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

not been to galway. i wd guess not, seeing as how Letterkenny is a teeming metropolis and it's about the size of the pit village i grew up in

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link

it's what saturday is for! x-post...boozing i meant.

am about to get up and cook an omelette with some pancetta. might hold off boozing till this evening. have a lovely bottle of wine in the fridge tho...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link

dammit my eldest has gone to his mother's for the weekend the twat

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

the boy, not his mum. we get along fine

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

just made a Snowball, feels mad decadent in February.

think it's Merle Haggard time

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XeBn3AXeUc

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

suspect that having a drink is gonna be took for being drunk, may need to flee the scene when i've done this snowball, badly need somebody to txt and give me an excuse

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

the fact that there doesn't seem to be a Youtube of Merle's version of "Wishing All These Old Things Were New" is sort of a national disgrace.

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

it's funny, in my head i'm 20 but in the mirror i'm a fat old cunt

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

OH THE IRONY OF MORTALITY

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

there's something out there that's not in here, but i don't think anybody knows what it is, for two gross of broken statues, for a few thousand battered books. it's a poor do really. don't think we've made the best of the situation as a species

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Hi Noodle. John Terry tried to do a stepover in the corner a minute ago, kicked the ball onto his standing leg and out for a goal kick. Blue Saturday nothing.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

:D

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

there mayn't be a god, but karma has a sharp sense of humour sometimes

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

thx for inspiring me to start my day with some non-alignment pact

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i used to have a thing about how people from hull should fuck off our philip larkin but i have recently begun to wonder if hull needs him more than cov does. yr thoughts?

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i think cov probly needs him a little more, i've never found it an inspirational place whereas hull wd be hull with or without big Phil Silvers. they put a statue of him up in the train station now. to be fair he did all his useful work here and he seems to have felt at home in the place whilst still feeling not at home. only Cov poem I can remember is based on the train station platform i think? could be wrong.

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Hull already has a decent claim to Douglas Dunn, Peter Didsbury, maybe Seaon O'Brien and now David Wheatley. Think Cov needs Larkin more tbh.

Stevie T, Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link

thing is, as i say, he's obviously a Hull poet in a way that he totally isn't about Cov

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, tbh he was rid of cov as soon as he could be and never looked back.

triggered a memory of some 'celebrating coventry' bullshit that the city put on, the main element of which seemed to be putting up lots of those lampost banner things in town with pictures of famous coventrians. the highlight of the whole thing was an oversized poster with an artist's rending of sir frank whittle with one arm around pip larkin and the other pointing to the skies. i loved my city that day.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link

ah, we sure do love us some engineering in the midlands

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

"artist's rending of sir frank whittle" - typo would've been even better than the real thing

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

things I remember about Cov: weird elephant-shaped gym by the bus station, some kind of car museum nearby too, heavily graffitied Specials-era train bridge on the way out of town, ring road, cathedral, couple of Tudor houses and a plaque, pubs not great tbh

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

the train bridge out of town into earlsdon is still there and still the same as far as i'm aware, although of course there is also a shopping centre underneath it now. v entertaining graffiti, one of the main cultural achievements of the city. fragment of my childhood. elephant-shaped sports centre with olympic sized pool i have found to be the main reason that people from elsewhere have been to cov. pubs still shite.

did you actually live in cov or juss lemmy spa?

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

neither, my first wife grew up in Leamington and lived in Cov for a couple of years after we broke up, used to travel there to see the boy on the reg

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

you always lived in hull, noodle vague?

does grandways still exist?

utterfilth (whatever), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

good thread btw

utterfilth (whatever), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

nah i grew up in a small town called Rugeley in Staffordshire, my fam are almost exclusively Black Country based, i came to uni in Hull in 87 and have stayed here since.

Grandways changed back to Jacksons, or was bought out by them, and then Jacksons sold the shops to Sainsburys a few years back, kept the Jacksons brand on the shop signs until last year and now they are just shitty Sainsburys. Jacksons bakery is still going strong tho.

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

y/n: lenny henry has propelled you thru a canal tunnel with his legs, the quintessential experience of black country life

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

tragically no, i have never even been to that Banks's Bitter 19th Century Aynoch and Ayli Museum Experience thing

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

oh it's Aynuk and Ayli apparent

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

ah. uni took me there too, in 1985. it didn't keep me there tho.

utterfilth (whatever), Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

my old man had his 70th birthday dinner on a barge restaurant tho, lol you can take the boy out of Darlaston but

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Have not read this thread but do tell me about the dapper young men in the first youutube.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

MEGA-GIG

seminal fuiud (NickB), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

lol my tragic youth

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link

today could've gone worse tbh

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Stoned guys with long fringes doing the saggy-arsed shuffle in broad daylight = A++ nostalgia, would lol again

seminal fuiud (NickB), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

so much scrumpy

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I thought it was gonna be one of those government health warning films when it started. Half expected a hooded figure to appear stage left and shank one your dancers.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

that's a rly good set of records

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

good hangover music. alarming thing is I have no memory whatsoever past about 8.30 last night and either I didn't spend that much or I mugged somebody at some point

The Nigiri Ya Love to Hate (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean I lose chunks of time after a bender now I'm approaching dotage but man this is totally erased from the record with not even a peep of remembering

The Nigiri Ya Love to Hate (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 February 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

nah i grew up in a small town called Rugeley in Staffordshire

omg is this something I knew and forgot, or never knew!? Cos guess where I spent te 3-4 weeks I visited England in 1998? Haha.

Trayce, Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

(so if you know a guy called R0b P0rt3r I am going to die laughing)

Trayce, Sunday, 20 February 2011 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link

nah I've told you before and you've forgotten! and I don't know the guy afaik, but then I was long gone by '98, except for visiting mom and dad. never see anybody I knew when I go back there. am cool with that tbh

The Nigiri Ya Love to Hate (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 February 2011 08:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Hah don't blame you tbh

Trayce, Sunday, 20 February 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

how'd all this work out btw

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 21 February 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

stayed pretty sober Saturday in the end so things were quite placid really, didn't go out, no harm no foul. the stuff in my head and my heart well it comes and it goes

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

interesting thread

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

the thread of disquiet

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a lot of those

how is rugely anyway? i was going kinda wtf at trayce's idea (in the miserable american cities thread) that the british midlands could be worse than american ghettos, but i've never spent 3-4 weeks in rugely

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

/rugeley/

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

sometimes it's good to let that stream of consciousness flow downhill.

Rugeley is small and ugly and stultifying but is surrounded by Cannock Chase and other prettiness which makes up for it.

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

My first love was from Chasetown. That sounds recognisable.

portrait of velleity (woof), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah from what I know of Chasetown it's true

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

+ i salute this thread, wish i'd been around ilx on saturday, was trapped with can't-take-it horror thoughts on cosy-away-trip to devon. No, dorset.

portrait of velleity (woof), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

we didnt end up buying any body lotion, but went on a four hour drive thru connemara after that. No complaints. Should have taken camera prob.

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

been trying to work a scooby rooby roo joke around rugeley but fuckin mondays yknow

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

when yr most famous son is a 19th century poisoner you know you've gotta be a great place

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

was that a ref to ye or us?

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

wait our dudes wasnt a poisoner carry on

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

that scottish dude that managed derby?

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

that wouldn't even rank among the dozen most depraved things billy davies has done

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Apparently Nicholas Winterton was born in Rugeley so poor old Palmer isn't even the evillest dude to come from there

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

openings that make you regret giving up 'ur mum' jokes xp

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Cannock Chase was nice yeah. I saw some deer.

Trayce, Monday, 21 February 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-1hH0rqeRA

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2PxsHBv0ps

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

The band rapidly fell out of favour. Paul Heaton of Hull's more well known band The Beautiful South heavily criticised them as being middle class pretenders, and the rot set in thereafter. Their third album To Hell with Humdrum had only a few new songs and mostly featured BBC sessions of tracks from Sleepwalking.

oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rcYBP0FdL8

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 March 2011 09:01 (thirteen years ago) link

feel like i get seppuku as a desperate/despairing shout of sincerity, but the having of children prohibits it.

booze is the slow motion version, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcEYW90SrHg&feature=related

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 March 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link

can't view youtubes on phone. Feel as limited as mark halsey.

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 7 March 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWTfRiICB2U

soz

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 March 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link

it's all dreamytime Drambuie head-stroke music today, for those of you watching in black and white

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 March 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5prT2qiiWY

Pretty sure this is a Tune. God knows why. video is hysterical.

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 March 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link

best song i ever heard,

i was born in the 90s yet when i heard this song, it wrentched my heart bad, not like crying, just the pull of the music, makes you go all tingly

weirdly this bell-end is not far off, either

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 March 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2282/2219010875_907123f85c_z.jpg

This dude taught me 9 tenths of everything I know about club singing, and is also a bit of a legend.

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 March 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_NWwUB6Dis

if u don't dig Stockhausen well fuck u

probly won't kill myself today but am wondering how to get out of driving lesson/life

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:07 (thirteen years ago) link

this is where I talk myself out of shit don't fret

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:08 (thirteen years ago) link

yesterday's diary was good. selected lowlights

"Aboulia

bliss-y descent into trance, laying in front of the TV dipping in and out always something to stay up for

drift thru day the same way floating down see-sawing like a feather swinging thru the air gently to ground silence and calm music and no conversation no words of no importance

FECKING CHATTER OF CLEANERS IN THE LIBRARY MY REFUGE

i have a store of names
skylight
peace that passes out of understanding voices of complaint make me bristle but then what am i?

moaning judging interfering voices of petty petty
- diseased aesthete -
build yr marble tower on the bones of the peasantry
alles gut

touch of fingers lips
missing
THAT hurts
still felt something, idiot

we write each other off?
we write ourselves off?
Generations :// de/generate"

etc

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:15 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAOMY4OThUA

THIS

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:18 (thirteen years ago) link

The House of the Prince keepeth festival, and the sound of those who rejoice is in the mighty dwelling. The gods are glad when they see Ra in his rising; his beams flood the world with light. The majesty of the god, who is to be feared, setteth forth and cometh unto the land of Manu; he maketh bright the earth at his birth each day; he cometh unto the place where he was yesterday. O mayest thou be at peace with me; may I behold thy beauties; may I advance upon the earth; may I smite the Ass; may I crush the evil one; may I destroy Apep in his hour; may I see the abtu fish at the time of his creation, and the ant fish in his creation, and the ant boat in its lake. May I see Horus in charge of the rudder, with Thoth and Maat beside him; may I grasp the bows of the seket boat, and the stern of the atet boat.

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:40 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOH1w8iGCtg

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago) link

did u smite the ass on that one

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:45 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwIj23FP-E4

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:46 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xwl4oVnbhU

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:47 (thirteen years ago) link

http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/31/50/1315094_f2125c90.jpg

going down the road later

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link

thread makes me wish i wasn't on a text-only browser. No doubt i'd have hugely insightful and helpful comments on everything

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:52 (thirteen years ago) link

called in sick on my driving lesson. gonna see my daughter's easter play this avvy but don't wanna be too effed up plus her headmistress is an utter psycho bitch

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link

thread of finding myself a flat tbh

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link

aw man

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:56 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyCg-Bft4KY

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno dood i'm pondering if this is the booze talking its own way to self dissolvement or if i'm just done, enough, couldn't cut the mustard again

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 08:58 (thirteen years ago) link

booze dissolution time prob not the clearest of reflective spaces tbf

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:05 (thirteen years ago) link

order the complete coldplay ouevre the day of live 8 after they did bittersweet symphony with ashcroft, that was def the night before jamming my signals

Thats just a for instance tho

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link

lol my one piece of advice for anybody is never buy somebody's back catalogue if you heard them stoned last night

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:08 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwMc0TjW_6Y

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Solval-5Yjs

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link

wasnt stoned but i have three separate strands of a tragic food poisoning tale from that night that could be the irish 'go' if i could only get the backing

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link

oh noodle vague <3

estela, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link

estela that made me smile and lol a little bit . it's not so much that i'm unhappy but i'm unhappy at the prospect of making the peeps around me unhappy with my fecklessness which i'm personally comfortable with. ish.

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i would have posted 'oh noodle vague <3' but on my phone < is very hard to get to

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 u both too :D

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

well i'm feckless too
i bet i could outfeckless you. xp

estela, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

aw<3

estela, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link

cd start a competitive fecklessness thread. will up the ante by starting on the drambuie and wandering off to the pub in half an hours time when they open. tho properly feckless peeps hang around outside tapping their feet for fifteen minutes or so

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoAbj6gO7jE

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:36 (thirteen years ago) link

not bothered to do any of that

#uppingthante

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHaOul8gVVc

still miss eazy :(

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.drinkemporium.com/images/drambuie.jpg

shit brings it imo. testament to lost yoot

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

fecklessness and drambuie are both on the list of things that put me in rehab.

estela, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6K7dB3T6ho

antem for doomed yoot

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost they tried to make me go to rehab. i said no.

my boss has tried to call me twice now lol

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago) link

3 times. But I'm gone baby gone. Let's all party tonite ILXers.

Not you ILXor

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:10 (thirteen years ago) link

24-7, Dre, Snoop and Devin

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTm6FOpmp8s

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i enjoyed rehab, there were so many gruesome stories, also meals which i'd missed quite a few of in the preceding months, also i persuaded an earnest hippy to shave off his beard by telling him it was 'a mask', also a washed-up nz rockstar was in there due to exhaustion and he was made to play softball and he was hopeless. i had a dear little bed in a wood panelled room and the rehab was in a thermal resort town near some mountains so in the evenings we'd sit in these lovely thermal pools while it snowed around pretending we were romantic olden days tb patients taking a cure in the alps. when we got there we had to sign forms agreeing that the government would pay for everything plus give us a $200 cheque every week to pay for extras. and by the end i was used to not drinking which was good because the tra-la days were over and i couldn't ever enjoy drinking anymore. of course if i still enjoyed it i wouldn't have gone near the joint.

estela, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i've always thought rehab would be like being cuddled all day and told you're loved no matter how much of a lie that might be, same fantasy i have about being a monk except with less of the cuddling. i get this urge to lie down on the pavement and be picked up and repaired but in all honesty here u don't get repaired you just get hosteled and down down. which is cool too but don't want kids visiting Sally Army hostel plus i don't know so many philosophers in the park bench drinking posse

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeuuB2lQPOw

love this so hard

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i would prefer to try estela's rehab, if it's a choice btwn the two.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

same fantasy i have about being a monk

i went on a retreat to a monastery in ireland when i was about 17, me and two other students in my class. we spent 3 days in a vow of silence and then on the final day we could talk. i went for a huge walk in the mountains and met one of the monks and had a big chat, he seemed honestly one of the happiest most relaxed people i've ever spoken to.

reckon there would be huge boredom though, if you don't have the whole faith in god thing.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that's my issue. i want being a monk to be sitting around reading books and chilling all day but i couldn't fake the god stuff

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

don't do boredom tho.

"a leaf's otherness" - i cd ponder shit like this all year

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

right, pub's been open for ages, am going to walk into my destiny and get mad Ted Hughes

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

trying to think of a euphemism for drunk that rhymes with laureate. Help me out here

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link

There's a paragraph in the Barthelme story "Lightning" which always makes me want to become a monk, for about 5 seconds:

talked to a Trappist monk who had been struck by lightning in 1975 while working in the fields at the order's Piffard, New York, abbey. Having been given permission by his superior to speak to Connors, the small, bald monk was positively loquacious. He told Connors that the one deprivation he had felt keenly, as a member of a monastic order, was the absence of rock music. "Why?" he asked rhetorically. "I'm too old for this music, it's for kids, I know it, you know it, makes no sense at all. But I love it, I simply love it. And after I was struck the community bought me this Sony Walkman." Proudly he showed Connors the small device with its delicate earphones. "A special dispensation. I guess they figured I was near-to-dead, therefore it was all right to bend the Rule a bit. I simply love it. Have you heard the Cars?" Standing in a beet field with the brown-habited monk Connors felt the depth of the man's happiness and wondered if he himself ought to rethink his attitude toward Christianity. It would not be so bad to spend one's days pulling beets in the warm sun while listening to the Cars and then retire to one's cell at night to read St. Augustine and catch up on Rod Stewart and the B-52's.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

fyi:

The Geir Hongro listening club

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

dammit i pick our Hannah up from school and i lose all will to disappear

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcV0uaigGx8

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

did you watch the play?

nultybutnice (whatever), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it was excellent but a bit jesus-y

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

hope your day picked up nv.

nultybutnice (whatever), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

your post about picking your daughter up is beautiful

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

my day came down which is a necessary bit of picking up i guess. tomorrow i start to try gluing rubble together. again. gee drama is dull when you're the dramatist.

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Your Hannah is possibly my most favorite Made People from all of ILX, mostly because she just looks like THAT MUCH trouble and glee. Big ups today.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

:) I enjoy her sociopathy more than I let on to most people

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

little miss chief

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

a little vague

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey Noodle V I think you're great and just wanted to stop by and say that I'm thinking of you and hope today's a better day for you.

ENBB, Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Also Estela's rehab sounds a hell of a lot better than the ones my mother's been in but maybe that's sue in part to diffs between US/AUS healthcare sys? In order to go to nice ones here you have to pay out the wazoo.

ENBB, Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i'm not fucked up enough for NHS rehab and i'm not really on speaking terms with any higher powers so i have horrible feeling i will just have to tough this sobriety thing out by myself/get chained to the bed every few days when the thirst kicks in

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

well bad news champ we p much did that with our mum and it was a disaster, i think you should consider nz tbh

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

NV you may not know many philosophers in the park bench drinking posse but you know some here & you're one of my fav posters so keep your head high & we will have your back as much as we can.

Euler, Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

also if i can hardson for a bit, the self-dramatizing drunken philosopher setting the world to rights thing was pretty much played circa malcolm lowry

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i think my grandfather was like that before he decided to let a lucrative business fail and just become a fulltime drunk

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

ah i like it, brings a bit of character to the place

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

oh she's adorable!

ENBB, Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

she looks like noodle! in a great way :-)

DISPLAY NAMING RIGHTS (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i notice u dont over-advertise the pic i seem to recall of ur brood and c ronaldo????????

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

sounds good

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

it was cute i said it was cute he said sound i believe it may have been our first civil exchange in my 2 yrs on ilx or w/e.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

She is the best, THE BEST. Maybe she's growing out of the monster photos that I remember but her teeth used to be sharp and pointy and her curls go everywhere and are RED and she always struck me as someone who would get close to you and then bite and relish it completely without any attack of conscience and you'd never see it coming.

So basically I was otm w/r/t adorably cheerful sociopathy.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

You know, if your kids are your best work in life, you're not doing too badly there, nv.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

exactly

great kids and a relevant internet forum to contribute to is better than what, 96% of the world's population?

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a sunny day, I had a dentist's checkup and got away with a polish and a replacement filling, yeah i know in the grand scheme of things life is pretty good.

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ilxchatz humbly requests the presence of valuable senior poster nv

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 April 2011 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry guys, can't stay up til 4 on a school night

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 April 2011 06:50 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a grand day to take two days off IMO

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Monday, 11 April 2011 08:33 (thirteen years ago) link

ha

that wasn't a time-specific request, just in general

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Monday, 11 April 2011 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this song is a'ight, until the ridiculously brilliant coda kicks in around the 2'50 mark.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/89408524febc514e/

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link

you look different without your specs on. BACK O TH NET.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 April 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link

a second after that photo was took he elbowed joel in the face and went in studs up on hannah

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

looool hannah

supremely unimpressed, rightfully

Some other race (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 April 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

think she looks happier on the Ronaldo one but i can't find it yet

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

that is the best part of that photo. both kids look like they couldn't care less. top marks kids.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 April 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

joel has the same control over his glasses as i do

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 April 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i am very happy and i say thanks to my teammates and we play good photo so i am very happy

Some other race (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 April 2011 12:29 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 those little vagues.

estela, Monday, 25 April 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

chillvagues

Some other race (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 April 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man they're so cute. hannah kills me - those curls

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 25 April 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

also yeah the rooney picture is hysterical

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 25 April 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

the curls are growing out a lot now and she has conducted the odd experiment with straighteners :(

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Awwwww.

I will never understand the whole obsession with straightening. I would kill for curly (even wavy) hair.

Anyway, she's still awesome.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 25 April 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

haha WOW I never realised exactly what a haggard old man Rooney these days until now

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 April 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

like, I thought that was your three kids there for a second

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 April 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4foq4HcQdpg

awful feeling i'm gonna maunder on today. sorry if so

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCbaaviiNoE

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:14 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIuep-pOS0U

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:21 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdteqEjuyw

sometimes when the void calls i forget why i'm supposed to not answer

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link

fucker always reverses the charge ime

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:43 (thirteen years ago) link

This thread articulates dark corners of my life w' a luminous commentary and makes me well up w' tears of sympathy and obscure pleasure. God Bless NV.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel like a major douche when i rev this up again but on the other hand it's more positive than my other impulses i guess so hey

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:56 (thirteen years ago) link

sometimes playing "Madame George" on a loop for hours seems like a real viable plan

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link

always been scared to listen to any other Van than Astral Weeks cos it's so perfect and the only other one i know is "Brown-Eyed Girl" which is kind of a wee bit pish and a lot bit played

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:01 (thirteen years ago) link

also worried he might not do Joyce references on his other albs

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:01 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN-h_K86_zA

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I have never heard that Washington Phillips before, what is that instrument? It's...er...ethereal?

i can't, i won't (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:05 (thirteen years ago) link

it's beautiful innit? i think there's still some debate about exactly what he used: an instrument that sounds like a fretless zither. This instrument, which has been variously identified as a Dolceola, a Celestaphone, two Celestaphones tuned in octaves attached side-by-side, or a Phonoharp (and also is considered by some to be an instrument entirely home-made by Phillips) creates a unique sound on these recordings that makes them immediately recognizable.

about 16 or 17 extant tracks and every one of them diamond dust

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

ah man, how did I miss this thread? fucking Schnapps Bar :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgXPWNhK0W8

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Thread and Washington Phillips really, um, set me up for the day. No, 'set me up' clearly the wrong phrase, but chimed so exactly with the general drift of my moods over the last few months? year? that it makes it feel less debilitating.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

'here comes the night' with them is p great but i've never been a van man tbh

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 27 May 2011 10:02 (thirteen years ago) link

always been scared to listen to any other Van than Astral Weeks cos it's so perfect and the only other one i know is "Brown-Eyed Girl" which is kind of a wee bit pish and a lot bit played

― Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, May 27, 2011 9:01 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

You are right to be afraid

when use becomes abuse (S-), Friday, 27 May 2011 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

thanx for confirming my prejudices.

man, i managed to complete and send a job application that i thought i was too hungover to do, especially since i have a mortal fear of forms. pretty sure this justifies me in doing knack all for the rest of the day.

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 May 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i definitely agree it justifies it, i also have a mortal fear of forms and a mortal fear of sending things off so the completion and sending off of a form in a single session is a good day's work in my world of form fearing people.

estela, Friday, 27 May 2011 11:23 (thirteen years ago) link

just think, you could be a proud part-owner of 100,000,000,000 debt right now if you'd only fill out the forms

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 27 May 2011 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

suspect that yr addict isn't so much addicted to a chemical as they are addicted to the imaginary possibility of love

banter panchali (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 June 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link

is that the same thing as the possibility of imaginary love, or is the latter what you just settle for in the end

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 June 2011 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

good point. does anybody actually go for the possibility of the imaginary? that feels even more defeated i think

banter panchali (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 June 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

leo dicaprio to thread

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 June 2011 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

i'm already on record as calling that movie over-rated gash

banter panchali (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 June 2011 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

which one? cos shutter island is gloriously nuts

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 June 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link

nah i wanna see that, i thought u was talking Incepticons

banter panchali (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 June 2011 13:03 (twelve years ago) link

a real mindfuck of a double bill, under the right chemical circumstances i'd say

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 June 2011 13:03 (twelve years ago) link

my surfing on the phone at work leaves me at some loss itt imo

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

ah sometimes it's just some song that's taken me fancy. also i'm just piling into the ouzo my friends brought me back from Zante

aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

cant get ouzo on the phone, it's only a cheapish nokia

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

one day i have a dream

aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

it's like an antidote to nultness, that sentence

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Full of that "just on the brink of tears" maudlin happiness today, been floating like an ambivalent ghost for months. Okay years maybe. "Percy's Song" keeps looping round my head and filling me up with...something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C5EPmR7YdY&feature=fvwrel

My line manager is a lovely woman who takes care of me and puts up with more of my bullshit than is reasonable tbh, but sometimes when we're liaising with tutors or other professionals she just comes out with these well-meaning but crass cultural stereotypes and I cringe a little bit inside and I feel bad for cringing a little bit cos I know she's on the side of good really. But it's tiring and niggly to always be around people who don't quite get it, whatever "it" might be.

Of course maybe I'm just a control freak. You stare into the unknowable cave of Other People's Brains for a while and man does it stare right back into you.

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

Think the difference between happy maudlin and bleak depression is when you realise that whatever feels like its missing was probably never really there in the first place and you stop chasing and enjoy the alien but familiar surroundings.

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:52 (twelve years ago) link

never mind that we sent our grace off to school this mornin

TOO SCHOOL FFS

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

TOO SCHOOL FOR COOL

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

Isn't Friday a funny day to be starting school?

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link

also i love y'all ilx, but y'all need to learn that crass (cultural or otherwise) generalisations are gonna issue from the mouths of good people, maybe not even that infrequently, and deal accordingly.

I mean you know this, you're still talking to me ffs.

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha but I have the remnants of professional pride - outside of work i can be as crass as any fucker

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

also it's kind of the well-meaningness of the comments that makes me cringe up. shit gotta go do some "work".

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

friday at the end of term to give them all summer to deal with the knowledge that we've been lying to them about it being fun tbh

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

lol excellent plan

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

four and a bit, welcome to the system. What a woild.

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:05 (twelve years ago) link

patience is a virtue
virtue is a grace
grace is a little girl
with a dirty face.

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 12:15 (twelve years ago) link

that was in a book i liked when i was little, grace was secretly a fairy who was not obsessed with hygiene or other pedestrian matters.

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link

the poet was jealous of her.

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link

tell your grace if she can kiss her elbow it means she's a fairy. i learned that rule from that book and i tried and tried but no dice.

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 12:27 (twelve years ago) link

Ah my mom used to tell us to go kiss our elbows when she wanted to keep us busy, I believed it was possible for quite a while only I couldn't quite reach....

you're in the club and the light hits your ass like pow (Laurel), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:32 (twelve years ago) link

i'm afraid i'm not talking to grace atm, she decorated the living room table yesterday and my feedback did not ingratiate me

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

i'm mad at you too now.

laurel, i was so sure i would reach one day but i never could. shamefully, i even tried it again recently and got the same old disappointing result.

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

it was a very lackadaisical job, in my defence.

Cant reach my elbow either fwiw, neither can either co-worker

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

there must be some secret physiological trick to it.

i liked school a lot mostly, which is ironic considering the balls i made of it.

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

as an outside observer, i enjoyed it immensely. I understand the standard experience is somewhat more unsettling

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

i want a full description of grace's slapdash table setting.

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

ah, i think i see where i'm coming across as overly harsh now.

I mean decorated, with paint etc. It was a red cat, or so i was informed.

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

i like the sound of this grace character.

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

a bad workman always blames that boy next door, the fox from dora and my gf, in that order.

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

<3<3<3

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

i'd have had to hide my head in a cupboard so she wouldn't see me laughing.

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

my face grants me few enough advantages, but luckily enough fierce disapproval is a specialty

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

if you neglected to say "Swiper No Swiping!" then you're at fault afaik

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

it's not rly my place to learn the code or do any actual disciplining, as far as i can work out i'm only there to do the driving and provide fresh furniture.

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

and to admire red cats.

estela, Friday, 24 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

up until yesterday anyway

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Friday, 24 June 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0As0mgeRHbg

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

oh hai

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Oqo_2ddq4

tipper gore (nakhchivan), Sunday, 26 June 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link

:D

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-wGMlSuX_c

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes people (i.e. mostly Mrs V) tell me the drinking is a helpless brain disease that's got me in its pincers but on the other hand you just get bored of dullards y'know?

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

also some kind of "Ravers Binge" and "Black Velvet Band" mashup wd be number one for a couple of months

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

i have been free of the curse of the drink for about a month now, an unhappy accident of schedules.

It's gonna get ugly next weekend, is my gut feeling.

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

got a friend of limited musical imagination who keeps telling me that Blackout are a deliberate parody. When you worry about this stuff it's always a spectacular missing of the point imo

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WXeZwe-1Zk

the bits of this that don't feature the slightly Pound Shop-looking Shamen themselves are my fave video ever

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

Advice to new MC's
Be original most new MC's all sound the same and copy other MC's stuff. The only way u will get recognized is if u are original and bring the scene something different to any1 else. This is why blackout is a big success, all the MC?s have got there own style's which certain types of people adapt to. So go home and get your note pads out and your pens and get to work!
posted by Blackout Crew

tipper gore (nakhchivan), Sunday, 26 June 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

FACT: all the best UK MCs have had a kids in the community element to their work

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

my old man is gradually coming out to me about his depression, which secretly i've known has been there for a long time. but the unspeakable truth between us is he's scared of decaying and dying, i know exactly what it is because it's the same fucking gene he's passed down to me, and we talk about football and argue about politics cos neither of us wants to tell each other we're scared - him because he's a big hard practical dude and me because i've got nothing to tell him that can help

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

which is the unbearable secret fuckery of life - nothing any of us can do can help

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMPMiLddsuE

reasons i moved to Hull #6 in a series

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link

hi nv, sorry to hear about your dad stuff. i've got something similar going that way and then i look at my two children and wonder what i'm passing onto them behaviourally and have passed to them genetically. she's starting to show the introspective side but i hope that's just a teenage phase. anyway don't know if you've heard this but it's good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMTKb-pgxGI&feature=related

whatever, Sunday, 26 June 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

i haven't heard that but Warren Z is always good yes thank you :)

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

meanwhile, easy sadness of when some fuckers deja vu yr life 15 years before the moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xVs4I_VfVY

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

...and on the bass guitar, sex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PU1pIJJGeM

whatever, Sunday, 26 June 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

heartily recommend that final zevon album. it's sad going but a great statement.

whatever, Sunday, 26 June 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit i do know that song, i'd forgotten. good move for a drunken maudlin sunday afternoon, lol

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

here's another (cracking open the carlsberg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCh3fdO6vZk

whatever, Sunday, 26 June 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

subtle combination of 'ow my head' and 'oh shi i need to find somewhere to live' this morning

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 June 2011 07:21 (twelve years ago) link

good luck with all of that. I'm seriously thinking about quitting the drink but, what then?

serious, nv?

:(

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Monday, 27 June 2011 09:42 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno i need to have long chats but i don't think carrying on as is will work

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 June 2011 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

like one of us is peeved that the other one hasn't changed and one of us is peeved that the other one has :)

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 June 2011 10:42 (twelve years ago) link

least appropriate emoticon ever, imo

Hope it 'works out', whatever that means, yknow

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Monday, 27 June 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

sorry if my good luck above seemed flippant, didn't think through the implications properly. But, hope whatever happens is the right or acceptable outcome - this sorta stuff is often surmountable if you both want it to be (otherwise there's no way me and L would still be together)

no i didn't take it the wrong way. probly shouldn't be going on about this really but hey sometimes you need to vent.

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

hang in there nv

whatever, Monday, 27 June 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

3 parts ouzo
1 part creme de cassis
3 parts 7-up
ice
let's go :D

tastes like the best Benylin ever

Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

imagining what that tastes like is like trying to imagine a new colour

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

it's a winner believe me. syrupy, slightly cough-mixturey, shd be wearing a dressing gown and smoking a hookah with it tbh

Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

sceptical, quite frankly

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:48 (twelve years ago) link

tho i admire yr suggested alcoprops

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:48 (twelve years ago) link

mood is important imo

Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

actually i meant smoking jacket rather than dressing gown but i couldn't remember the right name

Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 July 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

drinking jacket a criminal sartorial oversight imo

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 11 July 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

how did this go btw

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 11 July 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

nicely mellow, got me thru the housework

Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 July 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

iwanttobreakfree.jpg

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 11 July 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

get drunk bunk off listen to Peter Hammill all day?

tempted

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 September 2011 07:20 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEReYBOnC8

ah well

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 September 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSjP2GBTr9U

happy to help

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 September 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

the youtube procrastination

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 September 2011 11:51 (twelve years ago) link

ludlum e-book

talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 September 2011 11:52 (twelve years ago) link

:D

in the big picture you have to remember that days like this are fucking awesome and the sour tint of the stupid world outside just adds some zing to the flavour

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 September 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link

in the big picture you have to remember that days like this are fucking awesome and the sour tint of the stupid world outside just adds some zing to the flavour

^^^

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 22 September 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XprkIbphGf8

hungover and heart diseased and loveless and fuggit

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

aw shit man, if this was brought on by my posting andy johnson in an england lineup i'm sorry

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

it's been one fuck of a month

but i'm a'ight really...weirdly still and freefalling...taking a ride up to cottingham this afternoon, crumbling burb that still wants to be a village and it's not raining and fuggit, praps this is what middle age is and praps game over is kinda liberating

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

are there people in cottingham that are trying to maintain the pretence of a village aesthetic through support for or possible engagement themselves in trade of expensive local artisan goods etc?

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link

lol yeah but surprisingly few. there used to be an awesome shoe shop that had nothing but jackie collinsesque blinging gold in the window tho

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

COTTINGHAM HIPSTERS

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

wait, gold shoes or just random bling in a shoeshop

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

gold shoes ceiling to floor. y'know women of a certain age who inhabit a jackie collins world in their heads? this was they shoe shop

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

nb why not inhabit a jackie collins world? i aren't judging, it's a place to be

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

it's a question of extent i suppose, no harm in it as long as you don't actually expect every stableboy to be a hung poet bodybuilder who likes em big.

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:00 (twelve years ago) link

thought that was jilly cooper tbh

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

tbf cott is probly more jilly c than jackie c

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

couldn't claim to recognise the distinction tbh

at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

i am kinda into potboilery fiction

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQdDjy1UtW4

Keep yer chin up NV!

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 8 October 2011 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

A primary school teacher has been suspended after allegedly labelling locals as "thick" and "inbred" on Facebook, according to Sky sources.

The female teacher at Westcott Primary School in Hull is reported to have posted the statements during an online conversation with other members of staff.

When one of them said he was in town and fed up with bumping into children, the teacher apparently responded: "do you mean top end of holderness road?

"that's bout as far as anyone in east hull goes! no wonder everyone is thick...inbreeding must damage brain development."

Hull Council has launched an investigation and the chair of the governors Mary Wallace has written to parents to offer them a "sincere apology".

;_;

nakhchivan, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

heard about it last night. uncharitable people might suggest that the teachers' position at that school is a bit untenable now.

but y'know shock horror middle class teachers consider themselves above the families they work with etc

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

(whoever outed the Facebook comments printed them up and plastered them over the school gates apparently :D )

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

tbf, tho

shite pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

eh i meant to come back and soften that with w/e but work called, lol i'm a bollix now

shite pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

ha i was trying to think of a measured response but fuggit i have to work with dicks like these, i'm not gonna write a eulogy to the saintly people of East Hull but tbf Westcott isn't even in that rough a catchment area

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

i hear that /public housing/

shite pele (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 October 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

sleepy, full a port, can't view youtubes

Other'n that, i'm here

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

not just port but mainly port

Someone post an appropriate youtube for 'desperately wanting sleek electronic goods you can't afford'

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

:)

port ain't a bad place to be

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

not finding a taste for it tbh but the bottle's been winking at me this long 6 month now so

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link

'that bottle' said i to the portrait of behan 'will finish me, or i it, begod'.

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

apparently pubs hide bottles of low-quality port so they can make "Cheeky Wimto"s, apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PInNrFZQEwk

i think Dick G is a bit of a drama queen sometimes but he can't half nail a tune

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

always the youtubes, always

I come to this thread as a vagrant comes to the champs-elysees, possibly tolerated but ignorant, excluded and taunted

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

darragh if i cd express myself clearer than the casual youtube i wd do that but alls i have is the occasional comment and other people's talent

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

anyone the port's three-quarter finished and i'm only half-kilt so by any odds the strong money's backing me and behan's pure vexed.

What d'you mix to uncloy this stuff iyo?

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

sleep

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

the occasional comment and other ppl's talent is good enough for dunpy and so not to be sniffed at by the likes of you nor i

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

sleep is a copout and btwn dunphy and behan and the accusatory quarter-bottle i'd fain raise my eyes in the parish again

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

it's funny my old man is a horrible celtophobe but has a burning love for Borstal Boy

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

he may have his priorities the right way round tbh, i should start a thread listing the negative traits of the celt

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNmCUoMthqU

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOO0AQMIbkg

this is the best song, i think

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

it sounds a bit like Peter Hammill's "Candle", strangely enough

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGXxcSdsXJ4

Cheer up boo <3

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 30 October 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

THERE died a myriad,
And of the best, among them,
For an old bitch gone in the teeth,
For a botched civilization,

Charm, smiling at the good mouth,
Quick eyes gone under earth's lid,

For two gross of broken statues,
For a few thousand battered books.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 November 2011 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

Oh mother my mouth is full of stars
As cartridges in the tray
My blood is a twin-branched scarlet tree
And it runs all runs away;
Oh cooks to the galley is sounded off
And the lads are down in the mess
But I lie down by the forward gun
With a bullet in my breast.
Don’t send me a parcel at Christmas time
Of socks and nutty and wine
And don’t depend on a long week-end
By the Great Western line.
Farewell Aggie-Weston. The barracks at Guz,
Hang my tiddley suit on the door
I’m sewn up neat in a canvas sheet,
And I shan’t be home no more.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 November 2011 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

Oh mother my mouth is full of stars

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 November 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry to hear that NV :-( You moving out?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 11 November 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

how do

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link

know anything with john terry?

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

dunno, trying to think of a word that rhymes with "front"

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 November 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

LBI not quite yet but i'm looking :(

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 November 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

'national'

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

John Terry has never publically supported the policies of the National Front.
He's still a cunt.

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 November 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

don't scan

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerihew

tsk, philistines

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 November 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

just cos some cunt named a thing don't make it a thing imo

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

eh apologies lapsed into the c-word vernacular there

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

so we're back here are we?

i live in a new house now.

work internet filter wouldn't let me open this thread cos of "adult content".

too hungover to be useful today but the hangover is a hangover from old me cos i swear leaves have been turned. and today feels too early to be back tbh.

Nogood (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 09:55 (twelve years ago) link

oh and it feels nice to have SB back :D

Nogood (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 09:56 (twelve years ago) link

i remember when sb etc etc

wb imo i never really warmed to julie lagger tbh

DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ESdn0MuJWQ&ob=av3e

guilty pleasure but the sky's so blue today

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2UriAMDuwA

also feeling this, fucking ludicrous 80s video aside

summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 January 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

fucking blue moon saturday

waning white energy (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

ridin solo owns!!!

markers, Sunday, 22 January 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Tiredness is a constant I could do away with if I slept more regularly. But the hours I’d have to put into sleep come out of my hours, the precious stuff that I don’t sell to somebody else for the means to live.

Four hours of possession in a partied house, bar-tending or gigoloing as required.

The potency of cheap music and old adverts and no imagination. Reading about the Zulu nation at a loss, really. In weak sunshine and massive arrears of chores and a fragile sense of grubby peace that cd pop like a soap bubble any moment now.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:05 (twelve years ago) link

otm

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:08 (twelve years ago) link

trying to ignore the gnattering that hums inside my own discontent, however much I want to hear it outside me. Ever feel like there is something utterly significant hanging in the air around you whilst people – peg-sized from up here in my overlook window – just follow oblivious insect trails around the city?

At least a misanthropy that recognises it’s wrong. Sorry if you’re annoying me I know really somewhere I’m annoying myself.

But only because I could eat up all that space, own the stillness and futility if I didn’t have to eat sometimes, stay warm, show up where people need me.

I guess I don’t need to broadcast this but I don’t know why/not

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:14 (twelve years ago) link

ah shit sometimes gnomic is easier than working out what you want :-)

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/01/97/019779_bf851ae7.jpg

feel like Scott Street's dead, unlowering bridge is doing solid metaphorical work here

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:21 (twelve years ago) link

"academic language" made me realise that there is an unlowering bridge between some of us that no experience will ever close? similar-looking creatures living in parallel worlds that superimpose over each other so we look like we're moving in the same space but from our own vantages we're just looking outwards at peg-sized Sims following invisible clockwork ley lines

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link

There’s a book from which one can learn many things, entitled Sexual Life in Ancient China [by Robert H. van Gulik (Leiden: E. J. Brill, 1961)]. This book shows clearly that manuals of love and manuals of military strategy are indiscernible, and that new strategic and military statements are produced at the same time as new amorous statements.

contreatable logorrhea (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:48 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

a life boiled down to eroge and hangovers is at least still a life

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

"For me, gothic art (art gothique) is simply a corruption of the word argotique (cant), which sounds exactly the same. This is in conformity with the phonetic law, which governs the traditional cabala in every language and does not pay any attention to spelling... Moreover, dictionaries define argot as 'a language peculiar to all individuals who wish to communicate their thoughts without being understood by outsiders'. Thus it certainly is a spoken cabala. In our day, cant is spoken by the humble people, the poor, the despised, the rebels, calling for liberty and independence, the outlaws, the tramps and the wanderers. Cant is the cursed dialect, banned by high society, by the nobility (who are really so little noble), the well-fed and self-satisfied middle class, luxuriating in the ermine of their ignorance and fatuity. It remains the language of a minority of individuals living outside accepted laws, conventions, customs and etiquette. The term voyous (street-arabs) that is to say voyants (seers) is applied to them and the even more expressive term sons or children of the sun.
Tradition assures us that men spoke it before the building of the Tower of Babel, which event caused this sacred language to be perverted and to be totally forgotten by the greater part of humanity. Today, apart from cant, we find its character in a few local dialects, such as Picard, Provençal, etc. and in the language of the gypsies."

Fulcanelli: The Mystery of the Cathedrals

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link

donnez-moi une autre pétard...

thomasintrouble, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

so blue.

Harold Budd - By the Dawn's Early Light
Various - Starving But Happier!
(The) Pentangle - Basket of Light
Lal & Mike Waterson - Bright Phoebus
June Tabor - Abyssinians
Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear
Joni - Clouds & Song to a Seagull
Hood - Cold House
Bonnie Prince Billy - Beware
Vinicius Cantuaria - Samba Carioca
Thanksgiving - Cave Days and Moments
Philip Glass - Mishima
Various - Katawa Shoujo Enigmatic Box of Sound

and here i am, frozen aged 17. which isn't a good look in yr head for 43. fixating on things that are almost certainly not out there, or unreachably far and unlikely like travelling to another star.

i shd weed the little ugly patch in front of the house. i shd go and buy rum. i shd move away from the computer, ma'am.

blue, blue saturday.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 09:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/home.png

you can (just) see my house from here

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 09:57 (twelve years ago) link

ha, I have pissed against that wall. sorry :-)

thomasintrouble, Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

but if next time I'm passing I hear Basket Of Light, I'll surely tip my hat in that direction.

thomasintrouble, Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:20 (twelve years ago) link

oh i'm further down no worries

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

the last couple of weeks i've become obsessed with the sadness of not being 20, unhealthily sad about it i think. because of wanting the romance that's possible when you're young, but feels insurmountably difficult when you're 40-something.

i'm kind of amused by the subtle refinements my brain seems to find to re-express its horror at mortality. and there's just the faintest tinge of pleasure to this overwhelming sadness, something to do with at least touching the shadow of what i can't have. but still this isn't great, to be this sad every day.

dunno what i'm saying, i just had to try and read that in black and white.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 April 2012 02:50 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe you're growing up, again? Things that changed direction at a certain point in life have to go back to that fork in the road and take the other path. You see the familiar surroundings, differently now, but you'll pass them in some kind of order, I imagine, and end up somewhere new eventually.

That's probably indefensibly twee. Sorry.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 2 April 2012 02:56 (twelve years ago) link

no i've pondered the same thing myself. like i've rewound to the point before my last relationship began. i'm feeling indefensibly twee about 80 percent of the time right now *bitter lol*

i dunno. i pontificate a lot about change but i ain't changing very much.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 April 2012 03:00 (twelve years ago) link

I've been hanging out with earth mothers, I can't help myself. Give yourself some credit and some space for the journey that you're on, is all I'm saying.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 2 April 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link

:) thanks

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 April 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link

You have rewound! Because in relationships each person cedes things to the other one, each one becomes the keeper of certain kinds of things, memories, tasks, ways of being. You're remaking yourself, you know. It's not a small thing.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 2 April 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link

There's probably a rebirth story in there somewhere but now I'm just making up a mystery religion based on a walk in the woods.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 2 April 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link

i'm just hungover enough to be too fuzzy-headed to concentrate on anything, and just sad enough to not know what to do with myself, feel lumpen and old and ugly and pondering the mysteries of how do you meet people and how do you make life move forward without going to a pub because the only person i meet in the pub is drunky noodle and his shambling amnesiac decline, and now to take the piss "Endlos...Endlos" is ringing out of the speakers...and it's a sunny day and i can do whatever the hell i want and the world is outside and i am stuck, stuck

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

Europa Endlos
Wirklichkeit und Postkarten Bilder
Europa Endlos
Eleganz und Dekadenz

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

end. loss. hahahaha ffs

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

A man that builds a prettie house in sweete and holsome ayre,
With goodly rowms and choise of place, and windows large and fayre,
Shall heer his neighbour streight disprayes the seate and eek the fraem;
Yet hee that praets wants wealth and wit, and cannot mende the seam.

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

At the High Crosse, in a disguised manner, stood FAEM, very orderly set forth, and spoke as followeth, by an excellent boy:

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

tendency to follow rabbit holes further and further down for want of anything better to do but at bottom not so much wonderland as earthworms and rabbit shit

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

lookit now

There's plenty lumpen and ugly (and getting there, oldwise) of us that do ok. And we do it without being brilliant- an advantage you have, afaic. Sure, maybe not as cranky, tbf, but i mean cranky works for lots of ppl ito friends/lovers. Not saying 'gtf out there' or w/e but i might be hinting at 'don't be an ass'

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:39 (twelve years ago) link

it's a sheer question of practicalities rather than moxie, i fear

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:41 (twelve years ago) link

moxie, afaict, seems to be an ability to ignore the odds

j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Friday, 13 April 2012 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCq8jx49nDU

fucking love this so hard

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

was gonna post brenda lee's im sorry and then evan lurie's track on the trees lounge soundtrack but you know

this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCG26OvcMP4

coal, Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

seriously this is prob nowhere near the best ron trent record but the piano at 3:41

coal, Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

i enjoyed that

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

such a religious hangover today, the world so vivid and tactile around me as i secede from it. booming around work evidently still hammered and surfing on warm "one of us" tolerance tho i'm fully aware i need to start topping the booze tank up asap because when this wears off and i sink into properly hungover it's gonna hurt hurt hurt...i am gonna sail like Bas Jan Ader until you and you and you can't see me but krishna it's so beuatifullll

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2012 08:34 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-cJm7-M7Bc

coal, Friday, 20 April 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYSVJ7zOabQ

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2012 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

Friday night = David McCallum in The Invisible Man and a Pink Panther candy bar and the comfort of nothing and it's all a million years ago

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEVrRHXxxL4&feature=related

bang bang bang

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2012 11:00 (twelve years ago) link

feel like i'm gon' bowk if i touch alcohol today.

off to touch alcohol.

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:39 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

i suppose the real world is okay but i'd much rather go and sleep in the sea today

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:02 (twelve years ago) link

Xeristar, y'are y'are y'are

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:07 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HcLLi6MXKg

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:07 (twelve years ago) link

i mean we are ape-y and not much imbued with magic or wonder

― Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:22 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:08 (twelve years ago) link

i've got nothing to do today but smile

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:23 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/staks.jpg

Why should I let the toad work
Squat on my life?
Can’t I use my wit as a pitchfork
And drive the brute off?

Six days of the week it soils
With its sickening poison -
Just for paying a few bills!
That’s out of proportion.

Lots of folk live on their wits:
Lecturers, lispers,
Losers, loblolly-men, louts-
They don’t end as paupers;

Lots of folk live up lanes
With fires in a bucket,
Eat windfalls and tinned sardines-
They seem to like it.

Their nippers have got bare feet,
Their unspeakable wives
Are skinny as whippets - and yet
No one actually _starves_.

Ah, were I courageous enough
To shout, Stuff your pension!
But I know, all too well, that’s the stuff
That dreams are made on:

For something sufficiently toad-like
Squats in me, too;
Its hunkers are heavy as hard luck,
And cold as snow,

And will never allow me to blarney
My way of getting
The fame and the girl and the money
All at one sitting.

I don’t say, one bodies the other
One’s spiritual truth;
But I do say it’s hard to lose either,
When you have both.

chilled in blazing sun with pensioners and loblolly-men yesterday. will wrngle my liver thru same again today goodbye goodbye goofbye

melodic yew (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 08:54 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfQMqbRrDJs

tonight we die in hull

melodic yew (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRPk9QWhWQc

melodic yew (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 09:10 (twelve years ago) link

can still feel my grandmother's bedroom, the light and the dust and the smell of oil of ulay and the window over the road and the books and the seventies

melodic yew (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 09:11 (twelve years ago) link

Cyders

ahhhhhhh shit here comes the motherfuckin thread cops (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://bighugelabs.com/onblack.php?id=5493122269&size=large&bg=white

coal, Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49469560@N07/5504445249/lightbox/

coal, Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3101/3168427036_4fd8a3346f_o.jpg

coal, Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.flickr.com/photos/13296226@N02/3948985466/lightbox/

coal, Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

sweet pix

Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oospWucgxac

coal, Sunday, 3 June 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl4pJwcE7JI

coal, Sunday, 3 June 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

seriously this is prob nowhere near the best ron trent record but the piano at 3:41

― coal, Saturday, 14 April 2012 02:35 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think it's my favourite.

second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, 3 June 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

its become mine too

coal, Sunday, 3 June 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okWs-O0AyJQ

coal, Monday, 4 June 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzg8EprUFrI

coal, Saturday, 9 June 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

thought of this thread while reading about these wronguns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeleton_Army

too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

thanks for that land of green ginger hadn't heard of that particular one will watch soon

coal, Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

Skeleton Army, now there's a vocation

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

Skeleton Army vs Salvation Army? pfft... try Guy Rioters vs police and cavalry
http://www.open.ac.uk/Arts/history-from-police-archives/RB1/Pt1/pt1GuyRiots.html
A long way from...
http://www.spelthorne.gov.uk/pic_surreypolicelogo.gif

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

risked derailing the behaviour management training i'm working on because i can't get into the notion of negative behaviour. supposed to be saying simple things simply but am all for mumbling koans into my chest right now or playfully pulling the wings off butterfly truisms.

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

spreeishness scares me a little cos it's the uncontrolled upswing after the weight of depression loosens hold, but i'm still hostage to ree-sponsah-bilitay and all that other boring dead stuff

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 June 2012 09:49 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

nothing's equivalent to a lloyd cole state of mind

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 July 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

some slight wagon-slippage, i'm so bad at maintaining motivation. my life feels coated in a veneer of grubby decay and cobwebs tbh. will try harder.

dear passenger in the battered Clio on the corner of Wilberforce Drive this morning, i didn't mean to stare but when you bellowed at yr boyfriend "WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING?" with the window wound down i was kinda startled.

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 08:35 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0dCvb4xZwI&feature=relmfu

flying glass shards slomoing past us in the dark = life is a thing worth the bruises

Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 August 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

thnk we've consistently backed the wrong pwnies here in the yoo kay but there's always the dream verzh of somebody else's territory to explore/disapper/take a short walk out of the tent

Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 August 2012 13:10 (eleven years ago) link

simple joylessness of conspiracies funny idiots still idiots and i been looking thru the wrong lens at the wrong slide

Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 August 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

this makes me happy

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/419783_10152022868655302_2127060784.jpg

listening to "Man in the Mirror" 30 or 40 times on a loop today makes me happy

touchy feely world-at-an-angle of kids with autism makes me happy

have to say it was a good day

just one little Tayto (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

life is a thing worth the bruises = win

coming up England by another line
BLAOW BLAOW BLAOW BLOWN TO DEATH

boooooo he ain't hardcore (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 September 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

love of my life forever

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/P1000211.jpg

boooooo he ain't hardcore (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 September 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

way too cute

surm, Saturday, 1 September 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

she is no lie the smartest person i know

boooooo he ain't hardcore (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 September 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

and i say this not in a proprietary way but in a "jesus i am so lucky to know you" way

boooooo he ain't hardcore (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 September 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

can she pick a first xi from our sorry shower?

darraghback (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 September 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

she'd have a go tbh, she's the only one of my offspring that got the football gene

boooooo he ain't hardcore (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 September 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

wd probably say "buy one striker" ??

boooooo he ain't hardcore (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 September 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

she's hired

darraghback (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 September 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

i hope yr dad won't mind me saying she has something of the mischievous cailín about her

Pretty Girls Max Bygraves (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 1 September 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Shouldn't of got rid of Mick he loves a relegation battle. Wouldn't be surprised if a club picked Mick McCarthy and Terry Conner up they form a nice partnership.

- con, England, 3/9/2012 18:32

Einstürzende Joebarton (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

That girl...is my favorite.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

My favorite little monster.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

i made a massive, um, error of judgement this weekend and ended up severely upsetting two people i had no wish to upset, thusly hoeing my own row of woe. and i don't think anybody in this troisangle is being wholly sane or reasonable but it has made me look at my own stunted emotional intelligence and think "hey! you're pretty stupid, son".

(side issue of fucking my old man off but he was asking for it, see parent threads passim)

question about when self-absorbity slides over into stupidity and when that curdles into straight fecklessness but fuckit, i got work to concentrate on and a house to get spotless - not that i live in squalor but y'know - so i can move into another nicer house and sobriety to manage and so forth, i dunno, games to play or something

now wd be a good week to get that yurt out on the steppes that i dream about. i shd probably get a quarantine tag or somethink too

boooooo he ain't hardcore (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 07:30 (eleven years ago) link

on the whole tho today i feel like writing more than doing what i'm paid for and exploring the concept of constructive boredom and also why am i so knackered in the morning when i've been going to bed at a sensible time for weeks?

boooooo he ain't hardcore (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 07:33 (eleven years ago) link

keep on keepin on imo, i heard that at some stage there's a tangible reward but even if not sure fuckit it's no worse, really.

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

feeling pretty zen about all this, just an outsider looking in, only really need warmth and food and Football Manager tbh

Une ville musulmane dans la Chine du Nord sous les Mongols (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

i read a news story the other day which in a roundabout way reminded me of peter tinniswood's uncle mort dying of a wasting disease and inconveniencing mrs brandon by not supplying a definite death date so she could organise the funeral, so i did an ilx search on pt and many of the results were you praising him:) i loved what i read of him too. i should read more, i only ever read a couple of the carter brandon books and it 's been years and they were so funny.

estela, Sunday, 16 September 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

there's a dude on itv's 'grimefighters' from wolverhampton and he pronounces baby as BABBY

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

narrated by michael gambon by the sounds of it, he knows how to get paid

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

aww no john sergeant, i should have known it wasn't croaky enough

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

hence the term of approbation amongst Wolves fans: "come on me babbies"

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 06:10 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

love those

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Saturday, 6 October 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

thanks :) took a lot of ropey ones too but the fair is such a treat, cd have took pics all night if Hannah wasn't nagging me

vegetarian beef (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 October 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

it's a dizzy scary moment of freedom when you remember you can do what you like to yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjEHoz1r3bs

and the world might pick up the tab

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:04 (eleven years ago) link

and as if by magic my phone goes ring and i pour a little Tsikoudia

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:06 (eleven years ago) link

sup nv

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

hey dude :D

not drowning but waving

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:09 (eleven years ago) link

i shd've run away with the fair cos the trawlers don't leave from here no more

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:09 (eleven years ago) link

also Al Green = Jesus

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link

trawlers tend to be dry these days, tbh. the aul fella often regales me with the tale of leaving a crew (including hull boys) in a late house in prob the faroes and taking the trawler back to ijmuiden with just him, the engineer and iirc the cook. He rang ahead and ordered a new set that new when to not be pissheads, iirc none of the new guys were from hull but two were grimsby lads

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:12 (eleven years ago) link

:D

dryness at sea i cd live with. those guys made up for it back at home, "3 day millionaires" was the common term for them, tailored suits, spending large, then back away again

like to drink with a few ex sea-going guys, not so many fishermen round anymore tho

also SUPREME NIQUE TA MERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYila4WTEsk

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:14 (eleven years ago) link

jay that first hit of raki in the mornin it's enough to make you wet yrself

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

no youtube on phone ffs

The aforementioned aul fella is a long practiced millionaire of that type, unfortunately the rest of the time he was out we veered from church mice to hungry church mice who needed delousing, still tho lol

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

seafarers always a+ drink companions tho, that's otm

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

i remember you saying about yr dad

shd check back upthread how much Hull trawler-law i've already wanked on about, they were cowboys for real, i missed my only viable vocation tbh

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

love to but i'm on phones for next three hours apologizin for admin errors dad'd be so proud. Behave

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://images.thebookpeople.co.uk/images/books/medium/AEVEP.jpg

required reading

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

everything's "behaviour"

i meant i shd check tbh. there was less than i thought there wd be. glamis has murdered hull. we piss about in the ghost town.

they used to read a lot of cowboy fiction, felt like they was out on the range in the arctic ocean. hence Hull FC's theme tune being "Old Faithful"

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

OH WOW NEVER KNEW JOHNSON HAD WRITTEN A TRAWLER BOOK I'M ON THAT SHIT

wonder if the dude knew hull, quite poss

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/P1000397.jpg

liveblogging decay for entertainment and edification

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yqOmTKhRQI&feature=related

this is so fucking dope

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya2TlGvY6nM&feature=related

this is reprehensible. it's hilarious, obv

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link

time has slowed right down to an awesome crawl since i got my tsikoudia on

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

same sluggish drip as the frozen spirit out the bottle

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

icically how u slowit down to an extent. These phones are making the time slow n all, think i prefer yr version

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

think slowitdown has always been part of my love for the booze, than and anchorage in a proper reality that's less full of head-wasps and the inevitable

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

that "IV my people" upthread's a bit good isn't it?

also I was chuffed to have got out of having to tek kids to fair this year, I'm far too much of a cooped-up miser to enjoy it.

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

ha! i always used to hate going to the fair and now i'm a single loser who misses them in the week i love it - no miserablism.

Supreme NTM are def worth everybody's attention, won't front that my french is good enough to pick up all the lyrics but their flow is beautiful.

i need to pull my head out of my batty and come out for a drink with you and chris et al soon

Richard Rorty is the shit (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

went outside for a fag and two nice young men wandered buy, asked me for a roll-up and then offered me some chemicals

serendipity

Richard Rorty is the shit (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFjle_sTE1A

adventure time

Richard Rorty is the shit (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

dryness at sea i cd live with. those guys made up for it back at home, "3 day millionaires" was the common term for them, tailored suits, spending large, then back away again

'...like the 'Sinker', the man who sank the shafts at the Mickley pit,
who thought nothing of being let down on a frosty morning into a
flooded pit up to his chest, baling water into buckets to be drawn up
to the top. To let off steam he saved his wages for a month or so then
headed for the town to blow them all on beer, which called 'lowsening
his skin'.'

Fizzles, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

i need to pull my head out of my batty and come out for a drink with you and chris et al soon

yep indeed! give chris a ring and we'll sort out a pint or six.

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 18 October 2012 08:20 (eleven years ago) link

well, maybe not the beer :/

lol

a pass-agg to indier (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 October 2012 08:21 (eleven years ago) link

spot the northern softy imo, you mention pints he assumes beer

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 October 2012 09:15 (eleven years ago) link

I have a bunch of things to do today. I have a bunch of things to do every day. Most of those things I don’t want to do, I have no interest in doing. I don’t know where my interests lie. Some people would say I am a lazy man. Some people would say I am a self-centred man. Those opinions may be justified. I don’t know if those words, “lazy” or “self-centred”, are criticisms, or unchangeable aspects of human personality, or virtues, or empty words. I don’t know if all words aren’t empty.

When I start to write I do so with the idea that it might help me to think. I was going to say “in the belief” rather than “with the idea” but I don’t think this thought is as confident as a belief. I simply hope – hope? – that by writing things down I can tease out a train of thought, like untangling very knotted string. But I suspect that the fact of setting a word down onto the page, even if the page is as ephemeral and immaterial as this computer document, makes a decision for me, or edges out possible thoughts that haven’t reached the point of expression – by expression not suggesting that the thought lies somewhere pre-linguistic waiting to be bodied in language so that the reader – and I don’t know who I intend the reader to be, since in one way I’m speaking to myself but in another way I’m sure I intend to broadcast these words somehow because I’d welcome the response of a voice that isn’t mine to help me try to understand what I’m saying, even though I’ll likely disagree with that exterior voice because my own – vanity? – won’t want to acknowledge any criticism, or rather any idea that might prod me out of my comfortable sloth – so that the reader gains direct access to my inner pre-linguistic consciousness, an access I don’t appear to have myself, by the way, except inasmuch as I’m the reader.

That went interminable.

I have a bunch of things to do today and I can’t sit here right now listening to this mp3 of birdsong and passing traffic because I have to go to work, for a while, otherwise I won’t be able to afford my house and I’ll end up living somewhere entirely unsuitable for accommodating the children when they want to come to stay, even though personally right now I don’t think I care where I live, even though I know I would care as soon as I had to live somewhere uncomfortable, physically or psychically or whatever else. Even though it’s easy to be romantic when you’re warm and peaceful, easy to pretend you don’t care about hardship when you’re not experiencing hardship. I have a bunch of things to do today and really I’d much rather sit here untangling this string, tangling it maybe, more likely.

So I’m going to post my writing in the space that I’ve made here because, like I said, the point of writing is maybe to invite other writing to come over and inter-write itself with yours. Maybe. I don’t know very much, I’m sure of that. And every piece of this writing that I set out to do now – acknowledging that I often get bored of games very quickly and give them up and move on because I seem to be quite distractable, maybe – is going to finish not because I’ve finished thinking but because I’ve got a tedious bunch of other things to do.

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link

admirably expressed. i'm better at getting the immediate things done than i ever was, and i suspect this makes me a marginally more useful human fetcher than was previously the case. Print this. Sort this. Stamp this. Show these ones all that. I'm awaiting the presumed payoff to becoming an expert checklister. Presumably somebody with a big enough pointing finger will come along one day and point out the point.

i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 11:06 (eleven years ago) link

work huh?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

not exclusively! could have expanded to meet these ppl here, play footy here, pay rent now, clean this, shave that, cook this, read this, remember that all this is v. enjoyable and fulfilling you ingrate.

i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

a driving lesson here, some bills to pay, some cards to send, some pubs to keep out of. i'm learning - or being coached in - the art of thinking more than 3 hours ahead, so i don't drink myself to the point of failing to turn up for work the next day. but i don't like thinking more than 3 hours ahead. i'm not sure i like living in a fog or drunkover either but that's a slightly different point.

i'm not whining, i feel like i'm calmly examining the situation i find myself in and trying to work out what's to be done. the fact that tens of millions of people might find themselves in a very similar situation with no clue what's to be done is of no consequence to me tbh. or another tens of millions of people who think they know exactly what's to be done but that looks like death and madness to me, that's of no consequence, i don't want to scribble on anybody else's map of the world.

there are thousands of millions of people with completely different maps. some of them might be more interesting than others.

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

maybe not so much trying to work out what's to be done in any urgent sense as just finding it more interesting to meditate than to get on with the things that other people think i should get on with.

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

maybe literally i don't think the unexamined life is worth living.

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

but everything i say is only prescriptive for me.

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

blocks of contemplation is mostly what i look for in everything now but maybe also mostly all i feel able to do now. keep searching for music as an enveloping sea of sound without the marks of human interference even though i know, i know.

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

maybe just shut up and work for a bit, dummkopf

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

I don’t know where my interests lie. Some people would say I am a lazy man. Some people would say I am a self-centred man. Those opinions may be justified. I don’t know if those words, “lazy” or “self-centred”, are criticisms, or unchangeable aspects of human personality, or virtues, or empty words.

Feeling this a lot lately. Apparently there are people who don't hate their jobs, I don't know? Why don't I really like to do anything except exactly what I want to do at that moment? Am I a horrible baby? Etc.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

because i work with people with autism spectrum conditions and because i see similar personality traits in my family and because i fixate on what i want and not what i have to do i sometimes ponder the inference, but a medical answer wouldn't be much of an answer to me either. i don't care about whether it's right to suck it up, i don't want to suck it up.

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

Haha. Same. It's also not about hard work, because I'll work my ass off in terrible conditions as long as I give a shit, you know? It's the boredom....

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

Some times I think I should have apprenticed to a woodworker instead of going to college. How do I turn this around? I don't know how much of my life I'm willing to sacrifice to do something less numbing for a living. Move across the country? Move back to my parents' at 36? I don't have the money to go back to school, or to stop working for even a month, or to move....

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

Hey this thread is fun. Sorry for hijacking, though. Carry on, I'm going to do some meaningless paperwork now.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

can't hijack a thread that meanders where it wants :)

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

hey how bout that new radiohead joint huh

i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

http://imageshack.us/a/img90/5210/76887629.jpg

hey! hey! i can relate

best wishes to everyone else who has ever thought "am I lazy, self-centred, a horrible baby? why can I not get my act together, engage sufficient willpower to Improve Myself in employable or other manners, not live in a pigsty forever going 'oh shit, a Final Notice'*, actually work out what I even want from life? etc"

(* srsly thank the universe for direct debit doing the little job of remembering 99% of my bills for me, otherwise I would have been living in a gutter since approx 20 minutes after I moved out of my parents' house)

the sad thing is right now I actually don't hate my job (in theory, at least) and can figure out some things to do that would make me better at it, dislike myself less, and would in theory be all-round good things to have done, but the actual doing them? ahh... maybe next week? you see I am very tired lately, permanently, and so on

doxxy fule (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

otm, with a larger looming feeling that at 31 i should prob actually start deciding between economics, english or accountancy and maybe get on dat ting, seeing as physics, law, computer science and joining the public service til i work it out....haven't worked out

i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

It kind of seems like a liability that I've made my personal life into something I like so much? Because I do, I love it. But maybe it's just a distraction from not having really committed to job or calling? Is it fundamentally immature to put having a "fun" or "good" life ahead of being professionally successful or fulfilled?

Also the more fulfilling and useful my life gets the more I resent spending 2/3 of my waking hours in a sunless box, pushing buttons and massaging egos.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

wow you have a button that does that?

i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus wept, just so fucking lost, you know?

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 October 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

(and sorry for piggy-backing the thread NV - went to the depression thread but it was active and my own complaints felt comparatively frivolous.)

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 October 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

help yourself :(

lostness is a large part of this thread

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 October 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

thanks NV and yes, it was the first thread that sprang to mind, for the pinpoint expressions of lostness that can be found here. well, that and the music. come for the depression stay for the tunes. and it's Saturday as well I guess.

in the pub. it doesn't help. but it doesn't help less uselessly than everything else.

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

going out in a bit, watch some football, hang with cronies, poverty and sore throat and the anxiety twitches scheduled for some time tomorrow.

but if i'm good and i get my shit together i'm gonna go bus ride into the country tomorrow to the beautiful church at Patrington where somebody's apparently gonna play some Steve Reich and Philip Glass and some dude i've not heard of called Golijov who looks a bit hmmm not sure. sounds like a better way of using my loneness than the drinky award fishing for women who like ropey drunks tho.

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

awkward fishing, maybe i meant

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

golijov got a fair bit of lurid praise in the broadsheet supplements last time classical music needing saving iirc

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

seems a bit film-scorey from the summaries i've read but we'll see how it plays

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

and the thing about being lost...the thing is

i don't know if there's anywhere to find

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

going out in a bit, watch some football, hang with cronies, poverty and sore throat and the anxiety twitches scheduled for some time tomorrow.

but if i'm good and i get my shit together i'm gonna go bus ride into the country tomorrow to the beautiful church at Patrington where somebody's apparently gonna play some Steve Reich and Philip Glass and some dude i've not heard of called Golijov who looks a bit hmmm not sure. sounds like a better way of using my loneness than the drinky award fishing for women who like ropey drunks tho.

yeah friend just invited me to come round and watch Jeff Stelling and look after the dog, but Stelling's near artistic level of omniconpetence is not what I need right now. There's always Paul Merson I guess.

description of yr day tomorrow has genuinely cheered me up slightly (such things exist!). tho when I went to a cello concert recently (Bach, Zimmerman, and a feeblr composition by the cellist himself) the cellist got cramp in his finger near the climax of the Bach final movement.

It was appealingly in how it exposed the frailty of virtuoso performance, but I was in deep by that stage and it was frustrating and jarring.

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

Lol @ golijov being played at all.

Reich and Glass have their moments so hope its good. xp = hi there fizzles :)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

feeblr

social networking for emotionally frail hipsters.

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

btw fizzles, you shd go to the Pre-Raphs @ tate = went yesterday, totally cheered me up too.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

and the thing about being lost...the thing is

i don't know if there's anywhere to find

I was sitting reading about Romanesque art and I was just "jesus wtf are you doing? your life is totally unstable, you're skint, lonely, tired and sinking. the fuck you care about Cistercian aesthetic moralising?" x x to the point of tears (and rightly fucking so).

it's not so much the lack of anywhere to find (tho it can be that very much at times) it's my mediocre-to-poor caretaking of my own life. tho the two are entwined ("building to what, you fuck? won't bother"). love, creative imagination, and social engagement seem vital but totally absent.

hi xyzzzz__!

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

btw fizzles, you shd go to the Pre-Raphs @ tate = went yesterday, totally cheered me up too.

thanks - definitely need to do that. will go when I get paid.

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

well i don't know that it's any consolation that somebody else is skint, lonely, tired and sinking but there it is, we are a club, if not a very exclusive one

rhino what boys like (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

it's a consolation. and as you say, welcome to the majority of any population. back to the pub. thanks for the time and space to give forth.

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

i went to 1 natural history museum and 1 national gallery, this is very undmcy behaviour iirc

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 October 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Un-D.M.C.

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 27 October 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

fizzles i may not be ideal therapist but want to get a drink let off steam etc this week?

woof, Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

cheers woof - yeah I shd be around, though not much to vent I suspect. the details always seem both ineffable and mundane. + work and emergent hivernal instincts keeping me off the streets at the moment. but a drink is always good (and convivial conversation is always the best therapy). will get in touch at some point.

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

I should be able to borrow a card from work that'll get you in to the pre-Raphs for free. ILX-mail me if you are interested.

Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Saturday, 27 October 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks SV, appreciated - think i know a couple of people who can sort me out a card, but will let you know if not.

Fizzles, Sunday, 28 October 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

back at gallery, we finished early yesterday to get the footy in, as we will today. relationships = compromise

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 October 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

Sort of reply to in orbit: Back at parents' for a month now, not a good way to avoid being lost. Amplifies it if anything, emphasises I'm not that guy anymore. Have a couple years worth of study loans left, but what to use them on? Eh, think about it later, and later, etc.

albvivertine, Sunday, 28 October 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

I was sitting reading about Romanesque art and I was just "jesus wtf are you doing? your life is totally unstable, you're skint, lonely, tired and sinking. the fuck you care about Cistercian aesthetic moralising?" x x to the point of tears (and rightly fucking so).

it's not so much the lack of anywhere to find (tho it can be that very much at times) it's my mediocre-to-poor caretaking of my own life. tho the two are entwined ("building to what, you fuck? won't bother"). love, creative imagination, and social engagement seem vital but totally absent.

ugh this is me nearly every day.

it's not saturday but i am not leaving the bed today except for food and toilet.

have a 10 page paper due tuesday; no idea where that's coming from.

toto coolio (clouds), Sunday, 28 October 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

be well everybody :)

y'all do whatever it takes to make the day worth living in

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 October 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

and here's some comfort music for a cold wet Sunday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiehI0NDubw

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 October 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

Plate of broccoli disguised as cheesy eggs making it worth getting up. Broccoli lightly coated in...cheese and eggs and pancetta grease.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Sunday, 28 October 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

i felt too hungover to cook but now i think i've made unwise junk food purchases when i shd have bought broccoli. maybe i'll order Chinese takeout later to make up.

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 October 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

Always buy broccoli, you never know when it'll come in handy.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Sunday, 28 October 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

i try and keep frozen veg at all times but broccoli is something i don't have. just remembered i've got cauliflower tho.

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

i dont rly cook but once i roasted broccoli with parmesan and olive oil and it was quite interesting in a way that i cbfed ever doing again

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 October 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

somewhat more typically today i have consumed half a pack of borderline stale soda bread, a v nice latte and a bottle of cava straight from the bottle cuz all the glasses are dirty and cbfed with dishwasher

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 October 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Will srsly consider drinking wine off the neck this eve when I venture into tropical storm to smoke--narrow mouth keeps the torrential rain out, u see.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Sunday, 28 October 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

i've had Pringles, sour cream and chive dip, an egg mayo sandwich and a pork and chorizo roll, plus my own bodyweight in orange squash. i definitely need a vegetable.

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 October 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

sturm und drank

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 October 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

how many desperate smokers get carried off by hurricanes every year?

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 October 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Sort of reply to in orbit: Back at parents' for a month now, not a good way to avoid being lost. Amplifies it if anything

I'll admit that I took longer to leave my parents' than I should have done (health & money problems turned into fear of change) and despite my posts on this thread I feel lost a lot less often than I did then. If nothing else dealing with the day-to-day running of the place instead of letting my parents do most of it keeps me BUSY enough not to think about the lostness so much. But then I am cohabiting, which takes away some of the bleakness at the end of the night when you start thinking "what am I doing with my life, I got home from work and bought food and cooked and washed up and now it is bedtime".

on the "today's diet" subthread, leftover takeaway curry for breakfast (probably more than last night, we over-ordered quite severely), then retreat to the pub for a liquid lunch, and home to graze on supermarket own-brand Wotsit knockoffs. trying to pretend that the presence of two vegetable dishes in the world's greasiest curry make it "healthy" somehow.

doxxy fule (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

it's like the salad on a doner, it's an important part of yr 5 a day

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

maybe i'll order Chinese takeout later to make up

― Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:56 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aw come on, this is TAKEAWAY or 1812 was all in vain

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

i use a lot less Americanisms than the kids but i have no strong feelings about takeout/takeaway, i think i drifted into takeout cos of echoes of "carry out"

anyway i dunno maybe a curry

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

"He tilts their tired faces/Gently to the spoon" is a brute of a lyric y'know, especially as weary/stoned as the arrangement feels

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

Also I think for me (possibly not you) it was impossible for me to live w/ my parents without descending into a vicious circle of being treated like a helpless, untrusted child -> acting like a helpless, untrusted child -> thinking "how could I ever make it on my own when I am like this and it's just the way I am" -> and repeat

there was a slice of lime in my lunchtime booze, also an important part of my 5 a day (certainly the only way I'd ever make it to 5)

doxxy fule (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

descending into a vicious circle of being treated like a helpless, untrusted child -> acting like a helpless, untrusted child -> thinking "how could I ever make it on my own when I am like this and it's just the way I am"

This is actually kind of how my work environment is, and I have taken to it all too readily because tbh it's exactly how I felt when I did live at home. Familiar patterns so easy to fall back into.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

...now you mention it there is an element of that to my current job too

doxxy fule (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

jesis chriost ghuys so paingfullty hingopver

chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovg1viheS3I&feature=relmfu

this is so nice

chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

just don't want to be alone but all i ever do is carry on in a way that guarantees being alone lol drunky irony

chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl8bbof547w&feature=related

^this is vertigo inducing but yeah, nice anyway

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

yeah. that bit around the 9 minute mark where his voice almost seems to lose it made me wonder what kind of unfathomable god that music is reaching towards. now i want to play it again.

chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

http://oriental-traditional-music.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/ustad-abdul-waheed-khan-died-1949-raga.html

Tracked this down, btw, 48 mins of it - let me know if interested and I can upload a link sometime.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

a link to a blog with another of his albums on that site, which i'll enjoy reading. and yeah, if you find time i wd be v. interested

chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

that second one is absolutely perfect right now.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah ws about to upload (d/l from p2p) but now i see there is a rapidshare link to the whole of Raga Darbari Kanada (the 48 min track) anyway. I just skimmed past the that, thought only uploaded the art work was uploaded.

The bolingo link has a bit more. That covers the remaining scraps but this has been quite a find. I sort of went on your Turkish ensemble actually looking for another Indian singer then found Waheed youtube by accident, then remembered I read about him years ago and started hunting again for that partic rec and found it!

This guy is amazing...only one listen so far but it will keep me busy.

And what isn't talked about in neither blog is that he taught Pran Nath *who then* taught La Monte Young, so there are further links.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

it's a great liberation from the same old tired nexus of emotions imo (<--only feel like this sometimes, other times I like the scrap) - regardless, will follow your investigations.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

site also links to this http://qawwal.blogspot.co.uk/ which i'm surprised i haven't come across before but i guess wdn't show high on a google search for me as it's mostly not in English

chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPZI6spIUpo

^love this - found it while looking for something by Ritwik Ghatak.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 November 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link

am trying hard to grasp nondualism, and to avoid speaking about things.

things keep harassing me tho but :\

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 November 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID4LcHzb4jA

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 5 November 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

trying to navigate this odd tension, between emptying myself and being a peaceful ghost and accepting impermanence; and then being at work and making decisions and judgements and having opinions, creating systems that have value and function tho i don't ultimately believe in those values or functions.

not that i've embraced impermanence either - every time i'm with my children i wanna reject that pain quiet strongly tho i know it won't disappear, in fact i think this is one of the big barriers, and i can imagine a path beyond it but i can't walk that path yet.

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 November 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwjndOmYrug

coal, Monday, 5 November 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64161058@N05/6921407307/sizes/l/

coal, Monday, 5 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno nv maybe it's best to recognize situations where a stoic/no-mind attitude could be useful as opposed to situations that seem to call for action?

doubting tuomas (clouds), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link

i was gonna post "i like big drinks and i cannot lie" here but then i forgot

i dunno clouds, i feel like no-mind is really necessary or not? i can participate when i'm asked, contrary to my moaning up there, but it feels v. tenuous today. i guess most of us skirt the line of not getting fired as close as we can.

i like everybody's tunes today, just wasn't able to listen at work.

srsly, i got nothing. that's ok.

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:08 (eleven years ago) link

read a ton of interesting a/theology today when i shd've been working, too

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

still at it?

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

aren't we all? /frankie howerd

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

emotion for continuance

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:18 (eleven years ago) link

the more i write like Charles Pooter the happier i am

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

likewise, but veering mor towards aspirations of mencken

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

Veering Mor, former Dutch foreign minister

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link

some days are better than others i guess, no matter how rationally one can approach... i don't know, lyfe

reading aurelius/lao tzu/et al can be comforting and attractive, especially living in a city and feeling like violence is underneath everything.

e.m. cioran might fit your mood? mb it would exacerbate it, i dunno.

i've finally mustered up enough energy to seriously look for a job where i can use whatever skills i've built up. i do have skills! it's good to remind oneself. really, i just can't work w/ teenagers or wear a fucking polo shirt.

doubting tuomas (clouds), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

drawing yr own limits is good and recognising yr own skills is better. and teenagers are exhausting as fuck tho i do enjoy their company :)

i think the whoel complaining vs consoling vs exacerbating vs trying to explicate is the whole reason i moan on this thread - i think you're right about comforting and attractive, typing misdirected words for my (much loved) but invisible internet friends is why i like this cosy hole of a thread - we can talk about nothing together and all get no closer - but flailing at the unpointable is good exercise

wanted to do smart epigraph here but bollocks, drunk. feel like i'm marching in time. it's just the other fuckers innit?

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

everyone needs to get the new lindstrom album, even if u are ambivalent about whether music has really been a worthwhile use of everyone's time these last few centuries, it has to be said that this is towards the better end of the music spectrum

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:52 (eleven years ago) link

is there guitars

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

is it better than Vitalogy?

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

it has production-sound and concept-sound and sound-sound. LOL.

doubting tuomas (clouds), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

why does he only use his surname

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

i have thought the same thing, but it is a good surname

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:56 (eleven years ago) link

that is true tbf

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 03:57 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like i am at an impasse wrt non-classical stuff; just autechre/drexciya/afx over and over

listening to a lot of prokofiev lately, esp the string quartets

doubting tuomas (clouds), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link

thanking clouds for bringing dojo to our attention, but saddened by the suggestion in his newer posts that he might not actually be a native german speaker trying to improvise in concept-english, and positively DEVUHSTATED by the possibility that we will never get to see a dojo-hongro discourse unless the big norwegian returns in good time

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link

i like prokofiev. the turkish/sufi/karnatic/dronetastic trail upthread is worth pursuing i think. i feel at an impasse with music tbh in terms of knowing what i want from it, but i like that sound right now, i like the unravelling of threads i can't follow

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link

jo-hon cru

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link

hongroe langsam style

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 04:05 (eleven years ago) link

ha — i had assumed he was 17 yr old wasp progeny that had maybe read abt adorno on wikipedia

i will try to explore more indian classical music over the break. i've been interested for a while but hard to find an entry point, those youtubes should do wunderschön.

doubting tuomas (clouds), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link

considered rebranding as "Lurching towards Jerusalem"

killed so many brain cells this past couple weeks but they weren't busy so hey

proposed CBBC show, Satori Superstore, we'll get Alain de Botton in to host and drown the fucker in a gunge tank

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

wd recommend Burton's Anatomy of Melancholy for such times (indeed any times). Forgive me quoting a big chunk, but this is one of my favourite written passages ever:

I hear new news every day, and those ordinary rumours of war, plagues, fires, inundations, thefts, murders, massacres, meteors, comets, spectrums, prodigies, apparitions, of towns taken, cities besieged in France, Germany, Turkey, Persia, Poland, &c., daily musters and preparations, and such like, which these tempestuous times afford, battles fought, so many men slain, monomachies, shipwrecks, piracies and sea-fights; peace, leagues, stratagems, and fresh alarms. A vast confusion of vows, wishes, actions, edicts, petitions, lawsuits, pleas, laws, proclamations, complaints, grievances are daily brought to our ears. New books every day, pamphlets, corantoes, stories, whole catalogues of volumes of all sorts, new paradoxes, opinions, schisms, heresies, controversies in philosophy, religion, &c. Now come tidings of weddings, maskings, mummeries, entertainments, jubilees, embassies, tilts and tournaments, trophies, triumphs, revels, sports, plays: then again, as in a new shifted scene, treasons, cheating tricks, robberies, enormous villainies in all kinds, funerals, burials, deaths of princes, new discoveries, expeditions, now comical, then tragical matters. Today we hear of new lords and officers created, tomorrow of some great men deposed, and then again of fresh honours conferred; one is let loose, another imprisoned; one purchaseth, another breaketh: he thrives, his neighbour turns bankrupt; now plenty, then again dearth and famine; one runs, another rides, wrangles, laughs, weeps, &c. This I daily hear, and such like, both private and public news, amidst the gallantry and misery of the world; jollity, pride, perplexities and cares, simplicity and villainy; subtlety, knavery, candour and integrity, mutually mixed and offering themselves...

Neil S, Thursday, 8 November 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

Anatomy of Melancholy is a book i've long wanted to read but never quite found the right copy to snuggle up with

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 November 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

I picked up an unread NYRB edition from a local charity shop for a couple of quid recently, that find made my day!

Neil S, Thursday, 8 November 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOnZ3YtA1Q0

really wanna rock Eazy's bathrobe look irl

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

Dear N

Had a dream about you last night, another little psychic reminder that as much as we're friends and co-parents, everything else is irrevocably over. And I woke up crying and then I went back to sleep and then when I woke up I wasn't sure if I'd been crying or dreaming about it. And then I dragged myself into work and had a little chat with my boss about a student who felt I'd patronised them the other day and then I lost my shit altogether and months worth of crying started busting out of me, such a mess, sitting here now after the storm sleepy and weepy and god help me.

And much as the memory of the dream hurts I still keep picking at it because, y'know, if love is dead then even the ghost of love is better than nothing at all. If I can't remember how happy we used to make each other then thinking about how sad your memory makes me now is at least the negative of that memory and I can make a contact print where all the love becomes ouch.

I'm not gonna tell you this because it's not cool. You don't need my unburdenment any more. So into my dead letter office it goes.

Love
J

movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 November 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link

hey.

threat of the author (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 November 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

Life eh?

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 10 November 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

having a chat with an Occupational Health nurse this morning and struggling to explain what's "wrong", tho i don't feel so bad tbh, but i just wanted to say "look, the void, it's over there"

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 November 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link

imagine she could see it, tho, hat'd be freaky enough, she'd say 'omg where did that void come from, how shocking'

bill paxman (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 November 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

where's the pic taken from NV?

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link

in Rugeley where my mom and dad live, we were walking along the canal bank

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

hmmm, work or suicide

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link

i can't afford to be unemployed but my flaky efforts to turn up on time every day and then do some productive stuff and deal with other people and give a shit and justify my existence are not helping anybody i don't think cos everything looks slightly green and alien right now and i don't know where the twitches and the vacancies and the talking out loud to myself - just out of earshot of other people, i'm not crazy - and the missing of bed and the fight or flight and the shut the fuck up dumbasses have a place in this other people world yuk so creepy so messy so unfair

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

Can you get signed off for a bit?

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link

Saying this as someone who has been lurking on this thread because I like your posts and I have similar issues myself but have never felt I had anything to add that you guys weren't saying better

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:06 (eleven years ago) link

i'm on reduced hours but lying in bed til i get delirious isn't helping either, i need structure but i hate structure, just responding to unwelcome pokes that keep me in the world

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

yeah yeah i mean i'm here but i'm not even

http://www.pavelmatela.com/images/parazit_Yves_Klein_leap_into_the_void_malir_prostoru_vrhajici_se.jpg

not sad not bored just hung out there

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link

i don't get what this concrete is that fixes people into their world and stops them moving or wanting to move, so much words unnecessary, actions unexamined unfelt living

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

i guess people want to stay in the little safety sphere they've constructed and are afraid that stepping out of it will fuck everything forever

ゑ (clouds), Thursday, 22 November 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

plus i've still got some good boxsets to catch and everything else seem's like it'd be work

bill paxman (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 November 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

ah man work seems like work

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

saw some packets of "SLIMING TEA" in a chinese supermarket window today

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

people with medical quals talking to me about 2 years to permanent abstinence from alcohol. quite scared of saying goodbye to my oldest friend.

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

On the other hand you might get to develop a passing acquaintance with your normal serotonin levels.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Friday, 23 November 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

:) the bit of me i hate agrees with you and is going to do this

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 November 2012 03:08 (eleven years ago) link

Excellent! Now that you mention it, does the sort of desperate desperation of the last few...weeks(?) have a sort of last gasp quality to it? I think you're ready to do something different.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Saturday, 24 November 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

when i read some of this thread back all you guys who i like to think of as my friends make me very happy, and i respect the ongoing struggles we all have to work out a liveable path, and i wish y'all nothing but understanding and love and whatever epiphanies you need :)

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 November 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

ah man work seems like work

― only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 November 2012

yeah but in it's favour i'll allow that work don't pretend to nothin fuckin else

bill paxman (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 November 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

is that its or it's ffs

bill paxman (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 November 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

fuckit grammar pedants can fuck off an all i'm plenty smart regardless and i'll argue it either way i guess

bill paxman (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 November 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

it's "its" but yeah grammar pedants gtf

only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 November 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

its bramble

Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 25 November 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

it's 'it's' because the 's belongs to it *slams drink on table*

bill paxman (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 November 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link

get happy be happy stay happy all on this thread.

can be pedant king, fuck a pedant

woof, Sunday, 25 November 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

can i just die now

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

just need you to get that report we spoke about yesterday on my desk first, ta

bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

i cdn't even form the words this week

but hugs, clouds

i've been packing in booze for the dry years ahead, probly not a top plan. feel like you need to be incredibly selfish to detox but hey why not.

Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like as long as there's soup and chocolate and Football Manager and books to read and some music, that's enough, that ought to be more than enough

and i'll just bumble thru the crap inbetween

Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

i'm just holding on until the end of the semester

it's ridiculous, there isn't even that much stuff for me to do; just sick of the roles, the interactions, the meaningless conversations, 20 year olds, &c &c

i just want to do nothing

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Italo: He likes people similar to himself and does not trust those who are different. That's why a normal man is a true brother, a true citizen, a true patriot...

Marcello: A true fascist.

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

that amazing picture of the kids with twp (and the one with ronaldo) doesn't seem to show up anymore

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

i know! i'm not sure why, seem to have put it on an odd host maybe. will check my photobucket.

Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

hmmm i've got a Des Walker

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/DSCF8161.jpg

Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

nice

des walker is a sort of ultimate early-90s fitba player like nicky summerbee or gianluigi lentini

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

some random pop star

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/dec07005.jpg

Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

hey nv i don't really post here but i do lurk from time to time and i just wanted to let you know i think yr a good dude and much of this thread ~resonates~ and yeah keep on keeping on man that's about all.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

thanx dude :)

i've always enjoyed yr work on here too and you seem to be having a rough old year so that injunction to koko is mutual

Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

lmao all over again

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

notice Scholesy's "picking up the kids" form

Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Oh my goodness they're all so little. I mean the players.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ at yr girl looking totally unfazed by Wayne Rooney.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

twp

bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

feel very meditative and dreamy today, walked to work listening to all the sounds around me like it was music. gonna be fine as long as i don't have to talk to people or answer sensible question.

ah bollocks.

Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

can ask some nonsense questions if required

bill paxman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

i'll be fucked if i'm going to class today

ゑ (clouds), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.princeton.edu/~his291/Jpegs/Durer_Melancolia.JPG

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

at what point do you admit to yourself, without illusions, "i am pretty much a fucking loser"

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

been wondering that one myself lately

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

though i think my conclusion has been that if yr still thinking about the question yr probably not one

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

idk, i wonder if it is possible to fully-inhabit loserness, to cultivate it

my life cycle seems to be:

1. frantic burst of productivity -> 2. crash, burnout -> 3. video games/internet porn -> 4. refreshing same 3 websites for hours on end -> 5. suddenly freaking out at my shit state of living and -> back to 1.

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

this afternoon was suposed to be 1 but degenerated into 4 pretty quickly and now i'm going to drink wine and probably watch a probably shit game of fitba

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

was a shit game n all

bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

existential despair as expressed in the sullen form of marouane chamakh

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

to what d'you compare yourself when deciding losership or not tho

bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

anyone from teilhard de chardin to myself at better times

sweetántangó (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

idk, ideals have fucked me up

sweetántangó (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

i am completely bullshitting this paper that is already a day late, may plead insanity if he doesn't accept it

sweetántangó (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

what is it about?

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think procrastinating about papers has anything to do with being or not being a loser

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

de beauvoir and nietzsche

sweetántangó (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

i guess as a serial procrastinator i would say that tho

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

you just need to seize the day, the world is your oyster there's no reason you couldn't be out there doing what those other guys are doing

but i hate oysters dad

see that's what i'm fucking talking about, that's getting you nowhere that shit

bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

^ remember like it was yesterday

bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

1st answer = swallowing the void, there isn't an answer, at least we cn bounce this empty stupidity between ourselves and recognise our group bafflement

2nd answer = i thought the woman i was talking to tonight had a learning disability, kept fending her off until we got home and realised she was just hammered, am happy to not take the piss but am crestfell to not talk less stupid

Fortuné's Old Albion Englishness (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

short term leaning disability

bill paxman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 08:08 (eleven years ago) link

sober translation. i thought the woman was throwing herself at me and because i thought she was disabled it felt like i wd be taking bad advantage. but it wd have been a different kind of advantage taking if i'd sussed she was just pissed and since i was pissed too it mightn't have led very far but maybe farther than a brotherly walk home and goddamit why didn't i get a number?

Fortuné's Old Albion Englishness (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

feel bad all day every day

乒乓, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

the semester's done. went to the art museum w/ another classmate, looked at the exhibit of byzantine art and talked about shit. feels nice.

sweetántangó (clouds), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

yeah well, obviously beauty and truth aren't in any way mutually inexclusive. I just dunno which i prefer, or rather it's a circ-by-circ decision. Much rather my boss was beautiful, like.

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

when he says beauty is truth is he saying both are in the eye of the beholder or both are objective presences in the world? i think this is the knot Keats meant you to find un-untieable

aslo, is the flapjack the perfect symbol for the wholesome, flavourless tedium of unproductive work?

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 09:57 (eleven years ago) link

i am practising or embracing doing just enough to get by in all situations, i'm pretty comfortable with it

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

mdf byproducts are alright for termites but i like to think that we're a lil higher up the food chain tbph, p sure keats is with me on this one.

I figure he was arguing on universal scale, if he wasn't then he ought have said so and damn the rhymin scheme, this is why i distrust poetry as a method of conveyance, did he really mean that or did it just scan nicely with 'heraclitean' etc etc

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:05 (eleven years ago) link

flapjacks are like what i imagine goes in horses' nose-bags

if i was being dead honest i'd guess Keats was trying to talk about a universal truth but he overlooked the possibility that he was relativising truth instead of universalising beauty. aslo the fact that poetry is an untrustworthy medium for philosophy kinda tips the balance in favour of beauty over truth imo

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:08 (eleven years ago) link

poetry as medium that compromises truth is neatly the nub of the matter, but i'm not crediting him with meta on it tbph

All for truth from my philosophers, beauty from my poets, uncomfortable with such issues as may arise with any overlap, but unfortunately it happens

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:12 (eleven years ago) link

jeez if i'd remembered last night i have performance reviews to do today then maybe i wdn't feel so woozy and tired and bored this morning

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

darragh are you telling me what you want is, facts?

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link

german from my horse obv

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link

aslo is it me or is ILX a bit sleepy of late?

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

german from my whores wd be ok

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

xp if you could even trust facts these days it'd be something but i mean show me a fact, y'know? And don't give me any maths cos i maxed out on that stuff with ms quigley in 1995

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link

ilx is v quiet, i think we shipped a few out durin the last -gate, also footy crowd dwindling, those ppl otm obv

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

maths isn't facts is it, it's axiomatic

i was just bringing Hard Times into it cos iirc it's a book about truth and beauty being irreconcilable and Dickens thinks people should get off their backsides and join the circus or something

Performance Review is such a pointless exercise carried out in bad faith by people who don't understand what they're doing so it can be filed away somewehre and shown to an inspector who isn't going to look at it at some future date

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link

lately i've been questioning this whole "human beings" project i mean has anybody thought it thru? it doesn't seem to be going anywhere or doing anything important and it's making an awful lot of paperwork for somebody

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link

even culture mostly feels like a chore of late.

written language is ok, might be onto something there. everything feels like such pointless busy-work tho, why the hell can't people learn to sit still and shut up for a bit?

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno if you attempt any kind of objective review yr father gets v agitated, is my experience, and tbh this may well be one of those universal truth things we were looking for

Hard Times, the best thing about it is that he's giving you one big fuckoff clue in the title what yr english class is goin to be thru the entire term you get to listen to yr classmates (higher level english group b, ie aim for it but tbh we expect you lot to drop down at some stage lol) 'read' it aloud while you manufacture sleepy snot beside a radiator designed by gilliam's set guy and decorated by rob zombie.

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link

you wdn't live in a place furnished and built like an institutional space so how the hell do they expect you to work in one?

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

like "hi i'm gonna be spending 7 or 8 hours here today doing some stuff i'm not that invested in for some people who don't really care, cd you maybe make the place a little less ugly and untidy and eyeball-crushing please? kthx"

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link

true but then you wouldnt work at home so tbf tbf

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

the ugliness is like a place marker? to remind you you're at work?

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

also tbf it's better than doin such work for ppl who actually care

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

seriously this is madness, i've got nothing in common with these people, why am i here? i don't even know what i'm achieving. plax was on the money, i need to make rent.

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link

i kindof feel like exactly these things that are being used itt to describe these guys as dicks are exactly why they are good. lack of responsibility. bailing out on the debts they said they would pay. its cathartic and refreshing. the deal was not the deal i thought it was. the fine print was unreadable. i wanted the money but not the job. this is how i feel, bypassing the beaurocracies that displace every responsibility. don't phone in sick because its a busy shift. i don't fucking care. its like epic records. standing on the balcony. i wish i could do that. i still have to fucking wait tables every night. i'm glad somebody can. standing teetering on the edge. two fingers. tie the cord, kick the chair and you're dead. if i call in sick its my fucking coworkers that take the brunt. this is it, the production of innocence. my boss is my best friend. we're all victims. there's something to be said for it. the album is so good as well. all uncontainable id. no love. deep web. wrapped up so tight i can't breath. i need something that punctures it. interrupts these notions of responsibility that are predicated on this particular handshake. i hope i can pay my rent this month.

it bares repeating, it's like he pulled something direct out of my brain. i wanted the money but not the job.

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

the ugliness is in the eye of the beholder, who can say how each individual is to be inspired eh

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

oh i know

inspiration is supposed to be as natural as breathing eh? that's a liar of a word right there maybe. unless inspiration = sucking something up that's always been there

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

it's weird how ingrained the Protestant Work Ethic gets into people, wonder if that's nature or nurture. so many soul doctors tell you how important it is to your mental well-being to get into a nice comfy rut and keep yourself busy/distracted

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link

i'd kill to wake up in the morning with such a useful coping mechanism

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

even if i got my ideal job of snowboarding on the moon, after 8 years of doing the same thing every day i'd still be bored shitless.

ledge, Monday, 10 December 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link

well yeah you'd think. it doesn't seem to be the case for everybody. i guess you're only thinking of doing the same task whereas there's other things that cd make up yr working day, in theory.

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:12 (eleven years ago) link

varied conversations and interactions as such. personally don't go to work for that stuff.

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:14 (eleven years ago) link

in fact tbh i want soup and my bed, it's December and it's cold and it's miserable you savages why are we going thru the motions?

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

work network is down at the moment, internet is still up. surprisingly this has made little difference to my usual routine.

btw good flapjack is the bomb, hope you are not eating bad stodgy stuff, here is my mum's winning recipe:

1/2 pack butter (125g)
8 tbsp/120g demerara sugar
2 tbsp golden syrup (slips more easily off a warm wet spoon)
220g oats (1/3 jumbo, 2/3 normal)
melt butter in a pan, add sugar and syrup, stir well, add the oats, mix well, tip into a baking tray lined with baking parchment (24x33cm or thereabouts) & put in oven gas mk 4 for 20 mins. allow to cool but cut up while still slightly warm.

ledge, Monday, 10 December 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

that's nose-bag and butter imo, am not eating any flapjack bad or otherwise tbh

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

it's all about the golden syrup. course you could just eat it straight out of the tin.

ledge, Monday, 10 December 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

i used to like rice krispy cakes as a golden syrup transmitter but i don't think i have a v. sweet tooth nowadays

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

prob with sweet teeth is they fall out

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

booze and depressive neglect and the cost of dentists has similar effect

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

even by parental proxy ime, hurrah

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link

teeth are over-rated imo, just give me some soup

let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

too much gradgrinding in yr youth

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link

ilx has been relatively quiet for some time

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 10 December 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

eventually one must recognize that a new quiescent epoch has arrived, but who is going to bring fire and freshness, the streetfighter pyrotechnics, the new science, the leftfield plays and radical beats that get ilx moving again?

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 10 December 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

pat finn

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

paddy power.

quiet-era ilx fails to do its job, if i can't be pummeled into mental numbness by a constant stream of information then WHAT'S THE POINT.

Shane Richie Junior (Merdeyeux), Monday, 10 December 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

or at least lols

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

I don't research Keatsian arcana anymore; instead, I am trying to learn the silent physical rhymes and looking-glass puns of sign language. "Stars," for example, are inverted "socks." "Number" is a dancing "more." "Thank you" is just a touch away from "good." "Sorry" is "please" closed up and hiding. Never, of course, has my research seemed more essential.

This http://chronicle.com/article/Dream-Map-to-a-Mind-Seized/135966/ is real good

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link

I had an enormous crisis last weekend, cold blast of reality terror – oh god how am I living my life, I have chosen a diseased doubled path that leads to total fear-ridden stasis, stoic rejection of the goods of life, refusal of delight, forgetting my old friends, denying affection, slow financial slide through idleness and reserve, no idea of what could make me happier, crippled by duty, doubt, guilt over hurtful mistakes, no imaginable satisfied death. It all had that high, excited shock quality that early stages of grief can have.

Thought about checking in on Blue Saturday, but suspected ilxing not a way forward on this one.

Anyway, I shook things up and ran around and saw people and I think I know what I have to do for a while.

woof, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

Happy Birthday and i hope yr plans come good.

I'm booked in for detox in January so i figure i'm kicking wildly against the pricks for a last few stupid weeks.

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

exciting linguistic throwbacks i have enjoyed this week:

student on the bus describing a presumably fellow student as "half-caste"

dude in my office just describing a non-skinny woman as "jolly"

it's good to be back in the 70s, feels Christmas-y

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

ilx sending me back twards rw devils advocate t'day, i thought i'd grown out of it tbh

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

felt that one coming but ctfo dude

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but deems 'half caste' was a marketing term used by slave traders, it's just about the most intrinsically racist term imaginable

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

A teacher referred to me as 'half-caste' when i was in primary school, he thought he was being polite. So did I!

pandemic, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link

it wouldn't have throwed me quite so much if it was a person of a certain age but this kid looked 20 at most

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

student was a slave trader, fact. i bet every other word they used that day was 100% thought through, with 100% etymological awareness etc.

And maybe yon fat one is just jolly, y'know

look, yeah, i know, ok? but still, too, ok, yknow? People, life, existence, starbucks, pandemic's teacher, we should all do better and try harder and think awesomer and context and student maybe didnt know he was gonna get ilx'd about it later and probly feeds stray cats and gives to charity etc standard dmac counterpush yadda yadda

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think i was being really hectoring when i noted the guy's use of language, it was more one of those "where the hell did that come from?" observations

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

no man SHAME ON YOU

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

student was a slave trader, fact. i bet every other word they used that day was 100% thought through, with 100% etymological awareness etc.

half-caste is the sort of word where nobody remotely aware of its undisputed, unambiguous meaning would need to spend a single moment considering its offensiveness

so this kid is more than likely entirely ignorant of all this, but it is interesting and kinda dispiriting when people can get to the age of majority in the uk while being unaware of this stuff

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

yr knowledge obv greater than mine, we were prob learning about newgrange agus an mo connioloch instead so by all means take the proverbial pinch of salt, idk

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link

idk if i would expect many people in ireland to know the term, but then it isn't full of the descendants of people it conquered, enslaved and categorized according to racial purity

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

well, there's the fuckin dubs but you're right

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

Just be thankful they didn't say Quadroon.

ledge, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

you wish dom

although it still isn't proportional, at least there are quite a few black people at cambridge. first gf was a quarter black, in fact. when i told my peers this they started referring to her as 'the quadroon' ;_;

― Just got offed, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:35 (4 years ago)

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

o_O doesn't cut it really

ledge, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

i read in fanon or somewhere that the classification system in colonial guadeloupe and martinique classified people with up to something like 1/128th black ancestry

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

As it eerily often happens with the Beta Band, this song reflects something I've gone through nearly perfectly despite confusing lyrics. You date a girl, she jokes about how you'll never stay together. Then, much later, she disappears from your life for some spaced reason, and you try to remember it fondly by thinking of the jokes but all that really does is hurt ya more, or make you want to hurt yourself. And the fuel to harm yourself with your memories is all the little jokes that hurt so badly in retrospect.

The last bit, I assume, is representative of your overworking mind, just repeating unknown questions.

A fat, shit, jittery fraud of a messageboard poster (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 December 2012 03:48 (eleven years ago) link

http://simpleweb.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/4pillar01.png

I don't know what you're gonna do,
I don't know where you're gonna go
I don't know who you want to see,
I don't know who you want to be
I don't know why I want to know,
I don't know why you didn't show
I don't know why I didn't see,
I don't know why I didn't leave

A fat, shit, jittery fraud of a messageboard poster (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 December 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

I' th' isle of Britain, long since famous grown
For breeding the best cunts in Christendom,
There reigns, and oh! long may he reign and thrive,
The easiest King and best-bred man alive.
Him no ambition moves to get renown
Like the French fool, that wanders up and down
Starving his people, hazarding his crown.
Peace is his aim, his gentleness is such,
And love he loves, for he loves fucking much.
---Nor are his high desires above his strength:
His scepter and his prick are of a length;
And she may sway the one who plays with th' other,
And make him little wiser than his brother.
Poor prince! thy prick, like thy buffoons at Court,
Will govern thee because it makes thee sport.
'Tis sure the sauciest prick that e'er did swive,
The proudest, peremptoriest prick alive.
Though safety, law, religion, life lay on 't,
'Twould break through all to make its way to cunt.
Restless he rolls about from whore to whore,
A merry monarch, scandalous and poor.
---To Carwell, the most dear of all his dears,
The best relief of his declining years,
Oft he bewails his fortune, and her fate:
To love so well, and be beloved so late.
For though in her he settles well his tarse,
Yet his dull, graceless ballocks hang an arse.
This you'd believe, had I but time to tell ye
The pains it costs to poor, laborious Nelly,
Whilst she employs hands, fingers, mouth, and thighs,
Ere she can raise the member she enjoys.
---All monarchs I hate, and the thrones they sit on,
---From the hector of France to the cully of Britain.

A fat, shit, jittery fraud of a messageboard poster (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 December 2012 03:58 (eleven years ago) link

Shakey Noodle this morning on account of swallowing six or seven little parcels of duloxetine instead of the one i was sposed to, plus hangover i suppose, i don't know if this is a pleasant kind of high or not, i think it might be, i checked last night to see if i'd poisoned myself but likely not, which is a good thing i guess, quite blithe and unconcerned when i was in the process, looking for an excuse maybe, really thought i was past this.

nothing a couple of drinks won't put right.

A fat, shit, jittery fraud of a messageboard poster (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link

you could have fuckin said

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

ah i didnae want any fuss

A fat, shit, jittery fraud of a messageboard poster (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link

i wouldnt have fussed but i've have borrowed a tenner

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

that's the spirit

A fat, shit, jittery fraud of a messageboard poster (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

this fuckin board hasnt even got a heaney thread i mean chrisht

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link

i have negative dollars

fuck me

clouds, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

quality overheard conversation from the smoking shelter at work: three teenage girls discussing which Hull FC players they wanted to shag and trying to work out what a strap-on is - they thought it was a ball-gag i think

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 December 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

lol excellent

hi noodle

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 21 December 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

hi E :D

it's Mad Friday, hooray!

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 December 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

our entire organization is on a competition to sneak out of the building and off to the pub/home without anybody noticing

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

pffft, who cares who notices we are having rubberband target contests

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Friday, 21 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

Jews, Pagans, Christians, Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, Hindu whatever the hell I LOVE ALL YOU GUYS MERRY MOTHERFUCKIN CHRISTMAS

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

blasting ethan's merry christmas mix from a few years back, filling the fridge with unnecessary crap i just bought in aldi, waiting for the kids to come round so we can veg in front of the TV, holidays is a pretty sweet deal imo

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

best wishes to you and yours, dear noodle vague.

estela, Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

Happy Christmas, NV!

Fizzles, Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

Happy Xmas NV! I think its going to be a quiet xmas for me, i went out last night and came back home hating the human race (young wan robbed someones coat and then went beserk when bouncers asked her to give it back, gf tried to play peacemaker before i dragged her away from it then some asshole swiped my carry-out when i was chatting to someone outside while waiting for a taxi)

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

last night was pretty savage :(

got drunk enough not to care, but now i'm gonna get into blissful sober slothery

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ll4Ei.jpg

merry xmas noodle and junior noodles

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

Jews, Pagans, Christians, Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, Hindu whatever the hell I LOVE ALL YOU GUYS MERRY MOTHERFUCKIN CHRISTMAS

― Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:13 (1 hour ago)

i str8 trolling
ii fuck those rubes
iii n/a
iv will ye be having a baileys now
v<3 to the lamaists only
vi <3 diwali for facilitating ~winterval~

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

i will likely be alone this xmas which is fine

tell the kids it's 卵 (clouds), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

oh wait i missed out atheists

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsk921i6c31qf1gfe.gif

‘Horrible as sexual abuse no doubt was, the damage was arguably less than the long-term psychological damage inflicted by bringing the child up Catholic in the first place.’

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

wd have reckoned the lamaists as too authoritarian for you nakh

tell the kids it's 卵 (clouds), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

ikr, what can i say, the harsh mongolian strain of lamaism seems weirdly appealing right now

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

After the capture of Khovd, Ja Lama inflicted savage reprisal against the Chinese military prisoners and civilian population. His acts of cruelty included slaughtering most of the Chinese troops he captured. It was rumored that Ja Lama stabbed the prisoners in the chest with a knife and tore their hearts out with his left hand. He then laid the hearts together with parts of the brain and some entrails in skull bowls so as to offer them up as bali sacrifices to the Tibetan terror gods and hung on the walls of his yurt the peeled skins of his enemies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja_Lama

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

Ja Lama put out some excellent sides on Blood and Fire in the 80s iirc

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

anyhoo religiosity be damned i just wanted to offer an all-inclusive let's have it winterval hug-snog to ilxors everywhere

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

how else would one decorate a yurt

back in judy's tenuta (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

in any event, happy holidays to you and yours nv. may your yurt never be skinless.

packt like phoebe cates's dad in a chimney (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

amen, namaste to all

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

xmaste

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link

Weather Alert
West to Southwest winds will reach speeds of 50 to 60 km/hr with gusts of 80 to 100km/hr acorss coastal counties of Connacht and Ulster tonight.

the house is hopping and the bin lorry just blew over shure it's proper weather now

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

not having a great time of it atm tbh

tell the kids it's 卵 (clouds), Sunday, 23 December 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

<3 u family i really do but deciding to spend three weeks with you in nowheresville maybe wasn't the best idea.

Shane Richie Junior (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

it's 24 hr fifa with the lads here, breaks for sandwiches and opening another box of sweets.

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

clouds i noticed yr facebook update earlier :(

don't really know what to say but hang in there, if you wanna chat then drop me a message, this too will pass...i dunno, but if good wishes cd make anything better i'm sure a lot of people here are sending them your way

Captain Humberbantz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

:) thanks

i'll be fine. phil is leaving tonight for a week, no one else around to hang w/. i plan on getting high and listening to feldman all day. mb we should do a groupchatz or something?

tell the kids it's 卵 (clouds), Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

last night i decided that the key to not drinking was to be okay with being alone and sad. and i didn't drink. and i had heart-breaking dreams all night. and i'm awake and i'm still rattling. and sobriety is for shit, i'm sure, and i'm forcing myself to do it for anybody else but me.

gonna fast and play games and renounce myself to hermitude.

soma dude (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 January 2013 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

gonna make 2013 the year of misplaced asceticism.

soma dude (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 January 2013 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

my periods of eremitic hebetude always need to be accompanied by a vast-ish task - reading Gibbon, Football Manager sounds like a good call (thinking of getting it myself - doesn't quite square with "writing novel" & "learn German in terms of spare time but w/e). I just go into hibernation, abjure drink, become a completely different person effectively. it's weird, but good luck.

Fizzles, Sunday, 6 January 2013 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

i am pretty much sat here wrestling myself into not going on a huge bender today. not sure that it won't happen, i still have a little Jesuitic caveat that says it's okay to drink before i start detox, so i have a couple of weeks left to do what i want. but i don't suppose i do want, otherwise why would i be going into a detox programme? on the other hand, like i say, i want drink and low company and the sight at least of other people and the sight at least of women, and if i didn't have to try to be a person that half of me doesn't want to be then i'd just drink and to hell with it

and Football Manager is a great distraction but yes i have a pile of reading and writing and learning about music and photography and creative endeavour i shd be doing instead even tho i cd argue like the best sophist that playing a computer game is just as worthwhile and lasting a creative endeavour

becoming a different person feels like the only viable way to not make the bad decisions i make now but i'm scared the different person i'd become wd just be deader and lonelier and more statue than person

and god i want to be in a pub with a drink in my hand and rolling up a cig

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 January 2013 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

xxx-post to nv. you probably wouldn't be any happier had you drank. you'd probably only have delayed all those negative feelings until the next day that you were sober. it's better that at least some of those negative feelings are over, now.

baby steps. can i at least do a load of laundry before i drink? yes! can i at least wash half those dishes before i drink? maybe! and then, your mind becomes clearer as you go. (i never take my own advice, though).

boy_slayer, Sunday, 6 January 2013 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

thanks :) it's true, i've been tidying up a lot the last few days in crazy over-compensation.

thing is i don't just drink to get away from somewhere, i drink to go somewhere. a lot of psych mumbo about addictions conveniently overlook those possibilities.

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 January 2013 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

thing is i don't just drink to get away from somewhere, i drink to go somewhere.

oh, my god. i have never been able to say that so succinctly. damn, there really is no higher high. it's easy to just bring up exercise, sex, etc. but, i really don't know. i sometimes just think that, well, having my life entirely organized - being completely in control of everything - would be a pretty good high, and alcohol only inhibits achieving that. but, urgh, i guess it just takes time. a pretty long time, to begin to actually live again without the booze. i also don't consider living with booze actually living; i just call it scraping by (maybe some people can handle it, but a lot of us really cannot).

boy_slayer, Sunday, 6 January 2013 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

no you're quite right, and when you're consistently telling yourself something has to change then that's a pretty good sign that something has to change.

even the half-glass of wine i've got in the kitchen from cooking is starting to sing to me tho lol

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 January 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

what is it singing

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 6 January 2013 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

somewhere between 1930s movie seductive belly-dancer music and Kaa's song out of Jungle Book

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 January 2013 12:59 (eleven years ago) link

i decided that the key to not drinking was to be okay with being alone and sad.

Maybe the most important thing ever said in this thread btw.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Sunday, 6 January 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

hi nv

I've given up cm, but i'm sticking with the drink, we all find our own balances. I'm gonna learn c# instead, if i have to be up until 4am every night let's see if i can't at least use it to make something a little more utilisable than a midfield of kaka diego davies biscan (or, i'm hoping, ilx posts). Not for a second thinking it'll be as good, or anything, just more useful. Even my little brother stopped being impressed with my cm4 prowess in 2008 ffs.

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 January 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

how do u accomodate kaká and diego ribas in the same midfield

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 6 January 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

p sure the game you own just ended up gaming u

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 6 January 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

had a fucking bike accident. ugh.

silver pozole (clouds), Sunday, 6 January 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that looked rough

no concussion etc i trust?

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 6 January 2013 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

don't think so. the young couple that helped me said i was repeating things but tbf i was pretty frazzled

silver pozole (clouds), Sunday, 6 January 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

hope you're ok c

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 January 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

'string quartet 1, transfigured night, string quartet 2, chamber concerto.....'

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 6 January 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

and cosigned xp

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 6 January 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

thanks y'all.

no chamber symphonies?

silver pozole (clouds), Monday, 7 January 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

C are you ok?

went and had drinks. have had less drinks, feels like a score draw

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 January 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

dude can at least remember the difference between a beautiful mountain and a merely ordinary one, suggesting that his pavement has induced fewer neurological symptoms than my licquor

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 7 January 2013 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

the "fountain/mountain" gag in Pale Fire is the best and truest sick joke in literature imo

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 January 2013 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

in lieu of extended navel-gazing today i think i'll just posit : i suck. everything else sucks. not you, Football Manager.

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 January 2013 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

you've got a potential rating of 187 but your scout rating's at 56% and you're never a fullback, son

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Monday, 7 January 2013 10:26 (eleven years ago) link

dude i never look at the hidden attributes, it's a maxim for life

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 January 2013 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

deep down u know it's why the tories keep winning tho, right

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Monday, 7 January 2013 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

the tories keep winning cos a lot of people are tories, makes it difficult not to be a misanthrope tbh

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 January 2013 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

a true democrat would accept that shit and question their own position imo.

Anyway, here's a pnvmic i should be working, laters

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Monday, 7 January 2013 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

it's true, as a democrat i recognise humanity doesn't wanna be saved and my response is mostly to gtf out of dodge

Manhattan Transfer Window (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 January 2013 10:51 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNuUgbUzM8U

REASONS TO BE ALIVE IN 2013

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 January 2013 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

at least you ain't clusterfucking

my dad's 60th today, taking him to the football

imago, Saturday, 12 January 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

watchin space

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

i've had a pretty positive week but i need this rehab thing to hurry up

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 January 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

watch space

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

Hannah is in charge of the TV she's got pretty poor taste tbh

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

we won at home! what the fuck

imago, Saturday, 12 January 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

dont give em any space

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

sweet DJ Fresh track, my selectively-culturedness meant that I only heard 'Hot Right Now' last week, o if only it was anyone but Rita Ora on it.

What else is good?

Bill Goldberg Variations (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 12 January 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

today:

hungover. head-hurty. doctor at my medical told me rehab was gonna last 2 weeks, not 1. had to bollock a dude at work - who deserved it, but i don't live for bollocking people. went for driving test. test cancelled due to bad weather. have had better days. am blithely optimistic due to hangover.

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 January 2013 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

ooh and in answer to Merdeyeux i don't know tbh, don't especially rate Fresh's drum and bass stuff, i just like "Gold Dust" and the "Hot Right Now" mix, they almost feel like out-of-nowhere bangers of mutant dubstep-d'n'b happy accidence

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 January 2013 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

plucked up courage to ask about training, development or any type of progression plan. Howls of derision.

lemmy's rabbles (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 January 2013 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

what do you expect? a supportive employer? we're living in feral end times man, you should be happy to work for nothing

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 January 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

i'm public sector, IT WASNT MEANT TO BE THIS WAY

lemmy's rabbles (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 January 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlRvE9dKWQc

you probly can't see but i'm posting the video of the popular High School Musical tune "We're All in This Together" as part of my ongoing efforts to make it a "lol recession" meme

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 January 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

i'd, if i could, post sunday bloody sunday to mark another croke park massacre

lemmy's rabbles (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 January 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

y'go along real cosy and peaceable like, trying to live within yr duties and obligations, and then some mornings "fuck this" comes welling up inside like Old Faithful

not sold on a brighter tomorrow

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 07:33 (eleven years ago) link

ugh and the older i get the odds of meeting women my own age who are beautiful from the inside out get longer and longer

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 08:52 (eleven years ago) link

12 consecutive days present and mostly correct at work tho gotta take pride in something

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 08:55 (eleven years ago) link

Fair play

btw brighter tomorrow is a good bet post solstice, hie thee to a bookie

lemmy's rabbles (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 09:05 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know if "more hours of daylight" necessarily tallies with "brighter" even in the strict meteorologico-luminescent sense.

you jelly like bitter lemon (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 09:27 (eleven years ago) link

Well there's just no fuckin talkin to some ppl i reckon

lemmy's rabbles (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

haha what was that Richard Burton thing about belligerence?

you jelly like bitter lemon (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

You've a fuckin cheek referencing national stereotypes so soon after moaningabout the weather

lemmy's rabbles (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

it wasnae the weather i was moaning about.

let's just assume my grumpiness is my brain trying to convince me to have a skinful, it's usually the case.

you jelly like bitter lemon (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:55 (eleven years ago) link

Skinful or case, make up yer mind.

True story, my original rejoinder was gonna include the c word but fuckit the yanks sb you for that shit iirc. clueless cunts.

lemmy's rabbles (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

http://hormonenegative.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/nature-time-and-patience.html

we had the same fortune cookie :)

i really wanted to drink today. i didn't know what else to do, felt so empty and sad and planless. i didn't get drunk. yay victory. i don't feel much happier but i'm sober and no poorer.

8 days til detox. feel mostly zombie-esque.

pre-emptively sorry to everybody i've ever been a cunt to for no good reason. i dunno, maybe a bit of friction between people is okay. but save it for a good reason i guess.

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

I forgive u

bully4u.co.uk (darraghmac), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

thx, go in peace my son

why's my head so heavy? why do i wanna sleep 15 hours a day? not unhappy, just hardly here, irked but amused at moral/aesthetic realists but don't wanna start a war want to give them the lotus breakfast so's they can let go the big words that make us all so listy-statisty

the snow and ice all gone feels like the shackles off my ankles and not wearing crunch-boots is a simple joy in itself

my head's a jalopy ha challopy jalopy

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 January 2013 09:22 (eleven years ago) link

jayz i need a worker-disguise today whoops

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 January 2013 09:22 (eleven years ago) link

A strange delusion possesses the working classes of the nations where capitalist civilization holds its sway. This delusion drags in its train the individual and social woes which for two centuries have tortured sad humanity. This delusion is the love of work, the furious passion for work, pushed even to the exhaustion of the vital force of the individual and his progeny. Instead of opposing this mental aberration, the priests, the economists and the moralists have cast a sacred halo over work. Blind and finite men, they have wished to be wiser than their God; weak and contemptible men, they have presumed to rehabilitate what their God had cursed. I, who do not profess to be a Christian, an economist or a moralist, I appeal from their judgement to that of their God; from the preachings of their religious, economics or free thought ethics, to the frightful consequences of work in capitalist society.

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:30 (eleven years ago) link

- Bob Marley

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

In reality, when we curse death we only fear ourselves: The
severity of our will is what makes us tremble. We lie to ourselves
when we dream of escaping the movement of luxurious exuberance
of which we are only the most intense form. Or perhaps we
only lie to ourselves in the beginning the better to experience
the severity of this will afterward, carrying it to the rigorous
extreme of consciousness.

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

Nietzsche? Crazy moustache, crazy guy

Neil S, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

You're not fooling anyone with any of this you big tory you

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:03 (eleven years ago) link

no Nietzsche - Paul Lafargue, then Georges Bataille.

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:09 (eleven years ago) link

aha thanks. I'm sure Google could have told me that, always fun to play guess the philosopher tho!

Neil S, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:12 (eleven years ago) link

tbf Bataille was a huge Nietzsche fan

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

i will miss the blue-skyed clarity of hangovers, i will miss the tenuous telepathy of mornings like this where i can see something just inside everybody i pass, even tho if i have to engage one-to-one there's this fog like my glasses are inch-thick with grime and the words come out a little bit out of sync like on digital TV sometime.

i was afraid if i stopped drinking i'd become everything i despise and while i was concentrating on that it happened anyway, on the sly like.

i will miss my underbelly brothers and sisters and morning boozers and pubs nobody who cares what anybody thinks about them wd ever visit, i will miss being wobbly and enlightened at 3 in the afternoon in the not quite warm enough windshine of a beer terrace next the main road. i will miss polite chit-chat that turns into the threat of a fist-fight at random. i will miss rolling my own.

i'll miss this pitiful bullshit artist manning the controls.

but maybe not that much.

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:43 (eleven years ago) link

Re the fistfight thing, surely there's parts of town everywhere where that threat exists sober

Cmere where did i mention my dislike of house of cards, its not on the thread but i dont want to repeat self

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

House of Cards? that TV programme? i dunno man

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

Lack of clarity hittin both of us :(

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

that can of Monster i drunk on the way to work is wearing off :\

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

iirc Hitchcock is supposed to be rub but tbh Helen Mirren on the poster is reminding me i used to have a libido

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

It looks dreadful, more fanfic from working title a la the queen.

But mirren is yes

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

she keeps following me around on the sides of buses

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:51 (eleven years ago) link

There's one for the therapist

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

it's kinda like reverse Vertigo

best video btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wj8Yxa309E

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

I know i updated phones but pls be srs

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 12:58 (eleven years ago) link

We must not be misunderstood. By the man in the moon we do not mean any public tavern, or gin-palace, displaying that singular sign. The last inn of that name known to us in London stands in a narrow passage of that fashionable promenade called Regent Street, close to Piccadilly. Nor do we intend by the man in the moon the silvery individual who pays the election expenses, so long as the elector votes his ticket. Neither do we mean the mooney, or mad fellow who is too fond of the cup which cheers and then inebriates; nor even one who goes mooning round the world without a plan or purpose. No; if we are not too scientific, we are too straightforward to be allured by any such false lights as these. By the man in the moon we mean none other than that illustrious personage, whose shining countenance may be beheld many a night, clouds and fogs permitting, beaming good-naturedly on the dark earth, and singing, in the language of a lyric bard,

"The moon is out to-night, love,
Meet me with a smile."

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSdRizGYb0

see you on the flipside kids

peace

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

february bearing heavy :(

imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

good luck nv, much love

groundhog-enorme-toute-grosse-253x300.jpg (clouds), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

otw

ben foster five (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/8PVoBdQ.jpg

p appropriate i guess

乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

worried

imago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

I really hope you keep on NV and not get defeated, you are one of the best on here.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

^^^originally thought this was a representation of one's mood - some days you are -1, but...

imago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

sending you all my very best (& nonprescriptive) wishes, nv.

estela, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

yes, best wishes NV, hope you're doing OK

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

Jaysus there's the man

...to work on his autobiography, "kiddyfiddling as rome burns" (darraghmac), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

released early for good behaviour

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

I suspect overcrowding tbqh

...to work on his autobiography, "kiddyfiddling as rome burns" (darraghmac), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

i promised them i was less likely to pick up a washbasin and hoy it thru the window if they let me come home and play Footie Manager

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

Last time i did anything of the sort was as a result of football manager, true story

...to work on his autobiography, "kiddyfiddling as rome burns" (darraghmac), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

wb nv

polski smak (clouds), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

:D

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

i could stand the meds and the injections and the limited stuff to do and the food was fine and my fellow patients were fine people but 2 weeks away from FM was gross torture, i have literally been working out formations and strategy in my head for the last week

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

wb nv

^

fizzles tics (Fizzles), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

oh and i missed Al Green and Bartok and Feldman and i nearly put me foot thru the screen when Al got 1 second of acknowledgment on that BBC4 album bollocks the other night

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

and i've watched so much Time Team

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

and i have a post detox drug regime that wd give Johnny Thunders a run for his money

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

2 weeks away from FM was gross torture, i have literally been working out formations and strategy in my head for the last week

― drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:18 (21 minutes ago)

never played fm but i do this anyway

every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

welcome home, anyway

every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Man, if i'd never played fm i'd prob be married now. Game gets an unfair rap tbh

...to work on his autobiography, "kiddyfiddling as rome burns" (darraghmac), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

thought I'd left critical medication at work, gone into work, turns out I haven't. god life is laborious sometimes. srsly considering getting into fm on darragh's recommendation. I seem to be doing a decent job of not getting married as it is, but can't be too careful in these picked and pied times.

fizzles tics (Fizzles), Saturday, 16 February 2013 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

i've quit since new year tbh. sleeping instead. hasnt rly helped anything that i can see.

...to work on his autobiography, "kiddyfiddling as rome burns" (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2013 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

as the youngest member* of the ilf prolix crew i'd like to point out my somewhat perverse position on this fm/marriage venn

*aside from the terrifying, glorious wonder that is windsor davies

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Saturday, 16 February 2013 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

i'd like to point out your somewhat perverse position on most things but i'll be the model of restraint instead

...to work on his autobiography, "kiddyfiddling as rome burns" (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

age is a circle anyway, we are all as old as the universe is instantaneous

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Saturday, 16 February 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

gareth bale is a circle. everything is somewhat circular.

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Saturday, 16 February 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

not a blue saturday btw, just taking lazy breaks from writing my novel and gearing up for writers' circle (what else?) and theatre at the Barbican (we're sitting in not the circle but the UPPER circle - transcendence)

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Saturday, 16 February 2013 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

crying along to Glee on a sunny Sunday afternoon and fu world iud

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 February 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

Transcendence: a specifically European disease.

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 February 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

26 today fwiw and fuiud, didn't spend yesterday in your fair quarters NV as I'm not much of an away fan. expecting this to change soon

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Sunday, 17 February 2013 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

i got invited to the match but I'd already promised Han i'd take her swimming. it's the first time i've been swimming without a hangover in god knows how long, i think i made the right choice.

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 February 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

doesn't look like you'll be coming up for the fixture next season anyway

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 February 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

you'll have to visit our Fish Trail instead

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 February 2013 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

your insinuation is double-edged and I will not pursue it further. ty for the birthday shout tho :P

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Sunday, 17 February 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

i was thinking of City's upward trajectory not yr own steady mid-table hustle

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 February 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

hb imago

crimson hexagon sonned (clouds), Sunday, 17 February 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

happy birthday imago!

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 17 February 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

Ya hb

birmingham six, guildford four, mumford & sons (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 February 2013 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

sobriety appears to involve staying awake til 5am at the moment. ho hum. am coffeeing up.

doctor in the hospital reminded me i was obese. resisted urge to point out i was giving up alcohol and nicotine and maybe i'd let the diet slide for a couple of fucking weeks while i dealt with that. health pros - never fucking satisfied eh?

feel obese and tired and up and down like the proverbial bride's nightie.

graduate of the Suzanne Moore School of Apologies (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 09:28 (eleven years ago) link

5am isnt such a bad time as long as you dont need to think during the day

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 09:41 (eleven years ago) link

nah it makes me crankier, meaner, clumsier and more vulnerable to an attack of the stupids iirc.

graduate of the Suzanne Moore School of Apologies (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

agree that i am delightfully without thought tho.

graduate of the Suzanne Moore School of Apologies (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

Hmmm tbh idk could i survive without exhibiting that list of traits constantly

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 09:48 (eleven years ago) link

gonna be another day of reading Revolution of Everyday Life on the sly while i try to look busy, maybe pick the odd random fight on here.

graduate of the Suzanne Moore School of Apologies (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 09:55 (eleven years ago) link

was gonna read Getting Things Done but Vaneigem is loads funnier.

graduate of the Suzanne Moore School of Apologies (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 09:55 (eleven years ago) link

plus, y'know, layer on layer of meta-irony.

graduate of the Suzanne Moore School of Apologies (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 09:56 (eleven years ago) link

any good books on picking up chicks when you're obese and avoiding the pub, somebody let me know

graduate of the Suzanne Moore School of Apologies (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 09:56 (eleven years ago) link

does this sound mopey? i dunno, i'm laughing tbh

graduate of the Suzanne Moore School of Apologies (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 10:07 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooHSDg5kkw4

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 10:16 (eleven years ago) link

You could see what mary coughlan's doing with herself

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

really hope you mean the singer

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 10:54 (eleven years ago) link

Oh

seems like beggars can be choosers after all huh

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

i don't mess with no politicians

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 11:03 (eleven years ago) link

actually the list of careers and lifestyle choice i don't mess with is hilariously and unrealistically long.

aslo who am i kiddering?

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 11:04 (eleven years ago) link

Roahld dahl autobiography title

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

feel a bit shit and weepy today. still not sleeping properly, function thru a lot of the day, start nodding when i have to sit quietly and listen to something, go home ready for bed, hit this weird zombie mode where i just don't go to bed until gone 3.

can't bear to look at myself in the mirror. hate how i look, everything.

not drinking. no real desire either. meds or something inside me doing something right.

pathetic inability to come to terms with my own age.

bleak outside, bleak inside, ugly scruffy lump of

gonna carry on

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

perhaps you need to hit rock bottom, the league one of the soul, before reality can seem a treasure

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

Noodle <3

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

tbf if i was 15 again i cd just type "FML" and be done

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

Booze makes the moment endurable but does nothing for the moments that come after that. Sobriety, otoh, is all about the long game. Sure you don't like the way things are right now but there's a lot more nows ahead and they are going to be different. I don't know how to rewrite this sentiment in football manager-ese but someone else can surely step in.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Friday, 22 February 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

"every walk past a pub is a cup tie"

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

but really, i don't want a drink. which is a bit crap cos it leaves me here.

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Right, conscious of everything that's now. It's okay. It's a bit crap but tbh you did let it get that way, you can put it back in order in a little time.

Haha I'm a terrible counselor, I just talk to everyone like they're 6 and didn't clean their room. Sorry.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

it's fine. i might as well be 6 and the room needs cleaning.

i've been walking, at least to work. that's good.

i've genuinely felt great all week until today, something in my post-detox support group that niggled at me and then after i caught sight of myself in a bathroom mirror and had a good look and oh the horror

i was trying to walking meditate. i realised i am ass-backwards. i want to get into the world, want it to look realer, less flat. of course trad meditation is about recognising the impermanence. i feel little but.

i hear a lot of birds singing in the morning. they sound pretty awesome right now.

winter just won't fuck off, will it?

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

perhaps you need to hit rock bottom, the league one of the soul, before reality can seem a treasure

― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 14:52 (18 minutes ago)

this doesn't reflect how people actually react to adversity

Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

like really why would that be the case? how long does one have to spend looking at flies flitting about freshly laid dogshit before it takes the consistency of seraphim in paradisiac suspension

Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

I know. It was a crass analogy in reference to our respective football support. Perhaps Wolves will escape the drop anyway and we can forget this ever happened.

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

NV you've been magnificent regardless of the result, 18 months from now you won't be making these basic errors imo

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

sometimes i just try and badly describe the shape and colour of my angst because it's better than bumping my head up and down on the desk or being a drunken cock. so it's fine to make crass analogies.

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

...and yes, there is something dismal about the fetishisation of solace quantums amidst the moil - I merely meant that in some obtuse way, the wheel will turn and NV's mental Deano will steer his good ship Molineux to an acceptable oscillation

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

btw mirrors are a fuckin torture device if you looked at other people the way you do your reflection you'd turn killer overnight imo

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

Can't offer any particularly useful advice but can offer best wishes and free books. ILXmail me if you're interested in the latter.

Head Cheerleader, Homecoming Queen and part-time model (ShariVari), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

how long does one have to spend looking at flies flitting about freshly laid dogshit before it takes the consistency of seraphim in paradisiac suspension

― Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:22 (12 minutes ago)

someday you shall stand atop an Alp and all as Aether shall seem

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

the trouble with fitba metaphors is they become totalizing, the entire world just one extended fitba metaphor, a series of endlessly iterated rearguard actions at deepdale

Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

managing Port Vale on administration money atm and have put together one of the dourest FM teams of my life. 1 home win and 2 away draws so far. beautiful game.

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

i thought i might have imagined deepdale but no it exists and is the home of preston north end

Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

and a Football League museum or something iirc

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

Rochdale play at Spotland otoh, which would make a 7/10 Autechre album-title

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

^^clever little reverse-pass of a post that the defender just about intercepted

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.xojane.com/issues/how-not-to-be-a-dick-to-your-fat-friends

this bucked my ideas up a little

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

don't have time to read that but i imagine rule no. 1 should be:

"if you are 6'0" and 150lbs don't talk about how 'fat' you are in front of your 5'6" 200lb friend"

þjóðaratkvæðagreiðsla (clouds), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

WTF IS WRONG WITH BEING 5FT 6 AND 200lb YOU DICK

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

ah fuck

þjóðaratkvæðagreiðsla (clouds), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVqfBuinw7A

iceland blues

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 11:43 (eleven years ago) link

People who talk about revolution and class struggle without referring explicitly to everyday life, without understanding what is subversive about love and what is positive in the refusal of constraints, such people have corpses in their mouths.

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 February 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

it's pretty easy to account for what you've lost - positive and negative - and it's pretty hard to work out what you're gaining

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

feel like i shd wear a spacesuit or full plate to negotiate the world of sobriety

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

niggling rationalisation of outmoded boozery

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

Sup nv. Well dont sup, ykwim.

bbag bbag my nebby shot me down (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 February 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

i know. i'm pretty strong. i want my miracle transformation to a world where getting drunk seems like the least good idea ever. i know miracle transformations don't happen. i am digging sobriety in a way but it's still so lifeless.

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 February 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

Cant argue with that, have you tried fantasising about a lotto win?

bbag bbag my nebby shot me down (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 February 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

To argue that the reason you deserve rights under a humanist democratic system is because of genetics is a retreat into feudalist logic. It's the same as an aristocrat arguing that their rights and privileges were deserved because of their family blood-line and DNA. "Born this way" is antithetical to any democratic argument for rights rooted in a social capacity for understanding and transformation. It is astounding that the majority of people cannot comprehend that any "born this way" argument is a complete obliteration of their social agency. "I can't help it, so give me the same rights as you..." Fuck that. We shouldn't be asking to participate in the rights and privileges of those who have oppressed us. We should be trying to divest those groups of privileges. That is the best way to help ourselves and minimize the violence we enact on others.

http://www.sfbg.com/noise/2013/02/21/nite-trax-lost-mix-dj-sprinkles

<3 <3 <3

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

Sprinkles is awesome, that's a great interview

Neil S, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

was thinking just this morning, during a Today programme report on why people like getting drunk, which approached it from an angle of 'why bcos of chemicals in brane, people just think they enjoy it', what a pernicious influence materialism can be, especially when it is confused with or feeds into determinism. it's a grubby trump card played by people who are frightened of moral, spiritual or aesthetic arguments. Like 'taxpayer's money' in political discussion. I realise this isn't new, but i was reminded of it. last time i think i thought about it was on reading the introduction to 'guns germs and steel' by j diamnond, where he said 'one day all history will be scientific' i paraphrase, but not far off.

Fizzles, Friday, 1 March 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

didn't hear the report but that doesn't necessarily sound like a reductively materialist viewpoint. like the parable about a supercomputer running all of society on utilitarian grounds deciding to keep us dosed up to the eyeballs with happy pills, surely recognising that all happinesses are not equal even if they're ultimately all brain chemicals is a distinctly anti-material view?

ledge, Friday, 1 March 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sorry ledge, I'm not sure I understand, and that's absolutely not because your words aren't clear, but because i'm feeling a bit tired/hungover. the report felt reductively materialist, and I'm trying to turn your words back on it to consider whether that was the case or not, but my brain isn't up to it, it seems. I'll check myself into the knacker's yard.

Fizzles, Friday, 1 March 2013 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

maybe utilitarian or moral realist as much as materialist. i still believe in a materialism that allows for magic or soul - at least as metaphors. arguing that my subjective enjoyment isn't real is a lost cause in lots of ways, but there are political reasons why people want to demystify experience, and there are tired evolutionary biological arguments that always ignore the non-evolutionary modifications humans have made to their brains/lifestyles since we developed culture.

or in short the world is full of miserable ascetics and most of them are fascists of some stripe.

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

recognising that all happinesses are not equal even if they're ultimately all brain chemicals is a distinctly anti-material view?

possibly but not necessarily, i'm sure there are people out there who still think that they can build the perfect felicimeter and it's just a case of quantitative difference rather than qualitative.

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Quantitative e-zing

poll that whitey music pfunkboy (darraghmac), Friday, 1 March 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

can be a materialist & still believe in mind/soul if you accept the latter as "emergent" properties of highly complex material systems like the human nervous system

Euler, Friday, 1 March 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

let's not turn this into another consciousness c/d thread though eh

ledge, Friday, 1 March 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

c

Euler, Friday, 1 March 2013 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

I stay away from consciousness threads, prefer the existentialist ones like this

Euler, Friday, 1 March 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

that's why i'm happy to use "soul" as a materialist term without worrying about what it's made of in this sense, in my reading i think this is how James Hillman uses it

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

but to return to Fizzles initial point i guess "pleasure centres cause pleasure" is more or less tautological and has nothing to do with "how much pleasure is too much and shd we tax it?"

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

well, that was the other part of the story, yes. recognise that alcohol can be a blight, certainly don't think it *is* automatically a blight (think this was why the 'pleasure centre' approach gave me the heebie-jeebies) and shy like a startled foal from what always looks like 'the poor can't be trusted with their horrible vulgar destructive enjoyments'.

Fizzles, Friday, 1 March 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

of course it's about that. flat taxes punish the poor. sometimes for their own good. try engaging any MP or healthcare professional on the topic of "positive alternatives to intoxication" and then work out whether the blindness is voluntary or not

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

thinking this stuff thru the prism of the tri-weekly meetings i'm attending where we sit in a circle and remind each other why it's good to stay sober

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

yep. and nothing like the same thing, but i'm trying to be soberer as well, through a sort of animal sense of self-conservation kicking in. just find drinking is such a reset to 0 of things i'm trying to build against. in my head of course, but what isn't *dribbles into bib*

Fizzles, Friday, 1 March 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

i take 6 pills a day which are supposed to damp down any cravings i might get and they are singularly failing to work today.

ill-advised walk down memory lane of nightclubs i have known, loved and fallen over in has stoked the gibbering boozewant that's been gnawing at me since last Friday.

typing this out partly to try and exorcise the fucker.

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

how much do you feel the cravings are chemical/how much patterns of behaviour emotional/memory triggers?

I mean fucked if I know how to deal with fine spring days - it's almost a childhood trigger for all sorts of things (love, drink, hope even, god help us).

if this isn't helpful tell me stfu obv.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:03 (eleven years ago) link

Ive come around to the belief that wilted lettuce is a v important part of a toasted sandwich

poll that whitey music pfunkboy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

And hey, if i can change

poll that whitey music pfunkboy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

nah i think it's pure emotional/cognitive stuff. going into detox i met a bunch of people with full blown addiction, every day wake up til pass out drinkers, and it put my own patterns into perspective. not that i was "less bad" than them, but in the parlance i was a problem drinker and hadn't progressed to full-blown alcoholic. for a bunch of reasons i guess.

and what i'm craving isn't just alcohol and nicotine - god it is them tho too - but the pub, my blurry spinning Wonderland/escape route. and the sun's only just come out here, but yeah, it makes me want to drink. as does bad weather, hot weather, happiness, sadness, mediumness, emptiness, plenitude, you name it, i'll drink to it.

walking home Friday night a thought experiment came into my head - if I was presented with a stranger, and a gun, and if i shot that stranger right there and then i could drink with no consequences but the usual social/emotional ones for the rest of my life, wd i do it? and my nerves and brain was straining "yeah, this is horrible but yeah i feel like i could do that, feel like i'd have to do that". and then suddenly it occured to me that the victim - that was me too. i was unwittingly writing the allegory of my own life choices.

and still i feel like i am 2 children away from swan-diving back into my escape tunnel.

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

and i'm just rational enough to know that 4 weeks sober is nothing. not a dent, not a scratch on my soul. i know nothing will get better for months, years, ever, whatever. i have to keep rationalising the sense of this decision.

and i hate rationalising and i hate sense.

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

What other consequences apart from the social/emotional ones? Health?

poll that whitey music pfunkboy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

4 weeks sober is a sea change stfu btw

poll that whitey music pfunkboy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

financial mainly i guess. if i could "afford" to drink, whatever the other costs. finance being that hard, unnegotiable limit.

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm not sure yr unwitting allegorisin so much as considering a hitman career then tbf

poll that whitey music pfunkboy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

Like crowds, drugs, and love, alcohol can befuddle the most lucid mind. Alcohol turns the concrete wall of isolation into a paper screen which the actors can tear according to their fancy, for it arranges everything on the stage of an intimate theatre. A generous illusion, and thus still more deadly.

i guess i've used this Vaneigem quote before but there it was, waiting to say hello while i browsed

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

Was RV a boozer? Was he talking there about Guy D's drinking, do you think?

Tim, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know. i've always thought of Vaneigem as the party guy of those two but that cd easily be an effect of writing styles. that quote cd be self-referential too, anybody who's loved booze too long and too well can recognise the seduction he describes.

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

(fending off my own little swim in denial with curry and scones, not necessarily in that order)

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

Hopefully not together tho

i don't have to be fair, i'm *right* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

not sober, no

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

4 weeks sober is a sea change stfu btw

this, anyway, cos it's about... fucking gotta stop shriving my soul on ilx... but it's about the movement away from something wch is damaging you. it can be expected to be hard work, and you can expect not to succeed sometimes, or to backslide, but knowing that you are moving away from something and idk caring for yourself cos you deserve it etc, feels like an important thing to focus on.

<\psychobabble>

cosign on the whole pub thing tho.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

i feel less irritable mostly but then i worry that denying irritation or anger or sarcasm is denying part of human experience

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 March 2013 13:00 (eleven years ago) link

Ha

i don't have to be fair, i'm *right* (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2013 13:09 (eleven years ago) link

wilson phillips otm tho

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 9 March 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i know :|

JESUS I WANT A DRINK

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 March 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

i think abt wilson philips more than anyone not living in 1991 should

mimosa pudica (clouds), Saturday, 9 March 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

it's fine to think about Wilson Philips imo, i don't think i want to go back to the early 90s tho unless i get to take foreknowledge with me

a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 March 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

i'd probably just make the same mistakes all over

mimosa pudica (clouds), Saturday, 9 March 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

Q. is Abba's "Slipping Through My Fingers" the most heartbreaking song ever written?

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 March 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

heartbroken maybe. just completely flat out destroyed by what parenthood is.

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 March 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

it's amazing how fucking awful i can feel without doing a single thing all day

mimosa pudica (clouds), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

that's not amazing; it's natural imo

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 01:36 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i don't know about natural but i know there are deep currents that do more to affect my mood than the mundane stuff on the surface. maybe doing nothing just makes that more powerful cos there's nothing to counter-balance them.

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 07:37 (eleven years ago) link

The Dogon say their astronomical knowledge was given to them by the Nommos, amphibious beings sent to Earth from Sirius for the benefit of mankind. The name comes from a Dogon word meaning 'to make one drink', and the Nommos are also called 'Masters of the Water', the 'Monitors', and the 'Teachers'. According to Dogon mythology, Nommo was the first living being created by Amma, the sky god and creator of the universe. He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. [This is a metaphor for our original 12-strand DNA. Our present physical DNA contains 2 strands which hold the genetic codes for our physical evolvement.]

silly word combination (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

haven't even got the strength to tell door-to-door charity collector to fuck off. feel more tired and zombified sober than i ever used to feel drunk.

poking pocong (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 March 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

V early days man.

mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 18 March 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

sorry for gnawing the same bone. typing helps me keep shit at arms' length.

i just realised, what i'm craving so badly is the big warm hug of intoxication. in the absence of other hugs, it's the dreamiest swoon possible. and it's very hard to go around all day not thinking about a thing, especially the thing that yr cellular biology is screaming for.

frying onions to make hot dogs to make myself not think about pubs and barlight and nicotine and alcohol and bliss.

oh god is it still 1992? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

Hey Noods I am thinking of you and sending telepathic non boozy hugs your way. What you're doing is important and impressive and thank you for sharing it here. That is all.

go to party leather (ENBB), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

NV you need to get some soft of latex hands and arms wired up to your PC so we can all takes turns in giving you cyber hugs (strictly nothing kinky, that's extra). Take care mister, rooting for you here!

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

This day has given the earth an entirely new aspect. The world would have gone to destruction The New Era Two Thousand Years Ago. had there not streamed forth from him who is now born a common blessing.

Rightly does he judge who recognises in this birth-day the beginning of life and of all the I powers of life; now is that time ended when men pitied themselves for being born.

From no other day does the individual or the community receive such benefit as from this natal day, full of blessing to all.

The Providence which rules over all has filled this man with such gifts for the salvation of the world as designate him as Saviour for us and for the coming generations; of wars he will make an end, and establish all things worthily.

By his appearing are the hopes of our forefathers fulfilled; not only has he surpassed the good deeds of earlier time, but it is impossible that one greater than he can ever appear.

The birth-day of God has brought to the world glad tidings that are bound up in him.

From his birth-day a new era begins.

Inscription in Asia Minor dedicated to Augustus Caesar, 9 BCE

Easter Humphreys (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 March 2013 11:45 (eleven years ago) link

sometimes i get sick of the sight of my own inner voice. maybe try to give it a rest.

Kontuszówka reverie (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Watched tree of life yday, v much inner voicing since tbh

mister borges (darraghmac), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

i've not seen it. i know what you mean tho.

Kontuszówka reverie (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

Oh you must, you must

mister borges (darraghmac), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

My inner voice is a right dick

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 March 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

Therapist telling me I wouldn't talk to my friends like that so I didn't have to talk to myself like that was a O_O revelation. I was 36 at the time.

Another turning point, a stork fuck in the road (ledge), Friday, 22 March 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

i wuz thinking of my inner voice as manifested on ILX tbh :p

Kontuszówka reverie (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 March 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

my ilx inner voice more of a bore than a dick, harder to fix. oh wait is that me being a dick to myself? shit.

Another turning point, a stork fuck in the road (ledge), Friday, 22 March 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

Think the point of my inner voice is to be the resource of considerations/sounding board/avenues i dont get from friends, ms mac, family. ilx probably closest alright, in the absence of idk god

mister borges (darraghmac), Friday, 22 March 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WXYjm74WFI

parcheesi Wotsits (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 March 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

Is this the place to check in when you're bored and lonely and a little bit drunk? Family are on holiday for the weekend and my mates are all out at some Gilles Peterson thing tonight which I missed all the tickets for. So here I am on Easter Sunday with a bottle of vodka and Tusk on cd. I could have sworn it wasn't meant to be like this

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 31 March 2013 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, Sundays are bad enough at the best of times but the bank holiday just adds an extra layer of numbness to the air. i dunno if anything was meant to be like this but you keep plodding thru cos the alternative sucks, maybe skip "Walk a Thin Line" or something, we'll all hang in there together

parcheesi Wotsits (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 March 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMRX6Wnvn-U

c21m50nm3x1c4n (wins), Sunday, 31 March 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

checking in

乒乓, Sunday, 31 March 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

the bank holiday just adds an extra layer of numbness to the air

^^^ YES, and still another day of this to go. I should be taking this 4 day weekend and using it to get on with some stuff but, pffft fuggedaboutit

FINNISH HIM! Tuomas wins... (snoball), Sunday, 31 March 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

thx for beautiful tunes guys.

counting positives: got a bunch of washing done, cooked myself actual food, kept Hannah's goldfish alive, will be with the kids again in 2 days time.

thinking hard about why i've fucked up so much of my life is the first step to not making the same fuck-ups in future, i guess. or maybe in the big scheme of things fucking-up is in the eye of the up-fucker.

parcheesi Wotsits (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2013 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^
the last part of your sentence- a zen fortune cookie

ex-ex-gay (Bob Six), Monday, 1 April 2013 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

Gluck all

mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 1 April 2013 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

reflecting on my squandered double-length weekend, the unknown quantity of my new boss-to-be who starts tomorrow, my fear of other people or is it just myself, possible causes of my current stomach cramps

best wishes NV and other blue bank holidayers

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 1 April 2013 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

i've wasted a whole week if it's any consolation :)
and i'm gonna spend most of this one at mom and dad's :/

parcheesi Wotsits (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2013 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

Counting down the minutes till I can go back to bed tbh

Windsor Davies, Monday, 1 April 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

i'm on a washing tear today and yesterday, which only goes to show how much i needed to do. the house is like a little oven cos it's the only way to get stuff dry. i'll settle for a point at St Andrew's and a cheeky takeaway for tea tbh.

parcheesi Wotsits (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

Wolves are 1-0 up!

Des Fusils Pour Banter (ShariVari), Monday, 1 April 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

just rushed to the non-Prem thread to celebrate lol

parcheesi Wotsits (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

had a drink a couple of weeks ago but was too embarrassed to admit it. got it back under control i hope. problem is finding it hard to care. sobriety doesn't make my head better or the world better, both are fucked forever. i just can't afford the alternative. been thinking about evaporating or popping like a bubble, or wasting away in my own little cell. tapped out. useless.

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2013 08:51 (eleven years ago) link

aw shit got an appointment with occ health, better go front.

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2013 08:54 (eleven years ago) link

what is it about being unable to take good advice? laziness? stubbornness? unconscious desire to be doomed? don't even know what character traits are or where they come from or how you change them tbh but maybe that's down to lalalala not listening or not trying i dunno circularity

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2013 10:11 (eleven years ago) link

feel like i'm constructing a How Not To manual

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2013 10:11 (eleven years ago) link

best wishes NV

laziness? stubbornness? unconscious desire to be doomed?

feeling this quite a lot tbh

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 11 April 2013 10:28 (eleven years ago) link

^

howaya btw

rust in pieces (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 April 2013 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

nood have you read infinite jest?

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 11 April 2013 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

i've always assumed i won't like DFW

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2013 11:09 (eleven years ago) link

have u read tuesdays with morrie

rust in pieces (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 April 2013 11:11 (eleven years ago) link

me too! however, i was persuaded to try it and it is excellent. i think you will find it has a good amount of nutritious Food For Thought, plus it is almighty long which was an hour-filling boon for myself personally.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 11 April 2013 11:13 (eleven years ago) link

i keep thinking i'll end up reading him at some point, can't hardly stick to anything at the moment tho, am mostly flitting between the Koran and The Grifters

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2013 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

what is it about being unable to take good advice? laziness? stubbornness? unconscious desire to be doomed? don't even know what character traits are or where they come from or how you change them tbh but maybe that's down to lalalala not listening or not trying i dunno circularity

not the first two, i don't think. i'm imagining that you offer good advice as well. horrible irony of knowing but not being able to do seems somehow significant?

Fizzles, Thursday, 11 April 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

have u read tuesdays with morrie

― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:11 AM

i have

http://bit.ly/oIujXP (markers), Thursday, 11 April 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

morrie dies

http://bit.ly/oIujXP (markers), Thursday, 11 April 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

alright, anyway. good vibes to all itt

http://bit.ly/oIujXP (markers), Thursday, 11 April 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

pondering today: speed dating, cherry blossom, dead pubs, the city in sunshine, being a ghost haunting the ruins of a dying country, retirement to Japan, sleep, my own fecklessness.

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

oh, and the church, nearly fell into the hands of the C of E but i'm with Stephen Dedalus on choosing the consistent lie if i've got to swallow one at all

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

i will retire to an ozu apartment in niigata prefecture one day

clouds, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

i'm looking for a churchy alternative and i've only come up with humour, which i'm trying to make kindly when i can but it has tended to dilute the effect tbph

the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.lowgate.org.uk/

this is a beautiful church but i don't think i shd mistake loving architecture and history for loving Jesus

Sarushima baby jive (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

The CoE requires that you have opinions about Jesus now? When did that happen?

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

otm, i mean ffs it's the main benefit of your lot

the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

that church's postcode hu11 aa is like the personalized numberplate of postcodes

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

i watched these kids last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2498_ztVGh8

got no sound at work so don't know if this is the piece they played called "Spill the Beans" but they were hugely entertaining and life-affirming.

i am v much on an upturn this week - combination of perspective, better weather, keeping my shit together and having the inkling of a long term goal i think. thank god for Spring basically.

Sarushima baby jive (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 April 2013 09:27 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2498_ztVGh8

that one should embed, dammit

Sarushima baby jive (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 April 2013 09:27 (eleven years ago) link

Happy days

the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 April 2013 09:33 (eleven years ago) link

an anti-malarial programme conducted by the US Army in the far east during the Second World War. The ‘natives’ were shown posters with blown-up images of mosquitoes and spray equipment for insecticide. Upon later enquiring why there [sic] technologies had not been put into use, the clan chief replied: 'because we do not have any mosquitoes that big'

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 08:37 (eleven years ago) link

an anti-malarial programme conducted by the US Army in the far east during the Second World War. The ‘natives’ were shown posters with blown-up images of mosquitoes and spray equipment for insecticide. Upon later enquiring why there [sic] technologies had not been put into use, the clan chief replied: 'because we do not have any mosquitoes that big'

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 08:37 (eleven years ago) link

Visit a heritage site as someone else. Go as a Russian (unless you are, in which case it’s a
Fijian for you). Go as a psychotherapist, or as an inebriated Health and Safety inspector. Adopt
an imaginary ‘historic’ character and look at the site with borrowed curiosity. If you like to act up,
talk to each other in the accent or jargon of that ‘someone else’. Send yourself a postcard from
the site, written and signed by your alter ego. I once left an answerphone message for myself
from the free phones at the Goonhilly Satellite Earth Station, forgot I had, and was pleasingly
spooked a fortnight later when I picked it up and failed to recognise my own voice.

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 08:43 (eleven years ago) link

v. tired of sleeping alone. don't want to be with anybody just for the sake of not sleeping alone. stuck in the middle of those poles with no visible lines of flight. ghosting along all vegetal, almost content.

not really sure about goal-oriented thinking. don't think it's all that, to be honest. which makes a lot of everyday interactions weird.

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:10 (eleven years ago) link

end up discussing smart targets at work feel dirty

it's hard not to look at civilization as pretty inept sometimes. too many adverts or something. too many realists. gahhh feel grubby and inept too. waste of something something.

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't seen the movie field of dreams but i gather the idea is that the guy is inspired to build a baseball diamond so that ghosts of old legends will come and play in it, possibly? anyway, the reason i was thinking about it was that it seems like a nice albeit hollywood example of a purely unproductive pursuit, as a counterbalance to the mundanely relentless insistence on productivity in workaday life. like to have a project to dedicate yourself to, but in particular one that is as ludicrously nonsensical or just pointless as you can stand, i feel like that would be hugely therapeutic.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i've sometimes pondered making a vast coherent metaphysical system just for the sake of never telling anybody about it

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

Here's a tiny idea: let's make dumbifying pop culture. Here's a big idea: let's rebuild enterprise, commerce, and democracy. See the pt?

i see the pt, let's make dumbiying pop culture except it's not a commodity

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

Just ftr field of dreams turns out to be a paean to the special little flower entrepreneur who ignores all sensible advice to go ahead with a nonsense projec, in the end a shitload of ppl turn up from nowhere for no reason to give him bundles of cash. Horatio Alger myth but subtly tailored to be even less practical

i get yr point but i worry about this lol special little flowers lately, seems like the alternative is "stfu drone and get back to yr treadmill"

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

like "sorry i'm not pulling my weight on Pirate Galley Earth, i will brush up my can-do attitude and get right back to it"

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

more flowers less vegetables i dunno

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_A_User's_Manual

Between World War I and II, a tremendously wealthy Englishman, Bartlebooth (whose name combines two literary characters, Herman Melville's Bartleby and Valery Larbaud's Barnabooth), devises a plan that will both occupy the remainder of his life and spend his entire fortune [...] Ultimately, there would be nothing to show for 50 years of work: the project would leave absolutely no mark on the world.

Elvis was a hero to most but he never her (ledge), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

i've been meaning to read that for years but didn't really know that's what the plot was?

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

anyway let me tell you about special magic baseball pitch building guy and his hard-working neighbours. they all died.

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

I remember hearing a paper about someone in an asylum, maybe early 20th century, who would use her shit and other rubbish she could find to make these massive complicated machines that did nothing but operate within themselves. Let's see you film that, Costner.

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

Bartlebooths thousands

Can't remember if I've just massively spoilered it or things become clear early on. Either way 'plot' is a bit misleading iirc, it's a rich non linear tapestry of themes & characters. Man.

Just fucking reading can be ludicrously time consuming and entirely unproductive tbh.

Elvis was a hero to most but he never her (ledge), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

ah right the paper I was half-remembering was on Heinrich Anton Müller

http://www.indexpage.nl/pics/heinrich_anton_muller_big.jpg

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

xp

yeah i like that about it, have to wrestle with my inner protestant schoolkid that keeps wanting to learn tho

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

sometimes i think architecture might be the only decent human cultural product but then i think how much of it is rank

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

Good punditry is the pinnacle

this thread rewritten via Giles and Dunphy wd be a thing

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

This thread, any thread, great philosophical tracts, surely there's one for a trio/quartet

i am sad to have had my notions about field of dreams ruinously dispelled. i don't even want to know about rosemary's baby, i am gonna continue to believe it talks and hangs out with john travolta.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

i came to a realization recently of the somewhat obvious fact that everyone in modern society exists thanks to the usurpation of someone/something else's power -- but instead of the usual feelings of guilt, not wanting to step on grass lest i bend a blade, etc. i have instead used this fact as an opportunity to be thankful. like thanks for allowing me to exist, thanks for this gift. i think i understand karma now.

love's secret borad (clouds), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

did i really write that only yesterday? fucking hell.

love's secret borad (clouds), Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

estrus can bronze sheep's liver

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 April 2013 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

went to York for a conference yesterday, and when i woke up and got off the train all bleary-eyed and stepped out into the early morning sunshine i had this teary fit, cos of sunshine and beautiful architecture and history and this awesome sense of being free to go anywhere and doing anything but knowing that i didn't have that freedom cos i'd fucked it away a long time ago plus responsibility outweighs freedom plus the real world says "hi shut up do mundane shit forever - maybe i'll let you have the occasional touristy break if you behave real well - or die in a shitty backstreet somewhere clutching a bottle of cheap cider"

then i settled down

then on the train home some pissed up old dude plonked himself into the seat next to me and gradually falls all over me snoring and moaning to himself, head drifting into my lap, and at one point he gets hold of my thigh and gives it a squeeze and starts sliding his hand up crotchwise with intent so i lift his hand back down towards my knee and tell him "easy tiger" even if i can't tell if he's asleep or just trying it on or tbh just trying to freak me into moving seats so he can have the double to himself, but there's that stink of beer you've drunk coming off him, peculiar smell you only get after you've drunk the stuff, and i don't bear him any malice even if he is cramping my book-holding arm, and tbh i want a drink myself pretty badly by this point

but the train gets back to Hull and i wake him up and he moves and i get the bus home and behave myself and sit around in the damaged timbers of my life and think about plans to cast off for freedom and no deep down they're probably hopeless, and then get a little teary again and lonely, and then think well at least you have stories and tomorrow morning the birds will be singing again and when i woke up the birds were singing again

we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:44 (eleven years ago) link

:)

have a nice Blog (imago), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:53 (eleven years ago) link

That's publishable

the norman wisdom of gaffers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:01 (eleven years ago) link

i published it here :)

we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:09 (eleven years ago) link

beautiful tbh

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, that's the word

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

you're all far too effing kind. i like to try and map out those oblique bits of life, the nonsensical, the loser moments, into words. cos maybe the ephemera is the thing we all have most in common. or maybe it makes some sense laid out flat, stuffed and labelled so the next visitor can wonder what kind of misguided civilization came up with them.

ah bollocks if we don't tell each other stories how can we ever know we're in the same tribe?

we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

I admire your willingness to share. I silently make various poignant observations, but as a general rule I'm not willing/able to share them with anyone. You're generous! It's nice.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pldwyvFseFU

i am what they call in the trade reinstated :\

2 days into my bender and contemplating a 3rd - which i don't feel physically capable of, yet, so we'll see

and for what? idiot logic. lonely lonely lonely = set sail on the sea of pubs looking for company, that's gonna run in the other direction as you stagger and drool pissed into view. but that hopeless hope fucks with me.

this is the mechanics of how an addiction cons you.

we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 May 2013 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

:(

the norman wisdom of gaffers (darraghmac), Friday, 3 May 2013 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

tbh there's few things in (my) life better than feeling sozzled and sorry and listening to maudlin tunes, it's the lack of longterm viability that's the big ish

we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 May 2013 10:36 (eleven years ago) link

dude i can't think of anything positive or supportive to say that isn't despicably banal but all the same you should know that there are folks here that care about you to whatever extent this limited interface allows, and for whatever that might be worth

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 May 2013 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

thanks dude. at least i'm having the good sense to stay in today. nothing for it but to shrug and climb back on the wagon, really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDRdCdW_k3A (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 May 2013 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

or back in bed. on the third day he rested, after all. and television really is a remarkable thing. spiralli otm.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 3 May 2013 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

Do what you can, hit us up and we'll do what we can

the norman wisdom of gaffers (darraghmac), Friday, 3 May 2013 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

Thinking of you, J. <3

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Friday, 3 May 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

Wolves manager Dean Saunders, following his side's relegation to League One: "Our fans have had three years of pain. I'll be delighted to try and change it for them.

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 4 May 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

worst effort at rehab ever

Rowdy Rathore (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

Hey

al leong the watchtower (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, I'm sorry NV. Hang in there, we are thinking of you. That sounds so dumb but I don't know what else to say other than what's already been said much more eloquently by others before me.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Ive had close experience of much worse fwiw

al leong the watchtower (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

i'd beat myself up about it but that seems to make the panic attacks worse :/

Rowdy Rathore (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

torn between feeling really fucking stupid and reassuring myself i'm probably not having a heart attack

Rowdy Rathore (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

As someone who has had multiple panic attacks weekly over the course of the last two months and nearly took myself to the emergency room a handful of times I can tell you that you are probably not having a heart attack but God I'm sorry you're experiencing a PA right now. Scariest feeling. :/

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

i get them every time i'm hungover E so i know what it is and this was yet another reason to stop doing this to myself

Rowdy Rathore (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

ME TOO!

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

and of course knowing what they are doesn't make them go away, thanks stupid brain

Rowdy Rathore (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - Well, not before these last couple months but during that time I had once each time I had the slightest hangover. Turns out that was a huge trigger for me and it did make me cut down my drinking (or at least rethink it) until I start feeling better.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

No, it doesn't and that's maybe the hardest part for someone who has never had one to understand. You know what it is, you know that you're not actually having a heart attack and yet all your brain can think is OMG GONNA DIE RIGHT NOW AHHHHH. It's just such a fucking awful feeling. :/

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

i know, at least i'm lucky in that i have the power to not get them this bad if i just keep my fat arse out of pubs

Rowdy Rathore (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

I found you something, maybe you will like it? Or maybe someone will.

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

i think i do. i can't take that all in at once - i can't concentrate on reading so good right now - but yes, it speaks to me. it might speak to some of the people on the depression thread too.

thanks :)

unfortunately all i got right now is Nurse With Wound doing - take the verb how one wants - Harold Pinter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gYU-8gLLK4

Koné 2013 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.

:\

Koné 2013 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

Anhedonia is real! Powerful real, unfortunately.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

That's a really good depiction of one aspect of depression.

I wrote a long non-post here on some tenuous pretext of compare/contrast to the blog post but, short version, saw a ghost of my past today, it gave me a faintly disgusted look and we both returned to pretending we weren't in the same room. (Not an ex. Just a reminder of a time long ago before everyone decided I was too snooty to hang out with them when I was actually stuck in dead fish space 24/7, and it's a decade too late and still too painful to tell them, so fuck it, let them be disgusted. Who needs people when they/we are so easily disgusted by each other?)

Self-indulgent. I'm doing OK. Thinking of you, NV. & you, ENBB, too.

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

that is NOT self-indulgent. it is a necessary step to admit those kinds of things and to also contemplate them.

good luck, hon.

touch fuzzy, get dizzy (boy_slayer), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

We need other ppl, i think, but never as many as you'd be led to believe

i gave ten pounds and all i got was a lousy * (darraghmac), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

that Hyperbole and a Half thing mirrors exactly (corn aside) what a couple of close friends have gone through and one is still going through so it made for tough reading. In some somewhat gross and parasitic way their experiences have made my bluest moments somehow more bearable, in that there's always a small element of really appreciating sometimes being able to feel good feelings, even when I'm not feeling them now.

ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.

That makes a ton of sense to me. In both being the person with the dead fish and the people trying to help.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:38 (eleven years ago) link

xxp We probably do need a few. But how to work out which, make them need you back, walk the tightrope between needing them too much and them needing you too much?

Not really breaking new ground with these questions here, I know.

xp Yeah, the strip did make me appreciate that even in my greyest months I could still get small measures of joy from listening to music. I am thankful for that, and for living in an age where I can envelop myself in music without having to play an instrument myself or go out among people or even get up and turn a record over every 20 minutes. I mean that might sound small but given that I could barely summon the energy to read books or even comics, an entirely passive method to transport myself ~out~ was a blessing

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry, to find out those answers you need to purchase my book

i gave ten pounds and all i got was a lousy * (darraghmac), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

Its a little scribble or two i call THE BIBLE

i gave ten pounds and all i got was a lousy * (darraghmac), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

I gave ten pounds and all I got was a lousy salvation.

the previous Hyperbole and a Half adventure in depression was really good too http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/adventures-in-depression.html

ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

it is horrible but calling my mother just reminds me how fucking glad i am that i am removed from that life

clouds, Monday, 13 May 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

sorry family, i just don't like you very much. you're trapped in the same cycles of ignorance and pain and i don't think i can change that.

clouds, Monday, 13 May 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

ultimately you can't carry the responsibility for other people's self-chosen ignorance, and nor should you

went back to work after a fortnight contemplating self-harm, dissolution, disappearance. wish i could carry that hyperbole and a half cartoon around with me. don't want to look like i'm turning my nose up at advice about positive thinking and looking on the bright side and counting my blessings and ahhh please

the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 May 2013 09:59 (eleven years ago) link

ever have one of those dreams where you find your soul-mate and after some kind of wacky adventure you're (re)united and everything is mindbending bliss until you wake up and it evaporates?

those dreams come from the devil

the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 May 2013 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

Often, usually about people I know. Tragic.

I'm stranded at a legal aid conference atm, hearing all about how government cuts are going to ensure that I'm never going to get a job in my chosen career that I've been working towards for 2 years. Happy Saturday!

Idk about physical self harm though dood, couldn't you just watch YouTube vids of wolves from this season instead?

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 18 May 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not going to get to the point of doing anything about it, i'd just been low enough that the idea kept coming back

done with that shit and other people's misguided complaisance now, gonna get my Tao back on

the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 May 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

sorry this government and every subsequent government are making this country a shithole unfit for civilized people to live in btw :(

the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 May 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

cupán tao

boyce lair (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 May 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

7/11 store selling poppers on the counter last night. bizarre and mean. magically headache-free.

the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

question that i am wrestling with. is the world of business/management/careers so twisted that any honest attempt to engage with it is going to crush my brain, or is my brain just too crushed to do deal with this perfectly normal, everyday world?

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

"identify own career and personal goals" is gonna be the rock i perish on, i fear

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

MindTools, Forbes, Swot analysis, personality types, jeezus SB modernity i'll take my chances with Typhus and ratmeat for tea

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

just c&p random bits of these articles

http://elitedaily.com/category/life/motivation/

specific - shoot own face clean off, measurable - face will be full separated from body, achievable - need to get gun, dutch courage, realistic - frankly as realistic as anything else i got lined up, timely - give it to the end of the week

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

the thing is Nilmar we laugh at cobblers like elitedaily but there's this whole world of normal looking people living this shit and either thinking it's normal or doing a much better job of playing along than i can

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

just want a roof over me head, enough to eat and internet access, don't see why i've got to join some kind of Stakhanovite death cult just so's i can live

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

what's really dispiriting is i'm pretty sure i'm not smart enough or fit enough to live like this but loads of other feckers seem to manage it

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

i work in education and we had to do a swot analysis for my school! it was an unfamiliar concept, but i guess it helped us formulate our strategic plan? or something like that?
i haven't thought of it as something that was all that terrible, iirc. just kinda came and went, just like students do from one semester to the next. not long enough to get under my skin.

are you required to espouse/wield some sort of managerial jargon for your job? or are you on the receiving end of the jargon?

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

i am trying to work out why i'm here and how i can be more effective, partly because of a course i'm required to complete

i notice a lot of these management gurus were born in Austria in the early 20th century

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

i gotcha
do you know what they want to hear?

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think i've got it in me to lie that boldly? not right now.

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

Ppl that do well at this def treat it as an rpg.

But wtf stay away from business or mgmt do something clean like tesco or kitchen porter or bowling lane attendant.

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

just blather and unnecessary abuse of stationery, feel like this is what working is except they're all in on some secret rule and nobody clued me in

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

btw am applying for a job as a REVENUE AUDITOR in another tab, partly cos i get to sharpen my teeth on irish business ppl

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

go for it. i'm a 44 year-old baby.

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

i am totally unfamiliar with this world of business, but i guess this is what they mean by soul crushing. i'm sorry. i hope soon you get a little fight back in you and engage in some epic bullshitting on this report.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

the worst of it is i'm supposed to be in education

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

is this a remedial/"developmental" exercise or one that everyone is required to do in order to prove their worth/survive?

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

management qualification. i was stupid enough to think i could improve things, didn't realize the idea was to fit in to the way everything works now.

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

so you are going for a promotion?

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 3 June 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

nah i am supposed to line manage a small team, because everything is crazy i then do the qualification to demonstrate that i can manage a small team. i'm quite happy with my ability to manage people - more or less - but the qualification is all about business management

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

ah ok, then i say it's total horseshit and you should lie your head off all the way through it like a champ.
just plow through it with bs! it will feel good to know you can learn a new language even if you don't like it very much.
that's how i feel about accreditation reports. i hate it, but when i can pull it off, i can go hehehe to myself.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 3 June 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

Otm. I do think that the bs culture of "management" tends to have a disastrousqp effect on the entirely unrelated practice of, yknow, actuality managing ppl. I've been doing grunt work for t€$¢o for most of my 20s, I don't think I could negotiate that world if I tried. Have an interview next week with a biotech company (a difft kind of grunt work, I don't know anything about science) and it took me a week and lots of booze just to write my cv & cover letter, it was such a foreign register to me. I don't think "this is what work is" at all, I think it's something that we have to grit our teeth thru & then get back to getting as much fulfilment as we can from our grind (which can be a fair amount!)

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

some of us lucked out and got desk jobs in the public sector tbrr

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

Typos galore but it took me ages to type that on my phone & the sun is in my eyes and pub blowhard is talking about killing paedos xp

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think I would like a desk job daz. But then I've never had one, unless (ugh) telesales counts

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

ah i'm just whining as per. sick of other people's foibles and sick of the wrong attention being paid to the wrong part of the job and sick of management gorillas beating their chests and trying to out-alpha the underclass and sick of being told to care about it

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

disengage, take the cheque, mouth the formulas, get out of there at five and read a nice book or w/e

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

- repeat until dead?

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

a reminder that job!=existence

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

That seems to be the deal xp

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

16 hours off every day, and 24 at the weekends. analyse it appropriately and it's a p good deal tbfh

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

What % of yr waking life is that tho

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

Ask the sheepfuxors

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

I mean I work weekends and have a 9hr day but

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

NV, I have a lot of trouble not getting angry about this stuff, especially 'competencies' (what happened to skills and knowledge?) and risk registers. A lot depends on how seriously everyone else takes it. If very seriously, that has a major impact on how seriously I take *them*. If not, happy to play the game to please the powers that be, and spend as little time on it as possible.

In a previous job one of our 'competencies' was 'If A then B thinking'. Imagine not having progressed to Level 2 in that. Bumping into walls, stepping off ledges...

ljubljana, Monday, 3 June 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

Xp Yeah see now that is not the good stuff, tho tbh tesco had a good bit to recommend it

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

I have developed a mild appreciation of management science stuff over the last three or for years of being managed by someone who explicitly rejects it and prefers to govern by decree.

It can be a moderately useful way of ordering your thoughts, analysing your decisions and making yourself accountable, if done properly. Of course it can also be used to obfuscate and make yourself less accountable though.

хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

You can use a shovel to plant flowers or to bash some skulls in

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Poll

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

ok I wasn't able to expand earlier cause wifi in the pub was rub but personally darragh I think it's a bad deal; to me "the dignity of labour" is bunk and like any sane person if a comfortable retirement were dangled in front of me right now I would step on a panda's face to get at it. I mean given the choice only a rube would spend most of their waking life (yes I haven't done the sums but it's 5 days to 2 right?) at work, and that applies equally to lugging crates around for t€$¢o and whatever white-collar thing you do.

but like I say, that's the deal, and I think you can extract a modicum of fulfilment from it (and I think "engage" is a better strategy than "disengage" as long as you do it on ur own terms)

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Idk i agree with u but for conclusion?

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

take what you can get? so a combo of my "get the max from ur grind" and ur "get thru it & go read a book" I guess

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

nothing to add but I am nodding my head in recognition over here in the corner at many things itt

(gotta write some SMART objectives of my own this week for my annual review next week. expecting to get in trouble for various reasons most of which are my fault, or the fault of these stupid mental blocks I should be grown-up enough to work around. dammit)

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 3 June 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

it's not really the ridiculous language's fault i guess. i just have no personal or career goals that don't involve being somewhere else doing something else.

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

and i'm the only one who can do anything about it so i should stop kvetching and take my independence and my small personal fortune and get out there and make something of my future

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

attaboy

applied for two countem two jobs today rahh

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

I watched the last 3 eps of I Claudius and edited my OkCupid profile *fist pump*

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

i caught three tics exactly of i claudius the other night i sez to herself i sez here i've heard of this and look yerman from lord of the rings is the lead what harm we'll watch it and jesus it was fucking rope that's my cred fucked round here for the week

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

haven't touched my okc profile in months, logged in for the first time in ages cause I got a "you've been chosen!" email, apparently someone called bux0mh0bbit rated me 5 stars, no lie :-/

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

does she look like a hobbit

not enough

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

ok I wasn't able to expand earlier cause wifi in the pub was rub but personally darragh I think it's a bad deal; to me "the dignity of labour" is bunk and like any sane person if a comfortable retirement were dangled in front of me right now I would step on a panda's face to get at it. I mean given the choice only a rube would spend most of their waking life (yes I haven't done the sums but it's 5 days to 2 right?) at work, and that applies equally to lugging crates around for t€$¢o and whatever white-collar thing you do.

but like I say, that's the deal, and I think you can extract a modicum of fulfilment from it (and I think "engage" is a better strategy than "disengage" as long as you do it on ur own terms)

anyroad

i can see some overlap but some not here tbh, i mean firstly even @ 9hrs pd x 5 that's 45/168 which isn't really all that bad a deal to keep a wolf from a door, as long as the work aint killing you slowly, historically speaking. yeah sure you can rack off another say 56 hrs of sleep from that time if you like, but personally i fuckin loooove sleeping and i think it fair to include it as 'me time' rather than writing it off as benefitting some vague creditor to be resented. if we split the difference it's 83/168 hours allowing for commute and ablutions if you consider those another onerous duty impeding yr eternal spirit (see the first entry in 'what's happening to our borad tmi' for my thoughts on that tbh) which is happily giving you (allowing for no other duties lol parents sorry u guys) half of your time as a productive member of society as pure profit.

im not buying any dignity of labour shite either, but participating in the system (and it is far from the worst system that has yet been devised afaict from a vague scan of history) to that extent as a bare minimum still seems like a p sweet deal, viewed as objectively as i can. taking fred taylor as our managerial theory/worklyfe starting point (as many modern texts are wont to do, more's the pity) as opposed to the top of maslow's pyramid (ironically, if the egyptians had lionised the loftier concepts of maslow's thinkings as they are often applied to the organisation of labour we'd never have had any pyramids but that is another thread) then even the likes of a tesco gig isn't too bad of a starting point (my brother is there oh shit maybe ten years at this stage, and i rocked the check polyester myself from 2004-2007 around and after college).

i think i digress tbh, but really i might take slight and companionable issue with the alignment of 'disengaging' as accepting a bad deal at work vis a vis one's personal tolerance and requirements financially, mentally and balancing everything else one looks for in an existence- it was really more in the spirit of turning off one's wider and loftier critical faculties and shifting in listchecker, boxticker mode once you find yourself on whatever clock ticks to the beat of your hourly wage. can't say as that it gives on the huge sense of satisfaction that was promised in the leaflets for tertiary education/secondary education/primary education or wherever you got your hardwiring from, but tbh and only personally speaking here, it has served better than the wallowing i engaged in for a few years before/while finding and completing a shitty college course. some buddhist-lite notion of 'don't go looking for shangri-la as a place of employment, that shit'll drive you mad'

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

tl;dr

fuck's sake don't look to get your fulfilment from work are you soft in the fuckin head son

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's more a case of "ok this isn't gonna be fulfilling" but it acts as just enough of a banal energy-sapping soul-crushing headfuck to negate most of yr other chances for finding said fulfillment. and i think it gets worser as you get older

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

yes to progression within it, obv, and yes i recognise totally the desire after x period of time to kick on, but these are factors that plug into the equation, they dont invalidate it imo

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

I said "modicum" tbf daz

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

I am soft in the head tho

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

just another manic monday

Green_Partyhat for iFunny :) (Matt P), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

mod, i cum

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

ew

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

blatant self-abuse of mod privs

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

you need to give I Claudius a little time tbf

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

i gave it the amount of time it took the actor shagging the empress or w/e to do three distinct impersonations of kenneth williams tbf

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

16 hours off every day, and 24 at the weekends. analyse it appropriately and it's a p good deal tbfh

― bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:51 (5 hours ago) Bookmark

and yet you are not writing your novel

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

nor am I, tbf. about to watch game of thrones. for inspiration, natch

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

natch

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

nartch

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

gnaaaritch

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

the novel may or may not have been started you slavedriving pest

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

GNNNNAWWWRIIIDGETCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHKKKKKKKCHCHCHCHHHHHHHHHHh

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

just fp'd myself

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

GNNNNAWWWRIIIDGETCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHKKKKKKKCHCHCHCHHHHHHHHHHh

man this is even worse than "malty" as nicknames go, give nilmarzinho a break

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

anyway darragh I think we are basically in agreement and talking past each other re "disengagement" will maybe elborate when sober but prob not

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

thought there was some kind of Ready Brekekekex joke hapning for a moment there

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

elborate is boris johnson's nickname for himself when he's abroad y/n

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

el borat

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

is that the joke?

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

elbow rate

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

he pays for lots of handjobs you see

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

it would be a scandal for any other politician, but not our boris

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

Mayor
Sex Tourist
Legerrrrnd

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

ha

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

inspiration: kill off half my characters!

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link

i think my brain might be made of porridge. i have started reading Martin Seligman's Learned Optimism. i don't know if i like him or trust him yet. i'm waiting to reach the bit that will change my life. i'm intercutting with Capital and Vaneigem just in case. i'm supposed to be doing something else, but i think my brain might be made of porridge and it's pretty damn hard to think. i think i might have always been a very shallow reader/thinker.

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:06 (ten years ago) link

Is Capital any good? I like Lanchester a lot (assuming it's him you're reading and not Marx) but am a bit wary of his attempt at a ~State of the Nation~ novel...

Neil S, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:11 (ten years ago) link

i assume the Lanchester is terrible - see Fizzles' epic thread - i'm reading Marx

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:12 (ten years ago) link

:D

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:18 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Axt_80nsfU

these is the only Emeralds i value

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:18 (ten years ago) link

Martin Seligman's Learned Optimism

oh I tried to like this because iirc Crabbits said nice things but there was one particular chapter where he became firmly wedged in the Them Not Us pigeonhole of my brain and after that we did not get on

I would not like to prejudice your own reading with further details but given your reservations on this thread you may very well know it when you get there

interested in your thoughts, anyway

been reading various self-help/pop-psych books of late trying to find What Is Wrong With Me And How To Fix It, mainly just reaching the conclusion that Everything Is Wrong With Me (But Not In A Very Interesting Way) And Nobody Knows How To Fix It

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link

i'm guessing that Seligman is gonna tell us that that way of thinking is What Is Wrong With Us and we can unlearn it and make ourselves free - i'm just afeared the implication will be "free to be happy and useful under capitalism. am trying v. hard to stay openminded, sometimes a douchey sentence is followed by one that seems less douchey.

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:37 (ten years ago) link

and then the big unanswerables are along the lines of - maybe not everybody is equipped to function well in the society they inhabit, is learning to function well in said society a necessary good?, is even asking that question a sign of resistance and the result of lazily clinging onto safe bad habits of mind?

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:40 (ten years ago) link

free market capitalism needs unemployment and criminality as functional elements in the appropriate doses, maybe it needs discontent or failure or dysfunction in small doses too, either as moral exemplars or as draining off of potentially disruptive influence

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:42 (ten years ago) link

evolution as a mechanism depends on its failures as much as its successes?

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:43 (ten years ago) link

possible reaction to being and living and working amongst human detritus for long time

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:47 (ten years ago) link

by Nobody Knows How To Fix It perhaps I mean Nobody Is Very Interested In Fixing It bcz most of these books just shrug and go "look at these people, they are defective and sad and insufficiently productive to work as salesmen or investment bankers, if only they changed their entire way of thinking they could be like these other people" - the author would rather list their flaws instead of explaining how to change them

or if there is any "how to change", it is that next time you catch yourself thinking "this will go wrong and these people won't like me" you are supposed to go "well la-la-la PERHAPS it will all go just fine and PERHAPS the people scowling at me are just a bit tired but we'll all hit it off super great once we get to know each other!" which seems to leave you shit out of magical change potion when it turns out you were right the first time

sorry, I have veered off-topic on my personal hobbyhorse du jour

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 10:05 (ten years ago) link

from what i've read so far Seligman insists he isn't on some "power of positive thinking" steez, in fact he's quite snarky about it. the kicker will be how "learning optimism" differs from "positive thinking" i guess.

but i think Nobody is Very Interested in Fixing It because there's more than enough human capital to go round. While I was doing something else I just came across this piece

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-22764034

which seems like a solid example of a socioeconomic system that wilfully wastes the potentially of many of its people and then blames the people themselves for being waste

in fact this is the heart of where we are perhaps - our failures are still purely products of our sins and character flaws, so we're told, so the world has it

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 10:15 (ten years ago) link

Hull is huge swathes of real, but realness of different vintages lie scattered and overlapping around the place. I shall take these considerations to a relevant thread.

The Sculcoates/Bev Rd enclave I live in now is certainly real, but the frothy blend of European and non-European immigrants, playing park boozehounds and weedfiends, old Hull working class kids and old people - no middle-ground - is a v. new thing for Hull as Hull, certainly no older than 20 years.

Hessle Road is the city's spiritual home of realness, the ghost shanty of the trawling industry defiantly refusing to melt right away, factoried and government agencied into some kind of objective correlative of the Thatcherite slaughter of working class innocents.

Preston Road is its mirror, geographically and culturally, a purpose-built future that turned to post-apocalypse so fast it's hard to believe the houses weren't built pre-boarded and the taps not fitted "hot", "cold", "white lightning".

800 years of arm-wrestling poverty and mostly losing while i few merchant oligarchs built their castles along the riverbank and walled them high to keep the helots at bay.

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 11:04 (ten years ago) link

What level do you want to reach in your career, or what do you want to achieve?

To spend my life doing things that motivate and fulfil me. At the moment I don’t believe that a large hierarchical organization can provide me with that. I’m content with the job role I have now, if only I could perform to the best of my abilities and prove to myself and others that I am capable of achieving everything the position requires of me and going beyond those requirements to add value to the service we provide. I have no idea what my ideal job would be – I currently have ideological and temperamental objections to employment. But if I can overcome the self-destructive behaviours and attitudes that I have lived with as an adult I will explore all the possibilities that the future might hold for me to make a living that allows me to live with myself.

Firmly believe this is a reasonable answer.

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

The Sculcoates/Bev Rd enclave I live in now is certainly real, but the frothy blend of European and non-European immigrants, playing park boozehounds and weedfiends, old Hull working class kids and old people - no middle-ground - is a v. new thing for Hull as Hull, certainly no older than 20 years.

Hessle Road is the city's spiritual home of realness, the ghost shanty of the trawling industry defiantly refusing to melt right away, factoried and government agencied into some kind of objective correlative of the Thatcherite slaughter of working class innocents.

Preston Road is its mirror, geographically and culturally, a purpose-built future that turned to post-apocalypse so fast it's hard to believe the houses weren't built pre-boarded and the taps not fitted "hot", "cold", "white lightning".

800 years of arm-wrestling poverty and mostly losing while i few merchant oligarchs built their castles along the riverbank and walled them high to keep the helots at bay.

Just imagined that I was reading a 'Hull City: who are they?' Premiership magazine preview.

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

would subscribe, obvs

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link

can only write as an outside observer, even after being here for 25-odd years, so my sense of the real is filtered through my permanent exile shtick.

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

if I had to gossip about City itself, well, I hear stories that all is less than harmonious in the boardroom

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

that's the case all around the hyperinflated world of loss that is football

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link

oh Dr Seligman your scientific principles seem quite reasonable but yr conservatism and moral realism make it a real struggle to have faith in the mindset you're promoting. still you seem to have my number, thinkingwise. one more line about brokers and i swear i'm throwing the book tho.

dohism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 June 2013 13:12 (ten years ago) link

pished and shlipping into shleep is no way to go thru work, son

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link

felt like i scrubbed my teeth for an hour this morning and i still feel like i've got a mouthful of kebab

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:05 (ten years ago) link

and i think i can see a way thru the mire but it mostly involves not getting drunk

and no longer staring into the void of self-help gurus

so many perversions of the Tao

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:06 (ten years ago) link

it's a beautiful day to be a tree

a sell-out, not so much

Dr Seligman tells me i shdn't think of myself as a sell-out, just somebody who has sold out a few times

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:09 (ten years ago) link

this civilization is dirty and sick and wants bulldozing

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:10 (ten years ago) link

Lord grant me the etc to etc

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:11 (ten years ago) link

yah i know i just wanna sleep under a tree tho

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:14 (ten years ago) link

i'm secretly listening to Eno/Budd and trying to throw out the odd comment that looks like i'm in the zone

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:15 (ten years ago) link

dammit why isn't their an album rip of Fisherman's Blues on Youtube?

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:19 (ten years ago) link

far away from dry land and its bitter memories

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:19 (ten years ago) link

The auld fella sold out, he's commanding pleasure cruisers now. Lyfe.

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:24 (ten years ago) link

They were about him here and there, with heads still bowed in their crimson halters, waiting for it to melt in their stomachs. Something like those mazzoth: it's that sort of bread: unleavened shewbread. Look at them. Now I bet it makes them feel happy. Lollipop. It does. Yes, bread of angels it's called. There's a big idea behind it, kind of kingdom of God is within you feel. First communicants. Hokypoky penny a lump. Then feel all like one family party, same in the theatre, all in the same swim. They do. I'm sure of that. Not so lonely. In our confraternity. Then come out a bit spreeish. Let off steam. Thing is if you really believe in it. Lourdes cure, waters of oblivion, and the Knock apparition, statues bleeding. Old fellow asleep near that confessionbox. Hence those snores. Blind faith. Safe in the arms of kingdom come. Lulls all pain. Wake this time next year.

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link

With light in my head
You in my arms

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:27 (ten years ago) link

Are u doubting knock god help us

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:30 (ten years ago) link

not my words, the words of Top Gear magazine

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:31 (ten years ago) link

rilly all i wanted from life was too be an ethologist

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 10:38 (ten years ago) link

good therapy session today. realised my compulsion for playing the beginnings of games over and over until i get them just right has broader implications for how my head works. also realised i can be a fundamentally self-centered twat and still incapable of tending to my own needs. yay progress!

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

but i didn't know about ethology until it were too late

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

What does using a game genie say about one

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Friday, 14 June 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link

don't get me started on cheats, i'm forever moaning at our Joel

possible badger on malware thread (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

also realised i can be a fundamentally self-centered twat and still incapable of tending to my own needs

Christ, trying to catch a truth bomb descending on the perpendicular here.

Fizzles, Friday, 14 June 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i just had a real brute of a crush dream on an old flirty friend

ouch, it hurts

two weeks pass...

My quickest route into town is along one of Hull's old drains, just near the back of my house

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/P1000510_zps0476eb46.jpg

and past the shells (possibly functional) of ornate old schools etc.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/P1000516_zpsd1510665.jpg

I like how the logo looks kinda Hebrew here as I skirt thru the industrial belt

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/P1000525_zps11287c76.jpg

the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 July 2013 10:15 (ten years ago) link

Hull looks deserted, and also beautiful!

Neil S, Thursday, 18 July 2013 10:27 (ten years ago) link

i was walking back routes and it was reasonably early i guess - have a thing for keeping people out of my pictures

the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 July 2013 10:29 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

dreamed about booze and sex most of last night...for some reason

woke up too late to want to go in to work - have missed the last 9 days - the office is empty and the consequences ought to be kind of less but they won't be, i know someone will be monitoring this but i don't want to explain until i can walk back in there and talk to somebody face to face - maybe Monday

haven't spoken to another person since Monday.

none of this bothers me as such but my sleep cycle is so out of whack everything is slightly dreamy/zombie. am kinda monk-like and blithe, on the whole, except for the shadows of irl shit waiting to hit home and bust this bubble

but my only worry worries are external i guess, carry on for other people, don't drift away, don't perma-sleep. trly near careless.

ha i remember i dreamt about The Colour of Pomegranates and a redacted ILXor too - not in a booze or sex context, i swear - i have no idea where the film came from - but i saw a guy eating figs on TV last night, maybe that was in the chain

or Persephone ate pomegranates maybe? nice thinking Mr Jung

i see the path thru this shit every night, late, for a shiny 5 minutes. it's gone again in the morning and i'm back to gnawing at my paws.

phasmid beetle types (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 August 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link

:(

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

i don't want to try to force a bright side on you, but that is a tremendous kid you've got there

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

yeah the photos i've seen are funny as...i think she's trying to blag a part in Annie there

phasmid beetle types (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

hahaha, that sounds about right

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

that is one magical little lighthouse you have there, NV

keep your eye fixed steadfastly in her direction <3

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 August 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link

I love her!

Hugs to you NV.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Friday, 2 August 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

not being next to wayne rooney is doing wonders for her spirits

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 2 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

haha

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 August 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

I've loved her for longer, and she's IN MY CITY! That is excellent.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Friday, 2 August 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

You've got an amazingly beautiful girl NV. At the very least, there is that.

Hugs to you <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 August 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

thx, she the best. she'll be home monday and i'll have my shit laundered by then.

phasmid beetle types (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 August 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

set the alarms, got up when the back-up went off, crawled downstairs, shaved, trimmed ma beard, peered disapprovingly at my eye-bags, couldn't face dressing, couldn't face work, can't lose weight, can't think, can't plan, can't handle being in my mid-forties, substitute video games for life, mid-life forever

ech

dreamed i was a time-traveller being hung for murder, something about a liquor competition, something about an arms race that went backwards in time to the Big Bang, something about guns and loss

in France they piss on Main Street (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 August 2013 07:34 (ten years ago) link

HANNAH WANTS IS THE MFING BOMB YEAAAAAAAAAAH

the arpeggio as will and idea (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 August 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link

its raining. i've been to the bank. i've woken up at 4am every day for the last week with a feeling of complete and utterly real dread. in the next fortnight i have to finish an MA thesis which is so bad so far that i can't help feeling like the last two years were even more of a waste of time/effort/money than I already did, move house, find a full time job. help me. Help me NV.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 24 August 2013 11:15 (ten years ago) link

:(

you're clutching at the wrong hand and i wish you wasn't
i dunno man
THIS TOO SHALL PASS

your perspective on your MA is almost certainly wrong and the whole thing will look different from the other side of finished
don't edit at the same time as writing - sit down and write, don't think, don't look back - next day go back and edit what you've written - alternate process until done - the internal critic is just a drag when you're trying to create so keep it out of the process

i mean houses and jobs right? shit scares me too but i forget that there's BILLIONS of people who get by and don't get hung up too bad on that shit?

good luck dude, head down for the finishing line then take a guilt free week of doing what the fuck ever

the arpeggio as will and idea (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 August 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

tonight Matthew i'm going to be Arthur Morrison

http://www.londonfictions.com/uploads/3/5/0/5/3505647/7845199.jpg?238

the arpeggio as will and idea (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 August 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link

airplane -> Brazil -> rainforest -> solid gone, sorted

the arpeggio as will and idea (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 August 2013 11:25 (ten years ago) link

Sage words upthread but I would amend "doing what the fuck ever" to "acquiring a box set of diagnosis:murder and then watching it"

Bleat Generation (wins), Saturday, 24 August 2013 12:56 (ten years ago) link

i watched Murder She Wrote this morning there was some dope shoulder pads thought of our own Homo II

the arpeggio as will and idea (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 August 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link

Good show

Bleat Generation (wins), Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link

http://www.yelp.ie/biz/the-welcome-inn-dublin

seriously how good does this place sound tho

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

it sounds very good indeed

RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

rockabilly sundays makes me want to move there.

Fizzles, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

sometimes just the language of job adverts makes me a bit teary.

plus the apparent lack of jobs that i'm qualified or capable of doing.

so, the age-old game of "going to sort my shit out. fuck, i'm near unemployable. might as well let my shit stay unsorted. rinse. repeat."

fuck this country, world, me. just need to let go of life really.

had good man to man with the boy last night tho about the importance of pursuing your goals whole-heartedly as you reach adulthood, aka "stop tooling about on the internet quite so much".

pleasantly unworried about my kids, who are much smarter and full of life and brain and willpower than i'm ever likely to be.

and it's sunny today, and perhaps the secret is just to welcome oblivion full on. at 44. dick.

RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2013 08:51 (ten years ago) link

best wishes NV

^ not worth much but it's all I've got

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 31 August 2013 08:58 (ten years ago) link

i'm blasting PE and washing dishes then cooking breakfast, ain't no moment bad in itself.

while the kids are here, anyway.

RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2013 09:03 (ten years ago) link

Is The Welcome Inn still open? I'd heard it closed down. Used to go there from a v young age (I remember the landlord giving me a free pint on my 18th birthday.) Was a brilliant pub and my first experience of going to a pub where you could walk in and be sure you'd know somebody.

Went back about 3/4 years ago and it hasn't changed a bit.

I heard it was gone though, recently.

Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Saturday, 31 August 2013 10:27 (ten years ago) link

yes, best wishes. PE sound like the best option at the moment.

it's one of those days where the clarity of light and cooler-than-summer sunny weather shout DO SOMETHING and I was going to just immerse myself in books, but it's a day that feels too pregnant with possibility (illusion) to do that.

so am standing on the south bank (ikr) watching things go by and trying to hang out a hook to catch something, anything that might justify the day before it solidifies with the light into something experienced.

tired and puffy-feeling from a week of too much drinking.

yr children sound wonderful NV, and yr love for them and descriptions of them make my heart feel full by proxy. (partly also the existential sketchiness brought on by tiredness and drink).

remember meeting a friend who'd just had a baby and it bought home forcefully the transformative effect of having people who you care about more than yourself. I'm not there, and I feel old, corrupt, sick - sick of myself (as in an illness caused by me as well as self-contempt), but yr posts remind me it is there, and so there is also somewhere a substantial feeling that make me not wish for oblivion. memory and hope rather than the now maybe.

best of luck.

Fizzles, Saturday, 31 August 2013 11:02 (ten years ago) link

language of job adverts

Job adverts are particularly bad for generating worries about not measuring up to some false overblown standard.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Saturday, 31 August 2013 11:24 (ten years ago) link

i know! but even as i'm aware of this i'm thinking "no way do i measure up to a world where people think like this"

RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2013 11:30 (ten years ago) link

Useful exercise would be to imagine an advert for yr current or past job tbh, it helps to compare the bullshit speak (or alternatively eh proves you can blag it)

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Saturday, 31 August 2013 11:55 (ten years ago) link

^^^ Have done this

ljubljana, Saturday, 31 August 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link

really enjoy doing career questionaires, it's such a shame when there's no actual jobs to be won at the end of them

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 11:02 (ten years ago) link

Own reward iirc

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Friday, 6 September 2013 11:47 (ten years ago) link

do uk job apps have the same awful "personality assessments" where you answer questions like "i believe the guilty should be punished" with "strongly disagree", "agree" "neutral" &c &c. ?

clouds, Friday, 6 September 2013 12:29 (ten years ago) link

rarely if ever on job apps have i come across that stuff, have heard of it with the occasional company of foreign origin

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link

apparently my weakest skill is "showing energy and drive", lol science

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 September 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link

"energy and drive" are BS, fuck that shit

Neil S, Friday, 6 September 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link

Some do but it's not hugely common, as far as i know. I did a really strange one a few years ago along those lines. It had questions like "i know why stars twinkle - yes or no?".

I absolutely aced everything apart from "ambition", which is probably fair enough.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Friday, 6 September 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link

i've never seen the results of any test like that. i wonder if it's possible to do poorly if it seems too obvious that your answers pander to what you think they will want to see.

they're usually on applications for walgreens or some other shithole, adding to the absurdity.

clouds, Friday, 6 September 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link

"energy and drive" are BS, fuck that shit

i wish

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Friday, 6 September 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link

apparently my weakest skill is "showing energy and drive", lol science

― iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Friday, September 6, 2013 8:30 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is totally mine.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Friday, 6 September 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

-_-

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Saturday, 7 September 2013 10:24 (ten years ago) link

can one of you lovely folks kindly order me to get on with my writing and forget the bifurcation of my life down roads taken & not taken pls

... Jenkinson ... ... ... ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Saturday, 7 September 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link

if u dont get on with your writing you'll end up like me, frowing at a laptop in a stupid fucking cap listening to a Cafe Del Mar cd in 2013 ffs
http://i44.tinypic.com/2jciuw.jpg

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 7 September 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link

get on with your writing! Don't be a mug

http://i40.tinypic.com/2n6smyu.jpg

kinder, Saturday, 7 September 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link

*flees to Google Docs in terrified panic*

... Jenkinson ... ... military spending ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Saturday, 7 September 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link

this is my Getting Over Shit music btw. suck it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_VmyoAnT98

... Jenkinson ... ... military spending ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Saturday, 7 September 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link

'discrete mathematics'

i shoulda started that novel when u told me lj ;_;

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 September 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link

there isn't a right and a wrong direction to take, it's more a case of the forces of evil that push you in the opposite direction than you want to go in - if it's just a case of feeling like what you should do vs what you wanna do well, cobblers to that really

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 September 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link

oh I'm not framing it as right vs wrong. it's just two ways, with their various promises, yearnings

... Jenkinson ... ... military spending ... ... ... Özil ... ... (imago), Saturday, 7 September 2013 13:01 (ten years ago) link

ach i just oscillate between Elijahian waffle and mewling self-pity nowadays

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 September 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link

the opportunity cost of breathing is far too high and what are the government doing about it

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 September 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link

After the capture of Khovd, Ja Lama inflicted savage reprisal against the Chinese military prisoners and civilian population. His acts of cruelty included slaughtering most of the Chinese troops he captured. It was rumored that Ja Lama stabbed the prisoners in the chest with a knife and tore their hearts out with his left hand. He then laid the hearts together with parts of the brain and some entrails in skull bowls so as to offer them up as bali sacrifices to the Tibetan terror gods and hung on the walls of his yurt the peeled skins of his enemies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja_Lama

― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 22 December 2012 14:39 (8 months ago)

thought i had posted about ja lama on ilx before, now he gets a belated tribute

Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 14 September 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link

https://myspace.com/kingstownrecordings/music/songs

some tasty Acid from a friend of mine out here in the Humbrensian metropolis

Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2013 09:20 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/kCNMKAn.jpg

via Pauline Oliveros

i fell off the wagon and ow my head

i'm not racist, i just dislike rap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link

feel like having a discursive moan about education and lyfe and stuff but am quite thick-headed and distractible, seems unfair seeing as i've been going to bed early and acting all willing to work and shit

really pondering why even when i recognize the evidence for what they say i am unimpressed with the arguments of people who moan about declining educational standards in England. something about the system being not what they think it is or for and never having been, plus "intellectual snobbery" being v. ugly and misplaced i think?

ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link

on the other hand frequent eye-witnesses to young people being dragged thru and ultimately awarded qualifications when i strongly doubt they "understand" half of what they've "learned"

ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 10:27 (ten years ago) link

Some people who trash educational standards seem to be motivated be a desire to prove that they are the only ones who understand that things are going to hell in a handbasket, because only they have the intellectual pizazz to grasp how things could be. And many of them don't want to talk about what could change or whether some reforms have both positive and negative effects - they just want you agree with every single last thing they say.

ljubljana, Friday, 20 September 2013 11:30 (ten years ago) link

i think that's part of it, partly couched in a moral realist position about "well we know what education shd be and what it's for"

this is prompted by some "let's cram more kids into HE campaign" i got a note about today which made me roll my eyes because it's such an unthought through policy anyway - like just "being in HE" is great and it's not a contested, socially shifting project, but then i also thought what the kind of "campaign for old-fashioned shitty education" crew wd say and felt uneasy at sharing similar thinking ground

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 11:34 (ten years ago) link

it's a funny mix, is it, of ppl who would rather have education in very defined streams of vocational for the right sort and culture for the right sort, and then the rush towards 'everyone should be filled full of the wonders of education cos that's all that's wrong with humans *hearts 4 eyes*' and trying to pick a path that's beneficial and workable between these and twelve other competing falsehoods nb there is no money for such a path in any case.

a fox barks, btw. just barks. (darraghmac), Friday, 20 September 2013 11:38 (ten years ago) link

this is it, our education system is a mish-mash of deliberate intentions and out-dated intentions and "hey we've always done it this way why would we change?" and evil plutocrats trying to obtain the cheapest possible wage fodder. maybe, probly, all education systems are that. it's just when people refuse to see this that you get a kind of glassy-eyed cant about "standards" and shite

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link

oh and i saw some woman with her school-age daughter in the shopping centre this morning and my kneejerk "tsssk" turned into a "sure, it's a nice day, YOLO" in my head

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link

Tssky on the YOLO

a fox barks, btw. just barks. (darraghmac), Friday, 20 September 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link

http://www.jonathans-stories.com/non-fiction/neurodiv.html

just saving that for myself for later reading

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

Uncomfortable read and bless the guy, despite me not agreeing with him.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link

i've read a bunch of impassioned arguments pro and con neurodiversity today.

http://radicalpsychology.org/vol7-1/boundy.html

this is a fascinating counter to Jonathan Mitchell's piece, and also contains references to a stack of interesting material.

i'm still a believer in neurodiversity as a perspective and as a movement, but it's difficult to know how to respond to voices within the autistic community that are sharply critical of the notion.

if nothing else, i've been reminded that "Nothing About Us Without Us" is a crucial demand that's still a long way from being met

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link

sometimes i think about people of some fame - sportspeeps, actors, artists of various media - and realize that subconsciously i feel them as older than me even tho they're 10 - 20 years younger

lusty thoughts of big, strong, powerful hipsters (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2013 07:43 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

god i want a drink or a dozen drinks but i've really mastered the art of saving myself for nothing. eventually getting by becomes this real achievable habit. bleak habit. secret of getting by = robotification.

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

the dry satisfaction of stayin dry.

by reference of things in other threads i don't wanna mess up - the thought gradually occurs that i've wasted enough of the intimacy i've already had to think about creating new intimacies. for what? wd only waste again. even if it were possible to abstract something that only grows organically...can't follow this train now. evening thoughts just lost in the dry country.

i don't know if this distance is all in my head or if my loved ones get a sense of it without understanding or realizing that it's there. i don't know what the gap is that i want to close. i don't know why i'm enveloped in this bubble, or if it can burst.

i dunno what i'm saying. or why.

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

Dear Mr B_______,

A 12-year-old boy from Kenya was asked to give a TED talk. Although nervous and inexperienced in English, he told his story before a crowd of hundreds. And when he finished, the response was immediate - a full standing ovation.

Thanks CMI! Gonna go out there today and be the best 12-year-old boy from Kenya I can be!

ugh weather ugh this country ugh rationalism ugh taking care of business ugh happy robot

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 08:20 (ten years ago) link

mouldy empty dissatisfied cynicism - not cynicism really, just whatever the word is for being epically, Huysmannically jaded - is an energy, tbh

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 08:22 (ten years ago) link

Totes

champagne supernovella (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 08:40 (ten years ago) link

Tho it's mostly harnessable only in at best useless directions perhaps

champagne supernovella (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 08:41 (ten years ago) link

probly yeah, but sometimes being a headless chicken seems to be all people want of you

if i could just chimp in for a moment (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 08:42 (ten years ago) link

Far be it from me to define 'direction' as a value judgement hey

champagne supernovella (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 08:55 (ten years ago) link

sometimes i realize i've got to be in the same place doing a thing for the next 2 or 3 hours and i get this weird shudder at the impossible prospect of making that time go past, like i dunno how it'll happen

if i could just chimp in for a moment (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:00 (ten years ago) link

"all things must pass" is a phrase (from one of the Stoics I think) I often call to mind when I have to e.g. sit through an incredibly tedious meeting

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:15 (ten years ago) link

yeah, it's not quite that i'm bored - moment to moment i don't think i'm ever bored - more of a psychic/physical jolt at the entrance to a tunnel with no visible exit

if i could just chimp in for a moment (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link

it's the same old same old really - i keep pumping my legs cos everybody else is doing it and there are people cheering on the sidelines but i still don't get why everybody doesn't just lie down and look at the clouds and let the world slide out from underneath

if i could just chimp in for a moment (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

Cirrocumulative effect

be the strange you want to see in the world (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:23 (ten years ago) link

i finally found out what TED stands for. pah, i spit on your "Entertainment".

if i could just chimp in for a moment (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link

do you know the story of the beggar in Augustine's Confessions, nv? vibe with him

Euler, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link

i realised when i logged off earlier, a lot of this talk, aimlessness, emptiness is tied into my drink demon. i don't say the feelings don't exist or aren't valid, but this whole empty plain always has booze standing at the other end of it, waving me over and promising to make things different. don't really need that kind of different in my life now, tho i guess i'm accepting of some more complicated relationship with intoxication.

anyway the beggar doesn't read a bell, i'm gonna read about him.

if i could just chimp in for a moment (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

sometimes on very dark very rainy mornings when my debts fiscal and ethical are piling higher by the hour i get so worried that i won't be able to escape the pit i've dug myself into that i cannot concentrate on anything more than the blather of the internet. which kinda digs the pit a little deeper tbh. surfacewise i look okay tho so the question as to whether it's better to fear my own imminent undoing or the longer term inevitable dissolution and defeat of everybody i love is academic, at best.

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 09:33 (ten years ago) link

feeling of being 12 and in deep trouble, welcome back.

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 09:54 (ten years ago) link

We maybe shouldnt talk late at night huh

midwife christless (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:00 (ten years ago) link

am occupied territory but by what exactly i don't know. or disputed territory rather. got duty to fulfil whilst hiding from mean emails. there's a scary savage-looking intolerance just under the surface of lots of people in their work duds, tho maybe that same distaste for foolishness follows them around outside too.

i drink coffee and flick over to a work-looking file real quick whenever somebody gets near my shoulder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

i know there was at one point in time at least the possibility of meaning

xp lol talking late at night is not really a problem i hope

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link

i think i've got precious few resources for dealing with the storm because god knows my mom and dad was never much good at making everything feel better in the first place

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:06 (ten years ago) link

not sure that this is a question but i'm increasingly consumed with the feeling that there's an unbridgeable gap between me and the kids - by extension between me and everybody else but i don't really give one about that - but the gap is only in me, on my side. i don't know why this is. feel like i'm failing but don't know at what, not guiding them enough or supporting them enough or something that i can't talk to them about, it wd sound like crazy ramble, but here i am, sorry for letting them down in some invisible way, letting myself go down and thinking where the hell will i end up cos the safety net seems to have gone down there

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:14 (ten years ago) link

can't get close to anybody including myself and am typing to try to make the gap close or just to keep my brain semble activity

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:15 (ten years ago) link

Smaller focus mayne imo, smaller focus

midwife christless (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:19 (ten years ago) link

can't focus at all tbh

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:24 (ten years ago) link

really, this:

These days, when alone and anxious, I type out all my thoughts until I'm exhausted by them, then return to them later and am amazed! at what I was thinking.

― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 2 November 2013 19:15 (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and then this:

Please ignore this, I know I'm a whiny asshole, I just had to get this down so I can get back to work.

― CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 00:43 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

except i think pretending to work is gonna have to do today. and i'm rubbish at that.

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:27 (ten years ago) link

on a brighter note i am thinking of retreating into as much 17th century history as i can lay hands to

i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:28 (ten years ago) link

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i have no ass and i must twerk (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:30 (ten years ago) link

That is a good plan. The 17th century is where i hibernate.

woof, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:37 (ten years ago) link

not sure that this is a question but i'm increasingly consumed with the feeling that there's an unbridgeable gap between me and the kids - by extension between me and everybody else but i don't really give one about that - but the gap is only in me, on my side. i don't know why this is. feel like i'm failing but don't know at what, not guiding them enough or supporting them enough or something that i can't talk to them about, it wd sound like crazy ramble, but here i am, sorry for letting them down in some invisible way, letting myself go down and thinking where the hell will i end up cos the safety net seems to have gone down there

Hey noodz! Have you asked your kids if they feel you're connecting with them effectively? Because I feel sure you have both the processing ability and the sensitivity to watch and listen and find a connection point, and what you're saying reminds me of how ppl talk about depression and feeling cut off from their feelings, other people, etc, when the sensation is coming from the depression and not from their outward actions.

So just in terms of the idea that you're failing them in some unknown way (and fyi, as long as it remains "unknown" it can't be disproven, right? I don't know, that seems not very helpful...), if the kids indicate that they're fine, they know you love them, it's a good connection, it might be worthwhile to try to believe them?

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link

My thoughts, part two: The idea that if you're not "succeeding" at something then it's not worth doing is a ridiculous lie. An absolutely massive number of good things are worth just trying for, not striving, like, desperately, because we'd always be exhausted, but...working toward. Just because. Because it adds a tiny measure of goodness to the world that someone is trying? SAPPY BUT POSSIBLY TRUE.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link

not talking to them about this wd probably be stupid/wilful on my part, it's true. i'm sure there's a measured way.

the rest is - well, i'm still at my desk, what more do they want?

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link

please miss i had horrible dreams where my id was making fun of me and making me feel sad about myself can i just stay home today and feel sorry for myself a bit? ah forget it

. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 07:07 (ten years ago) link

I think IO is onto something

Telling yr kids, in a simple fashion, some of yr worries might help release you of them, or take the air out of them. You are the only Noodle Dad they have, or know, and he's the best one even on his bad days. Letting them show their love for you when you need it seems like a v good thing

idk

but as a nonparent maybe this is more fraught than it sounds

carry on, wayward noodle

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 07:19 (ten years ago) link

drag city xp

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 07:22 (ten years ago) link

for reals

. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 07:27 (ten years ago) link

i am going to try and pretend that i have the brain of a normal person

sarahell, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 07:28 (ten years ago) link

"Days in the Wake" also an apposite album title

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 11:51 (ten years ago) link

coming thru the storm a little bit i think/hope, honestly don't know what i'd do at the moment without you guys to whine at and to get good advices from

. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link

which was supposed to mean "thank you all"

. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link

today's brain-worms/nuisance thoughts/creeping dreads include:

negative space, dumb conversations i need to have with reluctant work people, it is sunny, financial institutions and how empty their threats might be, Jacques Lacan and his comical ways, why does i never have money, fucking hell Christmas coming no money, 3D tickets for Gravity cost a stupid amount, why i am so tired, i never visited Animal Crossing yesterday cos of stupid Philosophy Club, do i like Philosophy Club?, improbability of disposing of all possessions and starting again from scratch in a placid, orderly Zen fashion, suckitude of muckitude of late Autumn, why England is a island of the damned, fuck's sake fuzzy head on 1 very drawn out pint and ugh scree-surfing towards a bottomless wadi of pity poor alonely dead lump grim funny meeeee

. (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 November 2013 09:14 (ten years ago) link

ach Rudra crush space/time bitte right now but just for me throw back the little ones or something, something, gods damn this nation to hellblivion

. (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 November 2013 09:17 (ten years ago) link

so bored of brght lights, colours, movement, impetus

meanings

meanings and the quest for meanings and meaningful so effing bored. of. pinions.

. (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 November 2013 09:20 (ten years ago) link

just caught the bank balance after avoiding it as much as possible since starting this course, dear christ what am i doing

midwife christless (darraghmac), Friday, 8 November 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link

Do you want an orange Wednesday code to watch Gravity on two-for-one on weds?

kinder, Friday, 8 November 2013 11:30 (ten years ago) link

thanks but i have class

midwife christless (darraghmac), Friday, 8 November 2013 11:30 (ten years ago) link

That was for NV but anyone's welcome

kinder, Friday, 8 November 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link

Too classy for Clooney, uh huh

kinder, Friday, 8 November 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link

blue blood wednesday

estela, Friday, 8 November 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link

on my uppers class

midwife christless (darraghmac), Friday, 8 November 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link

gonna take the boy tomorrow i think but you are v. kind, kinder. wd never normally go for 3D but this is meant to be the biz?

. (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 November 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link

i have heard that it iz tbh? film buff friend made a point of the 3d.

midwife christless (darraghmac), Friday, 8 November 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link

Gonna go see it in 3d too (usually avoid unless I know it's done well). My o/h went to a talk by the ppl who did the visual effects and is so amped!

kinder, Friday, 8 November 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link

http://youtube/yZBR7OQx9qA

Fizzles, Saturday, 9 November 2013 10:02 (ten years ago) link

duh

http://youtu.be/yZBR7OQx9qA

Fizzles, Saturday, 9 November 2013 10:02 (ten years ago) link

it's gonna be a very Will Oldham winter i suspect

. (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 November 2013 10:03 (ten years ago) link

gaaah

durianlychee (imago), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

imago la

Nilmar (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

god i feel like shit right now trying to sort out everything at 9pm on saturday after a week of sleep disturbance and a bottle of wine

Nilmar (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

ex cheerily inviting me over for the night (turned down) has prompted all sorts of horrible horrible emotional largesse, the fact that the title-track of taking tiger mountain was playing at the time didn't help

durianlychee (imago), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

& at least it isn't sunday nakhers eh

durianlychee (imago), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

you don't need me to say this but do not go there in the literal rather than phobic metaphorical sense people are wont to use with that phrase

Nilmar (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

i'd be careful of being open enough to contact that you can even get asked questions like that which will only ever fuck with you, even if the entreaty itself was not unconscionable

Nilmar (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

oh i won't. the whole thing is fuckmared beyond belief by the fact she's still in no way over it & has been asking me why I made a commitment I couldn't keep. being friends is hard enough without this

think she's fucking with herself. she knows I've started dating other ppl. she needs to do the same I emphatically aver

durianlychee (imago), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

yes

Nilmar (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

wait, didn't she move out like, only a month ago?

sarahell, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

2 months m8

durianlychee (imago), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

still -- i think saddling up again so soon is not going to lead to anything resembling competent horsemanship

sarahell, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

everyone i'm going on a date with in the foreseeable future already has at least 1 extant & consenting partner. the way forward yo. 21st-century lj

durianlychee (imago), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

i was referring to your ex

sarahell, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link

saddling up again will result in me crying quite a lot & possibly never speaking to her again

durianlychee (imago), Saturday, 9 November 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

assumed you were just talking about riding horses

Nilmar (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 9 November 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

that does not change my post

durianlychee (imago), Saturday, 9 November 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link

i was referring to this:

she knows I've started dating other ppl. she needs to do the same I emphatically aver

sarahell, Saturday, 9 November 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

Well that was shitty

sarahell, Sunday, 10 November 2013 07:26 (ten years ago) link

yeah i think what yr ex needs is probably for yr ex to work out, given meditation time. as long as you're sympathetic but unyielding i don't see what else you can reasonably do - but i really really wouldn't offer advice to her.

. (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 November 2013 09:29 (ten years ago) link

on the other hand why the fuck wd i offer advice to anybody?

Gravity was v. good.

. (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 November 2013 09:36 (ten years ago) link

ach just found the mod request spin-off

it'll be ok, a couple of days of whining about being fed up at work shd drive everything off-screen

. (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 November 2013 10:18 (ten years ago) link

this post is in support of sarahell

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 10 November 2013 11:18 (ten years ago) link

^word

how's life, Sunday, 10 November 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link

i hope that goes without saying, but i think peeps shd read the end of the mod request thread before elaborating elsewhere

. (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 November 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link

i have no idea what is going on, but here it is a bright sunny sunday after days of pissy rain and i have just got back from the park and i'm cooking mushrooms and listening to dolphy and wish you all nothing but good things, peace out.

gotta lol geir (NickB), Sunday, 10 November 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link

^like

you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Sunday, 10 November 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

It really is a beautiful day innit? Emerged blinking from party at 7am and was kinda thrown by how sunny it was. Dolphy and mushrooms = good shout.

you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Sunday, 10 November 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

two hour game of five a side, scored a belter but why bother tbh, sorry to read of drama lj

golfdinger (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 November 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

Imago do you do jazz? Can't recall seeing you post about it but I imagine you being well into the more ecstatic, spiritual hat stuff.

you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Sunday, 10 November 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

the uplands of Uganda where the Lord's Resistance Army hangs out, the disputed Spratly Islands, Transnistria, the Triple Frontier region in South America

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:10 (ten years ago) link

The social separation reflected in the spectacle is inseparable from the modern state — that product of the social division of labor that is both the chief instrument of class rule and the concentrated expression of all social divisions.

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:11 (ten years ago) link

http://www.guiageo-parana.com/imagens/iguacu-falls.jpg

When the Indians saw us they clustered together, after having talked among themselves, and each one of them took the one of us whom he claimed by the hand and they led us to their homes. While with those we suffered more from hunger than among any of the others. In the course of a whole day we did not eat more than two handfuls of the fruit, which was green and contained so much milky juice that our mouths were burnt by it. As water was very scarce, whoever ate of them became very thirsty. And we finally grew so hungry that we purchased two dogs, in exchange for nets and other things, and a hide with which I used to cover myself. I have said already that through all that country we went naked, and not being accustomed to it, like snakes we shed our skin twice a year. Exposure to the sun and air covered our chests and backs with big sores that made it very painful to carry the big and heavy loads, the ropes of which cut into the flesh of our arms.

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:18 (ten years ago) link

another amazing day, blazing copper light and vivid shadows in the low sun, the sky blue and cirrusy, everything worshiping ancient nature gods except the resolute institutional architecture that's built to keep us safe from superstition and love

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:35 (ten years ago) link

me daydreaming about a million silent gentle bombs that wd rip the fabric of the state to pieces so we could build something less miserable out of the debris

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:38 (ten years ago) link

and wondering whether all utopias are built out of misanthropy

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link

standing on paddington platform, listening to an old garage mix, partly considering mainly with tired indifference my work goals which apparently I need to focus on, but mainly thinking about the strange consistencies of the world: last week been refreshed and very sober for near a week and every thing had perceptible presence and heft, like those models of gravitational pull, where planets create dimples in an elastic universe, representative of the effect of their mass. the strong effect was of a too-real too-vivid illusion, with no interstices or spaces for interpretation.

on hungover or sprightly days those interpretative variances will be alight, the interference of material meaning recedes strongly into the background allowing full solipsistic play of the imagination.

and then there's days like this. of insufficient interpretative resources and sensory stupidity like I'm standing in front of a piece of art with which I'm completely unable to make headway.

oh, an electrical circuit's gone just outside paddington. delays. should've stayed in bed tbf.

garage is great for these days tho - the fragmented syllables of female/male vox, disembodied tocking and clacks, deep bass ground, synths appearing and receding, emotions of alien elation and longing etc.

ok we're on the move. work sux!

Fizzles, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:43 (ten years ago) link

just a statist drone staring at collapsing synthetic dreams - weather here is that permadamp you get after several days of persistent light rain, soft grey lucent skies.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:46 (ten years ago) link

gonna build the new Jerusalem out of William Morris and UKG

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:48 (ten years ago) link

and if we have to live furtively in the gaps forever well, at least we'll live

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:55 (ten years ago) link

sign me up. comparing start of 20th and 21st Cs - the net of radio waves -void and disembodied voices.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:55 (ten years ago) link

you have been rereading C right

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:57 (ten years ago) link

that's what i thought about doing yesterday

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:58 (ten years ago) link

seem to do as much guerilla reading at work as i do when i finally get to sit down with a book of an evening

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

I haven't - but C/Kipling's Wireless were what I was thinking of. I like opening section of C as much as I've liked anything I've read in recent years. might revisit as am feeling possibly I undervalued the latter parts (post dogfight sections).

Fizzles, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 11:45 (ten years ago) link

you're all making me want to read C quite a lot. and fizzles you're making me sad you didn't submit anything to the writing submissions thread

imago, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 11:48 (ten years ago) link

i still kick myself for not picking up a 50p copy of C in one of those Book Cellar shops a few years back. so many books tho.

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 11:49 (ten years ago) link

alongside Mason & Dixon it was the most surprising thing i'd ever seen in a clearance shop

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link

raise you a stuffed otter playing a violin

golfdinger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link

dude i can't compete with Connacht

. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 11:55 (ten years ago) link

If I had not
a place of profit that forces me to go to church said Inflammable
Gass. Id see the parsons all hangd a parcel of lying __ O said
Mrs Sisgtagatist if it was not for churches & chapels I should not
have livd so long _ there was I up in a Morning at four
o clock when I was a Girl. I would run like the dickins till
I was all in a heat, I would stand till I was ready to sink
into the earth, ah Mr Huffcap would kick the bottom of
the Pulpit out. with Passion. would tear off the sleeve of
his Gown, & set his wig on fire & throw it at the people
hed cry & stamp & kick & sweat and all for the good of
their souls, __ I m sure he must be a wicked villain said
Mrs Nannicantipot a passionate wretch. If I was a man Id wait
at the bottom of the pulpit stairs & knock him down & run
away. __ You would You Ignorant jade I wish I could see
you hit any of the ministers, you deserve to have your ears
boxed you do.

a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 09:53 (ten years ago) link

on reflection, to submit yourself to feeling half the unhappiness i've felt these last two years, well, you must have been very unhappy before. i get it now.

a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

i've cried so much today that my eyes are closing involuntarily from sheer exhaustion

clouds, Thursday, 14 November 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link

<3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 05:03 (ten years ago) link

myrrha knows what's up

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 November 2013 05:08 (ten years ago) link

fuck, c i'm sorry

shit will work out in the end

Tom (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 14 November 2013 11:00 (ten years ago) link

today is not my best day but i did just see a dachshund with the largest lengh to leg size ratio i have ever seen running ever so slowly along, which improved things for a few seconds

Tom (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 14 November 2013 11:03 (ten years ago) link

oh it would

sending you kind thoughts clouds

a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

thanks, i appreciate it.

my boyfriend and i have decided to break up. i'm going to stay until the end of the semester (mid-december) so he can find a second part-time job and a roommate to help with the rent. i'm probably going to give my cat away too.

i've basically failed in every way possible.

clouds, Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

two years wasted from a wasted life.

clouds, Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

it doesn't mean something was a waste simply because it didn't last forever

idk it's different to say things right now that don't sound like bromides but i'm fairly confident that is true

we should exchange some more weird techno tracks soon anyway

eretz afl (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

different/difficult

eretz afl (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

nakh otm

ending /= failing

so sorry to hear that though clouds :(

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

i know. i tell myself that after this is over, i'll at least be free to be myself again. i don't want to feel like a martyr.

clouds, Friday, 15 November 2013 06:13 (ten years ago) link

today all the women i know seem to be implying that i'm a bit pathetic

i dunno what to do with this info. i'm just trying to be the best me i can be. can't even tell where thoughtfulness turns into feebleness tbh.

okay i may be reading stuff in there that isn't exactly there but i know a lot of people who see a lot in black and white and my greyness makes them dismissive. i'm okay with grey i guess. i just feel a bit like "can't cut it in the real world fuck you"

thus spake darraghthustra (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 November 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

even when there's a bit of me that just wants to EFF YOU RIGHT BACK i feel a sense of uselessness about it and just swallow it up

thus spake darraghthustra (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 November 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

what kinds of things are they saying?

fyi I will fight them if u want me to, as a favor for this upcoming season of giving

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 November 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

i shdn't've started moaning if i'm just gonna be elliptical so i dunno

i work with people who are very black and white when it comes to managing difficult staff, and today not for the first time i felt this vibe - probably just in my head - when i was arguing about the best way of dealing with people whose performance was less than ideal. there's a lot of "just bloody get on with it" in my office/department and i feel like that must echo back on me, like what were people saying/thinking for all those weeks when i cdn't get it together to leave the house?

then tonight i just had a phone call from the mrs to vent about our daughter's admittedly not great behaviour, but nothing i could offer to do and no support was any good, which, fair enough, you want to vent, i'll listen, but kind of getting at me because i didn't have a master plan that didn't involve patience and understanding and just keep trying, until i'm genuinely worried about what she's telling me but i'm not allowed to be worried or express worry, i'm just no use really

i mean fuck it some of this is probably perfectly true and i don't wanna be a delicate little snowflake but what a fucking week. i dunno if i can't concentrate cos i'm useless or cos shit keeps happening that wd throw anybody off their stride, apparently i'm all overdrawn at the feeling sorry for myself bank so

i just had to vent and this was really the only hole i had to shout down

thus spake darraghthustra (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 November 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

what were people saying/thinking for all those weeks when i cdn't get it together to leave the house?

well at least it appears that they have moved on to other targets

sarahell, Monday, 18 November 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

anyway i just got the traditional semi-apology from nom so forget it, i'm all good, nothing to see

thus spake darraghthustra (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 November 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

i really need to take a break

thus spake darraghthustra (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 November 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link

I wouldn't bother yourself with what the worst type of judgemental arseholes are going to think of you, it usually is as bad you think it is but fuck 'em fuck 'em fuck 'em.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 18 November 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

right

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 18 November 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link

All criticism is a valuable opportunity 4u to improve imo -_-

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 07:38 (ten years ago) link

An article reportedly written by the composer appeared in the Moscow newspaper Vechernyaya Moskva a few days before the premiere of the Fifth Symphony. There, he reportedly states that the work "is a Soviet artist’s creative response to justified criticism." Whether Shostakovich or someone more closely connected with the Party actually wrote the article is open to question,[18] but the phrase "justified criticism"—a reference to the denunciation of the composer in 1936—is especially telling.[19]

just got dope thai food (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 08:22 (ten years ago) link

that's not a headline, that's a modernist poem

veneer timber (imago), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 09:44 (ten years ago) link

http://songandsin.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/gilles-deleuze.jpg

Fedora or Borsalino?

uk cheese board (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 November 2013 08:52 (ten years ago) link

"10 habits of highly defective people"

5 results (0.35 seconds)

uk cheese board (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 November 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

Quick search kinda a kick in the teeth in context

30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Monday, 25 November 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link

got those "several minor things to be anxious/sad about and it's dark and cold and i've been stuck in here alone for the last 2 days" blues

which i know will be gone in the morning, so

i hope all you ILXors who Thanksgive are gonna be somewhere that makes you happy tomorrow

Noodle of the Vague family (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1463674_10151833519352671_1618647281_n.jpg

on the way to work this morning. the Christmas star on top of Maizecor flashes on and off.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

good philosophy club sesh on Wittgenstein's language games last night

led to the observation that a group of strangers are far more comfortable discussing their pain with each other than their sexual experiences

Working Class Rejected Street Boot Brat (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 December 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link

I'm out of the house! This week suddenly got very Blue Saturday, but at least there is a small amount of work (when I don't forget to go to it)

veneer timber (imago), Friday, 6 December 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link

good stuff

it's always Blue Saturday, just that Blue has a lot of different moods in it

Working Class Rejected Street Boot Brat (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 December 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link

was contemplating changing the title to Blue Slatternday

Working Class Rejected Street Boot Brat (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 December 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link

that would be a siren call to me.

estela, Friday, 6 December 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link

ah well in that case

Working Class Rejected Street Boot Brat (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 December 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link

i believe in fair warnings.

estela, Friday, 6 December 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

Blues at a day

imago hard or go haim (wins), Friday, 6 December 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

w8 I fucked that up

Blues at ur day clearly

imago hard or go haim (wins), Friday, 6 December 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link

Blue saturnday, in which the noted planet could be coloured blue (lights? Paint? Digital trickery? Mass delusion? Work on this later) as a marketing measure covering brands as diverse as brmingham city, everton, coventry city and the popular velvet market by david lynch

mind totally brown (darraghmac), Friday, 6 December 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

not having the Brummie Bashers in this thread thankuverymuch

Working Class Rejected Street Boot Brat (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 December 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

Suddenly, however, he was horrified at hearing the most dreadful screams, evidently the result of great terror, proceeding from the direction in which his son had gone, and he hastily threw down his tools and ran to see what had happened. Tracing his path by the sound, he met the little boy, who was running headlong, and was evidently terribly frightened, and on questioning him the man elicited that after picking a posy of flowers he felt tired, and lay down on the grass and fell asleep. He was suddenly awakened, as he stated, by a peculiar noise, a sort of singing he called it, and on peeping through the branches he saw Helen V. playing on the grass with a "strange naked man," who he seemed unable to describe more fully. He said he felt dreadfully frightened and ran away crying for his father. Joseph W. proceeded in the direction indicated by his son, and found Helen V. sitting on the grass in the middle of a glade or open space left by charcoal burners. He angrily charged her with frightening his little boy, but she entirely denied the accusation and laughed at the child's story of a "strange man," to which he himself did not attach much credence. Joseph W. came to the conclusion that the boy had woke up with a sudden fright, as children sometimes do, but Trevor persisted in his story, and continued in such evident distress that at last his father took him home, hoping that his mother would be able to soothe him. For many weeks, however, the boy gave his parents much anxiety; he became nervous and strange in his manner, refusing to leave the cottage by himself, and constantly alarming the household by waking in the night with cries of "The man in the wood! father! father!"

women in music haunches (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 09:23 (ten years ago) link

Two men disguised as Wild Men, the one in brushwood and moss, the other in straw, were led about the streets, and at last taken to the market-place, where they were chased up and down, shot and stabbed. Before falling they reeled about with strange gestures and spirted blood on the people from bladders which they carried. When they were down, the huntsmen placed them on boards and carried them to the alehouse, the miners marching beside them and winding blasts on their mining tools as if they had taken a noble head of game.

Happy Birthday!

woof, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link

thank you :)

Tim Finnegan lived in Walkin Street, a gentle Irishman mighty odd
He had a brogue both rich and sweet, an' to rise in the world he carried a hod
You see he'd a sort of a tipplers way but the love for the liquor poor Tim was born
To help him on his way each day, he'd a drop of the craythur every morn

Whack fol the dah now dance to yer partner around the flure yer trotters shake
Wasn't it the truth I told you? Lots of fun at Finnegan's Wake

One morning Tim got rather full, his head felt heavy which made him shake
Fell from a ladder and he broke his skull, and they carried him home his corpse to wake
Rolled him up in a nice clean sheet, and laid him out upon the bed
A bottle of whiskey at his feet and a barrel of porter at his head

Whack fol the dah now dance to yer partner around the flure yer trotters shake
Wasn't it the truth I told you? Lots of fun at Finnegan's Wake

His friends assembled at the wake, and Mrs Finnegan called for lunch
First she brought in tay and cake, then pipes, tobacco and whiskey punch
Biddy O'Brien began to cry, "Such a nice clean corpse, did you ever see,
Tim avourneen, why did you die?", "Will ye hould your gob?" said Paddy McGee

Whack fol the dah now dance to yer partner around the flure yer trotters shake
Wasn't it the truth I told you? Lots of fun at Finnegan's Wake

Then Maggie O'Connor took up the job, "Biddy" says she "you're wrong, I'm sure"
Biddy gave her a belt in the gob and left her sprawling on the floor
Then the war did soon engage, t'was woman to woman and man to man
Shillelagh law was all the rage and a row and a ruction soon began

Whack fol the dah now dance to yer partner around the flure yer trotters shake
Wasn't it the truth I told you? Lots of fun at Finnegan's Wake

Mickey Maloney ducked his head when a bucket of whiskey flew at him
It missed, and falling on the bed, the liquor scattered over Tim
Bedad he revives, see how he rises, Timothy rising from the bed
Saying "Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?"

Whack fol the dah now dance to yer partner around the flure yer trotters shake
Wasn't it the truth I told you? Lots of fun at Finnegan's Wake

Whack fol the dah now dance to yer partner around the flure yer trotters shake
Wasn't it the truth I told you? Lots of fun at Finnegan's Wake

i just can't be bothered (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:35 (ten years ago) link

http://www.ctb.ne.jp/~noodle/img/noodle_l_birthday.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link

happy birthday to you, nv.

estela, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

thank you, sorry about the failed thread title change

i just can't be bothered (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link

it's okay, i appreciated the effort, i forged ahead and had a blue slatternday anyway.

estela, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link

"a"

estela, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link

may the sprites of winter bear thee to thy mirth, nv

veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link

Happy birthday!

I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

happy bday noodly wave

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

Happy Birthday, Noodles. I think you're swell.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

thanks everybody :D

just pondering how i can have such a shitty shambolic life and still be such a great learning mentor, but maybe i'll work that out one day

shillelagh law (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

it's a good thing by the way. i feel composed and ever so slightly optimistic today, all things being equal

shillelagh law (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

tiocfaidh ár breithlá

tracked like on pirate bay (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

I echo what Darragh said.

Hope you have had a lovely day.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

glad tidings to you on your day of birth, noodie!! <3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

HB and yeah have a great day!

sleeve, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

happy birthday!

kinder, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0yT1_zMBwk

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Thursday, 12 December 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link

For many an hour I strayed through the maze of the forest, turning now to right and now to left, pacing slowly down long alleys of undergrowth, shadowy and chill, even under the midday sun, and halting beneath great oaks; lying on the short turf of a clearing where the faint sweet scent of wild roses came to me on the wind and mixed with the heavy perfume of the elder, whose mingled odour is like the odour of the room of the dead, a vapour of incense and corruption.

we live in a less odoriferous world don't we? maybe when there's nothing left to smell then history will really be over

wee knights of the round table (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 December 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link

Posted manys the pic of that world iirc, tho with added salt.

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

yeah the nature side of that world exists for sure in a bunch of places, I was thinking of the metaphors Machen uses there - "a vapour of incense and corruption", i don't know how much that calls to my memory so much as my imagination

wee knights of the round table (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 December 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

tho i can remember smells associated with my grandparents' homes. what i remember from my own childhood home was you could tell if a stranger - usually the TV repairman tbh - had been in because it smelt a bit like smoke and outsiderness

wee knights of the round table (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 December 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

i've been reading a lot about letting go - the need for it, how to do it. a lot of Buddhist-ish pieces. some unhelpful lists. a lot of unhelpful tbh.

i know i shd've started to let go. i know i shd let go. i might've started to. i don't really want to. i probably need to. probably. no, i know i need to.

letting go is like not being depressed. all you have to do is think about something else. divert yourself. forget what you care about. i'm getting good at half of this game. i turn up to work and most days i do a lot of stuff. i got a routine. i am useful.

the letting go i'm not so good at yet. 2 fucking years, that's not good, i shd've made a start by now. if i wasn't such a recidivist, or a navel-gazer, or a stone. i read all the right words about how to place things in a context and accept them for what they were. i think i know the difference between my curdled regrets and reality.

if i'd've cared half this much towards the end then maybe the end would never have happened.

so shamefully i wonder why it's getting worse, why i want it to be worse, why the dreams get more frequent, why the simple fact of buying a christmas present sets me reeling like 16 year-old idiot crush boy me. why i keep wondering what you're doing now and how you managed to cut me out so well.

last week i told myself i was marching forward into the possible like Kung Fu. this week i'm chasing every transparent hope like floaters in the corner of my eye knowing they're not really there but. and by typing out these shadowy feelings i get to pin them down, and watch them stop wriggling, and watch them die. a little.

when a man splains a woman (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 09:19 (ten years ago) link

lol i need to dig out some Lacan and take a cold look at myself

or better yet shut up and do my bloody nvq, i really can't get in the headspace for that. just realised i can't write nvq without writing nv oh the ironing

when a man splains a woman (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 09:32 (ten years ago) link

thread titles that are already admissions of defeat

when a man splains a woman (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 09:32 (ten years ago) link

i want to say so many things but they all sound corny

but I don't think that you would be you if you were already over it and moved on. y'know. you can only do as much as you will allow yourself to, and I think it's slow going because you need it that way, maybe you're not ready to let go completely yet. it's not wrong to feel that way. it fucks things up royally sure, but as long as you keep trying, even when you slip, eventually you'll find some peace.

<3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

I want to too! Mostly though I would like to give Jim a very big hug.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

Read earlier and didnt think anything to say would help, but yknow. luck.

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link

if i'd've cared half this much towards the end then maybe the end would never have happened.

terrible & destructive thought & i urge you slay it with the knowledge that you cared as much as you did for good reasons

VENIET IMBER (imago), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

Sr vague do you like it when ppl tell you keep your pecker up

Cause I do, it is my favourite iteration of such advice. Pecker. Excellent.

deeja entendu (wins), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

Has your pecker ever been photographed?

VENIET IMBER (imago), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

^^^originator of 'because of the wang'

VENIET IMBER (imago), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

wait wait

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

keep your pecker up is a saying?

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

lol

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

my dad calls people peckerheads

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

Dander, always dander.

Chin was ok til mine disappeared and i started to avoid refs as a general rule

Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

No it's a crap thing to say unless you say pecker because who doesn't like pecker

deeja entendu (wins), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

the letting go i'm not so good at yet. 2 fucking years, that's not good, i shd've made a start by now.

If important thoughts/growth/being time/things have happened for you over those 2 years, then that was a necessary use of the time.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

here's to a less blue new year

the ex wanted to "talk" last night and i encouraged him because he seemed wistful and i suppose i was vainly (in all senses) fishing for compliments or apologies, except it turned into a long list of the mistakes i made and the signs i missed. or ~ cbt mode on ~ maybe that is just my interpretation.

now he is out all day for his new lady's birthday and i am left here being uselessly regretful on a grey rainy day when all the shops are shut and there's nowhere to go and why do i do this

just venting, sorry to do it here

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:19 (ten years ago) link

don't be daft, here is the place

New Year's Day is like an extra Sunday slapped down in the middle of the week

The Zinger Not the Zung (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link

gonna adopt a Muppet-based counselling system for 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yaP_kc3y9w

The Zinger Not the Zung (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:28 (ten years ago) link

Jesus christ what an ass

Death on the Nile (1978) has made me more sure than ever that the world is a dangerous place populated by lunatic stereotypes. But i am admittedly delicate frame of mind jist nae

Jesus christ tho what an ass

i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:29 (ten years ago) link

Now for a nightmare world of church, fascist and societal oppression, set to music. Ach my head.

i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link

xxp right, and whereas most Sundays you only need to ruminate on one past week and dread one future week at a time, for this bonus Sunday you get to do it for entire years or lifetimes at a time

to state the obvious, fuck that noise

un-xxp Muppets otm, good luck darragh

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:32 (ten years ago) link

xp

wasnae sure if that was about The Sound of Music or Ireland for a second there

The Zinger Not the Zung (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:32 (ten years ago) link

ah sweet, the Herzog verzh of Bad Lieutenant's on tonight

The Zinger Not the Zung (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link

Well i think my background in one feeds my trepidation twards t'other

APS in all seriousness all the best but cbt bedamned that is intolerable behaviour imo and i dont care what else

i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link

xp watched that three times this year with unsuspecting compadres, reaction mixed but who cares rite

i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link

tbh in case i sounded saintly and put-upon i was trying a little to get the knife in back, but obv it didn't really work because who's the one who made the decision and who's the one who has other options now? right right

haven't seen BL, not sure i'm in quite the place today buuut

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link

today seems apt, i am gonna nurture my inner Bad Lieutenant in 2014

The Zinger Not the Zung (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link

also hell, it's not like fault mostly ever lies just one way, but rubbish behaviour is still rubbish behaviour

The Zinger Not the Zung (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link

oh it's on after my bedtime, not that that really means anything in this day and age. some other time

further to today as Sunday-of-the-year, ought to be doing the work I didn't do last year because I was in Friday-of-the-year mode, "eh I can catch up on all this over the break and come back fresh" (hah)

on the other hand I have about 6000 unplayed games after the Steam winter sale, which might be a more expansive head-filler, more able to block up all the cracks that unwanted thoughts creep through

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link

Jesus christ tho what an ass

Horreur! What are this disassociated lumps of (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link

Exams start on 6th btw but ive projects due too

i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link

I'd forgotten what a sadistic trick the post-Christmas exam is

darragh I have been enjoying the pictures on this property ad from your fine isle, a couple of them seem to indicate a slightly unusual living arrangement: http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=447453

HNY in orbit

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link

Argh, sorry to hear that, Spacecadet. In my experience, "talking after the fact" really isn't helpful for understanding what went wrong, and should be avoided on any level except "here are your things, pls can have my things" until possibly a year after the breakup. At least. There's that whole "but I neeeeeed clooooosure thing!!!!" which never really is, and is often only a chance to re-open stuff that was starting to heal.

However, I just kinda have to say... um, mileage may vary, but isn't "new ladyfriend" etc kind of stuff that really should wait until *after* you have definitely completely stopped living together? I mean, it sucks when you get stuck living together months after the breakup, but really. I don't know who initiated the breakup, but in my world, bringing a third party into that kind of awful situation is bad news all round, and reflects really badly on the person bringing a third person into an already awful situation. Sorry, just my 2p. I don't know your situation, but I would not be OK with that.

Not feeling very celebratory myself at the mo for various reasons, but yeah. My life is a month of Sundays right now, so what's one more.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link

At least there's coffee.

Horreur! What are this disassociated lumps of (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link

Take care BB. I know you're right, as i.o. was right several months ago too, and I am a terrible one for not doing the things I ought to. I tend to get carried away with useful thoughts of positive steps and build up an impossible fantasy of how I'll suddenly start doing all these amazing things and also, oh, effectively become someone else entirely, and then I file it all away in the "so not gonna happen" part of my brain, and go back to doing everything exactly like before.

I wished I could've sent you the sea I was reluctantly staying near over Christmas. Only Dorset but I saw a (small) sea arch (from a great distance) and thought of you.

At least there are reduced-to-clear Polish cherry jaffa cakes.

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link

I don't want you to be someone else entirely, would miss the current you tbh. Your living sitch is basically a cancer tho. Get shut of him.

Horreur! What are this disassociated lumps of (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

cherry jaffa cakes is a pretty decent consolation.

also what BB and io said re: washing that man right out of yr hair

The Zinger Not the Zung (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

In best Auntie Orbit style, pls consider that I have stroked your hair and called you "sweetie" and given you a speech about how things get warped from living w unhappiness and that lots of the perceptions that come from those times aren't the kind of "real" you want to hold onto. I am of course totally unqualified to dispense lyfe advice but that's never stopped me before so onward 2014.

Horreur! What are this disassociated lumps of (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

(Dorset/hair-washing threads converge in sudden need to hear "Sheela-Na-Gig" by PJ Harvey, loud, on repeat)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

A sea arch! Awesomeness! I'm so jealous.

Echoing what IO said: I don't want you to become a new person! How disorienting would that be! I want you to stay your own thoughtful self. But "your own thoughtful self in a non poisonous situation" would be a far preferable option. It's tough to get up the courage to do this huge revamp-your-life type decision. It seems like an almost impossible set of individual impossible things that together are in-the-realm-of-fantasy to overcome them. But, y'know, changing one little thing at a time is in the realm of scary-but-not-total-fantasy. And from experience, I know that once you have surmounted the seemingly insurmountable things, it's so much better on the other side, that you will say to yourself "why the hell didn't I do that thing months/years ago, it looks so easy from this side!" But, you do things when you are ready to do them, and not before.

(Says a woman who spent 4 fucking months getting up the courage to ring the boiler engineers, during the worst winter of 100 years or whatever, because: crippling social anxiety. So who am I to talk about not living in impossible situations that are making things worse? But really, things got so much better after I rang the boiler people and they sent someone, that I could not believe it had taken me so long and so much pain (literal pain, of freezing showers in February!) to do it. Except, yeah, I can still see the whole reasoning of why I couldn't. And though I can laugh at it now, the actual crazy-logic, wow, winter is still cold and my flat still has damp, but it is so much better with a boiler!)

But yeah. Sea arches. I am also being jealous of cherry jaffa cakes but then I just remembered that I have ginger biscuits. Oh yeah. Chocolate covered stem gingers.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

Are those Sainsburys Taste the Difference, because they are the best

kinder, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link

Sainsburys Taste the Difference all butter Belgian Dark Chocolate Coated Stem Ginger Cookies, oh yes! The actual gold standard of chocolate covered ginger biscuits.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link

Huh, I'm the only person in my department in work (there was supposed to be one other person today but they're off sick; my boss is working, but from home). Head so full of useless thoughts and no distractions. Well, y'know, except the vague obligation of looking at some work tasks I don't really feel capable of understanding.

Good practice for how it'll be at home if I get him to leave, I suppose. There is contemplatively wistful techno on headphones for either situation.

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 2 January 2014 09:39 (ten years ago) link

Nobody round here either ive just nipped into an empty office for a nap cye in forty odd

i kid because i glove (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 January 2014 09:54 (ten years ago) link

IIRC, this time of year is good for all those tasks that are too boring to do at any other point. Alphabetising the clutter of manuals that hang round the office filling up bookshelves. Re-indexing tables. Updating schematics and the outdated instruction manuals/documentation that no one ever reads but they give the new people when they arrive.

Feeling quite astonished because I actually seem to have defused resolved a potentially rather nasty situation with new neighbours in a completely friendly and super-positive way. I'm not sure when I acquired social skills, but it seems to have worked. Also, they come across as actual Good Ppl which is such a relief after the last lot. (It was totally Not Their Fault; estate agents are lying bastards.)

Spacecadet, I'm sure this has crossed your mind many times, but I'm going to stand on the shoulder where the good angel usually resides: if you cannot "get" him to leave, it is an intensely freeing thing to pack up your belongings and remove them and yourself. Yes, it sucks when it feels like "they get to keep your flat" but OTOH, you will then be living in a new flat without old memories and old pain, where you are free to indulge wistful techno only because you want to.

Branwell Bell, Thursday, 2 January 2014 10:18 (ten years ago) link

i begin to see it as a mission to re-occupy crevices of time in the edifice of wage slavery

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link

the nature of these slices of time circumscribes the uses to which they can be put - a para of Marx here, a Taoist epigram there, football tactics, ILX just to plug in to some idea of a world outside this institution

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 09:25 (ten years ago) link

It's now proper January and I should be updating my CV and starting to look at finding another job but I just can't face it, and an already apocalyptic family situation has just exploded (again) and really. At what point are you just allowed to say "fuck this world" and turn your back on it permanently?

Sorry, I am having a serious failing in the "keeping it positive" circuit right now.

Branwell Bell, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 09:30 (ten years ago) link

:(

i think turning your back permanently shd always be around as a viable option. i just personally keep finding the struggle is worthwhile, just about.

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 12:06 (ten years ago) link

i'm sticking this post of Matt's here because i just found it and i want to come back and think long on it later and maybe even it deserves its own thread but for now just a reminder to think about it

i think that social power is kind of like this free radical rn and it's harder than ever to talk about because it's so decentralized and maybe not as officially directed along gender pathways as it used to be, but it's still structuring desire and our bodies and stretching young people too far (abuse) and generally doing what it does to sustain itself more than ever. feel like it can be generally difficult for someone who has been stretched too far to relate to someone who hasn't, like i feel hyper-aware of/freaked out by power dynamics in the smallest social moments you can possibly measure while my partner generally moves between places along that spectrum with what seems to be minimal effort and cognitive dissonance. he doesn't seem to feel the kind of existential dread i do whenever i locate myself in a social moment.

i think where i see a potential issue with polly's response is that accepting flaws, specifically the poisonous stuff, shouldn't be conflated with falling back down into that behavior and using it again as a point of power, i.e. this is just me you'll just have to accept who i am, and if you're with someone who is also prone to codependency, there you are. there's something weird, almost out-of-body about locating the place deep within your neural pathways or wherever where the impulse to blame and judge just sort of bloom out of, this structure that makes up your desire and a lot of other habitual parts of you, and then just like trying to undo it by letting it happen in a contained sort of way, watching it from the outside and not being "in" it. i find myself being quiet a lot of the time, trying not to feel anything but slightly disoriented about the fact that i have this wiring that i don't want, and then like, giving myself gentle pets and soothing talk and shit like that.

― From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Friday, 3 January 2014 22:47 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 08:39 (ten years ago) link

because i guess i am in this nexus now between feeling lumpen and asocial and also being stuck in this set of real life shit that needs to be done just to make tomorrow and tomorrow happen (and lol at me saying this whilst side-stepping chores for a few minutes) and being aware of at least the possibilities of taking steps to make my life more like i want it but running up against what seem to be hard social constraints that are also tied in with hard personal constraints that are also, i don't know, dust bunnies of the mind

not all of which is related to what Matt says there but lots of it is in lots of ways and i'm obfuscating partly out of character and partly out of not being sure exactly what i'm thinking. i guess in short i'm finally coming round to the idea that i'm a single person and i'm fairly sure that i'd like to start (dating?) i dunno i don't have comfortable words really - seeing somebody, having some kind of romantic or sexual relationship where i'm using a pretty broad definition of the words romantic or sexual; but these feelings and ideas bring up all sorts of complicated shit for me - not least of which is that it feels kinda wrong to want those things in the abstract, like there shd be a person to attach those feelings too before i just go hunting for a companion, but recognizing that's not necessarily true

and then all the recognition of my past and current failings and that kind of self-criticism about what do i even have of worth to offer somebody, and that creep into an economic-esque language of interaction that feels wrong to me too, plus the recognition of my own internal judgements, even the ones i don't want to own, "this wiring that i don't want"

p-r-e-v-a-r-i-c-a-t-i-o-n

overthinking everythink and not trusting people who tell us not to overthink

to some extent this internal audit is good, like coming back to life, coming out of a worse way of being, but on a ton of other levels there's just frustration and maybe the fear of getting swallowed by my own navel.

thoughts, oh boy

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 08:57 (ten years ago) link

Where is that quote from? I don't think I understand it out of context. Though the situations it describes sound kind of familiar.

About the "thinking you want to start dating but feel bad about these feelings without someone to attach them to" thing... oh, sweetie, don't feel bad about that. That's just deep level human wiring of some kind. That most people (well, except aromantics, so not all, obviously) do feel a loneliness, a "skin hunger", a desire for a partner of some kind, even without the stimulus of another human being to wrap those feelings round. It's a very fundamental craving on an instinct level, it's how most humans work, how evolution or whatever binds together what is essentially a social animal.

Although it's ideal that one should find a person one mutually likes, and then negotiate a relationship with them - in many ways it's worse when you have a person onto whom you have projected all your knotty tangle of desire and skin hunger and loneliness and instinct-level stuff, because then they have to live with the weight of it.

Me, I've pulled totally back into my shell. I'm sick of getting hurt by fools who don't understand what I'm asking for, even when I ask for it directly, so they just project their whole knotty-tangle onto me. I'm feeling kinda "done" with humanity right now, and want to just lock myself in my flat until the money runs out, so I probably shouldn't even try to give advice. But I'm not even giving advice, I'm just saying, I'm here, and I'm listening, even when I don't understand.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 10:31 (ten years ago) link

Matt's quote is from the dating thread and related to stuff about social power relationships and the way they channel desire, the negotiations between two people within and without a relationship, and worse i guess the unspoken negotiations, the will to shape another person to fit our own desires even at an unconscious or - i think? - conscious but rejected-by-ourselves level. i'm speaking for somebody else here so all i'm talking about is the recognitions it sparked in me, not claiming this is what he meant at all or absolutely.

and in broad general terms we don't think about this stuff so much when we're younger. and that has a lot of negative effects, because we don't examine our conduct and motivations so much, we don't express our desires and therefore maybe we don't fully understand our desires, we take other people for granted, this is all part of immaturity and it's ok as long as you can grow beyond it. and the up-side is for many people that relationships can form in this magical glow of spontaneity that may or mayn't be real but looks a lot like romantic fiction and carries the same (sometime) happy glow.

but as you get older ime that spontaneity becomes a lot less possible, and THIS IS NOT A BAD THING i don't think, but it's sometimes a regretful thing because it's possible to mistake that spontaneity for the only authentic kind of emotional attachment, and if you get very hung up on that idea i think it might prevent you from moving past immaturity, but there are down-sides because practically it just becomes more difficult to meet emotionally available people who are age-appropriate or at a similar place instead of expressing/understanding their own desires. at the same time that there's more possibility to be honest with yourself and others there are just less people accessible.

and so i find myself thinking more about these processes which is very positive i think, but in analyzing my own desire i find these "wired" parts of me - libido, whatever - that is v. hard to reprogram or to lie to. i go to a site like OkCupid and think about the analogies with shopping and it makes me wanna never get into the searching-for-a-date game but at the same time i recognize that there aren't many (any) real life social spaces for people my age to appropriately use for meeting potential partners

i'm writing in the spirit of enquiry, not anguish, and i'm trying not to generalize too much from my own specific situation/experience. but it feels, on the whole, positive that i can start to articulate this stuff to myself and then that positivity alternates with frustration at the absence of practical possibilities and some darker stuff at "how do we honestly negotiate our (attractiveness) value to other people at the same time as we're evaluating other people's (superficial) attractiveness to us?"

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 11:37 (ten years ago) link

for one part of this, really i don't think i'm looking for the next great love of my life right now, it wd be nice to have some low seriousness dates, but that just seems way less possible at 45 than it did at 25 (had i been single at 25)

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 11:47 (ten years ago) link

(I think that might be from a 77 thread?)

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 11:59 (ten years ago) link

in that case oops see y'all in 30 days

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 11:59 (ten years ago) link

ach god it is, never think to check. if anybody has a problem with me pasting that here then please get a mod to remove it. sorry.

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:00 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, feel like a snitch now, but I was searching for the context because I was interested in the conversation, it looked thoughtful and good, and it didn't turn up on a search, coz, duh, I am not on 77. Sorry again.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:05 (ten years ago) link

nah it's a good job you pointed it out

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:07 (ten years ago) link

ime it's a v positive thing that you're hitting this thoughtzone/space/whatever NV

i'd veer towards less 'taking on agency for the object of my desires' (such object to exist or otherwise at this stage) obv imma say yr overthinking it, but that's ok you'll obv discount that as you see fit (as you note)

no experience of yr situation, deeply mistrustful of okc-type market, glibly certain that there exists more opportunity to meet people otherwise than going down that route, glibly unable to suggest what those opportunities are

g'luck

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:16 (ten years ago) link

now if you'll pardon me this half-adder won't mis-explain itself in 2 hours

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:16 (ten years ago) link

people say "go out to clubs or other social activities to meet more people" which yes fine BUT imo you're supposed to go to those things cos you're interested in what they're about, not to pursue yr libidinousness agenda

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link

to what extent is that even true, i wondered

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link

it doesn't really matter is the obv answer i guess. i wd suggest to you tho that yr lack of immediate alternatives to OKC - which, don't get me wrong, seems pretty unuseful to me - makes some kind of point

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:37 (ten years ago) link

hey.....there's always work amirite

lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:52 (ten years ago) link

one of the things my new-found self awareness has picked up is how little eye contact i make with people at work and i get on reasonably well with almost all of them.

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 12:55 (ten years ago) link

Noodles, here is a comic you may find relevant to your interests:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/masonicboomk8/10908943173/in/photostream/

The thing is, it's commonly told to older people of all genders, "take a class or join a club to meet people" and yes, the ideas of "interested in these things" and "meeting people" are inherent in the incentives for many if not most of the people who do such activities. The only important things to remember are: 1) "meeting people" involves many different kinds of relationships, not all of them romantic/sexual and 2) even "wants to meet someone for dating/romance/companionships" is not always synonymous with "wants to meet you for dating/romance/companionship".

Number 2 is the one that really hurts, but it also happens on market-ised dating malls like OKC, too.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 13:58 (ten years ago) link

that is all v. otm and was definitely in my thoughts even when i didn't recognise it :)

yeah, it's the notion of having an ulterior motive for doing stuff that bugs me, i don't wanna have an ulterior motive, i go to Philosophy Club cos i am interested in Philosophy, sometimes people are chatty and interesting there and sometimes not. what i really want is Date Club except for olds like me who do not belong in regular noisy frenetic society

Emilia Fabbo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 14:05 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I kinda want that too. But for saucy lesbians and genderqueer persons. Which is far too specific an ask, and even if I could, it would probably turn into a geriatric DOMO in 30 seconds flat, and ugh.

What is the opposite of ulterior? Overt? I think overt motives are fine. It's covering it all up with ulterior-ness which makes it icky, not the motives in the first place.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link

singing "We Want Rum" in my head to the Andrew WK tune, failing that wd settle for a few hours sit-down time with FM2014, or a walk in the sunshine, or a nap and a movie not necessarily in that order or indeed consecutively, or i dunno just not work, i'm full of good will and good intentions it's just come on, this is far from rad

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 January 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link

i need to make a game of this in my head

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 January 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link

stealth employee

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 January 2014 09:18 (ten years ago) link

actually just some proper for real coffee might do the job, or hallucinogens

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 January 2014 09:19 (ten years ago) link

Monday the 13th is the real evil here. I'll put the percolatorix on, make some hallucinogen-grade coffee for you. Send it down the Interpipes 2 U.

Branwell Bell, Monday, 13 January 2014 09:37 (ten years ago) link

Challenge yrself to pass for motivated just for the craic

is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Monday, 13 January 2014 09:38 (ten years ago) link

have reached warp factor "adequately engaged"

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 January 2014 11:39 (ten years ago) link

Im in my last week here and have an exam on thurs my inner scotty is locked in the engine room with two pints of bells and ten broons annuals

is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Monday, 13 January 2014 11:50 (ten years ago) link

trying to forget there's more to life than completing NVQ modules and monitoring staff absence

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 January 2014 11:55 (ten years ago) link

noodle vague questionnaires

is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Monday, 13 January 2014 11:59 (ten years ago) link

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lolz

is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Monday, 13 January 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

clownish

I'd forgotten what a sadistic trick the post-Christmas exam is

darragh I have been enjoying the pictures on this property ad from your fine isle, a couple of them seem to indicate a slightly unusual living arrangement: http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=447453

HNY in orbit

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is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Monday, 13 January 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

Well, this started out as a pretty OK Saturday afternoon, with a nice walk down to Pollards Hill, and a great view past Croydon to the North Downs.

And it has just turned into the bluest Saturday and I don't even know how to get it back.

NV, do you remember a very long time ago, when I was having a shit day at the bottom of an ILX clusterfuck, and I can't remember the exact words you used, but you told me something like, "why do you get so upset by what people say about you on ILX? No one on the internet really knows anything about each other, it cartoonifies and really, fuck whatever a cartoon character thinks about you." or words to that effect.

That was really wise advice, though it took me forever to understand it. I wish I listened to it more. But the problem is, when people have drawn a cartoon monster around your head, and then start acting as if that monster was real, and that monster was *you*, they start reading every damn thing you say as if you were that cartoon monster. It really doesn't matter how you act, if you act nice or mean or funny or intelligent, or some just-human combination of the above; if people are determined to see a cartoon monster instead of you, all they are going to see is the monster. I know it's not a judgement on me, as you said to me before. It's a judgement on a cartoon monster. But that doesn't stop it from hurting if you are already predisposed to see yourself as a monster. Insults only hurt if you secretly believe that they are true.

OK, this doesn't seem to be doing me any good. But I just wanted to say that those were kind and wise words, and I don't know that I ever thanked you for them. But I'm doing that now. Thanks.

you're still in love with me and you don't know why (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link

So after the complete emotional blindsiding of yesterday, today I seem to have to have come down with some illness and wondering if that sudden emotional vulnerability was down to incipient illness and low body = low mood, rather than ILX being any more cruel than usual. (I've come to view ILX like weather, there is always someone or other prepared to be cruel, it's a question of whether I feel strong enough to cope with/ignore it.)

Sometimes I get this delusion where I think there's some secret code whereby if you crack it, and say the right things and display the right emotions, you can access that level of mutual support and understanding and acceptance that many, many people on ILX (and elsewhere) seem willing to show and exchange with one another. But... there is no secret code. There is no access level. It's not there are some people inside and some people outside, it's that there is no inside/outside. Some people can ask for sympathy and receive it, and some people cannot. It's just another of life's brutal unfairnesses, which is simply to be accepted, rather than puzzled over and worked out.

A good weekend to anyone that wishes my wishes for one.

you're still in love with me and you don't know why (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 19 January 2014 09:58 (ten years ago) link

I would suggest...logging out. its just a messageboard.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 19 January 2014 10:07 (ten years ago) link

When people say to me "it's just a messageboard" or "it's just a phone" or "it's just a community of people" or other things, that indicates to me that they do not understand the nature of humans, or the nature of human communications.

If the problem is disconnection and alienation (and yes, loneliness and feeling intensely misunderstood) then switching off merely the *source* of communication is not going to make those problems go away. It may in fact make those feelings worse, since all communication (including those that might relieve those feelings) is now gone.

But, thanks for trying to be helpful.

you're still in love with me and you don't know why (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 19 January 2014 10:13 (ten years ago) link

ilx is too big and unwieldy to be consistent. it's the law of the jungle, like you learn in any werner herzog movie. no matter how warm and fuzzy you think the grizzly bears are, at the end of the day humans are nothing more than bear food. don't overanalyze it.

Esa-Pekka Merkerson (get bent), Sunday, 19 January 2014 10:16 (ten years ago) link

I suppose you're right, GB. It's naive of me to be an optimist. Sometimes all of us play the human, sometimes all of us play the bear, I guess.

But now I am laughing at the idea of grizzly bears posting to ILX and wondering how they get their massive paws on the keys and laughing, so thank you for the image!

I'm going to make a goats cheese omelette now.

you're still in love with me and you don't know why (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 19 January 2014 10:32 (ten years ago) link

hey BB thanks for your thanks, it actually means more than you might think it shd, coming from a cartoon :-)

i know i can't know the flavour of your disconnection and alienation, but i think i know pretty well how those things feel. and i hope you can remind yrself sometimes that the you that "secretly believes" insults levelled against you are true is in many ways not you, but a voice from outside that we learn to let in and make home and mistake four ourself

i dunno dude. some people just say horrible shit sometimes cos it's easy and life-affirming. not everybody feels that way, and most people don't feel that way themselves most of the time. i wish i had some pat bullshit Facebook meme to end this with a hug and send you on your way but i don't. so i just wanna wish you a big internet-distanced hug and remind you of all the strength that you do have inside yrself and hope that you can be yrself and keep on grooving and find your path

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 January 2014 10:40 (ten years ago) link

NV, you are a beautiful human being - and this is one of those things that makes you such an excellent creature: the willingness to admit that you cannot understand the flavour of a person's pain, yet, still, the acknowledgement that the pain is there, and express empathy with it. Bear hugs (but not grizzly bear hugs because mind those paws) received, and returned with gratitude.

Captain Awkward has a great phrase for that part of you that secretly believes the internalised insults are true - they call it Jerkbrain. It's doubly disconcerting to see jerkbrain statements coming from the mouth of another person. But of course, that's how it works. Those jerkbrain statements came from outside to start with. When I start trying to explain and justify my very existence, instead of just saying "thanks for your opinion, good day to you" it's wrestling with a shadow self that happens to be wearing someone else's face as a mask.

Right. Now I need to hoover and clean the house and prepare another place to sit because tomorrow I'm having a visit from one of my favourite people in the whole world so I should try to tame the dust.

Thanks for the hugs, NV, and thanks again for the advice and the general awesomeness.

you're still in love with me and you don't know why (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 19 January 2014 12:21 (ten years ago) link

The endless minuet of humiliation and its response gives human relationships an obscene hobbling rhythm. In the ebb and flow of the crowds sucked in and crushed together by the coming and going of suburban trains, and coughed out into streets, offices, factories, there is nothing but timid retreats, brutal attacks, smirking faces and scratches delivered for no apparent reason. Soured by unwanted encounters, wine turns to vinegar in the mouth. Innocent and good-natured crowds? What a laugh! Look how they bristle up, threaten on every side, clumsy and embarrassed in the enemy's territory, far, very far from themselves. Lacking knives, they learn to use their elbows and their eyes.

me irl

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 08:47 (ten years ago) link

even when i want to be a tolerably adequate employee i find myself overcome by anxiety, sleepiness. what's that all about?

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 08:48 (ten years ago) link

prefer to do all my writing in pencil nowadays, think this might have something to do with provisionality

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:09 (ten years ago) link

What is that from?

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:12 (ten years ago) link

reading back the top of this thread is like a reminder of all the ways i fcuked my relationships up so that is useful.

i am trying to find words to explain the particularly depressingness of the management texts i am reading, the way business literature (what's the proper word for that? it's gone) tries to read like scientific analysis but always stands on the sand of "Bolinger and Dickwad (1985) divided management styles up into 13 categories based on the everyday household objects they noticed when staring round the room trying to make this shit up. Meanwhile Hausfrau (1989) discovered that life is like a box of chocolates."

xp Raoul Vaneigem, The Revolution of Everyday Life, my erstwhile Bible/map of reality

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:16 (ten years ago) link

http://library.nothingness.org/articles/SI/en/pub_contents/5

every workplace shd have one

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link

i'm just peeved cos i went to bed at 10 last night and i should not be this weary dammit

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:18 (ten years ago) link

Truly, there is no bullshit like management speak bullshit. It's kinda half ~SCIENCE!!!!11~ and half this pseudo-mystical power of positive thinking fake actualisation prose. Avoid, avoid.

I sometimes think tiredness is situational. Like, if you are always tired on the morning train because you're usually exhausted, it doesn't matter if you've had enough sleep. Just being on that train and the reminder of exhaustion will make you exhausted. Either that, or a total lack of fresh air.

Instead of just one of my favourite people in the world coming round today, I now have 2 people coming round; also a friend that person has been meaning to introduce me to! Which will be brilliant! Except I only have 2 chairs, and one of us will have to sit on the sofa. Argh.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:30 (ten years ago) link

"Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) analyzed the importance of seating arrangements in facilitating team synergy in their 1985 work 10 Hot Seating Plans for Management Efficacionalism"

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:34 (ten years ago) link

probably just still in sleep deficit and need a few more nights to catch up tbh, which is boring enough.

i got no desire to be a leader of anybody tbh but i can't afford to give this up right now, i only applied for this post cos i thought i could help improve the actual service

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:36 (ten years ago) link

I really wish sometimes that there were a magical sorting hat for "people who are ambitious and on their way To The Top" and "people who actually just want to Get Stuff Done" and the To The Top people could just be sent off to some management training island, which suffers a mysteriously malfunctioning ferry which can never bring them back and they can just stay out there getting more and more grand job titles and important sounding roles, and just leave the people who are there to Get Stuff Done alone to, y'know, get stuff done.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:40 (ten years ago) link

I mean, there's something to be said for management training that actually teaches people effective people skills, because people are difficult and perplexing and confusing. But honestly, if people skills could be taught from a book, we would have all read that book by now, and we would all have them. :-/

Ah, when the dreaded Sleep Debt becomes a Sleep Mortgage and you find yourself in permanent arrears. The upstairs neighbour that leaves the house at 7 manages to do it quietly enough, but the one that leaves at 8.30 is a total doorslammer so I never catch up.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:42 (ten years ago) link

My first bout of depression was at uni and before I even had any of the other symptoms I had a chronic inability to stay awake in morning lectures no matter when I'd gone to bed or how much sleep I'd had. Fast forward 2-3 years and I was sleeping 14 hours and physically unable to get up for a couple of hours after first waking, like the sheets were lead or an ever-shifting sea rearranging over me and I just couldn't lift them. Definitely some overlap between depression and sleep disorders imo

"Bolinger and Dickwad (1985) divided management styles up into 13 categories based on the everyday household objects they noticed when staring round the room trying to make this shit up."

good job I have the morning off cz I lolled at this in a manner which would have been hard to explain in the office. though I have skipped through a few psychology and self-help books lately and you'd think psychology->self-help->management-speak would form a continuum with SCIENCE at one end and cheese-moving at the other but it's not always easy to tell which you're looking at

anyway good luck NV, you'd be one of the good ones (also hi BB and best wishes)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link

Hi, Spacecadet!

I've actually been reading a great deal of research lately about sleep deprivation and mood disorders, and there's definitely a noted correlation, but which way causation runs is harder to establish. But yes, they are in some way linked.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Monday, 20 January 2014 09:56 (ten years ago) link

Could I just, I don't know, get bitten by a spider and wake up in 2015 with a different life?

beef in the new era (wins), Monday, 20 January 2014 10:41 (ten years ago) link

Everything seems to be going to shit all of a sudden and I can't see a way out but I'm reasonably certain that getting bitten by a spider would solve all my problems somehow

beef in the new era (wins), Monday, 20 January 2014 10:46 (ten years ago) link

this is what i call my "run away to the steppe and live in a yurt" approach to problem solving. it seems better than getting bitten but i know that feeling. keep telling (myself) just deal with one thing at a time

sleep and my wellbeing are intimately connected and at least since i've worked that out things have got a fair bit better. i'm just in the wrong job/life and constrained like the rest of us by the need to earn enough to keep a roof overhead and food in the fridge. constraint made a bit more insistent by having children but also a bit more bearable as result, for me.

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 11:06 (ten years ago) link

I am part of an induction in a conference room a desperate man with ridicuous hair is introducing himself by reeling off his cv highlights and its not good stuff and i feel for him but by next week ill hate him

gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Monday, 20 January 2014 11:23 (ten years ago) link

I feel like I am taking the "living in a yurt" or at least "not leaving the house until it all blows over" method right now, and I don't know that it really works at avoiding the general crap of life either. It just delays the problems, it doesn't solve them.

God I am nervous about having people round. I haven't had anyone round since Xmas and I am worrying that I've forgotten how to speak to people that aren't imaginary or living in a silver box on top of my lap.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Monday, 20 January 2014 11:43 (ten years ago) link

because i am doing my first team meeting in an age i have been panic attacking all morning, for no obvious reason. it better go away when i've finished.

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 January 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link

Good luck

When I get home I might try & stream the gravity/all is lost/leviathan trifecta, feeling that vibe atm: violently adrift in an uncaring universe. If I end with gravity I might even be cheered up, or I might be even more bummed because where is MY ghost buzz lightyear to give me a space peptalk & show me where the vodka is?*

*metaphorical vodka obv. SIGH.

bearing up is hard to do (wins), Monday, 20 January 2014 13:28 (ten years ago) link

Hmmm bring on the yurt. A large and growing percentage of my work responsibilities are triggering the "I'll never understand this stuff, if I ignore it will it go away?" response. (Yes, sometimes they do go away, but they always come back, is the thing.)

Guess I should try to pin the yawning panic down enough to fill in a thought record so at least I can have done my CBT homework if not my actual job.

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 11:12 (ten years ago) link

yeah and at least you'll look like you're doing something

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 11:16 (ten years ago) link

What did you used to do when there was stuff at work you didn't understand?

Because every job I've had has had a learning curve, some ferocious, some less so. And at the start there's always that yawning sense of "Oh god I will never understand that" followed by "oh wow this is starting to make some sense..." followed by "oh yes! I've cracked it! This is easy now! (or at least familiar)" So how did you get from A to B to C in the past? Reading manuals or "SQL for dummies" books? Looking stuff up on internet help forums? Talking to the other programmers and copying their crib sheets? Can you remember what you used to do, when swamped with impossible-new-stuff, and follow those same kinds of procedures?

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 11:18 (ten years ago) link

(Sorry, I guess I'm still following the "how can we make work not completely awful" script rather than the "work is pointless and we should abandon it" script. It's easy when you're not actually in work. Because right now I would just like a difficult task that someone assigned me that I could lose myself in, rather than staring at the internet and going "god, I should send some CVs out, huh.")

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 11:23 (ten years ago) link

I dunno, I used to pick up new programming languages on the job, you're right, and I have some work tasks looming which should totally just be a matter of reading a book and following the tutorials, except I keep not getting round to it.

I've also inherited a responsibility where I've read the how-to guide, I've been walked through the basics by the one guy here who understands it, I'm on the mailing list where other people's queries get solved and I still have no idea what any of the steps I copied and pasted meant or how it fits together. It just seems like a thing which will never fit in my head.

Unfortunately something related it to it broke this morning, not part of the walkthrough I was given but everyone knows that if That One Guy isn't here (he isn't, this week) I'm the only person he's explained any of it to.

I also have some tasks which are basically just tedious copy-paste-munge-copy-paste-wait-for-db-repeat tasks and there is no sensible reason why I haven't already done them except they're dull, longwinded and fiddly, I guess.

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 11:42 (ten years ago) link

Also "talking to the other programmers" oh god this gives me the fear. Having to admit I don't know things! Including things I should probably have known several years ago! This is a general fear I have but also the one programmer on our small team who's most likely to know the answer is, uh, a little too prone to go into shrieking fits of "nobody else does things properly round here"

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 11:46 (ten years ago) link

I really wish I could do your dull, longwinded and fiddly tasks for you right now. Because that is the mood I am in right now, it would be good to turn off the internet and put some soft techno on the headphones and do fiddly dull things until they are done. (My visitor from Orkney came. I gave her a sketch; she gave me a cold. So now I am just slightly too sick to go for a walk, but not sick enough to go to bed for the rest of the day.)

But that sucks, when you get saddled with Someone Else's Job, and the responsibility for it, and it goes Horribly Wrong when the Someone Else is not there to fix it. That's the kind of thing that used to make me feel worse than useless. (But also, conversely, if I did somehow find the right bit of code and fix it, my god, I felt so smart then, even if I had no idea what I did to get it running again.)

((And as the person who used to be the "shrieking fits of nobody else does this properly" all I can say is, this usually comes from a place of stress and having to sort out other people's clumsy attempts to fix things which make things worse, argh, it is not a fun place to be, though maybe not as awful as being shrieked at. Though "how do I NOT do this wrong, oh gracious smart-person, I am not worthy etc..." can be a way of heading off the shrieking.))

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 11:53 (ten years ago) link

But another tip, I remember from dealing with programmers, is that if you have forgotten something you should have known, the one thing programmers love is proving their own smartness. So if you frame it either as "Haha, I have this really fun programming quiz, who here can get a perfect score?" and throw in things you should know but don't, and they will all fall over themselves to give the right answer.

Also "I used to know this, but I have forgotten, argh, my brain is too full of other things... your memory is much better than mine, do you remember?" is better than admitting that you never learned it in the first place. *lays finger aside of nose*

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 11:59 (ten years ago) link

I should get going on the tedious busywork myself but I wish I could farm out understanding the complicated things to you and then download the knowledge from your brain afterwards.

I don't mind said coworker when she's not personally offended by or making veiled digs about my work and/or inability to keep up with best practices, and I do wish I knew as much as her; I'm just super-wary of asking her anything. You're right, flattery and feigning a sudden urge for self-improvement often work, but even the calm explanations take longer than I can spare and impart not much information except "look, I know acronyms and like making graphs!"

Yeah "ha ha I have forgotten, you are good at not forgetting" is a good trick, I'll try that. Have harboured many urges to incinerate brogrammers whose preferred technique is "who would be so nerdy to even want to know that boring shit [flexes gymrat arms]" but to my bemusement everyone else seems to find that kind of schtick ruggedly charming so what do I know.

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 12:17 (ten years ago) link

Ugh ugh, if you are infested with Brogrammers, I am so, so sorry. A pox on all of them and their protein drinks.

I am probably really really projecting onto Shrieking Woman, because I ended up becoming Shrieking Woman at my last job (and actually there totally were reasons for the shrieking, both work-related frustrations, but also the fact that I was at that point having a nervous breakdown of some sort) - but... if I was going to project, based on what you've told me. When I would go for the "Look! I know acronyms and like making graphs!" aspect, it was because No One Ever Listened To What I Said! and I was really trying to establish that actually I did know what the fuck I was talking about (and the brogrammers really didn't - and also they were totally unwilling to learn from me, because I was a Woman, and women are incapable of knowing what it's like to program, even when they had actually written large chunks of the system that they were supposed to be working on etc, blah blah.)

So it may be that the shrieking and the going off on unhelpful tangents is actually because she is trying to establish her credentials in a world of brogrammers?

For me, if anyone asked me "how do you do your job" I would start out on this whole defensive spiel about how I was actually qualified to do my job. Which is helping no one. But when I actually had to teach someone How To Do A Thing, it was much easier and more effective to sit down and say "Right, I'm going to do the thing, and explain what I'm doing, and you're going to take notes. Then we're going to switch places and you are going to do the thing from your notes/or my instructions, until you have proved to me that you can do the thing, too."

It's weird; I always believed I had No People Skills at all, but this is one of the things that therapy has taught me: that actually I have pretty OK people skills, for the appropriate situations I normally find myself dealing with: I have the kind of people skills appropriate for IT Departments. IT Nerds respond to a different kind of flattery: we really like to be made to feel *clever*. The most effective way to get an IT Nerd to like you is not always to prove that *you* are clever, but to get *them* to feel clever. (Also usefulness, but I'm p sure we have talked about this before on another thread: IT Nerds don't care so much about money, status, power, rank, etc, we care about one question: Do you make my job easier, or do you make my job harder? If you want to motivate them to do something for you, convince them that you will make their job easier. This works better as a show don't tell thing, though.)

Aaaah, I am blustering now and not being very helpful at all, I'm sorry if I've started grandstanding. I guess, Spacecadet, you are actually helping me, by reminding me of the bits of my jobs that I really do like. (Fixing things! Learning new programming skillX0rs) And I'm trying to talk myself up to going back into it, and dealing with all that stuff again.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 13:15 (ten years ago) link

Right now, I totally want to become a freelance consultant and figure out other people's complicated things for them, then go back and explain how to make it easier. This is my dream right now. I don't know if it's a more realisable dream than "no more brogrammers. ever."

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, I forgot to reply because other things kept breaking.

No, my current job is fairly brogrammer-proof (being in a library) but we did have one. He left (hooray) for a better-paid job (ah, jealousy). She liked him though, partly because he actually did take up all the working methods she suggested and partly because she's always conspicuously more interested in showing youngish male colleagues how she gets it, does things right, can show them the ropes, etc. A fairly pragmatic decision, I suppose, but a little more solidarity might be nice sometimes...

Well, I wrote my thought record, except for the bit at the bottom marked "action plan for next time". Ha, so like me not to engage with the idea of doing any actions. Will probably be told off, again.

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link

Ugh, one of those, then? Had one of those at my last job: women who think that young men need to be coddled and placated and fussed over, like hothouse flowers, while completely ignoring the women on the team, and in fact, not just taking the young men's side, always, but holding their damn hands through any disagreement with the other women on the team, because young men, like hothouse flowers, are always right, and even if they are wrong, they need to be ~protected~ from being told of their wrongness, because lord knows, they might actually learn something, or even clean up their own messes, instead of leaving it for other people, usually the women who are disagreeing with them, to do, all the time.

Haha, again, no, sorry, that's my last job, not yours at all. Guess I have a lot of unresolved feelings about that place, huh?

I would have a lot of trouble doing anything but giving the side eye to anything labelled an "Action Plan" but we've already established on the other thread, that I'm a Bad Influence and I mustn't talk to anyone about therapy because I will contaminate them with negativity, LOL. So I'll be Freudian about this instead. Maybe there's a part of you that actually likes being "told off"? Because it reinforces your view of yourself as slightly rubbish? Or maybe if you don't do the thing properly/completely, then if/when it fails to work, you can point at it, go "look, it didn't work, because I didn't do it properly, oh I'm so rubbish" and then there's something to blame for its success/failure which was an actual Thing You Did. Sorry, I'm not explaining this very well. "Look, I half-arsed it, and it didn't work (and I didn't really want to do it anyway)" is a lot easier to live with, in many ways, than "I threw myself at it 100% and it still didn't work, but I actually lost something through the trying" <- which is often the real fear that lurks behind consciously half-arseing something.

But I have no idea what I'm talking about, though, so don't listen to me.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:24 (ten years ago) link

fear of failure - lack of belief in the process - resentment of external factors to you - lack of ability at self-restoration - wrong kind of therapy

such a stew of possible reasons or contributions to stuff not working for us, and so much of it not really in our own control. had another Vaneigem quote i held back from yesterday, it's a bit brutal, but v. relevant:

In a fine passage of The Function of the Orgasm, Wilhelm Reich relates how after long months of psychoanalytic treatment he managed to cure a young Viennese working woman. She was suffering from depression brought on by the conditions of her life and work. When she was recovered Reich sent her back home. A fortnight later she killed herself.

failure to fit in, it's never just one party's fault :\

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:32 (ten years ago) link

have reduced the material conditions of contentment today to the prospect of buying some footwear that doesn't leak.

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:36 (ten years ago) link

I know this from myself, that it's one of my defence mechanisms - when there are a billion variables on something, most of them out of my control, then introducing another variable, called "I am half-arsing this" which is *totally* under my control, stops the whole thing being so scary and uncontrollable. It still fails, but at least I have a reason for the failure, that was under my control, therefore I don't feel so bad about it. I can point to that single controlled thing and go "a-ha! the real reason!"

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:42 (ten years ago) link

it's good to feel like you've got some control. we all do have some control i think. lately i've learned how not to get fired and how not to destroy my internal organs and i thought of that as being free from depression and to some extent that's v. true.

but then the big dark things that won't go away caught up with me again and reminded me that i can't make everything better, i can just work on my survival techniques, cultivate my inner rodent. and just the other night i got a blast of desolation and aloneness so bad i thought it was going to undo all the last months' work.

and i think this is partly cos i kidded myself i could be at home in the work world i inhabit, that i could accept it and be accepted by it and just fucking get on with it, you know, like all those other people do? (my boss's voice) - and that was v wrong, i need to remember i'm in an alien environment and i can't get comfortable and i have to concentrate if i'm gonna survive it

and how my brain/soul/id/inner Shiva got to me is to look at the people i love - my children - and feel vast chasms of space between them and me, feel lost to each other, feel gulfs of separation that are the reality of being in...this world, at the very least

"curing" myself maybe in the end might help me understand why i feel so lost but i don't think it has the power to take me home.

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:51 (ten years ago) link

or in short or to try to be clearer i am alone because i think i might be in hell and even the people who i feel closest to don't seem to be sharing the same existential space as me, and i don't think i want them to, but i think they might be stuck in their own hells too

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:53 (ten years ago) link

if i can break this down into Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats, i'm golden

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:55 (ten years ago) link

weaknesses ftw

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:56 (ten years ago) link

What you said to me earlier was really helpful, NV - that no human being can ever completely understand the true dimensions of another person's hell. But recognising that you're in hell, and they're also in a hell, and these hells are different but similar, that's a way of surmounting the vast distances between each other.

I kinda wanna say "strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats" - is that all you got? Is that *all*? Where are ecstasies and agonies and joys and devils and moments of transcendence? What kind of data analysis world is this? Reducing the world down to that is as point-missing as the dude on the OKC thread with his "clusters" of women that didn't get him any nearer a relationship because he didn't actually know how attraction and romantic chemistry even worked.

Work is an alien environment for everyone, I think. It's the inherent oddness of putting together strangers with a task to meet. It's rare and lucky to get a group of people that actually make you feel comfortable, and it can happen in the oddest places. But if you don't build a world of your own, and of your own choosing, outside work, you're doomed, dooooooomed. Putting a supportive community back together in the rest of your life is way, way, harder than finding a job you don't hate.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 10:42 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, lookit me, all trying to be helpful when I can't even help myself. Give it up, blow it out your arse, Branwell.

Life is endless grating tedium with occasional bursts of joy growing less and less frequent.

I really need to get out of bed. Today is a "jog and then shower" day and there's no avoiding it. It doesn't matter if I jog and then shower and then get straight back into bed, so long as I've done it.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 10:54 (ten years ago) link

small victories. yay!

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:09 (ten years ago) link

Customer service training, clips from the IT crowd, now we're learning AND laughing oh such a world such a world

gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:15 (ten years ago) link

I have jogged! I have showered! I have ignored 3 misogynist little piggies, and if I can take some library books back and buy some bogroll I will call myself a productive member of society! Yay me.

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:32 (ten years ago) link

there's a horrible trick that my booze-deformed cells play on me where they pretend that booze is some temporary communal nirvana - which, y'know, it sort of is - but they're only telling me that because they want booze

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:36 (ten years ago) link

I dunno. Booze is kinda like a roulette wheel that half the time points to "temporary communal nirvana" and half the time points to "EXTREME BADNESS DO NOT GO" so I can't really hold "booze" responsible for either, I think it's a trick that my brain does, and booze just facilitates.

But I have developed this whole complicated system of Rules About Booze, and number one is Do Not Drink Just To Cope With Social Circumstances. So I'm going to whack your booze-deformed cells with a rolled-up newspaper and shout "NO! Bad booze cells. NO." I'm sure this will help!

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 13:02 (ten years ago) link

This is me right now:

http://img0.etsystatic.com/009/1/6532289/il_340x270.467641904_ac5e.jpg

NO BAD BOOZE CELLS! NO!

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 13:06 (ten years ago) link

thanks Babs

it's not just the imaginary community, it's the sudden appearance of purpose and other people where there are none

to go back to an old thought - i don't want to use other people to mortar the cracks in my life but jayz the cracks are outstripping the walls

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 13:09 (ten years ago) link

then i hang onto the habit of sober isolation out of half bloody-mindedness and half lesser of two evils, the system works

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 13:14 (ten years ago) link

I spent most of yesterday evening in the pub, I didn't drink but nor did I talk to anyone. It was shit.

chekhprivan (wins), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 13:35 (ten years ago) link

i can imagine.

don't get me wrong there's a ton of good things about not drinking, and much as i love drinking for me it is half nihilism in its purest form and i nihilism i don't want to embrace right now, and many of the people i like to talk to in the pub are interesting and amusing in their own right but come on

it's a bit scary how much of our society's recreational opportunity is built around it. it's not great when yr own brain's recreational imagination is locked onto it

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 13:40 (ten years ago) link

also champions of sobriety still mostly make my inner street urchin want to climb into the nearest bottle of rum

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 13:41 (ten years ago) link

That's what always did for it, for me. The whole kind of "cheerleaders of sobriety" thing, when people took that attitude around me, my inner contrarian would just dig in her heels and down a load of bouze just to prove I could. (But I've managed to turn that attitude round to sic it on itself, when people tell me "you'll never stay clean or sober or temperate without doing AA and giving up bouze FOREVER!!!!" I just turn around and say "fucking watch me." Inner contrarians can be useful when directed in other directions.)

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link

yeah i seem to have formed an uneasy alliance with mine "i will stop on my own terms cheers and not yours"

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link

I think in the end, for a certain kind of brain, that's the only useful attitude to take.

(Me, I am so fucking bored of this all right now. I'm bored of being unwell. I'm bored of being unemployed. I should be doing something, I should be composing symphonies or writing novels or drawing comic books, and instead I'm just back at this "yay, you got out of bed today and took a shower, gold star for you!" and it's like, come *on*, am I 6? Why am I back here?)

our lives, erased (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 14:13 (ten years ago) link

i know :(

and like i said maybe i (or you) end up back here a lot cos a lot of what makes us feel this way is real and is outside us and near impossible to control

which makes the things you have made that were worthwhile that much more worth celebrating, and they also remind me that i could do it again

can't believe people like things (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

sailed out of sight of land today, looking for realness, realness lost or never really real

touch of fingers touch of lips touch of touch

a few bleak psychedelic moments into the buffeting wind along George Street with the concrete of the multistorey phazing in and out of the concrete of the sky, kinda glimpsing real but the reason i didn't wear glasses for so long - they get in the way, they screen the world out, they goldfish me in

take them off everything's still flat and not quite there, just blurrier

the wrong day to be too full of books and not quite here

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 09:34 (ten years ago) link

the reason Hunger Games made feel so tense and sad, i guess - all dystopias look like documentaries to me

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 09:53 (ten years ago) link

Retreat into surrealness, it's much better here.

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 10:00 (ten years ago) link

i just had a pleasant morning doing Braille with a student and talking about Dungeons and Dragons so y'know there are compensations

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:47 (ten years ago) link

http://www.benziger.org/articlesIng/?p=32

shiny diamonds of recognition in my brain

Squidward Ka-Spel (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:40 (ten years ago) link

yep yep! thank you for the link

but, how can a person find the thing which does not make them feel like this? what if that thing is not something that allows them to survive? what if they don't even have that thing? and all the other predictable questions

(I agreed to go out tonight and am wondering what I've let myself in for. It's been a while. "Social anxiety" I guess though I'm not sure it's exactly social anxiety. I've got my comfy nest where I don't have to try to make faltering stupid boring conversational noises which fall out of my mouth in the wrong order and where I don't have to be constantly reminded of what other people see when they see me.)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

i'm still digesting the Benziger/PASS stuff, trying to decide what's wishful thinking and what might be science-ish; sometimes these things give me a model for thinking about what's wrong, even if they don't help much at finding ways to improve the situation. i guess there's alw

interrupts typing cos the ice cream van came. resumes thought now we all have ice creams

ays something to be learned about little things we can do or avoid to make the work world a shade less worse.

going out is usually worse in anticipation, right? sure things will be fun when you're out there. judicious application of gin is indicated for social anxiety disorder.

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link

Aw, I hope you have an OK time, Spacecadet. Social anxiety and "going out", yeah, bad combination. I find I'm better if I make myself a little comfortable nest while I'm out - a booth in a pub or a particular seat at a party - and not leave it, so that I feel safe and have a space to retreat to, even "out".

I am supposed to be going out tonight, but my sodding heel is still not OK. Like, it's fine to walk up to the high street and back, but just knowing it would not hold out on the loooong bus-train-walk trip and back I would have to make, and it's likely to be a "standing around" party which I'm not physically up to (and scared I'd damage myself if I got drunk enough not to remember the injury). And then I just start thinking "wow, parties are so scary, and I like all these people *LOTS AND LOTS* and if I could sit down with all of them and chat to them individually one at a time, for maybe 20 minutes tops, that'd be great. But all at once, in a party, while feeling in significant pain, this is not a bright idea. :(

a small viking themed quasi illegal outdoor rave I was DJing (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

I'm going out to have dinner and watch a too-long film (NB not a date, or at least if it is a date then many hilariously wrong assumptions have been made - but no, it is not a date)

so I may have to weigh up the application of gin vs the importance of not needing to walk out and look for the cinema toilets more than once (not at all is best but I figure once is the socially acceptable maximum)

why are films so long, why? but at least they remove the need for conversation

sorry about your foot and the party scariness, BB

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link

i like a long film if the longness is part of the vibe but if its just a 90 minute idea that got out of hand it annoys me. on the other hand, if you're in the cinema then the lack of conversation removes the need for a swift drink, as you say, and then at least after there is something obvious to talk about

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link

Ooh, going to a film is a really good idea. Because you're right, you don't need to talk. And when you do have to talk, hey, you can automatically talk about the film you have just seen.

Avoid too much gin, have fun on your not-a-date!

a small viking themed quasi illegal outdoor rave I was DJing (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

so much of my problem drinking was wrapped up in "how can i feel comfortable in this uncomfortable social situation" btw so my medical advice is compromised

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link

xxp That's a good point but suggests this evening is the wrong way round as the talking portion of the evening is before the film and after the film I suspect there will be scuttling for our respective nightbuses

I might be a little bit ADHD (person who endlessly complains on this thread that they can't concentrate at work in inventing neurological reasons for same shocker) but I am highly suspicious of any films which are more than 100 minutes long, which basically means all films made in the past decade

BB I keep reading your display name as part of your post and thinking how you are going to be standing around at a small viking rave with a bad foot. Can you go to the party, say "oh I'd love to stand and chat but MY LEG", and plonk yourself down on a chair or other convenient leaning post and make people come to you? or is that not likely to be appropriate/successful?

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link

BATH CHAIR

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link

THANK YOU.

I firmly believe that nearly all movies should only be about 90 mins long. Going to see one today that is 2 hrs. 9 mins and while I want to see it a part of me is already thinking that that's just a little too long for me. I get so antsy!

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link

like i said, if you are an art movie where nothing happens with looooooong slow shots of people staring moodily into the distance then the longer the better but if it's a genre flick then 2 hours = get tae fuck

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link

LOL, no, I am not going to be DJing at a viking rave with an injured foot, but TBH that sounds like a v v BB thing to be doing.

It probably would actually be totally OK to plonk myself down on a chair at party and say "ow my FOOT (the gout, gout*)"

*it's not actually gout, but this is funny as it is a wine and cheese party

But the big problem is actually the travel. There is a significant walk at the other end which would mean either arriving totally bad tempered and in pain, or else taking 3 separate busses right across London on a Saturday night, and really, no.

Films over 100 minutes long = this is for DVD. I was just talking to my Mum about this, like, I can no longer stomach having to go to a theatre and sit through a film and not be able to pause it to go to the bathroom, or refresh my drink or get dinner or basic human needs. There's a reason long gigs have intervals between movements or support/main band. 90 minutes tops for how long I can hold my attention.

a small viking themed quasi illegal outdoor rave I was DJing (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

x-post YES YES bath chair!

Especially if accompanied by Charles Ryder lookylike to push it through Hackney. With an armadillo on a string. This would be excellent.

a small viking themed quasi illegal outdoor rave I was DJing (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link

I can no longer stomach having to go to a theatre and sit through a film and not be able to pause it to go to the bathroom, or refresh my drink or get dinner or basic human needs.

YESSSS. Netflix has killed my ability to sit through a movie tbqfh. I'm going to need my drink refilled and a smoking environment and at least one bathroom break, AND it would be good if I could text and read twitter on my phone and pause the movie when I saw an interesting article.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 1 February 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

DJ-ing while being held aloft on a Viking shield?

And when you f--- up, you go backwards (snoball), Saturday, 1 February 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

My apologies to movies and everything but my brain is just not made for their presentation model.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 1 February 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link

I suppose it's funny how films have been getting longer while the average film watcher's attention span has been decreasing

(allegedly, according to clickbait pseudoscience articles everywhere, and also the anecdotal evidence of my own alt and tab keys having no print left on them)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 1 February 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link

Kind of explains how most big movies have tended more and more towards 'whoa!!! awesome' set pieces every 5 minutes at the expense of plots that make sense.

And when you f--- up, you go backwards (snoball), Saturday, 1 February 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

(No film. Film had sold out and we hadn't booked and there wasn't anything else on for ages so everyone went their separate ways. Kind of... relieved? Dinner was OK though, nice to see people but I felt a bit out of it. Hope everyone else's evening is going OK.

Now, what to do with this mental energy I've built up...)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

((In search of lost time))

a small viking themed quasi illegal outdoor rave I was DJing (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link

(((I think I have missed your reference but I suppose it's ironic that I will spend tomorrow bemoaning that my weekend disappeared and I didn't do STUFF and yet I had 3 unexpected bonus free hours this evening which I spent on the sofa reading ILX instead of doing anything. maybe that's what you meant but I don't think it is)))

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link

i was gonna watch Rashomon with Joel but we're both just vegging doing surfy net shit i guess

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

nah what the hell i nagged him

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:54 (ten years ago) link

??? I'm not sure what that reference is about now. How odd. I don't think I was saying you were particularly Proustian - oh yeah, the idea that you had psyched yourself up to see people, then those hours were just "lost".

Or maybe the lost chord.

I post very odd things when I'm half writing a ~story~ and half posting on ILX.

not doing overdue work, thinking abt article, wishing there was some way to work out whether i feel unhappy (in general) because i'm bad at my job and don't like it, or whether i feel bad at my job and don't like it because i'm unhappy (in general)

i mean in some ways it doesn't matter, but if it's fixable at all then it makes a big difference which

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link

Unemployed ATM, but thinking about my recent work gigs, it's been that I didn't like the jobs, so I was disinterested, so I was bad at them (transpires that I can't force myself to be good at something I dislike), so I was unhappy.

And when you f--- up, you go backwards (snoball), Sunday, 2 February 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I feel like that might be the case here, but I can't think of anything else I'd rather do, and I'm not sure in my current state I'd be able to give more of myself to anything else either. My current task is interesting on paper but I've been putting off looking at it for ages and I don't quite know why. Fear of criticism?

Benziger article seems to be basically a plug for various services e.g. her book Thriving in Mind which as far as I can tell goes 1. find your MBTI type, 2. ???, 3. profit. Still kind of interested in seeing if it has a more fully featured stage 2 but I just redid an MBTI-alike and got something I've never got before (ISTP, think I've been all 4 permutations of IN** before but never not been IN) which doesn't sound like me at all, so my hope of fixing my brain via MBTI is not currently too high.

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 2 February 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link

(I guess I got S on the MBTI because
0. article made me think "maybe I have misunderstood my strengths/weaknesses, must not blindly click my usual answers"
1. failure to do background reading for work task led me to pick all the "I hate book learning" answers
2. avoided any reason-over-emotions answers because pissed off lately at people who think their emotions ARE rational logic - one of the questions was "My actions are frequently influenced by emotions" and I do not even believe anyone who ticked "No" for that. you are not Data from Star Trek
3. answered questions about "everything I do is planned meticulously" negatively bcz, well, I spend hours going over and over all the possibilities and not making a decision until I have to go, fuck it, time to get out the door and improvise

but no, I am not a cool-in-crisis skydiving firefighter, I am a risk-averse decision-avoider who goes to pieces in a crisis and all sorts of non-crisis situations too)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 2 February 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link

yes, whenever I do one of these tests and get to the 'do you plan things in detail' type questions I need an option for 'yes, but I still manage to screw up'. the way these things are formatted, are you better at empathising or rational analysis, spontaneity and inspiration or organisation and rigor, doesn't seem to leave a space for people who are crap at all those things.

soref, Sunday, 2 February 2014 22:22 (ten years ago) link

guys, i see a satisfying career opportunity here. between us we shd be able to develop the ILX Crap Personalities model, which works out which crap personality you have and then tells you to give up and lock yourself in the house playing video games

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 07:15 (ten years ago) link

Seems like too much work. I'll just sit here in the house playing video games.

And when you f--- up, you go backwards (snoball), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:42 (ten years ago) link

Fatigue vs Attention Deficit
Despair vs Mania
Nihilism vs Inability to compromise

need 1 more, whip up a few questionnaires, cracked it

questionnaire is the single word i have most trouble spelling i think

dunno why i am feeling the Philip Seymour Hoffman thing so much, perhaps it speaks to my sullen nihilism. then again he was within 12 months of my age so.

i am supposed to be doing last minute homework and every time i look at an NVQ evidence sheet my eyes defocus and my head shuts down

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:42 (ten years ago) link

technically it's not homework when you're at work but you get my meaning. christ i would love a big bag of sulphate about now.

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:44 (ten years ago) link

Absent-Minded vs. Obsessive

sarahell, Monday, 3 February 2014 08:45 (ten years ago) link

or is that too close to fatigue vs. attention deficit?

sarahell, Monday, 3 February 2014 08:46 (ten years ago) link

went for a good long walk with a friend yesterday that ended with us trudging thru muddy twilight, felt good, especially when we came across a pair of white-bummed deer gadding about in the dark - Roe i'm guessing

so i'm not anhedonic yet. just trapped in a gleefully anhedonic world.

xp sarah that's good enough dammit, i was thinking of something similar re: carelessness vs perfectionism. plus it's armchair psychology, two concepts being near-identical is kinda the point nicht war?

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:49 (ten years ago) link

"aren't 'wish it' and 'want it' really the same thing?"

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:49 (ten years ago) link

need to alter either "absent-minded" or "attention-deficient" to avoid a clash of As. maybe change "attention-deficient" to "irritable" or "hyper"

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:51 (ten years ago) link

so, the correct response to the Vague-Ell Type questionnaire is to stare blankly at the paper for half an hour then bin it whilst weeping curses

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:52 (ten years ago) link

well, in our questionnaire one can be a FOND

sarahell, Monday, 3 February 2014 08:54 (ten years ago) link

"Your type is Horse with Black Bile rising, beware the colour green, lucky number is 15. Avoid working with people."

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:55 (ten years ago) link

"You will take a long journey over water but you will still be a moany oaf at the end of it."

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:56 (ten years ago) link

"FONDs are good at producing detailed systems which they know will never work because they don't have the energy to fight with people any more"

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:58 (ten years ago) link

"Avoid working with people."

Save time and print that on every single results sheet.

'Steely Dan are over-rated' vs 'Steely Dan are under-rated'

And when you f--- up, you go backwards (snoball), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:59 (ten years ago) link

I dunno if liking or disliking slow jams is really useful here

sarahell, Monday, 3 February 2014 09:02 (ten years ago) link

OMG, Noodle, I totally want to take this personality test now. DO IT DO IT DO IT, this is the best thing ever, the Vague-'Ell personality index.

Write a short funny book on this in the exact parodic style of management, and I'm sure some publisher would take it on, either as parody or not realising it wasn't real!

This could be as wildly unsuccessful as, well... OK, it would probably sell about as well as "Crap Towns" but I would totally buy the fuck out of it and give it to all my (future) bosses.

Liking or not liking slow jams = Urgent & Key, imo.

I'm going ~out on the town~ today with another ILX0r but please please please make this be a thing!

Social drinking affects my work productivity more than drinking alone
(Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Neither Agree or Disagree, Agree, Strongly Agree)

The only thing more pointless than my job is my existence
(Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Neither Agree or Disagree, Agree, Strongly Agree)

I enjoy watching soap operas because the characters have more serious problems than I do
(Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Neither Agree or Disagree, Agree, Strongly Agree)

sarahell, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 11:42 (ten years ago) link

slightly reinstated apparently :/

and my ability to turn up for work hungover didn't last so long

i hate doing this to myself. i hate not ever being able to do this to myself.

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 13:51 (ten years ago) link

opening up 4 or 5 Youtubes of the same track at 20-30 second intervals makes some pretty great drones yo

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link

we should do the crap personality inventory

sarahell, Thursday, 6 February 2014 00:44 (ten years ago) link

yeah we shd do, how did i not put Procrastinator as a type?

need to snap out of the zombie torpor first

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2014 00:51 (ten years ago) link

need to snap out of:

nothing looks solid, there is a sheet of glass between me and outside, i can't bear to talk to most people, i'm counting time off in my head constantly, can't bear to go to sleep at night, work doesn't want me to have any time, business going on, dead lifeless world all around, miss my children's constant presence, timetabled, parcelled up into sleep and snatches of inconsequential timewasting and work work, got the creeps from all the wellmeaning creeps around me, not buying into whatever i'm sposed to be buying into, loss of addiction = loss of contact with people i actually do like, nooooooothingness, life = over, out of lives, let things crumble, obligations gonna wind up dying like i lived in debt and unreliable, if i keep going here i can nearly imagine the way OUT but then i remember the way out isn't real if there's nothing to live on with it, endgame, used everything up and stop now

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2014 08:37 (ten years ago) link

i dunno why what's okay for other people isn't okay for me, must be my own special spoilt failure, pitiful excpt u know fuck that pity

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2014 08:39 (ten years ago) link

for a bomb that would infern my world and leave everybody else's intact fo them

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2014 08:42 (ten years ago) link

NV, I know I am on the other side of the glass right now, but yup, I know a place very much like that one down there. Not there right now, but really feeling you being in there.

Hope you find a way to snap out, but completely understand how it works when you can't. If that "leave, but leave everyone else around you intact" button was available, I'd have taken it long ago. But the people whose lives you interact with in a positive way - including mine, in whatever tiny way - are both the glue and the curse.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 February 2014 10:44 (ten years ago) link

it's different, in a bunch of ways, and when i try to grasp it i'm not so clear. but i like life, i wanna stick with it - it just relies on being crushed by things which are its opposite

really hit a wall today. i have faked my way thru holding down a job, and i'm really pretty angry at schlubs around me who don't know what addiction is, who don't know what's wrong with the life they're forcing me to live, who don't get why i can't shut up and give up everything just for a roof over my head and food and the chance to look after my loved ones

really year zeroing here, can't see how i can go on at this way of being, a question of time before they realise i can't do it and throw me out into yr authentic poverty

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2014 11:12 (ten years ago) link

finding it quite hard to think today (today's excuse: face numb after dentist) so not really capable of offering anything more than this but

NV <3

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 6 February 2014 11:51 (ten years ago) link

thanks both of you :)

i'm gonna try and practise thoughtful silence for a while. laters.

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 February 2014 12:05 (ten years ago) link

Thinking of you, NV. <3

I know what helps me in this kinda mood is, oddly, to give in to the meaninglessness and the hopelessness, and to feel that emotion, and accept it and acknowledge the validity of it and inhabit it for a bit, and all those ~therapy speak~ things which sometimes help and sometimes don't. But just say "this is real, this is where we're at" and then wait for it to pass then pick myself up and start climbing the shit mountain again.

But I'm not going to patronise you by even thinking that either you don't know this stuff already, or to assume that what works for me might work for you. Bah!

But really just poking you with a stick and saying you're great, and also I really appreciated your thoughts on the lyrics thread, about "str8 dude listening to Beyonce" because that was a booming post.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 February 2014 12:21 (ten years ago) link

give in to the meaninglessness and the hopelessness, and to feel that emotion, and accept it and acknowledge the validity of it and inhabit it for a bit

since i've already broken my sabbatical i wanted to say this is v. good advice i am trying to observe

"how to be in an office without feeling like a naughty kid (because you're not doing what you're supposed to do (because you kind of can't))" is what i ought to be thinking about, from the innermost kernel out, i think

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 11:14 (ten years ago) link

Right now I am trying to do "feel & acknowledge the validity of this anger, inhabit the emotion & let it pass" but this is hard work, emotionally, and I don't want you to feel like I was recommending something without understanding how difficult it can be. x

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Friday, 7 February 2014 11:32 (ten years ago) link

it was the necessary next step forward, i spent half of last year trying to keep my job, now i need to think seriously about whether i should, whether i can, and what the alternatives would be. and i need to do it without being too resentful of the well-meaning people around me who don't see the quandary.

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 11:35 (ten years ago) link

There are blunt economic realities of "I need to keep this job."

But then there are all those other quandaries around it, of should I, can, I, what are the alternatives.

I'm still kinda not really OK with talking through the details of how I left my last job (or indeed the circumstances of leaving the one before) but there came a point where I felt like I was keeping a job to prove I *could*, to prove that I was not lazy, or crazy, or unemployable, or just suffering from a bad attitude or giving in to blunt force sexism in the workplace. But then coming to terms (LOL therapy) with the fact that there were very real and pressing and important-to-my-health reasons why I had to leave both jobs. (Even if it took a panic attack so bad I went to my GP thinking it was an actual heart attack, to force me to confront one of those sets of reasons.)

I am certainly aware that being able to leave a job is a luxury. But there's also a point where you have to acknowledge if something is a bad fit, even if it looks good on paper or in your idealism or whatever, and find other alternatives. I don't know what those alternatives are, and to be honest, I'm using every diversion technique I have right now to fight own the rising panic.

Sorry if this is me just making an awful noise over in another corner with no relevance to anything. I never know whether to "offer advice" (which will be totally not-relevant and unhelpful) or "tell a similar story from mine own life" (which will also be not-relevant and unhelpful with the added bonus of super selfish and self-obsessed) or say nothing or just say "I hear you" and go away.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Friday, 7 February 2014 14:16 (ten years ago) link

this thread was called "mumbling to myself" with the implication that everybody was free to do that, and the understanding that that means that people will overhear and sometimes mumble back

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link

- having just been in a disciplinary wherein we addressed how much i want my job alongside how much i need it and i'll continue to work this thru in my head. cos my "need" for it is predicated on having a proper home for my children and that's a helluva need, but i have to make it stop being the only reason cos on its own it's never quite enough

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:03 (ten years ago) link

or, whisper my darkest thought - "kids, i love you enough to not kill myself directly"

there's something in that truth that is the sickest part of my soul

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link

(Sorry, finding a great deal of ILX hard to read: meaning process, correctly navigate socially, cope with vicious outbursts etc, at this moment. Don't want to make things worse.)

((Mood on the turn, feeling catastrophically stupid & naive. Couple weeks of expansive good mood, feeling great, brilliant threads, writing 15-20k words of novel a day does not mean "all cured, better now" it means a massive crash is in the post.))

That "won't kill myself coz of kids" thing goes both ways. The only reason I'm alive is coz my suicide would destroy my Mum.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link

need to work self-harming tendencies into the fake Myers-Briggs :/

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link

actually if had a passivity/aggression axis and an intro/extroversion axis that wd do the job nicely whilst allowing for homicidal impulses too

zonal snarking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link

bad weekend, bad dreams, bad mood

mookieproof, Monday, 10 February 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link

had unfortunate dreams last night but i don't think they account for the fug in my head today

have been/am trying hard to be mindful, but it's always poised on a knife-edge for me - non-mindful options are so much nicer, in many superficial ways

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 February 2014 15:59 (ten years ago) link

No bad dreams here, because I haven't really slept in several days. I'm not mindful so much as hyper-aware. I am relating everything to Interpol. I am Interpol, you are Interpol, we are all Interpol, everything is Interpol, my heartrate adjusts itself automatically to the tempo of every song. I no longer have thoughts that aren't Interpol related. I am beginning to wonder if this was such a good idea for my mental health. Except I don't feel unhappy or depressed at all, in point of fact, I feel great? I'm not worried about what I'm feeling right now, but what I'll feel like in 2 days when the experiment is over?

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Monday, 10 February 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link

tbh lack of sleep doesn't do wonders for my stability no matter how giddy the highs feel but we're all adults here

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 February 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

...because insomnia is just another ~lifestyle choice~?

I know I'm not sleeping because I haven't been exercising properly. I haven't been exercising properly because I somehow fucked my foot up so bad I was walking with a cane for two weeks. Swings and roundabouts.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Monday, 10 February 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link

sorry i shouldn't've meant you were choosing not to sleep. i guess when i've had bad sleep patterns it's felt like a deliberate avoidance - cos of fear of death, usually - on my part. forgot there were other versions. also i think apnoea distort my bedtime/quality sleep time ratio.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 February 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link

my heartrate adjusts itself automatically to the tempo of every song

anti-aerobics

mookieproof, Monday, 10 February 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, NV, didn't intend it if that came off as fractious (any more than my normal spikiness, in this state of mind) - I knew you weren't being callous. I could *choose* to end the 22Listens experiment at any time but OCD thoughtworms would just choose something else to attach to if it weren't Interpol, and Interpol is pretty harmless in the grand scheme of things. (If at any point I start talking about how Bernard Sumner controls my thoughts, again, tell me to go to the ER, though, OK?)

I would really prefer to be sleeping properly. Last night I tried to knock myself out with a massive lashing of codeine cough syrup, but can't rely on that for obv reasons - and it didn't even work.

Anyway, bad sleep, bad dreams, yeah, I hear all this.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Monday, 10 February 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link

sleep, brain...it's all v. chicken and egg. if i didn't have to do work in prescribed hours i reckon my pattern wd settle of its own accord. and like i said i rarely experience that "jesus my head will NOT go to sleep" but i think that's often cos of being in deficit.

even sad dreams i could accommodate into a "able to wander around all day being wistful and mulling it over" lifestyle. the problem comes back down to the reality of being this efficient machine for 7.5 hours a day.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 February 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link

So if I actually managed to get, like, 7 whole hours of uninterrupted sleep last night, why do I feel so burnt today?

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 08:40 (ten years ago) link

7 hours is about yr daily requirement, if you've had lots of less than 7s in the days before that then you're still way overdrawn at the Bank of Morpheus as i understand it. plus the sleep you have had probably neutralizes that dreamy high of long-term wakefulness

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 08:50 (ten years ago) link

meanwhile i've been sleeping and behaving and i'm still totally unable to get my head in the game

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 08:51 (ten years ago) link

i wanna spend the day reading New Left peeps and not whatever it is i'm supposed to do here when i'm not actually helping people

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 08:54 (ten years ago) link

oh man and i can't even begin to untangle "helping"

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 08:54 (ten years ago) link

it's pretty weird actually, don't seem to be able to convincingly explain to boss that my head is swooshing about like one of those blue tide box toy things

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 08:59 (ten years ago) link

OK, yeah, I guess I've had between 2 and 5 for the past week or two so I've still got one hell of a sleep debt to pay off. I'm due to enter ~depressive phase~ later this week so perhaps I'll sleep for 3 or 4 days straight when I hit it, that'd be nice.

"Helping" - what does it even mean when your job is helping people? Because of the corrosive effect of Paid Labour, and yet "helping people" is supposed to be an inherently emotionally rewarding thing to do, what does it do when even your desire to "help people" gets ground down by being associated with all the negativity of... (I don't even have a word for what it is so I'll just say ugliness of the capitalist model, though the moment you say "capitalist" it brings in a raft of associations I don't even intend. Just the way that "making something your dayjob" makes it somehow inherently shitty and unenjoyable.)

I still haven't updated my CV. I still haven't even contacted any headhunters. It is not like I have anything else pressing and urgent to do. I am mucking about on ILX and obsessively doing the dishes and writing fan fiction. The only reason I can come up with for why I haven't started "Looking For A Job" is: "Because I Don't Have To."

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 09:04 (ten years ago) link

Like, what is so fucking inherently ~amazing~ about jobs that I am supposed to get up and go look for one?

I have been having this argument with therapists since I was 16 years old (the first time I ever saw a therapist break their Therapy Face, when I was talking about the pressure I was under from my family about education and work and the inherent importance thereof and me just grinding my heels in and saying "nope, nope, nope" and my Mum holding forth for hours about the inherent Value and Nobility of labour and all this Protestant Work Ethic fucking bullshit, and I just ended up mumbling into my jumper "I don't want a fucking ~job~ I just need some fucking money" and my shrink burst out laughing and she laughed and laughed and laughed, which was very unprofessional, but it was also one of those moments where you see through all your own bullshit completely and totally in sheer stark relief. And then she said something like "Congratulations, Branwell, now you understand what it is to be a grown up".

And this is a lesson I've never forgotten, but still somehow never learned.

Anything that really has any kind of inherent enjoyment value, no one will pay you to do. Anything that you are paid to do, the mechanism of that exchange, and being *forced* to do, will strip the enjoyment from the activity.

The irony of all this being, that my Mum, when she was putting me in a pressure cooker to walk straight from a hospital ward into either university or a full time job, with no convalescence period at all, was deeply unhappy with her role as a stay at home mother. Now she works to support herself - and even working her dream job - all she does is complain about how annoying and frustrating it is, doing her dream job. I was right and she was wrong, all along.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 09:22 (ten years ago) link

Feeling very "shut up you blethering old woman, no one cares" today, TBH.

(This is of course, the point at which the obligatory zingers will step in to say that this is exactly right, and as it should be.)

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 11:19 (ten years ago) link

i feel "sleep debt" unpayoffable

conrad, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 11:48 (ten years ago) link

Sleep mortgage, more like.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link

i feel sleep cannot be metaphoticised into credit/debt financial model

conrad, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 11:58 (ten years ago) link

Yes it can, we have completely amortised your physiology.

(not really, I just wanted to say that.)

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:00 (ten years ago) link

zzzz

conrad, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:01 (ten years ago) link

credit/debt may be a horrible metaphor, but from my understanding of current science and my personal experience sleep deficit is a thing and it doesn't go away of its own accord

BB you're saying clearly what i was sidling around, the horrible reality of paid employment in the society we live in. i end up self-identifying as lazy altho there's a million things i wd like to do because none of those things seem convertible into roof, food, the usual. amd many people have internalized that this grimness is the Order of Things, if not the Natural Order of Things, and they seem able to live with that, and good on them, but when they're used as a stick to beat those of us who really can't handle that reality, well bollocks to that.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:07 (ten years ago) link

tho the thing about "helping people" for me is not that i find that aspect of my job horrible, more that in providing a service i'm often not really or necessarily giving people something that they need, or want, or is of much use to them, so much as i'm policing and misleading and helping them to fit in to something that mayn't be of any value to them at all

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:10 (ten years ago) link

[on top of craving time, and booze, which is time borrowed at payday loan interest]

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:11 (ten years ago) link

I felt so sick, for two days, after a glass and a half of whisky mac, that I am not going down the "bouze" route again in a hurry. Bouze, I love you, why are you so bad to me?

Really feeling your previous two posts, and yes, understand that better - you are trying to sell something to others that you see the futility and uselessness of. Pretending "this grimness is the Order of Things" is really hitting me hard (kinda wanna do a comic on that now, but probably shan't.)

Right now I can feel my mood falling, and I accept that it's just like barometric pressure, to be accepted and dealt with. I am well enough to go to work, and Get Shit Done, and just burrow through whatever pile of databullshit they throw at me. But I am not well enough to go through the hellish, invasive, demeaning, mendacious, *supplicant* process of looking for a job. And this is why I'm not updating my CV or contacting headhunters. Because I cannot pretend it's not bullshit right now. If that makes me lazy, I'm lazy.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 13:26 (ten years ago) link

My thoughtworms are a broken record. Their stories are boring and stuff...

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 13:44 (ten years ago) link

ha. there's the rub - it's bad enough you have to work, but for fuckers to insist you look like you want to and you'r really into it...that's monumental sadism

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link

(9) While commencing any work recite; 'Al-Awwalu' many times.

(10) To gain knowledge and to know secrets of nature recite: 'Al-Aleemu' (=The All-Knowing.) 6 times after every Waajib Namaaz.

(11) To develop a forceful personality recite: 'Al-Muta'aali' (The Most Exalted) and 'Al-Adhweemu' (The Great One) Many Times.

(12) For fearlessness and boldness recite regularly a great deal: 'Al-Hafidhoo'. (The Preserver)

(13) To accomplish successfully any of your undertakings, write 'Al-Haqqu' (The Right One) on a square paper, put it in your hands, raise the hands towards the open sky and beseech your need from Allaah.

(14) To pass by unnoticed recite 'Al-Khaaliqu' (The Creator) many times.

(15) To safeguard one self from hypocrisy recite Surah-e-Munafiqoon.

(16) For sending a gift to a diseased: Surah-e- Mulk.

(17) For heart diseases, for confrontation, and for wiping out the evil of Monday recite: Surah-e-Dahr.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 09:26 (ten years ago) link

•Openness means the tendency to be informed, creative, insightful, curious and having a variety of experience.
•Conscientiousness means the tendency to show self-discipline, act dutifully, and aim for achievement. It means planned rather than spontaneous behavior.
•Extraversion means to have energy, positive emotions, and the tendency to be sociable.
•Agreeableness means the tendency to be compassionate, trusting and cooperative rather than suspicious and antagonistic towards others.
•Neuroticism means a tendency to experience unpleasant emotions easily, such as anger, anxiety, depression, or vulnerability.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 09:27 (ten years ago) link

Now I have entered into the habitation which is hidden, and I hold converse with Set. My protector advanced to me, covered was his face.... on the hidden things. He entered into the house of Osiris, he saw the hidden things which were therein. The Tchatchau Chiefs of the Pylons were in the form of Spirits. The god Anpu spake unto those about him with the words of a man who cometh from Ta-mera, saying, "He knoweth our roads and our towns. I am reconciled unto him. When I smell his odour it is even as the odour of one of you." And I say unto him: I the Osiris Ani, whose word is truth, in peace, whose word is truth, have come. I have drawn nigh to behold the Great Gods. I would live upon the propitiatory offerings [made] to their Doubles. I would live on the borders [of the territory of] the Soul, the Lord of Tetu. He shall make me to come forth in the form of a Benu bird, and to hold converse [with him.] I have been in the stream [to purify myself]. I have made offerings of incense. I betook myself to the Acacia Tree of the [divine] Children. I lived in Abu in the House of the goddess Satet. I made to sink in the water the boat of the enemies. I sailed over the lake [in the temple] in the Neshmet Boat. I have looked upon the Sahu of Kamur. I have been in Tetu. I have held my peace.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 09:29 (ten years ago) link

"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 09:31 (ten years ago) link

... inspire action.

Try to paint a vision of the future that inspires your people to do whatever it takes to get there. The best leaders also clear away the organizational roadblocks that constrain employees’ natural creativity and initiative, unleashing a tremendous amount of energy in the process.

... be optimistic.

We all want to work with and for people who lift us up into the clouds instead of dragging us down into the mud. Make sure to seek out the positives in your people, helping them overcome their own feelings of self-doubt and spreading optimism throughout your organization.

... have integrity.

Research shows that the top thing that employees want from their leaders is integrity. Be honest, fair, candid and forthright, and treat everyone in the same way that you yourself would want to be treated.

... support and facilitate your team.

For people to do their very best work, they need an organizational environment that supports them by making it safe to take risks, to tell the truth, and to speak up ... without being punished for doing so. Support your employees by creating this kind of environment, and it will facilitate their progress toward attaining your organization’s goals.

... have confidence.

Highly effective leaders know deep down inside that they and their team can accomplish anything they set their minds to. Failure is not an option. Tentative leaders make for tentative employees. If you’re confident, your people will be too.

... communicate.

In any organization, knowledge is power, and great leaders ensure that every employee, from the very top to the very bottom of the org chart, is provided with complete and up-to-date information about the organization’s goals, performance, successes and failures. To achieve this level of connection, you should also provide ample channels for two-way communication between employees and managers, actively soliciting their ideas for improvement and rewarding employees for submitting them.

... be decisive.

One of the most basic duties of any leader is to make decisions. Highly effective leaders aren’t afraid to be decisive and to make tough calls quickly when circumstances require it. Once you have all the information you need to make an informed decision, then don’t hesitate--make it. And once you make a decision, then stick with it unless there is a particularly compelling reason for you to change it.

No matter what type of organization or industry you're in, it's possible to become a more effective leader, inspiring your people to give their very best every day of the week. Make a point of practicing these 7 leadership traits, and you will be a highly effective leader too.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 09:35 (ten years ago) link

I really want you to do an art project of some kind now, showing counterpoint between these ~management speak~ pseudo-psych bollix and obscure and forgotten Mesopotamian gods or something.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 09:39 (ten years ago) link

this is my art project :D

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 09:39 (ten years ago) link

yay tho i walk in the valley of the shadow of management theory

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 09:40 (ten years ago) link

EXCELLENT. I love it.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 09:45 (ten years ago) link

NV, I saw a dead ringer for you yesterday by the lifts holding a coffee and I was sad that it couldn't possibly be you and therefore I could not strike up a conversation with you about the ridiculous 'with [university department] I can...' that currently defaces the lifts.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 12:09 (ten years ago) link

:)

strange the demotivational power of motivational signage

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 12:14 (ten years ago) link

me irl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85jg7E5l73E

Punch Drake, Love (wins), Friday, 14 February 2014 10:43 (ten years ago) link

i went to a parents' morning today, with all the usual awkwardnesses and sadnesses that entails now, and then i made some sad sack quip about myself and then kicked myself afterwards because STOP DOING THAT even tho Nom was doing it too, and then i got the bus to work thinking about how lonely and blue and unloveable i feel, but i read a book and it wore off a little and i was just left with that comfortable, low level blue that almost feels like peace and acceptance

then i passed the chinese takeaway called Wins on Spring Bank and i thought "too long on ilx" and chuckled a bit and hey ho, life always goes on, goddammit

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 February 2014 10:56 (ten years ago) link

what a coincidence, I passed a Chinese takeaway called Hungry4Ass the other day

Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Friday, 14 February 2014 11:03 (ten years ago) link

lol

but im p sure that was an assian place, not just chinese

the waifdom of gizzards (darraghmac), Friday, 14 February 2014 11:24 (ten years ago) link

it wore off a little and i was just left with that comfortable, low level blue that almost feels like peace and acceptance

This has been ebbing and flowing, ebbing and flowing over the last two weeks for me.

I have a mental picture of the staff of Wins with their long flowing locks

ljubljana, Friday, 14 February 2014 13:16 (ten years ago) link

suddenly finding myself reading the egyptian book of the dead is why I <3 nv & this thread

ogmor, Friday, 14 February 2014 13:40 (ten years ago) link

this seems like the right place to announce that i am at work thinking about lunch at 9.35am

feel like there is a lot packed into that

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 February 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link

In questionably early otoh

politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Friday, 14 February 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Alors! Noodelle!

While listening to that Shamen comp I just bought (don't judge! I know it's terrible! I love it anyway!) I had the sudden thought about the missing link between Management Psychology Speak and ancient magic, and it popped up in the form of: that terrible Terence McKenna speech about immanentising the eschaton. And you will either be really offended by this link or laugh as much as I did but I could not help but think, yeah.

I have the sudden urge to spend the rest of the weekend watching Brigitte Bardot flicks.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 11:00 (ten years ago) link

Oh. I am being stalked by the word "semiotics" today. OK. Now I get it.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 11:09 (ten years ago) link

nothing but love for the Shamen, should never be a source of shame! i know more of McKenna as a sample source than i've ever read by him but i'm all for acid casualties trying to construct grand theories, at least until they turn all business on us

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 11:45 (ten years ago) link

Prefer Alan Watts as a grand theorist; he seems to be getting sampled a lot recently as well. HIs voice is so reasonable - no matter what he's actually saying - and I really like his sense of humour and didn't take himself too seriously (e.g he also published a book of nonsense verse), which is always a risk for a guru figure.

pre-acid:

http://www.laurenceplatt.com/wernererhard/alan1.jpg

post-acid:

http://www.prem-rawat-bio.org/gurus/img/drugs/awatts.jpg

mohel hell (Bob Six), Saturday, 15 February 2014 12:52 (ten years ago) link

(alcohol's in that acid punch as well though)

mohel hell (Bob Six), Saturday, 15 February 2014 12:53 (ten years ago) link

the Shamen <3

Saturday is a little less blue now I've written an email which should never be sent. Ugh. I would just like one area of my life not to feel like a disaster, is that too much to ask? OK, what I would like is for all areas of my life not to feel like disasters without me having to put any effort in, and that is too much to ask, I know, so why can't I put the effort in?

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:13 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, OK, I totally love the Shamen, and I love them *because*, not despite of, the combination of complete silliness (with the winking trickster awareness of "we are being silly now") and faux-visionary bullshit that they might actually *mean*. (It doesn't matter if an artist "means it" or not, it matters if it's a good or fun or compelling or enjoyable illusion, really, right?) But it's hard not to listen to a lot of that stuff now without an awareness that no matter how well intentioned their "it doesn't matter if you're black, white, purple" stuff was, it's still kinda uncomfortable to listen to now.

The Terence McKenna thing is like... (sorry, I'm completely manic at the moment, so I'm having trouble following mine own trains of thought right now, weightless, semiotics...)

I think where I was going with that was just listening to those wonderful samples on that track, and I'm pretty sure that's him on a Chapterhouse track from a similar era (I have a lot of trouble telling apart Terence McKenna, Timothy Leary, Alan Watts, Robert Anton Wilson when they're sampled on records). And the story that he is spinning is *wonderful*, it's really entertaining, about how "history is just shockwaves of the eschaton, being emitted from an entity in hyperspace, which shamen have access to the true forms of..." You know, what a fun yarn. Like, he's building on some very interesting mysticism and spinning it out into pure bullshit. And that's fun, but it's also, you know, intellectually garbage.

But thinking about the similar relationship between people like CG Jung... OK, Jung was a real ~mystic~, a visionary, someone who sifted through all the crazy shifting chaos of human thinking and culture and tried (with more or less success) to pull out some patterns. Then you get these other mystics who sift through the crazy shifting chaos of human psychology and pull out *good yarns*. (And in the "good yarns" there are some real lessons, like e.g. the idea of "reality tunnels".) This is all good!

But then when it comes to, like, Management Theory and applying these principles that come out of visionary mysticism (which is where "self actualisation" comes from) to Working In The Corporate Structure. That's not spinning fun yarns, that's pure garbage. But the reason they read so similarly is because they come from the same source. It's just absurd when one is pointed at "be a better human and live a more whole life within a functioning community" and the other is "make loads of money and drive your competitors into the ground using ~human psychology~" because the latter is so completely pointed in the opposite direction from the former, but painted up as if using the same language and symbols, and...

Nope, sorry, my cognitive function has gone again, and I'm a step off barneywaves. I am struggling to express something and lacking the words right now. Sorry!

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:20 (ten years ago) link

"Got any salmon?" "SORTED!"

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:21 (ten years ago) link

I wish I could turn my thoughts off. I have too many of them. I wish I could hire out my spare thoughts, like computer servers hire out their spare processing capacity when not in use. Like, lend all these thoughts to Spacecadet, because they are really good at *effort* but they are just taking up room in my head, with nothing to act on.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link

i always mean to read more Watts, he seems closer to genuinely trying to find a way of being, informed by the historical practices around Zen, rather than just "OOOOH MANNNN THIS IS STRONG SHIT" vibe you get off some of his fellow travellers

the connections between Jungian psychology and management theory are all over the place, and you're right Branwell, it's about near-identical techniques being used for good vs evil, but one thing i've felt over the last few weeks of reading/browsing is that whereas Jungians (including Jung) have always been aware that they are story-telling, reanimating myths and constructing metaphors to create perspectives on the cosmos, management speak generally tries to disguise itself as science, with an according shift in language - this is how the world works, and you can use these secrets to manipulate it

it's the age old story of people who treat the Holy Grail as a spiritual journey vs people who think it's a lump of magic gold, basically

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:38 (ten years ago) link

and hi spacecadet i reckon having completed one unpleasant task ought to be an excuse to indulge yrself for the rest of the month day anyway

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:41 (ten years ago) link

Yes, yes, this is exactly it, and this is the same thing that I was getting out of that big book of Alchemy that I read last year.

The idea of the Holy Grail as a spiritual journey, a quest in which the journey (and the things on which you learn while on it) is the destination, and the Grail is knowledge of yourself and your connection to the world around you.

Versus the idea of a lump of magic gold to be attained by applying the right methods - with the corresponding bizarre belief that a lump of gold will somehow make you happy?

Neither ~mystic spirituality~ nor ~science~ are bad things in and of themselves and both have their places, but ~mystic spirituality~ dressed up as ~science~ is the absolute worst and most dangerous thing in the entire world. That is where the evil lies. (Is this the meaning of "weightless semiotics"?)

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:45 (ten years ago) link

i can't answer that last bit, i feel like weightless semiotics wd be the kind of hall of mirrors of signification that we were talking about re: Baudrillard and images on the Image Band thread. whereas weighted semiotics wd imply a hierarchical dualism where the signs point at real things which are by their nature more important than the signs.

whereas really, things are also signs and the hall of mirrors isn't an illusion as such, because the mirrors are real and the reflections are real and your reflections on the reflections are real and it wd be presumptuous to assign a preference for one over the other because they all exist in some perceptual sense, and are part of the field of your experience

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:51 (ten years ago) link

reduce everything to PROCESS RULES PRODUCT DROOLS tbh

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:52 (ten years ago) link

mysticism always seems best at trickster/disruptive to me, or aware of its own contingency or limits - i feel like it's prone to being (o god deep breath for this one) instrumentalised (by management, marketing etc) because of its loose connection to general conditions of community life now, or praxis, or similar + maybe its ethical ends are less implicit, or more disconnectable than we'd hope.

woof, Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:52 (ten years ago) link

that disconnectability is probably an important distinction between mysticism and religion tho - the former isn't telling you how you ought to live, it's offering (possibly fictitious) maps of (possibly fictitious) places to visit

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:54 (ten years ago) link

it feels more of a leap to transform "thou shalt not steal" into business speak than it does to use the Tao te ching

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:56 (ten years ago) link

yes - i see that - I'd have fuzzily optimistically hoped that there's something in mysticism that comes out in action as 'be excellent to each other', not 'fulfil yourself and fuck em all', but I don't think that's so. I guess that's ok – good in fact – if the 'fuck em all' is a contingent/fictitious space we can look at, acknowledge - but yeah it leaves it prone to 7 Secrets to Success of the Shaman in a Business Suit.

woof, Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link

haha I know these are fish-in-a-barrel books but...

woof, Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:07 (ten years ago) link

Hi NV! The email wasn't an actual useful task, it was a diary-like catharsis of bad thoughts which were in my head and which are now in an unsaved Notepad document, never to be sent unless I have a severe lapse of judgement (which I may).

Doing my laundry and making small rearrangements of the sea of mess in my room, which I like to class as productive tasks even though the former gets done every weekend and the latter has made no visible difference as yet.

btw I love the mythic quests of mystic self-improvement vibe itt too, just have nothing to contribute (and I totally mean to read the Image Band thread one day but that's a lot of posts and I don't quite have the energy yet)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link

OMG, "7 Secrets Of Shamanic Success in The Semiotics of Suits" this is too too much, I love you guys, NV and woof you are the best!

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:13 (ten years ago) link

x-post <3 to you, Spacecadet, you are also the best, and "writing emails never to be sent" can be really important emotional work, actually.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:14 (ten years ago) link

a recent phd graduate from my philosophy programme has gone on to be a kind of corporate astrologer for hire, seems to be making a living from it too. i'm not sure if it's less or more creepy than his previous cult leader guise.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link

(I also don't know why I am hung up on "Weightless semiotics" so much but it is just one line from a lyric which is going round and round and round in my head like a weathercock in this wind, not like a stuck musically earworm or even an OCD earworm, but more like an important message from my subconscious that it is trying to get through to me.

Signs pointing at other signs, and signs pointing at things is an interesting idea, and we end up back up at the hyperreal again (cue the Shamen track...)

This whole "process rules, product drools" thing is something I argue back and forth endlessly with my shrink when she tells me to stop moaning and go and sell coffee mugs with house drawings on them instead of databases bcz I will be so much happier or whatever, but it's like... The process is what is interesting, the work of art is some husk that's left over so why should I try to sell that, don't be silly, it'd be like selling fingernail clippings. Dumb, I know.

Disconnection from ethical ends is what's also *good* about mysticism as opposed to religion, because so much of capital-R Religion just gets co-opted to propping up the status quo "Natural Order Of Things (TM)" rather than lessons of "be excellent unto one another" or "thou shalt not steal." The disconnect is important when Religion becomes just another corporate business concerned with propping up power. (Which you can use "Science!" for propping up existing power just as easily.)

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link

yeah. mysticism as map (in a Deleuze/Guattarian sense) is more hopeful than religion as tracing

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link

Just have to say, CD2 of the Shamen's Hits+Mixes is absolutely amazing. Such a trip down memory lane, all of the remixed grouped thematically ("Alternative" -> "House" -> "Acid" -> "Drum'n'Bass") and mixed like a DJ set. Oh, the nostalgia. I feel like I'm the dancefloor at the QE2 without leaving my bed.

"righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 15 February 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link

I want 2 dance

Was at mates' gig last night & had to dance for vid shoot but in that stilted TOTP2 swaying way, was not allowed 2 wile out in trademark fashion. Will dance in my head on train mereckons

Internet Alas (wins), Saturday, 15 February 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

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Tim, Saturday, 15 February 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link

Jesus, Nostalgia is a powerful drug.

I fell into a real hole of it last night. Shouldn't have got out those old records. Shouldn't have googled photos of the ~legendary drinking dens~ I used to habitually haunt back in the 90s. It's funny how memory plays tricks on you, that places I think of in my mind as powerful, evocative of nights of mischief and ruin, and then I see a photo of them, 20 years later, shot during the daytime, and I think... "that's *it*?" (But I guess the smallness and the apparent unassumingness of them was part of the appeal.) Memories flood back with the music. But then I fell into the old trap of romanticising the epic drunkenness and feats of drink/drug bravado. It has such a pull, this kind of "wow, what japes" in my memory (and I very nearly started typing out some "wot-ho, what japes!" anecdotes on another thread before stopping myself) but when I start thinking about what actually *happened*. And just started thinking "Jesus fucking christ, what an *asshole* I was." Yet so many people around me encouraged me because of how amusing, how legendary, how ker-azy it all was. (Or, worst of all, because they liked the English accent that came out when I was so fucking wrecked I no longer had control of my actions.) And like a fuck-up, I believed it.

And for the first time in my life, I'm looking at that period with this double lens. Of yes, nostalgia is a powerful drug, and thinking, not about the dirt, the vomit, the times I got mugged or assaulted or did serious fucked up shit, but about how impossibly glamourous we thought it all was. But suddenly realising, no, I am fucking lucky to have got out of that alive (lots of people I knew then, aren't) and how badly I screwed up again and again.

But it's hard to pull yourself out of the nostalgia trap when you have *nothing* in your present life.

I barely drink any more, so I no longer have that social lubricant any more (because "ker-azy" is a cute look at 25; it's insane at 40) and I feel kinda jealous of people who stopped drinking through AA and all that, and actually have a support network around them of chums and buddies around them to replace drinking buddies. Without alcohol, I'm terrified of everything.

I get like this when it's been, like, 4 days since I had a conversation with a flesh and bloody human being. When I've slipped so deep into nostalgia I can no longer see the real world around me. But what real world is there to see? Nostalgia is a powerful drug; was it really worth swapping those other drugs for this one?

~Autotelic Fabulousity~ (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 08:25 (ten years ago) link

i have to live with the part of me that wants to just keep partying forever. and by partying i don't mean a very glamorous thing - just the life of pubs in daylight, the clique of sodden émigrés from the "real" world or the work world or the mundane or whatever we choose to call it, the steady reimmersion into intoxication that puts you at one with everybody then without warning cuts you off from everybody, the way time works when you're drinking or taking whatever else comes to hand.

(this is a different social space. men can do this easily, walk into the men's world of the single pub drinker. women find this harder for all sorts of reasons, which is why you rarely see women drinking alone in public.)

i also have to live with the part of me that knows the price of that life, knows that it's unsustainable or refuses to pay the cost of it - which is everything, really. i have to live with the part of me that's got nothing more positive to offer than staying alive by staying sober, that organizes my shit on a mostly day to day basis, that sees my own fears in everybody else even tho they're probably not there.

i had to choose the latter because in the end i wanted to be around for my family. but as far as i can tell both are equally valid choices. maybe the reasons for choosing one and not the other don't bear too much scrutiny.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 08:59 (ten years ago) link

I guess this is one of those things where I never felt "like a woman" and I always felt "like a man" because I was the kind of person that was fine with drinking alone. Partly it was the heady glow of alcohol, and partly it was a drink-fuelled ability to walk into any situation and make friends with anyone (how could I do that then? why can I not do that now? oh yeah, bouze) Partly because drunks are weirdly antisocial yet herdlike creatures who prize the familiarity of a known space, where everybody knows your name and I always went to the same places.

They always say that "drinking alone" is supposed to be the problem. Nope. It's drinking with other people who are also scared of drinking alone which is the real insidious beast.

I don't feel like I'm in any danger of falling back into that lifestyle. Drinking at my age is ugly and unglamourous. But I am in danger of romanticising that lifestyle so heavily that I fall into a hole of nostalgia so deep I cannot climb out. Living in the past is harder to quit than bad Trucker Speed. I cannot keep my head out of the Infernal World of memory mixed with imagination and romanticisation. But it's powerful because there isn't really anything to pull myself out of that space for.

~Autotelic Fabulousity~ (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 09:11 (ten years ago) link

i don't think i have much of a support network around me but it's mostly of my own choosing, and most of my friends drink and i don't want them to take responsibility for deciding what i do or don't do.

nostalgia is a hell of a drug, but tbf mine usually gets tempered with the same things you've said - what an idiot i was

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 09:13 (ten years ago) link

I should stop listening to old records, maybe.

~Autotelic Fabulousity~ (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 09:15 (ten years ago) link

working out what to live for is the killer, of course, once you've asked yourself that question.

my preliminary guesses are: some kind of creative activity; the possibility (however faint) of some future loving connection with somebody; continuing my vision quest for the hell of it; fear of the alternative

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link

i think BB there is a time to swim guiltlessly in nostalgia and a time to GET OUT OF THE POOL AND DRY YOUR HAIR and only ourselves can be the real judge of that

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 09:18 (ten years ago) link

not making assumptions about people's hairedness, let's just say "dry whatever bits need drying"

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 09:20 (ten years ago) link

I found my "reason to live for" when I was 15 and locked up in the loony hutch. Some local theatre class at a community college decided it would be an awesome idea to put on their dress rehearsal of a musical at our loony bin ("let's do the show right here!") It was Fame. I was a 15 year old in a Sid Vicious shirt. I *HATED* it. But I looked at those fuckers on that stage singing that stupid "I'm gonna live forever, I'm gonna learn how to fly... HIGH!" bullshit, and I thought "if they can get to do this, with that crap, there is a place for me to do my crap." My parents had to get a special dispensation from my shrink to bring in a guitar, just in case I hung myself with the strings or something, but when they put a guitar in my hands, I came *alive* again, and I found a reason to go on living.

Without that, I got nothing.

^^^this of course, is a lie, and one of the biggest thoughtworms I have spent LOLtherapy deconstructing.

Future loving connection: LOL this is a joke to me. I've never found it in the past, why would I find it in the future? Who wants a crazy mixed up boy-girl whose idea of foreplay is wearing waistcoats and watching videos of Image Bands? Well, some people, in the past, but either I had the wrong genitals or they did. This is a pipe dream. I need bouze to overcome the revulsion of mine own body enough to have sex, and bouze is a no go. So not gonna happen.

Fear of the alternative: DING DING DING DING DING DING correct answer buzzer.

I don't know if this is swim guiltlessly in nostalgia time or if it's GET OUT OF THE POOL AND DRY YOUR HAIR time. (That is a great metaphor, BTW.) I think it is "see some people in the real world" time but my few friends are busy, busy, busy and I am so terrible at contacting people and saying "I know I suck and am hard fucking work but can I have an hour or two of your time?"

~Autotelic Fabulousity~ (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 09:55 (ten years ago) link

There was a ~Makerhood~ thing in Streatham last night, and I should really have gone, and talked to people about opportunities and how to print tea towels and fridge magnets, but I didn't find out about it until this morning when it was all over.

Anyway, I fucking hate the ~MAKER~ cult and all its artisanal bullshit, I mean, fuck capital A Art too but fuck ~MAKERS~ even more ugh ugh ugh and the talk was on "how to keep your creativity flowing" which is such bull bull bull crap. I do not need talks on how to ~keep your creativity flowing~ I need talks on how to get your ~creativity~ to STFU and go the fuck to sleep because it is 2am and I need to do stuff tomorrow. When's *that* talk on, huh. Blech.

~Autotelic Fabulousity~ (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 10:00 (ten years ago) link

i guess all that stuff is just other people's way of dealing with the pointlessness, to a large extent. it's still bollocks, obv.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 10:55 (ten years ago) link

True. On both points.

Today's salient lyric is "timeless like a broken watch" but I don't need to deconstruct that like "weightless semiotics"; I just know.

~Autotelic Fabulousity~ (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 11:25 (ten years ago) link

<mumbling>This is apropos, I just realized last night that since quitting drinking, I've been going back and listening to old high school favorites nightly. Maybe I'm subconsciously trying to recapture some electric feeling that is shared by booze and melodic/anthemic rock.
One big realization I have come to is that my alcohol intake was a surrogate for meaningful activity/interaction.. or more precisely the cravings for booze were just masking/distorting my cravings for satisfaction/peace/happiness.. So yeah, the power of the social aspect of AA/etc is something I didn't fully comprehend until recently.. it's as if there's a lot of material/baggage that the booze suppressed for years and you need some kind of social lattice to grab on to so the torrent of thoughts/emotions don't overwhelm..
Good thoughts, both yall.

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link

and to you too. sometimes i get impatient that all that stuff that booze was a surrogate for hasn't come flooding in. but it takes plenty of time to rewire your brain when you've spent so long scrambling it. any social networks that help you unscramble are well worth exploring ime.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link

On iPhone so quick but <3 & good feels to you both. I hear ya.

~Autotelic Fabulousity~ (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link

But hear this: that which is difficult
preserves democracy; you pay respect
to the intelligence of the citizen.
Basics are not condescension. Some
tyrants are great patrons. Let us observe
this and pass on. Certain directives
parody at your own risk.

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 February 2014 13:04 (ten years ago) link

Y O Y can't I explain in adequate terms why I find the whole ~makerhood~ thing so revolting to my LOLtherapist?

COMMODIFY YOUR AUTHENTIC SELF. With this $50 t-shirt from B----- M-------.

I don't think that melodic high school rock anthems have any inherent connection to booze but I do know that music you listened to a *lot* while boozing takes on the emotional charge of booze and can remind you of those highs. Music is the only emotional experience that has ever been real to me.

Combat Herbaceous Intrusions (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link

B----- M-------

Boston Market?

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

~Soft Grunge~ fashion house that lifted one of my designs and whacked it on a t-shirt retailing for $50 a couple of years ago? Guess that's passed out of ILX vernacular now. :-/

Combat Herbaceous Intrusions (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link

I was kidding. I remember the incident, even though I honestly don't know the name of the offending company.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link

I don't actually think it was a faux "home cooking" suburban restaurant chain.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

Oh, OK - sorry! I'm just being ditzy and stupid tonight!

Combat Herbaceous Intrusions (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link

(I don't even know what Boston Market is; I assumed it was something to do with Faneuil Hall?)

Combat Herbaceous Intrusions (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 20 February 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link

Just when I'm thinking that LOLtherapy has stopped working and isn't doing any good, I find myself able to step back and say "I do not have to fight this fight" and RMDE and not jump in. And it feels like a weird exercise of masculinity to be aware that I could win that fight, but still choose not get in the fight.

There's a part of me that wants to protest it's not ~FAIR!!!~ and other people don't have to hold their tongues. But I guess I never really know how much other people do?

Feeling really rather manic is still feeling good at the moment, even though it is like walking around with all emotions set on FULL. Music has such an amazing emotional resonance when I'm like this, it feels like every song is aimed directly at me. Morrison's, bizarrely, was playing I Feel Love when I walked in, and floating round the vegetable aisles feeling ecstatic. Then they played some fantastic 80s ska (they really are ramping up the nostalgia) - one of you would probably know what it was, early 80s, 2-Tone, boy-girl vocals... But it was just like: This! Is the Greatest! Thing! and now I want to bounce around the flat to ska all afternoon just feeding off the energy because fast music is like rocket fuel for me right now. But Spotify no work on my decrepit laptop.

Combat Bodacious Accruals (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 February 2014 11:13 (ten years ago) link

i spent the morning with my eyes shut being guided around outside in the sunshine and it was pretty nice tbh

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:07 (ten years ago) link

The fuck did ye find some sunshine

politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:41 (ten years ago) link

England is stealing all the sunshine away from teh Celts again. Deal with it. :-P

Combat Bodacious Accruals (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:44 (ten years ago) link

it's a pretty nice day here - getting cloudier, but nice dramatic clouds and blustery not freezing wind and lots of intermittent sunshine

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:47 (ten years ago) link

I got hailed on this morning yis shites

politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:49 (ten years ago) link

Why does it always hail on you. Is it because you lied when you were 17?

Combat Bodacious Accruals (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:52 (ten years ago) link

Hail hail the celts are here, surely

politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:54 (ten years ago) link

If you're Irish come into the parlour (because it's hailing outside)

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:57 (ten years ago) link

Yeah well it serves you right for blowing "Gaels" (best misspelling ever) at Cornwall and Wales last week.

Combat Bodacious Accruals (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 February 2014 12:58 (ten years ago) link

Blue-ears batteredday

politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2014 13:00 (ten years ago) link

although the practice of Empire is continually bathed in blood, the concept of Empire is always dedicated to peace - a perpetual and universal peace outside of history.

in the dead heart of the pax Romana, 2014 AD

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 February 2014 11:14 (ten years ago) link

thank fukk there's no pills x x

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link

I can lend you a Boring Machine if you'd like.

Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 08:47 (ten years ago) link

k that was not a great place :/

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 09:25 (ten years ago) link

3:41 am seldom is, baeb

Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 09:26 (ten years ago) link

they're only red from all the things i could've done instead

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 09:31 (ten years ago) link

I fear the Boring Machine is turning me into a giant ball of sexual frustration.

Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 08:47 (ten years ago) link

i am kinda equal parts sexual frustration and loss of all sense of myself as a sexual being most days

the immortal jellyfish will never die (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 08:50 (ten years ago) link

can deal with it when i'm not makeing bad booze decisions tho, and the weather is lovely today

the immortal jellyfish will never die (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 08:53 (ten years ago) link

is a Boring Machine like Professor Challenger's Pain Machine?

the immortal jellyfish will never die (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 08:55 (ten years ago) link

No, it just bores. It's making a sinkhole in my street, right outside my bedroom window. So watch it bore, all day long. They whack it with great rhythmic metal clanging and it goes all Neubauten. Then they pull it out and rub it all over with slurry or something. It's pretty... mesmerising. And not really boring at all.

Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 09:36 (ten years ago) link

no that sounds good. it could be a Pain Machine tho if it bores down deep enough. assuming the Earth is a big old sea urchin.

i'm a subject; you're a object (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 09:37 (ten years ago) link

Now I am thinking of Duran Duran's machine from Barbarella and I need to go and listen to some Interpol or something.

Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 09:43 (ten years ago) link

lol like there isn't an hour of the day where that last bit doesn't hold true

i'm a subject; you're a object (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 09:44 (ten years ago) link

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i'm a subject; you're a object (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 09:45 (ten years ago) link

I haven't listened to Interpol in three whole days! It was driving me literally, like, Barneywaves crazy. I needed to prove I could quit any time, and so I did. I'm in control of this crush, OK. I'm on top of it.

Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 09:46 (ten years ago) link

(OK, I caved, I slipped in a naughty little Our Love To Admire just now. If I know it's so bad for me, why does it feel so good to do it? Can one get addicted to the feeling of naughtiness and doing something one knows one shouldn't?)

Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 10:32 (ten years ago) link

a language that likes to use a Teutonic word for the actual thing, and a Romance word for its reflexion

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 08:37 (ten years ago) link

I am stupid and you are going to have to explain me "reflexion" in that usage.

Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 09:18 (ten years ago) link

Forgot to check my work/headhunter email for a week, and the headhunter I thought had forgotten me because she didn't ring, emailed me over a week ago. Guess that job has gone by now. I'm not filled with confidence because the idea of going back to work in finance makes me want to slit my wrists. But, still, it makes me feel like a complete nubbin because I didn't check my email for a week. Basically chucked my entire life aside for a month, for a project I now think was a complete waste of time and oh, now all the panic and the bleurgh has come back.

Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 10:17 (ten years ago) link

i think "reflexion" was just a vagary of that translation tbh

i'm terrible at checking my emails, keeping in touch with people, being in the work world etc

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:03 (ten years ago) link

in fact this morning i was gonna write some kind of "i need to stay off ILX and stop recycling my maundering thoughts because altho i thought this wd help me stay sane it doesn't really go anywhere and i am never going to come to terms with who i am in the world" most of which was true as true but i wd add a caveat to say not going to come to terms with the world itself, and the world doesn't care whether any of us do that

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:06 (ten years ago) link

but today i found out about this

BiTrektual is the ninth album by Cuban American dark cabaret/dark wave singer Voltaire. It was released on September 2, 2012, opening pre-orders from July 30, 2012 on his website, Voltaire.net, until the official release. It is filled with Voltaire's Star Wars and Star Trek parody songs, including "Docking Bay 94", "Yoda (a monologue)", the songs on the album Banned on Vulcan from 2001, and the main track, "BiTrektual". It is available on iTunes and CDbaby.

Actors Garrett Wang (Ensign Kim), Tim Russ (Tuvok), and Robert Picardo (the holographic doctor from Voyager) contributed vocals to tracks on the album.[1]

The cover features Voltaire dressed as Obi-Wan Kenobi kissing Sulu.

and tho i don't know what to make of it i feel like it makes the world better

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:11 (ten years ago) link

I was wondering if it was an archaic spelling or if it meant something technical.

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:07 (ten years ago) link

it's a footnote from Capital so i think it's either an archaic or American spelling for "reflection" - have seen the same observation with regards to words like "pig" and "pork" or "cow" and "beef"

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:15 (ten years ago) link

I've seen lots of things in e.g. Jane Austen with "connexion" instead of "connection" so I think it's probably just archaic.

£60,000 a year for a Senior SAP BO BI. I don't even understand what some of these job descriptions mean. That sounds like something off Teletubbies.

What does "really going anywhere" actually mean, like what activities are actually ~worth it~, anyway? What would you be doing in its place? What is the point of doing anything? Because you get paid for it, because it makes you happy, because it brings you closer to the people you care about? Because it makes other people's lives a millimetre better?

Or recording Star Trek parody songs. That's got to make some people very very happy.

But I am currently having lighthouse envy.

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link

I mean, the whole Romance = posh / Germanic = common thing, it's like... yeah, see my screen name. There's a whole history of language and oppression you're just ignoring there.

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:18 (ten years ago) link

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/engineer-outlines-dangers-of-throwing-items-at-lingerie-parties-1.1711230

sorry it's not as good, but i thought you might want kept updated with the case

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:20 (ten years ago) link

xp

absolutely as far as the Anglo-Saxons being a colonial power themselves, that Romance/Germanic thing only holds true if at all within English as it exists today

i guess "not going anywhere" meant "tired of watching myself chase my own tail" - tho i know there are knots i have unraveled, a little, over the last couple of years

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:21 (ten years ago) link

"Hunks of Desire". *dies*

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:24 (ten years ago) link

Where would we go if we didn't chase our tails? Where is there to go?

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:25 (ten years ago) link

yeah it's true. gazing out our navels is less frenetic maybe

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:26 (ten years ago) link

chasing our tails is at least a box ticked on a daily activities log, give us that

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link

Barry Tennyson, an engineer who gave technical evidence on Ms Deehan’s behalf, said it was dangerous for a prize to be thrown among a group of adults in a circulation area at a venue where alcohol is served.

That demon drink! And certainly naught to do with the cockrings.

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:28 (ten years ago) link

An engineer has told the High Court a “proper risk assessment” should be carried out in advance of throwing items in the air at Ann Summers lingerie parties where alcohol is being served. He was not saying such parties should be banned, Barry Tennyson said.

oh god thank you thank you content delivered

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link

Who The Celts Really Are: killing each other over cockrings subsection, "proper risk assessment".

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link

i feel bad for Ms Deehan no doubt being pressured by friends and loved ones to keep quiet lest they get banned from the pub but this is the kind of case that ends up ruining things for everybody

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link

lol it's the story that keeps on giving

Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link

bb you will have seen the original story i hope?

check the local news story everyone must know about thread

follow on from toast thread-

nv what i really need, and i feel you may have thoughts on this, is a supervisor to whom i must (for whatever reason) report to who will tell me that i absolutely must do all of the things i currently do to procrastinate, or those behaviours that are what'll i call them- less than optimisational ito my personal goals, when i bother to have any. if that supervisor would set me actual deadlines missing good night's sleeps (ie "get less than 7 hours on no less than 3 occasions before tuesday") or idk "Eat at least 500gm of scottish shortbreads this weekend" or "that football manager game hasn't been loaded since *checks* friday last? get something done, we'll check back next week" type of thing.

maybe i'll imagine one telling me to post to ilx, idk

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:35 (ten years ago) link

do you really think you procrastinate out of perversity? i'm pretty sure i end up doing what i'd rather be doing, most of the time, except when i have to compromise cos i can't do exactly what i'd rather be doing at this precise moment

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:38 (ten years ago) link

like if someone told me to buy cheap hot cross buns in Asda on my way home then butter, jam, clotted cream and shovel it down it wd not make me not to do that just to be awkward

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link

i think it could be the iota of grit that i could insert into my gastric system and mull over to produce and oyster, but it takes all sorts and maybe, idk maybe this new system i'm proposing isn't for you

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:44 (ten years ago) link

PSYCH I'M DOIN IT TO U RIGHT NOW

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:44 (ten years ago) link

I end up back on ILX because I'm lonely. And even highly mediated social contact is better than no social contact at all. I am not procrastinating anything here, because this is what my life is now. I write about having a life, on the internet, instead of having a life. Right, I'm off to go and make lunch.

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:44 (ten years ago) link

(Except I'm not, I'm procrastinating even making lunch by reading about lighthouses on Hoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graemsay )

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:47 (ten years ago) link

I end up back on ILX because I'm lonely. And even highly mediated social contact is better than no social contact at all.

feeling this largely, tho my case is different and it's not my only social outlet, it's frequently the easiest

I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 13:56 (ten years ago) link

I no longer know if ILX is the cure for loneliness, or just another symptom. :-/

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link

Oh. It's that day for me to get my "THE CELTS!!!!1" schtick on again.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh85oMdCAAAFMBi.jpg

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:20 (ten years ago) link

You forgot DRECKLY ;-)

baked beings on toast (suzy), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 10:01 (ten years ago) link

Dreckly is Cornish dialect, but not Kernewek proper. Anyway, take it up with the Bowgie Inn, I nicked it off them.

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 10:54 (ten years ago) link

I actually have a pint of Doom Bar for tonight. Though I'm going to lock myself off the interweb so I don't celebrate my Cornish heritage by getting in a knock-down fight with a SWF speller.

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 10:59 (ten years ago) link

do you really think you procrastinate out of perversity?

my therapist sent me home to read these procrastination worksheets last year:
http://www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/resources/infopax.cfm?Info_ID=50
(warning, not for those with allergies to self-help bollocks or bad grammar)

which, I dunno, I didn't put the effort in to actually turn my life around or anything, but I guess I found it interesting to ponder Different Reasons Why I Might Be Like I Am endlessly from some new angles <-- sentences which summarise my therapy experience and entire life to date

anyway "not wanting others to tell me what to do because how dare they control me" was one of the options, think I was mostly ticking "not doing it bcz I'm scared I'll be rubbish at it" but was scared it might secretly be the former and I was only flattering myself

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 11:43 (ten years ago) link

(xpost oh wow, Cornish orthography fights, that is some good new procrastination fuel. thank you!)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 11:44 (ten years ago) link

there are definitely things i do because i'm told not do them by lamesters, but i'm pretty sure i like doing most of the procrastinatey things i do, even if i regret them afterwards?

this crosses over with my thought-theme for the morning, which is something along the lines of "does being interested in too many different fields of knowledge leave you dilettantishly paddling without ever experiencing the joy of expertise?" or something like that only, y'know, expressed more clearly

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 11:51 (ten years ago) link

a thought which occurred to me as i tried to read the Cambridge Ancient History and got sidetracked through orders of magnitude in physics, deep drilling expeditions, the Challenger deep and something about worms, while a side corridor was wondering about the availability and usefulness of careers advice for barely-qualified wasters in their mid 40s

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 11:55 (ten years ago) link

plus ILXy miscellanea, obv

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 11:55 (ten years ago) link

oh also spacecadet DANKE! those "imagine being less ineffectual" pdfs look like essential reading

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 11:57 (ten years ago) link

bitte sehr! I hope you get something out of them - I shd probably revisit them myself tbh

I also sometimes think I have too many mild interests which I only have a very shallow knowledge/appreciation of, and then sometimes I think I actually have v few interests but have still managed not to engage adequately with any of them

just as one minute I tell myself life is hard because I was made to feel unacceptable, and then the next I tell myself life is hard because I was patted on the head always for showing only my shallow interests in unexpected fields, without ever needing to engage more deeply, and maybe it would have helped to be made to work for praise a little more

lyfe is contradictory, maan (watch me go in circles itt like I have been in my head forever)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 12:14 (ten years ago) link

*bookmarks procrastination forms to read when I get a chance*

~KK 4EVAH!!!~

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 12:37 (ten years ago) link

when Aristophanes' frogs say "Brekekek" is he implying they are of Cornish descent y/n?

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 13:07 (ten years ago) link

Are cornichons cornish

Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link

Brekekek? Sound suspiciously Breton to me!

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 13:42 (ten years ago) link

So I read about halfway through the procrastination worksheets before I fucking gave up.

And it boils down to the fundamental reason why Workbook Therapy does not work for me: MY REASON IS NOT ON THEIR LIST.

These workbooks, they always act like the entirety of human experience is able to be boiled down to about 5 or 6 general groups, with a short list under each one, and if you find your problem on the list and category, then they will have the therapy that will work for you, and if you just follow all their helpful exercises, then you will be cured. And if your problem isn't on their list? OH WHOA THERE YOU SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE YOU ARE JUST NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH.

I should probably skip ahead to further pages, and see if I can glean any helpful tips (what? you're going to tell me to make lists, and cross them off? NOOOO, OMG I had never thought of that in my entire life, not since fifth grade.) But it's like... when the authors have already subdivided human psychology into categories, and made it plain that I'm not in any of their neat and careful categories, what use will it be to me, to read any of the rest of it?

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 10:54 (ten years ago) link

honestly i didn't get that from the tone of the first couple of sheets. i'm not saying i think their process will be useful to me but they do go out of their way to acknowledge that the why can be v varied and isn't necessarily related to the efficacy of the attempt to change yr habits

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 10:56 (ten years ago) link

NOPE.

OK, this is one of my no-go zones. When a straight white dude starts telling me about "tone" that I can read that they can't, or vice versa, that is my cue that this is not a conversation that I can be in, no matter what the conversation is about.

Sorry I brought it up.

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:07 (ten years ago) link

xps ive not looked at em, but thats not procrastinating thats just naah iykwim

Has it/similar worked for anyone tho? Out of interest.

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:28 (ten years ago) link

BB i apologize, i was talking purely from my own perspective.

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:38 (ten years ago) link

£60,000 a year for a Senior SAP BO BI. I don't even understand what some of these job descriptions mean. That sounds like something off Teletubbies.

I can probably (some of the descriptions are thrash an the recruiting is weird in BI) tell you a bit about what it means :) So do you know Business Objects?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:42 (ten years ago) link

Thanks, NV, I appreciate the apology though it wasn't necessary. I know you didn't mean anything bad by it, it's just one of those words that (especially if I am in a bad place) just tips me into an untenable place, where I"m reacting to stuff in *my* past, rather than anything necessarily in the other person's statement.

I don' know Business Objects, xyzzzz, I know Crystal, which was a bad career choice along the way somewhere because it seems like BO has bought out Crystal and almost completely taken its market share? I feel "out of the loop" because although Crystal was my area of expertise, I haven't used it in, like, 2 years.

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 12:02 (ten years ago) link

(Basically, what it comes down to for me, with procrastination is one of two things: 1) if I don't see the point of doing something, I don't do it. No matter what the thing is. And there's a sliding scale of existential dread in my own head of what I consider "pointless" depending on the dread-o-meter whether that's "why should I change the sheets when they'll just get dirty again next week" or "why should I get out of bed when the sea is rising and we're all going to die anyway". 2) the complete lack of meaningful any social contact in my life, which means that tiny sparks of contact are way more important than paying the council tax bill on time. God why am I even still typing. I should go and take a shower. Why should I bother taking a shower? My hair will only get dirty again tomorrow. My shrink probably won't really care if I turn up this afternoon stinking with dirty hair anyway. It doesn't matter if I hit submit on this post. It doesn't matter if I don't hit submit on this post. Why am I even doing this. This sounds like a joke, but really, it isn't. This is my life.)

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 12:06 (ten years ago) link

having sat in a classroom full of semi-interested business apprentices this morning discussing the nature of customer service and values, believe me, i am on intimate terms with "what's the point of this i'm going home to play Football Manager"

landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 12:07 (ten years ago) link

Hmm, hadn't thought about it but "not going to because I don't see the point" sounds a little like me too. But then so did all the existing reasons: none of them leapt out at me as definitely my reason, but they all made me go "hmm, yeah, a little bit of that I guess".

But yeah, while I found the reasons interesting to consider, the actual suggested actions (i.e. to-do lists) were not a great deal of help. I didn't make it to the last two worksheets so eh maybe I missed the magical fix-my-life page. Let's hope there is a magical fix-my-life page out there somewhere, right?

If only I liked Effort & Fixing as much as Contemplation & Taxonomising.

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 6 March 2014 12:09 (ten years ago) link

I don' know Business Objects, xyzzzz, I know Crystal, which was a bad career choice along the way somewhere because it seems like BO has bought out Crystal and almost completely taken its market share? I feel "out of the loop" because although Crystal was my area of expertise, I haven't used it in, like, 2 years.

Well mergers & acquisitions (& fake trends) are a part of life in this field.

I would say you could try R? I haven't myself, just been lamely looking at the pretty pictures - its open source so..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2014 12:18 (ten years ago) link

Yeah i always recognise a wee bit of my own lack of application in your descriptions aps, kind of not 'big questions whats the point stuff' but 'meh my eyes keep sliding off this shit im off'

CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 12:30 (ten years ago) link

I am going to have to muse through this "what is the point of this, going home to play football manager" because I say that I fucking LOOOAAATHE videogames (mostly because a long-term meaningful person in my life started using them as a way to block me - and everyone else in their life - out) but last week my LOLtherapist suggested that I might treat my novel-writing exactly the same way. Something so all-powerfully consuming that I get completely engrossed and forget the rest of my life when doing it.

And what, really, is the difference between Football Manager and writing-a-novel? Both are about totally enveloping world-building and exercising control over your environment. I guess I hate videogames for the same reason I hate all games - I do not find "points" (LOL) to be an adequate Point, in terms of driving my behaviour or making me do something. Gameification is wasted on me. I don't want "points" or "goals" - how fucking Pointless is that? I even hate the *language* of games/sports - "points" and "goals" attached to completely meaningless things and used to drive a contest over nothing. Meh. (But whoa, if you talk to me about The Charts, and "what is the motivation of this character" - his motivation is, he wants a Number One Record! "What is the point of a number one record, I don't see why he wants it?" and I guess trying to understand why my character wants a Number One Record is as pointless as trying to understand why a football player wants to score a goal.)

But what is the goal of a novel, anyway? What is the point of a story? It is just filling up time before you die, like everything else. Just as pointless as playing a videogame, really, so why do I even do it. Why do I do it so compulsively, to the exclusion of everything else. (because it is the one thing that makes me HAPPY.)

What am I even talking about, at this point. Get to the point. Score points. What the fuck are points anyway. Bring in Euclid.

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:03 (ten years ago) link

I have lost my inherent motivation to learn new programming skills like R, or whatever, as well.

Like, if I was at a job, and someone stuck it in front of me and said "this will probably be useful for this task" I'd get the book and learn it, because, really how hard can it be. That's always how I acquire job skills. Because I need it for a task. Someone stuck SAS on my computer once, and I learned it in a couple of afternoons, because it was there. But the idea of going and learning SAS or Business Objects because I might need it to get a new job? What on earth would possess me to do a thing like that.

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:07 (ten years ago) link

The licence costs would be prohibitive for a start as far as BO and SAS I think..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:10 (ten years ago) link

I should think like a programmer more often, though.

Because Contemplation and Taxonomising is only the first thing you do when confronted with a bug. You think "hmmm, what could be causing this bug" and go through all of the potential reasons (oh my god, is this that date format issue ~again~) but really, the only thing that actually fixes bugs is to sit down with the code line by line and go "did that fix it?" Nope. Try again. "Did that fix it?" Nope. Try again. "Did that fix it?" Nope. Try again. "Did that fix it?" OH MY GOD IT JUST COMPILED HALLELUJAH PRAISE CTHULHU while your boss is still sitting there talking about second stage normalisation and you're like "Nope, it was a semi colon in the wrong place, the end."

But, y'know, life doesn't come with a compile button where you can try out putting the semi-colon at the end of another line and see if it runs before you commit. Too bad.

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:12 (ten years ago) link

I wouldn't buy a license, xyzzzz, you just buy the book and learn it!

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:14 (ten years ago) link

(Granted, some of those books are like £30, £40 yeesh, I would have to be pretty sure I wanted to learn it before investigating)

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link

Don't know tbh I just learn on the job and read on the job too.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:18 (ten years ago) link

But in my time where I'm not doing as much open source is good to occupy yourself with. Just d/l, yes get a book and start practising...but you do need motivation for all that..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:22 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I am pretty sceptical of any other method, TBH. x-post now...

Like, once, exactly once, my boss paid for me to go on a course to learn how to do MySQL administration. And the teacher actually spent the 20 minutes before class started, reading the Daily Mail aloud in the classroom and complaining about ~feminists~ and ~immigrants~ (come on, couldn't you have got in a dig about LGBT ppl as well, so I could go for the full hat trick) and all I learned in that class was WOW AM I EVER NOT WELCOME HERE so I left the second morning and told my boss to ask for his money back. So I have never "trained" to use software or gone for certification ever fucking again.

Not that I'm bitter that this fucking shit happens, in, y'know, 2010, or anything. But that really cooled my ardour for learning any new skills anywhere except with a book.

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link

Couple of courses I have gone to learn toolsets have been well run, no bullshit or cert exam -- although you had an option of taking that at a later date. The exam itself is piss easy and its just a piece of paper the PM can see before justifying the cost of taking you on.

But the course is a starting point, you really learn on the day-to-day grind of trying to meet a requirement.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:35 (ten years ago) link

or day-to-night, I should say.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:36 (ten years ago) link

This is why I'm beating myself up over procrastinating my way out of the running for that other job. Because it was exactly-my-skillset they were looking for, so I would have been perfect for that role.

But, then again, I should know by now that if I accept a job which is currently perfect-for-my-skillset, with no *stretch* involved, I am gonna be bored out of my mind and looking to leave after 6 months, so it's swings and roundabouts.

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link

Ill.

I'm supposed to go and get my blood drawn (for god knows what nefarious ends) but I figure they probably don't want my virusy blood in the place. My fault for going to the doctor. Every time I go to that bloody doctor's office, I get sick. :(

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Friday, 7 March 2014 09:08 (ten years ago) link

i had some thinks about game-playing but they've gone this morning. something to do with toys/games and play as a doll's house everything-in-its-right-place exercise as opposed to point-scoring in its oneupmanship sense and some weak jokes about playing with yrself as opposed to beating off other people

i often think similar things to what you said about playing/making art, except i'm stuck on the playing side of it when i'd like to do some making too. but playing can be a bit like making sand mandalas i think

have you heard of Mihály Csíkszentmihályi and his writings about "Flow"? - [pause for a second while Beyonce sings "Blow" in my head] - this stuff has probably been perverted to evil managementspeak ends already but it is quite zen-y and interesting to me even as it states something apparently obvious (which is also a zen-y thing to do i guess)

Nooye's Vagge (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 09:16 (ten years ago) link

Yes, I have read Flow (and should probably dig it out and read it again) and understand about flow states and their appeal.

I dunno, I've been thinking about games vs play, as well. And I think I'm lying if I say that points don't appeal to me. Because I certainly do check AO3 almost every day to see what the read count of each story is, and how many kudoses they have got, which is a very gameified activity, really. AO3 readers don't leave comments as much as other sites, but it sure is nice to get dished out some big fat kudoses, and what is a "kudos" except a point scoring system.

I suppose what I don't like about sports/games/etc is that the rules are so arbitrary and made up by someone else. It's not as if I don't understand the appeal of constraints (that sand mandala thing, the pleasure, I think, comes from following the rules/constraints and the orderlyness of it). The thing is, I actually think that's why I *prefer* writing fan fiction to writing real fiction, specifically *because* of the constraints. That your rules are reality, and ~this is what happened~ and you have to either fit your story completely within that framework - or justify why you haven't (and some fanbases will really call you out if you get things wrong) Which I guess is "everything in its right place" kind of rules.

It's funny, though, because "making" always has its own rules, no matter what it is that you are making. There really is no such thing as free-form making, no matter what ~experimental artists~ try to tell you. And working out what the rules of your genre is half the full of operating in it.

Oh god that was the doctor on the phone wanting to know why I hadn't had my blood tests, leave me alone you vampires. And no, I don't know what I weigh, and I don't care what I weight and that's very deliberate, leave me alone.

my stories are boring and stuff (Branwell Bell), Friday, 7 March 2014 09:45 (ten years ago) link

God I hate having my blood taken. No one can ever EVER find a vein on the first go.

I feel like I should start to tell phlebotomoists: that tasty vein all the way over on the left, don't go for that one. There is no blood in it. Every single one always goes for that vein and then says to me, mystified "I don't understand why I can't get blood from this vein." You know what, it's not a real vein. I only grew it to psych you out. Please try another. Ouch.

lol aww

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 10 March 2014 13:31 (ten years ago) link

I have no post I just wanted to say "Blue Mar 10"

(yes, I get quite the pummeling whenever I go for a blood test too. "hmm, well, I guess we'll try the other arm again" oh yeah great.)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 10 March 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link

i am getting quite a knack for telling other people how to help themselfs

whilst casually contemplating oblivion

first rule of franco club (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 09:19 (ten years ago) link

Well yknow youve got that helpful outside perspective there, imo

unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 10:01 (ten years ago) link

Do I feel blue bcz someone wants some impossible work done, and I have to tell them no, contravening a belief that it is not nice to tell people no and people won't like me?

Or do I feel blue bcz my boss talked over me repeatedly when I tried to explain why the work was impossible (despite agreeing), then when I finally finished my sentence went all "well it's no good talking to me, hurry up and x", thus triggering my narcissistic "how dare someone not find my thoughts worthwhile!" reflex, and then some sad "it is vulgar to have this centre-of-the-universe reflex" thoughts?

Also I am a twat because I said something I wouldn't have said if I knew my boss was in the room. Quite a few somethings actually. Nothing outright personal but I listed a billion things I was behind on and complained about moving goalposts with a petulant tone. I am dumm.

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 13:11 (ten years ago) link

In my universe, it's not nice to ask for impossible things. Saying no to impossible things is therefore not 'not-nice', it is nice, because nots, like negatives, cancel each other out.

I have spent the morning cleaning the flat to prepare for the upstairs neighbours' mice-man visit tomorrow. Because I couldn't find New Order's Substance (my default house-cleaning music) I ended up sticking the Joy Division on instead. I got So! Much! Cleaning! Done! Until I decided that JD was such good house-cleaning music I should listen to Closer. Oh boy was that a bad idea. That is not house-cleaning musics.

I hope you feel less blue.

"Endemic. What does that mean, man?" (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link

TBH lately I don't feel so much blue as that I have a few recurring personal failures I should be blue about and I can't quite motivate myself to feel bad about them, never mind fix them. But this was a convenient thread for one of the short bolts of blue.

I never really liked JD's Substance until the day I put it on while house-cleaning. It must be good cleaning music, I guess.

Good luck with the mice-man!

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

"I feel it foaming in... I feel it foaming in... Soap In! Dirt out! Soap in! Dirt ooouuuuuuut!!!"

(sorry)

"Endemic. What does that mean, man?" (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link

Apropos of nothing: I just had the sudden realisation (which I wish I had had many years earlier, but there you go) that when someone tells me that *I* am "feeling" (or, rather, expressing) some emotions in my words that I am neither feeling, nor indeed expressing, what they are actually telling me is that *they* are feeling that emotion.

"Endemic. What does that mean, man?" (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/34255006.jpg

blue, blue, electric blue, that's the colour of my room

first rule of franco club (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 March 2014 08:42 (ten years ago) link

Blue, blue, electric blue, that's the colour of my rocks, where I will... go and punch rocks until I learn to stop shooting my fucking mouth off at trolls again.

I got trolled. Again. Do not allow yourself to get trolled. Repeat to fade. I need some pictures of hott post-punk guitarists right about now. :(

"Endemic. What does that mean, man?" (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 13 March 2014 08:56 (ten years ago) link

I am well aware that I have a massive fucking key sticking out of my back, saying "Wind here" which is inescapable and unavoidable, and I can actually physically feel it when someone is winding it, enough to know I'm being wound.

But I guess, sometimes it's not actually a case of someone winding that key, it's more like it's a case of I'm already wound up and need some kind of data-core-dump release of saying the shit on my mind, and it's not actually *that* specific case of that idiot troll winding, but more that the spring needs to get unwound and I'm going to unwind it on them.

Oops, I did it again. I need to go and deal with the mice-man now.

"Endemic. What does that mean, man?" (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 13 March 2014 08:59 (ten years ago) link

"I have used several tools to think about and identify my career and personal goals. I find it difficult to think about what I want or what I need to do to achieve this. I feel as though I am stuck permanently in an irksome present, with no future to aspire to and all possible dreams of fulfilment rendered impossible through lack of income, lack of opportunity, lack of willpower. I would talk about aboulia but this would perhaps be melodramatic – another character trait which offers no help in obtaining more remunerative employment in the future.

Not that I consider myself directly motivated by financial gain. It’s just that I have basic needs that require money. I need somewhere to live, I need to be able to eat, I need to be able to pay for utilities and water. That probably covers the sum of my absolute needs. I would class payment of maintenance for my children as an absolute need but accept that in the strictest sense it isn’t necessary for my continued existence. However, since my fundamental rationale for existing is to support my children into adulthood we should consider maintenance as a more or less absolute need."

seem to have wandered off-track. still cannot identify personal or career goals.

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 09:57 (ten years ago) link

Is there a natural linear progression from the point you are now to a specific future role or do you have the freedom (in theory) to take it in different directions?

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Friday, 14 March 2014 10:06 (ten years ago) link

there's no role in my organization that wd interest me, i'm 45 and i've got virtually zero marketable skills to speak of.

this is probably not my best day for self-analysis.

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 10:11 (ten years ago) link

actually the reality is i have a few "goals" that are so unlikely to be achieved that they might as well come under the category of daydreams

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 10:13 (ten years ago) link

i shd probably focus all my energies on making life changes to get me where i want to go but a) what little energies i have are just about hanging on to the job i'm in and b) there's not meant to be any escape from this, silly

there's a bunch of physical/mental stuff happening at the moment that i'm trying to put right - can't sleep, can't eat, can't do much - maybe when i do that clarity will descend

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 10:18 (ten years ago) link

books and sunshine and peace is all i want. surrounded by a mass acceptance that these are unreasonable demands.

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 10:20 (ten years ago) link

i seem to be working in this environment with an underlying tone of "fuck weakness" which is totally not what this job shd be but also totally not okay for me. embrace weakness. let's all be feeble together and let the strong go off and butt each other to death.

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 10:24 (ten years ago) link

this is our society now more than ever, be useful or get out

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 10:24 (ten years ago) link

lol disjointed Friday meltdowns

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 10:25 (ten years ago) link

Setting goals and working toward them is part of leading a normal life.

srsly i don't think i know anybody

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 11:10 (ten years ago) link

<3 NV

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 14 March 2014 11:13 (ten years ago) link

Jobs are disgraceful, goals are disgraceful, unreasonable demands are the only reasonable option left. <3 u

"Endemic. What does that mean, man?" (Branwell Bell), Friday, 14 March 2014 12:57 (ten years ago) link

thanks :)

just got that fuzzy head, don't know what it is. do other people regularly have whole days where they can't think straight to the extent of not being able to do work tasks properly? i'm trying to straighten my sleep out and hope that makes it go away but it's horrible tbh, i can't explain to not fuzzy-headed people that being crap isn't a lifestyle choice.

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 13:54 (ten years ago) link

stupid rhetorical question. i know people get this thing. what is it and how do you make it go away?

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 13:57 (ten years ago) link

Fuzzy head with intervals of sharp self loathing and blowing streaks of uselessness is my number one side effect of sleeplessness. It gets really rough for me during the seasonal change times of the year, like in 40 years my brain hasn't figured out that days get shorter and then they get longer again. :-/

"Endemic. What does that mean, man?" (Branwell Bell), Friday, 14 March 2014 13:57 (ten years ago) link

i seem to be working in this environment with an underlying tone of "fuck weakness" which is totally not what this job shd be but also totally not okay for me.

Time will tell but my current employer seems to hire for, and respect, emotional labor, and their motto for how employees should feel is "safe, warm, and secure." And this doesn't seem to be just talk? It should be a condition of most/all workplaces, to respect the humanity of humans, but it feels revolutionary.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 14 March 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

do other people regularly have whole days where they can't think straight to the extent of not being able to do work tasks properly?

With me this is usually down to some kind of depressive episode, I've had quite a lot of days like this over the last couple of months. Should mention that was largely down to my own failures as a human being so it was a deserved depression if there is such a thing.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 14 March 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

we're not always fair judges of ourselves when we're depressed tho

at least i'm catching this early and taking steps, i dunno what else one cd do

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link

I got signed off work for a week and went to stay with friends for a couple of days, and the doc temporarily upped my prozac although I didn't really maintain that as long as they wanted me to because I don't feel very good on anything over the minimum dose, but that helped a lot. I'm not saying that would help everyone of course and not everyone has access to friends who are able to put you up at short notice like that. In my case it just happens one of my best friends is currently off work with M.E. so they were around and could've used some company anyway.

Re judging selves, yes totally agree normally but in this case I did actually act objectively badly. One could argue that was down to my depressed state of mind at the time but in this particular case that's a cop out, not that it always is in such situations.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 14 March 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link

no i know what you mean, i feel like sometimes i walk a fine line between excusing my own worst instincts and beating myself up for the comfort of confirming them

pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link

nv i found sleep issues to be another effect of the drifting rather than anything else, am sleeping much better since starting study.

no idea how i kicked out of drifting and into decision mode ito actually getting to the stage of now being a student tho

unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Friday, 14 March 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link

dmac otm tackling the sleep problem can be be the key to solving a lot of daytime issues

easier said than done of course <3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 March 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link

It might just be the insomnia talking, but I am really not feeling it at the moment.

But I don't know what else to do instead.

Fingerbang On A Can (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 March 2014 05:13 (ten years ago) link

:(

brains shd have evolved some kind of downtime override that doesn't involve Drambuie

fhingerbhangra (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 March 2014 07:15 (ten years ago) link

There are days that ILX is a really fun place to hang out and chat with my mates while ignoring idiocy. And then there are days when the overwhelming negativity and relentless low-level hatred is just a sucking chest wound in my already depleted emotional reservoir. Admittedly, the difference is me, and how much breathing room I have. Not getting enough sleep, not getting enough external social contact, not getting enough basic Maslovian needs met... I am feeling really shitty about my job search. And feeling shitty about it leads to searching less, which means fewer and worse bites from headhunters which means feeling even shittier about it. I don't think *this* helps. Right now I'm not even sure what does (answer: drawing boys) but good god, some reliable way of getting 8 hours instead of 4, that would help.

Fingerbang On A Can (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 March 2014 08:28 (ten years ago) link

i got nothin' that i cd turn into a twinkly Facebook motivational jpeg but you've got all my sympathy BB

fhingerbhangra (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 March 2014 08:45 (ten years ago) link

https://31.media.tumblr.com/025f7f8da6b7e19c23e4f8f77f222b16/tumblr_inline_n2rlweCEi11qklnhw.jpg

"Here's mud in yr eye fingers in your bang, kid"

Fingerbang On A Can (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 March 2014 09:05 (ten years ago) link

meanwhile somebody scanned the Book of Kells

http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?DRIS_ID=MS58_003v

fhingerbhangra (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 March 2014 09:09 (ten years ago) link

which is a bugger cos it's kinda hard to look at discreetly whilst at work

fhingerbhangra (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 March 2014 09:12 (ten years ago) link

books and sunshine and peace is all i want. surrounded by a mass acceptance that these are unreasonable demands.

― pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 March 2014 10:20 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seems perfectly reasonable on a day like this. make some excuse at work, grab your book and take the bus out of the city.

thomasintrouble, Friday, 21 March 2014 10:24 (ten years ago) link

Oh yeah that Kells online thing is amazing and good trippy fun. But not exactly work appropriate, unless your job is actually, Medieval Monk.

Why can't my job be Medieval Monk. I'd be perfectly suited for it. Sing hymns, draw strange beasts, read books, flagellate self. Why is this no longer a career option.

But now looking at the picture of Kessler with a glass of whiskey has awakened whisky rage in me and I waaaaaaant whisky.

I have sunshine and peace and instead of reading books, I'm fretting online. I am a fucking idiot.

Fingerbang On A Can (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 March 2014 10:29 (ten years ago) link

I need to ask cause its been bugging me, who does that guy look like? I think I'm thinking of an actor.

every moser (wins), Friday, 21 March 2014 10:50 (ten years ago) link

Road trip guy, maybe

treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Friday, 21 March 2014 11:10 (ten years ago) link

I looked at it in work! But I work (v. tangentially) on some less glamorous l*br*ry d*g*t*sation projects so I was all set to say "just checking out the competition, yo" if anyone asked. Which they did not. Which is good because that might be the most work-related thing I've spent more than five minutes on all morning. Oh dear.

Had a quite productive Tuesday, although it was a day of new tasks constantly rolling in and being dealt with, not actually getting any longer-term tasks done. All downhill from there...

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 21 March 2014 11:32 (ten years ago) link

it is a beautiful day in Hull. just spent an hour of it discussing how to manage other people's naughty behaviour. god the ironing.

fhingerbhangra (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 March 2014 11:41 (ten years ago) link

Stoner dude from clueless! Right? Kinda.

every moser (wins), Friday, 21 March 2014 11:45 (ten years ago) link

I have never seen Clueless or Road Trip so I am useless at this game but I don't think anyone would appreciate it if I just posted loads of pictures of dude so you could guess who he looks like some more.

Also, headhunters, christ it's terrible when they don't call but it's even more terrible when they do and I am tired of talking to headhunters.

Fingerbang On A Can (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 March 2014 12:08 (ten years ago) link

this thread has had lots of tawdrier things than pictures of dudes you want to commune with in a fingerbanging scenario tbh

fhingerbhangra (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 March 2014 12:12 (ten years ago) link

His GUITAR TONE. I want to commune in a fingerbanging session with his ~guitar tone~.

OK, it would help if he made this face while doing it, but sure.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/1742fe0f5dee956c768ee77ca9d792d6/tumblr_n2rrlekWTg1r6cs0zo4_r1_1280.png

I have been for a walk in the sunshine and it is glorious. I have communed with some blossom and inspected my orchards. Now I have a painting to finish.

Fingerbang On A Can (Branwell Bell), Friday, 21 March 2014 13:24 (ten years ago) link

I have never seen Clueless

m8

every moser (wins), Friday, 21 March 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link

just spent an hour of it discussing how to manage other people's naughty behaviour. god the ironing.

Just spent 45 minutes in a meeting where the manager talked about why it's other people's fault that work isn't getting done. Oh the ironing manager's transparently obvious skiving.

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Friday, 21 March 2014 18:27 (ten years ago) link

OH GOD I NEED TO GO AND DEAL WITH THE COUNCIL TAX PEOPLE.

SPARE ME. JUST FUCKING SPARE ME FROM LAMBETH COUNCIL.

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Monday, 24 March 2014 11:05 (ten years ago) link

I have managed to sort through a year's worth of unfiled billed and bank statements and found the supporting evidence that it is how I said it was, and they fucked up. (I wish I had kept copies of the letters I sent, but stupidly, I did not.)

But I am trying to gather together the nerve and the confidence to actually walk down to the nearest council office (probably to be told that they cannot handle it, and I have to go to Brixton) and attempt to sort it all out. ARGH.

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Monday, 24 March 2014 13:00 (ten years ago) link

too late now but keep copies of everything in future, yeah, they are evil for "losing" paperwork

very important cultural opinions (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 March 2014 13:14 (ten years ago) link

It's entirely possible I have a scan somewhere, but my computer files are even worse than my physical ones. For a pack rat who keeps *everything* I sure am shit at finding things again.

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Monday, 24 March 2014 13:18 (ten years ago) link

i lost a bunch of v important work papers this morning and was right on the cusp of contacting HR to admit i was useless and unsuited for a position in management when i found them

never felt so alive for those 10 minutes

very important cultural opinions (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 March 2014 13:20 (ten years ago) link

Think I need a Red Saturday (or possible Red Monday) thread. Just being in the office makes me constantly annoyed/irritable/sarcastic/a dick.

I need to focus on small mercies like being allowed to cut short my 3 month notice period in half, so at least I only have another 20 working days with these morons. And maybe anger management, but I'm about to start doing CBT next week so maybe that will help I dunno.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 24 March 2014 13:49 (ten years ago) link

Argh, that "I've lost this important thing!!!!" panic, that was yesterday.

I went up to the Community Garden like I always do on Sunday afternoons. I dug up / turned over / pitchforked (we have 200 seed beds for you to weed, right?) this massive plot of earth then went over to drink tea with the other workers. And someone asked me about my bag, and I realised in the course of talking about where I got it, that the pocket where I normally keep my wallet is FLAPPING OPEN with no wallet inside. Cue massive panic because, well, I don't actually think my wallet has been stolen, I think that while I was working on one of the 200 seed beds, my wallet flopped out of the open pocket and got hoed down into the earth and bye-bye bank cards and bus pass and ARGH and I do not want to have to dig up 200 seed beds looking for the damn thing (like, have you seen the damage a pitchfork can do, for real.)

Anyway, they told me to go home and just check and ARGH PANIC RUN THE WHOLE MILE HOME and phew, it was in the pocket of the jacket I was wearing the night before when I'd gone to buy biscuits.

But yeah. Panic. And now I have eaten lunch and have no more excuses and have to go deal with the council. For real.

(Isn't there a "thread where we work out our notice period" for that sort of hell, but if there isn't, argh, Poo, I feel your pain, that sounds shit. Just remember it will be over soon.)

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Monday, 24 March 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link

And lo, this is how I now become benefits scum. This country!

I paid my council tax a bit late last year, but I paid it in full. However, because I paid it by cheque, it cleared in a day past the deadline, and triggered an automated process whereby they took me to court for an amount that was already paid, and whacked me with £127 for the privilege.

And apparently no human being on earth, in the customer service centre, or over the phone, can revoke that charge once it goes on. "I can't pay this! I'm unemployed!" I moaned. "Oh, you're unemployed, you say? Right, then you can apply for Council Tax benefit, which covers the whole amount." I don't want to cover the whole amount with benefits. I want to pay my council tax, but not have to pay a £127 late fee for an amount I already paid. That isn't possible. I can go on benefits for the full council tax, or nothing.

So I am now applying for benefits I don't want to be on. This is fucking stupid.

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Monday, 24 March 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link

Here you go. How much of modern management technique is descended from slavery:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/hbsworkingknowledge/2013/01/16/the-messy-link-between-slave-owners-and-modern-management/

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Monday, 24 March 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link

Fuck councils and their 'automated processes'. Every time I'm £10 in arrears on service charges I get a computer-generated letter threatening the beginning of a repossession process. Imagine some mentally ill person getting one of those and having a fucking heart attack.

I've managed to get my way with the council over bullshit charges by adopting the 'frankly, you can whistle for it' line, but my borough still allows people to escalate issues direct with managers who can make decisions. That said, I always phone the automated payment line for my council and pay them that way, not by cheque.

baked beings on toast (suzy), Monday, 24 March 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link

oh god that sucks. I don't trust them with a direct debit after they fucked up once, so I do it online every month, but am not too precious about making sure it is cleared by the 1st or whatever.

kinder, Monday, 24 March 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link

They have fucked up far, far, too many times to ever get a direct debit out of me. And you can't even pay online with Lambeth. There's supposedly a phone payment system, but I'm not paying them in any way I don't have a receipt and a proof of the date I paid them. Guess it means going down to Gracefield Gardens every month until benefits (30 day wait) come through. :(

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Monday, 24 March 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link

I preferred going to counters at the Town Hall with cash and a paying-in booklet, but they closed the counter in my borough late last year, and I only have enough wiggle room to have a few direct debits. Post offices should be able to process Council Tax payments if you've been issued a barcoded booklet. Phone payment systems do give you a reference number in lieu of receipt, which you can then quote in correspondence as proof.

baked beings on toast (suzy), Monday, 24 March 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link

"And lo, this is how I now become benefits scum. This country!"

Really? When did some Mail columnist hack your account. I mean have sympathy for your dealings with fuckwitted LA's, but you should be better than that.

xelab, Monday, 24 March 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link

You know that thing where Imago posted something that was ambiguous, about whether it was actually ableist, and he claimed that "come on man, it is so obvious I am taking the piss out of this attitude, rather than expressing it" and everyone jumped on me for even asking, saying "jesus christ, how tin-eared and unaware of imago's personality or politics or whatever would you have to be, to not understand that this is not the usage he intended?"

Maybe you could show me the same benefit of the doubt.

But... naaaah. This being ILX of course not.

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 08:56 (ten years ago) link

<3 at you BB

continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:02 (ten years ago) link

thinking about moaning about boredom to beguile the morning's boredom into boring words but god i've not even got the wherewithal to do that much i don't think altho it's interesting (to me) to see how long i can keep this sentence going just for the sheer boredom of it

nah, really, great post (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:09 (ten years ago) link

i recommend a short trip to the wdyll thread where you can see djp's baby twins.

estela, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:14 (ten years ago) link

Boredom, boredom, boredom... BOREDOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoYiQ8Qsozk

x-post to NV

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:15 (ten years ago) link

i've been lying awake for four hours at the early stages of a panic attack, neurons circling in the distance like sharks a mile out, typing post after post and "saving to draft"

continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link

estela i saw them last night on Facebook and yes so beautiful yes

nah, really, great post (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:24 (ten years ago) link

Goon Tie, the idea that you have bad days and panic attacks and awfulness... I know. It doesn't make any difference when your brain decides to send you on a crazy neurochemical trip. But it's like, you're so funny and so smart and so elegant and so talented and such a beautiful human being and you have the ability to make things so astonishingly lovely that they make the whole ugly world go away and instead become a sparkling place of joy and beauty for like 3 minutes and 20 seconds or whatever. The sense of unfairness is overwhelming, like, you should be sitting on a golden throne surrounded by cherubs feeding you stuffed grape leaves or delicious food and leaving no room for panic or badness.

But I guess the same cracks that let in the joy and beauty also let in the panic and badness.

I think you're going to get up and get through it and things will happen like they happen, to the best of your abilities, and mostly it will be fine (maybe some of it will be a mess, but you will survive the mess, too, and laugh about it when it's over). And this isn't any help when your brain decides to send you down the panic and freak out path, but I think you're a good guy and you deserve good things. <3 to you, dude.

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:26 (ten years ago) link

^^^

nah, really, great post (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:28 (ten years ago) link

A cook was butchering an ox for Duke Wen Hui.
The places his hand touched,
His shoulder leaned against,
His foot stepped on,
His knee pressed upon,
Came apart with a sound.

He moved the blade, making a noise
That never fell out of rhythm.
It harmonized with the Mulberry Woods Dance,
Like music from ancient times.

Duke Wen Hui exclaimed: "Ah! Excellent!
Your skill has advanced to this level?"

The cook puts down the knife and answered:
"What I follow is Tao,
Which is beyond all skills.

"When I started butchering,
What I saw was nothing but the whole ox.
After three years,
I no longer saw the whole ox.

"Nowadays, I meet it with my mind
Rather than see it with my eyes.
My sensory organs are inactive
While I direct the mind's movement.

"It goes according to natural laws,
Striking apart large gaps,
Moving toward large openings,
Following its natural structure.

"Even places where tendons attach to bones
Give no resistance,
Never mind the larger bones!

"A good cook goes through a knife in a year,
Because he cuts.
An average cook goes through a knife in a month,
Because he hacks.

"I have used this knife for nineteen years.
It has butchered thousands of oxen,
But the blade is still like it's newly sharpened.

"The joints have openings,
And the knife's blade has no thickness.
Apply this lack of thickness into the openings,
And the moving blade swishes through,
With room to spare!

"That's why after nineteen years,
The blade is still like it's newly sharpened.

"Nevertheless, every time I come across joints,
I see its tricky parts,
I pay attention and use caution,
My vision concentrates,
My movement slows down.

"I move the knife very slightly,
Whump! It has already separated.
The ox doesn't even know it's dead,
and falls to the ground like mud.

"I stand holding the knife,
And look all around it.
The work gives me much satisfaction.
I clean the knife and put it away."

Duke Wen Hui said: "Excellent!
I listen to your words,
And learn a principle of life."

nah, really, great post (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:47 (ten years ago) link

Thanks BB. I've always thought that it's the sign of a good creative mind to have one foot in sane, one foot in crazy, but sometimes it gets super hairy

The twins are super cute but DJP and Mrs. DJP's beaming faces are even cuter

continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:49 (ten years ago) link

I really mean that, BB, thanks, you totally brightened it

continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 09:54 (ten years ago) link

Maybe you could show me the same benefit of the doubt.

Sorry late night drinking sake response, so much genuine BS contempt about right now sometimes one can develop a distorted view of peoples comments. I suppose it doesn't help that I am in a very misanthropic condition right now. Good luck with yr council tax problem, don't let it become a bigger problem.

xelab, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 10:45 (ten years ago) link

Hey, no, I'm sorry that I used such ugly and offensive language. I don't get a free pass on that shit, either.

From my perspective, I'm coming from a place of such huge fear, and such self loathing that this does happen; ugliness that I think is directed firmly at myself ends up hitting other people, and that's not fair and that's cool.

I'm in a pretty shitty place myself at the moment (I try not to talk about my unemployment woes, what brought them on, illness and disability and all that shit, too much around here, because I don't find ILX and understanding place for these issues, for me, for whatever reason) so I certainly understand the whole thing where being in a shitty place and being surrounded by *real* specious bullshit makes a person unable to deal with "jokey-jokey" or sarcastic or even well-intentioned iterations of the bullshit. I don't know that I'd call that "misanthropy" but it is a real thing I understand very well.

It's much easier to take a grrr blah blah jokes bruv snarky tone, on ILX as in life, than it is to say, flat out "I am really fucking scared right now. Most days I am pretty much one beautiful guitar solo* away from thinking suicide is a preferable option to where I am at the moment. A council tax bill I can't pay is the latest lead straw on a flattened camel." I pick myself up, I go on.

*Today it's Listen Snow Is Falling by Galaxie 500.

once more unto the DUVOON (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 11:42 (ten years ago) link

"being surrounded by *real* specious bullshit makes a person unable to deal with "jokey-jokey" or sarcastic or even well-intentioned iterations of the bullshit"

You nailed it perfectly there BB and I wouldn't expect less from such an incisive poster as thee.

xelab, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 12:52 (ten years ago) link

paperwork so piled up i don't think it can be done, like the washing up piled up in my sink except i know that can be done, work till half past 8 tonight then back to my empty house, time for bed, get up bright and early so i can fail at stuff again, comfort starving didn't pan out so back to food even tho the taste doesn't innerest me at all...people round me take on an uncomfortable, faintly menacing tinge and beneath it all my brain up on bricks, burnt out and it's cold outside and i don't see so much human warmth right here now

nah, really, great post (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 09:36 (ten years ago) link

and somehow it feels just the tiniest bit okay, to feel aloof and blue and look at the grey world thru blue lenses, there's a crumb of comfort in retreating from all this booshit

nah, really, great post (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 09:38 (ten years ago) link

Blue is better than grey because at least blue is a feeling, and grey is the absence of all feeling. <3

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 09:39 (ten years ago) link

Emperor Bu of Ryo asked Great Master Bodhidharma,

"What is the highest meaning of the holy reality?"

Bodhidharma replied,

"Clear and void, no holiness."

The emperor said,

"Who are you in front of me?"

Bodhidharma said,

"I don't know."

nah, really, great post (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 09:48 (ten years ago) link

Make Him Fall In Love

havetherelationshipyouwant.com

9 Powerful Words You Can Say That Remind Him Why He Needs You.

i mean, this isn't this but one eyebrow raised way up

feel like the protagonist of a Huysmans novel but with higher anxiety

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 12:16 (ten years ago) link

Does "relationship advice for women" play upon the same anxieties as "management speak for the office" or a different set. I feel like there's a whole universe in there, but it basically boils down to "don't be you, be some idealised of notion of what society tells you 'he' wants."

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 12:34 (ten years ago) link

(But also, I now can't stop thinking about zen and cool and status and cultural capital and effort.)

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 12:34 (ten years ago) link

((And what tie I should wear tonight to see my friends and whether I should iron my shirt for tomorrow. Like, I think "going to see Interpol" is one of the few occasions in my life that probably would require ironing my fucking shirt, but really: fuck ironing a shirt. And now I am wondering who irons Interpol's shirts. Like, what a shitty job.))

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 12:36 (ten years ago) link

Make Him Fall In Love
9 Powerful Words You Can Say That Remind Him Why He Needs You.

catapulted into Snow Crash universe where I regain one final chance at finding love by learning to hack and write love-viruses for people's cybernet-jacked branez, and then realising, wait, that is basically what PUAs think they are already doing, right?

sigh

had my penultimate CBT session today, given a sheet to fill in with Helpful Things We Have Covered, was torn between the desire to look attentive and get pats on the head by filling in everything we ever covered and going yes, yes, Helpful Things, gold star for me in my final homework please, and the giant cloud of "actually all this stuff is vague as shit and is this all I have to help me out there in the Big Wide World?" which actually descended over me while thinking about it

feeling you on the pileups of stuff, obv

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 13:03 (ten years ago) link

further to love-h4xx0r daydream, at some point 10+ years ago I had been playing a lot of Nethack and also reading Snow Crash and totally had a whole imaginary cyberpunk roguelike in my head on the realisation that Neuromanceresque upgrades were basically the same as scrolls'n'potions

if I had written it then perhaps I could bask in reflected coolness of the recent roguelike revival

then again it would have been terrible and generic and not very convincingly synthesised and anyway there was already a Neuromancer text adventure in thee 80s where you could upgrade your brain, right? never played it but remember reading the walkthrough serialised in ZX Spectrum magazines every month

(things unique to my generation: the ability to say "I grew up reading magazine-serialised walkthrough solutions for text adventures I've never played")

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 13:14 (ten years ago) link

still spend the odd hour reading those now :/

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 13:15 (ten years ago) link

speaking of reading, i just had the horriblest epiphany whilst reading a book, something about feeling the lives of the other people in my life, and experience them within the web of their relationships and the isolation of their being in themselves, and this is maybe good, a little step outside the cell of solipsism, but it felt overwhelmingly sad (no doubt that was just the solipsism reasserting itself) and i am now pretty secretly weepy for the next while

i pictured myself inside my own family members' heads, i guess, in short

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 13:25 (ten years ago) link

Our little Egyptian cousins are the descendants of one of the most ancient races on earth, but they are very wide-awake to-day in more ways than one.

Little Egyptian boys and girls are as keen and bright as their cousins of any land, and though their religion is that of Mohammed, the same as of our little Arabian cousins, their principles are most upright and correct.

Of recent years many, many thousands of little American and English cousins have visited the banks of the Nile, and frequent intercourse with strangers has given our little Egyptian cousins a very broad and intelligent outlook on life.

They have learned scraps of English, and indeed French and German too, almost unconsciously, and if the donkey boys of Cairo and the other great tourist resorts are keen little fellows in their efforts to get coins from strangers, they are equally desirous of pleasing and give good value for their money.

The Egyptians of to-day are a cleanly, progressive people, and if they prefer donkey or camel back in preference to automobiles and railways as a means of travel it is because their country is not as yet developed to its full possibilities.

Some day things will be different, for the railway on land, steamboats on the Nile, and electric cars running from Cairo to the Great Pyramids are bound to somewhat change things.

It is safe to say, however, that for long years to come little American cousins visiting Egypt will look upon riding donkeys and camels and sailing upon the queer dahabeahs on the Nile as one of the pleasantest recollections of this old historic land. If, too, they can make such warm friends of their little Egyptian cousins as did George and his uncle Ben the people of modern Egypt will remain ever in their hearts as the kindest, most likable of folk.

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 13:46 (ten years ago) link

Maybe I am unable to even relate to other solipsists at this point.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 13:47 (ten years ago) link

My life just got a whole, WHOLE lot weirder at this point.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 27 March 2014 08:27 (ten years ago) link

i'm guessing weird's not wholly bad

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 March 2014 08:34 (ten years ago) link

Weird as in my presence being requested & required at a certain band I'm seeing tonight's aftershow weird. Most fans, well, they stalk bands. Me, I am stalked *by* bands. (Not really, there's a family connection which accounts for this. But still.)

I'm just having this weird disparity where I'm too shy to even talk to people in shops, and have to psych myself up for 20 minutes to ring the Council, but here I'm just going to go to some party and chill with international rock stars and... I don't like leaving the *house*. How is this my life?

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 27 March 2014 08:47 (ten years ago) link

Like, obviously I'm stupidly excited. But also, at the same time, this is deeply deeply weird.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 27 March 2014 08:49 (ten years ago) link

i find it way easier to talk to people with whom i have something to talk about than random business-of-life interactions tho

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 March 2014 08:51 (ten years ago) link

Ugh I just wrote out a post in response but it looks name-droppy and dumb so argh.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 27 March 2014 08:59 (ten years ago) link

I'm trying to find someone to go with, but it's like... I feel like such a shit person in general, that I can't even persuade a friend to go "hey I have a plus one to a rock concert and you can go for FREE but the catch is, you have to hang around all night with depressing, selfish, solipsistic me" and no one would want to do that.

Also, rock stars are NOT REAL and I want them to remain unassailable, perfect, Olympian figures, not people you have to interact with. Because people are *terrifying*.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 27 March 2014 09:02 (ten years ago) link

just dont mention fingerbanging

online hardman, Thursday, 27 March 2014 09:11 (ten years ago) link

You have just guaranteed that fingerbanging is the first thing I will talk about!

Oh phew, one of the Orcadians will go with me. She's pretty no-nonsense so she'll keep me in line.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 27 March 2014 09:20 (ten years ago) link

i dunno, is it a good idea taking Middle Earth characters out in public?

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 March 2014 10:41 (ten years ago) link

Don't be silly. There's nothing Middle about Orkney. It's pretty much as far "up" as you can go until you hit Norway.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 27 March 2014 12:02 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, I'm just going to spend the day wandering in, going "BLEEEEEEEEE" and then wandering out again.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 27 March 2014 13:32 (ten years ago) link

I was right about needing the Red Saturday thread. Just walked out of my job. Got my payslip today from last month where I took a week off sick, they docked my wages, should've read the small print in my contract I guess. But I found out they haven't docked other people when they've been off sick. And while asking about that, got pulled into director's office and bollocked for talking about it in the office instead of going to them. That was the final straw tbh. Packed my bag and left. Didn't make a scene, just went. Not sure what happens now, I suppose I'm breaching my contract by leaving before my notice is up but fuck it.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:03 (ten years ago) link

BB, I support whatever you need to do to tackle this appearance with equanimity or w/e but I'm just going to freak out for you over here.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link

got pulled into director's office and bollocked for talking about it in the office instead of going to them

yeah nobody shd have to put up with this kind of Stalinist bollocks

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link

yeah ridic. I doubt they'll bother to try for breach of contract, they would have to demonstrate actual economic loss by you leaving, which is likely more trouble than it's worth (n.b. I'm not a lawyer!)

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link

The really awesome part is my wife works there too, and they're going to let her go as well, so I've proper fucked this one up.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link

ouch, sorry man

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link

That's...what?? Was that already in the works, or is it a reaction to your situation? Because not that she would probably want to work there at that point anyway, but I'm almost 100% sure that's not legal.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link

They hadn't told either of us before, but they were going to do it anyway when I finished my notice period in 3 weeks. And it's completely legal cos thanks to the fucking Tories you have to work somewhere for 2 years before you have any rights.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

CUNTS.

I don't believe that was in the works, because that manager sounds fundamentally dishonest. Make life as unpleasant for them as possible. Starting with getting back the docked-but-shouldn't-have-been days you were off sick.

baked beings on toast (suzy), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link

I can't, it's in my contract they don't pay sick pay.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 27 March 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link

Can someone pls take over my financial management/paperwork? I'll do all the emotional labor, I'll be the cheerful, friendly, cute one, I'll take notes and write articles and stuff, but the idea of doing my taxes, finding out the state is going to take all my money anyway because my student loans are in default, the very THOUGHT of dealing with multiple lapsed retirement accounts that I'm going to have to empty out to live of off soon if I can't make money somehow... it's paralyzing.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link

My wife was just talking to someone else who recently left the company who alleged that another ex-colleague was made redundant partly because he was gay and the director who chewed me out earlier is a massive homophobe (obviously that wasn't the official reason). Just gossip of course but I can well believe it.

My situation is not as bad as first looked, my new job agreed to move my start date a week earlier and my line manager (who has been really good about all of this shit) has agreed I can do documentation from home for 2 weeks and never come back to the office again. But they're still going to let my wife go after that. I've half a mind to refuse to do the documentation because they are a bunch of cunts, but realistically we're going to need the money soon.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link

oh man cp, that all sounds horrendous

narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Thursday, 27 March 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link

Oh hey at least you have a new job lined up!! That was well done.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 27 March 2014 20:12 (ten years ago) link

Oh Jesus, CP, echoing The whole "that can't possibly be legal!!!" sentiments, but, basically: CUNTS

Anyway, I have survived; Interpol did not eat me, in fact a certain someone's certain brother was really incredibly lovely to me and took care of me and I've been hugged a bit too much, but, well: BLEEEEEEE!

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Friday, 28 March 2014 02:25 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkOj282VD-Q&feature=kp

there must be more to life

Andrew JFC (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 10:30 (ten years ago) link

There is more to life, but I really feel like I ought to go and make a "InterSecretPolMachines supergroup album five anticipation thread of squee" to go and squee all over because my squee is too squeesome for this thread.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Friday, 28 March 2014 10:53 (ten years ago) link

Thanks to everyone who said nice things. I haven't really been posting to ILX much for a long time so I wasn't even sure if people wouldn't just be going "who are you anyway", well maybe you were but that's fine.

I'm currently sucking it up and doing my working from home thing. At least I won't be out of pocket, but I'm really angry about the way they're treating my wife over it. I have checked the contract for my new job and I haven't accidentally agreed to work in a Victorian factory again and they do pay sick pay.

I'm hoping starting CBT next week will help with some of my many issues, but I know a lot of people don't think it's any good.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 28 March 2014 11:05 (ten years ago) link

We are currently enrolling the counselling blud badge holder into something approchaiong a paler buleuf hairnet cum snood of plasticity or something

Sopremtimes there is a beautiful elaouqenuce to the made up foppery of typing exercised prose but aolso at times there is nothing but the empty laxiness of a man who is quietly firtierring his life away in a w ay that wd disgust even hunself where the to talk iopenly about syuch.

hard at it here

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 12:05 (ten years ago) link

oh god i work with madmen, meanies and the occasional damaged niceness

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 12:06 (ten years ago) link

http://positiveattitudechangeseverything.com/

hey, that's my life sorted

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 12:17 (ten years ago) link

Soup, an inspirational business fable, shares a recipe for success filled with the essential ingredients to build a winning team and create a culture of greatness.

Only a few months into her new job, Nancy wondered whether or not she should have said yes to the CEO position at Soup, Inc. Sales were declining, bankruptcy rumors were swirling, and employee morale had never been lower. The company had lost both flavor and heat; and nobody likes lukewarm soup. How was Nancy going to turn it around? Sometimes the answer you need is right in front of you. On a lunch break, Nancy steps into Grandma’s Soup House, a little place she hadn’t noticed before, and happens upon an unexpected source of inspiration.

Soup tells the “stirring” story of how Nancy discovers the key ingredients to revitalize her company, her team, and herself. A recipe for success for anyone in any position, Soup delivers the powerful message that the quality of your career, business, and team is determined by the quality of your relationships. People are hungry for positive change and a fresh sense of purpose and passion. If you are ready to stir the pot and lead by example, Soup is a fun and engaging story that supplies you with the tools you need to build a winning team—at work, school, or home.

dying here

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 12:23 (ten years ago) link

Ugh Col. Poo that all sounds v. shitty and I'm glad you have something else lined up and can at least tell them where to shove it. Is not paying sick leave even legal in the UK?

positiveattitude website = http://harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=206 for the motivational guru website era

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 28 March 2014 13:52 (ten years ago) link

That is quite encouraging, Branwell Belle, well done.

StanM, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link

BLEEEEEEE there are pictures BLEEEEEEEEE but since there is no WDYLL Being Hugged Too Much By A DDB they will not see the light of day. BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link

Oh. Also. Thank fuck, I did not mention Fingerbanging. But we did end up discussing semiotics at length. What even is my life.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

"sometimes the finger is just a finger, you know?"

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link

"Well, the finger is only the Signifier, but the Signified is the weight of sexuality and desire and the symbolic desired phallus..." <- this is so *almost* how it went, but not quite. Thank fuck.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link

Branwell is yr dn a joke about the tuberculosis

every moser (wins), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

Thorstein Veblen, actually.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Friday, 28 March 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link

Oh I don't know who that is. Well you've prevented me from making a terrible consumption joke anyway

every moser (wins), Friday, 28 March 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link

What was the consumption joke.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Friday, 28 March 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link

(Thorstein Veblem invented the concept of "conspicuous consumption" in The Theory of the Leisure Class, which was a bit of a totemic tome I read at a particularly vulnerable stage in my intellectual development. I've been thinking lately about how there is a strand of conspicuous un-consumption in a certain strand of leftie anti-consumerism or whatever, but also, a pun-failure on a misreading of "conscious uncoupling" or whatever. Display names that have to be explained are a failure, but here I am explaining anyway.)

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Friday, 28 March 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link

http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/5

cc: hepatic misery thread. I will post in that thread tomorrow when I will be dying but for now just gonna say that video was a help

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 01:59 (ten years ago) link

BB I know the phrase conspicuous consumption obv but I never knew where it originated. There is stuff in the news about cats spreading tb & I had idly considered playing on that and then I saw your sn, just a coincidence really

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 02:04 (ten years ago) link

It's OK, when you don't know where a concept originated, just assume it's the Simpsons, and all of ILX will back you up.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 07:43 (ten years ago) link

wins OTM

StanM, Saturday, 29 March 2014 08:08 (ten years ago) link

It is a fuckin beautiful day in Cambridge. I'm wandering around aimlessly cause I'm sick and locked out of my house still (I haven't been home since Thursday morning). Pretty sure I smell like a chip shop too cause we've been frying crisps in the lab all week & I can't change clothes. My head is fuzzy. I need eggs.

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 08:34 (ten years ago) link

I am trying to work up the courage to send an email. I also need eggs first, though.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 08:40 (ten years ago) link

I had time to go home before the gig last night & see if there was anyone about but I was so sick from drinking on Thursday, I had managed to hold it together at work but then I had to go hide in the library, I got myself a booth in the bfi mediatheque, put the headphones on & tried to nap listening to stuff like that eafa film and a Welsh documentary about cerdd dant (is that what It's called, I can't remember. The singingcpoetry with the harp)

Xp eggs are the answer. I would like q dippy egg cause I've got the notion but I would feel weird ordering one out. I might anyway.

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 08:45 (ten years ago) link

I saw the stranglers last night, that was weird. I don't know them except for 2 songs. The crowd was really bald, and male; my friend said there was no queue whatsoever for the women's toilets, but when I went to the men's the queue was ridic. I got really confused because one of the band started talking in a geordie accent, having sung all the songs like a southerner. He also said he had just turned 50, but it was a 40th anniversary tour! Turns out he's a guy they drafted in to impersonate the original guy. They played about 300 songs.

I found some eggs, in a dumpling bar.

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 09:08 (ten years ago) link

hi wins, i enjoyed your review and i'm glad you found some eggs.

estela, Saturday, 29 March 2014 09:21 (ten years ago) link

Ha thanks. I'm in poundland. I had exactly one pound and I couldn't decide whether to buy a coffee table book about Sylvia plath's art or one about dictators' homes. In the end I went & got some cash out.

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 10:02 (ten years ago) link

I thought I saw a merzbow cd but it was actually merz whoever that is

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 10:03 (ten years ago) link

I need to work on my impulse control. Capricious consumption

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 10:05 (ten years ago) link

Big Issue seller asked me what the matter is. Nothing's really the matter but I told him about my health issues. He had alcohol poisoning at xmas. I dunno tho when you find yourself complaining to a homeless man about being locked out of your house for a couple of days

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 10:27 (ten years ago) link

wins are you in fact larping Ulysses?

(and if so can i play?)

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 11:11 (ten years ago) link

winsday? Sure

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 11:20 (ten years ago) link

It occurred to me that I'm exhausted, and it is too hot to be wearing a coat. Came to the library for another bfi nap but got sucked into actually watching stuff. I bought an edition of Harold nicolson's diaries that had been withdrawn from circulation; I can't be sure but I think I was the last person to check it out, in 2009.

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 11:24 (ten years ago) link

There is some big community event going on today to celebrate the re-opening of our library, which I should really go to, because I'm technically part of the Friends society (even though I got about as far as drawing them a logo before deciding the meetings were boring and giving up).

I have managed to email my rock star (hopefully without rambling too much) I was like "send me spacerock!" and he was like "send me recommendations of good books to read" so hopefully we can swap. It's fun feeling this giddy and starstruck and crushy.

Capricious consumption, this is the way forward, yes.

conspicuous unconsumption (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link

bleeee saturday :)

estela, Saturday, 29 March 2014 12:37 (ten years ago) link

New display name; thanks, Estela!

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 13:26 (ten years ago) link

:D

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 13:37 (ten years ago) link

adults shouldn't have "crushes"

why is win locked out

online hardman, Saturday, 29 March 2014 13:49 (ten years ago) link

Thank fuck I'm not an "adult", eh?

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 13:53 (ten years ago) link

soi-disant online hardman explains maturity, sweet sign me up

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

It's a day for gin. Or white port, with a decent tonic. Not gonna have any, I'm being stupid but it's not like I'm an idiot or anything. Drinking nice light ales. Once I get to bed I'll be right, & get back on the abstinence thing.

It's Barrett's Cambridge today, def. There is no other day.

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link

Haha this pub is playing dub side of the moon, that album is sick

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link

seem to be childless this weekend and that and the sunshine are calling me out to play but i really don't wanna have to pal up with Mr Wonga so i guess i'll just get a few things to eat and sit it out here playing games

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 15:06 (ten years ago) link

But that's the great thing about a sunny day isn't it, that you don't really need any of those extra things. Just be outside with a book or whatevs, bring your own food

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 15:16 (ten years ago) link

Yes! Today has been me going to the newly refurbished library and coming home with SEVEN BOOKS none of which I paid a penny for, then sitting in the park in the dappled sunshine, reading (Angel by Elizabeth Taylor at the moment) and all for FREE GLORIOUS GLORIOUS FREE. Screw you, Capitalism. Who needs ya.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

went to the shops - it's clement, but not warm. the light is wintry - strange, silvered and misty. i got some chores done today so i can feel almost content with 5 Live on the radio and the fish and chips i just bought.

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

It's basically summer here, not to gloat we're lucky with our weather

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link

BB I used to check out that many books but now there's no way I'd be able to read them all before they were due :-(

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

Thats the wonderful thing about unemployment; I can read 7 books a week if I feel like it!

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link

I wish I could do that. But with, you know, my salary. Is that too much to ask?

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link

apparently yeah. i've asked. and my salary's shit.

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link

Mine is good maybe I think, its above what I earned at t€$co and I don't think I lived a much meaner existence then

I like my job a lot but jobs are a bad deal

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link

I've had a really good day but I will be violently sick later, I'm on my 4.5th pint. I'm moving like a sloth too, this happened before a bit after I was diagnosed, a kind of physical depression I'm not used to

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

It is one of the great unfairnesses of this world that no one gets paid to read (or write) books all day long.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

word

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

I was gonna start a thread on reading while drunk: that point where there is 100% comprehension but barely any retention. What the fuck is that about

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

Like I could read 10 chapters now, and take it all in, and think about it, but I would have to read it again tomorrow.

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link

truth, the prose goes crystal clear for a little while but don't bother trying to remember what you've read tomorrow

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link

tbf i'm sure all my conversations are cogent and well-reasoned while i'm drunk too

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link

Ive gone through education that way i think

fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link

Xp, maybe, idk

fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link

The worst thing is when you read it the next day there is this irritable "yes ive already READ this" from yr brain even though you haven't remembered it you recognise it so it feels a waste of time

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link

ILX

fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link

wouldn't know I don't read it I just post

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link

What should I watch or listen to when I get home. I have spotify netflix and amazon <3film

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link

(sorry at some point I should have migrated to the Friday/Saturday chitchat threads but I feel blue so)

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

drunky maudlin rambles is pretty much our raison d, come on

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link

Oh if you have Netfix please can you see if How Art Made The World by Nigel Spivey is on there?

(granted this is no help if UK Netflix is different than US, but still.)

Also it's really good and maybe I'll watch it myself tonight.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link

Will do

UK netflix is kinda shit, I assume it's better elsewhere

Oh god I could get on a train and join my friends at Lawrence pantha du prince &c there is a spare ticket

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link

kinda refuse to believe mandy contributes to liver damage, its the other stuff

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:13 (ten years ago) link

I am HOME. I am in my room in my house. I will get a takeaway and then sleep forever.

every moser (wins), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

yesh he said yesh

seriously thinking about going out for a bit in my slobbing round the house outfit, dressing gown and all, thus killing the yearning for alcohol and human company without raising the bar of expectation

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link

k so i just found out Hannah is on a 13-mile walk in the dark with a little troupe of scouts for company and no direct adult supervision. am gonna sit in and fret instead.

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

Yes that will definitely make things better.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 29 March 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link

half-joking, i just never realised how extreme today's Scouts was

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link

I am sure we did mad things like that at scouts and came home fine and happy-exhausted except for bramble scratches.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Saturday, 29 March 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

i'm chill, she just seems v. little all of a sudden

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link

granted Han will be probably be the one giving orders and dragging other kids etc

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 March 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link

I mean, exactly. C'mon now.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 29 March 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link

I wish I could stop my overthinky brain from thinking myself out of feeling good with insecurities and self doubt.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:33 (ten years ago) link

Forgot the A-number-1 rule yesterday. Pop stars are not your friends. Music is your friend. Music is your boyfriend. Pop stars make music which fills up all the holes in your emotional life. But pop stars themselves, are just the Signifier and not the Signified.

Anyway. A shoot of what seems like good news...

Headhunter called me today about the first role where my ears pricked up and I said "Yes, that is what I do, and that is what I want to be doing!" and then when they told me the organisation I actually thought "YES. THAT IS THE KIND OF ORGANISATION I WANT TO WORK FOR." Please cross fingers and hold thumbs that it is what it is represented as being, and that the they are Good People and that I can get this job. Yes.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Monday, 31 March 2014 11:25 (ten years ago) link

digits crossed

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 March 2014 12:17 (ten years ago) link

Tick

every moser (wins), Monday, 31 March 2014 12:21 (ten years ago) link

And this is how I get seduced back into ~life~ and ~work~ all over again, when really I just feel kinda done with it.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Monday, 31 March 2014 12:27 (ten years ago) link

genuinely wishing you the best of luck m8

online hardman, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link

Good luck BB!

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 31 March 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link

don't fear the reaper cpa

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Monday, 31 March 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link

how come you get headhunters and I only get drunk people offering to be my "mentor"? good luck!

thomasintrouble, Monday, 31 March 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link

Thx guys.

Headhunters, ugh, I wish I could never have to deal with them. But it seems to be an unavoidable part of getting a job in this country. I've got good advice from various people about this job hunt which I'm trying to put into practice: 1) make tiny changes in your CV and re-upload it at least every week, because that makes you look more active & recent. 2) don't put your actual job title (which will often be meaningless bullshit anyway) but your desired job title in your CV when you upload it. What I didn't realise is that they make your whole CV searchable so stuff like that is important.

Oh well, we shall see how it goes.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link

That's just me; ILX's resident shiny metal box. Into which people peer, and attribute all sorts of motivations and descriptions, and yet only ever see themselves, reflected back grotesquely.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Monday, 31 March 2014 22:57 (ten years ago) link

wd like a pill to help me concentrate, a pill to help me care, a pill to fill my skull with cavity wall insulation

wd quite like a bunch of heavy tranqs i think

might go and see Under the Skin later, on my own, feels like it might be appropriately isolationist lulz

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:54 (ten years ago) link

Trying to get myself up and out of bed to go and see the Ruin Pr0n exhibit at Tate Britain and feeling quite sluggish TBH.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:55 (ten years ago) link

i feel quite stately and benign apart from unpleasant icebergs of work-related horror that keep bobbing in the way, but at least i shd finish early today and the sun is shining right now

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 09:58 (ten years ago) link

Originally man lived in isolation. Supported by nature, every individual sought to maintain his equilibrium between sinful temptations. That filled the whole of his life; there was no involvement with others, nor was there any worry about the future. As a result hard work did not exist, nor did sorrow, hatred, fear, or lust. But man was not content; he started to exert control over his fellow men and to search for certainty about the future. And so the balance was lost: labour forced onto the oppressed became ever more distressing and the conspiracy of those in power ever more wicked. We have now reached the point where everyone has power but at the same time suffers oppression; the old instinct of separation and isolation now only lives on as pale envy and jealousy.

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 11:38 (ten years ago) link

Where is that from? That sounds like some cranky 18th Century Philosopher who lives in a dank, crowded London house and just wants some peace so he can *write*; albeit made up shit about humans which is supported by no anthropologists or ethologists or anyone ever.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._E._J._Brouwer

L.E.J. Brouwer. He's interesting. but there's a bunch of not so interesting probly misogynist gender essentialism in there too. i can't help being a sucker for a good anti-productivity/anti-enlightenment origin myth

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 07:34 (ten years ago) link

a worldview that doesn't admit support from anthropologists or ethologists sounds right up my street atm

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 07:58 (ten years ago) link

You know, I have a fair amount of sympathy for the idea that all "people who study humans or animals in their environments" bring their own bag of assumptions to the study, that inherently taints any conclusions drawn thereof. But the problem is, the opposite approach (sit in a room and try to imagine ~what you think people came from~) opens the door to evo psych and stuff which is 100% drawn from one's own assumptions and completely tainted. Observing things wrongly still seems a better option than "don't observe things at all, and pull everything out of your own ass."

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 09:04 (ten years ago) link

idk some ppl's asses are more fertile than others'

forum enthusiast (wins), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 09:54 (ten years ago) link

And some people's observations are keener than others. Swings and roundabouts.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 09:56 (ten years ago) link

Oh definitely, I just wanted to say that

forum enthusiast (wins), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 09:59 (ten years ago) link

Oh god phoner interview in half an hour.

(Not for the job I really want, but for another job who saw my CV and were super keen because of all my experience. My experience in a field I'm desperate to leave, but ho hum.)

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 12:44 (ten years ago) link

Totally blew the interview. Test of (mostly developer) ends of SQL I have never used in 15 years of working daily with the thing. And doesn't ask a thing relevant to anything I ever used daily. There are tests that are "assess your knowledge and skillset" and then there are tests that are "catch you out with this obscure thing you'd only know through taking a course" and I guess the fact that it was the latter just kinda shows this isn't really someone I'd want to work for. :-/

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 13:45 (ten years ago) link

can't even tell if this is seasonal crappy weather or the lingering on of the ash-pall of impending doom

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 April 2014 11:14 (ten years ago) link

"catch you out with this obscure thing you'd only know through taking a course"

I had an interview like that once:

interviewer: "Diagnose this network problem."
snoball: "Well, it's most likely to be A, or possibly B, or C (...) or very very rarely it could be Y."
interviewer: "You're wrong. The answer was Z."

I'd listed every possibly cause under the sun apart from the totally obscure one he'd decided was the correct answer. And I didn't get the job. But I would have turned it down anyway, because forget working for someone that inflexible.

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Friday, 4 April 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link

reminds me of last bit of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-wfO6_eq-A

kinder, Friday, 4 April 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, I've been talking about my jobsearch woes on the Unemployed Watercooler thread, but yeah. That's the kind of thing in an interview that is a red flag of "nope, you really should not work for that person."

Branwell Bell, Saturday, 5 April 2014 09:11 (ten years ago) link

I shouldn't indulge it, but the blue part of my head wonders what happens if most employers wave red flags and if I as an employee have so many red flags and unattractive features of my own that I am in no place to pick and choose, and yet having one is almost essential to keeping a roof over my head. At least, it's been wondering nearly the same thing wrt relationships for a while.

I've been amused by the talk of Freecell on this blue thread for a while, and the recurring theme of Solitaire in Perec's "A Man Asleep" (must get round to watching all of "Un Homme Qui Dort" instead of little ten-minute chunks on Youtube, but may not be good for mental state). I have a bad relationship with Solitaire games. When a blue phase strikes me I fill all my free time playing them while ruminating on the past, the future, imaginary conversations, etc. Moving the cards around from chaos to (near) order repeatedly while simultaneously rearranging the contents of my head makes me feel like the contents of my head are also becoming more orderly, but of course it's not true; it only makes things worse.

Been doing that with Threes lately too. It's a very Solitaire-like game, both in that respect and that for all the author had his little rant about the sheeple playing 2048 bcz his game is strategically more fascinating I don't actually seem to be doing any better at it than the day I first played it. My highest ever score was on day 2 of playing; still get a goodish game followed by six completely shit games. I like to think that's because there's too much of a luck element for strategy to help, but maybe it's because I'm just very bad at working out strategy.

There was nothing in this post of any interest to anyone else. German conversation class soon. Hope it will be a distraction. Hope I'm not pushed too hard, as I've been crying all day for no real reason, and am scared of starting up again in public.

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 5 April 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link

There was nothing in this post of any interest to anyone else.

objection over-ruled

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 April 2014 14:27 (ten years ago) link

i wd be in a pleasantly wistful mood but i've either got a bad back or a bad kidney, no idea how to tell. it feels more to one side than right on my spine. either way i'm supposed to be going to watch kids do Kiss Me Kate tonight. seats better be comfy.

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 April 2014 14:29 (ten years ago) link

ouch, hope you feel better soon. Enjoy KMK but yeah, school production (if that's what it is) locations not noted for their comfortable seating arrangements I guess.

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 5 April 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link

Learning irregular German verbs will keep your mind plenty busy! Better than Solitaire, at least. (I have such a Solitaire addiction, I've had to uninstall it from any computer where I've ever worked. I can play that game for days when my head gets a bug for it.)

Branwell Bell, Saturday, 5 April 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

YES. I had to delete Freecell and then I had to delete sol.exe and then I had to delete Spider Solitaire and now I'm just playing sodding Threes, which doesn't even bring the satisfaction of "winning" occasionally. Why can't I at least make myself write a Threes-alike instead, which would be good practice? Nooo.

Sometimes I feel like I procrastinate because useful tasks don't keep my head mindlessly busy enough to keep thoughtworms out, but that doesn't make sense, since Freecell lets them all wriggle about all over the place. But there's still a feeling that if I turn on Thoughts Mode to do some actual useful thinking I'll get rumination instead.

(I feel uselessly ashamed over something that happened yesterday and I have a work task that makes me want to die when I think about how much of it is left to do so I've been avoiding it for weeks and I have some other stuff that would just make ILX go "told you so" because indeed you did and indeed I told myself so too and I still fell for it.)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 5 April 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link

Why can't I at least make myself write a Threes-alike instead, which would be good practice? Nooo.

Ha, this is totally me. Watching silly 80s computer graphics demo videos on youtube when i 'should' or 'could' be making my own shit with openframeworks.
I've gotten better at trying to lasso myself when i do happen to have a measurable amount of motivation. It's really easy for me to just slide back into procrastination but lately i've been working on just 'grabbing myself' and thinking "No! Let's do this! I feel slightly up for it at this specific moment, let's get going before the feeling is lost!". Like a random jumpstart.

brimstead, Saturday, 5 April 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

now I'm just playing sodding Threes

i like to mix it up with a little 2048 sometimes

mookieproof, Saturday, 5 April 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link

Stopped awhile this morning on my way back home
I had to realize this time that I'd be all alone

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 07:30 (ten years ago) link

Labour-run Dover town council said it was hoped the wave-shaped benches would deter "extended sitting".

The benches, which are made of seven curved strips of metal to blend in with the shape of the waves, do not have a back or armrest so that shoppers only sit on them for a few minutes.

The chair of the community and services department, Councillor Sue Jones, said: "If they were too comfortable, we would have the gentlemen and ladies of the day lounging on them. They discourage antisocial behaviour."

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:20 (ten years ago) link

maybe wire them up to produce a mild electric shock every 5 minutes

this fucking country is dead to me

just spent half an hour extended sitting in the Peace Garden, in the sun

it was good, and i'm ok, and life is a thing. but

this fucking country is dead to me

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 10:03 (ten years ago) link

they march right on in time
and straight into the pool
oh so quick and cool

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 10:18 (ten years ago) link

would recommend Mike Davies' City of Quartz for great analysis of that kind of hostile urban design Dover are apparently going for

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Friday, 11 April 2014 10:22 (ten years ago) link

duly googled, pdf entering my "avoiding work" folder as we speak

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 10:26 (ten years ago) link

Also, Joel Garreau's 'Edge City'.

baked beings on toast (suzy), Friday, 11 April 2014 10:44 (ten years ago) link

ooh nice, we have that in our library, picking it up!

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Friday, 11 April 2014 10:47 (ten years ago) link

Doesn't surprise me that it's Dover. Presumably targeted at the refugee population. It's increasingly common elsewhere, though.

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Friday, 11 April 2014 10:58 (ten years ago) link

They've been doing uncomfortable-on-purpose seating ever since I can remember: the McDonalds booth benches calibrated to make you fidgety after five minutes just from the angle of the seat, the park benches with weird spikes or armrests in so nobody can lay down on them, et cetera, forever...

baked beings on toast (suzy), Friday, 11 April 2014 11:36 (ten years ago) link

While getting lunch in the midst of interviewing for that awful job, I had the misfortune to try to find a place to sit and eat lunch in West Kensington. No benches. All the parks private and key only. Stoops with those awful iron work spikes. I ended up finding a church, thinking that I could sit in the graveyard - even that was cordoned off. There was literally one ledge of the church that had clearly been designed for a bench, but the council had whacked a great street sign in front of it so that you could not sit there. I ended up sitting and eating my lunch perched behind the street sign.

But then again "this country". Like you imagine it's better elsewhere.

Branwell Bell, Friday, 11 April 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link

our city council which undoubtedly has its faults has put in these very comfortable wooden sun loungers directly in front of the beach, you can stretch out on them in the sun and close your eyes and listen to the surf rolling onto the sand.

estela, Friday, 11 April 2014 11:58 (ten years ago) link

I have to say, free deck chairs on Brighton Pier = pretty damn civilised.

Branwell Bell, Friday, 11 April 2014 12:04 (ten years ago) link

It's one of the things that's most notably missing from Britain - an urban "outside" culture. Weather is a factor in making it practical but there's definitely a suspicion of being outdoors and not a)in park or b) paying to consume something. We tend not to congregate, promenade, hang about on front steps, etc - and then complain about not knowing our neighbours.

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Friday, 11 April 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link

I am lucky to live right by several very benchy parks (including one with a bench dedicated to a late ILXor). If you are a Londoner who actually wants to meet neighbours, the best way is to have a dog. On the walks, you'll meet many of the people who've committed to living in your area for the long-term (yes, it's a Kenny day here in Bloomsbury).

baked beings on toast (suzy), Friday, 11 April 2014 12:37 (ten years ago) link

BB that para is kinda shocking to me. i'm (inordinately) fond of this city and one thing i'm grateful for is the number of places to sit and ponder, inside and out. but yeah, as SV says, "always be consuming" seems so internalised everywhere

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:06 (ten years ago) link

god i can't moan without cultivating some kind of bourgie "i'm better than you sheeple" aspect and i hate that, it isn't true, people are just doing their things and it's my tired and bitter that taints the view

and today i don't feel bitter, just tired, and tired of the spiteful and the vengeful and the bad karma England's accrued thru its centuries of exporting blood and slavery and cash nexuses

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:09 (ten years ago) link

and a red admiral's been following me around all day which is cool really, i dunno why my glass is so empty except my usual boorish habits obv, i need a big ice bath to drop my brain in for a week i think

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:11 (ten years ago) link

this one?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ef/Kuznetsov1.jpg

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:13 (ten years ago) link

It was just a bit of a shock to me, because my part of London is very big on public parks and spaces and places to sit. Granted, a lot of that on the high street is "cafe culture" and you have to pay for a drink. But the commons are, well, *common* and you can't move for benches or places to rest. It just reminded me why I particularly hate West London.

Branwell Bell, Friday, 11 April 2014 13:26 (ten years ago) link

(I am trying to work up the courage to hit "send" on an email and failing miserably right now.)

((I fear that in being self effacing, I have hit an ugly note of "faux naif" or whatever, but I genuinely do feel, well, "I do these stupid sketches, maybe you want some, maybe you don't" and I think that's a more honest approach, when "my stuff ROX0Rs, you poxy F00Ls" seems to be the preferred approach for the rest of the fucking world, but really, fuck that attitude.))

Branwell Bell, Friday, 11 April 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link

Always Be Closing - even when you're the product

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:31 (ten years ago) link

meanwhile just in case anybody doesn't know here is the Secret Museum of Mankind:::

http://ian.macky.net/secretmuseum/index.php

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:33 (ten years ago) link

It's one of the things that's most notably missing from Britain - an urban "outside" culture.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:24 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha tell that to old leatherchest over the road from me with his sofa in the front garden.

thomasintrouble, Friday, 11 April 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link

I LOVE THIS CITY

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link

last time i was around kensington my friends and i got yelled away from the stoop we were sitting on by the homeowner, was good to feel teenage again.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 11 April 2014 13:41 (ten years ago) link

If you close all of the parks, and provide no street furniture, where on earth do you expect people to sit?

Oh! Don't want people sitting anywhere near you? Maybe you shouldn't live in London.

Ugh.

Branwell Bell, Friday, 11 April 2014 13:43 (ten years ago) link

I hit send, and now I have to avoid my email until the end of time.

Oh well. I bought ice cream. I'll eat that in the sunshine.

Branwell Bell, Friday, 11 April 2014 13:49 (ten years ago) link

happy belated birthday bb

estela, Friday, 11 April 2014 14:09 (ten years ago) link

also hb to wins

estela, Friday, 11 April 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link

did i miss birthdays? feel like i've been a long way up myself for the last fortnight. hb to u boths

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 April 2014 14:14 (ten years ago) link

Thank you, Estella! Also TY NV.

Is today Wins' birthday? HB, wins.

Branwell Bell, Friday, 11 April 2014 14:15 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This was my moms fav song. RIP mom, we will always love you.

ogmor, Saturday, 26 April 2014 07:20 (ten years ago) link

<3 Ogmor

Branwell Bell, Saturday, 26 April 2014 07:21 (ten years ago) link

ty branwell

ogmor, Saturday, 26 April 2014 08:58 (ten years ago) link

no kids. again. feel like going for a loooong drink. gonna try hard not to. learning slowly, it's only less lonely for a few gone moments, and chicks don't dig zombie-shambling bozos. inside solitude is, at least, affordable.

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 April 2014 09:47 (ten years ago) link

[countdown to pulling boots on and rushing out the door T-minus 30 minutes]

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 April 2014 09:49 (ten years ago) link

nahhhh

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 11:05 (ten years ago) link

the part of me that usually trolls about booze is mostly trolling about burgers recently, I would f'in love a burger. I know just where to go to get a good one.

I missed the birthday wishes upthread btw, thanks guys

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 11:10 (ten years ago) link

i missed the bday iirc hb wins

i've slept about ten hours since last sunday, neighbours and criminals are tag-teaming me ito sleep deprivation trolling. can't imagine doing any of the college stuff that needs done for tomorrow deadline or study for exams next week. the room is spinnin here.

james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 April 2014 11:20 (ten years ago) link

sleep deprivation is the absolute worst if you need to do anything with yr brain

i'm cooking chicken and rice and listening to the football, the food shd keep me on the straight and narrow for a while anyway

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 April 2014 11:51 (ten years ago) link

oh ya football, college'll wait

james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 April 2014 12:05 (ten years ago) link

sleep deprivation is the absolute worst if you need to do anything with yr brain

for at least four and a half years after i graduated college, i was fucking with my sleep. two and a half weeks ago or so i fixed it, meaning i'm usually getting close to eight hours a night now. that, coupled with some changes in diet and other things, has worked miracles. if you don't actually have insomnia and can find a way to get regular sleep, every night, around the same time, do it. seriously. do it now.

markers, Saturday, 26 April 2014 13:28 (ten years ago) link

En route back from town with noise cancelling buds, bro has dropboxed me some binaural beats, heres nothin

james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 April 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link

I used to have horrid noisy neighbour problems. Got a ten minute file of white noise, stick it on massive speakers either side of my bed for eight hours a night. I don't hear anything any more; I just sleep through pretty much everything: football games, karaoke night at the pub, the Boring Machine digging up the road. The only thing it doesn't cancel out is the noise in my head.

Branwell Bell, Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link

it's impressive how much panic and fear of death the prospect of returning to work arouses

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 April 2014 09:37 (ten years ago) link

Do connoisseurs of melancholic states see a distinction between Blue Saturday and Sunday Sad?

Blue Saturday: still feeling jangled and battered with the indignities of the working week, generally disagreeable if not misanthropic, awareness of the opportunities for enjoyment but too knackered to enjoy them fully which in is elf is depressing.

Sunday Sad: more rested, but doom-like sense of working week looming, sense of desperation in people to wring out the last moments of pleasure from sunday meal afternoon drinking, evening has slight religious overtones of that classic Betjeman "St. Giles's bells are ringing round,slanting summer rain....rainy leaves..dull with death and hell at last"

mohel hell (Bob Six), Sunday, 27 April 2014 10:45 (ten years ago) link

when i titled this thread it was a specificity, a blue saturday. but that was a repetitive experience, even if i hadn't recognized it then. i hadn't really started to think about blueness properly then either, it's only in the last few months i've started to really think about the implications of living blue, or blue as a multivalent lens for existence.

i'm not even sure all blue sundays are the same, tho they feel most consistent in spirit and sharing. there are a lot of distinctions, a lot of shades. i'd even maybe separate the blue from the sick anxiety i'm burning with today: blue is cooler, and more accepting, and more a way of understanding things than the screaming fear that sometimes comes along with it

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 April 2014 11:09 (ten years ago) link

For me it's like this:
Blue Saturday = I want to do stuff but I'm too knackered after a week of a temp gig working for yet another passive aggressive 'politics' riddled corporation.
Blue Sunday = I want to do stuff but bleurgh I don't feel up to it.
Sunday Night Sad = I want to do stuff but there's just no time left this weekend because I have to go to bed early so that I can get up at stupid o'clock to catch a bus and aaaaaaaaaaargghhhh

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Sunday, 27 April 2014 11:19 (ten years ago) link

BLUE pencils, blue noses, blue movies, laws, blue legs and stockings, the language of birds, bees, and flowers as sung by longshoremen, that lead-like look the skin has when affected by cold, contusion, sickness, fear; the rotten rum or gin they call blue ruin and the blue devils of its delirium; Russian cats and oysters, a withheld or imprisoned breath, the blue they say that diamonds have, deep holes in the ocean and the blazers which English athletes earn that gentlemen may wear; afflictions of the spirit—dumps, mopes, Mondays—all that's dismal—low-down gloomy music. Nova Scotians, cyanosis, hair rinse, bluing, bleach; the rare blue dahlia like that blue moon shrewd things happen only once in, or the call for trumps in whist (but who remembers whist or what the death of unplayed games is like?), and correspondingly the flag, Blue Peter, which is our signal for getting under way; a swift pitch, Confederate money, the shaded slopes of clouds and mountains, and so the constantly increasing absentness of Heaven (ins Blaue hinein, the Germans say), consequently the color of everything that's empty: blue bottles, bank accounts, and compliments, for instance, or, when the sky's turned turtle, the blue-green bleat of ocean (both the same), and, when in Hell, its neatly landscaped rows of concrete huts and gas-blue flames; social registers, examination booklets, blue bloods, balls, and bonnets, beards, coats, collars, chips, and cheese . . . the pedantic, indecent and censorious . . . watered twilight, sour sea: through a scrambling of accidents, blue has become their color, just as it's stood for fidelity. Blue laws took their hue from the paper they were printed on. Blue noses were named for a potato. E. Haldeman-Julius' little library, where I first read Ellen Key's Evolution of Love, vainly hoping for a cock stand, had such covers. In the same series, which sold for a dime in those days, were the love letters of that Portuguese nun, Mariana Alcoforado, an overwrought and burdensome lady, certainly, whose existence I callously forgot until I read of her again in Rilke.

avinit garde (wins), Sunday, 27 April 2014 11:56 (ten years ago) link

that lead-like look the skin has when affected by cold

That good... In my own synaesthetic emotional tones, if blue is the colour of melancholy - then it's that very blue-grey of leaden skies with all of the bright colour washed out - implying the heaviness of lead weighing you down.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Sunday, 27 April 2014 12:08 (ten years ago) link

conversations with my dad:

football, football, some kind of prejudiced political/bigotry stuff, me complaining about that, him telling me if he didn't argue about his prejudices i wouldn't have anything to say, me acknowledging that that's kinda true but not knowing what to do about it, him getting a bit hurt and huffy cos i don't love his prejudices which are integral part of who he is, me feeling like shit, fin.

wash, rinse, repeat x2 every week of my adult life

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 April 2014 13:34 (ten years ago) link

i am, i will happily admit, a self-centred failure of a son, husband, parent

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 April 2014 13:35 (ten years ago) link

ach, daddy issues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or1oZ35NA2U

strangley at peace this a.m.

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 April 2014 07:50 (ten years ago) link

i mean, considering i've got bad things to do to people v. soon

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 April 2014 07:58 (ten years ago) link

oh I've got houses and I've got lands
and half Northumberland belongs to me
and I'd grant it all to the fair young lady
as would release me and let me free

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 07:38 (ten years ago) link

^otm.

had a substantial and sudden access of loneliness yesterday evening. this is not a "poor me" thing - it's more how curious the physical sensation is. it reminds me slightly of the bitter things we learn to consume as adults - booze, caffeine, tobacco. the taste of internal harm, self-annihilation and death to the point of connoisseurship.

Fizzles, Friday, 2 May 2014 10:04 (ten years ago) link

that was a little more Fotheringham-Rhomas than intended. just mean there's something not wholly unpleasant in the sensation.

Fizzles, Friday, 2 May 2014 10:09 (ten years ago) link

I like it

james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Friday, 2 May 2014 10:55 (ten years ago) link

the bitter things we learn to consume as adults

otm - it has its pleasures

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 10:59 (ten years ago) link

He was alone. He was unheeded, happy and near to the wild heart of life. He was alone and young and wilful and wildhearted, alone amid a waste of wild air and brackish waters and the sea-harvest of shells and tangle and veiled grey sunlight and gayclad lightclad figures of children and girls and voices childish and girlish in the air.

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 11:21 (ten years ago) link

megamix of every use of the word "alone" from Portrait basically nails it

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 11:26 (ten years ago) link

the bitter things we consume as adults telling ourselves they bring sophistication, coolness, a brief escape from obligations to other people

(just got back from dentist, musing wankily while looking for distractions from rubbery face and the suspicion that my teeth don't meet properly now and that "bits of your temporary cap will come off over the next fortnight but don't worry" might not have meant "btw it's totally fine if a 3mm-wide chunk comes out on your walk home in 5 minutes")

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 2 May 2014 12:26 (ten years ago) link

Bitter things we learn to consume as adults - coffee, tobacco, alcohol - we usually learn to consume because all of these things bring pleasurable altered or heightened states of consciousness, often analogous to the pleasurable states of childhood - excitement, comfort, disinhibition - and we come to associate the bitterness of the taste with the pleasure of the altered state.

Bramble Bluebell (Branwell Bell), Friday, 2 May 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link

well, I was filing "pleasurable altered states" under "escape from obligations" for neatness, but yes, getting caught up in a romantic view of one's own loneliness as misunderstood protagonist striking out on own is a nice recap of childhood solipsism too

if I sound glib, I spend a lot of time being lonely or lonerish and inventing narratives about it, good and bad, helpful and unhelpful

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:04 (ten years ago) link

think that's a given for our regulars here :/

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:47 (ten years ago) link

oh yes.

Fizzles, Friday, 2 May 2014 17:20 (ten years ago) link

Really want to get v v drunk tonight but have to remind myself I have a new, uninvestigated patch of Great North Woods to investigate tomorrow & cannot be ruined.

Also wish there were a way to say "I don't feel like going out but I'd like to hang out in my pyjamas and I can draw & you can read or whatever" without it sounding like a sexual come-on or invitation to misunderstanding & badness.

Bramble Bluebell (Branwell Bell), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:27 (ten years ago) link

i think there is a way to say that but other party has to be very on yr wavelength

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link

I have a few friends I could say that to but not a ton--but they are the best ones.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link

i had hoped my current semi-ex and i would have spent a lot of time simply sitting together and reading, but anytime i ever suggested it i was vetoed

clouds, Friday, 2 May 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link

sorry for brag but i've just had the best person for hanging out in pyjamas snarking at TV arrive, and me and her are gonna go and buy naughty food for the night now

:D

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:35 (ten years ago) link

Is it my favorite monster???

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah!!!!

haven't seen her since Easter. we have kebabs and burgers now. have the best weekends you can possibly have everybody x x x

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link

Snarking is good for sharpening one's wits/teeth.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link

i watched mst3k religiously when i was 11-12 and it led me forever down the path of tv/movie snarking

clouds, Friday, 2 May 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

enjoy your pyjama-ed takeaway-eating TV snarking and subsequent weekend, NV and monster <3 <3

(and best-possible weekend wishes for everyone else reading this, of course)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link

ilx needs more monster stories, btw.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link

she hasn't shut up since she got here so i'm sure i'll come up with something

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link

lol a fairytale ending

I got drunk

wins, Friday, 2 May 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link

sorry for brag but i've just had the best person for hanging out in pyjamas snarking at TV arrive, and me and her are gonna go and buy naughty food for the night now

:D

― nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:35 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Friday, 2 May 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

what nakh said much more succinctly.

markers, Friday, 2 May 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link

make sure to get the good stuff, whatever that might be for you and yours.

markers, Friday, 2 May 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link

portrait

sorry for brag but i've just had the best person for hanging out in pyjamas snarking at TV arrive, and me and her are gonna go and buy naughty food for the night now

:D

― nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:35 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:)

Fizzles, Saturday, 3 May 2014 13:07 (ten years ago) link

"a brand is the collection of functional and emotional benefits delivered to an end consumer"

??

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:16 (ten years ago) link

bustin' makes me feel good i guess

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:16 (ten years ago) link

Self-expressive benefits provide an opportunity for someone to communicate his or her self-image.

They heighten the connection between the brand and the customer by focusing on something linked to his or her personality. Self-expressive benefits focus on the act of using the product, as opposed to the emotional benefits associated with the result of using the product.

A self-expressive benefit can include the elegance and the feeling of being cool projected by the Apple iPhone, the raw masculinity projected by the Harley-Davidson motorcycle brand or the luxury displayed by carrying a Louis Vuitton bag.

so unselfconscious, so pretty. little people inside waiting to express themselves thru the medium of buying stuff.

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:18 (ten years ago) link

here is me, sitting inside this lumpy dowdy body that bumbles thru the world.

me is self-contained, knows things about itself and the separate everything that surrounds it, strives to display itself within the separateness.

it just wants the not-me to recognize its unique, articulable me-ness.

look everybody: this is me!

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:21 (ten years ago) link

Emotional benefits provide customers with a positive feeling when they purchase or use a particular brand. They add richness and depth to the experience of owning and using the brand.

Examples of emotional benefits include the “feel-good” factor when purchasing groceries carrying a fair-trade label or when donating to charities such as the Heart & Stroke Foundation. Buying local or organic foods has also started to carry emotional benefits, although most brands in these areas are niche brands that are currently not well known to others than enthusiasts.

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:22 (ten years ago) link

had a discussion the other day about whether if you're smart and work hard enough you can achieve whatever you want in our society. god, what if that's true?

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:47 (ten years ago) link

uncomfortable possibility that we all get the quality of life we deserve

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:48 (ten years ago) link

if you're not striving, you're not living

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:50 (ten years ago) link

God put marks of displeasure on Adam. 1. His habitation is cursed. God gave the earth to the children of men, to be a comfortable dwelling; but it is now cursed for man's sin. Yet Adam is not himself cursed, as the serpent was, but only the ground for his sake. 2. His employments and enjoyments are imbittered to him. Labour is our duty, which we must faithfully perform; it is part of man's sentence, which idleness daringly defies. Uneasiness and weariness with labour are our just punishment, which we must patiently submit to, since they are less than our iniquity deserves. Man's food shall become unpleasant to him. Yet man is not sentenced to eat dust as the serpent, only to eat the herb of the field. 3. His life also is but short; considering how full of trouble his days are, it is in favour to him that they are few. Yet death being dreadful to nature, even when life is unpleasant, that concludes the punishment. Sin brought death into the world: if Adam had not sinned, he had not died.

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:54 (ten years ago) link

This information is for those who inherit the New Age.

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 08:48 (ten years ago) link

sometimes my brain deserts out and i have no idea what to read or what to think about or what to do

nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 09:12 (ten years ago) link

There are also letters of his to Cicero, as well as to his intimates on private affairs, and in the latter, if he had anything confidential to say, he wrote it in cipher, that is, by so changing the order of the letters of the alphabet, that not a word could be made out. If anyone wishes to decipher these, and get at their meaning, he must substitute the fourth letter of the alphabet, namely D, for A, and so with the others.

worst. cryptography. ever.

Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 May 2014 14:55 (ten years ago) link

sorry for brag but i've just had the best person for hanging out in pyjamas snarking at TV arrive, and me and her are gonna go and buy naughty food for the night now

:D

― nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Friday, May 2, 2014 1:35 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is it my favorite monster???

― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, May 2, 2014 1:37 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah!!!!

haven't seen her since Easter. we have kebabs and burgers now. have the best weekends you can possibly have everybody x x x

― nostalgie de couilles (Noodle Vague), Friday, May 2, 2014 2:10 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Only saw this now but oh how adorable that whole exchange was. :)

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Friday, 9 May 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link

Hannah: There's a meeting for parents at school to talk about sex
Me: It's probably asking permission to do sex education with you, cos it's a Catholic school.
Han: No it's definitely about sex
Me: I think you must be wrong because by definition it's too late to tell us parents about it
Han: (giggling I'm laughing because I get it

Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 May 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link

at middle school once we were asked to compose a code and so I took my cue from The Lord of the Rings (on which I was v keen) and chose a rhyme of some sort to stand as a key. only those who knew the rhyme could decode.

I won (it was possibile ti work out everyone else's) and then had to explain to everyone what the solution was. i explained and people, including the teacher, were v angry indeed. she said "I don't know how anyone was supposed to get that" and (this was when we were just starting to swear) someone called me (correctly really) "a bloody wanker".

I remember being v high & mighty about it. it's a fucking code! I still feel this from time to time.

Fizzles, Friday, 9 May 2014 15:02 (ten years ago) link

xpost and :)

Fizzles, Friday, 9 May 2014 15:03 (ten years ago) link

hahahaha awwww Hannah

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Friday, 9 May 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link

also this week she told me her life had no meaning if she couldn't do musical theatre :/

Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 May 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link

(xps)
That reminds me of the Polish proverb "Don't teach your father how to make children".

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Friday, 9 May 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

Consider, is there not in the best of you a body of death?

Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 May 2014 08:02 (ten years ago) link

The ad targets the Easter DIY-crowd and features frumpy-looking people bursting out of their clothes and into dynamic work gear, as a voiceover challenges people to "unleash the B&Q in you". The soundtrack to the ad is Snap's 'I've Got The Power'.

The work was created by Jane Briers and Dave Cornmell. It was directed by Olly Williams through HSI and MEC handled the media planning and buying.

Ross Neil, a creative director at WCRS, said: "Nobody wants to been seen as someone with a moping, can't do attitude. Everyone wants to be seen as a can do person, someone with a little B&Q in them. Someone who can get on and do the job.

"With the help of Olly [the director] we've managed to bring this to life in an extraordinary way.

Nobody wants to been seen as someone with a moping, can't do attitude.

can i just

Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 May 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link

stfu the ross neil brigade.

estela, Monday, 12 May 2014 11:50 (ten years ago) link

My moping, can't-do attitude would've saved this country billions fyi

james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 12:25 (ten years ago) link

idiot baby-bottle voice at the base of my skull: "you know what would make this big comfortable bed of weepy sadness complete? a nice long pub crawl"

quiet, you

Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 06:26 (ten years ago) link

another 12 hour shift ahoy. still sober

Joel was telling Han about the Yellowstone supervolcano on Saturday, and she started crying because she got the fear when he said everybody was gonna die, and i had to hug her thru it and i recognised the fear right there, and it came back to me last night and i lost my shit, but i hope it was a passing cloud for her, kids getting older and getting further away, me left to crazy catless lonerdome, decayed old weirdo

12 hours with my game face on, consummate pro

Tributes as popular Lichfield cat dies (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 06:34 (ten years ago) link

Will H. Hays is burning in hell

Tributes as popular Lichfield cat dies (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 09:34 (ten years ago) link

sometimes a fragment of childhood snags in your memory and crystallizes a whole sense of the past around it, the strangest of spaces. why is it so profoundly sad, this usually mundane bit of suburban summertime that grips my chest as it fills my head, pain of something lost. lost from inside me or lost from the world? or both?

and if it's all within what could possibly be the use of the wiring that regrets the loss of time passed?

Tributes as popular Lichfield cat dies (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 May 2014 07:45 (ten years ago) link

man

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 16 May 2014 07:51 (ten years ago) link

it's fascinating, as you get older, those layers of nostalgia playing over each other. loss of childhood, then the slow erosion of yr children's childhood...it's one of those bitternesses that becomes an adult taste, like (wins?) described elsewhere. they play off each other - the space before i was born, the space i grew up in, the space i could still have future plans in. and the ready availability of old stuff on the web plays its part too, smooshing everything up, expanding nostalgia on a global scale

Tributes as popular Lichfield cat dies (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 May 2014 08:04 (ten years ago) link

going without food as long as poss today so i can try and work out what the experience of hunger is like - been lazy lately and kind of sick of crap lazy food, kinda alienated from the experience of food

i dunno, just stuff...okay my stomach is growling but it's hard to pin down where the sensation of hunger sits: your head or your guts? certainly there's a bit of me that wants to go grab food but i can't think of anything easily accessible that wd feel pleasurable to eat and i feel like this brain hunger isn't imperative, yet...i feel like i'll end up eating out of some unconscious relaxation of the will rather than cos my body drives me to it. soon as i get out of work i'll get food of some sort but i can't place it as desire just yet

realize this is an experience only open to people with easy access to easy calories. such vague.

the only loving boy in UKIP (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 May 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link

bit of sunshine def reduces the need to engage with physicality. think Camus said some stuff about the disconnected dreaminess of North African climate. some stuff other than the disconnected dreaminess of shooting a stranger, obv.

the only loving boy in UKIP (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 May 2014 11:51 (ten years ago) link

lol stuffing hungry face right now

the only loving boy in UKIP (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link

so much everything, but so little

coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 07:49 (ten years ago) link

could construct a list of all the things i can't be bothered to do but i can't be bothered.

tired of the sound of my own thoughts again maybe, or grinding my teeth on judging other people's judging

a thin quivering line between enlightenment and oblivion

coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 07:57 (ten years ago) link

it is like a piece
of hair flying in the vastness of space

coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 08:04 (ten years ago) link

.. then the slow erosion of yr children's childhood...
― Tributes as popular Lichfield cat dies (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 May 2014 09:04 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalin

Feeling this. Our kids are similar age, I think. So many hopes for their future tempered by the realisation that that is their future and from here on in I play an ever-diminishing role.

thomasintrouble, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 08:30 (ten years ago) link

i got a horrible fear last night, classic 1 in the morning horrors, i wanted all the time back, i knew it was all gone, i knew in some way those children are gone

of course their replacements are great but

i don't know whether the pictures haunt me more than console me, they feel so distant at that time of night

i miss them so much and i wonder if i don't feel that even when i have them close

crying in the office nagl

coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 08:44 (ten years ago) link

there's a guy who sits opposite from me who seems to be suffering from catastrophic depression. my manager has been trying to get him retired for months. jokes are made behind his back. he's my dark other. every day i feel like i want to say something to him but i got nothing and his dislocation is granite and inviolable

coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 08:50 (ten years ago) link

Had a bad time at the weekend, thought I'd lost my work keys, went mental for a bit, then went into work and found them still in my locker where I'd left them a few days ago. Was relieved but just felt like a ridiculous human being who should be able to function properly but apparently not. At least no one will ever know..,

Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZNWnnkOduw

contemplating a Pepe Kalle thread

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

hi noodle :)

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

hi E :)

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link

there's a guy who sits opposite from me who seems to be suffering from catastrophic depression. my manager has been trying to get him retired for months. jokes are made behind his back. he's my dark other. every day i feel like i want to say something to him but i got nothing and his dislocation is granite and inviolable

im p sure we have a guy like this. all his staff have been taken away. he shambles, lost, dresses well but unkemptly, i'd imagine clothes bought for him by someone else that he doesn't know how to keep, hair growing longer and he unshaven, i've shared an admittedly large room with him for three months and have yet to see him speak to or another soul speak to him. i don't think my attempting it would be welcome. he looks permanently dully horrified, like he's seen destruction and it's hit his brain but not his face yet. but granite and inviolable, yeah.

dn/ac (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link

feel like when they joke about him around me there's a vibe of "but you're not like that any more!" and i don't totally welcome it

but that's probly my own solipsism and really some people just don't give a fuck

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link

nobody jokes about this guy.

is that solipsism

dn/ac (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link

they are separate btw

dn/ac (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link

"they"?

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link

those two lines

dn/ac (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link

it was not a gnomic utterance

dn/ac (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link

ach i get ya. probly not quite solipsism but close enough - forgetting there are all these other agendas in the world that aren't mine

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link

course there are still probly jobs were a person can sit around going steadily catatonic for many years

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link

and the pension after it, god bless us all

dn/ac (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 20:39 (ten years ago) link

i don't know about youse guys but i expect pensionable age to keep running on ahead of me until the floods come up tbh

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link

at the top of the road outside work this morning i saw a lorry that said AAH Pharmaceuticals.

felt it.

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 08:11 (nine years ago) link

sometimes there's nothing anywhere around you not even in the furthest distance

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 June 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link

feel that i'd have some pretty aesthetically solid bergman-esque ennui going on today if it wasn't being rendered absurd by a persistent 'livin' on a prayer' earworm.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

hooking up to my football-based morphine drip

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

o god

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 June 2014 08:46 (nine years ago) link

o?

luis bit stink chits (darraghmac), Friday, 27 June 2014 10:21 (nine years ago) link

good vibes to you NV

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 27 June 2014 10:26 (nine years ago) link

thanks )

tiny boat middle ocean no compass etc

with intermittent bursts of impotent grrrr

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 June 2014 10:29 (nine years ago) link

ah, yann martel

luis bit stink chits (darraghmac), Friday, 27 June 2014 10:51 (nine years ago) link

i saw a license plate today that said 12NV and i thought, we could gladly do with 11 more of him.

estela, Friday, 27 June 2014 10:53 (nine years ago) link

that is true

was going to change the lyrics of 12XU to be more Noodley, but, no Custos

(OK, often Custos, can't be bothered rn, also could only think of "saw you on a screen, funny and mean" which may not sound like the compliment I'd mean it as)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 27 June 2014 11:13 (nine years ago) link

quite happy to be funny and mean

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 June 2014 11:19 (nine years ago) link

11 more a passing spacecadets would also be good if we're putting in orders.

estela, Friday, 27 June 2014 11:57 (nine years ago) link

approved

advance refusal in anticipation of any other acquisition dockets for further duplication of recent posters ITT reason: likelihood of hardcase surplus, scone deficit.

luis bit stink chits (darraghmac), Friday, 27 June 2014 12:06 (nine years ago) link

I'm in report mode btw

luis bit stink chits (darraghmac), Friday, 27 June 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link

i just remembered i also saw or maybe it was a dream a license plate that said .05DM and i thought, hopefully not the report mode half.

estela, Friday, 27 June 2014 12:20 (nine years ago) link

its the max fraction of me active during reporting duty tbh

luis bit stink chits (darraghmac), Friday, 27 June 2014 12:31 (nine years ago) link

have you been to keogh's recently, i want to know so i can torment myself with heavenly scone visions.

estela, Friday, 27 June 2014 12:35 (nine years ago) link

seems unfair ITT and @nz to note that I start each working day with a scone of almost-keogh quality with ms mac thanks to new commuting arrangements

luis bit stink chits (darraghmac), Friday, 27 June 2014 12:50 (nine years ago) link

but the last time I was down home I brought to her place a brown bag of keoghs finest as a peace offering to her father for existing and he muttered afterwards that they were alright which is by all known accounts the highest praise to have been pried outtve him since they stopped making the old jetta

luis bit stink chits (darraghmac), Friday, 27 June 2014 12:52 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

gonna misplace 1 day today for the hell of it

Daphnis Celesta, Monday, 25 August 2014 09:57 (nine years ago) link

sup

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Monday, 25 August 2014 10:05 (nine years ago) link

feels like a boozy sentimental wastrel kind of a day and why not?

Daphnis Celesta, Monday, 25 August 2014 10:06 (nine years ago) link

I drank a little last night, which I shouldn't have, but my housemates had an actual Party while I was out seeing terrible films and having a couple of pints; the kitchen and garden have been completely trashed by R's media company mates, the kitchen table is out in the rain, upstairs toilet seat broken off, &c. Even though I have nothing to do with any of this it's contributed to a sense of unreality which along with my slight hangover/illness is making me feel as though I'm in the middle of a real Bank Holiday session (as I almost certainly would be this time last year and the year before) and I could quite happily put my sunglasses on and wander from pub to pub playing be a caméra-stylo in cambridge. Or hop on a train; a rainy carnival sounds like an excellent idea.

I'm not going to do either of these things though, I'm gonna go see the new Dardennes movie and then go to the pub with my friends and not drink.

a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Monday, 25 August 2014 10:36 (nine years ago) link

all the best dude, not being able to drink truly sucks when you love it but you seem to be handling things pretty well? i'm 1 Elliot Smith album and a couple of glasses of Cab Sauv in and i'm gonna go for a crawl manqué shortly when i can stop singing "if i didn't know the difference living alone wd probly be ok" to mysen and it will be kinda fun, friends to touch wobbly base with, mybe have a moody movie session tomorrow when my head hurts and i'm hyperventilating

everything in the world is...sort of...okay really...when you find yr zone

Daphnis Celesta, Monday, 25 August 2014 10:48 (nine years ago) link

<3

a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Monday, 25 August 2014 10:53 (nine years ago) link

Spent most of the morning wandering between book shops in Bloomsbury and Charing Cross Road in the driving rain listening to Cradle Of Filth on my headphones. That combination of camp and maudlin strikes me as more helpful today than str8 maudlin. Will spend the rest of the day with a duvet, polar-bear print onesie, calvados and a variety of books about people going to live on remote Scottish islands or traversing the fens. Not feeling overtly gloomy, as such, but could do with a break from the world and its events.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Monday, 25 August 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link

oh yer on BH yis fucks I forgot

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Monday, 25 August 2014 12:30 (nine years ago) link

Last one until Christmas. At least ye get October.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Monday, 25 August 2014 12:31 (nine years ago) link

tru

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Monday, 25 August 2014 12:42 (nine years ago) link

Will spend the rest of the day with a duvet, polar-bear print onesie, calvados and a variety of books about people going to live on remote Scottish islands or traversing the fens. Not feeling overtly gloomy, as such, but could do with a break from the world and its events.

^ gonna take life tips from SV.

have a good day Daphnis.

Fizzles, Monday, 25 August 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

am lying on a sofa in a rain lashed flat in Brighton proofing a book on institutionalised financial criminality for a friend. gonna suggest I need to be furnished with alcohol to continue.

Fizzles, Monday, 25 August 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link

good I am a fan of your tipsy ilx work

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Monday, 25 August 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link

shd have a drinking t-shirt printed bearing the slogan Doing it for Deems.

Fizzles, Monday, 25 August 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link

hey y'all

markers, Monday, 25 August 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link

hey all y'all excellent people <3

moderation and the love of a good doner are my two best accomplishments of late

Daphnis Celesta, Monday, 25 August 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

the incremental depths of moderation have subtleties of their own my appreciation for which only grows as I approach better habits I hope

but doners, nope, thanks

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Monday, 25 August 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link

living apart from my children is the lowest circle of hell

Daphnis Celesta, Sunday, 31 August 2014 10:59 (nine years ago) link

:(

nothing to say to that other than hang in there - they're clearly amazing, and that's equally clearly in no small part down to you (even if it can be hard to feel like that at times). none of that makes it less like the lowest circle of hell obviously, some of it probably makes it worse, but the fact that despite feeling like this a lot of the time you all manage to generate situations of such charm, imagination and humour together speaks a helluva a lot for your relationship. <bear hug>

Fizzles, Sunday, 31 August 2014 11:09 (nine years ago) link

^ the truth!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 31 August 2014 11:15 (nine years ago) link

yep

imago, Sunday, 31 August 2014 11:18 (nine years ago) link

thx Fizzles, that really helped me think a little straighter. fleeting visit = overwhelming emotional spasm

Daphnis Celesta, Sunday, 31 August 2014 11:20 (nine years ago) link

fizzles otm

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 August 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link

Yeah seconding both paragraphs of F's post here

kick yr eyeballs (wins), Sunday, 31 August 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

just feel shit at the moment tbh, panicky and sick about going back to work tomorrow after it went srsly sinister at the end of last term - hi secret enemy! hope you're still looking in! - feeling unlovely and blank and no idea how to get out of this rut, need to find something to do with myself beyond videogames and junkfood survival, feel more like a passive observer of the world around me than ever but not in a very observant way, locked-in and braincells going out all over Europe

Daphnis Celesta, Sunday, 31 August 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

idk where else to put this but feel like apologising for basically every post I've made in the last 24 hrs, I've been an especially shitty poster

I took some MDMA on Saturday which was a fycking stupid thing to do, and then tonight I got shitfaced

smithery loves cuntery (wins), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 01:45 (nine years ago) link

shitfaced happens

let's all make plans to form a utopian commune in independent Scotland

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 06:02 (nine years ago) link

I'm gonna have to say goodbye. At least twice over the last couple of months some anonymous person who seems oddly familiar with ILX has tried to convince my employer that I shouldn't be allowed to express thoughts as a private individual online. My employer doesn't agree, and doesn't have much interest in anonymous emails, but I don't think I'll get any joy out of posting any more.

I tried to find a balance between being honest about what it feels like to be me, living in this world, at this time, and maintaining a level of professional discretion. Obviously I got that wrong.

Anyway, thanks for everything everybody. You've been there for me at some pretty bleak moments, as well as in all the general, mundane, people-connecting-with-other-people-to-wonder-what-the-fuck-the-point-is-then-laugh-about-it moments. It's been real.

Peace.

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

;_;

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

<3

also, wtf

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

I'll miss you. And fuck that person.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

sucks the worst

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

Blue Tuesday

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link

that's gross, sinister bullshit. love this thread. 77?

ogmor, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

:-( be well man

wishing the worst for that lowest of petty shitheads obv

Branwell with anNe (wins), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

I'll miss you. And fuck that person.

― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:40 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

Dude!

(I'm certainly aware of how awful-making it feels to be targeted IRL by some anonymous fuckwit through the internet, and the sense of vulnerability it engenders.)

It sucks coz I will miss you, but I completely understand the retreat. Hope that things are OK for you...

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

ugh. so sorry, DC.

example (crüt), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

^^^^^

That's bizarre and horrible. We will all miss you.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

Ugh, that makes me so angry. We'll miss you.

jeangenet ramsey (suzy), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link

This is awful - ILX will be many magnitudes poorer without you.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

shit. you are one of the most thoughtful posters here and i hope you have or find another outlet for talking about the kinds of things you've thought through here, for the sake of the people who get to hear it as much as for yourself.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

Don't let the bastards anonymous shitheads on the internet grind you down.

wackness unlimited (snoball), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

never let the cunts win

you are being very harsh on yourself to say you have got anything wrong, any more than you are wrong to have a car because someone might steal it or wrong to go outside because someone might kill you, the vindictive will always be there to exploit anything

can understand why this would make you want to take a sabbatical but......you can always return strictly 4 the craic and the meta and like ogmor says, there are more vindictive shithead-proof areas for sensitive things if need be

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

nakh otm

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link

wtf. dc/nv - you're one of those people who manage to articulate an awful lot of things I feel only incoherently, I always respect your opinions because they're super-smart, you're v v funny, and you've taught me a lot about music, politics, reading and generally "being" (I'm sure you'd be horrified at that last one but it's true). a big, big loss, and esp sad because the situation is so screwy.

you're a good man, take care and much love.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

ditto to all, please don't deprive us of yr presence for very long sir.

clouds, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

God fucking damnit. This is some next level bullshit. DC, I truly hope you won't let "them win". As Nakh said, I understand your need to lay low, maybe at least for a while. I can only echo what others are saying, and that is that I think you are a super witty, funny, eloquent guy who lights up this board massively, for me at least. You don't deserve this, so I hope you can find a way, somehow. I'll miss you. God speed my friend.

ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

^^^

Take care, DC

Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

Wtf
Stay well

kinder, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

http://annscookbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/image64.png

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link

if kisses were snowflakes ilx'd be about as prepared for a blizzard as kingston

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

if kisses were snowflakes I'd send you a dust storm

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

if kisses were snowflakes my balls'd be blue either way

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

Jesus wept, this can't happen - you are one of the best posters on here. Just change your name or something bro. this sounds like bollocks.

xelab, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

There are many variants of the phrase, such as

Non illegitimae carborundum'
Noli illegitimi carborundum
Nil illegitimi carborundum
Non illegitimis carborundum
Illegitimi nil carborundum
Nil bastardo carborundum
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
Nil carborundum ab illegitimati
Illegitimis non carborundum
Nil illegitimo in desperandum carborundum
Nil carborundum illegitamae
Nolite Illegitimos Conterere Vos
Non carborundum bastardum

imago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

kinda wish we'd at least given u the win this evening

imago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

xp suspect the issue is a quickly recognisable posting style, which while not always a compliment on ilx obv is in this instance. if you need to remove substance from your posts to head tattletale wasteperson fuckheads off at the pass then I can see why just bowing out would be appealing. needless to say I hope this nonsense gets dealt with in due course

well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link

I am guessing this is why you went from NV to DC? Jesus, life is hard enough without people grinding you down online as well. All the best to you DC and hope you get this problem resolved.

xelab, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

Oh fuck. I will miss you a lot. I often see someone at school who looks like you, and it makes me happy. I can't think of a single time I've ever noticed you be 'unprofessional' on here. Please stick around in the alt-area of this place if you can.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 23:39 (nine years ago) link

Flamin nora, you have got to be kidding. To take all the time and effort, to go to such lengths just to be a cunty little shit, is just utterly bizarre. FUCKING WHY tho? I am staggered.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

shit. you've been one of my favourite posters on here forever - real voice of life, not just the chatter. really will miss you - stay well and find joy man.

(and yes I cannot believe that some shit would pull this shit).

woof, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

Yeah it's incredible that someone would go to those lengths. Be good and come back when the dust settles. You'll be missed, bud.

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link

DC you are a good sort; I'll miss your posts a great deal and hope to see some new ones some day. In the meantime please do what you have to and take care.

(also what everyone else said)

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 18 September 2014 08:56 (nine years ago) link

what a big set of hairy bollocks. if you need to round up a local posse, you know where I am.

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 18 September 2014 09:49 (nine years ago) link

this new development sucks heartily. do what you need to do DC, but you'll be sorely missed

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 19 September 2014 08:35 (nine years ago) link

Hope you're still using your FP privileges at least

Branwell with anNe (wins), Friday, 19 September 2014 09:02 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

do i ever miss this fucking guy

local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

um

joie de marsh (imago), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

sorry I mean yeah! yeah. RIP dude ;_;

joie de marsh (imago), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

The consistently wisest fucker on here and a brilliant person.

xelab, Monday, 20 October 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link

the guy is wonderful yeah, wherever he is

joie de marsh (imago), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:47 (nine years ago) link

major bummer

mattresslessness, Monday, 20 October 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link

riddance

龜✊ (wins), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link

*feels arctic chill from wins, gasps*

mattresslessness, Monday, 20 October 2014 23:51 (nine years ago) link

I agree with everyone who has said they refuse to grieve on line. In fact I doubt the sincerity of anyone who does so.

If you want to mark personal loss then a moment's reflection would seem to be most appropriate. I find solace in poetry, but everyone will have their own way which would be appropriate.

As regards feelings about celebrity loss ie the death of someone famous then I find that more problematical.

I met someone a few years ago who was a Manchester United fan and he was baffled why he couldn't stop weeping when George Best died. To a certain extent I think that we grieve for what we have lost personally rather than for the person whom we only know through either television, the cinema or through some other distorting lens. It's a remembrance of all those feelings we had when we were first moved by some special skill or talent that caught our attention - a transient moment of magic - now lost but brought back when we see a notice of their death.

i think we grieve for the transience.

龜✊ (wins), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

this was always the thread i posted to while being dragged around department stores, ive no idea what the significance of that is but it was in no way once-or-twice i mean p much any time this thread got traffic i was avoiding perfume aisles

local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

xp i used to be transient it wasn't all that

local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

Joop Saturday

joie de marsh (imago), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link

It's only a whimsical notion
To fly down to Rio tonight
And I probably won't fly down to Rio
But then again I just might

Chimp Arsons, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 09:00 (nine years ago) link

maybe i'mma crawl out from under my rock, stretch my tentacles again

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 09:50 (nine years ago) link

how tempting Ogden Clough looks

anvil, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 09:55 (nine years ago) link

村の人達

clouds, Friday, 31 October 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link

lol yeah but also something sort of Andrew WK-ish in that ueber-positivity

i like it, think i'm smiling with them not at them

The Falun Gong Show (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 October 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

yeah it's awesome

i think w/ a lot of japanese comedy stuff westerners assume incorrectly that the humor is unintentional

clouds, Friday, 31 October 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

"yatta!" means something like "we did it!"

clouds, Friday, 31 October 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link

Céline, monster munch, wondering if I should be worried about this dysphagia

Beer

Soledad

70s mor golden oldies station playing on pub stereo, consistently, unfeasibly beautiful

individual meta dater (wins), Saturday, 8 November 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link

celine was so important for me when i first moved to chicago and seemed to perfectly reflect the new environs (shit brown snow everywhere, unfamiliar streets) that i don't think i could read him now without some sort of spurious nostalgia for an unpleasant time

tribe? de la? no "humpty dance?" (clouds), Saturday, 8 November 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

70s mor golden oldies station playing on pub stereo, consistently, unfeasibly beautiful

Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 November 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

browsing this cool smithsonian book "great maps" dear god the world ocean floor map. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Tharp

mattresslessness, Sunday, 9 November 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link

went to yoga last night. did not feel body positive.

Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

!!!!! Was it a first or early visit?

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

yeah first, it was probably hilarious to watch - it's kinda hard to judge how you're doing when you're mostly facing right up or right down. and i was the only dude there. but i didn't hate it, i'm going back until they ban me for ungainliness

Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

:D :D :D

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

happy birthday mr wave

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 December 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

terrified of having to cope with adult life, lonely, devoid of any sense of purpose, no power to change anything that makes me unhappy, all i've learned is how to fake humanity and all i've got to do is keep repeating the illusion in public until fuck knows

can't tell what's panic and what's all there is any more

over

Gombeen Dance Band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

:(

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

seriously ... i have to console myself that at least I am capable of going through the motions

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Saturday, 3 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

yeah it's true :/ just got out of practice cos of time off

this endless sleepiness and lack of goals and just barely hanging onto cleanliness and order, this is depression again i guess? feel like i'm at the bottom of a sea of sludge

Gombeen Dance Band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 January 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link

option 1
hang in there NV, best wishes

option 2
my life is so small and narrow
where is it taking me?

option 3
i feel you, back to work on mon, all week in bed with flu (ah actually just cold, my mother got it too and she had the flu jab) wondering if i was staying in bed due to illness physical or mental: too tired to get up but not sleeping while down, or fitfully dreaming of work and waking in a cold sweat

---

take care all blue saturdayers

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

you can nearly see my office from there

he's broadly correct on the economic history aiui

english fatuus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

also she is almost directly overlooking the yard where HMS Bounty was built

english fatuus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link

because this isn't my birthplace i'm not gonna call the lad on his nihilist youth but i suspect he's embellishing a shade - here is Trinity's school uniform:

http://assets.sptacademies.org.uk/files/img_cache/Feature/980_350_1_1_DSC01929.JPG

english fatuus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link

That really florid bit about the "hard living trawlerman ethos" and them passing their "nails" genes onto him reads like absolute bollocks!

xelab, Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link

the trawlermen were pretty fucken tough to be fair - and lived it pretty large in the brief spells they spent back at home

but heavy poetic licence yeah and this lad mayn't even be a son of Hessle Rd for all we know

english fatuus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 February 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link

otoh it's in Vice i wasnae expecting an essay in social history

english fatuus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 February 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

getting bored of "hull's great despite what you might think" articles now, just fuck off and leave us alone again.

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 19 February 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link

^^^

english fatuus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 February 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link

if you need convincing then fuck you anyway

english fatuus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 February 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link

I tend to think the same. Wannabe gonzos disrespecting or fake romanticising unfashionable areas is always fucking tedious.

xelab, Thursday, 19 February 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link

I mean I'm the son of a hardman trawlerman who was part of an entire litter of em and DNA isnt what its cracked up to be tbph

local eire man (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link

that is some genuinely interesting folk history!

xelab, Saturday, 21 February 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link

feel like grey empty helpless lonely death lately

not drinking tho so :/

f***kin good lookin for a knacker (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 February 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link

Mariella will cheer you right up today: http://gu.com/p/45qq3

the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Sunday, 22 February 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link

blau tuserday

Most people think that committing suicide is easy. This is a myth. Nothing could be further from the truth. Ending your life can be extremely difficult. According to National Institute of Mental Health 92% of suicide attempts fail, and according to American Association of Suicidology 96% of suicide attempts fail (source: Wikipedia-Failed suicide attempt). If you decide to end your life then you have to prepare for it thoroughly. Consequences of a botched suicide attempt can be horrific. You could end up brain damaged and mentally handicapped. You might lose the ability to communicate or you might even experience a locked-in syndrome. This is a condition where a person appears to be in a coma but can actually feel everything. Imagine being trapped in your body for decades while at the same time experiencing excruciating pain and not being able to do anything about it. That’s what locked-in syndrome can be like. There’s nothing more horrible that can happen to a sentient being. If this happens to you then you’ll find out that hell really does exist. No matter how bad your situation is now, it can still get infinitely worse. You may only get one chance to end your life. If you do decide to end it, then you must educate yourself first and make sure you don’t end up trapped inside your own body in excruciating pain for years or even decades. I cannot stress that enough.

Note: The Peaceful Pill eHandbook is available only to competent adults capable of taking rational decisions. It is not intended for the mentally ill or depressed. Those with psychiatric conditions should contact their family physicians.

p.s. Providing information on how to end one’s life in a peaceful way is in accordance with the law.

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:41 (nine years ago) link

locked-in syndrome should be mandatory medical euthanasia in any non-byzantine society

bojaxhiu mother derive (imago), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:51 (nine years ago) link

what about locked-in-but-hammering-hard-on-the-door-to-get-out syndrome?

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:51 (nine years ago) link

is there a case for keeping someone alive just in case medical science finds a way to unlock the door?

bojaxhiu mother derive (imago), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:53 (nine years ago) link

my question was more about ascertaining the wishes of the prisoner

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:54 (nine years ago) link

In Kenya, depending on whom you ask, John Mututho is either a hero or a villain, but in a country consuming ever more alcohol, he is certainly a household name.

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:56 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtLVXBqfqBY

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 11:02 (nine years ago) link

idk days I could go for a bit of locked in syndrome if ppl would promise to be quiet

local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 11:02 (nine years ago) link

locked in. but the locks.... are on the *inside*

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link

vetinarii ref

local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

all that i want is some feeling so corny, so impossible, and so ludicrous now that all that's left for me is to crumple slowly around my increasingly empty core until there's just a neutron monument to aboulia

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2015 09:50 (nine years ago) link

I have just the thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoI5EmArCE0

anvil, Sunday, 15 March 2015 10:02 (nine years ago) link

sometimes it feels like all life is a not coming to terms with not being able to retain, return to or regain those feelings, fleeting if ever felt, so that a dull ache fills your chest, and a listlessness your mind "if i can't have that valuable corny feeling then what is the point of anything."

realise thats a more laborious restatement of what you said, but fuck it, its just by way of saying i might nab your words the next time i'm feeling that way.

on a train thru sussex surrounded by ramblers. listening to messiaen's visions of creation. yr post made me think of rilke's orpheus returning from the underworld. dunno why.

Fizzles, Sunday, 15 March 2015 10:12 (nine years ago) link

now listening to the shaymen of halifax obv.

Fizzles, Sunday, 15 March 2015 10:13 (nine years ago) link

i'll play the Shaymen later when the sick loveliness of this feeling has gone away. i'm going out to walk around in the cold and look for god knows who. too late, obv. everything lately is "i blew it"

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2015 10:17 (nine years ago) link

Allowing myself to drown in an abyssal sadness for days now, allowing it because to shut it out would be to shut myself down to a robot that survives; but I can't survive this, just barely tiptoeing thru public days, back here at night to try to starve as the weeping fits come in and out, hopelessly mourning my youth and my life and my superloneliness, going mad with sadness tbh, tiptyping alone here in bed in the dark, time got away from me, played myself, chances all torn and throwed,

Ignore bad blog move on passers-by, pygmy ozymandian way-shrine, overgrown soon.

Sober.

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link

I'm emphatically not the target audience for the aimless mr spock impersonation so I know how unwelcome this can be but it is, like, empirically not too late

tell me to stfu but it's worth keeping in mind

sexpost TMIing! (wins), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link

just hey NV.

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

yeah can I change my answer

sexpost TMIing! (wins), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link

seconding hey NV, best wishes and that

sry for stock answer of the inarticulate but those are genuine and sincere best wishes and not the kind I write on 99% of the cards which are brought round the office

undergraduate dance (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link

hey NV remember these posts about kuyt

i like kuyt and i rate him as a 'leading the line' striker but if you ask him would he like to play dawson every week i bet he'd suck off kauto star for the chance.

― dumb mick name follows (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:54 (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

every week, before each game, i'd say he'd drop to his knees and put on a bib.

― dumb mick name follows (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:54 (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nosh nosh nosh y'lright up there kauto good man good man

― dumb mick name follows (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:55 (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good times

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link

bon courage, nv

serious recommendation: take up birdwatching

http://www.rspb.org.uk/discoverandenjoynature/seenature/reserves/guide/b/blacktoftsands/

http://tophilllow.blogspot.co.uk

to pump a bit of lye (imago), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link

in which you observe normal well-adjusted people doing the things normal well-adjusted people do in their leisure time -- go camping, go to food fairs, vacation in Hawaii -- and neither Option A (the life you currently have) nor Option B (them) seem at all appealing.

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Saturday, 28 March 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link

not knowing what to do with myself is a v familiar feeling tho

the biggest aspie disser in the world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link

had a lousy one. tried to kill with drink. like a rudderless stupid gowlbag i made it worse. started the day off watching liverpool natch.

tayto fan (Michael B), Sunday, 5 April 2015 01:29 (nine years ago) link

The Easter Bank Holiday Weekend usually feels more like 4 Sundays in a row to me.

the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Sunday, 5 April 2015 11:40 (nine years ago) link

^^^ Another day and a half of this shit before I can escape and go back to work. But I don't want to go back to work.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Sunday, 5 April 2015 11:55 (nine years ago) link

In the first episode 'The Good Life', Tom writes a list and then goes and does the things on the list, like that's all there is to it.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Sunday, 5 April 2015 11:57 (nine years ago) link

maybe it just takes Felicity Kendall for inspiration

love to all blue Bank Holidayers, personally i'll take any kind of absence of employment, even if it does throw the void into sharp relief

week of 'puter action (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 April 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link

and there's always the fun of making your own entertainment...
http://imgs.littlewhitelies.co.uk/uploads/2008/04/bleak-moments-cropped.jpg

the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Sunday, 5 April 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link

Toss-up between here & I am a disaster area tbh

It's too sunny to be blue & I'm on holiday but am sort of bemusedly observing my own unsortedness today

Was drinking in the laundrette earlier & had to be like "dude you don't wanna be drinking in a laundrette c'mon"

Finn McCoolit (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:38 (nine years ago) link

Unbeknown to me my phone ringer has been set to silent for about a year

I had wondered why I never heard it ring

Finn McCoolit (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:39 (nine years ago) link

lol i was just contemplating posting "god i'm so lonely and i've wasted my life" on here

but fuck it you're right it's sunny

i don't have to drink

i'mma go commune with what passes for nature round here

week of 'puter action (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:40 (nine years ago) link

Probably a laundrette tbf

Finn McCoolit (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:41 (nine years ago) link

i think the only people i can communicate with are at the other end of a computer network

but this is probs my fault

tho it seems sometimes that i want some kind of interaction that most people aren't bothered about?

i dunno i love my kids but it's in the nature of kids often to be closely wrapped in their own thing and that's all good, you don't save yrself by grabbing hold of another swimmer and wrestling them down

ow m y head

week of 'puter action (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:42 (nine years ago) link

there is a core of blue in every soul maybe but opinions differ on the seemliness of sharing that out

week of 'puter action (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:43 (nine years ago) link

WHAT ABOUT PHILOSOPHY CLUB

Finn McCoolit (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:44 (nine years ago) link

it's next week

i think i want coconut and pineapple and just one (1) fucking cuddle for fuck's sake

week of 'puter action (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:45 (nine years ago) link

anyway this record exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te3AA0NOTUU

everybody shd just

week of 'puter action (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:47 (nine years ago) link

we were at risk of drowning once and the aul fella grabbed the two young bucks and left me and the older fella to it and we did our fuckin best to kill the other fella but siblings is different than kids obv nb we didnt drown but we sideyed each the other the rest of our days and the aul fella too

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:51 (nine years ago) link

Xpost ✓

Finn McCoolit (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 12:52 (nine years ago) link

lol i was just contemplating posting "god i'm so lonely and i've wasted my life" on here

i contemplated posting exactly EXACTLY those words (including quotation marks for attempt at ironic distance) to the drunk instructions thread recently

drash, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link

Unbeknown to me my phone ringer has been set to silent for about a year

I had wondered why I never heard it ring

― Finn McCoolit (wins), Tuesday, April 7, 2015 1:39 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i was just contemplating posting "god i'm so lonely and i've wasted my life" on here

but fuck it you're right it's sunny

i don't have to drink

i'mma go commune with what passes for nature round here

― week of 'puter action (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, April 7, 2015 1:40 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this series of posts really resonates with me for some reason

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 13:12 (nine years ago) link

I'm back at the laundrette. My stuff is in dryer 11 but I pushed the button to start number 2 because I thought it was Roman numerals

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 13:18 (nine years ago) link

machines confuse me sometimes too.

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link

although they don't scare me really, the way sometimes other things do.

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 13:28 (nine years ago) link

Oh def

I think in general I'm ok with being a bit shit

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 13:40 (nine years ago) link

I carry a diary everywhere I go it has nothing written in it

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link

i love carrying one tho

i have one that is pretty and green and shiny

small too

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link

i walked round the park, it was pretty but busy, then i bumped into a friend's wife who told me he'd died in December. fucking cancer. left a beautiful daughter around Han's age too. then i went for a walk round the block, smiled and nodded at loads of strangers. there was a huge queue at the new gelato shop on Newland so i didn't get icecream, went to Lidl instead. got nice food. sun still shining. tomorrow Han's coming round.

we get by, don't we?

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link

Ayuh

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link

yes

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link

we do, somehow

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link

:) love you guys

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link

haha FEEL THE INNER GLOW NV

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link

definitely feel the inner glow

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link

such a bogus world-view mourning the things you don't have

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link

they had a copy of this

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51TE8T974HL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

in Oxfam and like a fool i didn't get it. might have to go back tomorrow.

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link

Eh I wouldn't spend a lot of time having feelings about it, the world is p much designed to encourage us to focus that way. Resistance and getting free of it where we can is the holy joy.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:58 (nine years ago) link

you mean like breaking the mold?

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link

Sure! Idk what I mean, whatever it is for you I guess.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link

I am a contrary motherfucker so I feed on that kind of thing.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

resistance is a v. necessary trait and not contrary imo

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link

:)

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link

yeah i like it. the world is such a weird place - you need to make it your own! grab a hold of it!

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link

Did u read that clouds post in what are you into thread, that was great stuff

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link

clouds is excellent people too

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link

no where's the post - can u post?

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link

i'm into this ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENCE kick i've been on lately -- i have spent so much of my life terrified of being seen as queer, weird, ridiculous, etc. but... I AM ALL THOSE THINGS but also realizing (i mean i've sort of known but never really internalized it) that this is the very quality that people who like me appreciate.

also just putting more energy into looking cute/not dressing like a bum/not being fearful of standing out in any way.

like, i've done all the homework you know? i've spent years and years exerting so much effort to not offend, telling myself the lie (and believing it) that i was doing it out of some feeling of obligation to "make society better" and not merely a seeking of approval coupled with a fear of being hurt or singled out. sometimes it's liberating to be... kind of a dick!

tl;dr right now i am into being looking, feeling, being MAGNIFICENT <3

― clouds, Sunday, 5 April 2015 01:02 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link

it's really a life ethos. i appreciate it, very much, as an idea. you have to know what you have. to really know what you have to offer.

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link

http://cdn.realscreen.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/river-monsters-3D.jpg?3ccae2";An A-Z of Roguish Britons Through the Ages"

"Roguish Briton" strikes me as something of an oxymoron on the same level as "extreme angler."

http://cdn.realscreen.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/river-monsters-3D.jpg?3ccae2

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

does Briton mean British person?

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

Donaldson who wrote the book was an interesting guy, ran thru several fortunes, probably a pig to know personally, wrote v funny spoof letters to the great and good in the guise of a retired wet fish dealer called Henry Root.

also i love River Monsters

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

yeah Briton is the correct form of Britishes

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

oh nice

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

Christopher just discovered River Monsters. I don't mind it. It's always a catfish tho rite?

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link

glad thread picked up btw it is the best drying day of the year so far and I'm home early

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link

i've got to put my heating on to dry clothes at the moment, window of opportunity in my back yard is short. god i hate hanging out clothes, it's the worst bit of washing

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link

xxpost

lol it is frequently a catfish but there was a great giant salamander ep one time

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link

it is, let's be fuckin clear here, the worst part of anything

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link

Did you know they recently discovered a salamander the size of a CAR

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link

no they recently manufactured a car the size of a salamander I think it was

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link

lol

surm, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Lol

*sees impractically small car* the crazy son of a bitch, he did it

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link

man that jobs huh

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

Haha

Srsly tho, car-sized salamanders. They were about once. I love that. I am obsessed with very large and very small animals.

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link

If they made a Jurassic park I would be there opening day

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link

Heck if they made a dodo park! Or elephant birds. THEY WERE REALLY BIG BIRDS MATES

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link

getting things dodone

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link

chillness index 6/5

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link

keep off sign is unchill

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

i misread it as "Keep Out"

what the hell dinosaur people?

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link

if I saw that down the park I wouldn't just keep of the grass I'd probably quit the drink as well tbh

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link

The eyes light up at night for extra wtf

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

How we roll in MI

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link

where is it located, is that a park?

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

http://www.kampvilla.com/

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link

y'all come and hang. i'll make a giant okonomiyaki.

clouds, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 05:02 (nine years ago) link

i shd save my pennies for a world tour

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 07:40 (nine years ago) link

i shd save my pennies for a bagel

or a Louis Vuitton bag, always wanted one of those things

surm, Friday, 10 April 2015 14:28 (nine years ago) link

q: wonder how much carefully combed-thru angst is just shortage of beer money and freedom?

possible answerhole 1: otoh, if you hadn't always spent everything on beer maybe you wd be more fulfilled and accomplished in other ways

q: srsly? seems unlikey

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 09:50 (nine years ago) link

possble answehole 2: when you've doubled down long enough on failure it really makes no sense to back out. either you reject aspiration from sound moral prinicples or this is deathbed chickening . nagl.

q: i guess whne all the gumps are done achieving the void will be with us still but o god the path is scary enough, satori really looks downhillll from everywhere. nobility of abgnetion

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 09:57 (nine years ago) link

that hurts doubly cos an attack of cramp in each thigh halfway through a school sports day 100m (still won obv) and a similarly shaped head to hanks did actually lead to me being called bump at school for a year

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:07 (nine years ago) link

fuckin phone

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:08 (nine years ago) link

possible a 1: i suspect you have always been predicated on "being somewhere else" but alkohol has usually been the nearest somewehre else

xp: pure gump chance. it's the successes i feel sorry for

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:09 (nine years ago) link

there was a guy behind me essentially acting as an NFL blocker tbh, I'm told it was quite the viewing experience

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:11 (nine years ago) link

it occurred to me this week, a propos of very little, that a lot of old guys - and by old i guess i mean my age and up at this point - that you (i) talk to in pubs have only got one mode of discourse re: politics and it is immediate radge near-threatening towards any idea that might be considerable as less than hundred percent toughness

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:15 (nine years ago) link

I think its important to get out and about away from ILX political discourse -earnest, liberal to a fault, concerned to near patronising extent, all that stuff- and into the real world for idk ten mins every month before retreating back to ILX and thanking god its there at all

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:25 (nine years ago) link

i enjoy my round the bar conversations but god i keep my mouth shut for a lot of it, not from fear so much as the sake of my ears. the weirdness of it is, these lads are usually comfortable in their skins and lives but convinced that some foreign communist of a sexually ambiguous persuasion is gonna snatch it all away at the first sign of weakness

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:31 (nine years ago) link

actually i think what i fist noticed and what is most fun is its the same spittle-radge vehemence even when they're agreeing with you about some small beans roadworks

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:32 (nine years ago) link

all political violence is local

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:50 (nine years ago) link

gd wish i was there

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:54 (nine years ago) link

what's the coffee like at ur local

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:58 (nine years ago) link

i'd imagine it's adequate but as i intimated tbh this is a dilemma of financial rather than mental/physical health dimensions

i dunno i don't care if i had enough to just wobble my way down the rest of the rd i wd gladly take it right now, peace that passeth any standing

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 11:08 (nine years ago) link

it gets wearing scraping the money together for enough to drink often enough, shit got so expensive

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 11:09 (nine years ago) link

the price of drink would drive you to drink obv

I thought yesterday was payday and that I was doing well this month, rong, rong. ah well.

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 April 2015 11:12 (nine years ago) link

next thursday, but it's not like it alleviates much

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 11:14 (nine years ago) link

bus pass, bye (to butcher Yeats)

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 April 2015 11:25 (nine years ago) link

i think maybe with pub too i feel bad when i do and bad when i don't

finding the wrong kind of company tbh, tho i cherish it

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 18 April 2015 11:27 (nine years ago) link

yay i remember now why i don't drink

might kill myself later when i've got the strength

nobody cares tho, they enjoy my drunken presence but nobody ever says "hey jim you stopped doing this do you think you shd stop again now because you've been here for at least 12 hours and tbh you look a bit crusty and spittly and grungy and ffs dude you are essentially wrecking yrself yeah?"

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 19 April 2015 10:33 (nine years ago) link

i am now gon' run thru SNA posting "X otfm" for a bit or something

i't's kinda im[rressive or depressive how much monet you can run thru once the wheels drop off

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 19 April 2015 10:48 (nine years ago) link

ime ppl just want the expected you and don't rly care if yr habits are self-destructive bc it's what they expect. some kind of foucaultian panopticism shit. for evidence of this watch ppl's reactions when you tell them about some big life improvement yr'e making, like "i decided to stop eating meat" or "i'm starting a course of religious austerities" and see how alienated they become

truvada mangano (clouds), Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link

yeah. and tbf most of my friends like a drink and i wd be argumentative if i were encouraged to stop mid-session.

but there's gots to be more than this, love/hate it as i do

Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link

some big life improvement yr'e making, like "i decided to stop eating meat"

ah here now

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link

i recently quit being 100% veg and got the same kinds of reactions fwiw

truvada mangano (clouds), Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

None of my friends are judgy about my diet in any direction, and if they are they keep that shit to themselves, this is the way I would keep it for the same reason I hope nobody ever says "hey jim you stopped doing this do you think you shd stop again now because you've been here for at least 12 hours and tbh you look a bit crusty and spittly and grungy and ffs dude you are essentially wrecking yrself yeah?" to me

My name isn't Jim for one

piqued (wins), Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link

I mean supporting me in changes I decide to make is one thing

piqued (wins), Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link

btw guys playing that Morton Feldman and John Cage in conversation video over a loop of the Animal Crossing music is probly the best thing i have ever devised

Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

yeah. and tbf most of my friends like a drink

sigh ... it often makes me wonder if i should get different friends

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Sunday, 19 April 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

looking forward to vomiting in a bit

neetsooh ebebay (wins), Monday, 20 April 2015 00:08 (nine years ago) link

btw guys playing that Morton Feldman and John Cage in conversation video over a loop of the Animal Crossing music is probly the best thing i have ever devised

the closest semi-successful thing i've done like this was play eno's "neroli" layered over "thursday afternoon"

good sleep music

truvada mangano (clouds), Monday, 20 April 2015 05:24 (nine years ago) link

i am planning a 900 person dinner

just fyi it's in 5 days

surm, Friday, 24 April 2015 05:32 (nine years ago) link

almost panicked just thinking about that

Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 April 2015 06:03 (nine years ago) link

thank you

surm, Friday, 24 April 2015 06:25 (nine years ago) link

In your HOUSE?

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 24 April 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link

NO. thank god. jesus you almost just gave me a heart murmur. : )

surm, Friday, 24 April 2015 13:32 (nine years ago) link

jkjk

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 24 April 2015 13:46 (nine years ago) link

hahaa

surm, Friday, 24 April 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05v2xkr/pop-slam-series-2-3-sam-smith-v-selena-gomez

for a limited time only may feature 2 seconds of Hannah around the 2'10" mark

☂ (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 May 2015 08:32 (nine years ago) link

Selena Gomez was on my last issue of V magazine. she looked 12.

surm, Sunday, 17 May 2015 12:16 (nine years ago) link

told Han 2 years ago she'd've chosen Selena over Sam Smith in a shot

☂ (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 May 2015 12:23 (nine years ago) link

monday morning, dark grey drizzle sky, y/day i realised i got nothing going on but the same empty distractions - which isn't depressing as such, i am fairly firmly post-depression, but it is...pitiful or pathetic or something of that ilk

summer is never going to come, i'm never going to be not bumping along the line of subsistence

ugh

need to empty my head more. outside has been unpleasantly unreal/distant lately.

eremitic brid (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 May 2015 06:14 (nine years ago) link

I have been looking at drugs.com for a safer version of self-medication lately and discovered Rhodiola Rosea, just mentioning it because allegedly it can be beneficial for managing mild to moderate depression and mental fatigue. I couldn't tell you if it is any good because it hasn't dropped through the letterbox yet but I was reading somewhere that it is has been used by the Russian military for decades as an organic stimulant.

xelab, Monday, 18 May 2015 09:01 (nine years ago) link

interesting

the more i think about it the more i think about how everything revolves around science and chemistry but then there's art which throws me off

i dunno, all i know is that drugs can be a good thing

surm, Monday, 18 May 2015 11:03 (nine years ago) link

hey hannah on tv!

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 08:55 (nine years ago) link

wait are we only supposed to post on this thread on Saturdays? oops

surm, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link

no, just on saturnine days iirc

yeovil knievel (NickB), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link

ok got it

surm, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link

I think we agreed it was "blues at ur day"

time trafel 2015 💨 2012 (wins), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link

^^^

eremitic brid (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

Blues a turd, ay

ledge, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

I'm in a readerly mood today, gonna start several books and not finish them

So You've Been Pubically Shaved (wins), Saturday, 23 May 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Very nearly bought a copy of bernhard's der untergeher that had been discounted to £1 in waterstone's, even though it was in German

So You've Been Pubically Shaved (wins), Saturday, 23 May 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link

Thinking of reading trollope's palliser novels, they look appealing sitting on my shelf idk

My friend just read all of zola's 20-novel cycle, I forget the name, it was kind of inspiring, kind of what kind of demented hobbyist reads (writes) novels tbpfidkw/e

Took me a thousand years to read Céline's trilogy and I don't know what I got from it

So You've Been Pubically Shaved (wins), Saturday, 23 May 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link

's funny i've got 3 or 4 books on the go atm and can't get stuck into anything, not sure if this is encroaching senility or what

gong mad (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 May 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link

Kristin Davis is gorgeous

surm, Monday, 25 May 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link

no argument here

gong mad (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 May 2015 06:11 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51dEUKCMyIk

that spiraling apathy and somnolence that consumes me all weekend... can't tell if it's better or worse than the anxiety that accompanies the work week. i guess with the latter there's less chance of me going off the deep end.

brimstead, Monday, 25 May 2015 23:45 (nine years ago) link

work week anxiety is so fake though. it's like you get home and you think about that thing that happened at work and you're like, was i acting in a play?

surm, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 11:10 (nine years ago) link

weird, that's exactly how i felt the other week - "why do i behave like that? i don't like it, it isn't me"

gong mad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 12:02 (nine years ago) link

yea it's like you 2.0

surm, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 12:24 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Naran Goohon was very distressed,
Taking his out from between her legs
She pushed the baby away from her.
Sengelen Noyon said to his wife:
“It is a good thing for a man
To have a son born to him
At an age when he will soon become
Old and decrepit.
A son is good for a man,
A yolk is good for an egg!”
He dandled the ugly and unsavory child on his knee,
He put him in his cradle.
The reddish-faced son of Sengelen Noyon
Was decidedly different from the very start.
As soon as he was born he was
Raising his right arm as if to strike,
Bending his leg as if to kick,
The right eye looking straight ahead,
The left eye squinting.

The father and mother were vary surprised,
Naran Goohon was very astonished,
“Raising the right hand so has what meaning?
Bending the leg in this way had what meaning?
Why does the right eye look straight ahead?
Why does he squint his left eye?
When she had said these words in wonder,
The ugly unsavory boy spoke these words as he lay in the cradle:
“I raise my right hand to strike down my brave enemies,
I bend my leg to kick my cowardly enemies,
Glancing with my right eye I see the right way to go,
Squinting with my left eye I see through deception.”
Thus were the words of the little red infant as he lay there.

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 06:20 (eight years ago) link

one day we will all be rebooted please Shiva

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 06:22 (eight years ago) link

hanging on for (another) life

bit blue myself today (deep underwater, staring into void)

thanks for intro to king gesar

http://college.holycross.edu/projects/himalayan_cultures/2011_plans/gkakas/Images/Gesar_01.jpg

drash, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link

blue, it has to be said, has come to be my favourite swathe of colours

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2015 05:12 (eight years ago) link

https://scaaic.org/app/uploads/2014/12/jmpool.jpg

drash, Thursday, 25 June 2015 11:28 (eight years ago) link

had a real blip of unexpected depression y/day, full-on sensitivity to too much noise, people, etc., couldn't think at all, heart fluttering around an anxiety attack...hadn't felt like this for months and months

and it was partly ramped up by this innocuous training session all about behaviour management, and the part of me that was fiercely resisting/made nauseous by the model of a sensible and orderly society that the trainer was pitching and my compadres was nodding along to...it's hard to explain, i wanted to argue but i didn't have the strength and it didn't seem pertinent and i figured it was my pathology

what people around me seem to desire and accept as a good world makes me very ill with fear and sadness sometimes. i dunno if not being depressed has involved me hiding this from myself or displacing it or trying to ignore it, or if yesterday was an outlying biochemical accident. but i remembered something i'd forgot. and being functional - in my current social context - seems to depend on forgetting it

i'm far from claiming i'm right and they're wrong but i am really not compatible with Stepford and its ongoing psychic demands

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 06:05 (eight years ago) link

boss told me not to be "too philosophical" when drawing up my own staff development stuff this week, this is the demand the world keeps making of me, quiescence, minimal-reflective action, get along little dogie, get along

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 06:07 (eight years ago) link

question raised also - this thread = symptom of illness or notepad of being awake??

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 06:08 (eight years ago) link

don't want to be like kafa on a downer but those two feel complementary more than exclusive. "this long disease my life" as alexander pope said it.

there's a principle, which is to remove from the approach to life anything that might lead to uncertainty, unhappiness, melancholy or a feeling that life is empty. it's a form of utilitarianism I think, or maybe reverse utilitarianism - an approach designed to deliver the greatest number of goods for me. it's an approach that suggests having a philosophical view, or a style of thought that includes unpragmatic ideals, is unlikely to lead to an uncluttered or usefully productive life and is therefore bad. When held up to the light it frankly looks like some sort of dystopic anti-thought mentality, but at the same time, I'm not so sure it's such a bad thing. Keep it simple. There's enough stuff to bring unhappiness and complication in life without adding to it with post-20th century philosophical involutions. A form of decandence. Why are we so sure about the potential for our unhappiness and tangles of complications to lead to something like truthes? That's even assuming those truthes would be useful, illuminating or good.

Perhaps unfortunately I'm not that person. For better or for worse I've always been with the guy at the end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. And frankly people who seem to have quite a happy career or house/family/retirement plan give me the heebie-jeebies. Though good on 'em I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUB3ZR4F8vw

Fizzles, Thursday, 2 July 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

I worked hard on getting there don't knock it its p fucking great

irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 July 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

darragh i wouldn't undermine your sublime ascension to an enfranchised and corporate mortality, but all us less-fortunate plebs have left to us is a sort of begrimed and filthy resentment and depression. You won't take that away at least will you. I'm drinking fwiw.

Fizzles, Thursday, 2 July 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

he thinks the suffering in Greece is hyperbolic, or is he just constantly trolling?

xelab, Thursday, 2 July 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

u misspells hilarious

irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 July 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link

fzls I was more referring to

"There's enough stuff to bring unhappiness and complication in life without adding to it with post-20th century philosophical involutions. A form of decandence. Why are we so sure about the potential for our unhappiness and tangles of complications to lead to something like truthes? That's even assuming those truthes would be useful, illuminating or good."

tbh

irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 July 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

ppl who aren't butchers shd be allowed whatever satori they attain is my take

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link

am enjoying the species v much btw

irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link

fuckin phone I swear

irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

selfies

irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

oh I was just fooling around. but yeah I think I'd read your bit as a wry "hey, don't ruin it it for those of us who have attained it" rather than "leave my truthes alone, I like em!"

Fizzles, Friday, 3 July 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

loving the e in truths it is a helpful reminder to an uncultured paddy

irl lol (darraghmac), Friday, 3 July 2015 06:31 (eight years ago) link

selfie series is amusing me mightily for now, plus documenting the mondane

obv my irl self is a perma-dialectic between blandly smiling acceptance and tortured sophist boychild and i wdn't give the laurels to either of those guys

i killed the monday depresso in quick order - have acquired some skill in not thinking - but think is still the deep dark ocean i flounder in for better or woerse

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 July 2015 06:37 (eight years ago) link

i remembered something i'd forgot. and being functional - in my current social context - seems to depend on forgetting it

oh i know this feeling, and the sudden horror of "how could i allow myself to forget this for so long when in reality it gets worse every day" versus "i need to forget this again or i will feel it getting worse every day"

good vibes people

liked the fizzles post obv

Abraham raves doubtlessly (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 3 July 2015 08:37 (eight years ago) link

walk something like this tightrope too

“i remembered something i'd forgot”
for me this hits at night, like night terror, but wave of awful awakening, indescribable dread & anxiety

one time it didn’t dissipate, persisted for days nights days nights weeks months… interminable black hole

maybe i so fear that experience recurring that i’ll take shallow self-distracted quasi-pseudo-contentment
but what if it’s deadened numbness i’m living—
and what if it’s the numbness that eventually leads to the terror

related to regret & mid-life crisis threads
trying to find/live some kind of wakefulness between numbness & nauseating angst
that’s painful but also only possible access maybe to something sometimes sorta resembling ‘happiness’

sorry for emo post

drash, Friday, 3 July 2015 12:36 (eight years ago) link

:-) this is ILX's home of emo posts

i recognize all those self-questions. but i also know, when i remember, that right now i'm pretty healthy and reasonably well-adjusted and seasoning that with a dash of "don't repeat all those feckless missteps you made for years" is probly as near-good as it can reasonably get.

and mostly that's ok.

but god there's nothing like an annual staff conference to reaffirm my faith in wanting this way of running the world to come to a rapid halt

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 July 2015 13:02 (eight years ago) link

and when you've had a half hour of would be standup comedy and retooled CBT and "mindfulness" spewed out in the service of being a more effective tool of yr employers then just a little bit of deadened numbness feels like an ok vaccine

2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 July 2015 13:04 (eight years ago) link

http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-hull-street-scenes-1957/

this is so fucking beautiful, we shd build an internet where a billion silent documents of IRL bloom

aw video not authorized for my location
but found (another?) john turner film here: http://www.yorkshirefilmarchive.com/film/hull-street-scenes-1
so fucking beautiful, yes

drash, Thursday, 9 July 2015 12:52 (eight years ago) link

i've not gone back and checked but the BFI video may be partly the same footage. Yorkshire Film Archive has a lot of brilliant things on it.

nagged by the idea that i'm too dilettante and inattentive and that i shd find some subject to get deep into, a project to structure my life around maybe, then my butterfly brain just flits off again going nowehre but round the same tiny back yard of insubstantial flowers

& then it transpires that as a functionally straight white male you have nothing of any worth to give, but that you can't even complain about this because you've been the oppressor for centuries and your privilege must be taken down by vast and impersonal means

having a really shit few months myself, obv

The Bends by Radiohead (imago), Sunday, 12 July 2015 11:34 (eight years ago) link

:-(

the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Sunday, 12 July 2015 11:37 (eight years ago) link

fwiw I do not think the request for more female voices in that thread equated to "str8 men are not allowed to speak ever" (and I do think it was gross that a load of men immediately felt the need to make their own voices heard as tho this was the case)

the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Sunday, 12 July 2015 11:39 (eight years ago) link

:\

i'm sorry to hear that dude. hope things get better for you.

^ :(

drash, Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:03 (eight years ago) link

Bright side at least functionally straight amirite m8s B-)

the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:05 (eight years ago) link

posting itt as is customary when following someone around inside a dept store hi all

irl lol (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:07 (eight years ago) link

deems are you racially profiling again

the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:08 (eight years ago) link

perfect

irl lol (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:10 (eight years ago) link

lol

drash, Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:11 (eight years ago) link

srsly tho and kudos aside, I follow 100% sww with posh accents around dept stores I think I'm doing my bit to break the cycle

irl lol (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:11 (eight years ago) link

i have been familiarizing myself with the work of Alfie Deyes tbf

ty ppl, can trust you lot to be kind & compassionate above all

The Bends by Radiohead (imago), Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:22 (eight years ago) link

boss told me not to be "too philosophical" when drawing up my own staff development stuff this week, this is the demand the world keeps making of me, quiescence, minimal-reflective action, get along little dogie, get along

― 2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, June 30, 2015 1:07 AM (1 week ago)

been reading d+g if i've got it right i think they say u shld dismantle their faces w/ a brick when they talk like this

j., Sunday, 12 July 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

that wd align with my reading too but my boss isn't the villain here really, we just have different approaches to our werk

i was gonna respond to what you said about x1000 Plat in the other thread before - rigorous concepts with definitions buried elsewhere in the text or even in other texts - it's all good food (was gonna say "fun" there but let's let it ride) anyway - my copy has Brian Massumi trying to explain some of the concepts in the foreword but tbh i still think of BWOs as intentionally impenetrable knots in the woodwork

think my body without organs is me reified as the little Buddhas figures i like to collect, all solid and rounded and made of one piece of i don't know what really

which would probably serve purpose as brick like projectiles come to think of it :)

marzipan

j., Sunday, 12 July 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

shd've let this diversion wander into the D&G thread really

LINES OF FLIGHT

j., Sunday, 12 July 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

i wd've eaten marzipan Buddha even tho i'm not wild about marzipan apart from as necessary element of Christmas/wedding cake

a marzipan buddha overloading a deterritorialized wedding cake = my decade

'who left this cake here?!?'

j., Sunday, 12 July 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link

nomad proverb: "it is dangerous to contemplate cake when the baker's is a week's ride distant"

enjoying this discussion.

e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Sunday, 12 July 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

that proverb, i mean.

e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Sunday, 12 July 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

it is not a question of enjoyment

j., Sunday, 12 July 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

rather it is a question of intensities

j., Sunday, 12 July 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

yesterday i told my brother i'm angry at my parents and sad he's raising his kid mormon after de-friending him on facebook. i was sad after that but feeling better today if a little fuzzy. nv that kind of behavior training is gross indoctrination and of course you would react to it. xp yeah yeah

e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Sunday, 12 July 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

families & sadness and gross indoctrination, i feel you. so much of relationships ends up being about protecting yrself, which is sucky. i'm trying to take that consciousness about how other people make me feel and use it to remind me how not to treat the people i care about in future

yeah it's truly more rewarding than castigating the shits who are thicker than yourself, an unhealthy habit like smoking cigarettes made all the more pleasurable by how few people do it, ultimately hollow and destructive though.

e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Sunday, 12 July 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

god knows sometimes i need a cig or a quick castigate

nagged by the idea that i'm too dilettante and inattentive and that i shd find some subject to get deep into, a project to structure my life around maybe, then my butterfly brain just flits off again going nowehre but round the same tiny back yard of insubstantial flowers

oh I relate. I like to internet-diagnose myself with things as excuses for my inability to get on in various senses and so far the single but all-annulling entry in the Against column of "am I 'on the spectrum'?" is that I have never been deep into anything. I've had fairly narrow interests but even there I have always been content to skim the surface, look at the pretty pictures, and then go back to bed

imagine my surprise on starting my computing degree and meeting the competition

maybe one of these years I'll find something I can get deep enough into that I'll know what I should have done instead

Abraham raves doubtlessly (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 12 July 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

yall going deep is very often going shallow think about it. you have strengths the competition doesn't have.

e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Sunday, 12 July 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link

yeah if i was talking to somebody else i'd make that argument, i guess lately i feel a rootlessness nagging at me and maybe stopping me from getting anywhere i'd like to go - literally as well as psychically.

aps i don't think deep level fixations are an always-present feature of autism, something i've pondered myself too

it is entirely possible to be on the spectrum in a fairly major way & yet feel diffident towards almost everything

regards,

The Bends by Radiohead (imago), Sunday, 12 July 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

eh I just want a badge to say it's not my fault, but it is my fault, and it's not even an interesting fault because probably most people feel this lost anyway and how arrogant of me to have expected not to

sorry you've had a bad few months, best wishes and stuff

Abraham raves doubtlessly (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 12 July 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

god knows sometimes i need a cig or a quick castigate

― This is for my new ringpiece, so please only serious answers (Noodle Vague), Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:11 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you'll go blind you know

the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Sunday, 12 July 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

ty xp

was just backing you up - it's a valid factor in behavioural abnormality & altho self-diagnosis is a troublesome proposition, if it helps you rationalise the way you are then it's probably a good thing

The Bends by Radiohead (imago), Sunday, 12 July 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

issues around diagnosis get trickier as you get older and esp if you're a woman

nothing is an excuse tbh, how can we separate the biochemistry and social surroundings that brought us to where we are? how do we alter our characters unless our characters are already susceptible to mutability? sure there are things most of us can do to feel like we've got more control of our own lives but...i suspect a lot of that feeling mayn't be grounded in something acting freely and unencumbered with psychic baggage

god knows where self disappointment comes from but i suspect it's largely as programmed into us as any of those traits we wish we could change

nothing is an excuse, i mean, just a statement of where we are now and maybe partly how we got here, and a dream of getting elswehre that might only ever be a dream

Just about everybody I have ever liked would probably score high on the Autism Quotient numbers, peace to you all.

"issues around diagnosis get trickier as you get older and esp if you're a woman"

Diagnosis for girls might be problematic as well because there always seems to be a a male majority, my son's last group school photo has a 8:2 male:female ratio and this is at a school that is currently becoming a whole-autism school.

xelab, Sunday, 12 July 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link

arguments abound as to whether that diagnosis gap reflects a real disparity or whether the current diagnostic criteria aren't adequate for identifying autism in women. i think the latter possibility is under-explored and needs more work.

think the bwo is playing the part of 'intentionally impenetrable knots in the woodwork' in logic of sense but come ao and atp has something more determinate and workable to it, tho not exactly easily so. incidentally, i've seen it fairly convincingly suggested that autism is a better term for what d&g are getting at with the bwo than schizophrenia is.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link

had never considered that and it is a v interesting notion

two weeks pass...

visiting mom and dad for a few nights gets stranger the older i get, weird juxtaposition of emotional states and ages, but it helps me think about the now.

pondering whether the desire for romance and adventure is only a delusional sickness at my age or whether it's a sharp poke towards being alive. veering towards the latter, hopeless as it feel sometimes.

regret it? nope. reddit? yep. (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 July 2015 09:22 (eight years ago) link

Definitely the latter.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 27 July 2015 09:24 (eight years ago) link

i think yeah. first problem is irl magic shit doesn't just happen out of the blue.

regret it? nope. reddit? yep. (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 July 2015 09:25 (eight years ago) link

No; one has to facilitate its happening. But if you accept that it's the latter, then you can be positive and proactive about it, which is facilitating, surely?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 27 July 2015 09:39 (eight years ago) link

sure. maybe. sure.

there's no desire that isn't heavily contingent on the real world and its infinite fuckery

which is okay, that's the game

regret it? nope. reddit? yep. (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 July 2015 09:47 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

can't decide if anxiety and resentment are essential elements of parenthood or essential elements of middle age

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 09:17 (eight years ago) link

I would say neither, I'm a middle aged parent and I feel neither of these emotions on a regular basis. ymmv.

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 12:27 (eight years ago) link

ach well, small sample size

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 12:36 (eight years ago) link

Idk I always seem to hear from parents that they're in a constant state of anxiety fueled by love? I guess some ppl are better at pushing it aside to get basic lyfe done but I kind thought it was always there hovering nearby? The joy and the fear, so close together they're almost indistinguishable.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 13:27 (eight years ago) link

anxiety on some wave-length or other seems like permanent fixture in my life
most of my resentment is self-directed

drash, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link

OMG J your tiny babby kids! They were so cute!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

^^^
yeah, that's a beautiful photograph

drash, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

i know - it stirs up the mixedest of emotions :/

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

(all love, not just eros, bittersweet/sweetbitter)
(nostalgia)

drash, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

otm

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

you get to a point, if you make enough wrong decisions - or i imagine for plenty of people decisions are irrelevant - where an emptiness opens up that you have no way of filling, a lostness that you've got no map for. and this isn't depression, because you can function, you can hold down a job, you can close your eyes and mostly make that emptiness and lostness go away. you can drink to fill that hole - it doesn't fill it but it takes a while to drain away and at least it feels - well it numbs - like you're outside looking for your way. but really there's no way and no filling that hole because you've got to a point. you've got past a point.

i would like to put a hand on the shoulder of everybody who passed their point. cities full of people full of unfillable holes. helpless to one another. deep in the soft safe blue.

bombsover# (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 09:35 (eight years ago) link

<3 :(

and yet and yet, but still but still
worlds irretrievably lost, possibilities irretrievably gone; but innumerable potentialities (trails to be followed, or ignored), experiences, points still to come, from which you’ll look back to now & think...

that’s what i tell myself, to rouse myself from torstupor, but tbh not sure that’s any help or consolation (& may be more terrifying)
to one adrift, at sea
(feel lost out in trackless blue too)

maybe, also, matter of opening oneself up to chance, chance still, to gamble & labyrinth of life, instead of shutting oneself off/ down/ away (which of course is gamble too, there’s no opting out of game)
(& of course certain kind of gambling = compulsive escaping)
(bad at taking my own advice, too often withdraw into hermit crab shell, with “:)” upon it as camouflage)

stimes worry about persistent numbness more than anguish, caring for/about others but not really giving a fuck about oneself (feeling that ‘me’ is just, or even less than, ‘one’), as if unconsciously avoiding pain that way, pain of loss & longing (dysfunctional buddhism)
as if
distant (re)call— shrug (vertigo) (until next abyssal night terror)

i would like to put a hand on the shoulder of

same. that gesture means a lot though, even just as letters on a screen

drash, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link

:-) this is ILX's home of emo posts

taking you at yr word here

drash, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

got fired from muh job on sunday -- part of me is glad cus i wasn't having fun anymore and this forces me to do something different, but still, sucks being told you aren't good enough for something.

i've been spending this week smoking a lot of weed, drinking lots of black coffee and listening to techno with the aromatherapy oil burner diffusing lots of lavender to try to keep from feeling like shit. it's mostly working but still kinda blue.

wappy legs (clouds), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc_fzbP_SOs

wappy legs (clouds), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

they're not telling you you aren't good enough, they're telling you they aren't good enough

MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

thanks bud

wappy legs (clouds), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

stay strong c

ogmor, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

nice to see you clouds
nv otm

drash, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

ya know, if i cd just get out from under relentless debt-driven spiral of abject poverishment i think i wd be as close to "winning" as i've been for years

outraged about summat (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 September 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

thumbs

oddesseslessness (wins), Friday, 4 September 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link

<3 clouds

oddesseslessness (wins), Friday, 4 September 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsVhwQsh86c

outraged about summat (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 September 2015 10:11 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMatuGwX8tY

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 5 September 2015 10:17 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

beautiful day tempered by the feeling that the possibility of future emotional intimacy is remote

bellendery hooks (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 September 2015 10:53 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiEFi3FNBPE

bellendery hooks (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 September 2015 10:54 (eight years ago) link

not a cloud in the sky and perfectly still

Robert Kenedy Nunes do Nascimento (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 September 2015 10:57 (eight years ago) link

gonna go walk and walk, Han is hanging round town with friends, tonight we'll watch West Side Story together and i'll remember i'm lucky forever

bellendery hooks (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 September 2015 11:00 (eight years ago) link

some clouds now

Robert Kenedy Nunes do Nascimento (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 September 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link

It is a genuine source of irrational irritation when all the cafés/pubs with outdoor seating happen to be in the shade

the siteban for the hilarious 'lbzc' dom ips (wins), Saturday, 19 September 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

blue sky Saturday

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 September 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

i shd think so

OshoKosho B'Gosho (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEXQaQcwJao

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link

that was meant to be this but whatever antheil is good too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21SMdsr-i78

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link

Sunday twilight still the cruelest moment of the week

OshoKosho B'Gosho (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link

maybe commit suicide by reading the John Lennon vs Paul McCartney thread

OshoKosho B'Gosho (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link

Eubie Blake is comforting tho

OshoKosho B'Gosho (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

its still rather light and warm in london and forecast to remain settled for a while
sunday evening circa early november is more the ticket for high maudlin verging on dysphoric

nakhchivan, Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

oh i know we're 4/5 months downhill from here

OshoKosho B'Gosho (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

nameReinhard Gruhl/name (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 September 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

every working day i wind up being judgey and opinionated and tho they may be important aspects of humanity they're the bits of myself that make me feel most sad and dislikeable

articulated this thought better in my head last night

the World is a grey wet vale of distracted corruption

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 05:59 (eight years ago) link

thinking of maybe winning nu-lottery

(emphasis mine) (wins), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:42 (eight years ago) link

if any of youse are a capricious millionaire would you consider paying me a living wage to work full-time as a flâneur? I will endeavour to write one mildly amusing status update per day or, for a slightly larger fee, not to

(emphasis mine) (wins), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:44 (eight years ago) link

yeh i have indulged a couple of times lately but tbh more in hopes of an evening's leisure money than permanent retirement

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:45 (eight years ago) link

both so unlikely they may as well be equally unlikely

(emphasis mine) (wins), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link

that isn't true but

(emphasis mine) (wins), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:49 (eight years ago) link

treu enough tbh

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:50 (eight years ago) link

I like to play every few month even tho I know the chance of winning is zero, try explaining this to science bros tho

(emphasis mine) (wins), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link

I don't check the ticket for ages it's awesome

(emphasis mine) (wins), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:52 (eight years ago) link

saw a decent explanation that said that the potential lifechange of the win makes the slimness of the odds reasonable to us, especially the more abject real life might be

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link

pascalian

drash, Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:56 (eight years ago) link

actually i am alone again today so in theory i cd get hold of some money and go and gently elide the day but on the other hand i've got nice tunes on and the odds of meeting the person who might pull me out of this slough compared to the odds of just being 30 or 40 quid poorer next week don't seem v enticing

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:56 (eight years ago) link

Very (xp)

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:57 (eight years ago) link

saw a decent explanation that said that the potential lifechange of the win makes the slimness of the odds reasonable to us, especially the more abject real life might be

The only time I played regularly was when there was a work syndicate, that's really an odd thing. It's like a protection racket or sth cause suddenly the thing that overrides the logic of you-definitely-won't-win is not the hope that you could but the fear that all your co-workers might

(emphasis mine) (wins), Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link

we play once a month or so at work depending how bad the management zeitgeist is at any given moment

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:11 (eight years ago) link

actually i am alone again today so in theory i cd get hold of some money and go and gently elide the day but on the other hand i've got nice tunes on and the odds of meeting the person who might pull me out of this slough compared to the odds of just being 30 or 40 quid poorer next week don't seem v enticing

I miss the part of today where I just had nice tunes on

gracias for giving an excellent new inflection to the term "pulling" incidentally <3

(emphasis mine) (wins), Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link

entirely unconscious but double apt

i mean there is also the cameraderie of the afternoon drinking crew but there's always that

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:19 (eight years ago) link

even getting invites to go out now ffs

must maintain mantra that money borrowed against leisure is a moebius trip

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 October 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link

used to be one of those sanctimonious "lol tax on the stupid" bores tbh (my mother was a maths teacher, it's how I was brought up) but then realised that when the chance of buying your way to something better by the "traditional" route seems just as one-in-fortywhatever-million unlikely you may as well dabble. not sure I've ever actually won anything though, maybe the lowest scratchcard prize once

feeling p. autumnal this evening and not in the good way (there is a good way, I felt it on the walk home last week) but in the it's got dark at teatime and I feel sick and jittery and I've wasted my life kind of way. starting drinking as soon as my driving lesson ended mid-afternoon poss a bad idea

eh angst over, time to find those nice tunes or just give up, go to bed and try to get up early for more daylight tomorrow

NB I never get up early but won't let that get in the way of good intentions

a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 10 October 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

feeling p. autumnal this evening and not in the good way (there is a good way, I felt it on the walk home last week) but in the it's got dark at teatime and I feel sick and jittery and I've wasted my life kind of way.

I get this every year really bad.

kinder, Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

spent 10 mins in a proper pub tonight, just seconds away from my house but felt like another universe, going outside in October evening felt and smelt really strange, kind of nice. I have not properly been in a proper pub since my old life (pre-baby).

kinder, Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link

Imagine a scenario whereby every young
person in England thinks about routes to
success from an early age in the knowledge
that they are continuously gaining some
form of relevant experience and exposure to
working life. Also, imagine what it might feel
like to know that you will be given careers
and employability support from a wide
range of sources — maybe some beyond your
wildest dreams.
People who inspire you, places that
invigorate and motivate you to connect
your day-today learning to future work
possibilities, projects that stretch and
challenge you to achieve more. Finally, think
about what success would look like when it
comes to a ‘careers offer’ for all young people
in our cities and towns across England?

http://ash.notearthday.org/images/n2x.jpg

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 October 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link

what's going on nv?

clouds, Friday, 16 October 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

just keep coming across deathly depressing "how can we funnel children into a life of drudgery most efficiently?" propaganda this week

Vaz Coombes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 October 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

steady background anxiety: check
fortnight's worth of casual suicidal ideation: check
restlessness that stops me settling to any reading or other project: check
dunno if this is winter, poverty or loneliness or if those are 3 faces of the same hulking fact of life

i can deal with all this but can't help wanting to do more than just always be dealing

systems drinking (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 October 2015 06:31 (eight years ago) link

Trying to transform into a pair of ragged claws scuttling etc

systems drinking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2015 12:11 (eight years ago) link

Idk nv but your job seems like poison just from your posts. I feel like you just get some of the holes patched in your outlook and then work brings you back to somewhere you don't to be. And yet, dire povery = ALSO a place you/no one wants to be, so I do see the difficulty there, believe me. But, like, I often feel like the root of the problem is not you or your past or your choices or whatever you are counting as your not-successes, it's the demand for emotional labor & fronting like you believe in the cause at your workplace.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 29 October 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link

Thx io. I feel like inasmuch as my job hurts it's the hurts of working under Capital. The day to day and the people I work for are pretty inspirational for me. But here we are in a system that turns all relationships to money/shit. The abiding sadness I moan about on here is...some poison of my own, I guess

systems drinking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

a further point: i have been a monster. everything from now on forward is fully earned payback.

systems drinking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 October 2015 00:24 (eight years ago) link

they are and have been monsters in the world and you are not one of them - p much regardless of circumstances that's the case. if you're anything like anyone else you will have made some poor decisions, sometimes small ones, sometimes big ones, and have been selfish or lazy, and alienated people you shouldn't have alienated, or not made effort where effort should have been made. none of that makes you a monster though. in fact having a low opinion of yourself is, in my experience, the surest possible way of continuing to make poor decisions. again, in my experience, having a low opinion of yourself also creates an underlying impression that bad things should happen to you, and that other people also have a (justifiably) low opinion of you, and therefore the less you're in their lives, or the lower profile you keep the better. and anyway even when you're in their company it's nothing special for them, even if it is for you.

all of that is very unlikely to be the case. people who you are close to, sometimes even those you are not, will almost certainly want you in their lives, but not as someone who has a low opinion of themselves, but someone who looks after themselves much as you might look after something important and precious to you, like a valuable heirloom or even a bike. That is, something to be maintained, kept in good working order, to be looked after. For me, perhaps because I'm English or because I'm a type, it can take an effort to remember to value myself and realise that my presence in other people's lives is or can be valuable to them, and therefore I should make the effort to seek them out and also to look after myself and ensure I do things that are good for me. I did terribly at this this year. I lost relationships as a consequence of not valuing my part in them, and my interior life became moribund as a consequence of too much focus on work and not enough effort ouside work, but that only serves to remind me to redouble the effort.

That said my bike's in a bit of a state too.

Fizzles, Friday, 30 October 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link

thx:) never knowingly undermelodramatic

systems drinking (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 October 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link

thank you for that post fizzles

mattresslessness, Friday, 30 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

yes thank you

clouds, Friday, 30 October 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

i am about to go into my university's tuition collection office to discuss how the hell i'm going to pay them $7000+ and whether i'll even be able to register for classes next quarter, so that was v good to read

clouds, Friday, 30 October 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

gl clouds

fizzles https://iamlinah.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/big-tick.jpg

Tell The BTLs to Fuck Off (wins), Friday, 30 October 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

yes, good luck clouds. and glad the post went down well. never hurts to renew these sorts of positive thoughts even if they're hard to maintain i guess.

Fizzles, Friday, 30 October 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

fizzles u are exemplary imo

so many friends visiting whom i haven't seen in years and wanting to do things when my heart's desire is to not see another living soul

clouds, Sunday, 1 November 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

5.00pm Promise self I won't lash back if my dad starts up with traditional spiteful criticism of my parenting and all-round personality

7.20pm Lash back when he starts up

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

systems drinking (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

what is the world/my brain coming to that I am even feeling this feeling at the start of the weekend?

(work-related angst excised bcz hey, Friday evening, put all work thoughts out of the mind. going to buy some fruit & veg, mostly to get out of the flat for 20 minutes but also I've just realised how crisps/Coke/vodka-centric my diet has been lately)

love your post Fizzles. hope other Blue Saturdayers are well.

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 27 November 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

I just got my shoes on and torrential rain started out of nowhere

more vodka and Coke instead then

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 27 November 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link

i got faggots and sprouts and Oblivion and that'll do i guess, this feels like a sentence i cd've written with several different signifiers

vodka and coke trumps torrential rain def yes

Noodle Vape (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

's funny i was going to post earlier because at the end of work the sky was an astonishing sunset blue fading out into whiteness before it started to darken at the horizons and there was a kind of low key ecstatic peace

Noodle Vape (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

I talk to God but the sky is empty.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 28 November 2015 03:55 (eight years ago) link

I still feel Sundays have their own qualitatively different order of gloominess ("Sombre Dimanche"), which is of a higher order than Saturday - especially in winter months.

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Sunday, 29 November 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

Sundays are the worst, sure.

the Saturday i sat down to write this was a very subjective blueness at the time.

Noodle Vape (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

and now I sounds too blue to fly

Noodle Vape (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 09:16 (eight years ago) link

bad shoe cripplefeet, shambly Smiley demeanour, anonymosity writ small, a perfect little background filler removable from the scene at any point now, waaaay out in the steppe, wineskin-empty

Noodle Vape (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 09:19 (eight years ago) link

You're lucky, these auditors have me front and centre and seem to find me absolutely fascinating

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 11:27 (eight years ago) link

one day we shall all be called to account

Sancho Panzer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 11:33 (eight years ago) link

I was rather hoping it wouldn't happen until I'd finished probation yknow

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link

"Under the sword lifted high, There is hell making you tremble. But go ahead, And you have the land of bliss....." Zen Wednesday

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 13:03 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

not really humblebraggin', maybe, but why when people say nice things about me is that hard to hear, almost a gut-kick, and why do i wanna instantly spin it into "but i am terrible in all these other ways"?

djfartin (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 December 2015 10:22 (eight years ago) link

it's a small sort of pleasant relief to know ur not burdensome to society even if u don't particularly respect its judgement and thus feel more isolated from it imo

r|t|c, Saturday, 19 December 2015 10:56 (eight years ago) link

Not really bitter, but in a weird place and feeling conflicted, but:

At least people say nice things about you, regardless of what you choose to do with them.

I was having a hard time the other day, and it was around your birthday, NV, so I thought "hey, you know, I used to have a birthday thread back in the early days of ILX, maybe if I go back and read people being friendly to me, that will cheer me up." So I searched for my birthday thread. And it turned out that it had been locked. Because during one of my extended absences, one person revived it to say "where is branwell?" which prompted a whole slew of people to come on my damn *birthday* thread, and start clusterfucking about me - in my absence - to the point where the thread was actually locked.

So no nice things for me.

Does that make me angry? Well, of course. But 2 years of therapy has taught me other things to do with anger, to turn my version of humour on the things making me angry, how to not-respond, how to walk away and just let the anger go. I was in seriously not-a-good-place when those clusterfucks were happening, and people, instead of accepting that I was not-in-a-good-place genuinely thought clusterfucking was the way to go. I guess it seemed like a good idea to them at the time.

But there is, at the moment, a guy tearing round ILX, who is very obviously not-in-a-good-place, venting his mental illness, and being drunk and out of control and super-aggro in ways that look unfortunately very familiar to me. And watching how people respond to him, with genuine attempts at compassion and understanding and, well... coddling. It makes me feel ... Well. It makes me feel. I'd like to take a positive view, and think that ILX has maybe changed and become kinder and more understanding of mental health issues? But it's really hard to take that point of view. I remember how *I* was treated, when I was in that not-a-good-place (and how I am still treated, in some corners) - and I can't help but compare how ILX treats this guy, to how they treated Marissa - who was also venting mental illness and out of control and kinda aggro in a lot of the same ways - with bullying and banning-on-sight.

So I really don't know what to tell you about your "people say nice things about me and I don't know how to take it." I am sorry if that sounds aggro or self-pitying or whatever else other people are going to project onto me for saying this. If you think I'm an asshole for saying this, then fine. I'm an asshole. Yup. (Who cares what a cartoon thinks!)

People say nice things about you, and you don't know how to take it. But really, think about what the alternatives are. Would you honestly prefer to have people routinely saying awful and terrible things to and about you, and you to have to train yourself to say "but I am actually OK in all these other ways"?

(I have second thoughts about this post already, but it's too overt aggressive even for the other thread.)

Toot Your Hütter On Pollution Now! (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 19 December 2015 10:58 (eight years ago) link

i don't think you're an asshole Branwell. and i'm really sorry about all of that shit that you've described and for any part i might've ever played in it.

cart and spork (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 December 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link

NV yr too hard on yrself and possibly on the world and yr one of the greats imo and if that makes you either squirm or just think of ways to discount the sentiment or the source of it then eh don't care really man tough.

darraghmac, Saturday, 19 December 2015 11:22 (eight years ago) link

i'm not bemoaning my fate tbh, it was more a sudden revelatory glimpse i got last night about how uncomfortable i get in a situation and what wrong-headedness i probly still need to work on so's i can just listen to other people's feelings and accept them at face

cart and spork (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 December 2015 11:24 (eight years ago) link

i don't take compliments well either. i like to think of ways i can flip it and compliment the other person as 'revenge.' i'd rather get to that place in a conversation where you're both comfortable and just talking about whatever.

COOMBES (mattresslessness), Saturday, 19 December 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

god you know what gives me the major anxiety is 'group' conversations where you're all in a sort-of-circle and there are various little alliances and you have no fucking idea what to say ever.

COOMBES (mattresslessness), Saturday, 19 December 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

i guess a lot of us are taught that big-headedness is a bad trait and that's part of training yourself not to take credit for things or to feel comfortable hearing other people's estimation of yr value. on the other hand i guess these things will definitely happen when you've had a few drinks, and i guess self-criticism is also sometimes a form of narcissism maybe

cart and spork (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 December 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

it is. not taking a compliment and moving on is a form of big-headedness imo. the issue isn't whether or not you truly deserve it, it's that the other person is making the observation.

COOMBES (mattresslessness), Saturday, 19 December 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

i do thank people in the end and accept it in that sense, but the kick in the gut says something like "you'll prove them wrong and let them down somehow, eventually"

cart and spork (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 December 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

Yeah there's that but idk you have to value/trust at least some of these ppl and then acknowledge anyway the ?vanity? in always thinking you know better from a position of solipsism or w/e

darraghmac, Saturday, 19 December 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link

right, the 'history' part of it, i mean i think it's ok to be sad about it but it's there to be proven wrong imo, or however you want to make a space for alternative outcomes.

COOMBES (mattresslessness), Saturday, 19 December 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

the 'kick', i think i know what you're talking about. ok to feel that way.

COOMBES (mattresslessness), Saturday, 19 December 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i shd've called this thread "all is vanity" :D

cart and spork (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 December 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link

it's easy to take compliments v personally, but they probably tell you more about the complimentor than complimentee ime. compliments are chill though, it means there is or was some goodness in the world

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 19 December 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link

I would like to issue one (1) compliment to all blue saturdayers

Über, Über mensch (wins), Saturday, 19 December 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link

Gwan so

darraghmac, Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

http://www.outofeden.co.uk/prodimg/4150_1_Zoom.jpg

cart and spork (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

are "left-handed compliments" derogatory of left-handed people?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 19 December 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

The correct term is 'back-handed compliment'.

voodoo rage (suzy), Saturday, 19 December 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

The root of my "hate getting complimented" thing was partially rooted in "I don't deserve happiness"

lute bro (brimstead), Saturday, 19 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Get up in the night and wobble my way tiptoe thru the lacustrine waste and slime of the park, come home in the night but not home, straight to Haworth to wrap up in alcohole and group therapy what's missing, absent fathers, absent minds, fear of failing my own childers in ways material and paternal, up again in darkness, back to the bus thru more wet ooze, stab of reality that hand-me-dwn money is no legacy, chokey tight cig-throat and aboulia rising always. Struggling.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 08:23 (eight years ago) link

don't really know what to say but companionable hugs to you nv

seb mooczag (NickB), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 10:54 (eight years ago) link

Thanks. Just January plus biological obsolescence I guess

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 11:55 (eight years ago) link

No chance at all its just January man?

The difficult earlier reichs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 14:21 (eight years ago) link

it might be a cliche but someone who worries about being a good father as much as you could never be a bad father imo/ime

clouds, Thursday, 7 January 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

speaking as someone whose father really didn't give a fuck

clouds, Thursday, 7 January 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

thank you. i know i project too much - i worry about some disconnection with my kids that mirrors my disconnection my parents, but where there's a problem with communication the two things are totally different really, i know.

there's something unsettling (to me) about looking at pictures of my children, younger. they're people who've gone, even tho that going is necessary and inevitable and the only route to whatever being alive really is. winter is like 2 in the morning, every look back is thru a false sense of "could've done things better". but i know it won't always be winter and it isn't always 2 in the morning and the only real mistake is to fixate on the decisions i've already made.

something has always been inside me that desperately wants to connect somehow with other people and can't quite, and on bad nights i guess my children feel like the closest can't quite of all

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 7 January 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

<3 NV

desperately wants to connect somehow with other people and can't quite

oh I know that feeling well, so the rest of that sentence is like a truth bomb from another reality for someone who sometimes regrets not having kids (99.9% too late now). I must note that when I see photos of you + kids on ILX there seems to be a real warmth and connection there in the pic tho

anyway take care of yourself

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 7 January 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

clouds otm, and also lots of <3 for u nv

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 January 2016 01:48 (eight years ago) link

There have certainly been periods of more bitter distress and of even more harsh destitution, more unbridled atrocities and infinitely more conspicuous cruelty; there never was any so coldly, widely and radically dangerous.

While social ferocity has always existed, it had imperative limits, because labour resulting from human lives was indispensable to those who held power. It is not any more. Instead, it has become a burden and those boundaries are collapsing. Do we fully understand what that means? Never has humanity as a whole been so threatened in its very survival.

Whatever the history of barbarism over the centuries, human beings until now were always given a guarantee: they were essential to the function of the planet as well as to productivity, and to the exploitation of the instruments of profit - of which they themselves were part. So many elements that protected them.

For the first time, the mass of humanity is no longer materially and even less economically necessary to the small number holding power, and for whom human lives outside their private circle have nothing to recommend them, even have no existence - it is more obvious every day - but as utilitarian assets.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 11:19 (eight years ago) link

Radios? Fine. Syphilis? If you like. Photography? I don’t see any reason why not. The cinema? Three cheers for darkened rooms. War? Gave us a good laugh. The telephone? Hello. Youth? Charming white hair. Try to make me say thank you: "Thank you." Thank you.

Whoo I think for a while here I got real lost in midwinter darker than blue. Forget that noise.

Chikan wa akan de. Zettai akan de. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link

Some people really get off on petty oppressions, like how can they feel good unless there's hierarchies to hold them up?

Chikan wa akan de. Zettai akan de. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 12:14 (eight years ago) link

Vice-President Bastard - A slice of raw Bermondsey thug life from this 17 year-old MC who describes his sound as "nu-post-post-post-Grime". Packing raw tales of drug deals gone bad and Green Street 2 torrents that cut out at 97 percent, look to Bastard for tabloid provocation and uncompromising controversy once he's finished his BTEC ND in Music Technology come June.

― Shanty! Shanti! Shanté! (Noodle Vague), Monday, January 3, 2011 6:56 PM (5 years ago)

maybe even a little depressive (brony!) (nakhchivan), Monday, 8 February 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link

That 17-year-old was Genie Boy, the Right Honorable Member for The Endz.

2015 was a big one for Genie. He began the year enrolled at Wolverhampton College and ended it on the front cover of Esquire. Having refused several record deals, he continues to manage himself, handling all his own emails and train bookings. He is perhaps the only man who could work with both Preditah and Paul McCartney (at their internet-breaking Brits collab) and come out with his road-credibility intact.

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-vice-hot-list-2016

maybe even a little depressive (brony!) (nakhchivan), Monday, 8 February 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link

i can't die because i have dependents but on the other hand if the abyss wants to intrude into my living room and Belial's knuckly talons drag me into the pit before i have to face another monday i'm unequipped to deal with that would be OK too

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 February 2016 09:38 (eight years ago) link

saw that lech walesa on the telly this week and briefly thought of u

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:05 (eight years ago) link

even tho i am still sometimes drinking i have never gone back to the destroyed mind of 4 years back. i think i wd like to stop even the last remnants of boozetude but i need to go out of the house and be with people more often than i used to think i did

the one thing missing and killing me for its absence is the kind of intimacy you only have with a lover

and this bathetic mewling have-you-got-20p-for-the-bus? hack livejournal is my shoddy substitute for same

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:26 (eight years ago) link

god the resemblance to Lech is uncanny

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link

maybe i shd move east

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:28 (eight years ago) link

Poland not the best place for engaging a life of sobriety maybe

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:28 (eight years ago) link

Lechalike

Soon all logins will look like this (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:38 (eight years ago) link

http://www.relatably.com/q/img/lech-walesa-quotes/2006-02-03_J_17.jpg

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:44 (eight years ago) link

"and then whilst shrooming my tits off i came up with the idea for Solidarity"

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 February 2016 10:46 (eight years ago) link

O Lechy Man!

sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

He actually was a "lechy" by trade in the 70's, he looks like he has pulled a few steel wired armoureds in his time!

calzino, Monday, 22 February 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

hmmmm do i want to be in a Spencer Tunick picture i ask myself

disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 11:49 (eight years ago) link

Could kick off a new WDYLL theme ?

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link

think i'd have less qualms on doing it here than in public

disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 12:36 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Hiding under some coats and hoping everything works out somehow

dat login (wins), Friday, 6 May 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

This is bad, quite quite bad, but in practice involves being Barney J Biergarten and listening to avoid house B-)

dat login (wins), Friday, 6 May 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

jajaja ACID house but that is a very good Freudian autocorrect

dat login (wins), Friday, 6 May 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

I haven't done it years, it can certainly put you through some reet psychological squeezes and ting. Hold in there wins and eat some oranges!

calzino, Friday, 6 May 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTWsHSN7Qls

Uploaded on 4 May 2011

모든 음악이 그렇듯 재즈도 역시 두 가지 중에 하나입니다. 빠르거나 느리거나, 혹은 시끄럽거나 조용하거나... 공연장의 열기를 몸으로 경험하는 음악은 당연 전자이고, 혼자 일의 지루함을 덜기 위한 혹은 집중을 돕기위한 BGM 그리고 잠들기 위한 (성인을 위한) 자장가는 후자 쪽에 손이 갑니다.
깊어가는 밤을 돕기위한 후자쪽 Jazz에서 Kenny Dorham만큼 적합한 연주자는 없을 것입니다.. [Quiet Kenny]라는 앨범이름처럼 트랙들은 어떤 곡도 분수를 알고 차고 넘치지 않습니다. 그러나 아주 기뻐하지도, 지나치게 환호하지도 않는 담담하고 조심스러운 그의 연주는 Minimal하고 Bluzzy한 의미에서 보면 Jazz의 본질을 겨냥하고 있는지도 모르겠습니다.
트럼펫의 원소리는 금관악기의 재료가 그러듯 견고하고 강렬합니다. 그러나 이 앨범에서의 Kenny의 트럼펫을 그렇지 않습니다. 감당키 어려울 만큼 광채나는 바로크 트럼펫과는 달리 어둠을 뚫고 일어나는 희미한 푸른 불꽃처럼, 온기가 있고 억제된 정열이 있으며 땀냄새가 납니다. 오늘은 이 앨범 중 3번트랙 Blue Friday를 들어보겠습니다.

Erediauwa (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 May 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link

this is nice :)
better than radiohead
not sure about globalisation but probably as good as that

Erediauwa (nakhchivan), Friday, 6 May 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link

It is wonderful is that and of the type of about 90% of my listening these days

calzino, Friday, 6 May 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link

Agreed

I haven't taken acid btw if that's what your other post refers to!

dat login (wins), Friday, 6 May 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link

oh right sorry, it sounded like classic bad trip talk. I'll stfu before I dig myself in any deeper.

calzino, Friday, 6 May 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I reread my posts after you said that and saw how you could read it that way

The coat thing is a Simpsons reference cause that's how cool I am

dat login (wins), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

you should still eat some oranges though

nakhchivan, Friday, 6 May 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-eWXmYZQ5E

nakhchivan, Friday, 6 May 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

blood orange?

dat login (wins), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link

blood oranges are unethical innit?

some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

everything works out...somehow

some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnu-WUJw0uY

nakhchivan, Friday, 6 May 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link

bloodclaat oranjes

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Friday, 6 May 2016 23:00 (eight years ago) link

Hi wins sorry 2 read of hepactic or other miseries obv

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Friday, 6 May 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link

Got those fat, shit, jittery fraud of a human being blues

Nice ref

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 11:42 (eight years ago) link

http://collections.stanford.edu/images/bin/detail?cid=00015657&fn=1

blauw savery

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 May 2016 00:00 (eight years ago) link

So blue I could

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 26 May 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link

Surrounded by my d(e)ut(s)ch atavars

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 26 May 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link

Interminable public house front groaned liver mit libidinous allthoughts.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 26 May 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link

Could do so much better than apologizing to square pegs for the prevalence of round holes

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 26 May 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link

don't drink and Finnegans Wake kids.

eh, maybe just don't drink.

maybe just don't never anything.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 27 May 2016 07:39 (eight years ago) link

Id like to say something about why Love is so important to SVP and physics in general (not to forget our own lives). So many engineers and scientists Ive met have been needlessly turned off by our use of this four letter word - Love. They need not be repulsed as Love is more or less the same force orthodoxy calls the "strong force" with the main exception that this force is not restricted to nuclear realms as is commonly thought.

The whole concept is wrapped around the Law of Assimilation which is simplistically stated as:

MacVicar writes: "Every individualized object assimilates itself to itself in successive moments of its existence and all objects tend to assimilate one another." Keely and His Discoveries

In modern parlance this "assimilation" is what weve been calling "mutual attraction". Russell refers to it as simply attraction and/or gravitation. He uses many other synonyms such as "electricity" or "electrical attraction" of the electrical stream and "assimilative force". In short everything assimilates (is attracted to) everything else. In view of Bjerknes Effect this coming together in harmony was clearly illustrated. All objects in nature have this characteristic. They come together when their frequencies form unisons or harmonics of unison. Hence atoms and molecules are held together by mutual assimilation (Love) and societies are held together by the same naturally occuring dynamic. Love, then, as assimilation CREATES the physical universe and holds it together.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 27 May 2016 08:36 (eight years ago) link

In their common perusal of books, singling out the errors and defects, the nauseous, the fulsome, the dull, and the impertinent, with the caution of a man that walks through Edinburgh streets in a morning, who is indeed as careful as he can to watch diligently and spy out the filth in his way; not that he is curious to observe the colour and complexion of the ordure or take its dimensions, much less to be paddling in or tasting it, but only with a design to come out as cleanly as he may.

http://podcastunlimited.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ernie.png

Noodle Vague, Friday, 27 May 2016 08:38 (eight years ago) link

Then Imperial Prince Oasazumawakugo no Sukune declined, saying, “By some misfortune, I was long sick, and am unable to walk. Previously I had wanted to cure the illness, and without saying anything to the emperor secretly mutilated myself to cure the illness, but still it did not change. Therefore the previous Emperor reprimanded me, saying, ‘Because you were sick you mutilated yourself, and there is nothing greater than this. In the long life you live, you will never be able to succeed to the great endeavor.’ Therefore my two older brothers, as Emperors, thought me foolish and treated my lightly, and all of this the myriad ministers knew. Now, the realm is like a great vessel, and the imperial throne a great task. He should be the father and mother of the people, this is the occupation of a sage and wise man, how can a low fool take up this post? Therefore choose a clever prince and set him up, for how can I dare to do this?”

http://www.crystalinks.com/oakisland.jpg

Noodle Vague, Friday, 27 May 2016 08:44 (eight years ago) link

Then you come shyly through the garden gate,
Wearing a blood-soaked bandage on your head;
And God says something kind because you’re dead,
And homesick, discontented with your fate.

http://www.1715fleetsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Numismatist-Legacy-of-the-1715-Plate-Fleet-4.jpg

Noodle Vague, Friday, 27 May 2016 08:52 (eight years ago) link

ASPIRING TO SUPPORT THE VISITOR ECONOMY

in the heart of the Hibernian metropolis

The Brexit Club (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:22 (seven years ago) link

western values so reified you have to struggle through them every day like lead bead curtains. English language now indistinguishable from advertising. ball, kick, street.

The Brexit Club (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:43 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

doing a CSI on Saturday night, found a receipt for a kebab but there is no kebab, outside my front door there are minute traces of onion and doner meat tho, the mystery continues

also i swear i used to have glasses

Inglan is a Bitch (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link

read an old nakh post upthread and now i want oranges

but i am too scarred and unsightly to make the walk to Tesco Express tbh

Inglan is a Bitch (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

<3 man

EU don't negotiate with errorists (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

Hang in there NV <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 26 June 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

thanks guys, but y'know, i'm an idiot. keep repeating the same dumb shit that's fucked me and a bunch of other people over all my life. important to remember that and try to do something about it.

Inglan is a Bitch (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

join the club. then leave it

oh, amazonaws (wins), Sunday, 26 June 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link

Dregsit

EU don't negotiate with errorists (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link

i know! i really wanted to do it, but self-hatred won out.

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 July 2016 10:42 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I chickened out too, semi-regretting it now.

thomasintrouble, Saturday, 9 July 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link

wet grey summer's day. video games or drinking. drink for company, no matter how high the cost, since drinking has left me with so little other company. circle of "life".

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 July 2016 09:36 (seven years ago) link

reviews list of "self-care tips for depression", rolls eyes, too much effort

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link

even my planned structural analysis of where I am and where I want to be is just too much pfaff

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link

to the untrained eye not being able to focus or settle on anything looks a lot like being bone idle

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:16 (seven years ago) link

can't tell if I've got a pantheon of internal voices or just one bad impressionist doing silly accents

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link

the sky is pleasingly blue/black this morning, can't decide whether to storm or swelter, one tone shading into another

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:18 (seven years ago) link

there's just no point of engaging medical support, that conversation is played and futile

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:26 (seven years ago) link

edit pfaff

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 11:43 (seven years ago) link

I liked pfaff as pfaff

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 11:53 (seven years ago) link

the p lends it exasperation

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 11:54 (seven years ago) link

Regrette

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 11:56 (seven years ago) link

sorry for indie (I have linkified rather than embedding this Pfaff-related video as it may not be up to the usual Blue Saturday musical standard but hey I used to love these guys)

to the untrained eye not being able to focus or settle on anything looks a lot like being bone idle

and the eye of the faffer is not necessarily trained; I would quite like some kind of objective test for "am I just being lazy or is there too much brain-interference to get things done" because I genuinely don't know if I'm being too easy or too hard on myself

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 12:44 (seven years ago) link

I know, I know - or even "too hard on myself but in ways that excuse me for going easy on myself"

also this is a play whatever music you like space because I don't do "taste"

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 12:49 (seven years ago) link

also weren't Quickspace more LJ-Prog than indie trundlers?

PLPeni (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link

def over to the Stereolab/post-rock end of the axis yes, indie in the fanzines and badges and 7"s sense rather than... whatever it means now

I am not v good with shifting genre goalposts, I spent the eurotrance explosion of the mid/late 90s wondering what had happened to the Trance Europe Express vibe (nothing much, it just got reclassified into other genres)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link

I think maybe I've been so frightened of feelings I've spent my life lotus-eating to try and avoid them

Guangchang, thank you man (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 July 2016 11:52 (seven years ago) link

If only our brothers from West Punjab realize that their heroes are not these plunderers but their own ancestors who faced up to these "Jehadi" conquerors known in Islamic terms as "Gazis". Here are some of the brave Punjabi ancestors who gave befitting response to the ambitions of invaders:

Raja Porus - the Khatri king of West Punjab who almost defeated Alexender the Great and forced Greeks in to retreat out of Punjab.
Jasrat Khokhar - the chief of the Khokhar Rajput clan from West Punjab who led the reply to the Turkic Barbarian Tamerlane.
Raja Jaypala - Ruler of Janjua rajput clan from Lahore who responded to the plundering invasions of Gazanvi and committed suicide after losing in battle.
Raja Anangpal - Son of Jayapala and Janjua king of Punjab who fought all his life against numerous incursions by Gaznavi, and died at the battle of Sirhind
Prithviraj Chauhan - Rajput ruler of Bhatinda who defeated Ghori six times but lost the seventh battle
Dulla Bhatti - Legendary warrior of Bhatti Rajput clan fom Sandal-Bar who fought against the Mughals of Lahore.
Sardar Jassa Singh Ahluwalia - Leader of Sikh Misls who rescued 20,000 Punjabi women from Abdali's goons.
Maharaja Ranjit Singh - Sikh Emperor of Punjab who ended the series of invasion of Punjab forever and ruled Lahore on behalf of all Punjabis.
Sardar Hari Singh Nalwa - Sikh warrior of Uppal Khatri clan who plugged the Khyber pass where all invasions of Punjab occurred
Sham Singh Atariwale - who fought till death at the battle of Sabhraon against the treacherous East India Company.

Guangchang, thank you man (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2016 08:56 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

you can't go because who comes in and finds you
you can't go because you feel for who finds you
you can't go
i can see my friends but not who they were when somebody found them
blue bloated
can't go because who finds me but i can't stay h-h-h-h-ere

Herodotus Reading (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2016 05:04 (seven years ago) link

achers of grey spotty flesch

Herodotus Reading (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2016 05:26 (seven years ago) link

parents/gparents not doing well and my coping skills vanish. so it's fireball and nikki sudden round these parts tonight.

brimstead, Saturday, 20 August 2016 05:51 (seven years ago) link

leaving god alone

brimstead, Saturday, 20 August 2016 05:53 (seven years ago) link

friday night (u.s. blue saturday) is now apparently the night when gloom descends on me and i fritter the hours away being anxious about being of no use or interest to anyone

i would rather write

j., Saturday, 20 August 2016 06:47 (seven years ago) link

i appear to have been conducting a scientific experiment to prove i can't afford to drink myself to death

i really like you guys, i don't wish the blues on youse, i shd try and apply the same logic to myself

Herodotus Reading (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 August 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link

we wish the opposite of the blues on you

j., Saturday, 20 August 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

The world makes so little sense that it only makes sense to make no sense right along with it

calstars, Monday, 22 August 2016 00:55 (seven years ago) link

hey nv love how you keep the ilxpidistra flying on saturday mornings

just checking to see how the barometer's reading

imago, Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:31 (seven years ago) link

i could do with irresponsible money but today feels quite good; have got thru the back to work terrors and now its a long weekend and if only i could afford to spend it in the pub watching sport all would be good, but not being in the pub is probably the better idea really

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:43 (seven years ago) link

even tho i bought and lost a lottery ticket which really is like fate giving you the two fingers

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:44 (seven years ago) link

aw haha

not being in the pub, streaming sport imo

also, am considering doing some (long-overdue) gardening* with tt tomorrow - you got a plot or anything to poddle around in?

*the other option is buying a cheap badminton set and playing buddleia badminton

imago, Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:46 (seven years ago) link

nah i literally have a 1 yard wide strip of decking leading to the back gate

i'm a v lazy gardener so not complaining

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:49 (seven years ago) link

mid terrace, c. 1900s i'd guess

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:50 (seven years ago) link

it's gone v overcast already

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:50 (seven years ago) link

i'm hoping it pisses down tbh, could do with my cricket match cancelled so i can watch us lose to bolton

i'm a non-gardener too and i love the frenzied naturalisation of our garden, but unfortunately my landlord's flat inspector doesn't

imago, Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:53 (seven years ago) link

i know, my last place had obviously been unoccupied for a few months, i spent half my time there fighting a frenzied guerilla war with nettles in the front patch

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:55 (seven years ago) link

it's the forget-me-nots that surprise me. they're like locusts

imago, Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:57 (seven years ago) link

k i think the pissing down has begun here

i got one kid at Leeds Festival and one in a caravan in Whitley Bay and here i am watching it piss down thru the back window on the last bank holiday of the summer

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link

idk, stick the cricket on :)

imago, Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:02 (seven years ago) link

also i'm planning on making my own julian cope best-of at some point in the next few days, maybe you could do a similar project with some decent musician

imago, Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:03 (seven years ago) link

spurs pool in half an hour too

imago, Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

it's the Challenge Cup final this afty! really would be best enjoyed in the pub, especially if there's a few Rovers fans in looking for a piss-take. if i stop at home it'll have to be Hudds-Wolves and hope i can find a less crappy stream than last week

i spend inordinate amounts of time cobbling together overlong playlists but usually on a "these things sound good together" basis

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:06 (seven years ago) link

meanwhile David Byrne tries to get in on the action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3TsChDHTQM

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link

challenge cup is the biggest game in uk domestic RL, right

imago, Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:17 (seven years ago) link

yeah, the FA Cup when the FA Cup was still the most important match of the season

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:18 (seven years ago) link

stayed at home, WORTH IT

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 August 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

http://imgur.com/X8sqWLQ
http://imgur.com/aQ74JhX
I need to get my life in order...

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 29 August 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

Also need to learn how to post pictures, fuck it, not important.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 29 August 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

Oh, is it like this?
http://i.imgur.com/X8sqWLQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aQ74JhX.jpg

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 29 August 2016 23:24 (seven years ago) link

Vodka ran out like this minute, let's see how this night goes...

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 29 August 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/sfMv2j3.jpg

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 29 August 2016 23:59 (seven years ago) link

i've got it just about reined in at the moment but god knows how people who are sober all the time live

alls i want to do is pub pub pub

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 September 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link

idk what even i want to do tbh. not a single screaming alternative so much as the car outside inviting me to hop in and drive and be anywhere else but work come tomorrow at 9am

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 September 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

that's the feeling

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 September 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

Pubbin' it up

calstars, Sunday, 11 September 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

cant's unsee that coffee table

rip van wanko, Sunday, 11 September 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

or is it a mixed media collage entitled DEPRESSION #1

rip van wanko, Sunday, 11 September 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

I'm curious about the compasses.

get outta the way! here comes (onimo), Sunday, 11 September 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

Silence Therapeutics is a leading RNA technology company.

We have developed proprietary modifications to improve the robustness of RNA sequences, together with advanced liposomal chemistries to enhance the delivery of therapeutics.

Angry dog barking outside. Should've been asleep hours ago. Everybody loves me at a distance. Car idles. Door. Away.

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

i've got it just about reined in at the moment but god knows how people who are sober all the time live

Not had a drink for a month now, today is the first hard day ... even though was never a daytime drinker I would love a bottle of wine right now.
On the plus side it is the middle of the month and we haven't run out of money which is an unusual but pleasant feeling.

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 15 September 2016 13:17 (seven years ago) link

Yeah there's the rub, think I might've been a millionaire if not for alco-wastrelsy.

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 September 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link

Sometimes I worry that every kind word I offer and every bit of helpfulness and workplace chirpiness and friendly customer service is just some hollow extended schmooze in a dead-souled quest for ingratiation and approval

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

Or alternatively, I don't really believe people when they say nice things about me. Like I really pathologically don't believe them.

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

i've.. started working with an aa sponser.. just a couple meetings. it just doesn't feel right, though. i don't have the obsessive cravings for booze, i just have a tendency to reach for it when bad shit happens. i don't really enjoy it anymore, anyhow, it interferes with my medication and just makes me feel lousy. this all sounds like rationalization but i mean, instinctively the whole thing just doesn't feel right at all.

and i'm just really hesitant to take the crap in this big book seriously, it feels like i'm turning my critical thinking off. it doesn't really describe me that much, except in a horoscope-y way that's more attributable to my lack of self esteem than anything booze related. one "case study" about a guy who had some bad drinking episodes, didn't drink for 50 years and then "succumbed" to alcoholism and died 5 days later... i mean, i don't know what to do with that. seems like it could happen to anybody.

brimstead, Friday, 16 September 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I have big issues with 12 step and it's not the higher power stuff that bothers me, it's the reductiveness of alcoholism as a theory. And in my case too maybe that's partly avoidant but there's bad drinking decisions and positive drinking experiences in life, I find it easier and more helpful to try a case by case approach to drinks - even if I call it wrong more often than not.

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

Special pleading obviously but fuck it pubs are fantastic, I like hanging in them and talking shit to all my friends who also hang in them

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

Love 2 pub, obv

God bless all here

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2016 07:41 (seven years ago) link

Special pleading obviously but fuck it pubs are fantastic, I like hanging in them and talking shit to all my friends who also hang in them

I hear you. I'm probably lucky that the days when I knew lots of people who found pubs fantastic are long gone. Probably.

Bottlerockey (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:22 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

A mash-up of Eliot's "Ash Wednesday" and the lyric of "Sun City" that I can't manage on the phone. The thickest void at the heart of the family, amongst the people who love me unconditionally, wordless, helpless. Nobody left to explain to or to ask for help? Not help maybe. Kontakt.

This quiet diplomacy ain't nothing but a joke.

Took a wrong turn in the taiga. Nothing but a flat empty maze as far as the I can see.

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

Nothing quite like hitting the pub on a Wednesday for a mid week respite

calstars, Thursday, 27 October 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link

AA is creepy and weird, btw.

brimstead, Thursday, 27 October 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

(If it works for you, great, no offense, it just makes me feel even more disconnected from people and life)

brimstead, Thursday, 27 October 2016 03:54 (seven years ago) link

if I could just stay curled up in a ball all the time I think I'd be ok. would probably need a lot of strong benzos or something too

brimstead, Thursday, 27 October 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link

that was a general statement, not related to my valuable AA opinions

brimstead, Thursday, 27 October 2016 04:08 (seven years ago) link

AA feels like the worst kind of cult but I guess everybody chooses the cult that suits them best. Am wholly sober btw. This is the kind of achy void that usually sends me running to the pub but I'm visiting my mom so I can't and tomorrow when I go home i don't really want to - think I need to do the curl up instead, even sans sedatives.

This is all inside me, or absent from inside me, I dunno. I don't know what's missing. I have no idea how to keep putting one foot in front of the other.

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 October 2016 06:49 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

didn't know where to put this but jfc

http://www.poferries.com/en/hull-rotterdam/minicruises/themed-minicruise/shiiine-on-minicruise-amsterdam

The debut event will feature you two headline performances from Peter Hook & the Light. Jim Bob, Dodgy and many more bands /DJ’s will play at this unique event. There will be exhibitions and film screenings across both days. The party will continue on Saturday afternoon with bands and DJ’s in a central Amsterdam venue.

probably as good a fanfare as any to throw yourself into the middle of the north sea to

brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

Freezing to death does seem preferable.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

if it's good enough for me it's good enough for you

kinder, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

Drowning in the North Sea and finally finding release>>>getting cornered at the bar by Jim Bob and Hooky on a P+O ferry.

calzino, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

I wish I was dead, or sober. Or a duck.

Can't even concentrate on a video game any more.

Would like to melt in the rain, run away down the gutter, rejoin the effluent society.

Sleep, cousin, death.

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 December 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link

if you were a duck, i would want you on my team.

sarahell, Friday, 9 December 2016 10:32 (seven years ago) link

^^^^

don't fall through the quacks man

banfred bann (wins), Friday, 9 December 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

'not today

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link

just burned out. one way and another it's been a fucking year. gonna look after myself a little better and be the best damn duck i can be.

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuPEcklPanNqBAAloNGMcFR-iXDTNzsc_uv7lWc-hQ8u-0rXJ7LQ
This mole has always been an inspiration to me, maybe ducks are better role models.

calzino, Friday, 9 December 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

ducks give you total toilet protection.

sarahell, Friday, 9 December 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/euwu7g3.gif

j., Friday, 9 December 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link

mole you sucker! is a shit name for a western

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:38 (seven years ago) link

duckskin notebooks are shit tho tbf

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:43 (seven years ago) link

no theyre not

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:00 (seven years ago) link

quick google doesnt suggest a pun here im sorry. in 2007 we'd have been all over this shit

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link

we don't need quick google to suggest puns -- we have wins.

sarahell, Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:06 (seven years ago) link

we didnt in 2007and im not saying it was better then but goddammit it meant something!

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link

d have you been at the Jameson's?

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link

nope but i am posting from an actual keyboard and it has brought me into a different place

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link

i see, i see

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link

but tell u what its an idea

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link

terrible idea

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link

never mind, that's the remorse talking

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

yeah dont be a sucker

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link

my hangovers are like long drawn out deaths tbh

and everything all god where did the time go and where was i while this was all happening?

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link

a man would start to feel as if his past self owed him better treatment

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:32 (seven years ago) link

dull morbid thrum of fancying a pint since about 10:06am

got offered and subsequently declined free tickets to the panto by real england friends who in their sweet goodly intentions are indistinguishable from sadistic jailers

r|t|c, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link

i find ducks unsettling

r|t|c, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link

dull morbid thrum of fancying a pint since about 10:06am

yeah too many parties or occasions already leaves me just waiting around in the day to go for a drink.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:27 (seven years ago) link

have opted to spend the weekend with Han, probly watch Strictly and Hairspray tonight, tomorrow she's taking me out for lunch apparently, and i'll enter the 49th year of my life without heart palpitations, sweats and the fanged shadow of death perched across my shoulders for a change

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 13:17 (seven years ago) link

irl ducks are horrible bastards who happen to look zenlike tbf compared to their delightful hygiene-promoting cartoon avatars

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link

That sounds like a p sweet weekend to counter teh blue NV

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 10 December 2016 13:31 (seven years ago) link

the fanged shadow of death perched across my shoulders for a change

roxy's next album cover iirc

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Saturday, 10 December 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

'not today

― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:16 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was a duck joke btw

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Monday, 12 December 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link

We decided to plant the explosives on the electricity pylon north of Maltby in order to damage the pylon, disrupt the Supergrid link from the Midlands to the North East, and to show that the system is vulnerable. Your civilization is only fit for Ravachol. And to Ravachol we leave it. Let the monsters you have created devour you. We should have no more use or regard for money in any of its forms than we have for dust.

Wassail Anarchist (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:39 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

that moment - them days - dragging on - when you keep thinking you can't go on living this kind of life, sustaining not much more than a suspended animation, Sisyphus rolling on a flat plain with nothing but flat plain to the horizon on every side

but you're in the real world and seriously how you gonna change it for the better? this is what you get, this is what being middle-aged and working class and without means is, you see it in all your other same-boat pub buddies, the plain is real and it only ends with sudden over-indulgence-related terminal ill health

Treesh-Hurt (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 09:41 (seven years ago) link

fuck, man

kinder, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 13:24 (seven years ago) link

Yes to all that, flat Sisyphus without even the joy of a challenge etc but please tell me somebody got my duck joke even if it was recycled from the duck joke thread

Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link

I've tried googling, I don't get it?

Treesh-Hurt (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 14:17 (seven years ago) link

Biological family of birds that includes ducks geese and swans iirc

Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:52 (seven years ago) link

of course...a stretch tho, and a pronunciation thing maybe

Treesh-Hurt (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link

There a postrophe I ain't shamed

Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

nah it's good it deserved recognition

Treesh-Hurt (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

There's such a thing as over egging it too

Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link

Wow, right now not so bad, but this week has been an absolute doozy. Totally rinsed. WATCHA GONNA DO ON THE JUDGMENT DAY. I think I *will* rock and roll in the same old way in fact. Hang in there everyone.

Fizzles, Saturday, 18 February 2017 14:41 (seven years ago) link

i'm gonna go drink because i have an unfulfillable longing for a kind of romantic attachment that common sense tells me is non-existent beyond fiction and i need to extinguish the pain of hopelessness

OR

i'm gonna go drink because i have an addiction (whatever that is) to intoxicants and it uses "free time" and the illusion of romantic longing to manipulate me into sating it

dun't really matter

Treesh-Hurt (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 February 2017 12:11 (seven years ago) link

or

it's this reality or this society I want out of, the inescapable reality of wage work and surviving thru money transactions and adventureless not-quite-poverty. a machine cycle, machine food, machine distractions, free from real hardship but absent any real life or love or joy. moans of affordable ennui but lovelessness can kill, slow and steady.

just keeping the gears turning in an obsolete machine. I am a gear

Treesh-Hurt (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 10:43 (seven years ago) link

casually weighing up the lorry paused in traffic in front of me at the bus stop, vivid daydream of laying a head under one of those middle wheels then soft strawberry pop squish as it rolls forward

woman in the queue in front of me has the same pink twizzly hair as an anime girl but I don't think that's the intended reference

might die for lack of sleep or lack of love I can't really distinguish the two lately

Sacked Italian Greyhound (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 07:59 (seven years ago) link

Emmalee Bauer of Elkhart worked for the Sheraton Hotel
company in Des Moines until she was fired for using her employer's
computer to keep a journal which recorded all of her efforts
to avoid work. "This typing thing seems to be doing the trick, "
she wrote. " It just looks like I am hard at work on something
very important. "

barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 09:45 (seven years ago) link

Emmalee Bauer I salute your fortitude if this century had a place for saints you would be at the head of them

barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 09:46 (seven years ago) link

April 26. Mother is putting my new secondhand clothes in order. She prays now, she says, that I may learn in my own life and away from home and friends what the heart is and what it feels. Amen. So be it. Welcome, life! To separate labor from other activities of life and to subject it to the laws of the market is to annihilate all organic forms of existence and replace them by a different type of organization, an atomistic and individualistic one. Such a scene of destruction is best served by the application of freedom of contract. In practice this means that the noncontractual organizations of kinship, neighborhood, profession, and creed are to be liquidated since they claim the allegiance of the individual and thus restrain his freedom. To represent this principle as one of noninterference, as economic liberals are wont to do, is merely the expression of an ingrained prejudice in favor of a definite kind of interference. I go to encounter for the millionth time the reality of experience and to forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race, such as will destroy noncontractual relations between individuals and prevent their spontaneous reformation.

barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 09:20 (seven years ago) link

It seems strange to me that Wu assumes that people automatically experience fragmentation as unpleasant. Dividing up one’s attention into smaller and smaller bits is a mode of mastery; it’s precisely the sort of control that remotes afford. And who always wants to get to the end of anything? The end is ultimately death. But while you are channel surfing you never need to die. The remote becomes a panegyric that lets you feel like you will live forever, as long as you can keep clicking.

barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 09:24 (seven years ago) link

the cemented-in Hazels(?) outside my office have been carpeting the pavement with catkins all week, masturbatory waste, clunking symbol of sterility

barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 09:36 (seven years ago) link

god is there any way of making life changes that doesn't involve filling out tedious long self-searching checklists? its enough to make you wrap yourself deeper in yr rut.

Pengest Khan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 11:26 (seven years ago) link

you could always be incredibly reckless

ogmor, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:18 (seven years ago) link

I fear that's what dug the rut in the first place

Pengest Khan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link

why can't I just die already

a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

<3 <3 brims hugs <3

hugs that respect yr personal decisions but hugs anyway because we can't let the innocent smoothie marketing board cheapen all forms of human consolation

Pengest Khan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link

thx nv

this life is ridiculous

maybe 50cent can adopt me or something

a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:21 (seven years ago) link

the discreet charm of lying down on the pavement in the sunshine and going to sleep forever

it's hardy out there for a Vardy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 10:33 (seven years ago) link

when I lived in the suburbs I thought some of the more sumptuous lawns looked very appetising for an ultimate doze

ogmor, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 11:02 (seven years ago) link

However many species of living beings there are - whether born from eggs, from the womb, from moisture, or spontaneously; whether they have form or do not have form; whether they have perceptions or do not have perceptions; or whether it cannot be said of them that they have perceptions or that they do not have perceptions, we must lead all these beings to the ultimate nirvana so that they can be liberated. And when this innumerable, immeasurable, infinite number of beings has become liberated, we do not, in truth, think that a single being has been liberated.

it's hardy out there for a Vardy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 11:14 (seven years ago) link

diamond sutra?

clouds, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 12:18 (seven years ago) link

yes :)

it's hardy out there for a Vardy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 12:20 (seven years ago) link

i love each phrase is unraveled by the next. it's like reading water.

clouds, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 12:48 (seven years ago) link

love how*

clouds, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 12:48 (seven years ago) link

drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

or the only way, I don't know

it's hardy out there for a Vardy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 March 2017 11:04 (seven years ago) link

Google Maps doing a beautiful Greenland spread today

https://www.google.com/streetview/#greenland-highlights/glacial-lake

wish I was here

Django Chutney (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 March 2017 08:27 (seven years ago) link

same

clouds, Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:51 (seven years ago) link

due to algorithms youtube dot com simply will not stop recommending me 'violet' by seal

i listen most times tbh but it's been at least six weeks

idk it seemed the right thread

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 09:37 (seven years ago) link

it's on the spectrum, yeah

Django Chutney (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 09:51 (seven years ago) link

nowadays waking up battered wondering how much money i wasted and where i was yesterday is a very very rare occurence, so i should recognize the progress i've made and not be too hard on myself, but jesus, ouch

Raul Chamgerlain (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 April 2017 12:02 (seven years ago) link

it's so good knowing everything is your fault, alone, away from all sympathy including your own, hating what you're doing and watching it get worse. just sinking, resenting everyone who isn't, running out of patience, waiting for things to get to the point at which you snap and burn your bridges. the more important and essential it is that I do things, the more I feel myself just melt into the air

ogmor, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:53 (seven years ago) link

i hear you

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:57 (seven years ago) link

only I could fuck me up this much

ogmor, Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:05 (seven years ago) link

the chain of decisions that all seemed, if not sensible, then either reasonable or enjoyable at the time, until they add up to jfc what happened?

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:08 (seven years ago) link

at times like this i like to think about shooting horse botherers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNmzc_B2XNI

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:11 (seven years ago) link

just momentarily overwhelmed more than surprised. it's the totally predictable consequence of not being invested in My Life, all my goals were just to get things to a level where i could think about that stuff as little as possible, so its mostly inertia, then making some misguidedly optimistic bad decisions that i hoped might address the underlying malaise and shift me into a better way of being. but no, i've just done a lot of damage, and now i have a lot more work to do from a worse position and some of the time it feels like it's not going to end well. this is all a lot of rubbish and i will feel better later. but sometimes all you can think about is shooting that guy, no matter the consequences

ogmor, Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:30 (seven years ago) link

just been emailed a job ad for a lighthouse keeper on spurn head. felt like this was the one job i was cut out for until i read it and it's mostly about meeting and greeting the public amd not so much being stuck up a tower being idle and desolate all day long :(

jay kay huysmans (NickB), Thursday, 20 April 2017 11:19 (seven years ago) link

Spurn does get cut off in the winter tho

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 11:28 (seven years ago) link

http://www.sixthtone.com/news/lonesome-honor-keeping-lighthouse-legacy-alight

“No people; simple, repetitive work; bad air; and the seawater is not blue,” Ye says, pointing to the smoking chimneys across the water that, when the wind blows a certain way, fill the air with the smell of rotten eggs. “It’s just not what I thought it would be.”

“Lighthouse work is very easy nowadays,” Fan says. “It’s kind of like being retired. It’s just a waste of time for young people.”

Ye and his mother are Christians, and Ye met a woman at church whom he dated for a while, but things didn’t work out between them. “I react slowly; I don’t know how to express my thoughts, and sometimes my thinking is too simple,” he says. His parents and relatives made further attempts at matchmaking, but most women did not look favorably upon his career prospects and salary.

mate. <beats heart with fist emphatically>

Fizzles, Saturday, 22 April 2017 03:51 (seven years ago) link

ah, the end of the holidays and the age-old question arises: work or suicide?

answer never gets any easier

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 April 2017 08:04 (seven years ago) link

would take the lighthouse job in a heartbeat

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 April 2017 08:05 (seven years ago) link

should I spend 90 quid and my entire weekend on a John Grant curated Scando-tweetronica festival, I am v torn

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 April 2017 07:46 (seven years ago) link

https://www.hull2017.co.uk//app/uploads/2017/04/North-Atlantic-Flux-schedule-and-map.pdf

I mean Lindstrøm vs Cobby & Litten is quite aggravating

I wanna rave but I also could go see Toni Erdmann tomorrow, watch Joshua-Klitschko in the pub and eat a lot of pizza all weekend

city of culture biting me hard for the first time this year

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 April 2017 08:01 (seven years ago) link

nah that's a simple choice isn't it? Lindstrom unlikely to ever play Hull again.

North Atlantic Flux looks great but can't justify the cash this month.

thomasintrouble, Friday, 28 April 2017 09:02 (seven years ago) link

the cash is a big part of my reluctance, plus I really have other domestic things I could do rather than a 4 day freakout

my inner completist won't let me just do the 2 days

leaning quite hard towards doing this anyway, I suspect it's undersold because at one time there was supposed to be a third tranche of tickets at £120+ and that's disappeared

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 April 2017 09:06 (seven years ago) link

C&L on earlier on the Saturday afternoon too by the look of it.

sleep and pizza and boxing and video games are good tho.

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 April 2017 09:37 (seven years ago) link

the fact that Gate Number 8 is ten minutes walk from my house is a lure

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 April 2017 09:37 (seven years ago) link

"He bid me lie in green land down"

calstars, Friday, 28 April 2017 11:27 (seven years ago) link

do it nv, you can always take a break later

ogmor, Friday, 28 April 2017 12:34 (seven years ago) link

I cracked a tooth at lunchtime, second time this week, which is giving me pause in case I end up with raging toothache at some point over the weekend.

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 April 2017 13:00 (seven years ago) link

I always forget that much as I love sweet twinkly music I kinda hate gigs

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 April 2017 13:02 (seven years ago) link

I said twinkly

Brexectile dysfunction (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 April 2017 13:02 (seven years ago) link

ambushed by an unexpected dose of the deep blue blues

the sky's beautiful today, beautiful enough to wanna fall off the earth

even when my rut is as clean, cosy and comfortable as it can be, it still looks like a rut

The Real Remoaner (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 07:22 (seven years ago) link

what the world needs now is more books by and for norms who wanna fuck with the language of enlightenment

The Real Remoaner (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 07:41 (seven years ago) link

Satori in a Suit; or How to Increase Your Productivity and Your Karma All At Once. Written in a Light Friendly Humorous Tone So There's Nothing To Be Frightened Of

The Real Remoaner (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 07:43 (seven years ago) link

During this period, it is necessary to reach the target bodyweight and flock uniformity to prepare the birds for the
production period. A special care has also to be given to the development of the digestive tract in order to prepare
for the fast increase in consumption at the beginning of the production period. A well-managed rearing period has
positive effects on:
 Egg production (peak of lay and persistency)
 Egg quality (egg weight, egg uniformity, shell strength)
 Liveability
To achieve those objectives, it is necessary to respect the following basics:
 Management (stocking density, drinker and feeder space, water, temperature, beak trimming…)
 Lighting programme
 Monitoring bodyweight and uniformity
 Nutrition
 Biosecurity and vaccination

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2017 08:57 (seven years ago) link

A very beautiful woman had a husband. He was a very skilful fellow. Once he went to the mountains, and disappeared. But at night he returned, bearing a deer on his back. After feasting on the deer, they went to bed. But in the middle of the night, the woman wept and screamed, saying: "This man is not my husband. Though with shame, I will declare the fact as it is. His penis is so big, so big, so big, that it will not get into my vagina; and if it did get in, I should die."

Alarmed by her cries, the neighbours ran out, and came into her house; and one strong fellow took a stick, and beat the husband, saying: "You must be some sort of devil," whereupon the husband turned into a horse, and ran away neighing. Afterwards he was beaten to death.

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2017 09:00 (seven years ago) link

same

PROFESSOR JIGGLY is loose in the Cat Room (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:02 (seven years ago) link

otm

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:29 (seven years ago) link

you cant do right for doing wrong

spud called maris (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:35 (seven years ago) link

i enjoy the ambiguity in the final sentence as to whether it was big-dicked horse-man who was beaten to death or the strong fellow who called big-dicked horse-man a devil

makes u think

PROFESSOR JIGGLY is loose in the Cat Room (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:42 (seven years ago) link

there was a third paragraph I left out cos it was boring, obviously the Ainu had a deep-seated suspicion of horses

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:44 (seven years ago) link

horses: always trying to fuck your wife

PROFESSOR JIGGLY is loose in the Cat Room (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:45 (seven years ago) link

and in a very real way Jesus is like that

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:47 (seven years ago) link

didnt fall far from tree there tbfttm

spud called maris (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:52 (seven years ago) link

jesus: always trying to fuck your horse

PROFESSOR JIGGLY is loose in the Cat Room (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:52 (seven years ago) link

sometimes my professional life involves a misguided effort to persuade people who don't really want to play this society's game that it's important to play it; whereas what I should be doing is listening and enjoying their company more and reflecting on the important lessons they're teaching me

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:54 (seven years ago) link

i enjoy the ambiguity in the final sentence as to whether it was big-dicked horse-man who was beaten to death or the strong fellow who called big-dicked horse-man a devil

makes u think

― PROFESSOR JIGGLY is loose in the Cat Room (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 May 2017 8:42 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the naysayer or the neighsayer

estela, Thursday, 11 May 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Don't call it a cumback

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

a+ estela

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 May 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

idle things are the devil's playhands

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 08:27 (seven years ago) link

our Joel used to have a green pair of those iirc

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 08:31 (seven years ago) link

they weren't that amusing tbh

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 08:31 (seven years ago) link

but the memory is blurry and possibly false

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 08:32 (seven years ago) link

it's the hole in the one on the kid's left hand that puzzles me, tho tbh i can see some utility in filling it with peanuts or crisps or whatever so snacks are always within easy reach when i can't bring myself to move on the couch

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 09:04 (seven years ago) link

and in a very real way Jesus is like that

― The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:47 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didnt fall far from tree there tbfttm

― spud called maris (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 May 2017 10:52 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

conjunction here reminded me of i think one medieval theory of how apes were so like humans, which was there was a person sitting up a tree while Jesus was doing his Via Dolorosa thing, who jumped out at him as a prank, and Jesus turned him into an ape so he would perpetually live out his knavery, thus creating the race of apes. dick move by jesus, harking back to his infancy gospel of thomas days.

Fizzles, Saturday, 13 May 2017 12:47 (seven years ago) link

well they kept the bit where he cursed the fig tree in the official books, and tried to pass it off as some weak parable

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 May 2017 13:49 (seven years ago) link

Always swing by the Tring tiles if I'm in the British museum.

http://www.britishmuseum.org/collectionimages/AN00031/AN00031633_001_l.jpg

Fizzles, Sunday, 14 May 2017 09:08 (seven years ago) link

getting harder to leave the house by the day

i got past this! i pulled some magic trick that didn't make me want to freak out at watching work suck the life out of me. don't know where that's gone, can't remember how i did it. clarity has been restored.

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 May 2017 06:30 (seven years ago) link

Good vibes homie.

the ghost of markers, Monday, 15 May 2017 06:53 (seven years ago) link

made it out the door for another day of doing half my job - the immediate stuff, the personal interaction stuff, the looking after other people stuff I can do - when that isn't happening and I have to deal with the (metaphorical) piles of admin and record-keeping my brain just rebels, goes too custardy thick to know where to start, can't get motivated - I guess there's a glass half full side to this

I'm not even sad, just two dimensions shifted to the side of the one I'm in - wishing I could be an observing ghost, one of my long-term daydreams, an Oscar Wilde fairy tale phantom short of omniscience but incapable of touching what I'm watching. warmly pleasant dream of evaporation.

thanks co-ghost :)

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 May 2017 07:22 (seven years ago) link

file under one of the thread subtitles: "the quiet joy of navel-gazing"

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 May 2017 07:33 (seven years ago) link

wishing I could be an observing ghost, one of my long-term daydreams, an Oscar Wilde fairy tale phantom short of omniscience but incapable of touching what I'm watching. warmly pleasant dream of evaporation.

this has occurred to me too; sometimes the observing seems like the best bit of life

ogmor, Monday, 15 May 2017 09:18 (seven years ago) link

this is part of why i enjoy photography, and street photography in particular, so much: it's an excuse to observe without interaction

The Patricia Routledge Meatspin Gif Has Made You Gay (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 May 2017 09:43 (seven years ago) link

althought having said that i haven't had the mental energy to so much as pick up my camera in months so uh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i guess

The Patricia Routledge Meatspin Gif Has Made You Gay (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 May 2017 09:44 (seven years ago) link

lurking through life w/out every registering is the dream, right

ogmor, Monday, 15 May 2017 12:12 (seven years ago) link

oh for sure, i lurked here for a long time before finally posting

The Patricia Routledge Meatspin Gif Has Made You Gay (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 May 2017 12:17 (seven years ago) link

When shall I know whether ye have power, O Mazda and Right, over everyone whose destructiveness is a menace to me? Let the revelation of Good Thought be confirmed unto me; the future deliverer should know how his own destiny shall be.

klangspiel klangspiel tempranillo glowing round my brain

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 08:13 (seven years ago) link

you don't have to type out every stupid mundane thought you have, Jim.

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 08:14 (seven years ago) link

using realname when shit gets.... bleated?

spud called maris (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 08:24 (seven years ago) link

typing out every stupid mundane thought you have is the essence of ilx

6,867 registered users 195,908 threads 12,868,980 messages

Drive Your Lover Wild In Bed By Cosplaying As Jeff Lynne (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 08:30 (seven years ago) link

under the new GCSE system I'd score that a 5

I'm not sure if Noodle and Jim are separate people or not. I'm not even sure why I'm Jim and not James, the former being the ex's preferred use because she'd already known a James and he was a douche. irony.

but it's fun to choose yr own name. maybe I shd let Noodle take over.

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 08:52 (seven years ago) link

that score was for darragh's wordplay btw

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 08:52 (seven years ago) link

that ramble was like why didn't I revert to the name I had as a kid when the number 1 reason I started using the colloquial form isn't my number 1 reason any more - I don't feel strongly either way, but the name I use now feels like another character/mask somehow. and my mom and dad would never ever use it.

god dammit every mundane slight tinge of a hangover lonely bored thought

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 08:59 (seven years ago) link

it's this or faking opinions about popular culture I guess

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 09:00 (seven years ago) link

you don't look like a noodle

ogmor, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 09:21 (seven years ago) link

if I could look different I'd really really want to tho

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 09:22 (seven years ago) link

BIG WEEKEEEEEEEEEEEEND

SPRANG BREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 May 2017 08:15 (seven years ago) link

SPRANG BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEK

j., Saturday, 27 May 2017 08:23 (seven years ago) link

ever lie around the house not knowing what the fuck to do with yourself and getting gradually more anxious because yr brain won't settle down?

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 June 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

this is rhetorical, i'll go bed

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 June 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link

tfw you don't put on a pink shirt for the day because you don't want the additional social interactions this wd entail

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 06:24 (six years ago) link

recurring mental landscape that wants to throw myself into deep water, or deep sky, which becomes the ocean of booze, recurring daydream of immersion in something bigger and purer and stiller, something that muffles noises, something that absorbs all difference? I don't know, following that trail. too much blather around me, too much fear of stillness and silence. nobody knows how to sit.

I don't know what this means.

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 09:15 (six years ago) link

Everything that isn’t right you assume is your fault. Maybe it is. Definitely don’t think you’re responding appropriately to people when they come to you. Peering through irritable fog. I am supremely pointless. Perhaps everything is, but the rest isn’t my concern. Camus isn’t really cutting it for me right now, his crises feel too sunsoaked to be real. On some fundamental level I am a lousy human being, lousy meaning manqué, not self-attributing superheroic powers of evil, simply failure. Botched timeline. This surreptitious tip-tap into Word, then onto here, is as comforting as I can handle right now. For what it’s worth. Puisne.

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 June 2017 07:31 (six years ago) link

I can't kick this feeling when it hits

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 June 2017 07:33 (six years ago) link

Amid the fishing-like gear sit several buckets and pipes drilled with holes and stuffed with guts. These are called SADs, or shark attractant devices, and they are thrown overboard to bleed all night in the warm sea.

mookieproof, Sunday, 18 June 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

Take me to the dark
Oh god I get down on my knees
And I feel like I could die
By the river of disease

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 June 2017 07:42 (six years ago) link

all I want

is to say, respectfully, regretfully, to friends and family

"I'm going away for a while. You won't be able to contact me, I won't be able to reply"

and then to hunker down, hermit-like as possible. get still. listen to not me, not voices. read.

"Sorry for misanthrope. It's not you, it's me."

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 06:50 (six years ago) link

Have never actually seen John Boorman's film Leo the Last, but apparently there's a scene where the main character puts up a sign saying, "I am NOT available". I frequently think about getting one of those signs.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 09:02 (six years ago) link

maybe a t-shirt

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 09:41 (six years ago) link

forehead tat or gtfo imo

total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 09:43 (six years ago) link

dewn't drop inn

estela, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link

a while back there was a state employee who was our contact for a funding contract, but every time my boss called him, it went to voice mail, with the message, "I'm retired! Yayyy!"

Have seriously considered following his example, even though I'm only in my 40s

sarahell, Sunday, 25 June 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

the first proper full time job i had was with the Inland Revenue. i'd been there about 3 months when a memo went round asking for volunteers for early retirement. my boss didn't see the funny side when i put my name down.

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 June 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

Dream job: Outland revenue

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 June 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

going to mom's for a week and selfishly i'm gently anxious. Don't wanna be confronted with company right now. Thought about this last night - I don't think i'm depressed, but purposeless, blank. I don't know what to do with myself at all. Just lay around, read, flail at grasping what's missing. Don't know what I want. I want to be alone, or failing that I want to sit in pubs all day. But I don't crave booze, just that space. Any free space

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link

flail at grasping what's missing.

christ this. it doesn't help that i feel my wits are essentially numb these days, but also extracting meaning has become glassy wall with no foot or handholds.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 08:30 (six years ago) link

Modest proposal: arm train conductors so the notion of a quiet carriage can be appropriately enforced

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 09:02 (six years ago) link

is there enough booze in the world? gonna go n

over-the-counter sexual-harassment products (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 13:16 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

cricket on TV, pub open, me with a dearth of ideas, I dunno, this country's not set up for sober adult entertainment

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 August 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

If it really was The Golden Age of TV, staying in might have had more appeal.

calzino, Monday, 7 August 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link

Mayo Roscommon throw in right now.

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 7 August 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

there's enough to do at home alone, could've stayed on the PlayStation all day, but that's not gonna cure this dumb restlessness that my booze addiction uses an excuse to get me out.

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 August 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link

although you'd think i'd been to the pub enough to know that there are no potential soulmates hanging out in here

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 August 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link

Mayo Roscommon is over already tbf

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 7 August 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link

Was gonna question the timing but you've a bank holiday today y?

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 August 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link

V much so

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 7 August 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link

This would cheer u.

Plucky Roscommon having won the provincial championship have to go back and play a few extra rounds regardless to ensure that the same big teams get to the semis and getting crucified here.

Mayo, having shat it earlier in the year that usual are now crushing the above just in time for our lfc style hype to be fed into the Kerry schadenfreude machine

It's all v much metaphorically useless noise and colour

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 7 August 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link

They used to pull that shit a lot with Rugby League, it's good when they don't bother hiding the bias

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 August 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link

thanks to a rare viewing of Cash Trapped i found out about Brigadier Sir Nils Olav which has been the icing on a decent week

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Olav

http://blogs.ft.com/photo-diary/files/2016/08/Penguin_PA.jpg

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 August 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

omg

kinder, Thursday, 17 August 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link

haha wow

imago, Thursday, 17 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

even the military are cuddly now and then ;)

imago, Thursday, 17 August 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

a+ brigadier, would follow into battle

licking the yellow Toad next to the teleporter (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 August 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

love it

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

The honour was approved by King Harald V and Nils was the first penguin to receive such an honour in the Norwegian Army.[11]

You don't say.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

xp

I notice it only says in the Norwegian army

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link

the playlist in yr first comment is still probably my favorite "shuffle" playlist I've ever seen, btw

sleeve, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

thanks :)

it's slightly weird realising that was only 6 years ago

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 August 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

when I'm still sober at this time of night I get so fucking sad I can't stand it.

didn't want to lay that on anybody irl. carry on.

a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 31 August 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

How I wish I was still sober at this time. Grass is always greener etc.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 31 August 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

But but transfer deadline

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 August 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

True true. Highly unwelcome distraction of... things.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 31 August 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

woooo my yellow bile is off the chart today, somebody get me a phlebotomist

a big sausage-handed small-eared guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 September 2017 09:57 (six years ago) link

I'm so glad, and I am glad
I am glad, I am glad
I don't know what to do
don't know what to do, I don't know what to do

epiphanic vision of the world on George Street, melted to softness in the rain, breathing, warm. I wanted to sink into it, wrap myself in it; we were together and infinitely, gently sad.

now it's too warm in my office and there's inches of fogged glass between me and the world, there's just people and office systems and my fuzzy head. I can't help, today. people are the enemy.

Cheds Baker (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 September 2017 07:38 (six years ago) link

why would suicide make the survivors feel bad? I ask myself, purely hypothetically

be the cringe you want to see in the world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link

if you honestly answered your hypothetical question I think you'd find there are many reasons, some of which will be about how people feel about themselves, most of which will be about how people feel about you

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 18 September 2017 11:19 (six years ago) link

I guess I was thinking "compared to a heart attack or cancer" but I know, I know.

indigo Monday.

be the cringe you want to see in the world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

when the void fills my head and excludes all thought and the weight of it drags on my whole body - how do I locate a cause for that, something to work on? how do I explain what that is to anybody else?

be the cringe you want to see in the world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link

nausea in extreme slow motion

be the cringe you want to see in the world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2017 12:41 (six years ago) link

i'm not in right now
i'm not, in right now
i'm not in, right now
i'm not in right, now
now i'm not in right
now i'm not in, right
right now i'm in not
now i'm right, not in
now in: i'm not right

be the cringe you want to see in the world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 September 2017 07:36 (six years ago) link

I think I photoed a world of ignorance.

Pictures to follow

be the cringe you want to see in the world (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 September 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link

doesn't seem too difficult but i look forward to seeing them

mookieproof, Friday, 29 September 2017 04:40 (six years ago) link

awwwww shit

be the cringe you want to see in the world (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 September 2017 05:40 (six years ago) link

i only feel comfortable in certain kinds of company, which makes days like this, when i wake up from a nightmare about loneliness that's coloured the whole day, but i can't go to the pub, difficult to deal with.

Stavanger Abbey (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 October 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link

it's the type of weather that is the reward for suffering through the summer heat
the type of weather best enjoyed with company
is a lack of suffering, a release from suffering an actual reward
or is it a cruel trigger of malaise, of emotional and existential pain
now that the visceral suffering has ended

sarahell, Sunday, 1 October 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

With a wide range of unique cocktails created especially for Riddlers being served in a jam jar to an old tin teapot, this really is something different to the Hull scene that's not been done before.

*cough*

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 October 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link

I decided yesterday that I couldn't morally commit suicide because suicide always entails an act of violence - at least aggression - against others. but that's just me, other opinions are available. little comedy voice in the back of my head saying "I should kill myself" every couple of hours won't go away tho. I'm not planning tho so it's good. it's just a weird voice, like it's not mine somehow. or to be more accurate like some dumb bit of shtick that I can't turn off.

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 11:44 (six years ago) link

really want to be left alone by humanity atm tho. can't settle my head on anything: reading, video games, hardly even watching TV. don't know what I wanna do with myself. struggling thru work, tho it distracts me from stuckness occasionally. keep realising my jaw is really clenched, don't know how to unclench it, like it's set. other little voice in my head squeaks "don't look at me" if I make eye contact with strangers in the street. keep breathing too quick and shallow, keep jittering or walking like my legs weigh a hundred tons.

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 11:48 (six years ago) link

writing this out by way of self-inventory. the shouting and shenanigans of (young) people is nails on a blackboard. everything is soooo heavy.

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link

can you get the voice to append 'waka waka' to that each time, that might help

j., Wednesday, 18 October 2017 13:27 (six years ago) link

it's crazy but it just might work

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

also the motto on my coat of arms

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

maybe instead you can ask the voice to say 'take my life... please' in the manner of a midcentury catskills comedian

or a suicidal fozzy bear

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link

that's good too, maybe in a combo

lotta material to have in your pocket

j., Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

even the meaningless non-rules that I impose on myself feel oppressive, more little sparklers of anxiety in the dark. laid round the house for 8 days or so, unable or unwilling to leave most of the time. tomorrow I've gotta make myself go back to work. might as well be a public void as a private one. I hate the sound and sight of myself. I hate my own apparent presence - apparent cos there's no-one here really. typing this why? to try and look at it outside? to stave off trying to sleep or read. to leave a vapour trail. I'm supposed to talk to someone who can help but there's nothing to help, sorry I can't tell you why I don't exist, sorry I have no insight into how to undo 50 years of neutron egoism, sorry wrong number. fucking screens, man. the inside of my head just another matt glaring screen. everything solipsism always. so much fucking effort. not a clue. nothing wrong, just this is what is.

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link

exactly a year ago, I was running my own business, and had for the first time in my life reached the lower rungs of affluence. It was kinda cool. I'm 42 and what took me so long was a persistent drug problem which I'd finally gained some real control over.

But when I saw that I had enough money saved up that I could afford to do something silly, I stayed dabbling again. I thought I could chip (use moderately/occasionally) but I was wrong.

A year later I am at my mom's. Desperately fighting off a despair which I know will soon overtake me. Yesterday, for the first time in my life, I turned on the TV, not to watch anything specific, not even out of boredom, but just to distract myself. I've never done that before

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Monday, 13 November 2017 01:19 (six years ago) link

Just wanna say love you guys and hope you are doing OK and if you ever want to communicate privately feel free to get in touch.
I've been reallllly grouchy and depressed the last week or so, based on a lot of things -- money anxiety (my work now is not reliable), house being a complete mess, feel like i have wasted my life, etc. You guys are not alone and while I have no real practical advice, but eating right and getting enough sleep do seem to make a little bit of difference.

seriously be safe and take care of yourselves, anything I can do please reach out.

ian, Monday, 13 November 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

thanks ian. I wanted to say same to rvw as you've just said. I dunno what else I can do, don't understand why I publicly moan like this either, sometimes just need to spell it out to myself I guess. recognition feels like a good thing - all of us struggling along one way or another.

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

God bless all here

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

NV, there's so much we ask ourselves, doubt ourselves on every single day. Lets not make "why do I moan in public" one of them. I mean you're allowed but it's not necessary here, not as a disclaimer of sorts. Spelling it out is good and hard enough already.

Best to all <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 13 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

having to do stuff sucks, my mind wants to be free

brimstead, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link

felt weird about venting itt as it has a bit of a clubbish feel (not that that's anyone's intent, more just a function of who posts here and how often), so thanks for indulging me and for the kind words.

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 02:18 (six years ago) link

the first post here, with the playlist and the freecell, gets me every time. just perfect

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link

god, watching Morse try to cop off with obvious murder suspects gets more painful the older I get

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 11:34 (six years ago) link

the memeification of Christmas jumpers can get right tae fuck imo

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b080dvyc

Sailors, Ships & Stevedores: The Story of British Docks

watched this last night. somewhere in the last 10 minutes there's footage of a docker complaining about decasualization. from memory he says something like "A man...a real man...he'll work, he'll provide for his wife and kids." The idea of better terms, of more stability of employment is an affront to the guy's sense of worth.

a couple of weeks ago I went to see a community play about Lillian Bilocca

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillian_Bilocca

Spurred into action by the Hull triple trawler tragedy of 1968 which claimed 58 lives she led a direct action campaign to prevent undermanned trawlers from putting to sea and gathered 10,000 signatures for a petition (the Fishermen's Charter) to Harold Wilson's government to strengthen safety legislation.

not from any ideological conviction but because people were sick of watching their loved ones die because their employers wouldn't spare any money or effort to protect them. this was a few years before the Health and Safety at Work Act, of course. and some local people vilified Lil for this. she got hate mail, threats in the street. newspapers implying she was "in it for the money" somehow. because people were worried that safety measures would mean them losing their jobs, losing the opportunity to maximize their pay. the same objections must have come up against HaSaWA time and again from the exact body of people that law was put in place to protect.

it all makes me think of The Ragged-Trousered Philanthropists and the way Tressell characterizers most of the workers' disdain and hatred of socialism, organization, rocking the boat. and the way the characters talk in that book, the clippings of folk wisdom they share from local newspapers, aren't caricatures at all - it's the same voices I've heard my dad repeat to me when talking about his work, it's the same tone I've heard throughout my working life.

I know we shouldn't talk about "false consciousness" in 2017 because it's a busted old Leninist notion but if not false then what? a continuous history of accepting your exploitation as long as you're not the most exploited or as long as there's enough in the kitty to stay in the pub all weekend. tiredness and apathy and protecting the present rather than gamble on a future, not just for yourselves but for your "wife and kids". this is Old Labour tbh, before a bunch of 60s Liberals who knew that joining the SDP was for losers forged an alliance and rebranded them. this is the history of the Trade Union movement, more so than communists on Clydeside or the Charge of the Scargill Brigade.

it's patriarchial and parochial and insular and anti...something, not "intellectual", fuck that, but it's anti-thoughtful and anti-love and anti-beauty. it's spun right thru every working class Brit's DNA imo. it's baked into our political system, a loyal opposition, a reasonable, respectable, forelock-tugging mulishness that gets a little bit naughty on bank holidays and works outings.

no shape to this really yet, just dry brain in a wet season. god help us.

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 10:33 (six years ago) link

church and king mobs in the 18th century:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestley_Riots

^^^forget whether this is actually discussed in e.p.thompson's "the making of the english working class" -- i think it slightly predates the period covered but may be mentioned in passing early on

i suspect the phenom as it exists in british culture is bound into the class specifics of the early formation of england as a modern nation (one of the first attempts at the abolition of monarchy; pioneer of the industrial revolution; the layered caste requirements of creating and maintaining the union etc etc)

a further good point is hinted at in the wikipedia article: the fact that the less reactionary fraction is probably the mobile fraction -- the one that moves to the big city, to london, overseas to empire, off to uni and a nice media job in brussels -- and that with this comes a definite (and not entirely unjustified) resentment among the left-behind, as well as an unaddressed self-hatred

angry-young-man-ism and lol oasis are artistic movements that address and deploy these resentments: in both cases almost everyone involved has ended up as a bitter reactionary (obviously not bonehead)

mark s, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 10:56 (six years ago) link

yes, before university and nebulous middle-class careers were a viable route for working class people that mobility just manifested in different ways - criminality or religious dissent, roving mechanics, all of them able to lose themselves and reinvent themselves in the safety of numbers that cities created. and those routes lead to revolutionary politics. last month watching the German Luther biopic I was reminded again (via Luther Blissett's Q) that one of the main forebears of radical politics was radical Protestantism that became atheism, agnosticism, pantheism, whatever you like. and of course so much of that is fighting back against Nobodaddy.

that's the interzone between genuine working and genuine middle class and it leads to distrust from both sides, tho obv the middle class are more accommodating in some ways as long as you don't mind them laughing behind yr back.

what this implies for genuine lol class consciousness I'm never entirely sure tho. hating that refractoriness is like hating a part of myself - which I do! - but also impossible because so much of my deepest values is still rooted there, because it's still a homelier space to me, the only comfortable social space for me if I'm honest. but home is so sad.

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:18 (six years ago) link

"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" = Jesus invents false consciousness

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:24 (six years ago) link

the main problem with false consciousness as a concept is the implication that there's a "true consciousness" -- weaponised by an org, this takes you into sc13ntology/swuppie territory distressingly quickly (or so history seems to teach us)

my take: all consciousness is more or less false, and what we have to do is select from its competing areas which is (situationally) the most useful (where the demands of the immediate situation may well conflict with the demands of imagined futures) (the competing areas do adapt to each other, but dynamically more than harmoniously)

mark s, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:37 (six years ago) link

mark s' theory of consciousness: it's like a lava lamp balanced on top of a speeding car

mark s, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:38 (six years ago) link

no I agree, my crack about Leninism was irritation that the idea that we're fundamentally wrong about our life situations is dismissed. the real problem is precisely what you say - naive dialectic of false/true. funny how I hadn't realised before that Jesus's cross-based remark ties into the idea so neatly tho.

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link

incredible posts, kiu

imago, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:43 (six years ago) link

there was a "cult expert" last night on the radio talking about dead Manson who suddenly got very cultish when somebody asked him if some people might just like being in a cult. "NOOOOO, THEY ARE ALL PROGRAMMED, BLAH BLAH PSYCHOBABBLISH JARGON" went on for several minutes sounding like a slighted guru in a deliciously ironic display of butthurt

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link

this ties into a problem with a lot of the mental health things I've done and read, so much mental health talk seems to rely on having a stable and true version of relating to the world that you're supposed to come back to no matter how much the cult of *e.g. depression* might offer you that's preferable to the supposed cure

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:47 (six years ago) link

This is terrific stuff guys

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:48 (six years ago) link

Cosign on posts

Fear of agitants rocking boat very likely tied to two main things imo

- the idea that as lean a system as possible ito waste is the best way to maximise earnings at the lower levels of manual/risk work. Or rather the suspicion/knowledge that the cost of waste (and for the purposes, waste here can be taken as 'the cost of not maximising the unit output of labour' which is obviously the crux n'est pas) is going to be taken from the wages of piecework in the first instance and the likely return from an attempt at systematic change to address any of this seems a bigger risk than your control over what your own two hands and body can provide for you in the immediate or ongoing future. Something something working class male bodies.

- the suspicion that agitants are just afraid of the level of work needed to prove yourself a real man, as spelled out well by NV in that storming post above. The measure of selfworth as a function of not just income/output but of the proving effect of the toil/risk/will as a thing in itself and the inherently conservative instinct to stay close to what has always worked (fagvo always, fagvo worked, lol) because eh most lads that land in this type of work haven't been encouraged towards thinking by their upbringing and indeed their education system, but they've been given a pride in what has ever been required of their fathers before them and ever shall it be

Son of trawlerman and a trawler family beyond time here btw iirc

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

there's an immediacy of risk/reward in those kind of jobs and that kind of work - levelling the playing field risks you making less money than you're capable of, that's why piecework is so attractive. but you'd think surely that the very visible spectre of the old and knackered friends and family all around you might give you some pause for thought of your own future. at least racehorses don't watch their broken-legged pals get shot, I assume.

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link

Those old and knackered friends whip you with the legend of their own times and hardiness in this type of culture ime

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link

Man, even 'the sea' is idk.....I've been to these places all over the world and all of these guys are worshipfully fatalistic about the risks that are portrayed as inherent, it's real societal sacrifice shit

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:23 (six years ago) link

true enough, but it wasn't so many years ago when telling those legends would be their only way of grubbing themselves a beer I think.

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link

It's a mesh, is it kidding themselves it was how it had to be, comforting themselves that it's true and just, making sure by god if I had to go through it these little shit have to as well, never did me any harm, who wants to live forever and yeah pay the pot to the grizzly survivor you'll be there yourself some day lad

Ben thatchers britain

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:26 (six years ago) link

"nobody's going to tell me I wasn't master of my own destiny" is probably one of the main underlying thoughts yeah

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link

suddenly reminds me that petty officer evans -- the only one in capt scott's polar party from the lower decks -- had a plan when he returned to open a pub in rhossili (called "the south pole" obv) and end his days as a landlord comfortably being bought pints as he told the relevant stories

in event he was overworked and underfed and first to die and (… takes it to the conspiracy thread… )

mark s, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link

Tom Crean!

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link

how much of exploration and the Scott party in particular was "proving yr masculinity by exposing yourself to suicidal risk and effort"? especially from the 20th century onwards where these things weren't really done for material trade benefits

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:36 (six years ago) link

also for some of the working class lads adventure must've felt more enticing than the life they'd otherwise have mapped out for them

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:37 (six years ago) link

Xps Not polar party, withdrawn :)

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:39 (six years ago) link

make yourself a strenuous man!

ogmor, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link

there was a significant element of prove-you're-not-an-aubrey-beardsley-style decadent, yes

more complicatedly, sir clement markham, scott's mentor -- who had been on an arctic expedition as a young man in search of franklin's bones -- was obsessed with the necessary manliness of never using dogs to pull the sleds: brawny manhauling was the only acceptable way for the empire (also amateurism: amundsen was bad bcz he was a professional explorer)

x-p: tom crean was present at key stages on several of the madder expeditions! heroic but taciturn, saved another evans by a 35-mile one-day solo march across the ice, ended up running a pub i think -- not in the actual polar party, but in the last one sent home

mark s, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link

complicatedly bcz markham's tastes ran to brawny young men

mark s, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link

how the hell do you people do it? how do you do it?? how is it done????

brimstead, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link

is there a foreign object in my head that's impairing some essential survival mechanism?

brimstead, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link

sorry, carry on

brimstead, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link

:(

i don't know, sometimes the best i can manage is a near-functional blankness, apparently that'll do.

faked potato (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 07:20 (six years ago) link

caveat: all i know abt trawlerman culture is (a) in this thread (b) when the boat comes in (c) that old ad that said "gone fishing gone away"

but am guessing it's a culture where, rather than the whims of the factory boss that everyone faces, you are mainly confronting the market directly (if you catch and sell enough, your family eats) -- so that cutting across the shared knowledge and tribulation of the other adversary (the sea), where you feel at one with those who know and disdain for those who don't, there's an intense competitive rivalry... cultural solidarity but not really economic solidarity?

not sure how this extends to docker culture (abt which i also know nothing obv except for on the waterfront)

marcus rediker has argued that the tradition of libertarian constitutionalism began with atlantic pirates: radical individualists by persuasion (they called themselves "masterless men" in an age when this had huge meaning) , they were nevertheless all in it together ("or we all hang separately" etc) and collectively recognised the need to strike up a contract with the pirateship's pirate captain, abt equitable division of spoils and abt restitution

^^^the latter is what the "black spot" is in treasure island: the crew's right to vote out their captain

obviously trawlermen aren't pirates *or* dockers, so i'm not sure where i'm going with this

mark s, Friday, 24 November 2017 10:52 (six years ago) link

Heh trawlermen are at least half smugglers, whatever about pirates

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 24 November 2017 11:10 (six years ago) link

another culture i know nothing about, let me generalise some more (i read moonfleet as a kid)

mark s, Friday, 24 November 2017 11:13 (six years ago) link

Sexton Ratsey? No it's just the way my trousers are hanging...

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 24 November 2017 11:18 (six years ago) link

Hull trawlermen as I understand it where at the whims of their bosses - they were hired labour on boats owned by a small number of wealthy family companies, and the owners didn't go to sea iirc

who says no to mentals? (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 November 2017 11:31 (six years ago) link

but their contracts are renewed on a single-voyage basis? that will also cut into economic solidarity (and is closer to dockers) (at least, the ones in on the waterfront)

mark s, Friday, 24 November 2017 11:41 (six years ago) link

oh yeah, the reasons for non-solidarity are clear, tho I think many of them were unionized to some extent

who says no to mentals? (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 November 2017 11:48 (six years ago) link

*deletes long speculation abt vikings*

mark s, Friday, 24 November 2017 12:06 (six years ago) link

lately get more and more sick of the sound of my own voice even when it's only internal

Pred Sheeran (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 10:27 (six years ago) link

prefer it when my brain plays instrumentals

ogmor, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

Dream baby dream

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Sunday, 3 December 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

True story, I couldn't open this thread in zing for like months.

I'm in the weirdest mood, like I actually feel good (if drunk, which is in itself bad, for me) but also --1

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link

Haha I fell asleep before I could finish articulating what I meant, nm

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, 4 December 2017 13:27 (six years ago) link

yeah I didn't really know how to respond I was half asleep when I read it

Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 December 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

I dunno I mean -1 seems fair enough to me

moyesery loves kompany (darraghmac), Monday, 4 December 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

here are the young men the grapes on their shoulders

after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

had a real urge to nail myself to something today, then spent a while thinking about what substances might kill me quietly and painlessly, then thought about going back to the pub, then made a sandwich and turned the central heating on, then chatted shit on the internet

after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

of all of the little tricks and rituals to help survive being alive, possibly my #1 is don't listen to decades, ever

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

i wasn't! i just thought of the grapes thing.

after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

i once told a woman i really loved that the reason i was chirpier than her was because i listened to reggae and not Lou Reed first thing in the morning but

after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

there's definitely something to that. maybe i can rig finally by cece peniston to be my alarm

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

Best alarm song is Si Begg’s “River” feat. Jinadu from The Director’s Cut (2003)

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

i listened to decades : /

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 December 2017 06:13 (six years ago) link

all I wanna do is cocoon myself in the house and meditate on sadness and pointlessness but I'm still not going down the Joy Div route :)

promised myself I was gonna stop posting, there's the first failure of the day

best display name of 2017 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 December 2017 10:54 (six years ago) link

Armstrong and Osman, kings of looking like smug wankers while wearing shirts and jackets without ties.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Sunday, 10 December 2017 11:20 (six years ago) link

If I could pull off that look, I'd be the CEO of a second tier tech company.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Sunday, 10 December 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link

never stop posting iirc

straightedge is just volcel for vegans (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 10 December 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

http://memegenerator.net/img/images/5103481.jpg
"Always... Be... Cposting..."

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Sunday, 10 December 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link

Finally, they come along
The weight upon their shoulders, it just can't be wrong
If you'd only seen, the trauma and degeneration
I just can't describe it, oh no no

Finally it has happened to me, door slammed right in my face
My heart's lost forever

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 10 December 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link

like at the end of a shower when you turn the hot off

fuiud, mac (rip van wanko), Sunday, 10 December 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

good session with my counsellor yesterday, feel like I'm making real progress, so obviously I went on a fourteen hour bender, came home, passed out, slept all day, missed work. fucking fuck's fucking sake I fucking hate myself, worthless useless feckless cretin, some merciful god kill me and stop fucking everybody about

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

You are worthy

brimstead, Friday, 15 December 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link

i'm sure you'll shrug those feelings off quickly if you haven't already but you're none of those things nv & you don't deserve to hear that shit, from yourself or anyone else.

ogmor, Saturday, 16 December 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

i just don't understand why i keep failing in the same way. 30+ years of drunk. one of the stories i told my counsellor on Thursday was about how i turned up to my Oxford Uni interview with the remains of the bottle of cider i'd be drinking on the way down.

now i keep saying i'm not an alcoholic cos i'm not fucked up every day. i manage to go a week or more before caning it so hard i end up injured or put at risk or lost or off work. same kind of pattern for 30 odd years, sometimes more frequent, sometimes a little less. 6 months of sobriety maybe 3 or 4 times. endless debt and failed relationships. and tho i still feel like today - ok that's enough, no more, only an idiot would keep doing this, i know for sure that in another day or two i'll start to wheedle myself around - gotta go out for the end of term, gotta go and watch the football, gotta keep in touch with my friends, one or two won't hurt, just need a bit of control, i can do that. and round we go again.

i know the dramarama self-loathing doesn't help me. i don't know much that does help me. breathe deep, keep working on the counselling, keep trying i guess. and you can't dwell on the past or feel constrained by it but sometimes you leave enough wreckage in your wake and it makes the path forward very narrow.

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 December 2017 13:04 (six years ago) link

might be important to not view your life as one unified item. some days go badly, some relationships fail - but sometimes it's good, some weeks you get on top of things, some seasons you storm the league. and what feels like constant regression to booze is just one of many modes you operate in. anyway, good luck with keeping the demons at bay, we're all rooting for you

Cardi Acs (imago), Saturday, 16 December 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

some days charlton lose, millwall and palace win, and england's faint ashes hopes get murdered into the earth with a thousand jagged stakes

Cardi Acs (imago), Saturday, 16 December 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

Eyes know nothing of these pleasantries; they do not recognize exchange. When our eyes meet someone else's they become uneasy, as if they could make out their own empty, soulless reflection in the other person's pupils. Hardly have they met when they slip aside and try to dodge one another; their lines of flight cross in an invisible point, making an angle whose acuteness expresses the divergence, the deeply felt lack of harmony. Sometimes unison is achieved and eyes connect; the beautiful parallel stare of royal couples in Egyptian sculpture, the misty, melting gaze, brimming with eroticism, of lovers: eyes which devour one another from afar. But most of the time the eyes repudiate the superficial agreement sealed by the handshake. Consider the popularity of the energetic reiteration of social agreement (the phrase 'let's shake on it' indicates its commercial overtones): isn't it a trick played on the senses, a way of dulling the sensitivity of the eyes so that they don't revolt against the emptiness of the spectacle? The good sense of consumer society has brought the old expression 'see things my way' to its logical conclusion: whichever way you look, you see nothing but things.

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

not sad but peaceful, i have very forgiving friends, i shd learn to accept to deserve them

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

rum: loneliness: weekend: let's go

not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 January 2018 09:52 (six years ago) link

7:30:2:30::coffeeshop:bar

calstars, Saturday, 6 January 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link

high five

not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 January 2018 13:00 (six years ago) link

findeed.

bad and self-hateful hangover.

with reference to ongoing flirtation thread i may be not checking my "libido flattened by age and antidepressants" privilege.

not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 January 2018 12:31 (six years ago) link

maybe a less harsh and self-hating way of putting that would be "a kindly disposition" or "avuncular". Well, that's what I tell myself, but ugly old bassa is closer to the truth!

calzino, Sunday, 7 January 2018 12:48 (six years ago) link

work smarter, not harder

j., Sunday, 7 January 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link

that feeling when you're that bored that you end up clicking on ILM threads or Chapo Trap House just because

not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Monday, 8 January 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link

it's a very bad feeling

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 January 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link

I recommend incognito view so ILX doesn't keep reminding you of your lapse.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 January 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il6OKhd5iyM

Sure as fuck is a loooong Saturday this particular one, this fucker, this comedown. If it will ever come down at all. And if it will, down to what exactly? (i'm floating fyi)

Murmurs. Frost-bitten soul gnawed away at. Not terribly much left iirc. The bottles rolling over the floor when I accidentally kick them annoy me to no end; they get in the way of my feet when I try to get up from the sofa tryna find my way to the bedroom, the bed, unsuccessfully. I sure as hell didn't bring them bottles in aye? "Of course you didn't! Dem fucking drunks, fucking drunks bringn them in!"

Fucking drunks am I not right, fellows? More murmurs, more bullshit, all this bullshit, never-ending stream of bullshit. If I die tonight that's quite alright, just give me summat nice to listen to. Not a lot to ask tbh. Something sedative, something nice. Pretenders? Why yes aren't e all.. Oh the song yes, yes that will do, yessir ty. And I didn't get those bottles in here tbh, really didrn't wasn't me iirc but it's ok, mann this is a looongg saturday, this will do, quite nice chaps, ah yes that's nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Hy7uAb_eU

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link

scratch all that; just a long saturday. long.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link

deepest blue, lost boy blue, pub blue because what else blue?

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 January 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

that feeling when you're that bored that you end up clicking on ILM threads or Chapo Trap House just because

tfw when you realise you and ilx poster noodle vague are in fact the same person

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 13 January 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

Love you tiher

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 January 2018 20:49 (six years ago) link

That was supposed to say tiger ffs

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 January 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

*shwoon*

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 January 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

drink this mess around

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:18 (six years ago) link

some days god throws you a mutual crush and some days she's married anyway

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:19 (six years ago) link

can really feel how peaceful and sleepy death could be today but i've made promises to people for the week ahead and i don't want to mess them around

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:00 (six years ago) link

godspeed

also as will have been known, people can always become de-married

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link

i'm not even going there, i'm not about that any more, and to be honest it's only throwing an extra shade of blue into the long standing indigo, imago

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:09 (six years ago) link

anyway really sometimes it's just drinky friends isn't it and that's just okay

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:11 (six years ago) link

aye

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:21 (six years ago) link

anyway, as Catherine Wheel put it, Indigo Is Blue :) maybe have a nice invigorating 90s indie sesh

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:24 (six years ago) link

i am hammering the B-52s and Beaujolais tbh

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:31 (six years ago) link

at least the odds of me running into Cindy Wilson in the Haworth are slim

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:32 (six years ago) link

noodle will join you at the virtua bar but I have to wait for the world to turn about a quarter of its rotation, it’s still morning here

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:36 (six years ago) link

no worries bud when you're ready

tho there's an increasing probability i'll head out for the non-virtua bar when this wine runs out

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:38 (six years ago) link

Already at a real bar tbf. Not in Haworth, mind. They're playing Nerd and Timberlake but there's so many people at the bar already it's barely audible. At the very least, you're not alone. Godspeed NV <3

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:40 (six years ago) link

the Haworth is actually my fave pub in Hull, and just to make it weird they pronounce it Hay-worth

bonne chance LBI

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:41 (six years ago) link

Ah ffs, some grey matter slowly starting to bubble, indicating you've told me that once already.

Hay-worth like Rita? The place sounds more like How-arth iirc. No lovely Rita's there.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link

yeah the pronunciation difference is as you describe

i don't think i've ever met a Rita irl

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link

PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUB

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

Same!

And same.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link

pretty sure I'm quite battered and at work tbh also I would v much like to drop dead thank you come again

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:09 (six years ago) link

aye

mookieproof, Monday, 15 January 2018 09:29 (six years ago) link

look when I said dead I was hoping for something more peaceful than panic-induced heart attack

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 11:00 (six years ago) link

I am divided 50-50 between wanting to keep borrowing money and drinkinf

hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 January 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

and drinking it or stopping doing that and sinking into this settee forevs

hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 January 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

it had already come to bits before y/day's bereavement, like i'd pre-cogged it without realizing.

just when i think i'm out i drag me back in again. the same mistakes, or new versions of the old mistakes. i keep trying to fix me so's to make nice with the world but the world is indifferent and won't ever try to meet me halfway. i try to show sad or frustrated or some version of "look i'm trying here" but i don't believe i'm trying and i don't know what i want except evaporation. indolence carried to the point where i just flake away like a parsee to mingle with the detritus filling the house. i think the indolence is much easier than trying to untangle the actual wishes and ideas and desires that still swoosh through my brain periodically.

the mistake was trying to get right one-sidedly without addressing what to do or how to live. i tell myself or other people tell me you have to fix the one thing first. you have to become functional and useful and then if you do that for long enough maybe you can work on digging your tunnel or maybe the world will give you a holiday for good behaviour. you have to earn your self-actualization and it's doled out in small chunks, if at all. evenings and weekends as they say. tho the evenings and weekends don't work because the chunks are too small and you have to be careful not to cross-contaminate work time. industrial space-time.

i'm trying very hard to stay sober this week because a) i don't think non-sobriety is helping and b) i have no better ideas to cling onto. mainly b. i don't like leaving the house unless i have to get food. i want to try to manage with less and less food but then my brain gets hungry and i start eating. i don't think my stomach is hungry at all. just the idea of food comes along and irritates. when the irritation weighs more than the need to stay inside i drag some clothes on and run to the nearest shop and back quick as i can. tho the shop takes too long because i just stare at aisles of things i don't want and i don't really know what i want - something effortless, something that needs as little preparation as possible.

i feel 70, whatever that feels like. i mean i feel like i'm retired, on the way out, no more skin in the game. sometimes i tell myself a drink will at least shake me out of this but i don't want to be out of it and see above. i'm in a great nothing that can't aspire to meditation. just distracted apathy, video games and a little reading. sick of the world without nausea. the language of tv adverts is the language of limbo, dream voices nagging and cajoling you to the worst kind of extinction: participation.

i type all this out to get a handle, to try to get a handle. to try to understand where i am. from outside: what's wrong. but here i'm not wrong i just am here, stuck, maybe a smidgeon bored or wishing i could get out of this still but that'll pass, again, and it'll be bedtime soon enough and i'll be up again tomorrow with the great weight pressing me into the bed, keeping me in here which might as well be everywhere.

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 08:49 (six years ago) link

dream voices nagging and cajoling you to the worst kind of extinction: participation

damn

#TeamHailing (imago), Thursday, 25 January 2018 09:11 (six years ago) link

that's a lovely and lyrical post nv. i hope writing it out has proven some form of consolation

#TeamHailing (imago), Thursday, 25 January 2018 09:11 (six years ago) link

thanks :/

i've got no idea what i'm doing

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 09:23 (six years ago) link

that is probably preferable to dull certainty

#TeamHailing (imago), Thursday, 25 January 2018 09:24 (six years ago) link

Hi NV

i,CloudiOS (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 January 2018 09:35 (six years ago) link

that hits pretty close to home tbh

there's a little-known phrase that i find really helpful in trying times, and i can't believe more people don't know about it

hold on lemme google it up for you and make sure i get it right, i think you're really gonna like it

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:28 (six years ago) link

hope that helps buddy

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:29 (six years ago) link

well i'm calm and i don't half carry on so

:D

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link

keep on truckin' NV

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:38 (six years ago) link

jeez neil way to pick a cliche

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:42 (six years ago) link

hah it's just what I do

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 25 January 2018 11:43 (six years ago) link

<3 all the best NV

great post. some familiar feelings summed up beautifully in there.

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:14 (six years ago) link

thanks

i opened some Beaujolais, i'm v short on ideas :)

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:16 (six years ago) link

look after yrself NV

(online is not nothing: ppl like having you around here)

mark s, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:24 (six years ago) link

it's true. i am doing some things better which lets me justify continuing to do most things badly

ogmor, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:30 (six years ago) link

online is not nothing: ppl like having you around here

this is v true on both counts

i think i'd be appreciably more of a basket case without ilx providing me an outlet to vent about climate change, cannibalism, late-stage capitalism and comic books

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link

tbth i do always appreciate my online chums and the space to mumble

it's not nothing

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link

"little internet buddies" as my GF refers to you all

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 25 January 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link

as a hulking monster-man i appreciate being referred to as 'little' tbh

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link

np, will pass that on

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 25 January 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link

fyi i use the big big font on my browser

j., Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link

Browse big, post small l, isn't that what they say?

I'm in the pub hearing beautiful football stories

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

make sure you tell them about your little internet buddies

j., Thursday, 25 January 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

I tell them everything bu

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1dlaikCaa4

in my head on a loop all week

This song began my realization of the Buddha as my teacher. I was a 8 year old British Caribbean boy born to Christian family. Today as a man i am a Buddhist.

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 08:21 (six years ago) link

The artless Jew : medieval and modern affirmations and denials of the visual
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bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 08:51 (six years ago) link

I was a 8 year old British Caribbean boy born to Christian family. Today as a man i am a Buddhist.

his bar mitzvah must have been wild

j., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link

The old mama-San at my regular has been replaced by a carbon copy 15 years her junior. I’m not complaining

calstars, Saturday, 3 February 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

i'ma listen to JTimbs's "Mirrors" on a loop and then kill myself. peace, you're all lovely

drugs don't kill people, poppers do (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 February 2018 11:39 (six years ago) link

sorry kids. I'm a drunky cunt. I slept it off

drugs don't kill people, poppers do (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 February 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

thx for not dying, appreciate it

i gotta be a gazpacho man (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link

But look if you go take Eric Dier with u yeah?

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

no worries. I'd go into details but it's a bit much even for me. Bottom line is I spend too much money on day-long benders and I was needlessly, casually cruel to this guy last night.

drugs don't kill people, poppers do (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

life's probably reached a low point when you consider going to watch Gaz Coombes as a conceptual jape

drugs don't kill people, poppers do (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 12:07 (six years ago) link

I've often wondered about that, irrespective of going to Gaz Coombes gigs, but I'm just too functional to be really crazy. or something.

anyway I feel ok today, those posts were light-hearted fun.

drugs don't kill people, poppers do (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 12:14 (six years ago) link

I meant for me you fucking narcissist

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 12:16 (six years ago) link

ah i see now

you're so fecking tangential, what do you expect? what we need is clear statements of facts in here.

i'll note that for a diagnosis it has to be sufficiently disorienting to interfere with your day to day existence but then that's a pretty nebulous concept anyway

drugs don't kill people, poppers do (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link

Well it would be wunt it

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 12:29 (six years ago) link

My tangentialism is a symptom u brute

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 12:29 (six years ago) link

who knows what the day to day would be like if we weren't being interfered with

ogmor, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link

If anyone wants to sponsor my conceptual jape . I'm willing to get a full back tattoo of a Gaz Coombes trypticon with lasers firing out of his eyes, and the Progress logo on my forehead. Then I will do ridiculous dancing with a wooden rattler for a few cans of lager. No, just joking - I won't be that desperate until next month!

calzino, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link

Twenty-three members of a Melbourne family were removed from a Carnival Cruise ship in southern NSW today after a violent brawl broke out on-board between passengers and security staff emerged.

i need to lol

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 13:55 (six years ago) link

In dramatic footage of the fight, up to 30 people on-board the 10-day Carnival Legend trip to the South Pacific can be seen fighting while others are screaming and attempting to hold them back, before the ship's security guards step in and pin them to the ground.

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

let's do it and be carnival legends

mark s, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:02 (six years ago) link

I'm gonna straight up say Irish heritagr

rum dmc (darraghmac), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link

Jimmy Pursey was quite the hotty tbh

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link

as long as there's credit there's booze

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link

Jimmy Pursey was quite the hotty tbh

if you're a big mouth billy bass fetishist mebbes

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

itt: two straight men disagree over jimmy pursey's attractiveness

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link

he has a lovely gleam in his eye

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link

he was very passionate about The Kids tho!

calzino, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link

it is v important for the kids to be united

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link

not Utd tho, fuck that shit

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link

i am afraid i may be going dahn the pub agin

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link

have a pint of advocaat for me willya

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link

Steve Wright ruins that video at the end because he is a cunt

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link

i had a Snowball yisterday! i might only be fit for Snowballs today

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

i'm playing "Hurry Up Harry" and "Blue Pedro" on a loop, this will end well

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

"Blue Paedo"?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

guys at some point the plan is this will kill me so i want y'all to know it's been a pleasure, peace, love you all

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link

i'll be honest, i'd prefer it if you staved off death for a while yet

who else around here would poll after-dinner comics ffs

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link

i'm gonna go out in my dressing gown because i am a G

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link

he was very passionate about The Kids tho!

a bit too passionate some might say, given his membership of the Sex Offenders' Register.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 16 February 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link

Always quibble quibble quibble

rum dmc (darraghmac), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link

(xp) Was waiting for that to come up.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

That's what Jonathan King said.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

well here's one of the more troubling discogs lists i've stumbled across in my time: Convicted of Child Pornography, Child Sex, or Underage Sex Crimes

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link

... and that. (xp)

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

decided against polling this one tbh xp

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

I was going to say "Only 18?", but thought better of it. I don't see Roy Estrada there.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link

itt: tom d takes issue with inadequate paedo lists on discogs

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link

classic ILM

"oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

so that is what happened to Jeffrey Jones acting career, I thought he was brown bread!

calzino, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link

i'd have preferred it if he had tbh, i watched beetlejuice again recently and he was tough to watch onscreen

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

in a way his crimes would seem totally in character for his Deadwood role.

calzino, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

I just wish he'd bummed the life out of Ferris Bueller

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link

And Howard the Duck.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link

this thread took a revealing turn

mark s, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link

I just wish he'd bummed the life out of Ferris Bueller

while i can't condone this, i feel i should point out that if it had happened, those two women from northern ireland who matthew broderick killed might still be alive today

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

and perhaps more importantly we might not have had the inspector gadget movie

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

Northern Irish lives are cheap innit

rum dmc (darraghmac), Friday, 16 February 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link

well i wasn't gonna be the first one to say it

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

Offered as a lament obv

rum dmc (darraghmac), Friday, 16 February 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

I guarantee u that whatever emotion u are trying to elicit with that God is not the emotion that gif makes me feel

rum dmc (darraghmac), Friday, 16 February 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

i am not here to police yr emotions

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

that's my job

mark s, Friday, 16 February 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link

ilxorgchart.jpg

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

It's an xls ffs

rum dmc (darraghmac), Friday, 16 February 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link

FUCK

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

I was thinking orgs certainly

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link

Guys

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 03:25 (six years ago) link

I came out in my dressing gown because why the fuck not

And I did "No Scrubs" and "We Care a Lot" on the karoake

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 03:27 (six years ago) link

And I'm sat in the smoking space in Propaganda and basically beyond battered

And boys are never uglier or beautifuller than when they've had a few

But this is it, this is as good s it gets

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 03:31 (six years ago) link

And if this is Leaving Las Vegas, well, leave on a high

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 04:08 (six years ago) link

lads, iirc

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 February 2018 04:40 (six years ago) link

Lads

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 04:44 (six years ago) link

COMFORT IS POWER

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 04:45 (six years ago) link

oh god kids the comedown. hallucinating angry showroom dummies in the ghost mall.
only fleisch und blud

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 06:08 (six years ago) link

I was in zen. Total zen. But god we're pigs. The piiiiiigs. Pigs in zen.

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 06:14 (six years ago) link

i wish the camera on my phone still worked. there's this enormous cig-shaped chimbley behind the house and it's in the East and the sky is just blueing up and the eyeball-slash clouds are hanging behind and it's just

landscapes are ok. senses are ok.

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 06:31 (six years ago) link

brothers and sisters

i don't know what if this world is coming to

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 06:32 (six years ago) link

Ladscapades

rum dmc (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 February 2018 08:11 (six years ago) link

I came out in my dressing gown because why the fuck not


the vague noodbowski

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 February 2018 09:41 (six years ago) link

It has occurred to me that drinking too much and acting the dick is not really an "adventure". Not sure if that's buyer's remorse or an epiphany.

Big Ched aka The Cheesedriver (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 February 2018 11:18 (six years ago) link

When Parnell's Irish in the House
Pressed that the British Navy's cat-
O'-nine-tails be abolished, what
Shut against them? It was
Neither Irish nor English nor of that
Decade, but of the species.

Predictably, Parliament
Squared against the motion. As soon
Let the old school tie be rent
Off their necks, and give thanks, as see gone

No shame but a monument—

Trafalgar not better known.

`To discontinue it were as much
As ship not powder and cannonballs
But brandy and women' (Laughter). Hearing which
A witty profound Irishman calls
For a 'cat' into the House, and sits to watch
The gentry fingering its stained tails.

Whereupon . . .

quietly, unopposed,
The motion was passed.

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 February 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link

what i think i'm searching for - i won't say desperately, i'm far too listless for that - is a plan, a strategy, terms of reference. i don't know what i want to do next. not in the next hour, even. anyone can continue to exist, that doesn't seem hard, if anything taking the other option takes the effort. but existing alone isn't much of a motivation to do much more than lie on the settee, watch a movie, read a book. i look for clues in movies and books, look for clues in my own head, look for a plan. but there's nothing, meaning is nothing to me, things in themselves are just fine and meaning is a layer of ego we smear them with.

it's one of the reasons i go to the pub - it doesn't take any thinking about. the easy company of other people and steady intoxication is the most natural way of being alive i know. maybe i'll go out, maybe i won't. i've the beginnings of some kind of bug and a thick, dizzy head and it's cold inside and out. but going to the pub solves the problem of thinking.

god i want something and i have no fucking idea what it is.

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link

"existing alone" has more meanings than i noticed when i typed it out.

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link

NV articulating stuff I dont even want to contemplate

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, 23 February 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

sometimes i think if i could just stop contemplating then that would be better, but we're all stuck with it aren't we?

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link

i just watched Calvary, it was great, but i've got nothing clever to say about it.

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link

get high on life man

j., Friday, 23 February 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link

god i want something and i have no fucking idea what it is.


macaroni pie imo

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link

they can make pie out of macaroni now??!

j., Friday, 23 February 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link

it always already was a pie

mark s, Friday, 23 February 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link

like everything else

mark s, Friday, 23 February 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link

don't make me get me T-shirt motto

mark s, Friday, 23 February 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/mt1L1JE.jpg

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link

Put some macaroni cheese in a Yorkshire pudding and I'd eat it.

2018 has to be better (snoball), Friday, 23 February 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link

I'm waiting for Indus to open so I can order a doner tbh.

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

don't make me get me T-shirt motto


Is it a pie chart that just has one colour and the word "everything"?

scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 23 February 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

Or the word "pie" I guess. Same diff

scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 23 February 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link

strictly speaking that would not be a motto

mark s, Friday, 23 February 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

I thought motto was your cute nickname for j

scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 23 February 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link

it is now

mark s, Friday, 23 February 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link

I had a macaroni pie in Scotland on New Year's Day 2004 and I still dream about it tbh.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 23 February 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link

Good dream or bad?

scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 23 February 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

I've wanted one since I first heard of them

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link

When we had macaroni cheese growing up we often had a slice of bread & butter to go with it & made a wee sandwich

scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

Dildo but packaged marketing of masculinity style

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

You sure you wanted this thread?

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link

I mean it's plausible, sure.

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link

He was talking about my macaroni sandwich

scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link

Again, plausible.

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

enbb knows what’s up, high five

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

what i think i'm searching for - i won't say desperately, i'm far too listless for that - is a plan, a strategy, terms of reference. i don't know what i want to do next. not in the next hour, even. anyone can continue to exist, that doesn't seem hard, if anything taking the other option takes the effort. but existing alone isn't much of a motivation to do much more than lie on the settee, watch a movie, read a book. i look for clues in movies and books, look for clues in my own head, look for a plan. but there's nothing, meaning is nothing to me, things in themselves are just fine and meaning is a layer of ego we smear them with.

it's one of the reasons i go to the pub - it doesn't take any thinking about. the easy company of other people and steady intoxication is the most natural way of being alive i know. maybe i'll go out, maybe i won't. i've the beginnings of some kind of bug and a thick, dizzy head and it's cold inside and out. but going to the pub solves the problem of thinking.

god i want something and i have no fucking idea what it is.

― smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Friday, February 23, 2018 2:45 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

While I now just mostly crave macaroni pie too, this post has stayed with me today. No details, because an this is an open forum, but: I've always felt like the above, until a year or two ago, when I suddenly did find a meaning, a cause to fight for (or: it found me, but for clarity I'll just say I found it). I found it, it started flowing through my veins, became my oxygen, and I acted on it. Like a Don Quixote. What I fight for will in the foreseeable future cease to exist. It might survive me, or I might survive it: it's a coin toss, but in the long run this thing I am fighting for will end. Not in a 'everything will end' kind of way, but more in a: will I have to bury it, or will it be standing at my grave, sickly, lowering my casket. And I know how all this sounds but it helps to have something, however foolish, to fight for, to give you meaning. It gives this 'meaning' extra bonus points for heroism. I may be losing the war, but winning a battle feels pretty good.

And yet: I find myself at a point in life where having found purpose or meaning is seriously boomeranging back into my face. The frustration you feel, the indifference you face, all the endless hours spent thinking and organising and trying to wiggle your way in and trying to 'play' people to reach a certain goal, all for that greater good. It sure as hell keeps you away from the pub in the short run, because of the time it consumes, having found meaning or a goal all of a sudden. But in the long run: it's not sustainable, I'll crack under the weight of fighting for something considered by nearly everyone a lost cause already, frustration mounting...

Tl;dr: no meaning or purpose in your life is no good. But having one devouring your energy and time and dealing with the billion forces going against this purpose isn't a picnic either. Either way you'll end up in the pub, is what I'm realising.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 23 February 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

Jeez, way to cheer you up eh? Sorry abt that. Perchance the answer lies in "baby steps", moving from one meaningful goal to the next. Going for a walk, picking up the paper. Instead of the great nothingness of all or nothing.

(not really sorry, this is Blue Saturday after all. Laughs aside though NV I feel you and having seen the other extreme now, I'm still not satisfied. The soul is a lonely hunter)

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 23 February 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link

going to the pub solves the problem of thinking.

well said, this kinda nails it

brimstead, Friday, 23 February 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link

enbb knows what’s up, high five

― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, February 23, 2018 12:52 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:D

Wins - good. It was amazing.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link

LBI- strategy is a framework rather than an end goal

Big end goals are kinda idk I feel like setting them is a good way to have whatever version of god or fate u prefer to pick set u up as a punchline

nb I don't believe anything works out in the longer term the sweet spot for coping is to set up something you can have goals and structure around and make sure it's not anything you care about

Hi5

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link

Idle hands are the devils playthings
The devil lives deep down

calstars, Friday, 23 February 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link

Right on. Needed that deems 👊

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 23 February 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link

going to the pub solves the problem of thinking.

I realise that this isn't a healthy way of dealing with problems but it's the only thing that seems to work. Maybe not going to the pub as such, I'm not really one for going to the pub on my own unless there's bands playing or something, but getting drunk or at least on the way to drunk quiets down the thoughtworms because it gets them drunk as well. Combine with some weed and I can't keep a thought in my head long enough for it to twist into some kind of self-hatred. If only there were a way for it not to lead to morning-after regrets and the ever-present danger of addiction.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 23 February 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

Nah lbi keep chin up got to have better ppl than civil servants in the world guv

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link

Combine with some weed and I can't keep a thought in my head long enough for it to twist into some kind of self-hatred.


yeah, i know this feeling well and it’s v habit-forming

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link

tru tru. dat pension tho. you'll be power washing like there's no tomorrow when yr 67

xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 23 February 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

And I saying I don't have a dream. I feel foolish when you lay it down like that.

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

You'll smile, hose down your Tesla 3000 hovercar, till you blast clean your brothers bmx. Believe.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 23 February 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link

4. And now thus saith the Lord:
Though you as little endure the word levelling as you could the late slain or dead Charles (your forerunner, who is gone before you ―) and had as lief hear the devil named as hear of the Levellers (men-levellers) which is and who indeed are but shadows of most terrible, yet great and glorious good things to come.

5. Behold, behold, behold, I the eternal God, the Lord of Hosts who am that mighty leveller and coming (yea, even at the doors) to level in good earnest , to level to some purpose, to level with a witness, to level the hills with the valleys and to lay the mountains low.

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 March 2018 10:41 (six years ago) link

"Love me til my heart stops/Love me til I'm dead" used to kill me and it's gone, gone forever, dying alone on the sofa, so here's hoping I will not drown

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:55 (six years ago) link

when you think about wounding yourself bad enough so you don't have to go to work and/or listen to your own self-aggrandizing booshit

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

Tl;dr: no meaning or purpose in your life is no good. But having one devouring your energy and time and dealing with the billion forces going against this purpose isn't a picnic either. Either way you'll end up in the pub, is what I'm realising.

fuck it dude, let's just read montaigne

j., Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

I keep coming back to the conclusion that I've lived a wretched selfish shitlife and deserve to be miserable for what's left of it

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

keep it in here because all things considered my mental health has been reasonable-ish the last couple of weeks. but you can't escape blather. so many useless intrusive words.

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2018 09:16 (six years ago) link

maybe we should introduce school lessons on how to shut the fuck up and just be at peace

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2018 09:17 (six years ago) link

These sessions will focus on;
 How to conduct a job search
 How to market yourself
 CV writing
 Interview skills
 Competency based interviews
 Managing online profile

what if i don't want to market myself?

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 March 2018 09:24 (six years ago) link

card in a phone box or gtfo imo

just sat in a maths class having long complicated thoughts about teenagers, education, the cultivation of discipline, the possible intrinsic dickery of a sizeable proportion of human beings, my own relationship to all of this and to life and to what the point of anything is

primary conclusions were it's time to get out and i need to have a long deep meditate to work out where my head's aligned to the rest of humanity. secondary conclusions were a version of shrug emoji.

teenagers and classrooms will do this to you.

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:21 (six years ago) link

it knots together i guess, there's a self-centred willful stupidity and dickishness to others but then they're bored and lost and empty and why the hell is the universe making them sit there bored hour after hour anyway, perhaps nobody is expected to be a winner, perhaps they're the meat in a grinder that keeps turning to no purpose except the need to keep cranking its own handle

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:46 (six years ago) link

also tho teenagers are disgusting savages let it not be forgotten

the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:48 (six years ago) link

i am certainly not disavowing that possibility but to what extent are they innate savages and to what extent do they have savagery thrust upon them and is the savagery taught by the people who don't care about them or by the people who actually somehow think they're trying to make them better and then of course they're not all abject savages, there is a definite scale to this

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:50 (six years ago) link

i'm sticking to my line that teenage savagery greatly exacerbated by concentrating them all together in institutions esp when their parents engage in vicarious 60s cosplay

ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:55 (six years ago) link

actually the thought i keep returning to is that maybe in fact this is the smooth trundling of the best of all possible worlds and the only issue is me processing it thru a sick, jaded brain

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:58 (six years ago) link

xp Is this about the Thurman-Fiennes Avengers movie again?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 12:02 (six years ago) link

certainly thats the part i latched onto

unless he meant corbynism idk

the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 12:41 (six years ago) link

i was thinking maybe it was uniforms and other nostalgic mechanisms of control

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 12:43 (six years ago) link

right, school uniforms' performative anachronism is a good example of how childhood/youth is constructed by adults to fulfil their weird retrogressive fantasies

ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link

or alternatively a method by which kids are protected from the tyranny of consumer-culture oneupmanship

yeah cos they don't compare their phones or their shoes

imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

school uniform is no protection. it's bullshit

imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

dress codes are entirely ample

imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link

to be clear I'm not against school uniforms in general

ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:32 (six years ago) link

what would you say the case for their continuation is

imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link

remembering the anxiety of non uniform day at school

ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link

cheap functional uniforms are not a bad idea, just no fucking ties or hats or brass buttons or whatever

ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link

maybe. certainly no ties feels important

to add to nv's point btw, last week i was teaching four kids who'd been expelled from their school aged 13/14 for a drugs offence. they were happy to do the work as long as i let them piss around. a teacher of 30 years' experience also tutored them and apparently things deteriorated so quickly that they discontinued the entire arrangement over the weekend. one of them filmed footage of this man yelling at a kid, who was yelling back - finger pointing, threats etc. he'd made the cardinal error of calling the big bully kid a twat to his face, and underestimating the power of the quiet, mature-seeming machiavelli operator beside him

what lesson do we learn from this? idk but unless teenagers see the point in the work they're set then i can see them becoming, culturally at least, increasingly intransigent, and maybe that's a good thing. the education system needs a total overhaul and this can only accelerate it

the one thing these kids were doing that i hated was bullying the girl in the group, and i told them as much

imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

they were rich posho kids, yes, but i can see the intransigence becoming universal

imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link

yeah wherever the personal/social interplay lies i'm definitely not saying that the kids are just inherently fallen. the way we teach and what we teach is so much bullshit and its purpose is only to create malleable drones.

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link

well yes. it needs to change and nobody's seriously trying to change it

imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link

because society needs malleable drones!

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

itt a defence of the rights of posh kids to be cunts

the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link

lol yeah sure

i don't think anybody has "the right" to be a cunt, if rights are meaningful in non-legal contexts

on the other hand i think if you mistreat animals they tend to not be better behaved for it.

the questions are really about the most effective methods of either not creating terrible behaviour or of training people not to exhibit it if you think it's an original component of human nature.

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link

whether you could come up with answers to that without picking a side in the nurture/nature argument is an issue too i think

Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link

hmm fair

also an option to creating a system that works well for most and executes the other tbh

the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

my head's a gajillion miles away from here. i don't know what i want to do, yet.

as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 March 2018 11:33 (six years ago) link

struggle bowl

mookieproof, Monday, 19 March 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link

this morning filled with a great blue sadness reflecting the sky, like the dignified calm sadness of the universe, sadness at the immensity of the great work of time that's like a calm joy. so different to depression, i feel as functional as i wanna be, like i could fall up off the face of the earth and disappear into the blue above and that would be just great.

slightly wrecked by reaching the office and having to deal with my colleague's hyperactive chatter (to nobody) but never mind, not for much longer all being well. looking out the window and the blue's disappeared too.

still love Fridays.

Cambridge Metallica (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 March 2018 08:22 (six years ago) link

already slightly regretting my anti-drinking decision to leave tobacco and skins at home tho.

Cambridge Metallica (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 March 2018 08:23 (six years ago) link

Every night this week when I dream my past wives are flashing before my eyes

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 March 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

It's good they flash by instead of dragging by, lingering limply tbh.

I've a future past wife flashing before my eyes rn, and I very much wish it was a dream, but it's not. (hence this lame response 2U feeling like I can somehow relate...)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 30 March 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

It's the thought that counts bud

It just occurs to me that everybody in The Big Bang Theory bar Sheldon is a complete cunt

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:43 (six years ago) link

Took me a moment to stop wondering where on earth the 'the Big Bang Theory bar' is

kinder, Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:16 (six years ago) link

Every night this week when I dream my past wives are flashing before my eyes

― bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Friday, March 30, 2018 3:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this happens, fuck love

map, Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:20 (six years ago) link

dude I've been such a cunt, I deserve to die alone

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:24 (six years ago) link

OK I could tone down the swears, I blame my drinking buddies

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:26 (six years ago) link

assholes

map, Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:29 (six years ago) link

imagine Arab Strap jamming with the Bad Seeds after a wild night in some dive bar they’ll never find again. Think of a tighter Birthday Party reeling elegantly from chorus to verse yet smashing the furniture up in the process. Iggy struts and Jacques Brel drains the optics. Pure White Speed will keep you awake. And knock you out.

i've imagined it. fuck off.

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link

Is that a London band by any chance?

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 April 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

I have this theory that only bands from London ever try to look and sound like Nick Cave, they'd get laughed off the stage anywhere else.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

lol yes they are

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

It goes deeper. It cuts, it bleeds, it hurts, it soothes. It gives a sudden rush then introspection follows, it tells you to fuck off then wants you in its arms. It has poison on its lips but it makes the pain go away. Try it once. Then take it again.

what the actual fuck

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

oh man i switched off after the first paragraph.

i suppose it's good that there are things for middle-aged goths to do.

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

The Cesarians are not a pop band. They could never have been manufactured, manipulated or otherwise pre-masticated for public consumption.

NEVER!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link

The Cesarians are a magnificent triumph of the electric eclectic, a bunch of renegades who live on the river, tapping the source of London’s eternal energy.

Stick a fork in me NV I'm done.

;_;

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

Free yourself from the miasmas of the commonplace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOMJKl4DcFE

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

there are a lot of bad ideas, out there, in the world.

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

The Cesarians are a magnificent triumph of the electric eclectic, a bunch of renegades who live on the river, tapping the source of London’s eternal energy.

Fucking hell.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link

one of them plays a violin btw

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link

When 45 year old goths who work in London Music & Video Exchange shops have their last crack at the music biz, it isn't always a pretty sight.

calzino, Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

maybe should be grateful that somebody is living on the edge and blowing minds on our behalf

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

On the edge of a river, the river.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cff_RkcDxWA/maxresdefault.jpg

(^^ have this framed on my wall btw)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 08:47 (six years ago) link

(sorry for hueg, but he's really sad)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 08:47 (six years ago) link

now that's some sanpaku right there

but as i just said in the ant and dec thread i do feel bad for this guy, who clearly has some genuine problems beyond his control, and i hope he finds his feet again soon

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 09:05 (six years ago) link

i dunno why i'm on the DEFEND ANT train at the moment given that i don't think i've seen anything they've done since about 1998 but as celebs go he and dec seem pretty harmless

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link

I tend to agree.

There's a clear El Greco vibe to that photo btw

https://frieze.com/sites/default/files/on_view/exhibition_130_fullimagepath_el-greco-72dpi.jpg

Tim, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 09:15 (six years ago) link

20 years after his mysterious disappearance we have an artist's impression of what Ant McPartlin might look like now.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 09:27 (six years ago) link

he’s obviously had forehead reduction surgery in the intervening two decades then

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 09:39 (six years ago) link

He would do if he wanted to remain anonymous.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 09:44 (six years ago) link

but that's the first thing people would expect him to do - the smart thing to do would be to have forehead enlargement surgery instead

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 09:46 (six years ago) link

"Fuck a drink-driver" is the beginning and end of my engagement with this trending topic tbrr

scotti pruitti (wins), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 10:01 (six years ago) link

that's v sexually progressive of u

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 10:08 (six years ago) link

Byker I hardly know er

scotti pruitti (wins), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 10:10 (six years ago) link

let's get ready to fhumble

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 10:10 (six years ago) link

dammit i was gonna take some time off and leave Bas Jan Ader as my farewell and i've blown it already because of stupid book questions

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link

can't decide whether to go and work abroad or whether that is a terrifying idea that i will no way follow thru

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

actually booking a holiday on my own is a terrifying idea that i will no way follow thru

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

You've not been on a holiday on your own (for a long time)? Can strongly suggest doing so. Even if it's just across the canal.

Where's that laddy britpop cruise we've been on about?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link

I want to go on holiday, not drown meself in the middle of the North Sea

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link

some kind of freedom edging closer and closer plus sudden summer heat = serenity

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link

Yeah both should be decent uppers.

Wasn't serious about the cruise obv, but I was about the holiday. It gave me a real "fuck yeah I can do this"-feeling years ago after a break-up.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link

that's at least part of the plan.

serious about both possibilities, really. just starting to build myself up to them.

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

Do you have a place in mind (for either)?

The Rachel Supremacy (wins), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link

idly toying with the idea of teaching English in China maybe. doubt I'm somebody who could go off and do that, maybe a little solo holiday in Europe somewhere would be a practice run for getting away. I'm not gonna be loaded and I'm not paid off yet, so it's just pleasant daydream stage. I have decades of timid indolence to overcome, anyway

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link

holidaying solo is the best, even when you get alone with your thoughts and it feels too real it is also the freedom of being accountable to you and only you, I am a huge fan

boxedjoy, Thursday, 19 April 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link

I have an Uncle who was a survivor of 50's Irish Industrial School abuse who went back to Ireland to meet some fellow survivors, dressed as a Catholic priest with dog collar and all. A holiday can be anything you want it to be!

calzino, Thursday, 19 April 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

oh I really want to develop the skill, I'm just a long time entrenched in my dependency. doing this is very much part of my new life, better mental health plan

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

daft thing is I'm pretty comfortable in my own company, it's just pushing out of my comfort zone that's a freaky notion

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link

I don't know shit about holidays tbh. Not been on one in 8 years and always tended towards the rented caravan in Newquay model when I did.

calzino, Thursday, 19 April 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link

I was looking and I think it's cheaper to go to Majorca from Hull than it is to go to the west country

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

you are correct, holidays in Newquay are not cheap. Especially when you upgrade the caravan to a house. And if the weather is shit, you might as well be in Hull!

calzino, Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link

Lol I love Hull

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link

Didn't Roberto Bolano just fuck off to Spain and live in a cave by the beach for years? I might be making this up, but it sounds good on paper.

calzino, Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link

Contemplating the difference between paper and possibility is exactly where I'm at and it's a nice enough space to enjoy in itself as long as possible

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

Didn't Roberto Bolano just fuck off to Spain and live in a cave by the beach for years? I might be making this up, but it sounds good on paper.

― calzino, Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:54 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He did! (Blanes is sort of a giant cave anyway)

Bolaño moved to Europe in 1977, and finally made his way to Spain, where he married and settled on the Mediterranean coast near Barcelona, on the Costa Brava, working as a dishwasher, campground custodian, bellhop, and garbage collector. He worked by day and wrote at night. From 1981[16] to his death, he lived in the small Catalan beach town of Blanes.

NV, your daydream to teach English in China sounds hella cool btw.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 April 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link

real vivid sudden flash of "what might it be like to die"

yeah i'm Wally Whitman

Cortez the Self-Harmer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link

Today, I'm a 52 year old engineer with a very very difficult railroad client... they make me hate anything to do with railways, but REM restores my faith.

Cortez the Self-Harmer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

something better happen soon or it's gonna be too late to bring me back

Cortez the Self-Harmer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link

Something did happen. In amongst a two day binge and stupid overspending and excessively enthusiastic karaoke performance I met somebody pretty cool and...I don't know if I'll see her again. Left it up to her cos I don't want to be overbearing. Whole new way to feel confused and anxious and still alive all at once

la vache qui pleure (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

aww

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

You'll see her again, regardless of the how and why and when and where, you big softie. Embrace the confusion and anxiety imho, it is indeed what feeling alive is. It is being alive, that. And that is all.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

WUB

j., Sunday, 22 April 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link

i need to know what song was karaoked

<3

mookieproof, Sunday, 22 April 2018 04:10 (six years ago) link

I did Man on the Moon and then did Can't Feel My Face then a bunch of us formed a drunks' supergroup for I Want It That Way and then me and she did Wannabe, it was a good night

la vache qui pleure (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 April 2018 08:56 (six years ago) link

my man

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 April 2018 09:17 (six years ago) link

<3

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 April 2018 09:35 (six years ago) link

thought about starting a thread of random whimsy then realised this is probably it

lotta boring stuff on sna these last few days

songs by bands by Sondheim (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 08:01 (six years ago) link

So there was Mr. Jarvis, in the second week, in this hotel with no house party at all, and no one could speak English, except himself. He was very disappointed, too, with the ski-ing. It was some distance away at Giswil. There were no ordinary length skis. There were only mini-skis, about 3 ft. long. So he did not get his ski-ing as he wanted to. In the second week he did get some longer skis for a couple of days, but then, because of the boots, his feet got rubbed and he could not continue even with the long skis. So his ski-ing holiday, from his point of view, was pretty well ruined.

There were also no Swiss cakes, just crisps and little dry nut cakes. The "yodeler" was a local man who came in work clothes and sang four or five songs quickly. The "Alphütte Bar" was empty and only open one evening.

songs by bands by Sondheim (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 08:26 (six years ago) link

Speed Yodelling sounds like it could be a demonstration event at the next Winter Olympics.

2018 has to be better (snoball), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link

siiiiiiiigh antsily waiting for a text when i know the worry is really in my own head

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2018 10:44 (six years ago) link

never mind breathe deep get my head together shut up

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link

a credo for modern existence

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 4 May 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link

Can't not link this now.

Got my days wrong and ended up alone in a room with my boss and the President of Ireland while I was on ketamine. https://t.co/gSjPY8WjKL

— The Every Single Mention Reader (@shockproofbeats) May 3, 2018

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 4 May 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link

I can't top that, salute the magic.

I will say that as depression recedes and I decrease my meds every day feels like pingponging between uppers and downers.

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link

spending the first part of the lovely sunny bank holiday weekend getting fucked up listening to different versions of On Raglan Road.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 May 2018 09:17 (six years ago) link

best wishes all.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 May 2018 09:17 (six years ago) link

jumping out of the slough without really changing the mood by listening to Don’t Stand Me Down at top volume.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 May 2018 09:47 (six years ago) link

considering spending the rest of the weekend on a truly savage bender just to reaffirm my place in the world

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 10:00 (six years ago) link

i love Don't Stand Me Down, your plan is probably better Fizz

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 10:01 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3JFwd1bk4Q

but when she says "you" i'm sing "me" also it gets faster

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 10:03 (six years ago) link

Whew, but it is lovely outside! My feet keep wanting to take me to a pub, I have to remind myself it’s 11am and I have plans for the evening

type your stinkin prose off me, ur damned qwerty uiop (wins), Saturday, 5 May 2018 10:09 (six years ago) link

it looks beautiful out there. gonna float out into the blue.

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 10:13 (six years ago) link

also i fully love this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCXGJQYZ9JA

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 10:14 (six years ago) link

fp fizzles soz but cmon

.b derf (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:13 (six years ago) link

there is only one version of raglan rd

.b derf (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:14 (six years ago) link

Hey I used to live on Raglan St

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link

I say live

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:18 (six years ago) link

go lobby gerry rafferty son im not in

.b derf (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:18 (six years ago) link

It's fucking embarrassing, I'm tucked in the back of the concrete beer garden and I don't seem able to stop crying into my rioja and I really need to stop this shit before anybody else comes out and stumbles across me

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link

was gon' say "I could drink wine all day" but maybe I should mythbusters that shit

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:23 (six years ago) link

fp fizzles soz but cmon


i can take my punishment for transgression. anyway i only really knew the van morrison version growing up so i was scarred.

that line about tripping along the ledge by the deep ravine where can be seen the worth of passion pledged tho.

and hey nv hang in there, get thee to the bogs and splash your face with some water or something. then according to that vid you can go the full taylor swift for about eight hours. doing splits on cars in the rain in hull or whatever.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:25 (six years ago) link

I'm assuming if I can stay hid long enough to get this bottle down then that's totally what will happen

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:27 (six years ago) link

i mean i’ve got to go out for lunch with my mum now so think of the real suffering in the world.

(we get on well but DO NOT TOUCH POLITICS ALERT)

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:27 (six years ago) link

I feel you Fizzles i am truly grateful for my hapless freedom.

Talking to a guy in the late night pub this morning and suddenly he decided I was trying to buy coke off him and I wasn't but then I thought ok I like coke but then he didn't follow thru and I thought fuck it I'll go home

I really wish I had something pharmaceutical besides citalopram tho

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:31 (six years ago) link

that is maybe the best Twitter story I've ever seen tbh

imago, Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:32 (six years ago) link

Also I was thinking I will be a free man in not quite Paris in a month or so, maybe a London fap will be in orders

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:32 (six years ago) link

Huzzah! Hasn't been an ILB FAP in ages, was standing on the verge of suggesting one.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:51 (six years ago) link

aw ill be in san fran

.b derf (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:53 (six years ago) link

i say aw

.b derf (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:53 (six years ago) link

How you manage disingenuous without emojis is a constant source of respect for me

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link

In other cocaine related non-news my dear friend who's a barmaid here just told us she's spent half an hour unclogging the urinal cos it was full of empty baggies.

Human cost, kids, human cost.

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 12:12 (six years ago) link

Big fruit salady Pimms & lemonade, toddler in a Benny Hill hat and a couple of glasses of vino and my game face has returned, enjoying non-PC banter in the front bar now

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link

I know this is a non-judgy space but dude wyd drinking Rioja in this heat?! At least put some coke in that shit (and I’m not talking about the white stuff)!

type your stinkin prose off me, ur damned qwerty uiop (wins), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

(I should talk, I’ll be on the real ale later which is just as unseasonal)

The bus I was just on had a tyre burst quite spectacularly, p interesting for all the passengers to suddenly be viewing the world from a quite different angle to a half-second previously.

type your stinkin prose off me, ur damned qwerty uiop (wins), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link

I love tempranillo wines and rioja isn't a fave but it's the only one with them grapes tbh

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link

Akshully it's a bit of a mindfuck cos I've always found most tempranillo wines to be fruity and light and rioja is the opposite of that really. Anyway I've spaced it out with Pimms so

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link

tom d otm u better come to an ilb fap u dick. have often thought of a hull visit and just doorstepping you for a bottle of rioja and a straw each.

hope the day is panning out and u and taylor swift are tangoing in the bogs or something.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link

sometimes you just have to shake it off. anyway I'm reasonably serious as soon as my exploiters pay me off we shall fap

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link

twatted.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 May 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link

Getting higher than a motherfucker

Getting higher than a higher than a

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link

salud

type your stinkin prose off me, ur damned qwerty uiop (wins), Saturday, 5 May 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

u liv you poeples

thr trdt is silejnge

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 02:31 (six years ago) link

good night, sweet prince

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 6 May 2018 04:20 (six years ago) link

i read from A Season in Hell but i don't know what it's about

i thought i missed having crushes but i'm not so fucking sure about that now

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 11:47 (six years ago) link

the only rimbaud that really matters is played by sylvester stallone iirc

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 6 May 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link

Always liked the drumming in Crass tbh

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 May 2018 12:06 (six years ago) link

well somebody hit on me last night which was life-affirming but professionally unconscionable so i told him no

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link

WE GET IT TAYLOR YOU DID GYM AT HIGH SCHOOL STOP MAKING ME FEEL INFLEXIBLE DAMN IT

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link

in Tesco imagining slashing my wrists so vividly that my arms got all antsy and twitchy

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link

some minimum-wage schlub would have to clean up after you tho, at least put a tarp down first or something

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 6 May 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link

i was gonna wait til i got home man, just deciding whether to buy blades or not

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

i got olives instead

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link

- Olives eliminate excess cholesterol in the blood.

- Olives control blood pressure.

- Olives are a source of dietary fibre as an alternative to fruits and vegetables.

- Olives are a great source of Vitamin E

- Olives act as an antioxidant, protecting cells

- Olives reduce the effects of degenerative diseases like Alzheimer's, benign and malignant tumours, including less serious varicose veins and cavities

- Olives help prevent blood clots that could lead to a myocardial infarction or deep vein thrombosis (DVT)

- Olives protect cell membranes against diseases like cancer

- Olives are a great protection against anaemia

- Olives enhances fertility and reproductive system

- Olives play an important role in maintaining a healthy immune system, especially during oxidative stress and chronic viral diseases

- And just in case these benefits weren’t enough, they are also a great aphrodisiac.

- Olives are nutritious and rich in mineral content as sodium, potassium, magnesium, iron, phosphorus and iodine

- Olives provide essential vitamins and amino acids.

- Olives contain oleic acid, which has beneficial properties to protect the heart.

- Olives contain polyphenols, a natural chemical that reduce oxidative stress in the brain. So by eating a daily serving of olives helps improve your memory by up to 25%.

- Just one cup of olives is a great source of iron – 4.4mg.

- Eating olives can improve the appearance of wrinkles by 20% since they contain oleic acid, which keeps skin soft and healthy.

- By eating just 10 olives before a meal, you can reduce your appetite by up to 20%. This is because the monounsaturated fatty acids contained in olives slow down the digestion process and stimulate the hormone cholecystokinin, a hormone that sends messages of fullness to the brain.

- Not only does it do that, but it also helps your body to stimulate the production of adiponectin, a chemical that burns fat for up to five hours after ingestion.

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 6 May 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link

we're gonna need a bigger jar

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link

when you're sure somebody's made a drunky mistake and you do your best to give them every opportunity to graciously walk away from it and then you spend two weeks text talking because maybe they're into it but then it turns out you were a drunky mistake

I dunno, maybe it's good to be proved right. Haven't felt this much like a waste of DNA and organic molecules in a long time.

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link

sorry Noodle :(

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 6 May 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link

Crushes are good but that stinks your recent encounter has ended so disappointingly, NV.

I would like to visit Hull one day and see where my family lived.

tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 6 May 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

Thanks both of you.

Do you know which part of the city they came from rosemary?

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 May 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

ay nv

.b derf (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link

NV: I can find out. My mother's cousin took pictures when she went a few years ago. I know my great-grandfather went to I think Trinity School?

tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link

Find a way to combine crushes and olives; that may be the way through

calstars, Monday, 7 May 2018 01:03 (six years ago) link

"Drink, Macchabees!" he wailed: "drink these noxious potions, which contain thvilest and deadliest poisons!"

Good morning!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 May 2018 08:08 (six years ago) link

makes your average theme bar look like weak sauce

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 May 2018 08:14 (six years ago) link

seeing as you were quoting Rimbaud the other day is the "an oasis of horror in a desert of boredom" one of his? I remember it from 2666, could google it but can't be arsed and wanted an excuse to quote it cos it sounds dead cool.

calzino, Monday, 7 May 2018 11:50 (six years ago) link

new board descrip obv

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 7 May 2018 11:53 (six years ago) link

(also it was baudelaire according to professor google)

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 7 May 2018 11:55 (six years ago) link

"It is the hour to be drunken! to escape being the martyred slaves of time, be ceaselessly drunk. On wine, on poetry, or on virtue, as you wish."

I was with him until "poetry" :p

calzino, Monday, 7 May 2018 11:58 (six years ago) link

filthy limericks are poetry too iirc

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 7 May 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link

I'm on orange and mango juice and soda. Too much horror and boredom for this punter. Sunny days off are great but the problem is they're great for everybody, so shade and peace seem a bit off the menu. And they're playing fucking Midge Sure while I try to read.

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 May 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link

Nice work, spell check, you ducking dock.

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 May 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link

You made a bandname more reasonable! Great thread for you to start! ;)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 May 2018 13:00 (six years ago) link

Stupid thing is I'm hurt and sad over myself, I feel like a jackass. I can fuck my brain up this much over nothing, what chance have i got of making it as an adult, ever?

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 May 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link

I think you do alright as an adult, the weird gravities of attraction do weird things to the best.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 7 May 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link

In the interest of honesty: sometimes I am really dense and today that's good and I'm gonna drop it for good now.

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link

lol i just came because i thought i hadn't mentioned that you should definitely come to an ILB Fap if you're around London. Then i scrolled up and saw that i had, in fact, charmingly already suggested it would be nice if you were present.

Fizzles, Saturday, 12 May 2018 11:16 (six years ago) link

my finishing date has been officially set, as of June 1 i'll be a free and temporarily more pecunious man, so assuming i haven't succumbed to romantic mania by then i think at some point this summer it should happen

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 May 2018 12:17 (six years ago) link

now i'm going to the pub not because i don't know what else to do with myself while i hopefully wait for a text but because i don't know what else to do with myself on a Saturday afternoon full stop. i think the second is the better thing to tell meself.

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 May 2018 12:27 (six years ago) link

crowded slightly rowdy pubs on rainy saturday afternoons. <3

Fizzles, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link

I've been having beautifully trippy reminiscent conversations with beautifully trippy reminiscent friends and drinking at a decently steady pace and it's cured so much in my soul, for now, god bless/damn it

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

I've been having beautifully trippy reminiscent conversations with beautifully trippy reminiscent friends and drinking at a decently steady pace and it's cured so much in my soul, for now, god bless/damn it


that’s fantastic. warmed by that.

Fizzles, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link

i guess certainty is something, eventually.

:)

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 May 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link

There's an Eliot bit about forcing the issue to a point and I feel bad about doing it but I'm glad I did

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 May 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

For anybody who enjoyed Armstrong and Miller's work on Channel 4, it's absolutely pissing down

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 May 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

Oh my god.

type your stinkin prose off me, ur damned qwerty uiop (wins), Saturday, 12 May 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

People are going to get pissed on

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 May 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link

I got pissed on but not in the good way

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2018 11:39 (six years ago) link

1969 in the sunshine

She's into golden French toast

I'm over it thank Horus

1959 in the sunshine

eyeballs dry

The Beatles' Solo Deaths Poll (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link

i just want to be in love is that such a big fucking ask?

The Beatles' Solo Deaths Poll (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

On an unrelated note, miss you Branwell <3

The Beatles' Solo Deaths Poll (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link

just after waking up this morning found myself running thru the memories of all the people i've ever loved. weird how you can dredge memories that you'd forgotten were even there, when you apply yourself.

10 (working) days til Lift Off

The Beatles' Solo Deaths Poll (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 May 2018 07:21 (six years ago) link

whats happening there man

gneb farts (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2018 09:01 (six years ago) link

i have taken voluntary redundancy, i am going to spend the summer watching the World Cup and gathering my shit or possibly just casting it over a wider than usual area, leaving date is 31 May but since that's the middle of half term i effectively leave on the 25th. may join the Foreign Legion.

The Beatles' Solo Deaths Poll (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 May 2018 10:04 (six years ago) link

good man

gneb farts (darraghmac), Monday, 14 May 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link

congratulations. I hope that after the initial job-quitting high ends you don't make my mistake and succumb to The Fear, bc it always seems a foolish &tragic waste of some golden free time in hindsight

ogmor, Monday, 14 May 2018 10:17 (six years ago) link

i know myself well enough i hope to know that i could make an utter balls of this, but for a brief shining period at the moment my future's more in my own hands than i think i can ever remember, and i am not afraid of taking the challenge

plus i've got no ambition to speak of so how can things possibly go wrong?

The Beatles' Solo Deaths Poll (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 May 2018 10:20 (six years ago) link

hey fortune, that enough hostages for you?

The Beatles' Solo Deaths Poll (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 May 2018 10:21 (six years ago) link

don't believe the fear! last time I quit a job I spent a month cooped up inside not spending any money feeling awful abt my life choices and failure to apply for enough jobs and then I got a job I'd applied for just before I quit and it was like I'd taken a little self-flagellation sabbatical

ogmor, Monday, 14 May 2018 10:26 (six years ago) link

no ambition?! i'm expecting you to live and work in china in a couple of months tbf don't let me down.

but for a brief shining period at the moment my future's more in my own hands than i think i can ever remember, and i am not afraid of taking the challenge

my man

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 14 May 2018 10:35 (six years ago) link

may join the Foreign Legion.

But not before ILB FAP.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Monday, 14 May 2018 10:49 (six years ago) link

who knows? one may lead to the other

The Beatles' Solo Deaths Poll (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 May 2018 11:11 (six years ago) link

My mame is noodle v and I'm on a mission

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link

Oh brothers and sisters i had adventures. Tawdry, tawdry adventures.

There seems to be a lot of coke swilling around the streets at the moment.

I was told the other night that Hull is the only city in the country that's had zero requests for a street party and I nearly burst with civic pride.

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:13 (six years ago) link

today is one of them days where just 10 mins of vacuous BBC royal blather is enough to make me want to go into full effigy/flag burning mode.

calzino, Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:25 (six years ago) link

just turned on the tv and caught a glimpse of marcus mumford heading to the royal wedding

wonder is i can make an improvised explosive device and make it to the wedding before it's too late

الله أكبر BROTHER!

calzino, Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:28 (six years ago) link

there were points yesterday when i just had to tell myself i was cosplaying Bukowski to preserve my own sanity, one of them was when the woman i'd met the night before aged 20 years before my eyes, then when i found out she was still younger than i am, then when the first pub turned us away cos she's some kind of notorious, then when i was sat outside Primark with a broken plastic bag spilling shoplifted underwear all over the pavement and really kinda hoping she wasn't coming back

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:35 (six years ago) link

hoping i can find a pub today showing the wedding instead of boring old Magic Weekend rugby or the FA cup final, i was sat in one pissing myself at his mother's funeral so it only seems right

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:37 (six years ago) link

i know it's all bollocks but it's either this or some fucking Gang Gang Dance shit that i assumed was a Batcave era goth band

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:38 (six years ago) link

your post reminds me of an old work colleague friend who got caught trying to steal a load woman's underwear from BHS. He had been sectioned a couple of times and used to say: "the love-bomb is getting strong" when he was on a bad cycle. He was convinced Mark E Smith was out to get him and had wrote multiple songs about his plan to murder him and would often quote lyrics that proved this! Not that I'm inferring you are on a similar trajectory, the post just reminded me of poor old Graham with the stolen underwear!

calzino, Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link

it's ok i think i learned some lessons

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:29 (six years ago) link

Red, White and Blue Saturday amirite?

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:42 (six years ago) link

don't look at me, i voted guillotine

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:43 (six years ago) link

NV what is all this haha

imago, Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:44 (six years ago) link

there were points yesterday when i just had to tell myself i was cosplaying Bukowski to preserve my own sanity, one of them was when the woman i'd met the night before aged 20 years before my eyes, then when i found out she was still younger than i am, then when the first pub turned us away cos she's some kind of notorious, then when i was sat outside Primark with a broken plastic bag spilling shoplifted underwear all over the pavement and really kinda hoping she wasn't coming back


At least no one can ever say that you never lived

calstars, Saturday, 19 May 2018 12:56 (six years ago) link

panic marksie dream girl

laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 May 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link

lol v good

thought I was dying an hour ago but I think it's just the usual slow mo too many cigs not enough sleep panic attack

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:02 (six years ago) link

My Saturday is guaranteed not to be blue thanks to you, NV and calzino

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link

im a wedding out wesht itll be better than the other shite

laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:09 (six years ago) link

NV my heart swells 4 u

two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

I had a beer with breakfast while listening to Palace’s Days in the Wake. Ate some w33d chocolate for desert. It’s raining all day. Let’s see where this goes.

two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:23 (six years ago) link

I'm back in bed with my cpap mask on as a regulatory breathing aid and I've got one week of work left and I got my notice of how much redundancy pay I'm getting and things will be OK for a decent while as long as I lay off the psycho binges which I feel pretty comfortable about doing right now

Totally nailed Chris Isaak on the karaoke last night

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

church has 16 harry clarke windows which is a result

laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

contemplating putting into action my lifelong dream of getting HUME and KANT knuckle tattoos

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link

DO THAT

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

It will show future employers that I am committed to liberal enlightenment and dialectic

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:23 (six years ago) link

left hand for awakening blokes from their dogmatic slumber, right hand for PUTTING THEM BACK INTO ONE

j., Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link

What hurts more, a constant conjunction or a necessary connection?

jmm, Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link

what

laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:27 (six years ago) link

idk man

R.A. Lafferty, lover of the Russian queen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:31 (six years ago) link

the hell

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:33 (six years ago) link

Dennis Nilsen is looking smart these days!

calzino, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:42 (six years ago) link

Whenever there is a decline in righteousness and an increase in unrighteousness, O Arjun, at that time I manifest myself on earth.
To protect the righteous, to annihilate the wicked, and to reestablish the principles of dharma I appear on this earth, age after age.
Those who understand the divine nature of my birth and activities, O Arjun, upon leaving the body, do not have to take birth again, but come to my eternal abode.
Being freed from attachment, fear, and anger, becoming fully absorbed in me, and taking refuge in me, many persons in the past became purified by knowledge of me, and thus they attained my divine love.
In whatever way people surrender unto me, I reciprocate with them accordingly. Everyone follows my path, knowingly or unknowingly, O son of Pritha.
In this world, those desiring success in material activities worship the celestial gods, since material rewards manifest quickly.

R.A. Lafferty, lover of the Russian queen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:43 (six years ago) link

Is that an Alan Pardew lookalike?

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:50 (six years ago) link

allegedly

R.A. Lafferty, lover of the Russian queen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:51 (six years ago) link

Busy man, I'm sure.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 08:54 (six years ago) link

fergie would be surprisingly good if he sorted out the smile

laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 13:23 (six years ago) link

nose could be redder

R.A. Lafferty, lover of the Russian queen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

always been stuck out in the no-man's land between the freaks and the normies

R.A. Lafferty, lover of the Russian queen (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link

o hai, it me

just a sunshine wry observation. I think a lot of who I am is a history of chickening out when I get too close to one side or the other

R.A. Lafferty, lover of the Russian queen (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link

the big day??

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 May 2018 13:22 (six years ago) link

pubbed :/

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 June 2018 07:23 (six years ago) link

you can't wack a good 10 minutes loathing yrself in the mirror

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 June 2018 11:52 (six years ago) link

36 hours kids. I really don't know what I'm trying to get out of my system but I wish it would get out already.

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 June 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

and another day twitching like fuck, thinking I'm gonna have a heart attack or a brain haemmorage, everything that was funny yesterday turned to a rotten mouth full of ash, 40 years of self hate, afraid of dying the painful way, totally alone

the Messi inside (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 June 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link

Hannah was explaining to me who Kate Spade was the other day because I'm ignorant and old, and her and now Bourdain this week have really struck something in me. Too much horror, the darkness always way too close. This will pass, but I can't believe how hard it is to get better and to change.

the Messi inside (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgh

something about families, militant normalcy, the kind of daytime tv shows that celebrate same, the friends i've slipped away from while i was in the throes of depression, the uncaring glacial pressure of my situation in the world, the guilt of jibbing against duty, can't list all this or express it, boils down to the sick joke of imagining my life might be my own

i dunno

feel quite calm and clear and functional and committed to sobriety still but god what do i do without turning my back on people

i dunno

VAR VAR Rasputin (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link

Generally coming to the conclusion that overthinking is the root of all my woes... but to abandon overthinking and just stop worrying just feels like self-annihilation.

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:10 (five years ago) link

It's hard, this stuff innit.

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link

xp seems a strange conclusion but i mean this stuff is tied to the intensely personal so

tired culché (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:12 (five years ago) link

nah overthinking is 100% the devil. everyone is so focused on hammering the oblivious it's bleak for the overthinkers and v hard to build up habits of stopping agonising and just getting on with it. just doing things is always either nearly effortless or basically impossible, all this shit about effort and trying really hard is completely offtm

ogmor, Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:22 (five years ago) link

you have to take advantage of productive moods when they hit. remember coming home at 5am coming down off mushrooms and really drunk once and ringing up the bank to sort out all the financial shit I couldn't face for weeks bc I knew it was then or never

ogmor, Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:24 (five years ago) link

holy shit jeffrey archer is an ilxor

tired culché (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:31 (five years ago) link

i should stress that this story is not at all representative, i'm not that type of player

ogmor, Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:35 (five years ago) link

there's a zen kind of "don't overthink" which is good and feels good and applies to lots of life but sometimes there's a "don't overthink" which feels like an exhortation to not think at all and i don't believe in it

tbf i'm overthinking right now as i always do when i'm at my mom's and it feels like being 17 and stuck and stifled and really i just need to live in the moment until i'm back home and able to start doing things and making decisions

VAR VAR Rasputin (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link

xp well, you have to get on with things and not overthink them (NB I'm not at all good at this) but you also have to be able to work at things when those mercurial bolts of inspired productivity are just not happening (alas I am even worse at this), which perhaps is a different kind of thinking and getting on with - maybe even polar opposites, mortal enemies - but sometimes your brain refuses to acknowledge the difference

overthinking is so seductive though; if you try to turn it off it will tell you that you are missing valuable thoughts, that all this shit is a convoluted many-layered puzzle just for you, and if you don't work your way through it you could be missing your only chance to understand, to save yourself

(this is not true, there is nothing inside the puzzle except more puzzles and more self-loathing and more wasted time - ah, but how can I be sure?)

or that if you're not thinking thoughts then everyone else is and some of those thoughts might be about how bad you are for not thinking thoughts, especially thoughts about how bad you are and how you're not keeping up with their thinking rate

(this is hopefully also not true, most other people are just blundering through and are probably either too oblivious or too wrapped up in their own many-layered puzzles to think about you)

I fear I have veered quite far from what NV was talking about but that otm too, sending my best wishes <3

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

i just got hit with a subtle subtextual blast of "don't abandon us, don't do anything odd" against a background of shitty family values "charity builders"/"let's live in Australia" docs and i had to howl somewhere just for a minute

VAR VAR Rasputin (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

I had a post, it was ugly, early morning isn't, too many words I. The world, gurgle of water and stripes of cirrus, out

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 June 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link

Was with some Welsh, Irish and Scottish ppl yesterday, showing them around. Met a Welsh man who's been a Wolves fan all his life (he's sort of bouncing back and forth between being wary of and excited about the Mendes project).

He said The Great Western in W'ton, near the train station, is the best pub in the world. Can you conform this y/n?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 22 June 2018 09:24 (five years ago) link

I am aware of it but I've never been in it.

The Savic Detectives (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 June 2018 09:48 (five years ago) link

i haven't smoked since last Thursday, i'm trying v hard to lay off the booze...i've got nothing to wash away this vast sump of sadness with, damnit

Neymar, Mr Nice Guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 09:38 (five years ago) link

good man anyway

What about whatchamacallit, football

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

that’s a weird way to spell ‘masturbation’

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:39 (five years ago) link

Went for a walk into town, bumped into a friend, we had coffee and chat in some deck chairs outside a caff in Queen's Gardens. Afterwards in the space where the pub was whispering at me I bought a couple of games and some snacky food and am on my way home to behave. Even the coffee triggers little anxiety bubbles tho.

Neymar, Mr Nice Guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link

international football to one side - because that's really just joeks, aesthetic posturing and the ball-rolling game alluded to by Mencap elsewhere - there's nothing new or remarkable or unexpected about being disgusted and exhausted by your birth nation. it's been happening to people since the notion of nations first appeared, whole boatloads of malcontents getting the fuck out of home and sailing off to make their own dystopia somewhere else. right now mine is probably made up of self-loathing and hatred of family and mundane expressions of culture and more misanthropy than i think is good but it's ok, it's ok to feel out of place and tired of other people's bullshit orbiting around the dense pointlessness of yr own. at least i'm lucid, it'll pass, Shangri-La isn't out there, we remember to look back at our feet and not upset ourselves dreaming beyond them.

Neymar, Mr Nice Guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague) wrote this on thread Blue Saturday on board I Love Everything on 23-Feb-2018

i just watched Calvary, it was great, but i've got nothing clever to say about it.

right you

get the fuck back in here and defend this

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

which bit? it's an entertaining movie but that might be the most of it

Jules Rimet still leaving (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

thought it was pseudo deep and apart from main role and performance was poorly written and poorly performed

"great" fair enough i wont hold u to that

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

Agree with that really, tho I enjoyed most of the main cast and obv Gleeson can do no wrong. Think we've discussed the shallowness of both brothers before, I can't decide if they fail at what they set out to do or if you're just meant to enjoy the language at surface level and not worry about content.

Jules Rimet still leaving (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link

Plus I was probably gloomily receptive to the mood, god knows I usually am.

Jules Rimet still leaving (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

oh hes a long way off his brother, who is at best a very enjoyable dialogue, big theme and empty but stylish character writer

this guy is a looong way off that. second only to ben elton in overwritten dialogue tho tbf in this gleesons is a very well written one. frankly suspect it was re-engineered by himself tbh.

i apologise all day for martins excesses up til billboards.

the two of them would want to stay away from themes for a while, they havent the heft

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

trying on shirts in a 3-mirrored fitting room this morning, surrounded with the landslide bulk of myself, i swear i nearly bust out crying or came home to lock myself away forever

diarrhoea of a blimpy kid (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link

been there.

there are ppl want to have sex like that, wtf

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:02 (five years ago) link

they are maybe more aesthetically pleasing than me idk

diarrhoea of a blimpy kid (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link

it was the alien nature of the desire that struck me, even so

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link

l'ecrivain is one of Dublin's posh restaurants (rather living offve it now imo) and their downstairs wc is set up four walls like this

that was a shock tbh

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link

mirrors are disorienting at the best of times, i have no idea why some posh bars/restaurants think bathrooms are the ideal place to induce psychic breakdown

diarrhoea of a blimpy kid (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link

I don't even like accidentally catching my vague silhouette in reflective surfaces, mirrors are full torture!

calzino, Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:50 (five years ago) link

Hannah Bedworth with the Gershwin classic The Man I Love. pic.twitter.com/ShWuLXYhHi

— Hull Music Hub (@HullMusicHub) July 19, 2018

<3

diarrhoea of a blimpy kid (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 July 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link

awesome

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 19 July 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

mighty!

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Friday, 20 July 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link

I picked a silly weekend to reach a personal crisis but maybe that's part of the point. Sitting in the middle of a festival campsite enjoying the calm early morning sky and its underlying ripples of conversations and dance music off in the distance, birds cawing, tide of sound at low ebb.

I'm OK - 2 weeks with no more than 3 or 4 cigs and them a week and a while ago, a sudden realignment of my brain into weird areas of knowing when I don't want a drink, the hint of knowing how I need to get my shit together that might just beat out my regular inertia. I'm hitting a change that feels positive.

But I need to put it on hold until after this weekend's over, especially so I don't be the cloud across my friends's sunny day. I felt crushingly overwhelmingly alone in the middle of a crowded field last night and somehow I am alone - a somehow of my own making over decades, that I mightn't ever be able to undo. And I'm not sure on balance I haven't chosen it cos it's easiest or most comfortable.

Anyway my head's racing way too much and my self-criticism is running crazy but somehow it's OK. I'm blue but I'm not frozen. I dunno. I needed to write this out and it's not what I wanted to say but I have very strong urges to shut up, maybe for a long time. Absolutely mumbling to myself right now.

diarrhoea of a blimpy kid (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 July 2018 05:15 (five years ago) link

could take orders

j., Saturday, 21 July 2018 06:45 (five years ago) link

not the first time I've daydreamed about that

diarrhoea of a blimpy kid (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 July 2018 08:12 (five years ago) link

maturity is when you turn your dejected apathy into a 12-hour Persona sesh rather than a 12-hour pub sesh

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link

flash of insight - loving techno doesn't mean i enjoy being in clubs feeling old and fat and unhealthy and an object of faint ridicule

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 August 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link

ime the best club nights have plenty of old and fat and unhealthy ppl & everyone is ridiculous. the exceptions that prove the rule, i suppose

ogmor, Sunday, 5 August 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

I would hate anybody who spoke about other people the way I speak to myself in my head but lol, inner voices

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 August 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link

yeah, and the cycle of hating yrself for yr hatred and so on. anyway yr smarter and cooler and more dashing than the clueless kids who have stumbled in & lots of them are just as miserable and self-loathing as their elders

ogmor, Sunday, 5 August 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

Typed out a long whiny reply, pressed the wrong bit of the phone, lost it. Probably for the best.

Thanks ogmor :)

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 August 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link

too much spoils it but just a little self-loathing is the sour note that really brings a dancefloor to life

ogmor, Sunday, 5 August 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

:D

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 August 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

This afternoon could go on forever

calstars, Sunday, 5 August 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I spent a fuckton on rum and bandits yesterday, I started smoking again, I can't get it together to fill out a job application without freaking out, every cunt wants me to have a licence and a car anyway, I'm struggling to cope with the demands of day to day living, nobody writes to this colonel. and I've got a twitching hangover. gah, 50 fucking years of snowflake uselessness.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 11:36 (five years ago) link

smoking makes people look cooler, it's been proven

j., Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

you should adopt a means of mobility other than a car. i suggest push-scooter but ymmv

imago, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

also why the fuck would a potential employer care about what i was doing in the mid 90s?

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

Hannah Bedworth with the Gershwin classic The Man I Love.

DIDN'T SEE THIS, OMG. Love that song, and she killed it! When did she get so PERSON-Y?? Isn't she still 5, etc etc #olds

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

xp spiritual crucible for many

j., Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

thanks io :) she got full marks in her musical theatre exams too, time's in such a hurry huh?

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

when you can't kill yourself cos the house is a mess

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 September 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

gloomy day getting nothing done -- one paragraph tinkered with, knowing there's something off abt the whole long piece -- but mostly stuck feeling the best is past and the good ones are gone

mark s, Saturday, 15 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

goofing at the table
You just don’t know
What don’t I know
How good this ham and eggs is
If you had any idea whatsoever how good this is you would stop writing poetry and dig in

calstars, Saturday, 15 September 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

Autumn kicking in. I dunno, the best might well be past but that sense of "this is how the future is" is always a fake foresight.

every day there's a whining choad (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 September 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

also the piece i'm writing is abt someone who died

mark s, Saturday, 15 September 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

all my stuff is packed up in boxes and the house is depressing and I'm spending too much on takeaway
and also I never get any sleep

kinder, Saturday, 15 September 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

i'm not properly blue because it's all for the good but I feel it

kinder, Saturday, 15 September 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the romance of places where I am not

ogmor, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 10:01 (five years ago) link

oh yes totally

Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link

where i am not was, there i am there shall be

shall have been

still working on this one

j., Wednesday, 3 October 2018 07:05 (five years ago) link

the crushing sadness of pedestrian things one needs to do in order to stay alive

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

I started into a long post last night then gave it up. I was talking to somebody yesterday about unnameable, never far away sadness. I think it might be the sadness of existing.

It's not the only feeling, but it waits for you at night, when you're alone, sometimes even in the middle of a crowd of people who feel maddeningly not quite in reach. I'm deep into it at the moment, bounded by feelings of unreality, inertia, utter isolation. But I think everybody knows this space. I think it's always at the threshold of our experience.

It's less painful or scary than the panic of anxiety tbh, my ongoing tumble towards not even being able to do the pedestrian stuff to stay - maybe not alive, but independent. But it makes it hard to know what to do next or how to escape. It feels like very slowly fading away. I wonder how many millions of people are fading the same way right now, dull little candles just out of one another's site.

It's ok, I think this is what life is.

Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

I think it might be the sadness of existing.

It must be. I mean I need it to be this. For it crawls into every crack, the very tiniest. It washes over me, dyes my dying days, it's in the sky, the water, the rain, the sun, the oxygen... It's in doing fucking grocery shopping, it's in getting up in the morning, it's in having a good shag but straight after, it's in how we tie and relate to our loved ones. It is everywhere. I need it to be part of existing, because if it's not, it's... just me.

The crushing sadness is like radio static, the test screen on the tube. Most people *alive* will be sleeping when it airs, only some will hear or see it. But it's there. Yes, at night. Mostly at night, though that's hardly a consolation when the night rules over your day.

I think millions of people are fading away in the exact same eloquent way you put it. It's ok, it is what life is, I agree, but on the other hand: It shouldn't have to be this way. Why does it have to be this way?

(It's only Thursday, I'm duly aware, but I've a nagging suspicion the blue will still be here come Saturday)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

emo post

Ross, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

sometimes even in the middle of a crowd of people who feel maddeningly not quite in reach.

There's a little scene in the first or second episode of Maniac on Netflix where there's a guy surrounded by friends at a table in a diner and he's telling a fun/funny story and he suddenly realises no-one gives a shit then they're all almost imperceptibly further away from him and he's trying to smile and finish his sentence but it's as dead and pointless as he is.

It's the most relatable part of the show so far.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 14 October 2018 23:56 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Deep blue Saturday in the pub with a bottle of red and my angry Brexit mates

Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 November 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link

Late at night lately when I make myself stop playing Persona I just lie in front of the TV auditing my failure as a father and a human being. It passes in the morning tho.

Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 November 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link

Akshully just yarning thru the nature of patience and the comfort of human chatter is as good a medicine as there is, bar the payback of the inevitable comedown

Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 November 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link

do you wear one of those green visors during your audits

j., Saturday, 17 November 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

That might help!

I am a failure of a human, no request for cuddles or perspective wanted

Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 November 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

Cheers brah man dude

calstars, Saturday, 17 November 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link

Love your posts cals

Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 November 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

Feel at the epicentre of a vast nullity and willfully refusing to do a thing about it. Click click shuck bing.

Mama Weer All Tankee Now (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 November 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I just need to clear my remaining debts so I can die

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 December 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link

well

yeah

gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 December 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

hey, it's a gesture towards responsibility

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 December 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link

i was more recognising it tbh

gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 December 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

at least in them days Walkers Crisps weren't getting bummed by Lineker! I was looking at an old pic from October '78 of me + bro in garden with dog, and that world seems so distant now - I literally feel like some embalmed relic.

calzino, Saturday, 26 January 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link

my cousin shared this, there's always a shock. there's a Larkin poem where he talks about "lately I've caught myself saying '30 years ago'" or words to that effect, that rattles around my head a lot lately

Sarri, Sarri, pride of our alley (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 January 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link

Is that you in the striped tie? That tie (and that facial expression) are awesome.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 26 January 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link

No, that's my little brother. I'm holding the football on the right with an equally awesome expression.

unexplained drinking injuries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 January 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link

A+ jacket!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 26 January 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link

great top. great photo.

Fizzles, Saturday, 26 January 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

Thanks!

Incidentally, that's my sister to the right of my brother. They're twins.

unexplained drinking injuries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 January 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link

What a bunch of beautiful small people!

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Saturday, 26 January 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Beautifyl

Of course if you're thinking about going to the pub, you're over-thinking

Stephen Yakkety-Yaxley-Rosbif (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 11:03 (five years ago) link

There are days when one feels cool and almost outside yourself, resigned to life as exile but at peace with your friends and neighbours and loved ones who you inevitably fail, as they fail you, try as we all might, and at peace with the love of friends and loved ones, each of us brittly together and apart all at once, and it's OK, and the sunlight is OK.

See me in mi heels an' tinge (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 February 2019 09:52 (five years ago) link

spurs to hammer burnley too

cristiano ornaldo (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2019 10:00 (five years ago) link

Would be entirely acceptable

See me in mi heels an' tinge (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 February 2019 10:17 (five years ago) link

unseasonably mild and sunny weather had me thinking of mid-afternoon drinking, but friend i got in touch with is away and gf up to other stuff and it’s all feeling a bit hemmed in and spurs 1 burnley 1 at the moment.

Fizzles, Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link

xps or yknow not

cristiano ornaldo (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link

lol where are u watchin it fizzles

cristiano ornaldo (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link

At work, counting down last 45 mins then going home to shave the beard off, don a Hawaiian shirt and pastel blue sports jacket and attend a birthday party

See me in mi heels an' tinge (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:21 (five years ago) link

i’m trying to do *writing* so just following it on the mbm. i approve of the Noodle attire. think i’m going to knock this fairly abortive session on the head and go and get a glass of wine in the sun like a colossal prick, maybe even take some poetry with me for added effect.

a line from a poem, “all the flowers of the heart turn to ice flowers”, itself a lift from Kierkegaard’s diaries, has been running round my head and has confused itself with Petrarch’s line “in a net I gather the breeze and in the ice flowers” and now i want to read Petrarch which is what put the idea of reading poetry in my head. it’s a confusion tho because its predominant meaning is “and in ice i gather flowers”, tho i’m assuming the ambiguity here indicates a pun.

still, the reason i’m maundering so is the original eberhart poem seems v blue saturday:

"Mysticism Has Not the Patience to Wait for God's Revelation"
Kierkegaard

But to reach the Archimedean point
Was all my steadfastness;
The disjointed times to teach
Courage from what is dreadful.

It was the glimpses in the lightning
Made me a sage, but made me say
No word to make another fight,
My own fighting heart full of dismay.

Spirit, soul, and fire are reached!
And springs of the mind, like springs of the feet
Tell all, all know, nothing wavers there!
All the flowers of the heart turn to ice-flowers,

Heaviness of the world prevailing
("The higher we go the more terrible it is")
Duplicity of man, heart-hate,
The hypocrite, the vain, the whipper, the cheat,

The eternal ape on the leash,
Drawing us down to faith,
Which the Greeks call divine folly,
The tug of laughter and of irony.

Fizzles, Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:35 (five years ago) link

2-1 wtf

Fizzles, Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link

im sure ive posted it a dozen times but the quintessential blue saturday poem for me is kinsella:

The day dawns, with scent of must and rain,
Of opened soil, dark trees, dry bedroom air.
Under the fading lamp, half dressed - my brain
Idling on some compulsive fantasy -
I towel my shaven jaw and stop, and stare,
Riveted by a dark exhausted eye,
A dry downturning mouth.

It seems again that it is time to learn,
In this untiring, crumbling place of growth
To which, for the time being, I return.
Now plainly in the mirror of my soul
I read that I have looked my last on youth
And little more; for they are not made whole
That reach the age of Christ.

Below my window the wakening trees,
Hacked clean for better bearing, stand defaced
Suffering their brute necessities;
And how should the flesh not quail, that span for span
Is mutilated more? In slow distaste
I fold my towel with what grace I can,
Not young, and not renewable, but man.

poch out

cristiano ornaldo (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link

look at that fucking rhyming scheme tho

if our back line was half that tight

cristiano ornaldo (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link

Walking down Holderness Road this morning and we suddenly heard piano music out of nowhere, genuinely magical and weird, there was an old guy outside a cafe playing a charity piano sesh busking old 30s/musical hall-ish numbers, it was engagingly Hull.

See me in mi heels an' tinge (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link

look at that fucking rhyming scheme tho

if our back line was half that tight


if you feel the tug of laughter and of irony, fucking go down, certain pen.

Fizzles, Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:48 (five years ago) link

there’s the odd pub in london where you can be walking down an alley and hear piano coming from the open doors and damn if there’s anything more evocative, half jaunty and humourously *there* half bygone and insubstantial.

Fizzles, Saturday, 23 February 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link

Yeah it came right out of the mood of the weather and the day

See me in mi heels an' tinge (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 February 2019 15:07 (five years ago) link

Aaaah god I don't wanna be alive and sober.

Not that I'm doing well at either.

See me in mi heels an' tinge (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Stood bar-propping achy and wrong day but too much rubble in my head and have to build a shelter of something

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:01 (five years ago) link

hi there

place worse without you

worse without everyone rly*

*within reason

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:15 (five years ago) link

place is doldrumy nicht war?

Probably not best-placed man to blow those away right now, but give it a couple of pints :D

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:18 (five years ago) link

couldn't poss encourage you in yr vices obv but please god come back roaring in a few yes

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:19 (five years ago) link

so many threads to post "i wish i was dead" on

i wish i aa

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 09:58 (five years ago) link

was dead

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 09:58 (five years ago) link

Hitler documentaries und wishing i was dead

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 10:01 (five years ago) link

love u boo

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 24 March 2019 10:11 (five years ago) link

*emoji for wan teary grateful half-smile*

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 10:14 (five years ago) link

Lol trailer for "Hitler's Most Wanted" seemingly presented by some blond beastly looking motherfucker

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 10:17 (five years ago) link

Fuck's sake cunts keep saying "lebensraum" with an ee sound

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 10:53 (five years ago) link

that piece from Ein Deutsches Requiem on the intro to nazis: a warning from history is really powerful, but also sort eerily chest pumping nationalist marching music.

calzino, Sunday, 24 March 2019 10:58 (five years ago) link

Nazis were all about the emotional frisson isn't it unless you stopped to think for two seconds or were already a racist cunt with barely-suppressed murder urges which unfortunately yadda yadda

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 11:04 (five years ago) link

Think I'm gonna keep drinking until organs shut down feels like a plan of sorts

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 11:50 (five years ago) link

also gonna keep sticking "For What's It Worth" on the Secret DJ because a) why the fuck not? b) pingy guitar noise c) International breaks are the scourge of a godless fuckiverse

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 11:59 (five years ago) link

throw in he got game every fourth spin imo

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 March 2019 12:36 (five years ago) link

Good call

Helel Cool J (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 13:06 (five years ago) link

Dit's cd

I wwishi was dead

J Masctits (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link

hang in there tho, eh.

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

still love u boo

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:15 (five years ago) link

Stay with us & talk to us NV.

gyac, Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:15 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just seen a back garden union jack sun-bleached to the point of having quite a lot of black in it

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 08:34 (five years ago) link

makes u think

TV presenter and animal lover, Matt Baker (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 08:37 (five years ago) link

it might be nature's way of saying "allahu akbar! you imperialist infidel scum!"

calzino, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 08:56 (five years ago) link

maybe it's different in other countries but when i see back garden flags they almost never look like symbols of pride but more like symbols of paranoid aggression, plus grubby and weather-worn usually

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 09:52 (five years ago) link

not that i care much. the blue of this flag had become strikingly, comically black, and i'm in full disconnected daydream mode, and here felt like as good as anywhere to mark the moment.

i sort of want to ramble externally to try and clarify the swirl of nebulous sadness inside me but eh, i don't know, and it probably won't be less nebulous the more i throw imprecise words at it. my evanescence must be indistinguishable from lazy helplessness from the outside. i do want to live but i don't know that i can carry on living like this, and i don't think the world outside me cares to offer alternatives. like some side plot character out of a Victorian novel who ends up too effete to deal with the necessities of survival and just fades away, or pops.

i don't know where this vast gentle pretty sadness that i float in comes from, i just think i prefer contemplating it to any alternative i can envision.

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 10:04 (five years ago) link

Just paused in Huddersfield station with half a bottle of Malbec to keep me going on the way home. Hi calz!

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:21 (five years ago) link

passing through "the big city" eh? Howdo!

calzino, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:24 (five years ago) link

even though I'm pure Heavy Woolen District* these days!

* well sounds better than saying ..erm somewhere near Dewsbury.

calzino, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link

or as it is these days The Heavy Drinking, Bed Manufacturing and Karen Matthews district

calzino, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

Train line from Manchester to Leeds is one of my favourite vistas tbf

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link

once you get past Stalybridge and into those ancient moors it is rather beautiful.

calzino, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link

or was Staly bridge after? I've not been transpennining for a couple of years!

calzino, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:35 (five years ago) link

City of Manchester stadium is a fucking eyesore.

calzino, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:36 (five years ago) link

Xxp Yeah except the inevitable tunnels

(this post delayed by huge tunnel)

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:36 (five years ago) link

I mean i like Leeds to Hull stretch for all sorts of reasons too but it lacks the drama

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link

Now Live from Leeds

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:41 (five years ago) link

If it is a windy day on Saddleworth Moor, you need ear defenders as well as anvils tied to yr feet. Seriously.

Leeds is just the vulgar epitome of ugly fucking mediocre bigness.

calzino, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:48 (five years ago) link

Yeah, thru now. Homeward stretch.

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

i do want to live but i don't know that i can carry on living like this, and i don't think the world outside me cares to offer alternatives.

well that got lol worse.

95 percent of my brain is screaming for the pub and i'm not sure why i'm resisting. i will end up not resisting. maybe. long as i can keep prevaricating, that's something.

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

just had a work leaving do coffee break for a fella who im not mad on but is alright- for some reason (well hes been promoted so thats prob it) the established timeservers (numbering the better half of the unit) have staged a no-show and between now and five pm promises to kick off properly

if you stay in ill keep the thread updated

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 30 August 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link

expectation range: anywhere between uncommenting seethes but non-event to a warriors remake, in one room, costumed by primark

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:01 (four years ago) link

that is tempting. i'm currently hanging in by waiting for the UEFA draw. i've half a bottle of corner shop Rosé in the fridge so i am really fighting this one out like a trooper considering the only reason not to drink is so i can imagine that i'm not making a future that looks unimaginably blank and meaningless any worse, at the expense of making the next few hours feel considerably better tbh. i mean ugh.

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link

ok the endless fucking intro to this draw is sorely testing my resolve

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

im the same but with wine gums

is there such a thing as rosé gums. youd say not but i got a pint of rosé cider last night wtf

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:05 (four years ago) link

keep it quiet but wine gums don't actually taste of wine

would definitely drink rosé cider, nay *will* definitely drink rosé cider at some point

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link

they make it with the red apples, right?

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link

blimey it's Cashley

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link

I have some gin and tonic gums (shaped like cola bottle sweets but a pale yellowish colour instead of cola-coloured)

they are not very nice and don't really taste of gin and/or tonic, just v acidic with maybe the slightest tang of quinine or some unidentified unpleasant flavour that the novice gin home-brewer might optimistically declare a "botanical", but if I can work the "upload physical matter to ILX" button I'll share them round

I also had a "rosé" Kopparberg last night which tasted mainly sweet and not of any particular fruit, but I know cider purists won't regard that as a cider

best wishes NV, psyched for the Primarkopalypse updates deems

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 30 August 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link

i've had Prosecco gums before, they didn't taste of owt either. i am the least purist drinker in the world but Kopparberg is generally way too sweet for my preference

hopefully darragh will fill us in on the aggro anyway because there's no way i'm not off the wagon in the next hour or two

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link

just occured to me i could probably have watched this in the pub

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

teams from Russia and Ukraine can't be drawn in the same group, nbd, nothing to see here

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link

irony is my mental health's been so bad lately i haven't been able to watch the last couple of Wolves games, it makes my anxiety too twitchy :(

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:22 (four years ago) link

update hes making a dash for it

flanking him cos thats what the union would want

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link

process of elimination we've got Braga and Besiktas, that's a spicy meatball

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link

dude at the ceremony completely fucking up his calls, classic material

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

dickhead English presenter just described our ties as "spicy", we have a lurker ladies and gentlemen

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:39 (four years ago) link

and Bratislava. fun group :)

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link

hes gone away safe. sorry man i got nothing else to keep you here.

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:56 (four years ago) link

i just went to the shop, to get out, and it was nice being outside, and i didn't know what the hell i wanted, so i thought i'd go and get my "Michael Palin at the beginning of Monty Python" hair cut, but the atm was broke, so i went in the little mini Tesco, and i dithered, and i thought 'fuck it, pub', so i started off up the street, then i talked myself down, then i went back to the shop, then i dithered around it for 15 minutes like a crazy person, decided all i wanted to eat was veggie burgers and sweets, bought same, came home, think the urges have passed for now,

i have no idea why i'm doing anything but hey

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

That's honestly impressive, NV. Keep it up – booze can be pretty fucking tedious, even when you're a fan (and god knows I am).

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link

thanks pom, like i say i don't know why not except it doesn't make anything better even if it's never gonna be better. after last week's three dayer i literally thought i was about to die on Sunday - not sure if huge hangover panic or body sending out distress flares but terrifying feeling if only because while i honestly think i'd be better off not here the moment of crossing over is scary shit also i shouldn't inflict my untimely death or indeed cleaning up my house on my loved ones i know

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link

The hardest thing is projecting yourself into a long-term future, which requires some amount of (I'm loath to use this word but fuck it…) faith. That's when the benefits become utterly undeniable and you go 'fuck me for not doing this earlier'. It's a 40 days and 40 nights-type scenario, but it really does pay off in spades. The trick is to keep yourself busy with… whatever, really (video games usually do it for me).

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

keep duckin and divin nv

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 30 August 2019 12:49 (four years ago) link

well done NV, hope the day seems better after getting out of the house for a bit at least

also I am admittedly a crazy person but "dithering around the shop for a seemingly unfeasibly amount of time" describes my normal shopping routine tbh

keep on keepin' on, much <3

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 30 August 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link

spicy beanburger now confirming i made the right choice

<3 everybody, thanks, sorry for rattling on but i think it kinda helps me deal

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link

"dithering around the shop for a seemingly unfeasibly amount of time" is basically a mini-break for me

kinder, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

i quite like spicy beanburgers sliced up in a wrap with mayo and salad. It's Healthy therefore you can cook half a packet of oven chips with them

kinder, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link

breadcake, lettuce, tomato, mayo - i am cruelly omnivorous but sometimes a beanburger is exactly what you want

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

If I'm going healthy I'll make cheese burgers with Linda McCartney mozzarella burgers but slice a load of spicy grilled wensleydale and onions on top of them. yum!

calzino, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

tbf the bar of chocolate i'm gonna eat next is probably not healthy

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link

chocolate is made from a plant

j., Friday, 30 August 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

Everything is natural.

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

that's right. go with god

j., Friday, 30 August 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

/eɪˈmɛn/ or /ɑːˈmɛn/?

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

Ramen

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

(Link Wray & His) Ray Men

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

Itsu good

calzino, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

making the next few hours feel considerably better

it doesn't make anything better

just gonna leave yr two posts juxtaposed there, glad they came in that order

I feel ya though. it's been a week now and the only time I drank was Saturday night all alone and I had 4 cans of fairly strong IPA and felt like total garbage all night and well into Sunday

also, I've said this before but the shuffle playlist at the top of the thread is an all-time inspiration to me and a true work of art

sleeve, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

Thanks sleeve :)

Otherwise this thread is kinda testamentary to nothing but negative progress, eight years (and all the rest) of bashing my skull against the same walls. But that's life, I'm not complaining. Your head has to go thru eventually.

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

"I'm not dead yet!"

sleeve, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

because i seem to have accumulated several lifetimes of bad karma, last night i realised i've got fucking bedbugs. god knows how - cannot think of anything from the outside that i've brought in in months, and this feels very rapid, like the last couple of days

middle of the night stripping all the bedding putting it into a 90 degree wash but kinda pointless cos no dryer to blast it with and no way of dealing with the source problem, trying to isolate my bedroom as much as possible but now faced with making the house tidy enough to bring in the professional pest controllers, i feel like fucking Job except you know without being righteous before the Lord in the first place

if i make it thru today that's seven days sober but come the fuck on something isn't playing fair

nb this isn't depressing in itself just ENOUGH ALREADY I GET IT

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link

christ, very Job like. seven days ongoing would be a massive up yours to that karma tho.

Fizzles, Saturday, 31 August 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link

i don't really have the energy or the inclination for the pub today tbf, tho i wd like to just be there in company if i didn't have to do anything about it

i'll probably stop at home and post too much again instead. Wolves on TV tomorrow, that will be a sterner test of non-resolve

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 11:40 (four years ago) link

might need a corner shop/chippie run at some point maybe

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link

Bedbugs can get onto you from other peoples clothes or belongings afaik? Anyway post as much as you like and get to seven days. What will you get in the corner shop.

gyac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

craving Vimto squash and idk what really, my appetite is like an 18th century fop with the vapours lately

i've had one other person in bed, weeks ago, no visitors to speak of. i'm in a mid-terrace and wondering if they can somehow make their way across from a neighbours tbh. i figure there's no point me spending money on chemicals and doing the job wrong, gonna give the council a ring on Monday and see when they can get somebody out to give pro advice/treatment. at least it's gonna force me to do some of the tidying i've been apathetically avoiding for months

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link

nah, not an 18th century fop, like the protagonist of À rebours, that's what i've become. except without the money, like.

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 11:57 (four years ago) link

Yeah get the council to sort. Don’t think I’ve ever had Vimto. Is your corner shop like ours in that it does brands and things you’ve never heard of and dodgy Russian Kinder eggs, or is it just a normal one?

gyac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link

i've got an old school sweets, cigs and porn mags corner shop and a Polish-run random European delicacies including Russian Kinder eggs shop both at the end of my street, and a mini Tesco two minutes further away on the main road, so i'm spoilt for choice really. i haven't been hungry in weeks i don't think but i get these occasional brain cravings for a v specific taste and then it wrestles it out with my desire to never leave the house (sober) ever again. really not craving booze atm so that's handy.

2019 Vimto cordial is a sad, watery, sugar-light parody of what it was when i was a kid but it's wired into my dna at some childhood level

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link

Every day (when) I lie here stuck in feelings of futility, inability to focus on any distracting activity, loneliness, hopelessness, regret, attachment, inner/outer ugliness, deeeeespair

well that's when I run off to the pub, the only exit route my pea brain can grasp at

it never lasts, I have to come back

ah fuck. I think I'm not gonna drink today but fuck

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

Did you?

gyac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

Still sober :) yay me

Tomorrow tho hmmm

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

hi NV I haven't made it a week yet but tomorrow I will

2 nights ago, approx. 1 hour after I said to my spouse "I need to just fucking man up about some of this shit" there is a RAT IN THE FUCKING BATHROOM, had to dig around in the basement, figure out how to set a spring trap after years, set it, put it in there and close the door (there was a window cracked to outside). rat has vanished, trap unsprung. wariness continues.

sleeve, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

OK there is a definite universal conspiracy against getting your shit together for some reason

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

xp :)

Good luck with tomorrow and also with the bugs, I am combing fleas off the kittens so I feel your pain on that score

gyac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

Don’t think I’ve ever had Vimto

Disgraceful. Fizzy > lollipop > cordial.

ogmor, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

Never had any of the stuff. Did you know it’s a big thing at Eid? There’s no shortage of Vimto everything in much of the Middle East.
https://www.vimtoarabia.com/prod/

gyac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

Yeah I did know cos I've bought Saudi Vimto before and it's much more like the old UK formula

Never much cared for fizzy drinks tbh

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

every morning I start the day with a glass of Rocks Orange concentrate mixed with sparkling water. That's a very wholesome type of fizzy drink imo.

calzino, Saturday, 31 August 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

Yeah mixing most cordials with sparkling water is good. Tetley weirdly do this lime and elderflower one that’s really good but barely available anywhere.

gyac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

yall just fyi this mix of deep house classics put a huge smile on my face this morning

https://soundcloud.com/rinsefm/chaosinthecbd230819

cheese canopy (map), Saturday, 31 August 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

I'll be on that tomorrow morning :)

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

I've remembered why drinking is bad not good. Oh I met some student libertarians last night. Cunts.

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 09:05 (four years ago) link

Wait I've just seen a Macmillan "Go sober for October" advert self-destruction is the only morally correct response

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link

John Thaw is drinking warm breakfast vodka in The Sweeney and the very thought is making me bowk

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link

is that the animated one where one character offers another one a drink, they say ‘no’ and then turn into a superhero?

that ad is fucking infuriating because the superhero refuses a drink with a flat ‘no’, not a ‘no, thank you’, which is fucking terrible manners and makes them unfit to be a superhero ffs

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 09:30 (four years ago) link

Damn straight

Also when charities nag me I get hives

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link

well, yeah

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 09:32 (four years ago) link

I drunkenly fell into a beer garden umbrella last night and fucked my shoulder up and now I can't hardly move and yeah sobriety is probably the right idea tho but y'know what is this world if full of care

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link

Mr Horrible
Mr Horrible
Telephone call for Mr Horrible

I watched the sunrise get it right along the Banks of the Humber

Alll clouds and infinity

What the fuck are we

What the fuck are the windows cleaners

I know it's Suxlumdsr today

I made wobble Mom

He killed a motherfucking chicken - baby - chockeemmmmmm

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:37 (four years ago) link

I think that my ugliness might be a thing to annoy me with

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:38 (four years ago) link

How’s your shoulder?

gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link

Knackered but I figured out a quality anasthetic

The sky is beautiful cloud-checked blue and in 2 minutes the Spooniez people will seelll me booze unless they decide I'm undesirable but lol come the fuck on it's Spoons unless I look remoany I'm in

Tbc

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:00 (four years ago) link

*Adam Curtis voice*

He looked remoany

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:02 (four years ago) link

*Tim Spoonie voice*

Nobody gave one (1) fuck

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:03 (four years ago) link

*Steve Albini voice*

This is Hull, we do what we want

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:05 (four years ago) link

*Sweep voice*

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:06 (four years ago) link

All Rory Stewart was the reginbrau

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:12 (four years ago) link

Ah bollocks it's reign of dusk

REIGN of dusk

Hi die hi

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:14 (four years ago) link

Somebody spiked my marquis haha

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link

realm actually too. still it worked.

Fizzles, Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

marquis de sadness

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link

A+++

pomenitul, Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

I realised it was realm three quarters in and thought I'd self corrected but I'm glad you did Fizz

Weirdly it wasn't a convo to be had in the drinkingy pubs I'm in now THIS IS NPT A CRITQUE EXXEP SELF MAYBE

my god, I'm full of bars

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link

Friends and lovely people have cut me off from every local bar. Swear to god I will kill motherfuckers rather rthw inot drk k

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link

ONLY GOD CAN STOP.M ME ABD RTBAT CC UNT I'SNT REALI WILL DIE I A DOTCH OVER THIS

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

when you wonder why it's so dark at 9 in the morning and then it gradually dawns on you

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

Honest to god I've either lost or gained 12 hours

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

T H I S I S T H E F U T U R E

kinder, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

So after something close to 36 hours on the lash I kinda found myself back at home. I thought it was 9 in the morning, it was the evening. I started to feel pretty lousy in the middle of the night. I get this cold wave thru my chest, and a dizzy brain zap, cold sweats. I think I'm gonna die.

Beacause everyone knows you can't die outside I dragged clothes on and walked outside. Half four in the morning maybe. I shambled along the surprisingly busy streets, shaking, twitching, doing little stimmy hand flaps and fake coughing to kick start the heart I imagined was gonna stop. I walked right into town, decided I needed a taxi to A&E. No taxis. Kept walking. Not walking it off. Freaking the fuck out.

I register and I can't sit down. I step in the corridor to lessen the impact of my passing. I'm doing laps of that corridor, punctuated with going in the toilet to splash water on my face and neck and rubbing the sanitary gel on my hands and forearms for the cooling effect. I' d say I was embarrassed and ashamed but I passed that stop some time back. I know sleep will help but I'm too terrified to sleep. It won't be sleep, it'll be unconsciousness, literal death.

Triage nurse finally calls my name. She's lovely, excuses my weepy self-recriminations, talks about professional non-judgement, tries her hardest to calm me. She tells me this is likely withdrawal. Gives me 30mg of librium. They've only got it in fives and we laugh at my little cup full of pills. I go outside for 10, pacing in the very necessary dawn drizzle waiting for a kick that doesn't really come. After 20 minutes I see the triage nurse again and she ECGs me. I explain a little about how badly I've fucked my life. I honestly don't think I realised before today just how much I loathe myself. She says my heart is fast but doesn't look heart attack. Doctor needs to confirm. I go back out for a pace.

The doctor is also love, pro, honest, talking at my level. Heart rate is fast - told her she probably couldn't tell but I'm not a marathon runner. Discussed my plans. Review my antidepressants and up the dose. Contact counselling service. Contact alcohol service. She told me not to cold turkey, to have a litle drink when I got home. I'm in Aldi now. I was still shaking like the proverbial shitting dog so she gave me another 30 of librium, words of comfort, wishes of good luck.

To be continued.

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 September 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link

i was worried about you yesterday, glad you’re on the other side of it with medical help

love u man

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 September 2019 07:21 (four years ago) link

my god, I'm full of bars

*standing o*

fremmes with neppavenettes (rip van wanko), Monday, 9 September 2019 07:25 (four years ago) link

Echoing BG's comment here, I'm very glad your surreal night brought you professional help and that all people involved were so very nice (although I can imagine that can equally feel like adding to embarrassment, it's what they're for, it's what they do).

Love you <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 September 2019 07:58 (four years ago) link

rosé spritzer with breakfast. that's civilized isn't it? chic, even. i don't want a drink but i need to make the terror stop by any means. doctor told me i was physically fine, but i'm still poorly and afraid.

i was gonna do a bit about how i'm not writing to request sympathy and people telling me i'm not a lump because i am a lump, a terrible lump undeserving of sympathy or love. but that's the dickish mantra of depression isn't it? i'm just a human. i've made many bad life decisions and i've been feckless and selfish and i've hurt people. but i've hurt myself more than anybody else thru the years i guess. i'm just a human. and i write about to record it and remember it and look at myself but y'know it's pretty fucking selfish to ignore and dismiss other people's love and concern and good opinion of you.

so thank you. everybody. more than i can express.

ooh apparently i tore my rotator cuff on monday which felt far too sportsy but apparently it's just getting oldsy. also drunkenly falling into metal postsy.

i need to seek all the help i need, but maybe not today. too tired, too sad, too ill. rest day. every day's rest day lol you layabout Vague.

i wanna apologise to anybody who's ever messaged me on Facebook because i can be quite a flakey unresponder. i realised this morning i'm shy about it, embarrassed by the intimacy? big mean-spirited nasty Trolldle Vague is just a shy little squirtle hiding in my hard shell. sorry for that. i needed to stop telling myself i'm a dick but i also need to stop being a dick.

i love all y'all. you're here when nobody else is - or when i won't let anybody else be here.

gonna try to try harder.

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 September 2019 07:59 (four years ago) link

m8

j., Monday, 9 September 2019 08:02 (four years ago) link

Wonders of Burma is on Smithsonian Channel which is what I need, dreams of beautiful temples and music and why am I so desperately attached to attachment.

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 September 2019 08:06 (four years ago) link

sorry for flippancy, gl dude.

kinder, Monday, 9 September 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link

Take care, NV

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 September 2019 08:52 (four years ago) link

I’m glad you saw the dr as well. Was worried when you said you were drinking again but not exactly my place to say, but promise no judgement. If you want someone to talk to/distract you if you feel like a drink, I’m happy to be that person (if that’s not too weird which it probably is tbh). But I hope you keep seeing the professionals and I’m really glad they were kind and helped you.

gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 09:01 (four years ago) link

sorry for flippancy, gl dude.

Flippancy is the appropriate and funny response to my nonsense :)

Thanks everybody. Need to envision a future me that doesn't self define as the delightfully entertaining town drunk

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 September 2019 09:06 (four years ago) link

i'm not writing to request sympathy and people telling me i'm not a lump because i am a lump
Flippancy is the appropriate response to my nonsense

with these two remarks in mind I wish to inform you that, NV, you're our favourite lump <3

(I'm glad the docs were helpful and kind, and hope you take them up on their referrals and that the next stage people are helpful and kind too; good luck with everything, and let us know if we can help in any way)

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 9 September 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link

...I wrote that as someone who has mentally composed many never-sent posts (possibly also some sent ones) to the "feel like a lump" thread starting with "no need to tell me I'm not a lump bcz I am a lump but"

but I feel mean now so btw your later assessment is correct, you are not a lump but a human and a good-hearted, smart, funny human who's doing their best despite the hurt and this oppressively capricious universe and the dickish depression mantra in their head

good wishes, NV

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 9 September 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link

Thank you :)

Don't feel mean, you never are, you just have your own horrible inner mantra

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 September 2019 11:57 (four years ago) link

I have a disconsolate daughter who desperately wanted to play Frenchy in her drama school's big Grease production next year and just got stiffed partly I think cos she's not in the in clique, not just saying it as a doting father who doesn't how to make her feel better, that young woman can really sing and she bleeds musical theatre. Guess I need to concentrate on the important stuff.

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 September 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

thinking of you and wishing you the best

in the 12-step meeting they say "your bottom is whenever you decide to stop digging" - just throwing that out there

sleeve, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

As always, good luck NV!

pomenitul, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

you are a big selfish lump and an important and lovable human being worthy of a clip around the ear and a bollocking and all the love and admiration and comfort offered here and elsewhere.

wouldve messaged you yesterday but i was dealing with a lump having his own prolonged blue saturday out west, but i want to note i thought of you at stages throughout and ought ruefully note that at times throughout id rather have been surpervising/participating on your little weekend jaunt that filling a skip in mayo tbh

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

just remember that Duck's on your team in every major European language

sarahell, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

I meant to add a "BTW i love ducks 🦆" line to one of today's posts :D

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

I have a disconsolate daughter who desperately wanted to play Frenchy in her drama school's big Grease production next year and just got stiffed partly I think cos she's not in the in clique

aw :(

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

also *fistbump*

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

I took her out for tea, she'd had time to calm down and stop telling herself she's no good. Proud of her.

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

i am not going to drink today. for the last hour all i've been thinking about is drinking. fuck is wrong with me?

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link

Hang in there NV. Sending good wishes and care from across the pond.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link

thank you :)

we may end up with a long run of me posting "i am not going to drink today" for a while

it's the maddest thing? i guess the point is when i drink i don't have to think about or deal with all the stuff i might have to think about and deal with if i'm sober. also i don't know how to get thru the days otherwise lately, i feel the hours of inability to do anything loom ahead and a little fuse in my brain bursts.

i'm not going drink today tho. just kinda horrified to watch the yen to do it bubbling in my head.

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link

Stay strong NV and yeah post away if it helps you stay off the sauce!

gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

This thread exists for a reason, so spam away as needed.

Being able to differentiate yourself from the yen is a solid start btw.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:05 (four years ago) link

i've been worried probably since before i started recognising that i was getting ill that i might never be able to concentrate or engage in anything that requires sustained concentration ever again :\ so blathering on the internet might be all i've got

i'm going for a chat with my employer shortly so hey at least i'm up and wearing outside clothes

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:10 (four years ago) link

i think im in that place a long time now, its pretty liveable for me but i recognise i may not be particularly invested in deep thoughts (mine or tbh anyone else's)

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link

I think I am the opposite, I tend to get overly focused on whatever is causing me trouble and just...not really engage much with friends and family. It’s a total tell.

gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:26 (four years ago) link

ah deep formless emotion/sink thats different

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link

Is rud difriúil é.

gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:31 (four years ago) link

Scéal eile. Sorry I’ll stop shitposting now

gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:32 (four years ago) link

definitely recognising that feeling too, it's liveable here now but prob a disappointment to my parents who were into the book learning and intricate calculation-based sciences, and I worry myself that as someone without looks or social skills or dexterity or strength it closes down another major avenue of employment and there's not much left

(oh, I can go down a wormhole of bad emotions, or of going 10 pages deep into Google results when normal people would have stopped after the first link, or deciding that I can only start a work task once I've read all tangentially related documentation including 400-page books I already know basically all the content of, but not sure that's the same as concentrating, just letting more information wash over my still-empty skull as a backdrop to fretting about said emptiness)

anyway I am always up for more Noodle "blathering on the internet" for me to read as I while away my days hoping my boss doesn't notice I'm not concentrating on anything (am putting off an already very overdue work email, ahem)

hope the chat goes OK

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link

heh i think that describing these things pithily and accurately is a talent you have aps, im afraid i dunno how marketable that is :(

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:58 (four years ago) link

I have never before been described as pithy but let me take the next 48 screenfuls to thank you profusely for your kind words

I'll just get my thesaurus for some more superfluous adjectives and adverbs, and let me start with a story about my youth, or moreover the youth of a friend of mine - well, I call them a friend, but it might be fairer to say... <Telegraph pay-wall fade-out here>

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

deciding that I can only start a work task once I've read all tangentially related documentation including 400-page books I already know basically all the content of, but not sure that's the same as concentrating, just letting more information wash over my still-empty skull as a backdrop to fretting about said emptiness

Basically the title of my autobiography <3

kinder, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link

xp genuinely loled at the fade out (please post more in general though)

gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

thanks for assuming i missed having deep thoughts and i can relate to everything everybody said but i just meant i wanted to be able to read a book or sit thru a whole film in one go :D

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link

oh, I might regularly decide I need to read 400-page books on things which should be basic prerequisites for my job, but it's a long time since I actually got past page 20 of a book, it's just adding new layers to the procrastination cake

similarly I might get to page 10 of Google results but I haven't read any of the first 99 links, I've just opened 99 new tabs, skim-read a paragraph or two from a couple of them, opened more links from those pages, and panicked about never being able to consolidate all the information

I wrote my overdue email btw by the time-honoured method of telling myself it didn't matter whether I wrote it nicely because I'd check it and edit it later, then reaching the end and going "I don't dare even look at this text again" and mashing Send. now I get to dread the reply for a bit, but hopefully that will take me most of the way to hometime

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link

that's my approach to emails, if you shut your eyes while you're typing it works even better

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link

good tip, I'll try that when I open the response too

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

Is now a good time/thread to point out i can type without looking & also write without looking (and no this does not account for my many ilx fails)

gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

i am sort of lying if i say i am not going to drink today. i am trying not to drink today. i really want a drink.

this is worse than usual.

nothing else to report just ughgghghghgh

bargaining with myself, all the little internal "why not?" excuses versus "well remember it's bad and messes you up, you know, like 3 days ago you idiot?" versus i dunno how do i get thru today days are so nothingy

i suppose this is what addiction is supposed to be like but who says addiction's there to be resisted?

nah seriously i should just go and get my haircut but i'm too embarrassed to go a barber cos my hair is this crazy bushed-out mop and they'll be like "why have you let it get like this and why are you blunting my clippers with your Robinson Crusoe cut?"

might go and pace the streets, worried where my feet end up tho

and can do cigs and maybe try to

never mind, my head's spinning and static all at once

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 08:58 (four years ago) link

and they'll be like "why have you let it get like this and why are you blunting my clippers with your Robinson Crusoe cut?"

Just answer "I was watching the hurling"

anvil, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link

yeah fuck em aint they paid for it.

i only got a bollocking off a barber once, a repair job after id done it meself drunk

nb another reason not to drink today

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 09:12 (four years ago) link

i am not going to drink today

fuck knows what else'll happen, like

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link

nearly cut mine the other week, have done it before

did trim the bits on the side where it was curling out of control

i just had a shave tho, that'll even it out a bit

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link

how did today go?

Agree with being judged by someone who is cutting your hair, if they give you shit about it you go somewhere else imo

gyac, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

i stayed out of the pub, i went for a walk round the block, my old barber was closed for lunch so i didn't get a hair cut but i bought some new trainers cos something had broke in the back of my heel and was rubbing it to fuck, bounced round on non-hurting trainers for 20 minutes, that felt good, Lidl didn't stock clotted cream the fuckers, came home, tried to play football manager for the first time in months, gradually drifted into my listless and sleepy routine about an hour ago, i'll be in bed for the rest of the nothing

felt like mostly small wins tbh. expect i shall want a drink in the morning. shall try very hard to not drink. don't want one now tbf, that went away about 2 this afternoon i think.

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

Small wins are the only wins required! Glad for you today, well done sir.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 12 September 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link

ok Dusty is just widening the void that's sucking me down

given that i have no future of my own - there's the selfishness - sometimes you don't get to have a future of your own but you still have to stick around because there's a few people who need you - the selfishness is why can't i just accept that as enough?

some kind of economy of how many potential good moments are enough to staging post thru the desert of bad

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 07:36 (four years ago) link

Oh no, that’s the last thing I wanted to happen. Can recommend you something else instead?

Worth sticking around imo. How else are we ever going to teach you insults as Gaeilge?

gyac, Thursday, 12 September 2019 07:51 (four years ago) link

lol it's not you! didn't even know which song you were referring to tbh, but that one's mine

the void was already there, just never sure how i'll wake up to it any given day

just at the half asleep wake up moment i reached across to touch the shoulder of the friend who is physically intimate with me when we hang out - lol there is no straightforward way of describing that - and realised of course i was on my own and my heart did that little slump for a minute

but i woke up to the emptiness again, the energyless what am i gonna do with today

i really really really want a drink just to fill the day up with just to be me

i know i need to fight it. scratch that. i don't know very well that i need to fight it. i have the inkling that i ought to fight it. i'm making playlists and i'll try playing video games instead of all the contacting clinical help people i'm supposed to be doing. i have no desire to engage with clinical services today. it'll pass, it's not 9 o'clock yet. i might go out and walk. i really really really want to settle into drinky me.

why am i fighting? like i said not fighting = just succumbing to self

BUT I WANT A SELF

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:00 (four years ago) link

i see my daughter near every week and we chat and laugh and get each other and she's an awesome friend who happens to have occasional sociopathic tendencies but she's the best and yet why isn't that enough why am i still dying inside from aloneness

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:06 (four years ago) link

woah sorry this is gonna get embarrassing feel like i'm sweating out the shakes

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:08 (four years ago) link

Seems legit, better out than in and all that. Your daughter sounds great.

gyac, Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link

to parent is to constantly be auditing all the ways you might've fucked up :/

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:37 (four years ago) link

not half of everything would be half a problem if soma was freely available over the counter

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:38 (four years ago) link

my hands are literally shaking like fuck, it's crazy, could barely roll a cig. am wondering if a small controlled spritzer would be medicinal rather than acting as a trigger but fuck it's not like i trust anything i think at the moment

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link

when did you last have a drink?

gyac, Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:55 (four years ago) link

a shandy on Monday afternoon after the doctor had told me i needed to have a little something for safety

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:56 (four years ago) link

never mind i just realised i haven't eaten anything today. dick. this might help

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 09:06 (four years ago) link

NV I commend you for your bravery in taking this head on. Hardly any consolation but the urge you are trying to fight off is probably the strongest yesterday/today/tomorrow. That will get easier. A lot of the other stuff won't, but at least that will. No more shaking hands etc.

Was wondering, this may sound daft, but since it's so difficult to figure out just what to do and how to get through the day: do you have a bath? And do you enjoy bathing? I've found during those hard times of 'how do I get by, what do I do?' taking a bath is both soothing and relaxing, and also before you know it an hour or more has gone by. Which, sometimes, is just what you want, for time to go by without any fuss.

Apols in advance for if you don't have a bath :-/

You're doing a great job. Your last drink was on Monday. It's already Thursday! That's huge man <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

More of a shower guy tbh :)

Baths are too faffy for me usually whereas throwing myself under the shower has been one bit of self-care I can do most days

I stuffed myself with random food which has accumulated cos of my depleted appetite, that seems to have done a job. I'm just letting the apathy wash over me for a bit now cos at least apathy means not wanting a drink

Ooh and there's a cool spider spinning a web outside my back window. Brb

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link

What are your thoughts on kittens?

gyac, Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

I am very much in favour of the restorative effects of baths myself, like my dad I can spend hours in there. I have a Bluetooth speaker on the wall in there so can listen to music or podcasts either in bath or while cleaning bathroom.

gyac, Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:51 (four years ago) link

Never had a bathroom that felt cosy enough, think that's why I go for the blast and scrub and away routine

I like all animals well enough but I must admit I don't enjoy the bitiness of kittens. My brother and sister in law are big cat people, they used to have one in particular that just would not leave your damn toes alone when you were there

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link

times i've fallen spectacularly on my face/head this week > 3

randoms who know my name because i've already talked to them at length this week and then forgot about it < 7

shame/fear/horror > 10

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 05:41 (four years ago) link

irrational disphoria between wanting to die and scared of dying > 1 billion

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 05:42 (four years ago) link

teeth loosened < not sure i make McGowan look like a fucking Mormon

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 05:43 (four years ago) link

I didn’t need to picture him in that funny underwear, ty for the mental image this brisk morning.

Can you go to a dentist?

gyac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 06:25 (four years ago) link

oh my god there is so much work in that department i couldn't afford the fucker and to be honest i don't think there's any new loosening, just a vaguely sore jaw, and that's probably less of an immediate concern than the blood in my ear that i'm too chicken to go to the bathroom mirror and properly examine

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link

i'm physically almost certainly ok. it's the psyche that's fucked. and fucking useless. on a positive tip i'm too bruisy to even want a drink today. yet.

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link

christ i'm a baby i'm sorry shomebody ban me

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 09:23 (four years ago) link

Mens sana in corpore sano, etc. I mean, not quite, but at least it's not a non-starter. Which is worth far more than you'd think.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

there is a literal fuckton of blood all up in my left ear but i appear to be calm and posting as i usually do so

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link

Dried up or still running?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

i think it's mostly dry, i'm not bleeding out of there, it's from falling quite hard on my face in MacDo and spilling an entire tube of Pringles under me, Chuckle Brothers get tae fuck i got this

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:22 (four years ago) link

this rosie Malbec is great, it's got polo players on the cover so you know it's hardcore Argentine junta shit

a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:35 (four years ago) link

i wish i was elsewhere and i wish getting there wasn't so hard. i think that's partly where the cheap elsewhere of drinking steps in.

Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 September 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link

But hey I'm getting my hair cut. Hopefully the anxiety tremors won't mess up the job.

Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 September 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link

a poor trait in a barber, anyone would own

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 September 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

Lol my barber's a lovely guy. My hair is also considerably lovelier now tho I'm still a bit Shakes the Clown for some reason

Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 September 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link

Bathe in the great feeling of a new haircut imo

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 September 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link

Oh I am, promising myself not to leave it again

Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 September 2019 11:05 (four years ago) link

Tom Hiddleston thinking some thoughts there, as I think we all would in that situation.

(also good luck NV!)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 26 September 2019 12:49 (four years ago) link

NV you're a fucking legend, you're worth the hard work.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 September 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

Well I'm unwinding with a drink so let's not go mad

On the whole, and this won't help, i'm a bit more focused this week. Its just that the answers are all sucky

Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 September 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

maybe u need to... ask different questions

*steeples fingers, raises eyebrows*

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 September 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link

NV you're a fucking legend, you're worth the hard work.


Otm

gyac, Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

I love and need youse all, sorry I'm such a pathetic saddo

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

what’s happening?

gyac, Friday, 27 September 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

i feel dumb and lazy

gazpacho with plenty of coombesin (sarahell), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

Nothing of note gyac, just feeling as lost and empty as ever and struggling not to drink cos it's one of the few things that doesn't make me feel lost and empty...while I'm drinking

But this community is a big and treasured part of my life and when I'm here all alone it makes me less alone

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

I legit made the case to someone today that I felt better about being unhappy at work & other people telling me the same because I knew I wasn’t the only one in that situation and so felt less alone, so I get you.

gyac, Friday, 27 September 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

love u nv, stay strong buddy

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

you should work on the Gaznomicon

gazpacho with plenty of coombesin (sarahell), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

I am seriously going to have a go at that but right now I can't even be bothered to walk five yards to the kitchen and heat soup

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

I think I need to reread "Great Expectations" as prep

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

"In Supergrass we kept our political view for the pub table" is an obvious opening line

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

You could write a whole chapter on this

On 7 March 2008, Goffey accompanied politician Boris Johnson in a bid to try to save the post office near where he had grown up in Forest Hill, at Stanton St. John, Oxfordshire. Goffey commented; "I used to buy sweets and cigarettes there and I want my family to be able to continue that tradition."

gyac, Friday, 27 September 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

paging social services

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

oh boy the Johnson connection in black and white this thing writes itself

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

you can buy cigarettes at the post office!!!!!

gazpacho with plenty of coombesin (sarahell), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

I warmed the soup. Villarreal-Betis turned into a delightful battering.

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

now i want some battered soup

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

something something Scotland something something

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

Anyone who finds using a bowl and spoon too much of a chore when eating their favourite soup will be delighted to learn that soup is now available as a finger food - but comes with an unhealthy twist.

Chip shop boss John Clarkson, 57, has created a pattie-type dish by deep frying farmhouse vegetable soup - and called it the 'soup-er burger.'

John, from Preston, Lancashire, was inspired to create the dish after a cheeky customer picked up on John's penchant for frying and commented: 'You'll be deep-frying soup next!'

But rather than laugh the comment off, John, who has previously deep-fried a giant Ferrero Rocher and a milkshake, picked up the gauntlet and set about working in his chip shop-cum-gastronomical laboratory to find a way of battering and deep-frying soup.

He eventually cracked the problem by cooking up his favourite vegetable soup before adding a touch of cornflour and egg and allowing the mixture to set in a circular mould.


what the fuck, preston isn’t in scotland

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 September 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

Place around the corner from me does battered mars bars but never been brave enough to try

gyac, Friday, 27 September 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

cum-gastronomical laboratory

sentence chopped off here & I thought “he’ll be battering that next”.

gyac, Friday, 27 September 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

My first battered Mars Bar was from a chippy in Tamworth tbf

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

They're not all that tbh

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

God I could eat one now tho

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

We went to Glasgow 4 years ago for the weekend and we forgot to eat a deep fried mars bar. We were intending to. I did have haggis, which was pretty similar to faggots so I liked it (I am a midlander after all) and square sausage which was A+ would eat in every fried breakfast

Colonel Poo, Friday, 27 September 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

square sausage rules

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 September 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

A friend of mine calls it Lorne porn.

coup de twat (suzy), Friday, 27 September 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

the joy of parenthood is that every now and then you get to be phoned by your daughter and your ex both at once while they're in the middle of a screaming row with each other and then you get to feel like a feeb because you can't talk anybody down from the other end of a phone

thank fuck i'm not drinking today

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2019 12:04 (four years ago) link

also not gonna start a sublimated rage war with John McTernan on Twitter

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 September 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link

xp I wouldn’t feel bad about that, you are sometimes best just to let them have at it. Speaking as someone from one of the world’s most argumentative families like.

gyac, Saturday, 28 September 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

wish i could drink myself to death like a slow liquidation, evaporation, gentle and sweet and pretty instead of the reality of terror and convulsions and bodily fluids and ah fuck, the mess, the mess

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 08:33 (four years ago) link

wish I could get dressed I v need vino

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

GOTTA BLAME IT ON THE GOOSE

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

Have you got the game NV? I was thinking of getting it this weekend

gyac, Friday, 4 October 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link

the horrible goose is the cultural highlight of 2019 imo

Yeah I got it when it came out. Tbh it's a very fits and starts thing for me - usually an hour on it is more than enough for a bit but it is funny and HONK and also pretty satisfying when you work out the more abstruse puzzles

Whisper it but the memes are more fun than the game tho but you've got to admire something that's moved me on from ducks 🦆

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link

Actually the Lizzo/horrible goose crossover has been the highlight of my year

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link

I need éclairs and a euromillions ticket more than vino having mulled it over for a bit but still getting dressed for outside, too hard

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link

cadburys eclairs or fresh cream eclairs? v important distinction

Fresh cream ones. And Refreshers. And crisps. And soup or something. And lauda um. And a hookah-smoking caterpillar. And ice cream. And Persona 5 The Royal like now the waiting is agony.

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link

Fresh cream ones

my man

The Fresh Cream of Eclair

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Friday, 4 October 2019 11:59 (four years ago) link

And a mooli whatever the fuck that is, and some Shaw Brothers DVDs, and someone to come round and set my Wii up so I can play Endless Ocean 2 and Monster Hunter Tri but I cannae be fucked with getting the back of the TV

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link

Have you got a co op? Rainbow cones are the best ❤️

gyac, Friday, 4 October 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

And a mooli whatever the fuck that is, and some Shaw Brothers DVDs, and someone to come round and set my Wii up so I can play Endless Ocean 2 and Monster Hunter Tri but I cannae be fucked with getting the back of the TV


Have you a ps4

gyac, Friday, 4 October 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

no i shall be obtaining one specifically for P5 The Royal when the bastards finally release it over here

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

mooli is like a long radish, is good

YouGov to see it (wins), Friday, 4 October 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

yeah i like radishes i keep eyeing them up in Tesco but i'm not exackly cooking much at the moment

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link

and there is no co-op anywhere near me so no delicious rainbow cones :(

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link

grated mooli good for stir fry, one of the fastest and thus most worthy types of cooking

ogmor, Friday, 4 October 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

Did you get your euromillions & cream Eclairs yet?

gyac, Friday, 4 October 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

Nah I just can't be bothered, I'm blue and not v hungry and there's food in the house if I need it, guess I'll have to settle for not being a euromillions ire this week.

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

just going to plonk myself here for a bit. i can’t really say why, but sometimes i feel like a form of madness is crawling round my brain, or i feel utterly bereft and foolish. lear is about the best portrait of this stuff there is. the childlike and raging. what do you do with these feelings? what a mess. building is so hard and impermanent when you’re a certain type. the requirement of relentless focus. and a slip in concentration sees you back at the bottom of the well again.

a desire both for sociability and to be on a distant rocky strand. or curled up on a sofa.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

Lear is a good shout, encroaching incapacity when you're supposed to be travelling in the other direction. Of course we have to assume he was a capable ruler at some point? Whereas I feel like the impermanence you're talking about is tied into a sense of never having had meaningful competence, or always having been too close to the well.

I'm not sure I can do sociable without drink inside me tbh, so the sofa(bed) it is.

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

just going to plonk myself here for a bit. i can’t really say why, but sometimes i feel like a form of madness is crawling round my brain, or i feel utterly bereft and foolish. lear is about the best portrait of this stuff there is. the childlike and raging. what do you do with these feelings? what a mess. building is so hard and impermanent when you’re a certain type. the requirement of relentless focus. and a slip in concentration sees you back at the bottom of the well again.

a desire both for sociability and to be on a distant rocky strand. or curled up on a sofa.


This is the second time recently you’ve done this duality of man stuff, you wrote a really interesting post earlier but you are also the guy eating Chinese off a bin. But yes this is me too, and I tend to withdraw entirely when I’m not at my best (which tbh is pretty bad now). I’ve never really worked this one out either.

gyac, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

things are neither as precarious nor as permanent as they seem the important think is the star of this finnish drama is making the whocareswhodunnit very bearable indeed

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

i think therefore i uh

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

Having a semi serious freak out about having washed the kitten (who’d got shite in her tail) and whether if she splashed me and got some in my cut) so afraid I am not really participating in the esoteric mood of this thread to the fullest of my ability tbh

but I like it anyway.

gyac, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

we are all in the gutter etc

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

and some of us are wiping a kittens arse

gyac, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

i’m sorry to hear that gyac. i’ve been struggling a bit for a while tbh. and i shouldn’t disregard the fact that i’ve got some amazing people around me (including on here). so i feel lucky. they love and care for me and i feel like i’m letting them down terribly.

i thought i’d got on top of things in the past week, but i had a massive, almost deranged mental spiral today. hence lear. it does feel like a battle. it does feel dual. but i’m wary of extrapolating my own psychological make-up and specific context to others.

but huge love and support to anyone who feels in that place here. my heart goes out to you all.

i don’t often do this stuff here because my circumstances are largely fine and it feels wrong to come in with it. and as i say i’m extraordinarily lucky with the people around me.

and i can’t rule out what is probably the main reason for these problems which is that i’m a massive bellend.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

tbf Fizz this thread is not much to do with fine or not fine but largely predicated on bellendery

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

:) is why i’m here.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

otm

gyac, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

all <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

youre an average bellend at best m8

look at least the nfl game went off well right

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

at least you ate indoors?

gyac, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Riddle me this: If every day feels like a blue saturday, does it warrant posting in the blue saturday thread?

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

at least you ate indoors?

do you know, and i say this in the privacy of this thread, that a couple of days later i found my keys in the bag that i had with me when i ate off the bins.

in the meantime i had three pairs of keys cut and phoned round a handful of pubs in london to see whether i’d left them there.

this is a special sort of parapraxis (which i believe as well as misleading also involves losing stuff)

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

youre an average bellend at best m8

look at least the nfl game went off well right

oh come on. give me a break here. got to have something to put on my cv.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

i lost my bank, credit and leap cards in berlin last october and got them all replaced

found them in my sunglasses case this may

this kinda shit is constantly "happening to me" ie i am feckless about possessions

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

same. too long to post here (but i may have told it in anecdote) about the time i accidentally took a spare pair of glass to new york so i could lose my main pair in a basement bar in greenwich village.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

I lost my iPod classic with years worth of music on it two years ago after a particularly bad day & I still miss it, so I get you.

gyac, Monday, 7 October 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

on the flight from berlin i left a particularly nice tablet in the seat pocket

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

when i rang the hotel that night to see about the cards (after arguing with aerlingus on the phone for an hour- they dont send cabin crew to look for stuff fyi) the very helpful reception guy cheerfully commentated his search of the room finishing rather fucking gleefully "nope no card oh but look- all your shirts are still in the wardrobe!" reader i couldve shit

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

lol i left many clothes in a hotel room once. how?!

so many kindles, so many airplane pockets. keys and wallets for everyone. come and get them.

the thing that frustrates me is the sense that my indifference to material items is linked in some way to a sense of impermanence. carelessness. about everything. attentiveness to the material world and yourself, as if you were a bicycle or a cherished heirloom, seems a way of establishing one’s place. it’s sort of the reverse of the ship of theseus. people see it as a fable questioning essence. but actually, like the broom and its handle (trigger but also beckett iirc), it’s a question of regular repair establishing continuity. care.

supposedly the seven-year climacteric is also the period of time it takes for all the molecules in your body to replace themselves.

indifference to material items is also indifference to the most important material item - your corpus or corpse.

i feel like, for myself only, that losing stuff is an example of not valuing myself enough. and if you don’t value yourself how can you expect others to.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link

I was probably just looking for something to panic about last Friday but I was convinced I'd lost my passport. It's usually in one of two spots, and I'm flying out this week and will need it. Did a bunch of tidying and moving stuff around, all while thinking about how I could get an emergency passport appointment and switch my connecting flight.

It was in the third place I'd look, where I'd moved it so I wouldn't forget where I put it.

mh, Monday, 7 October 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

(it was not actually the third place I'd look, naturally)

mh, Monday, 7 October 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

ah, the day-before-flight passport panic, been there

one time I left my passport by the sink in an airport toilet, thankfully a rather obscurely situated one and it was still by some miracle there when I noticed its absence 10 minutes later when my gate opened

has anyone seen my bus card btw? that's the most recent lost object. probably due for a top-up so not a great deal of £ if it's gone but I'll have to go into town and plead with them and pay the replacement fee which I only just got out of paying last summer when I managed to snap the card in half clutching it between thumb and forefinger waiting at a bus stop and apparently getting ~a little too tense~ about whether a bus would turn up in time for my appointment

(it did, and I didn't have a bus card to pay for it with because I'd snapped it, ha ha)

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 7 October 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

<3 to Fizzles and all here btw

yes to the avoidance and forever slipping down, wondering how everyone else seems to manage it when months of careful hard work only keeps you where you are and one bad moment wipes it all out again

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 7 October 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

oh that buspass story is tragic

(trigger but also beckett iirc

Roger Lloyd-Unpack

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

the lack of taking care of things we dont care about is imo to be distinguished from the lack of care of things we do care about, which latter is i think what fits what youre saying fizzles

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link

I've been the person who hands in a wallet at the airport (found in the bathroom), glumly aware that this may do more harm than good.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 07:02 (four years ago) link

always the right thing to do imo. certainly the first thing i will think is that someone will have handed it in.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link

As somebody prone to drunken losing of personal effects, somebody handing something in always reduces my anxiety after the fact.

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 07:48 (four years ago) link

Definitely the right thing to do and I have done this as well.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 09:04 (four years ago) link

oh yeah, handing it in would 100% have been the right thing to do, I was just glad on this occasion that it was still where I left it - but if it had gone I would of course have been immensely relieved that someone had handed it in

also if someone had handed it in, probably at the nearest staffed desk = my gate, and it had ended up inaccessible I would be annoyed at the airport procedures rather than the saint who'd handed it in

(maybe they would just check it against the passenger list, call my name and give it back - though I was fearing there would be reasons, probably even sensible reasons, why not)

the times things of mine have been handed in - wallet left at supermarket, phone dropped in the street - have always greatly restored my faith in humanity

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link

The only time I've lost something that mattered* was the watch my father gave me. He was so disappointed.

* I lose umbrellas to the point that I just get wet now and who knows I might end up with pneumonia one day but it's annoying so I'll take my chances. That's more of a grey area.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:02 (four years ago) link

Pub near work has so many lost umbrellas that never get reclaimed that it’s fairly easy to get one if you’re caught short. I think TFL lost property is like 99% umbrella as well.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link

think if i put in for another replacement bank card in the next few months they'll start asking me questions tbh

glasses are the weirdest things to lose on a bender, you'd think

in the last 12 months i've been definitely targeted and robbed at least once, drinking to the point of that kind of vulnerability ought to be a lesson but well here we are

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link

somewhere in TFL lost property is a copy of At Swim-Two-Birds that I left on a bus, hope someone just takes it

(i did buy a replacement and finish it)

NV you should invest in a gilet covered in zipper pockets imo

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link

no amount of zipper pockets is drunk me proof i fear

like the idea of stomping round Hull in a Barbour, boots and shooting stick tho

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link

I also lost my copy of At-Swim-Two-Birds on a bus, still haven’t read it.

NV, can you let on you want a new card with a custom picture?

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

no amount of zipper pockets is drunk me proof i fear

like the idea of stomping round Hull in a Barbour, boots and shooting stick tho


Tory

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

often considered joining the Tories as a deep penetration agent

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link

you live in yorkshire ;)

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

Didn’t need to read the sentence with those two elements in this morning.

Shout out to whoever put On My Own by Ulrich Schnauss on the playlist and reminding me of how much I love 1) the song itself and 2) the YouTube video of my favourite model with this song over the top. Good gloomy Tuesday listening imo.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

xp
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtM5qP3X4AIjzj7?format=jpg&name=small

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

i grew up amongst huntin shootin fishin folk too

Radio 3 has been surprisingly decent this morning as long as you tune out the gushing presenter banter god i have got to check my choice of adjectives this morning

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link

On My Own was my nomination! :) it'll be pretty high up my ballot, I love it. When I was younger I even put it as my favourite song of the decade in a self-indulgent ILM poll. I didn't know it had a video though!

gyac also a sleeper agent in deepest Tory Kent, they'll change their tune when the roads clog (maybe)

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:26 (four years ago) link

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ab/bb/7b/abbb7b9bbc91c5975a77419c57f9b5a5.jpg

very important off cut missing from the wall of gammon here.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:26 (four years ago) link

I love On My Own and I kind of love Ulrich Schnauss in general but whenever a Schnauss tune pops up on random I always go "oh it's Happy Cycling by Boards of Canada, oh no it's Ulrich Schnauss, oh it's not even the Ulrich Schnauss tune I thought it was"

saw him twice, once in a nice chill venue with comfy seats and perfect lighting for zoning out to drifty electronic noises and it was brilliant, so I eagerly bought tickets the next time round to see him in the art museum basement thinking that that would also be a nice chill space and it was a horrible place with too many people, nowhere to sit, pillars obscuring the stage and heavy stink of sweat and the soundguy's vape

(said chill perfect venue has also ripped out all its seats and reverted to being just another dark sweaty pub back room, which is too bad as a friend wants to go there this week - the first gig I've ventured out for in ages, if I actually go)

haven't dared look at the poll as I don't have time to think about it properly and also feel bad about how few tracks I can think of from the past decade due to being a) old b) scatterbrained and only ever remembering things I've heard in the past 2 days

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link

imo if you're pressed for time, do a single pass through the spreadsheets and only c&p anything you really, truly love. it's hard though and obviously i'm being a bit blasé. we could do with your vote though!!

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:41 (four years ago) link

I usually apply (b) as a positive feature to polling on the grounds that if I can't remember it it's not worth it

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:41 (four years ago) link

have never seen schnauss live alas. really i've not seen much electronic music live. idk how it works can it be good idk idk they have to have mad visuals right?

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link

glasses are the weirdest things to lose on a bender, you'd think

I have lost countless pairs of glasses while drunk. I have no idea how that happens, can only assume I've passed out on a night bus and someone just nicks them for a laugh, because I can't see why I would take them off and leave them somewhere myself

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link

On My Own was my nomination! :) it'll be pretty high up my ballot, I love it. When I was younger I even put it as my favourite song of the decade in a self-indulgent ILM poll. I didn't know it had a video though!

gyac also a sleeper agent in deepest Tory Kent, they'll change their tune when the roads clog (maybe)


I live in a red ward so not quite that Tory & there were loads of Labour signs round our area last time. I blame the rural bits of the seat tbh.

It’s not an actual video for the song, someone just put the song over a video of Sasha Pivovarova (❤️) & I’d forgotten the video existed til I was listening to the song again
https://youtu.be/XnBuncHRW4U

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link

tbf unless my gammon chums are correct Hull is as Labour af

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:50 (four years ago) link

Taking my glasses off is second nature to me :/

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:52 (four years ago) link

i stand corrected (although isn't Greg Clarke MP from around there?)

tbf i think Kent is certainly quaking under the strain, when I went to Sheerness recently there were several Labour signs visible

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

As a sometimes glasses wearer I can say this has never happened to me, only cos I can’t see beyond the tip of my nose if I take them off ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’ve left them in work a few times though which is always horrendous

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link

gyac's russophilia has also been noted and it will have been speculated whether she and her spouse met in moscow

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link

i am extremely blind (up to -10) and would never lose my glasses. usually i wear contact lenses when i go out socially though

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link

Gotta feeling in the past I've dropped glasses while falling over or puking

I did a spectacular face plant at 6 in the morning in McDonald's the other week and popped a lens out of my glasses, got found by a helpful pitying stranger after 5 minutes of searching

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link

I only really need them for TV or movies tbf but I can't enjoy either without them

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link

tt is another 'no glasses unless at cinema' denizen, but we usually sit front row anyway so sometimes there's no need

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link

gyac's russophilia has also been noted and it will have been speculated whether she and her spouse met in moscow


How am I a Russophile?!

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link

my stupidest glasses move was trying to superglue a silicon nose pad back onto them whilst quite drunk. You get superglue on them lens they are finished!

calzino, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link

Rene Russo

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link

i left glasses on the jacks at the Oliver StJohn Gogarty during a twelve pubs spree in 2014 and when I went back the next year some cunt had swiped them

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

God you can't trust nobody

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:10 (four years ago) link

also, birdwatching is impossible with glasses because glasses + binoculars = nonsense

i've just volunteered to be the london bird club's spotter for my two local parks, so i'll be wearing contacts a lot more. adding a morning ramble to my schedule might be a fillip for my otherwise-stagnant creative life and a generally good thing for the *soul* etc etc

ilx birdwatching club anyone

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link

maybe not so much a russophile as a pivovarovaphile, sorry to generalise

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link

i left glasses on the jacks at the Oliver StJohn Gogarty during a twelve pubs spree in 2014 and when I went back the next year some cunt had swiped them



Probably the least bad thing ever to have happened on a 12 pubs

What were your other pubs?

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link

I can tell it's time for an eye test because my glasses have started falling off my face if I look down/bend over. the lenses still seem about right but new frames that don't do that would be lovely

(you can tighten them but once they're a couple of years old my fat head forces them loose again within a day or two)

the numbers claim I'm only a bit shortsighted but astigmatic as hell so it's all the same really, can't see much of use without them on

re 00s poll, NV partly otm about needing to remember something for it to be worth voting for, but on the other hand recency bias will see me deciding that whatever noise I heard two minutes ago was the jam of the decade while forgetting all the things I actually love. BUT I will look through the noms and try to get something together and howl in anguish when I remember some classics I should have nominated

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link

birdwatching club anyone


YES

I never see wagtails much since moving to England and I really miss them. We have loads of collared doves and ravens near us.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link

wagtails are amongst my favourites! we get a few pied wagtails dotted around london, and along some of the rivers you see grey wagtails now and then. cheerful presences all. there's a pair of collared doves in my local park who sit on the tennis court fences in the early morning. alas no ravens

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:22 (four years ago) link

not sure how we found this out (might have been a mistype into google) but the urdu for collared dove is 'ghuggi' and we call them that, it is very fitting

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link

ilx birdwatching club anyone

― imago, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 1:12 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

DOUBLE YES! Still waiting for you to trod the Wadden Sea and spot migrating and breeding birds

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link

Withers was born in Karachi, British India (now the largest city in Pakistan) to Edgar Withers, a captain in the Royal Navy, and a Dutch-German mother, Zitette.[3] She was fondly given the name "Googie" (Little Pigeon) at a young age by her Indian ayah (nanny)

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:32 (four years ago) link

a visit to your neck of the woods is definitely on the cards, lbi! perhaps next year some time...

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link

I can barely tell most birds apart but I like to see them and collared doves make me especially happy

and wagtails, for some reason there were loads of pied wagtails in the street where I grew up and I hardly see them where I am now, despite not being that far away or very different terrain-wise (nominally more urban but still mostly low-rise residential with gardens and some grassland)

great Googie Withers fact!

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link

all googie withers facts are great

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link

shall i recount the twelve pubs itineraries of yesteryear

i shall not

tho the last one we did, pre everyone having kids, was limited to D7 and was a huge improvement

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:39 (four years ago) link

Nice LJ, we'll go mudflat hiking.

Googie Withers was great in Hotel du Lac.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:40 (four years ago) link

is that deems' pub crawl or an ilx birdwatch

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link

xps, mostly to self: love to see coots too, common on this bit of river when I started here and now I hardly see them, alas

the tree by my flat was often home to young wood pigeons and one year some young collared doves, but now I see mainly street pigeons/rock doves in the area and daydream of tracking the ebb & flow of these things, which stretches of river are Greylag territory and which Canada geese

(there is a mixed greylag/Canada family here, don't think it's a crossbreed but I guess just a couple of goslings that ended up following the wrong family one day when two big clans of geese were sprawled out and squabbling across a grassy bank somewhere; that makes me happy too)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

is that deems' pub crawl or an ilx birdwatch


yes

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

(calz is eddie marsan obv)

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link

shall i recount the twelve pubs itineraries of yesteryear

i shall not

tho the last one we did, pre everyone having kids, was limited to D7 and was a huge improvement


I had to google where D7 was.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link

xps, mostly to self: love to see coots too, common on this bit of river when I started here and now I hardly see them, alas

the tree by my flat was often home to young wood pigeons and one year some young collared doves, but now I see mainly street pigeons/rock doves in the area and daydream of tracking the ebb & flow of these things, which stretches of river are Greylag territory and which Canada geese

(there is a mixed greylag/Canada family here, don't think it's a crossbreed but I guess just a couple of goslings that ended up following the wrong family one day when two big clans of geese were sprawled out and squabbling across a grassy bank somewhere; that makes me happy too)


Love coots, esp their dinosaur feet. ❤️

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:48 (four years ago) link

blackheath which i am passing through right now by bus is covered in warring clans of geese, i will enumerate as we go:

shooters hill end - nothing

urgh there are loads of teens necking behind me this is putting me off my goose watching stride ffs

princess of wales pub - three different flocks of canada geese and a smattering of egyptian geese

at this point I received a phone call cancelling my lesson so I got out in central Blackheath and haven't seen if all the greylags are on the western side of the heath, you'll have to trust me that there usually are some

this thrilling content brought to you by the overpriced bakery I'm about to visit

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link

Who tf says “necking” in this day & age? Fped.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link

ok I'm at a loose end so I'll do some walking

hare & billet pond - a pair of egyptian geese, moving their necks around a lot, wish there was a verb for this

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:56 (four years ago) link

fwiw the best thing about coots is how radge they get, and when they get very low in the water as they prepare an attack

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link

There used to be loads of pied wagtails I assume they're another victim of ecosystem fuckery

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link

mounts pond corner - no geese

ranger's house - no geese, BUT A PIED WAGTAIL oh em gee, lookit go

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link

It depends where you live maybe? I don’t see any down here but when I was up in Derby I did and I still see them at home all the time.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

Yeah maybe, grew up Midlands so that could be it

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

there were two pied wagtails in the end, and a call from thames water to pick up their big pink barrier they left in our garden three months ago

into central blackheath now

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link

I found the greylags! God-fearing and pious, beside All Saints Church

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/9r8MSTz/IMAG4140.jpg

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

*honk*
!

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

clipped the top of the church there. the intentional act of a dissident and in no way the cack-handed camerawork of someone who actually likes photographing old churches, oh no

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:42 (four years ago) link

'clipping the church' of course a venerable quasi-pagan custom god I'm full of it today

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link

Geese know no gods and no masters

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

maybe shitting in the church's presence is their way

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

Geese are pretty unfussy about where they shit afaik

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link

took a bus back through the heath and as if they knew, the greylags all took flight and paraded alongside us :)

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

...and a greater spotted woodpecker to round things off!

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

I know they’re unglamorous but I admire London pigeons, no matter how scabby. Esp when you see them roosting on anti-bird spikes, even if they injure their feet by doing so. You see some really interesting looking ones as well.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

Breed some e-pigeons here

(it's a game that the University of Utah has put up to teach genetics 101 or something, but it's quite nicely animated)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

I haven’t clicked that as in work but as far as I’m concerned pigeon gaming topped out at Hatoful Boyfriend

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

oh I still haven't played that! you're almost certainly right that it can't compete, it is just a rather sedate "educational" clicky-thing rather than a real game, but still, I liked knowing what different pigeon patterns were called (and then forgetting again a day later)

I enjoyed HB screenshots very much, maybe so much that I didn't want to play it and have it not be as good as the imaginary version in my head

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

HB is so aligned to my interests I dunno why I haven't played it yet, but I've had Doki Doki Lit Club on the computer for months and not been brave enough to do more than 10 mins of it

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

hatoful boyfriend is the best-written computer game of all time

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

xp oh my god that game is incredible but dark as fuck. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone who’s not in a great place.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

HB definitely Goes Places and I recommend it 100% (but again! Dark!)

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

Today is the first day in years I’ve missed my tumblr, just for being years worth of essential shite - screenshots from games, fashion edits/ads, weird text posts and the rest - that it was. Was like throwing away my old school notebooks - objectively worthless, but years of it!

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

There's a lass from Wolverhampton doing a Carlsberg promotion in my local, today has been crazy good

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

Gyac, why did you decide to delete your tumblr?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

Loads of reasons - didn’t use it like i used to, people I knew had had theirs deleted, changes from yahoo, increasingly unusable interface etc

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

Big ups NV <3

I live in the country side, by the sea. There's a derelict school building (closed since the 70s, it would make for a great artist in residence place or something) next to my house. It attracts all sorts of birds, but just now I've stood watching first the swallows dancing around the garden behind the school and my garden (love swallows), and seeing them being replaced now by bats. It's not completely dark yet, and seeing them fly around is a delight. All is not well, this Blue Tuesday, but that certainly is.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

Yeah I can see that. True to form I just left tumblr one day and never logged back on :) Just checked and it's still there lol. Haven't been on there for five years or so?! So odd to see the same people posting the same stuff they did years ago!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

Supposedly we have bats out this way but I’ve never seen them. I haven’t seen a single squirrel since we left London, and foxes are fewer and far between. On the other hand our garden attracts roads and SV’s mother has a garden full of frogs. Swallows are beautiful, we used to have some that nested in the eaves of my national school.

gyac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

Ahhh I cannot wax lyrical about the beauty of swallows enough! There's a small river on one side of my house, and in summer around 5pm there are dozens of swallows diving over it, catching little flies and whatnot, for dinner. I have literally stood out watching them for an hour almost daily, it's such a beautiful acrobat spectacle!

Getting melancholy now because as of January 1st I'm leaving this place, shacking up w/ the missus. I thought about buying this (renting now) and renting it out, but I'd be the world's worst landlord, it's just not for me. Gonna miss this place dearly.

I haven’t seen a single squirrel since we left London, and foxes are fewer and far between.

I wrote a story about the leading flora and fauna organisation yesterday (they track and register all the plants that grow in every square km here) and the person I spoke to told me that, contrary to belief, both flora and wildlife (this includes insects etc) are way, way more diverse in cities than in the country side! That was news to me (she reassured me saying it's news to most) but it does make sense. They'll count and find 120 plant species here, where they'll find up to 200 in a square km in a city!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

I have bats flying around our garden in the evening. added a certain something when we were watching What We Do In The Shadows; they were flapping around out the window.

kinder, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=90&v=hk4tGTZ6TfY

kinda lol but mostly lol

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

i dressed up for the pub but luckily my laziness and my creaking bones have decided against

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

my line manager sent me a "how you doing?" text on Monday and the rambling nature of my response appears to have shut him down

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

i dressed up for the pub

spider-man or batman?

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link

Trousers

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link

kinky

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link

Charlton Heston mansplaining maps to Donna Reed pretending to be native American

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link

Trousers
― Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:32 (two minutes ago)

what is this 'real life' you speak of? sounds intriguing.
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

it involves 1 part sunshine, 1 part pants, and 2 parts will to live
― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

(RF interference from "Old ILX Posts Which Continue To Haunt Your Thoughts" thread)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

jess otm

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link

oh yeah, well done on not going to the pub, even if only for reasons of laziness and bone-creaking.

bats are cool too, my birthday present this year was to feed the bats at the local zoo, which was good fun but best avoided if you don't want bats to wee on your head a lot - though I can't say I had that down as a thing I wanted, but still had fun

there's a convenient walking route near me which goes behind some housing estates alongside a grassy area lined by woods and not many streetlights, and if you go out there at dusk (say, just past what humans regard as still well enough lit to go walking) in late summer when there are lots of insects, there are also lots of bats. no idea what kind

we got a "bat detector" kit off the internet and went to listen to them a few times this August/Sept, good fun to unnerve last-minute dogwalkers by standing still in the not-quite-dark in the middle of a clearing, staring into nothing, twiddling knobs on a small, crudely assembled box of hissing and squealing electronics

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link

xps
who needs a stairway to the stars when you can ride a tron-bike to the moon?

calzino, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link

if I had a teleporter I'd be in the pub by now

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link

bats fucking rule

my wife texted earlier today to ask if i wanted to dress my daughter and both of us up as bats for halloween and i was like 'i def married the right person'

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

my birthday present this year was to feed the bats at the local zoo,

This is one amazing and seriously original bd gift!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

I demand bg's daughter in a bat suit photos

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

lol lying on my sofa bed playing "Everything Must Go" on a loop kill me for cliche

really thunked hard about dying but then the children get in my head cheers kids that's a thing sorry for being so entirely fucking useless, literally, truly, no comebacks

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link

oh there'll be plenty, don't worry xp

we've really slacked on the dressing-up front tbh, the only embarrassing costume we've given her so far is a stegosaurus

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

Full Geddes or gtfo imo

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

I touched Nicky Wire's leg once. I'm sorry for oversharing. Andreas Baader once did a supergood joke about struggling to maintain an erection and I've been trying to rip him off since I first read it. Might try shooting bank managers instead.

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

When we were in Istanbul SV saw some guinea fowl, which he’d clearly never seen before, and was trying to describe them. He settled on “lady turkeys”. I think about this often.

gyac, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

the lesser turkhen

imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

gekleinenturken

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

Eine kleine frauturkenmusik

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

this is extremely bad and I regret my decisions

gyac, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link

😢

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

I just hope that you can forgive us

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

It’s ok, this thread is my home now!

gyac, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

My kitten is taking his medicine out of my hand, he snuffles the tablet up and it’s the cutest thing ever.

gyac, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

my cats will eat slices of steak off a fork with the most delicate little nibble given half a chance, it's almost enough to make you forget what savage monsters they are the rest of the time

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

Tbf so will i

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

xp why are you wasting steak on a cat please

Also please share pictures of said cat

gyac, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

because sometimes there's not enough room in my gold top hat for all my steak

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

A real frauturken, just now:

https://i.ibb.co/7zgtqD8/IMAG4145.jpg

imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

well that was unfortunately timed

imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

<333

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

Lj why and how are you around so many birds? Are you an ornithologist or mad scientist or something

gyac, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

was given a bird field guide aged 6, been a hobby of mine since then!

today i actually headed into my local (one minute from door) parks with binoculars to try and spot anything interesting and thus get on the London bird club map, but the turkey was pretty easy; one of my local parks has a sort-of city farm in it - sheep, goats, pigs, deer, peacocks, waterfowl

will keep you all apprised of my findings, perhaps (?) on a new thread...

imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

found it quite funny that i walked by a turkey right after you guys brought them up tbh

imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

Yeah I’d contribute to a bird/general wildlife thread!

gyac, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

nature sightings

imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

Blue Friday?

I am off work sick (physically only, thank fuck), and I should try to do some cleaning but cbf. I also need to do my ballot for noughties songs at some point.

gyac, Friday, 11 October 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

i've been putting off the washing since yesterday morning (at least)

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 October 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

I’ll do some if you do too?

gyac, Friday, 11 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

tbf it should take < 5 mins to gather and load

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 October 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

ok i have accomplished a thing today, cheers g

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 October 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

:D

gyac, Friday, 11 October 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

I’m watching what seems to be a TV movie on channel 5. The credits are in Papyrus and it’s a garage sale mystery (7 in the series!) so you know it’s a quality Sunday evening watch

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

the only good Refn, Valhalla Rising was on bbc2 last and is on iplayer for another week. just saying!

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

This upsets me because I loved The Neon Demon!

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

well it was... memorable for sure!

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

would definitely rank it above OGF

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

Valhalla rising is great, a+ would watch again

"these followers of the white christ ..bunch o' wee bastards!" i probably got that quote a bit wrong! It's look reminds me of Zardoz in places.

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

watch la reina del sur

mark s, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

I was curious about this based on your thread until I saw the number of episodes. I’m really terrible at watching tv these days, tend to watch various films over and over

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

the number of episodes is certainly insane

mark s, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

But you like it?

My sister watches the remake & is always linking me to the music (by Giorgio Moroder). Don’t think she knows either the original or who Moroder is.

gyac, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

haven't watched any of the eng lang remake, moroder notwithstanding: for me it needs to be uncut kate del castillo and telemundo's legendary approach to drama, melodrama, lighting and look (the new series is much more fancy and expensive but if anything so far wilder incident-wise)

i love it

mark s, Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

I've got Lewis on as background noise while I do nonograms, I know the words to most Lewis eps by now tbf.

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

Watching a recording of Friday's 'Gardener's World'. Not ashamed to say it's my 'lull me to sleep in this godawful world' Sunday night telly these days.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

i watched the pilot of lewis the other day after hate watching a load of morse and really enjoyed it.

Fizzles, Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

Watching a recording of Friday's 'Gardener's World'. Not ashamed to say it's my 'lull me to sleep in this godawful world' Sunday night telly these days.


i’ve got myself into a real pickle using podcasts and old itunes u lectures when i can’t get to sleep because my head is whirring about stuff and it helps distract me. but also i think it means i don’t sleep v well and sometimes i just lie awake for hours listening to terrible podcasts without taking any of it in. so i’m going cold turkey but i’m so used to it i’m finding going to sleep without it quite hard.

trying not to look at my phone and to read enjoyable but non stimulating or thought provoking books.

Fizzles, Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

if I can't sleep I sometimes down a couple of co-dydramols and stick on professor richard baum's the fall and rise of china, never get as far as early manchuria but always wake up during the long march!

calzino, Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

^ after my own heart. may well do same. though i’m out of handy medication, that sounds excellent.

Fizzles, Sunday, 13 October 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

ah kids i inch closer to suicide every day, i can feel the narrative unfolding

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 09:50 (four years ago) link

i'd prefer you to remain alive tbrrwu

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link

So would I and countless others, including many lurkers, no doubt. You’re a quality poster and human being, NV.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

thirded

<3

take care NV

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 10:02 (four years ago) link

^

conrad, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 10:02 (four years ago) link

^

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 10:07 (four years ago) link

howevermanythed, we are here for you. ❤️

gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link

I love all y'all and humanity in general but

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link

I mean oblivion is a great clarifier and "Love Really Hurts Without You" is an excellent pub jukey song when you'm on the rum

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

I seem to have had a lost weekend but it's only Thursday also I have a sizeable crush on Roz out of Frasier

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:43 (four years ago) link

Roz is the most Blue Saturday out of Frasier

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link

Yes :)

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:44 (four years ago) link

roz doyle, the may pang of nv's lost weekend

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/c1/1e/e5c11e9818b4e57d439bb2ed57b2dc8f.jpgthe best

gyac, Thursday, 17 October 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

ffs you were all saying Roz and I was picturing DAPHNE

kinder, Thursday, 17 October 2019 12:40 (four years ago) link

No way

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that's when I started to worry about you

kinder, Thursday, 17 October 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

Hahahahaha

Ow my head

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link

martin crane was low-key the hottest frasier cast member tbrr

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

i did consider eddie but, perhaps uncharacteristically, decided against going in on an endorsement of dog-fucking - i should have known someone else would have it covered and moreover i should have guessed it'd be you

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

in for a penny

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-nhRjoVwAASvmo.jpg

mark s, Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

in for a pounding

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

I have horrible withdrawal symptoms and the laughter is not helping

On the other hand I'm not going to the shop so it's my own fault

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

Bloody hell watching the mountain bit in Donovan's Reef gave me the fear

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link

have Mishka sitting on me while I am playing the songs as they come out. he likes Daniel and crazy in love, is lukewarm about Romeo and has his ears back at Pyramid Song and Take Me Out

gyac, Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

heh, wrong thread :)

Book Doula (sleeve), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

nope I wanted to keep it here! Also NV go to the shop for snacks already pls

gyac, Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

I bought snacks last night and woke up this morning surrounded by pistachios but I thought I needed some hair of the dog, might be thru the worst of the rattles tho

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Something at Film 4 must be broken, they're showing 3 films that are actually good today

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

Which ones?

gyac, Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

Vertigo and Donovan's Reef have been on this morning,and The Handmaiden's on at 11. Normally it's all vampires and Statham bullshit

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

might be thru the worst of the rattles tho

hugz

Book Doula (sleeve), Thursday, 17 October 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

really great movie is The Handmaiden.

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

Statham bullshit

jason statham is our greatest living screen icon fuiud

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-nhRjoVwAASvmo.jpg

mark s, Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

that's why i specified 'living' u heathen, when was the last time you saw that recliner in a new production

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

unlike u that chair will never be dead to me

mark s, Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

is that a shackletons? their iconic showroom is just down the road from me.

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

Stath's been phoning it in for the last decade

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

nonsense - he delivered a career-best performance in spy (2015) and he was excellent in this year's finest film, fast & furious presents: hobbs & shaw

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

TO NAME BUT TWO

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

I enjoyed Spy and tbf me and Joel were gonna watch Magnet and Steel but we got drunk and watched Force On The Case on YouTube instead

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

sort it out, it's fuckin great

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

I was amused by Idris doing the Black Superman bit in the trailer

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

apparently it was supposed to be 'black james bond' but idris refused to say the line

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

i don't know where or what or why i am and i don't know why i'm telling you this but the sea is so everywhere and beautiful and empty

and it will turn ugly again

but it will still be the sea

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link

Good morning NV. Still feeling benthic?

gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link

Lying here in my little boat wishing breakfast would make itself or wandering whether I can carry off a trip to the shops in pyjamas and dressing gown

Going on a bit of a Park Chan-Wook tear is probably contraindicated.

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 10:33 (four years ago) link

I thought I'd channel some NV spirit this morning and rang that Labour councillor I posted about on the politics thread. I told him I've had some time to think about it and there is not a fucking chance I'm turning up at that meeting or any others in the foreseeable future.

calzino, Monday, 21 October 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

What’d he say?

gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 10:51 (four years ago) link

He was impeccably polite about it and said "I hope to see you soon". But he was a manipulative slimeball on the phone to me on saturday, and I had a bit of retrospective anger building up in me about how easily I was played!

calzino, Monday, 21 October 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

what thread were we talking about that on?

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link

a trip to the shops in pyjamas and dressing gown

arthur dent chic is in this season iirc

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 October 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link

xp
rolling UK politics saturday nite!

calzino, Monday, 21 October 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link

yeah it must be for the "skipping posts" bit, couldn't find it

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link

it's probably way into the graveyard

calzino, Monday, 21 October 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link

Enjoy how that thread just segues into chat cos so many of us are on there regularly and it’s so fast moving...probably annoying if you’re a lurker though

gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 11:05 (four years ago) link

lurkers of the board, decloak

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 October 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

If you have yet to acquire true sight, just cast glitterdust.

pomenitul, Monday, 21 October 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

remember the time he accidentally posted his dick

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

I really hate Chris Sutton

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

I barely remember Chris Sutton, apart from his fallow Chelsea period.

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

Also sometimes dragging sport into the politics thread is funny because of the annoyance

God I really hate Ant and Dec as well

And the TV channel Dave

And vast swathes of the UK electorate

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

Literally reading his Wikipedia page and had to scroll back up twice to look at his picture again. He’d make a great spy.

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

Tony Watt, the most outspokenly pro-Labour footballer on Twitter as far as I know, is quite pally with Sutton. yeah the Celtic connection but I think there's something to Sutton having a decent political outlook for all his cockish comments about football itself

― imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:26 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

I prefer to post tweets to there to annoy people who bitch about it, and any other stupid thing that comes into my head tbh

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

I'll also say this about Watt: for a kid who got to play for the club he supports, he's incredibly non-bitter about having left them so soon, and he tries to watch (and enthuse about) all their games whenever it doesn't interfere with his gaming and occasional CSKA Sofia career

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

I went on an 18 hour bender yesterday and ended up sympathy snogging some guy at 5 in the morning which was a drunky dick move on my part and the bad feeling is making this hangover worserer.

Christmas TV adverts make me sad and angry and anxious and I feel like I am a wastrel burden on my family and loved ones and I hate Chris Sutton's stupid fucking opinions that he has for money and whitey's on the moon.

Taking the information from imago on board tho.

FUXK YOU SMIRNOFF HOW FUCKING DARE YOU USE SHIMMY SHIMMY YA

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

He’s into CoD though... 👎🏻

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

xp sympathy what

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

yasss

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

I'm a lonely dick tease who just wants a cuddle when I'm several hours into the drink

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

anyway there are only like three good Christmas ads imo and absolutely none of them are John Lewis ones, and you aren’t a burden or wastrel

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

xp better than being an angry or aggressive drinker imo

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link

I was cataloguing my drunky personae this afternoon, just realised there are a few of them. None of them are angry or nasty tbh but I used to have a horrible mouth on me when my ex tried to suggest I'd had enough to drink, another regret I'm never gonna outlive.

There's a funny drunky and a can't talk any more drunky and a sententious won't shut up drunky who I really regret and there's karaoke drunky and talking to random strangers who probably want you to fuck off unless they're drunky drunky and the what if I just keep walking all the way round the world drunky

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

oh god and the drunky who once staggered round a party full of French people rambling on and on about LHOOQ then fell into a rosebush and couldn't get out

and the drunky at a corporate book launch who mistook the chairman for a waiter and asked him for a glass of red

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

(just interrupting to bid you all check out LBI's excellent travelogue work on the snooker thread)

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

Ah right I wondered why that was revived

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

maybe you should poll Drunky NV but my vote will always be Faust Arp

imago, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link

chairman or gtfo

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

It's kind of funny and makes a yarn but really it stopped being funny years ago. One of the things I loved about "The Beach Bum" is the way it invokes the "lol legend" and "tedious, exploitative wanker" aspects of the chronic addict all at once

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link

oi

YouGov to see it (wins), Monday, 11 November 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

I kind of enjoy the Mariah crisps advert, just to inject a note of positivity to leaven all my get in the ocean cobblers.

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled is actually running an ad campaign saying how shit his shittily-titled album of shit music is when in fact the album is shit.

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link

hi everyone, not in a blue saturday way meself hi everyone just yknow hi

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 11 November 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

👋🏻
I always feel a bit awkward talking irl too much on here (or anywhere outside 77) but I’ve had better weeks!

gyac, Monday, 11 November 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

Hi darragh

Sorry bout your bum week g

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

(just interrupting to bid you all check out LBI's excellent travelogue work on the snooker thread)

― imago, Monday, November 11, 2019 10:47 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Aww. Seen this just now - checking out the Blue Saturday bookmark right before bed. As one does.

Things are.. shiny on the surface, rotten under the hood. Blue Saturdays stretching into Tuesdays and days after and into the next Blue Saturday, obliterating the time and days in between.

I do not know if I fear life or fear death any more; I can't uncouple/untangle the two. I cannot understand or make a choice or decide if making said choice is of importance at all. Can't grasp if my fear is of dying, of living, of both or of neither. Is desiring suicide really desiring eternal life? Life so far has been a perpetuation of being amazed at how one can "get by" while feeling thoroughly lost and scared at the same time. It's a twilight zone (a twilight zone indeed best reserved for 77, not if my gibberish will make more sense on a diff borad, but), this.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 11 November 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link

Acting like I wanna die, terrified of eternal nonexistence, I feel you bud.

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

Drinking is a terrible, dumb way of stopping time. And it doesn't stop it, it eats it.

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 November 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link

Otfm. It's like Schrödingers cat with an added Catch-22. When stopping or eating time cancel each other out and are nullified. And the 'null-ness' of nullify sounds way more appealing than it should.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link

Schrödinger's catch-22 is good

deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 01:13 (four years ago) link

I feel like lying in bed listening to Eliane Radigue and shitposting might be a good plan for the rest of my life.

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link

Hey yeh! Shit posting is something to do

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 01:47 (four years ago) link

I wonder how lucrative shitposting is financially

sarahell, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 07:31 (four years ago) link

Might look into that, a job you can do from bed sounds like a plan.

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 07:36 (four years ago) link

have you considered becoming a camgirl

Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 10:09 (four years ago) link

hi and <3 to all, sorry about yr weeks gyac and NV, sorry about your twilight zones LBI

here is a space for you to imagine whatever emoji is most appropriate after that sentence

sorry for wrong kind of shit posting

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

ILX ate my emoji contemplation space but I guess you didn't need any more than that anyway

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

I do have the boobs to be a camgirl

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:49 (four years ago) link

There's no wrong way to shitpost unless you're Laura Kuennsberg so fire away spacey

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link

otm, please comment more <3

gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

Can't tell what's "this election is foregrounding how evil and stupid vast swathes of people are" depression and what's "I've fucked everything up very badly and absolute crisis is closing in" depression and what's "depression is eating me up and distorting all perspective" depression any more

It's like climbing a mountain getting out of the house to get food, really rather wouldn't, I just lie here watching the waves of apathy and anxiety alternating over me

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 November 2019 11:26 (four years ago) link

sadkins diet

if it's a little from all 3 columns, fight column three first and fuck column 2 a bit for now and fuck col 1 completely until you've mental feet under you again, whenever, if ever

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 15 November 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link

"sadkins diet" is good :)

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 November 2019 11:40 (four years ago) link

it was a long-winded way of saying "in sooth i know not why i am so sad" i guess but i really *really* know not, i mean these are the operating conditions

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 November 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link

whats special about short winds tho

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 15 November 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

"depression is eating me up and distorting all perspective" is the foundation all the other bad feeling builds on ime, and keeping that at the forefront of my mind when i'm really struggling is key to getting at least some way back on track

it's fuckin hard tho, i feel you

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 November 2019 11:47 (four years ago) link

tears, idle tears, i know not what they mean.

Fizzles, Friday, 15 November 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link

a job you can do from bed sounds like a plan

it's actually really hard to sustain motivation at these!

j., Saturday, 16 November 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link

I can imagine, but the point feels moot.

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 November 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link

"the operating conditions" I meant this is life, unexceptional, general.

3 o'clock in the morning hanging onto this thread to the world outside counting the isolate slow thoughts

Shd read and shut up, fold up, fold away to forgotten pocket paper.

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 November 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link

Ha I just read your post in the other thread j yeah reading thank god

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 November 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link

"Invitation to a Gunfighter": Yul Brynner is fucking KILLING IT

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

i feel - on days like this, which are shitty and hungover and stupid - like i'm always the one who has to reach out to my children. they never initiate a meet-up. and they live with their mom and then kvetch about her to me when it suits and sometimes, mostly, i think well this is normal and its ok but sometimes it just makes me feel very very nobody writes to this colonel

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

in the buccaneer yul has a good bad wig it's very disorientating

mark s, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

i think i remember that

"Invitation to a Gunfighter" was pretty excellent but you can see Hollywood struggling to rein in his sexuality

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ghIIUKIUEWE/UbaiC-gD9vI/AAAAAAAAI5U/6sukTwbR4SM/s1600/The+Buccaneer+2.png

yeah this is wrong

i think i hated Chorlton Heston even before i knew he was a total douchebag

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

There is a hipster in a canal boat on BBC4 and it's actually the least worst thing on atm

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

He's just used the word boaters to refer to co-bellends and he's about to explore Stoke ffs

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

I can't do this to meself there must be a Nazi documentary on somewhere

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

u-boaters

steve harvey oswald (brownie), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

Ah it's finished thank fuck oh god it's a documentary about the Queen's sister

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

Insert coke joke here

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

John Cooper Clarke was on celebrity antiques road trip pissing all the money away

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

masterchef notwithstanding i've quit terrestrial for netflix and LA REINA DEL SUR and then ANCIENT ALIENS

mark s, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

I think Ancient Aliens gets played on one of the high number terrestrial channels but that stuff hurts my head

I found a good Chinese series of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" on Youtube the other week but I'm too befuddled for subtitles today.

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

i mean yes it's brain-corroding garbage but have you seen "factual" TV recently

mark s, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

erich von daniken did brexit

mark s, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

Yeah I enjoy terrible factual TV but lately Jamie Theakston has been too much for me

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

I can't do this to meself there must be a Nazi documentary on somewhere


...Dad?!

gyac, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

Nazi documentary on ITV at the moment

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

i'm always the one who has to reach out to my children. they never initiate a meet-up

NV, I spent a few minutes earlier today realizing I haven't reached out to my own parents for a while. I think it's a parent/child dynamic and I've actually asked my parents if they'd want me to call/meet up more often. It's totally legit for you to say "hey, it'd really help if you called or visited a bit more often"

maybe set up a regular evening or whatever

mh, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

I do take both of them out on the reg and I think you're right, it's what children do. That's what I was pondering.

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

Both of them. The two that live down the road. The eldest is in Essex, poor lad.

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

Couldn't decide on an appropriate thread to moan about it being Guy Martin season on Channel 4 again

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

I don’t know who that is. But this is always the appropriate thread!

gyac, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

Sitting outside vets with a naughty kitten, sky’s darkening rapidly and it’s not even 3.30, and I can see a GET BORIS GONE tactical voting billboard. That’s pretty blue, right?

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

it's been dark all day round here

i thought naughtiness was a design feature of kittens?

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

The kind of naughty where she ate a sharp piece of skewer and is frisking around like I’m not stressing over it! Feeling like a bad kitten owner rn.

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

the moral here is to eat all the souvlaki as quickly as possible

imago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

good luck naughty kitten tho

imago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

yeah that's a bit much. frisking is good tho surely. you don't get these issues with a doner.

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

she is cuddled up to me and purring. looking forward to the next two days of examining every shit that comes out of her

gyac, Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

Bless her. And gl with the latter...

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

Spent half of a very long catch-up sleep dreaming about waiting for a pub that refused to open. God my unconscious is basic.

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 December 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

I had a dream about being excluded out of a FAP the other day

gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

(ctd from politics thread)

...also not drinking is hard i guess, facing this month sober...shudder

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

too fucking much, it's like a pit at the base of a mountain, there's no way i can get up from here

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

❤️ when’s the last time you had a drop?

gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

last Tuesday/early hours of Wednesday

the craving is mostly a 30 minute blast that comes occasionally, i just have to ride them out, obviously the internal argument "hey why not have a drink? fuck it" is the tough bit too, it's like gawping into the void which is there whether i drink or don't drink tbf

right now it will just not help, that's my mantra, feeble as it is

and i really like booze/pubs. maybe buy a lottery ticket.

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

i mean really why be sober or together or anything in a nation owned and cheerleaded by cunts cunts cunts

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

I mean yes I struggle (not very successfully) with my various vices and this all the time, but that’s what those cunts would want most.

gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

Here I am in the middle of the dark I'd like to be

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 December 2019 04:54 (four years ago) link

I get the spleen at 3.15

I'll take both of YOU on

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 December 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

Hi Jim this is a note to remind you that you really don't enjoy these hangovers when you think you're about to die so maybe let's not have them any more OK?

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link

Did you end up getting pizza?

gyac, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

hbd NV! may your coming year be hangover free

mh, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

No I'd already had some tea and when I'm this poorly it'd only be wasted. I've had a couple of sips of rum to try and steady the panic but it's not working, best thing would be sleep really but I'm stubbornly hanging on for Rick and Morty

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

And thanks mh! I hope so too

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link

Out to everyone who’s struggling today. NV - hope you’re staying above water

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link

Black Friday.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

i'm ok. taking all my effort not to fuck myself up, and i don't want to talk about politics until these feelings have settled down a bit. love to everybody. we're gonna need a lot more love.

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 December 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

<3

Wee Bloabby (NickB), Friday, 13 December 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

Much love, NV.

pomenitul, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

(And everyone else, of course.)

pomenitul, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

Love to you man, and all <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

Hold tight, NV

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link

<3 what everyone else said

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 13 December 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

Legit got Chinese & thought of eating it off my bin Fizzles-style.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link

I’m around 85% sure I vomited blood in the early hours of this morning. Resolved to get on the sober train again (not tonight tho) and go get some free at the point of use care

For how much longer do we tolerate trashed purdah? (wins), Friday, 13 December 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

Ahhhh look after yourself mate. They’d want you to suffer.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

<3

Already contacted the mental health service on Tuesday - only took me 5 months to get on with it. I thought about starting on the booze last night and then again this morning but I've stayed off, don't think i'd've been able to stop if I hadn't. I've ate a stupid amount of sweet stuff today tho :D

Hope you get as much help as you want.

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

Proud of you NV. We are here for you if that means anything. I’m doing the same.

gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

Yes you are inspiring me Jim

Be interesting to see some science on the sugar thing, I was totally unbothered by cake until I started quitting (and now I do both ffs)

For how much longer do we tolerate trashed purdah? (wins), Friday, 13 December 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

I don't know if there is actual science but it is rare I've heard someone quit drinking and NOT note the sugar cravings. I'm like you, wins. Subsided in intensity after a few months, but for a while there I was averaging a big cupcake and a big cookie and a big slice of cake every day!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 13 December 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link

Also kudos NV for contacting the service. I've almost asked about it but didn't want to seem the nag.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 13 December 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link

How’s it going NV?

gyac, Monday, 16 December 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

ok really, haven't heard back from mental health service yet, brain function is definitely a bit clearer the last week or two, hard to say if that's a product of new meds or just the ebb and flow of mental health - it's always hard to work out what's what in my experience.

still struggling to go to sleep at night, just want to stay awake doing not much, playing games or puzzles or reading or just vegetating - even not posting on ILX i end up reading quietly more than i intend to - LOL THIS IS PROBABLY A VIRTUE

woke up this morning and couldn't wake up or get on with the stuff i really really need to get on with. pleasant time in the company of my children (and ex) tends to give me a backwash of regret and sadness afterwards which is just

i mean i'm still a marshmallowy passive blob of not wanting to do anything but sprinkled with increasing anxiety about money and debt and oh shit what am i gonna do to fix this and be able to still have a home and a life

impoverishment is going a way towards keeping me off the booze which is helpful even if for wrong reasons

clear-headed but mostly empty would be the short answer, dazed and unenthused would be the shorter one

but kind of ok until the next crisis

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 December 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_King

Adèle King (born Adèle Condron-King, 4 April 1951) is an Irish entertainer better known as Twink.

Twink's marriage ended after 21 years, in October 2004. In 2006, David Agnew (aged 45) had a baby with clarinetist Ruth Hickey (29). This prompted an infamous phone call from King (54) to ex-husband Agnew. She recorded a hostile message on his answering machine which appeared afterwards on the internet. The recording contained coarse and abusive language, such as "zip up your mickey" (Irish slang for penis), and Twink insulted Hickey and the newborn infant, repeatedly calling them "whore" and "your whore's bastard" respectively. King went on to threaten Agnew with denial of contact with his daughters if photographs of his new family appeared in public.

Twink described the Irish singer, Linda Martin, as a "cunt" during a tirade in May 2010. The two had been friends for 30 years but both said afterwards that they had no plans to speak to each other again.

In September 2014 it was widely reported across major Irish media outlets that Twink's dog, Teddy Bear, was kidnapped. Commenting on the events, Twink was quoted describing Linda Martin as being "a very powerful woman in the dog world" and that the kidnapping marked her own personal "Erin Brockovich moment". On 24 September Twink was reunited with her dog after a public tip-off led to the police arrest of a man in Dublin.

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

(patriotic tear in my eye)

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

i feel like i dimly remember this whole story but a friend showed it me this afternoon and i also have tears in my eyes

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

xxp this is iconic af, how did you stumble across it? I am happy to link you to other incidents if you’re in need of distraction!

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

like i say i feel like i've seen it before but i mean even the stage name, absolute tears

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxi,_Dick_and_Twink

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

This is less legendary but still great

https://gcn.ie/aoife-mcgregor-voicemail/

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

yesss

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

Cocaine is a helluva drug

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

They’re some family

https://youtu.be/OZPx708ip8U

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

i mean don't get me wrong they're adequate if you're with somebody and/or you're on a crawl. also Han likes eating there because it's straightforward food she likes (going veggie so this may change) but more importantly she's really into using the app to order from your table, it feeds her control freak instincts

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

deems I have to say this is a rare occasion where I have a better dn than you, yours physically hurts me

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

Han likes eating there because it's straightforward food she likes (going veggie so this may change)

quite a few vegan options on the menu last time i was there, but the pizza i had was really fucking awful

the woefullest shirker (NickB), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

yeah i think Tim Spoon doesn't want to serve anything tinged with Europeanness

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

this dn?

its brilliant tbh

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

the first two á sounds so close together though

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

but you have to pronounce it like mná innit

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link

Oh you should see the Heaney doc Gyac, I thought it was brilliant. A pastoral portrait of the poet through the eyes of his wife and brothers. Slow poetry readings. Images of peat and bogs. How handsome he was! Winning doc imo, hope you recorded it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

Shit, wrong thread. An Irish takeover of Blue Saturday will do that to one.

"All I know is a door into the dark."

- Bob Marley Seamus Heaney

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

Lol it’s fine, we had the Twink voicemail to revive this thread. I will look now that you’ve reminded me. I was thinking about Heaney today actually; I have had bits The Harvest Bow floating around my head all week.


And if I spy into its golden loops
I see us walk between the railway slopes
Into an evening of long grass and midges,
Blue smoke straight up, old beds and ploughs in hedges,
An auction notice on an outhouse wall--
You with a harvest bow in your lapel,

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

Oh Mad Friday, you are the finest day of the year

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

It was 12 years ago today, that I broke my ankle on mad friday by trying to jump up some steps rather than sensibly walking up them after supping a skinful at work. Dud imo!

calzino, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

It's my favourite religious festival and altho I've had a couple I'm not too bad yet and it's classic catching up with mates in Yulestep Back mode

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

I had to look up mad Friday. Never heard of it before.

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:25 (four years ago) link

I had to look up mad Friday. Never heard of it before.

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

Thanks Zing, that really added to that post.

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

also known as Black Eye Friday

anyway, hangover, drank more than i shd've but it was ok in the circumstances, most of the remorse was chemical. i've actually had to do a bunch of grown-up sorting my life out phone calls the last couple of days and alongside the usual pre-Christmas chores every ounce of me wanted to retire under the duvet but shit i made it i feel well not strong but y'know :D :D :D

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link

You (legitimately) love to see it. What are you doing for the Christmas?

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/vXs33ii.jpg

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

going to mom's which means no Playstation and overexposure to bad TV for a week but hey, Christmas, it's all part of the occasion

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link

What do you play on the PS4? Also I didn’t realise people outside the Midlands said “mom”!

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link

I grew up in the Midlands so it's Mom. Still on PS3 tbh but I got Atelier Meruru for my birthday and I'm deeply in love with it.

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link

Actually years of Hullness means I alternate between mom and mam

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

Oh that makes sense. Honestly think buying a ps3 for £50 was one of my best purchases of recent years, I’m very slowly doing all the old MGS games.

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

ive been pondering how much of an investment it would take to get a PS2 era pro evo operating without actually having a PS2 within mrs macs eyeline

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

I keep thinking about getting that HD reboot of the MGSes, our Joel loves them but I dunno if I'm patient enough. They look beautifully mad tho.

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

xp like emulators or compatibility? I have to admit I don’t miss our PS2 at all, that fucker sounded like a jet engine after ~20000 hours of Tekken Tag Tournament

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

xp strong recommend, they’re ludicrous. Full of what the fuck moments all over from start to finish (including the Irish language song over the credits of MGS)

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

emulator would require me to up the juice on my under-tv pc and i cannot justify it tbh

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

What have you got atm that you’re mulling over then?

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

i get about as far as weve just reached tbh

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

ive an xbox one on loan. too advanced tbh.

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Monday, 23 December 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

Second hand PS2 probably costs buttons but I realise that defeats the object

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

NV the Yakuza ps3 games are good, they’re all getting remade atm, but if you’re interested you could have them?

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

Cheers g, I've looked at them too but I'm good for now thanks, I usually spend weeks on a game and I've still got another couple of Ateliers I'm eyeing up before Persona 5 Royal comes out and then I have to get a PS4. And I've finally got my head around last year's Football Manager so I'm not short of frivolous distractions atm

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 December 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

Merry Christmas! In the car listening to Now That's What I Call Disney. No cats until I go to my brother's.

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 11:57 (four years ago) link

upstairs in the library bar at the central (best in town imo) with a single malt approvingly watching the yanks and the english diaspora doing it correctly

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 12:03 (four years ago) link

that’s a good place that is.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link

merry christmas all. just ion a bus heading back home and thinking about an afternoon beer.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

on the ferry to belfast, just spent 20 minutes teaching my daughter to drive the batmobile in front of a batman arcade cab on display mode

reckon she’ll be fine to drive us to her grandparents when it’s time to disembark

brought a kiss to the knife fight (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

Why would you be going there (no offence bg)

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

it’s my wife’s place of birth

alas

brought a kiss to the knife fight (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

Alas indeed. Nah, I haven’t been to Belfast since the Clinton presidency, people say it’s nice to visit? I’m so curious about the black taxis.

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

it doesn’t feel too different to glasgow (for good and for ill) tbh

brought a kiss to the knife fight (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link

my sister's BF has sourced a snack-sized turducken, except he calls it "turgenduck" -- he is now singing the word "turgenduck" to the tune of "agadoo"

we are listening to a radio v4 drama called "the christmas present" even tho none of us remotely enjoys radio drama. the xmas eve ep of the archers was blurbed thus: "it's jim's big day"

mark s, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

thrilled for jim tbh, he deserves it

brought a kiss to the knife fight (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

Making the gravy for tomorrow (the Jamie Oliver recipe with medlar jelly instead of cranberry sauce flung in at the end) and then after getting dressed for dinner, going to Polish Christmas Eve in NW5 - friend’s mum that usually hosts an army in Chippenham is between old house and new house, so her son (my friend C) is the host this year.

I’ve just come back from the central Londoner’s Christmas Eve perk of touring the little Waitrose, Sainsbury’s and M&S for steeply reduced posh food - picked up quite a few prawn things, ham, and truffled Brie.

santa clause four (suzy), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

the best radio drama action is on 4 extra - a *star* studded Thunderball adaptation with Tom Conti and celebrity UKIP voter John Sessions. TBH I'm actually enjoying it!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

Bbc4 has the MR James ghost story this year, this one has Peter Capaldi.

glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

as judge jeffreys (= the worst person from wem)

runners up: the critic hazlitt and grouty from porridge aka maester aemon

mark s, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

judge jeffreys' "first major trial in James' reign was that of Titus Oates. While there is no doubt of Oates' guilt, Jeffreys' conduct was no more decorous than usual; the latter part of the trial has been described as such an exchange of insults between Jeffreys and Oates as to make it doubtful if proceedings could continue."

(he behaves humorously badly in this story also lol)

mark s, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

I've read some revisionist accounts of Jeffreys that reckon a lot of his awfulness was exaggerated by Whig propagandists, which Macaulay relished and amplified, but I'm happy to believe he was an angry drunky vengeful monarchist lapdog tbh and Macaulay's anecdotes are pretty funnny

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link

Francis Barlow made a comic strip about the Popish Plot and Oates in 1682 named A True Narrative of the Horrid Hellish Popish-Plot, which is generally considered the earliest example of a signed balloon comic strip.[10]

^^^bad not good

mark s, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

people underrate john oates’ first blue-eyed soul duo with steve ‘popish’ plot, glad to see them getting their due here

brought a kiss to the knife fight (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

Even when he was sober, his violence was sufficiently frightful. But in general his reason was overclouded and his evil passions stimulated by the fumes of intoxication. His evenings were ordinarily given to revelry. People who saw him only over his bottle would have supposed him to be a man gross indeed, sottish, and addicted to low company and low merriment, but social and goodhumoured. He was constantly surrounded on such occasions by buffoons selected, for the most part, from among the vilest pettifoggers who practiced before him. These men bantered and abused each other for his entertainment. He joined in their ribald talk, sang catches with them, and, when his head grew hot, hugged and kissed them in an ecstasy of drunken fondness. But though wine at first seemed to soften his heart, the effect a few hours later was very different. He often came to the judgment seat, having kept the court waiting long, and yet having but half slept off his debauch, his cheeks on fire, his eyes staring like those of a maniac. When he was in this state, his boon companions of the preceding night, if they were wise, kept out of his way: for the recollection of the familiarity to which he had admitted them inflamed his malignity; and he was sure to take every opportunity of overwhelming them with execration and invective. Not the least odious of his many odious peculiarities was the pleasure which he took in publicly browbeating and mortifying those whom, in his fits of maudlin tenderness, he had encouraged to presume on his favour.

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

^^^ me posting with a hangover

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

He was constantly surrounded on such occasions by buffoons selected, for the most part, from among the vilest pettifoggers who practiced before him.

it me

mh, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

misread as scottish tbph

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

If Macaulay could have backed it up he'd have accused him of that too

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

why do i keep listening to the red thread

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 December 2019 06:17 (four years ago) link

and that's fuckin serious

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 December 2019 06:24 (four years ago) link

here comes the blue wave, stuck here in I don't know, unsure whether this feeling of static unspoken sadness and empty routine is my fault somehow or the natural ambience of the home I grew up in

or the truth in the middle, melty

fuck me is this a life I wonder if I'm not getting where my emptiness comes from or just letting my own self-important gloom cover every scene around me

could really do with a cig and some time in the pub but not here

Bojo Rabid (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 December 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link

would resolution in yr head either way lead to a positive action tho

i blame yr angle on epiphenomenalism/free will tbph, i was shook at the time and remain so whenever i forget to forget

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Friday, 27 December 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link

I'll be the better for not being stuck at my mom's tbh.

My first memory of feeling unreal goes back to age 10 or 11. First memory of death terror maybe a couple of years before that, first memory of the pointless blues maybe a couple of years after.

None of this is necessarily bad or hopeless in itself and might be an entirely appropriate way of being in the world. The personal problems come about when this drift/paralysis makes it hard to fulfil the duties our society mostly demands in exchange for food and shelter but that's another day, I get the deal, we can negotiate.

There's always this weird absent sterility in my parents's home tho, it feels like the heart of the blueness. Silence and normalcy and lives hardly lived (and when the old man was alive the steady, uncompromising but often ignorable pressure for me to conform to that normalcy and embrace his void as the only reality). It aggravates my own self-imposed feebleness, lack of money and transport and agency. The worst'll pass when I can get out of here.

It's not despair. I could make a passable happy ghost, just observe life and drift thru it. I've lost my thread a little. It's always been stifling here. I just dunno if that's me or them.

Bojo Rabid (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 December 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

How you doing today NV?

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 28 December 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link

Been OK. It's part blueness and part uncomfortable self-analysis I think. Since I switched to Effexor from Citalopram my head seems to be gaining some clarity and some emotional thawing and that's necessarily painful. Not that families aren't weird, as I said elsewhere. I knew before I came that it wasn't the best moment to be stuck away from home and unable to get on with life stuff but the down time is probably not a bad thing. Also had a good chat with mom and Sis this evening, albeit mostly about old eps of Eastenders.

I don't think I'm alone in reverting to a level of frustrated powerlessness around my parents.

Bojo Rabid (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 December 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

No, definitely not.

glindr jackson (gyac), Saturday, 28 December 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

Truth about this last week is it ended up being a haven of peaceful stasis. Now I'm stood on the train platform, sour and edgy and a little anxious at having to take life off pause. And I want a cig and yeah a drink and that's OK, I'm not asking for purity just a little control.

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 January 2020 10:15 (four years ago) link

I’m at the vet this morning. Someone decided to hoover which upset both kittens, but now there are two Doberman puppies here and they’re cute.

Mood is much better since time off, feel am reaching a decision on something.

How are you now NV?

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 10:09 (four years ago) link

To be honest I'm not well, full of self-pity and suicide thoughts and I'm embarrassed by it. I just want to shut/fold up. Stupid honesty.

The Masked Zinger (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 January 2020 12:17 (four years ago) link

shtyupit revulsion emulsion at my own state of me and the imagined horror of someone finding your half-naked corpse and the. It dawns we all exit as naked fleshlunps the last indignity

The Masked Zinger (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 January 2020 13:21 (four years ago) link

Pewll out Yr drugs #nd snort owl Yr plugss

The Masked Zinger (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 January 2020 13:22 (four years ago) link

would you not wait out the end of the season at least

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 13:23 (four years ago) link

I talk a big game and then the minute I get these weird brain spasms that feel like imminent death I freak the fuck out. I seem to have googled "painless" at some point last night. Am watching god-botherer cartoons cos there's fuck all else on and I can't get it together to play video games

The Masked Zinger (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

omfg this happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gLT0vrda4k

The Masked Zinger (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link

Surely this is the daddy of insane religious cartoons?

https://youtu.be/NTnjhUUzaEg

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link

making ulysses 2000 jesus qualifies it for me tbh

Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

In counselling waiting room. God knows what I've got to say.

the Swedish taboo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 January 2020 08:57 (four years ago) link

You can always whistle if you're lost for words. Good luck man <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 January 2020 08:57 (four years ago) link

give em hell, if you got it

Catherine, Boner of JP Sweeney & Co (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 January 2020 08:59 (four years ago) link

good place to be imo, glad you made it there at all - good luck buddy

Day's off to a strong start. Here's a fist bump. 🤜

pomenitul, Thursday, 23 January 2020 09:24 (four years ago) link

Say what you feel, sometimes it comes out uglier than you expect, but they are professionals. Good luck!

steer karma (gyac), Thursday, 23 January 2020 09:24 (four years ago) link

good luck NV!

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 23 January 2020 09:28 (four years ago) link

Yeah, they've seen a lot - good luck and take care!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 January 2020 09:29 (four years ago) link

good luck mr vague!

ymo sumac (NickB), Thursday, 23 January 2020 09:42 (four years ago) link

Didn't shut up for the duration :D

the Swedish taboo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 January 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link

👍

chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 January 2020 09:52 (four years ago) link

Solid value for money focus

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 January 2020 10:28 (four years ago) link

Good stuff

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 January 2020 10:31 (four years ago) link

i had thoughts but that's me done thinking for a day or two. counsellor seemed good. go back in two weeks to start working on my nonsense properly.

the Swedish taboo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 January 2020 10:34 (four years ago) link

at least this was incentive to have a shave this morning

the Swedish taboo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 January 2020 10:35 (four years ago) link

anxiously misread this as "go back in two tweets to start working on my nonsense properly"

good luck w/everything NV!

mark s, Thursday, 23 January 2020 10:40 (four years ago) link

well now here's my theme music today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cw2PeikVgo

the Swedish taboo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link

Was this your first time doing something like this and does your head feel cleaned out of shite?

steer karma (gyac), Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link

no it was my umpteenth time and i still felt woozy afterward - didn't sleep properly last night and this was the first time i'd had to get up this early in ages. but the counsellor seems like she gets me and i feel like i get her, this could be productive. and altho it was just me rambling i felt like i at least pulled out some threads that are part of my long term dissatisfaction. two weeks is a long wait between appointments and this was just an intro really. i need to do some thinking obviously but thinking is hard and i'm often told i think too much, i dunno, Wolves are on tonight, i'm going to watch them in the pub and start doing difficult stuff on Monday or something, lol another Monday.

the Swedish taboo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link

(Dé?) Luain gorm imo. Pissy cold weather and I’m going to Scotland tomorrow where it will undoubtedly not improve on that aspect. Am looking forward to not being woken by kittens though.

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

stalled by a sudden glum wave today: i'm surrounded by a proposal i'm about to send off, another one i think i've cracked (and anyway i'm sending it first to advisers not the actual target), the page i'm preparing for the professional org i just successfully (if very belatedly) joined, a mountain of research material for a big long piece for an anthology i kinda effed up the first draft of but got a very helpful and not-too-rude feedback report from the editor plus an extension yay, and i have another good proposal idea just motored into my brain yesterday…

but ppl on twitter were discussing the medium-term health of *two* mags i want to start working for (possibly bad) (which isn't a surprise to me but), and do i really want to move into e.g. academic research even if it makes (some) sense in the wake of the book? it's not like it's a happy sinecure lol. and i'm all too aware i owe a bunch of ppl a bunch of stuff which they've already paid for and the money is long spent, and instead i'm scrabbling around for subbing work and writing assignations (and getting some but nothing long or lasting so i have to start scrabbling again before i finish) (and i always put so much work into the writing that the money i've been paid is in the end negligeable): i ought to be much more employable than i seem to be but i don't seem to know how to re-tool my self-presentation after i quit my nice safe magazine-proofing space to do the book, and it all collapsed after i left.

and if my health isn't getting worse it isn't getting better, and shouldn't i just be thinking abt selling up and retiring somewhere cheap and picturesque except it feels like giving up ? and all i can think as i nervelessly look at place i can afford is that ppl i know and care abt are all scattered to every point of the country and if i move near one the others will all be offended but if i move near none if in ten years (if i have ten years) i'll be near no one and that seems bad too. i don't actually want to move out of london but i'm hardly going out and about much in london any more…

some of this i'm know is just belated deflation after the book getting published and vanishing quietly in a super-chaotic world (exactly as i knew it would lol lol). but some of it is feeling that my time is passing and the things i very much cared about and committed myself to made no great difference then or since -- if they didn't actually make things worse they didn't stop things getting worse, and i can honestly feel my "fuck you then, this is all wrong and will end badly but YOU do it YOUR way" responses (tantrums) gathering and gathering. plus the space i so much wanted to work at the heart of in my 20s and 30s has just become so unremittingly dreadful except in tiny pockets (and their medium-term health etc etc) and while in a sense i still trust my instincts (i am very arrogant) i know perfectly well and have always known that they are not pointed towards breakthrough success and never were. good work that a tiny number of people appreciate. if it pays some bills that's a bonus. which bonus increasingly rarely comes. my best breaks always came when one of the tiny number of people acted off their own bat to point me in a good direction (or lol even to employ me). all the good jobs i ever got i got bcz someone else noticed they were advertising and pointed me to the advert (and coaxed me into applying) -- except the best one, where i was just rung up out of the blue and asked if i wanted to do it.

so i'm just about ready to send off the first proposal -- the delivery guy just this minute brought me my printer ink, which is sort why why i had this space to go glum and vent -- and here i am thinking "how will i feel if they say YES? happy? or just harrassed all over again?"

half of these seem like way better problems to have than many ppl's problems on this thread -- "oh noes what if they like my idea?" -- so tl;dr i got old and how did that happen, is there game reset?

mark s, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 12:30 (four years ago) link

<3

i'm taking my daughter to the pub but i wanted to acknowledge that post and come back to think about it later

i find myself wanting to reset a lot because the speed setting was wrong, yeah we got older and it was too quick

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 13:43 (four years ago) link

oh and yr problems seem very much similar mostly: how the fuck to LIVE? (and less importantly make a living)

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link

mark I have nothing useful to say but I know one of my in laws got your book for Christmas and was ecstatic about it

but you should stay in London if you’re happy there. no point in feeling the same somewhere that’s not for you.

steer karma (gyac), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link

Trust me, mark, you'd have even less of a readership within the confines of academia. Keep up the quality work.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:09 (four years ago) link

And books don't vanish, they go on undercover missions out there unbeknownst to their parents

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link

So I like to tell myself as well. And occasionally those missions turn out to be successful.

See also: Paul Celan's definition of the poem –

A poem, as a manifestation of language and thus essentially dialogue, can be a message in a bottle, sent out in the—not always greatly hopeful—belief that somewhere and sometime it could wash up on land, on heartland perhaps. Poems in this sense too are under way: they are making toward something.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:17 (four years ago) link

What the others said and <3 "How the fuck to live" nails it imo. I def feel the dread of it not being satisfying enough for oneself, having to settle for 'it didn't make things worse'. Your work is quality, proven over and over.

xp That's beautiful.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link

Books definitely don’t vanish. One of my longest loved books is one that is extremely obscure and probably only had one print run - if I knew how to contact the author and tell him how much that book meant to me, I would. If he’s still alive, he’s probably thinking similar things without knowing that he made such an impression on me over the years.

steer karma (gyac), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:25 (four years ago) link

One of my favourites has a wiki page but the link to the author is red text :/

You remain a wonder, Mark - you have rolled the wheel of the world on a few inches and sown a few minds. And I'm pretty sure you have some divilment left in you.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link

a reason i am fond of ilx is when i first arrived here 20 odd years ago i discovered readers of my old 80s work at nme and wire who were delighted to encounter me and say nice things abt ancient magazine nonsense -- so yes, i do retain my trust in the old "digging a tunnel under world" aspect of it all. i arrived in a bit of a blue mood then also -- i'd recently lost a job i'd really enjoyed (they slimmed down the subs desk and i landed here while was surfing on the internet at my new job which i hadn't yet come to enjoy)* and also i'd recently wrecked a friendship by falling in LOVE and being a bit of a dick abt it (i was miserable and inevitably made the other person miserable too)… so this is where i re-found my feet and got the idea for my first book (starting a thread abt if… and discussing it w/norman phay among others) and also met the gang that included the person who gave me the connections to set up the birkbeck conference which led to the more recent book (= the pinefox! hullo pinefox!) -- so i *can* be pro-active and effective now and then, contra my claims above

my default when i'm stumped or baffled is to plunge deep back into detail, literally making sure the i's are all dotted and balancing this with cryptic mischief here and elsewhere -- and generally that's fine. but i need to get another couple of larger things out into the world before i really am too old and slow, and one of them is something i've spent decades trying to make happen and a lot of it already exists but somehow it always feels like all the doors are shut against it unless i win the lottery and pay for it that way (which i won't bcz i don't do the lottery)

*i stayed for 14 years in the end and it served me p well, and when i quit it all fell apart quite quickly so i couldn't go back but also OK maybe i was a valued part of it

mark s, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

anyway many thx for all the pleasing and supportive things ppl have said!

mark s, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

i enjoy your posts as much as your writing gigs, mark!

babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

or perhaps a better word is appreciate, given the thread

babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

hi mark yr good not bad

(darraghpc) vs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

whenever i get the sads i just remember that the world ended on december 21 2012 and it helps tbh

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link

also who knows, i might get to drink tomb juice one day

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link

I'll never be a lawyer, cos I can't pass the bar

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link

that’s a lovely post from mark. i’m tired and a bit drunk and in bed but i am feeling a lot of warmth to everyone here.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link

Blue, weirdly, is the warmest colour

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link

I happened to come across this interview with Henry Rollins earlier today. About work ethic, what motivates and drives you. And in light of Mark S. recent post I thought I'd share. Sure enough there's a lot here I emphasize with or recognize.
Rollins says he sees writing (books) as 'shipbuilding': "I’m a shipbuilder. I don’t want to sail in them. I want you to sail in them. I’m just happy that they leave the harbor so I can have an empty workplace."

Full thing is here: https://thecreativeindependent.com/people/henry-rollins-on-defining-success/

I’m not a tough guy. I’m not brave. I’m just curious. I’m very well aware of how quickly life goes. You know, Ian [MacKaye] and I both have a lot of dead friends. Everything from suicide to overdose to wrong place, wrong time. There’s a lot to get done. Whether you want to deal with that or not is up to the individual. You just make up your mind, like, “I’m gonna write this book.” How many people are gonna read it? I don’t care. How can I control that? I just want to do the damn thing. That allows me to go unrestrained.
I always have like five books going at once. That anyone will read them, that’d be cool. But I’m not making them to get read; I’m making them to get them out of me. You gotta do something with your life. You can watch TV. You can inhale cocaine. Or you can sit down and write, or sing, or jump up and down, whatever it is. It’s all just choices. So much of this is just committing to the time and the discipline and the agony of creativity—because it turns on you all the time.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 30 January 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link

another middle of the night blue cos can't be with the people I love always and forever and because I was unnecessarily fractious on ILX which started as a joke but was really just my sore head and I apologise, there's no need, hate it when I do stuff that irritates me when other people do it

Just I don't know the pub is there to not be alone and then you realise wow I was still very alone and everything vanished like a ghost house. The wrong vices, timidly, insanely, boringly, needily not even self-destructive or not. I think I'd avoid myself after a certain point in the evening. Counsellor said something biochemical about the weird feeling of clarity that comes in the middle of the night but I can't remember right now and anyway

yeah it's all biochemical but the existential, the whyness of it. Is there only distance? How did I get raised so needy and unsatisfied by accident?

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 January 2020 01:17 (four years ago) link

hate it when I do stuff that irritates me when other people do it

i know you set yr standards in these affairs v high bud, but the above behaviour is basically 'existence' afaict

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 31 January 2020 08:57 (four years ago) link

hi NV and mark, you're good people - all the best. sorry I can't offer any more eloquent or stirring encouragement but there it is

thanks for the Henry Rollins quotes LBI, I had thought I was past the stage of my life where Henry Rollins would be inspiring but nope, that's pretty good there

also I'd love to read more about "something biochemical about the weird feeling of clarity that comes in the middle of the night" but I have no idea what to Google for and it's somehow apt to leave it as a dark, half-understood concept

also, pt.2 - mark s twitter recommendee J4m3s Butl3r posted some Celan y/day and I thought how I should really read* more (some, any) of his stuff and then I read this thread and pomenitul's also great Celan quotation, so - where to start? (there is probably a better thread for this)

* read = buy, perhaps in German, and file unread next to the similarly unread book of Rilke poems my German is very much not good enough for, or perhaps the other clump of unread German books, which coincidentally are next to mark s's book which I also have not read yet, ugh @ me

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 31 January 2020 13:19 (four years ago) link

thanks spacey i am going to go back to the middle of the night thing next time i see the counsellor. something to do with chemicals in the brain subsiding it was.

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 January 2020 13:28 (four years ago) link

also lol full disclosure i had always assumed Celan was French because of how his nom de plume looks

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 January 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link

aps, I suggest starting with Selections (edited and with an introduction by the great Pierre Joris).

pomenitul, Friday, 31 January 2020 13:33 (four years ago) link

Even if your German is lacking (as mine is, and direly at that), hearing him read his work is a shattering experience imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhO81S666Ok

pomenitul, Friday, 31 January 2020 13:37 (four years ago) link

I'd also like to point out that his brief and little-known stint as a Romanian-language poet in the early 1940s is no less remarkable and I prefer his work from that period to most of his contemporaries'.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 January 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link

thank you, pom! (and NV too)

I hope to investigate your recommended title via a library soon, and possibly a bilingual edition of poems too, though that's out on loan. Are there good English translations of the early Romanian work?

the aforementioned James B tweet included a link to Celan reading Todesfuge, and, yes, remarkable, shattering.

(pom's link has English subtitles if you turn CC on and that one ^ does not, alas, but the tweet thread links to the text of a couple of English translations)

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 31 January 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link

My pleasure! Selections features one of the early Romanian poems – a Surrealistic pastiche of sorts, but hardly the piece I would have picked to represent that facet of his work. Reportedly, there's a 2003 volume that collects them all in English, but I have no idea what those translations are worth.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 January 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

a low so low I don't even want to begin to describe it. I feel like I've been nothing but a burden, a user, a disappointment all my life. perfectly self-absorbed child, even this fucking thread is a manifestation of that.

I don't have a melodramatic solution to it. I know reality is never as extreme as I'm feeling it, or at least I know that's what I'd tell somebody else. But that doesn't mean those feelings can't be broadly true, doesn't mean "depression" can't be a selfish self-dramatising response to selfishness.

I'm lying here feeling like the end of the world with a little inner voice telling myself (or the outside world, I don't know) that recognition is part of recovery. But the sheer amount of work to climb out of here, to change myself, to have a viable future for anybody - it feels insurmountable, or it feels like I'm buried under it.

so I lie here passive and create a wilderness and call it self-care.

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link

How are you doing now NV?

I have had a bad enough week with mine, but on top of that I’m very tired (I think I’m coming down) so I’m not really dwelling on it. The two are possibly interrelated as well - I am always very tired after a bad spell of it. Having said that all my sinuses seem to be going off at once, so. Probably shouldn’t be reading The Stand atm!

hyds (gyac), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link

I don't know if people who haven't experienced it realise how physical mental health stuff can be sometimes.

I had a good session with my counselor yesterday. Dunno if it was "productive" but it was grown-up and I felt understood and I feel like I can see the beginnings of a possible path forward.

So after I went to the pub and well I *probably* shouldn't have but I mostly enjoyed it and it was mostly therapeutic but I should probably not do the buzzer in the pub quiz after an all dayer.

And now I'm a bit hungover and my brain if not yet my stomach is hungry and I can't be bothered to put outside clothes on or cook anything but I really want sweeties and I shouldn't spend Just Eat money so maybe I'll sneak up behind myself and go out before I realise what I'm doing.

And the psychic devastation is well down from Monday but I really really have to do stuff and I might be kidding myself about my own capacity to do stuff, we'll see, it's the weekend anyway even if I am a layabout, I will try to try on Monday.

Oh and I don't think my daughter's talking to me at the moment but hopefully that will pass.

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link

Well I’m glad you’re getting something from therapy! And yeah, get something to eat like. I just remembered I have black pudding at home which I can eat tomorrow, which is good cos my iron could always do with a boosting.

Otm re physical symptoms of MH, I wish I had known this 20 years ago because things would have made so much more sense.

Are you doing anything this weekend?

hyds (gyac), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link

Probably lying around the house playing video games but I've gone out for walks twice this week and enjoyed it, I should probably make the effort if the weather's not lousy.

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link

Storm blowing outside, it was nice listening to the rain last night. Since I've been on the effexor I've had a lot of vivid dreams, which is a mixed blessing. And this morning was the return of a long lost frenemy, the dream of being loved and in love, like being sixteen again.

The worst of that being the real aching loss when you wake up and it's not real and you're alone and old. And I don't have getting drunk money and the storm is blowing outside and the blue is such a mirror image of actual joy that you treasure it anyway because.

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 February 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link

I was out in that storm and got drenched to the bone in two minutes, that wasn't rain it was like a wall of water landing on me.

calzino, Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:18 (four years ago) link

got a nice little soundclash between loud cracks of thunder, howling wind and the colin stetson color out of space soundtrack. please don't fail me national grid, i'm enjoying this!

calzino, Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link

Pretty windy here, haven’t been out in it. The kittens aren’t fans of it.

hyds (gyac), Sunday, 9 February 2020 11:43 (four years ago) link

<3 to all

fabulous weather noises; should go out as I barely left the house y/day and 2 days without much fresh air or exercise or variation in real not-on-screen things to look at will not be good for my mental health throughout the week, but don't want to be out in this

cat was meeping constantly, possibly because of the wind/rain noises but perhaps just because, but has now settled down on her cat tree to glare at everyone and fall asleep (cat otm)

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 9 February 2020 12:02 (four years ago) link

before previous big storm warnings i've always taken in the various flowerpots and herb-pots and little trees on my window sill, in case they blow off. This time I left it too late -- tho London is threatening 30mph rather than 80mph so fingers x-ed it will be OK. The tree is "safely" tied, and anyway no one will be out and about in the garden below to be brained by anything

mark s, Sunday, 9 February 2020 12:06 (four years ago) link

actually i might take this opp to dig up all the invasive chickweed and let it blow free (and away) lol

mark s, Sunday, 9 February 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link

Not much signs of any storm here, that's London for you, nothing interesting ever happens weatherwise.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 February 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link

... God heard me, thunder! Yasssssss!

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 February 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link

... and now the wind shaking the trees. It's like "Night of the Demon" all of a sudden.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 February 2020 12:22 (four years ago) link

i was just listening to the commentator at Millwall, sounds like they're not short of weather right now

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 February 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link

Bit of my fence has blown down, that's fun

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 9 February 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link

I am in Corbynland, we are sheltered from storms by our preening self-righteousness.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 February 2020 13:21 (four years ago) link

Blew Sunday

wee jim o’conor (wins), Sunday, 9 February 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link

It’s taken me from 11.15am to get from Bath to the outskirts of London, and I’m still approaching Paddington now. But the unusual weather, Blitz spirit and trusting to fate nature of the journey have been quite entertaining in their way.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 9 February 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

LOL, the storm has definitely reached Islington.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 February 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link

xp ironic that it's slowed you down heading east, apparently a passenger jet broke the subsonic transatlantic record today thanks to the storm

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

I was hoping it would reach France in time to cancel the Six Nations match so I could sit in the pub quietly without the advertised big screen blaring and tossers in rugby shirts elbowing me at the bar - match went ahead but it did stop anyone else turning up except one other couple who also weren't watching, so the sound was thankfully on mute and no injuries were sustained

(apologies to those of you who actually enjoy that stuff)

some hefty lower branches of the tree out front have come down, hope the council won't take this as an excuse to cut the whole thing down, they already cut down a row of mature trees opposite

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link

Fence tipped over here too, and the recycling bins with it. One for the Real England thread? Or so I like to picture it.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

those Hebden Bridge pics/vids from today are grim watching. Glad I live on top of a huge mountain, well sort of a hill but locals call it a mountain.

calzino, Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link

^^ Calder Valley suffers every single time. It was really bad in Mytholmroyd, too.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link

In Todmorden they were using ww2 air raid sirens as a flood warning!

calzino, Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

I need to change the litter trays and I am not looking forward to it!

hyds (gyac), Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link

I love that this is turning into the de facto Storm Ciara thread

El Tomboto, Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link

its pronounced ciara

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link

apparently extensive draining of grouse moors so toffs can go shooting is one of the factors that has worsened Calder Valley flooding. Maybe because Hebden Bridge is such a bohemian mecca for gays, eccentrics and lefties this is another front on the culture/class wars battlefield!

calzino, Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:03 (four years ago) link

In Todmorden they were using ww2 air raid sirens as a flood warning!

― calzino, Sunday, February 9, 2020 7:52 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

In H B as well iirc. I never had to hear them when I lived there, thankfully. Well and also, like you, living up on a hill helps a lot.

xp lol

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:03 (four years ago) link

Wind has died down here but still a bit rainy - waiting to see before I go out and try to avoid getting cat litter blown everywhere.

hyds (gyac), Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link

i was gonna say before Hebden Bridge is like the Portland of England, maybe the flood water is being deliberately targeted

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link

Hebden Bridge's reputation as incredible edible hippy nirvana is way bigger than what it's actually like there tbf (though the chai latte places do their part to amplify the stereotype). It's a good sell I suppose. Still don't wish them people any harm though. Well not most of them anyway.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link

oh i don't wish them harm, i was thinking of the ill intent of local landowners/county councillors

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

Oh I see, yeah. I've not been keeping close track on if the millions that were promised this to counter this were paid out, and what they did with it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

I went out in the worst yesterday, and was rewarded by one of the few people in Homebase being the LOTO - unsurprisingly he's got a good line in waterproofs, not clear whether it includes the cap.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 February 2020 07:55 (four years ago) link

it is easy to laugh at people in waterproofs but it sure beats the hell out of getting drenched!

calzino, Monday, 10 February 2020 08:01 (four years ago) link

I could imagine him having very good advice on the best affordable brands of outdoor gear.

calzino, Monday, 10 February 2020 08:09 (four years ago) link

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6921467.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Labour-party-leader-Jeremy-Corbyn.jpg please say he was wearing something like this

hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 08:12 (four years ago) link

No, but there was a respectable amount of red!

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 February 2020 08:43 (four years ago) link

Red Sunday

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:59 (four years ago) link

green monday

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link

apparently so

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 February 2020 10:46 (four years ago) link

Grey grey grey.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Monday, 10 February 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link

after the weekend storm updates itt I hope someone will have some snow to report

just refreshing https://uksnowmap.com/ repeatedly, I am bored and require fluffy white things to look at

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 10 February 2020 15:19 (four years ago) link

Kinda looks like Corbz has pissed himself there, poor auld fella.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link

all I want is legal soma, is that so much to ask?

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link

Sorry, wrong thread (wouldn’t joke about this behind your back to your face, so to speak):


The new government will have your back on that

hyds (gyac), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link

In which case I welcome our alpha overlords

Todd Phillips, party auteur (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link

Lately I'm forgotten here
Isolated, feeling queer
When you were looking in the mirror
Did you see the future's lies
They march right on in time
And straight into the pool
Oh so quick and cool

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

I want to die. I don't want to die.

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link

Don’t die, you’ll miss awful people dying.

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link

The wanting to die gets its bluff called when my DTs convince me my heart or brain are stopping. But my life is a wreck and I'd be one of the awful people so on the whole Canada is a land of contrasts.

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link

Thanatos & Eros 4 eva and eva

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link

You really think you compare to Kissinger or Blair or Murdoch? Come on, you know you’re not awful.

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link

Every day is like traipsing around some endless shitty golf course in the rain, hole after fucking hole, doesn't matter if you play well or badly there's always another dismal grey fairway stretching out in front of you. Whole game is run by people you hate, the clubhouse is a nightmare but you never manage to reach it anyway. Is that your new BMW in the car park? asked no-one of you ever. you have no idea why you're here but you're either too stubborn or vain to quit, even though you're completely uninterested in the sport and you're fucking rubbish at it anyway. Lie down in a bunker, press your face into that cold wet sand, feels so real, so inarguable, and yet it may as well be on another planet to that other nauseating reality of the thoughts and feelings burgeoning inside you like some hot and troublesome bowelful of shit. I regret typing this stupid nonsense already, cos all I really wanted to say really is that I hear you. Solidarity nv!

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

If only Camus was a golfer 😊

I guess really awful people murder others, I just disappoint them. Counselling tomorrow thank fuck. Nearly forgot cos I'm not sure what day it is.

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

Just had a vivid flashback to being a teenager and the claustrophobia crossed with vertigo nearly finished me off.

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link

I hear you too NV, existence is terrible but we have to carry on together, if only to spite those who hate us

median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

everyone otm <3

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

welp it's that day

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 February 2020 11:40 (four years ago) link

that’s right babey it’s the 36th anniversary of the day pierre trudeau announced his retirement as liberal party leader and prime minister of canada

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 29 February 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link

pouring one several out

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 February 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link

it's not me, it's me

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 March 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link

hi nv

you followin our non govt forming over here at all, lad

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 March 2020 01:33 (four years ago) link

i tuned out for a bit after the 1st-3rd count tbh.

i had some thoughts/questions about FF/FG but i'm battered and they'll wait. just deleted some ill-formed questions about Sinn Fein in the republic as well and yeah that'll do for now. NI as the East Germany (1989-ish) of the UK etc

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 March 2020 02:38 (four years ago) link

Started watching The Odessa File for the umpteenth time but it's legit too anxiety-inducing to deal with today. I'm going to the pub even tho that's very financially irresponsible because beer and football and quiz night laffs with friends and fuck it

Psychedics with Rosie Swash (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link

ach on second thoughts i'll just have a cig and chill, got to cut your cloth accordingly innit

Psychedics with Rosie Swash (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link

Turns out a 12 hour bender after a fortnight of enforced abstinence has unfortunate physical consequences. Who knew?

I can't pay no doctor bill, but Whitey's on the McAloon (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 March 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link

I didn't know where else to put this

THE GREAT CHINESE STAGE

1. Create a virus and the antidote.

2. Spread the virus.

3. A demonstration of efficiency, building hospitals in a few days. After all, you were already prepared, with the projects, ordering the equipment, hiring the labor, the water and sewage network, the prefabricated building materials and stocked in an impressive volume.

4. Cause chaos in the world, starting with Europe.

5. Quickly plaster the economy of dozens of countries.

6. Stop production lines in factories in other countries.

7. Cause stock markets to fall and buy companies at a bargain price.

8. Quickly control the epidemic in your country. After all, you were already prepared.

9. Lower the price of commodities, including the price of oil you buy on a large scale.

10. Get back to producing quickly while the world is at a standstill. Buy what you negotiated cheaply in the crisis and sell more expensive what is lacking in countries that have paralyzed their industries.

After all, you read more Confucius than Karl Marx.

*PS: Before laughing, read the book by Chinese colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, from 1999, “Unrestricted Warfare: China’s master plan to destroy America”, on Amazon, then we talk. It's all there.*

Worth pondering..
Just Think about this...

How come Russia & North Korea are totally free of Covid- 19? Because they are staunch ally of China. Not a single case reported from this 2 countries. On the other hand South Korea / United Kingdom / Italy / Spain and Asia are severely hit. How come Wuhan is suddenly free from the deadly virus?

China will say that their drastic initial measures they took was very stern and Wuhan was locked down to contain the spread to other areas. I am sure they are using the Anti dode of the virus.

Why Beijing was not hit? Why only Wuhan? Kind of interesting to ponder upon.. right? Well ..Wuhan is open for business now. America and all the above mentioned countries are devastated financially. Soon American economy will collapse as planned by China. China knows it CANNOT defeat America militarily as USA is at present

THE MOST POWERFUL country in the world. So use the virus...to cripple the economy and paralyse the nation and its Defense capabilities. I'm sure Nancy Pelosi got a part in this. . to topple Trump. Lately President Trump was always telling of how GREAT American economy was improving in all fronts. The only way to destroy his vision of making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is to create an economic havoc. Nancy Pelosi was unable to bring down Trump thru impeachment. ....so work along with China to destroy Trump by releasing a virus. Wuhan,s epidemic was a showcase. At the peak of the virus epidemic. ..

China's President Xi Jinping...just wore a simple RM1 facemask to visit those effected areas. As President he should be covered from head to toe.....but it was not the case. He was already injected to resist any harm from the virus....that means a cure was already in place before the virus was released.

Some may ask....Bill Gates already predicted the outbreak in 2015...so the chinese agenda cannot be true. The answer is. ..YES...Bill Gates did predict. .but that prediction is based on a genuine virus outbreak. Now China is also telling that the virus was predicted well in advance. ....so that its agenda would play along well to match that prediction. China,s vision is to control the World economy by buying up stocks now from countries facing the brink of severe ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Later China will announce that their Medical Researchers have found a cure to destroy the virus. Now China have other countries stocks in their arsenal and these countries will soon be slave to their master...CHINA.

Just Think about it ...
The Doctor Who declared this virus was also Silenced by the Chinese Authorities...

Thoughts??

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link

was with em til pelosi, everyone knows she hates asians

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link

Just Think about it

No.

coco vide (pomenitul), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link

truly we live in a new enlightenment

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:23 (four years ago) link

THE SUN RISES IN THE EAST

THAT'S WHERE THE LIGHT COMES FROM

JUST THINK ABOUT IT

coco vide (pomenitul), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:23 (four years ago) link

I'd worry more but it's too long for Trump to ever read

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:24 (four years ago) link

I shd've started a thread for all of these social media conspiracies - got sent a good one about a Chinese drama series from 2010 today as well - but there's more than enough rona threads already and it's late and I'm sleepy

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:26 (four years ago) link

Everybody gets ill and dies in A Dream of Red Mansions too so maybe these lads are onto something

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link

*PS: Before laughing, read the book by Chinese colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, from 1999, “Unrestricted Warfare: China’s master plan to destroy America”, on Amazon, then we talk. It's all there.

"then we talk"!!!!

calzino, Friday, 27 March 2020 01:30 (four years ago) link

The Doctor Who

they cornered the market on sonic screwdrivers too

mookieproof, Friday, 27 March 2020 01:31 (four years ago) link

lol a quick Google for that book reveals it used to be about how China did 9/11

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:31 (four years ago) link

I got sent that conspiracy shit in my family WhatsApp yesterday ffs, I did not expect to see it there.

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 08:40 (four years ago) link

then we talk

please let's not.

The Doctor Who declared this virus was also Silenced by the Chinese Authorities...

I remember the Doctor Who with the Silence but I didn't realise they were Chinese

this is making me glad I'm not on Facebook, which I've had mixed feelings about in general and particularly over the past week or two

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 27 March 2020 10:09 (four years ago) link

I haven’t accepted my mother’s friend request on FB, the bad conservative memes I get on Messenger are punishment enough.

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 27 March 2020 10:24 (four years ago) link

When my mother had an FB account she was upset cos I wouldn’t accept her, but I was entirely justified by 30 years of experience. One time I changed my cover photo and she messaged me within like an hour to ask what it was.

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 10:28 (four years ago) link

my mum told me on the WhatsApp to tone down my language on fb otherwise I might lose my job for calling the pm a cunt

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Friday, 27 March 2020 10:33 (four years ago) link

Lol this is exactly why I didn’t have mine on there (not for my political opinions, which I don’t do on FB, but because I do say “cunt” pretty casually and it’d upset her).

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 10:36 (four years ago) link

Hahahahaha

Tbf, the messages annoying me the most on FB are still coming From Labour supporters giving it "now is not the time for politics, let's come together as a nation"

It's tried my patience this week, but in general I kinda like the "all human life is here" silliness of social media

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 10:39 (four years ago) link

same - although I do tend to keep work people off there. I have a couple but I think they're cool, we'll find out when I get the sack I guess

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Friday, 27 March 2020 10:58 (four years ago) link

Luckily my mother is one of the 0.01% of American women unbothered by the word ‘cunt’ - we tend to ‘cunt!’ tag-team at my sister because the way she loses her shit at our language is hilarious.

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 27 March 2020 11:01 (four years ago) link

I basically only use mine to access two meme groups, I’m on ilx a lot more than FB/Twitter.

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 11:02 (four years ago) link

interesting (very) long read on recent chinese social conditions (inc.its post-socialist health structures) as these interact with internal and also global markets, and role of all this in recent and not-so-recent pandemics:
http://chuangcn.org/2020/02/social-contagion/

(this is a weird thread to out it on but at a minimum it's a good counterpoint to the conspiracy theories upthread, also weirdly: if you know a better thread for it, by all means post it there also)

mark s, Friday, 27 March 2020 12:22 (four years ago) link

there's at least one specific China thread but Blue Saturday is a broad church

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 12:24 (four years ago) link

ok, i got a bottle of rum, enough baccy, a massive random playlist of tunes, it's FRIDAY

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 13:26 (four years ago) link

Noice

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 13:27 (four years ago) link

Ever glad for this thread which is an oasis of goodness on ilx

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link

no oasis in this thread, sorry

my globe-trotting boy is back in the country, had to circumnavigate the globe for work. apparently he's off to Sweden in a fortnight, so i think we've found patient zero

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 13:35 (four years ago) link

gee i miss the pub

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 March 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link

I walked to school the other day - a weird journey in all sorts of ways, not least because of how close it was, given how fucking long it takes me to drive there each day. I walked past various absences but it was the three pubs on the way I could hardly bear to look at.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

fuck knows what happened towards the end of yesterday evening, i woke up in bed with Police Academy on the TV at some point. i think i might've fallen over because there are a bunch of ouch points around my body, lol home drinking.

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link

I’m definitely having a bit of a wobble, I’d been doing pretty well before all this (sober since start of year, starting to get shit together) but plague makes monkeys of us all. I’m basically giving myself a pass for the rest of March and then I have to snap out of it somewhat because i) fancy deliveroo wine is an indulgence I cannot afford and ii) it is a very bad idea to be hungover right now

However my discounted craft beer crate just turned up so today I will be drinking to the memory of cafés and bookshops and trying not to think about how I took in the delivery and immediately touched my face 😄

(Then I will have to ring up and ditch them yet again, I wonder how many times I will do this before I start feeling bad (I always tell the nice young lad at the other end that I am stopping the service because I am an alcoholic with liver disease to forestall their objection-handling retention pitch))

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 12:44 (four years ago) link

My hangover says ouch but this isn't a time to be avoiding indulgence. I'll worry about finding some balance when there's a world outside to balance, I guess. Tho I do need to do some thinking, my head's been addressing some very long-ingrained shit lately, and that's impossible with a hangover.

This works out a lot cheaper than my pub drinking, which isn't necessarily a good thing 😅

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:09 (four years ago) link

If I were allowed outside it would certainly be cheaper! I spent £35 on wine last night 😵

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link

Does drinking ever become mind-numbingly boring for you? I cut back significantly once I hit that stage.

coco vide (pomenitul), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link

Lads I wish for the best for both of ye, not least because seeing so much emoji usage from the pair of ye is very unnerving.

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link

yeah i still have the luxury of grabbing a bottle or two with my food shop, apparently i'm more at risk from drunky accidents than the rona at the moment

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link

xp the whole world is a family WhatsApp now, you have to just go with it 🤪

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:20 (four years ago) link

pom usually i'm a pub drinker so it rarely gets boring because it's usually my socializing time. it probably gets boring for other people once i pass a point :D

i'm only gonna drink indoors once every 5 or 6 days i hope, again i don't really get bored, it just makes me ramble more online

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:21 (four years ago) link

Does drinking ever become mind-numbingly boring for you? I cut back significantly once I hit that stage.


I am quite a boring person and my boredom threshold is high, or at least I would have said so a week or so ago

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:21 (four years ago) link

Fair enough – I never get bored of fraternizing with fellow lushes either.

🍻

coco vide (pomenitul), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:22 (four years ago) link

this isn't a time to be avoiding indulgence

indulging avoidance is v much the way to go rn imo

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:41 (four years ago) link

Well played

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link

For the first time in my adult life bar the odd January I am doing absolutely zero midweek drinking. Its partly a practicality thing - I hate physical shopping right now and booze is a precious commodity that shouldn't be frittered away. But mostly because I think the emotional drag of sustained boozing would be very bad right now.

We are it has to be said hitting pretty hard on Fridays and Saturdays. I think the picture might be significantly different if I were here on my own though.

Matt DC, Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link

Hopefully mine would be different if I wasn't XD

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link

I've gone from a position of not drinking at all midweek - driven by my job, where even the mildest hangover tends to lead to disaster - to drinking every night. It's not sustainable but I get habituated pretty quickly so need to watch it (while also thinking, fuck it, why not?).

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link

after last weekend, when I kind of cracked and got massively fucked up for 2 days, which wreaked havoc on me physically afterwards, my body clock was fucked, I'd had a cold the week before which was getting better but came back again worse, had earache, vertigo (I think this was probably from being too drunk to take my antidepressants - had vertigo before when I ran out for a few days), I told myself to stay sober for a bit because I'm someone who has let's say a tendency to binge drink at the best of times and this is only gonna get worse while I'm grieving and completely isolated

now my cold has gone again, the 3 day hangover is a memory and I feel OK, I think I'm going to struggle not to drink tonight tbh. I nearly did yesterday. I don't think I'll get trashed because my mood is a lot better than last week, but who knows. I haven't got that much booze left and no plans to get more so maybe just getting that drunk will remove the temptation a bit, and I can try and stay sober next weekend instead. I've been managing to get through the week OK

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link

I’m cutting back after the last couple days. Just too easy to fall into bad habits.

mh, Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link

I can’t imagine what you must be going through cp, thinking of you and hoping you cope as well as you can however you can

I’m out of the habit of daytime drinking and already smashed after just a few cans of “session” pale, and I’ve got Baltic Porter and all sorts to get through yet

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link

The hibiscus sour i hope will serve as aversion therapy, either on the way in or (more likely) out

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link

Hmmm, just reaching that "I could manage a drink to take the edges off" point of the day

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link

Actually playing the "Halcyon" video on a loop and what would be really great would be some kind of soft, pillowy narcotic about now.

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

I’ve been listening to the Spotify playlist “space disco” (ie lindstrøm Todd terje and all that stuff), might be the first time I’ve really craved an mdma Skype sesh

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

The Beeb have got an hour and three quarter rona show on now and I'm having a rum in protest tbh

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link

I've decided as long as Rona is running rampant I'm not drinking, so no doubt this will be the longest stretch of sobriety in my life. In fact, I haven't had a drink since the middle of the month anyway. If I'm not in a pub I don't drink anyway - only occasionally.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link

interesting (very) long read on recent chinese social conditions (inc.its post-socialist health structures) as these interact with internal and also global markets, and role of all this in recent and not-so-recent pandemics:
http://chuangcn.org/2020/02/social-contagion/

(this is a weird thread to out it on but at a minimum it's a good counterpoint to the conspiracy theories upthread, also weirdly: if you know a better thread for it, by all means post it there also)

― mark s, Friday, 27 March 2020 bookmarkflaglink

The outbreak thread is the best place (I put all pieces I am going through on there) as is Chiang (kept meaning to read this for the last month)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

Link the playlist please wins?

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link

^ cosine

a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX4pbGJDhTXK3?si=-2nED5eqSBeInAwnnF3Evg

It is literally Spotify’s own playlist, I’m sure there are better ones put together by users but I am lazy

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

Fuck me I want ice cream

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

I ordered pizza but resisted the urge to publicly harangue the person who brought it in order to show how #relatable I am

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link

Second weekend in isolation... feeding the ducks. pic.twitter.com/uxdoLTCLSv

— Radcliffe Observatory Ducks (@OxQuackademics) March 28, 2020

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link

I've been holding off my Aldi frozen pizza since Tuesday in favour of more perishable stuff but I think tonight's the night

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

on my stroll with the dog today i ended up walking down a steep hill behind a guy in his tartan pyjamas and a coat over the top, nothing on his feet but flip-flops, pissed out of his head and on his way back from the offy with a bag full off bottles that were clanking about round his knees. he was swerving all over the place and he kept catching the front of his flip-flops on the pavement, but just about saving himself each time as he stumbled forwards. And in my mind I was screaming, please don't fall, please don't fall, cos i know he was going to hurt himself and i would rush in to help him and that would be awkward as i'm sure that neither of us would want to end up with a dose of the old miley cyrus as a result of the encounter. And needless to say he ended up crashing straight into a row of overflowing wheelie bins like it the opening sequence of starsky and hutch and there was a crash of bottles but somehow he regained he feet and staggered onwards and i got out of there after asking if he was okay and just getting a roar of laughter by way of reply

ymo sumac (NickB), Saturday, 28 March 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link

beautiful

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 28 March 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link

One of the most annoying things about WFH is that when you connect you the VPN they disable Spotify, even the web version. But I'll listen to that at evening/weekends.

I don't much drink - I'm literally the "oh yes an average of a pint a week" guy that doctors never believe, but I've been hitting the late night video games pretty hard - I forgot that the clocks were going back, so suddenly it was 2, and what was I doing with my life? And this morning I remembered the clocks and suddenly everything's fine, nothing to investigate further.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 29 March 2020 10:40 (four years ago) link

I've been listening to a lot of doomy droney stuff because a writer I follow loves that sort of thing and throws up a bandcamp link every day and I find some of it good to work to. Bandcamp put up a feature on one of his favourite labels - it's definitely not for everyone, particularly In This Current Climate.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/label-profile/cryo-chamber-dark-ambient-guide

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 29 March 2020 10:46 (four years ago) link

love that NickB post (also glad you didn't get the Miley off a tumbledown drunk)

it was hard to get up this morning, with the change of clocks, and the feeling of "so what, I'll just be sitting in this room all day anyway, won't even get round to reading a book or doing anything useful/creative", and also I may have trudged to bed in slight disgrace after my trenchant opinions were deemed to be terrible and bringing everyone down *shrug*

thanks AF, the blurb sounds interesting, later I'll see if I like the music as much (I also have friends who are into "dark ambient", which is very adjacent to genres I like, and yet a lot of it leaves me cold - well, that might be what it's supposed to do, I guess, but I usually don't quite share their enthusiasm)

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 29 March 2020 10:51 (four years ago) link

^^ love that. Would you mind sharing who the writer is? Sounds right up my street.

I've been finding solace in classical, drone, ambient and black metal, too these days. But then that's where I found solace way before all this happened :)

xp to Andrew

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 29 March 2020 10:55 (four years ago) link

Its a comics book writer called Warren Ellis: https://warrenellis.ltd/ who has definitely been "I'd like to welcome everyone to my hermitage, no not literally"

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 29 March 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link

Thank you, and this is one for the 'shockingly old' thread: I've always though Warren Ellis the musician and Warren Ellis the comic book writer were one and the same o_O

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 29 March 2020 11:21 (four years ago) link

really wish i could go prop the bar in a quiet daytime pub right now

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 10:42 (four years ago) link

maybe i'll just walk round to the Harry Pursey and scratch on the door and whine

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link

Last night I dreamt that my old local was having secret free lock-ins to use up stock.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link

must be someone somewhere currently tunneling in to their local, great escape style

ymo sumac (NickB), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:44 (four years ago) link

uh fantastic mr fox style, pls

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:48 (four years ago) link

boggis, bunce and shebeen

ymo sumac (NickB), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link

now we're getting somewhere

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link

the Thursday before lockdown i was laughing with the woman who lives above one of my locals and we agreed there were worse places to be locked in

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link

this could all have been arranged so the socially neediest could be hunkered down together

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link

One pub I passed yesterday, instead of the usual cutesy “we love you, stay strong, see you on the other side” notice had one that just said “CLOSED
NO MONEY OR STOCK INSIDE”

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:12 (four years ago) link

understandable in the circs

i'll get my apology in early, i'm gonna be a drunky git today and there will be rambling bollocks.

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:14 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVlEtQQcX58&feature=share

i'm done with the non-essential tasks

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:17 (four years ago) link

today i am mostly listening to Iron Maiden, Bonnie Prince Billy and Country

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:44 (four years ago) link

oh and whichever wonderful ilxor made the wonderful 1950 compilation, that's in the mix

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 12:45 (four years ago) link

Just had the Pixies on, didn't enjoy that much tbh. Planxty now.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link

gone down a MOP alley but music thank god people thank god stay strong everybody

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link

everything today needs to bang

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link

Planxty, much more the ticket.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:04 (four years ago) link

nah def, they will fit right in to my original playlist, it's just expanding

also, MELT LINES, DON'T DO IT

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:06 (four years ago) link

also it is time for Accept

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:08 (four years ago) link

I could really do with sitting in a pub beer garden right now.

Have to make do with walking up the top of the road and back and trying to get a bit of work done. At least I don't have to work tomorrow. My hours have been cut to 4 days a week so I've gone for Wednesdays off so I never have to work more than 2 days in a row.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link

sounds like a relief. just been to the little Tesco for some more rum and basic food, there's a gentle pleasant calm outside round here tbh, people saying hiya at a distance then rolling their eyes just a little bit. comical how the seeds of a better world are scattered in this crappy one, sad to guess it'll pass when "normality" resumes.

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link

i finally sent my resignation email today, which is the task accomplished that's allowed me to self-justified boozing it up for the rest of the day.

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link

oh and i bought a lottery ticket, apparently the pubs are still open in Sweden

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

FB chat with my kids are so real right now thank you based virus

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link

also getting shithot at Freecell

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link

ow my head

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link

Whose bright idea was it to put that ghoul Whitty on the adverts? I've got chairs with more presence.

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:51 (four years ago) link

looks-wise he is memorably unlike the ppl you usually see in adverts -- viz he resembles the mekon's ghost -- so maybe that was the thinking. but then there's also voice-wise…

mark s, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:55 (four years ago) link

‘this is a public service announcement that baw-heided weirdos still have a place in british public life’

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:01 (four years ago) link

speaking of which, is toby young dead yet

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:02 (four years ago) link

Not for want of me nailing a voodoo doll.

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:04 (four years ago) link

tbh with this hangover I'm minded to hunt the cunt down and do it properly, don't think there's twelve people in the land who'd convict me

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:06 (four years ago) link

idk man animal rights

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:50 (four years ago) link

instead of cruises or the mekon's wooden ghost, ads in law and order today and shilling something called "pure cremation" :( :(

mark s, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link

Been seeing that one for a while. End up feeling bad about letting my children pay for my funeral.

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link

I mean not bad enough to do anything about it but hey.

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link

Just caught a bit of a livestream by Hull's own Black Elvis, and after he'd finished a blazing "Burning Love" he was thanking people in all the different countries watching him, he mentioned Norway and his partner chipped in with Sweden and he said "well that's part of Norway" ❤️❤️

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link

oh and whichever wonderful ilxor made the wonderful 1950 compilation, that's in the mix

― Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, March 31, 2020 8:45 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

:D

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link

Walking the dog on Saturday afternoon I interrupted three gents (late 50s?) sitting on logs in a corner of a field sheepishly drinking cans and chatting.

fetter, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link

Thanks Hadrian that compilation is class

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link

glad to hear it!

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link

Knew Saturday would be a bad day to go to Aldi but when you're out of food you're out of food.

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 April 2020 11:51 (four years ago) link

triple berry hot cross buns tho

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 April 2020 12:44 (four years ago) link

i don't really know where to put the observation that pretending Little and Large were ever funny is some of the most shocking revisionist history i've ever seen

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 April 2020 10:18 (four years ago) link

Feels like all the minor celebrities that died before the last 5 years really missed out; since 2015 every cunt gets the Diana treatment for a day at least

Microbes oft teem (wins), Monday, 6 April 2020 10:24 (four years ago) link

it's a strange one when being piss-poor is one of the only aspects of your notability

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 April 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link

soon as i dressed for a walk the sky went dark ffs

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link

what size is yr cap

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:03 (four years ago) link

i thought the sunshine would do me good tbh

by the time i've finished going thru the automatic phone system to order a repeat prescription there's a good chance it'll be summer tbf

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:06 (four years ago) link

xp lol sorry i think i've just got it

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link

heh

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:37 (four years ago) link

i don't know where to put this but

WHO FLEW WITH CRABS?! pic.twitter.com/c0cux6Jyyi

— Reese Waters (@reesewaters) April 16, 2020

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 April 2020 13:13 (four years ago) link

warning: do not watch if you hate crabs

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 April 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

not really blue just bored af

i am a horse girl (map), Saturday, 9 May 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Been a long time since I rock and rolled

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link

long long time

j., Thursday, 9 July 2020 05:41 (three years ago) link

Been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely lonely

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link

Time

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2020 06:16 (three years ago) link

*bad ass riff*

pomenitul, Thursday, 9 July 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link

say what you like about the tenets of mawkish sadness, at least it's an ethos

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 July 2020 06:28 (three years ago) link

That is a booming dn though.

scampos mentis (gyac), Friday, 10 July 2020 07:05 (three years ago) link

For real

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 10 July 2020 08:29 (three years ago) link

gonna sit here for a bit

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 July 2020 05:41 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Astyages had a daughter, whom he called Mandane: concerning whom he had a dream, that enough water flowed from her to fill his city and overflow all Asia. He imparted this vision to those of the Magi who interpreted dreams, and when he heard what they told him he was terrified: and presently, Mandane being now of marriageable age, he feared the vision too much to give her to any Median worthy to mate with his family, but wedded her to a Persian called Cambyses, a man whom he knew to be well born and of a quiet temper: for Astyages held Cambyses to be much lower than a Mede of middle estate.

But in the first year of Mandane's marriage to Cambyses Astyages saw a second vision. He dreamt that there grew from his daughter a vine, which covered the whole of Asia. Having seen this vision, and imparted it to the interpreters of dreams, he sent to the Persians for his daughter, then near her time, and when she came kept her guarded, desiring to kill whatever child she might bear: for the interpreters declared that the meaning of this dream was that his daughter's offspring should rule in his place.

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 August 2020 09:57 (three years ago) link

Jesus Haribo Christ it's warm

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

It’s so bad

fă-ți cercetările (gyac), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

I like the warm but ffs, got a fan on my bed tho lol

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

If i could strip skin i would be doing so

fă-ți cercetările (gyac), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

*off my own

fă-ți cercetările (gyac), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

Good Cher single

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

Such a deep luxurious blue today, my thick quilty armor stitched from equal parts loneliness and freedom, such a gorgeous sadness I just wanna roll in it. Wish the sun would join me but as long as the rain doesn't fall I am going out to revel in being alone amongst friends and strangers. The syrup of melancholy, the maraschino of the blues.

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 August 2020 08:24 (three years ago) link

The syrup of melancholy, the maraschino of the blues

I keep hearing this in the gravelly Leonard Cohen voice but really it is quite the line.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 August 2020 08:28 (three years ago) link

no poetry like sentimentalizing fuckery :D

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 August 2020 08:35 (three years ago) link

Later, when I'm hungover and my mouth tastes like a burnt out cigar, this is to remind me that today has been really good and coloured with love and friendship

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 August 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

*hat tip*

pomenitul, Friday, 14 August 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

They’re selling Christmas cards at the scope shop

Scampo No. 5 (wins), Sunday, 30 August 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

That was a purely unintentional desolation row homage lol

Scampo No. 5 (wins), Sunday, 30 August 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

how can it ever be Christmas when 2020 has lasted a hundred years?

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 August 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

Of ffs soz

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 September 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

l'imaginaire is my worst frenemy

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 September 2020 09:47 (three years ago) link

feel so at odds with the universe

(that's all, just putting it here to stop this feeling going round my head on loop and maybe I can get on with having other thoughts instead. sorry to interrupt your day)

scampus unrest (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 18 September 2020 11:21 (three years ago) link

I feel that. Have felt depressed this week, which I blame on going out for dinner last week and it hitting me like a tonne how much i miss people. I have been someone who is a loner since I was old enough to walk, this is really strange for me.

scampo italiano (gyac), Friday, 18 September 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link

maybe a breakthru i had in counselling this year was realising i'm always gonna be at least a bit at odds with this society and that's ok, it's a bad society, i don't wanna belong to it

the rona has brought in whole new layers of boring dystopia, even the escape routes that used to be normally available have been closed or curtailed. the words "new normal" are on my death list like "these times" but if this is going to be our world for the foreseeable then i'm trying not to think too hard about it, the extra sheets of glassy isolation between us, the pseudo-curfews, the closing down of what world there is

there were some good things and some pleasures to be found in the lockdown, but now all we've got is shitty England consumerworld, now with fewer bonus features. sooner i can afford to drink more the better.

ach, the feelings come and go

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 September 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

and fuck me i really miss karaoke

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 September 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link

Lads I'm finding it really hard to get out of bed lately

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 September 2020 10:44 (three years ago) link

I’m sorry, tell us about it at least. It’s the length of this thing isn’t it?

scampo italiano (gyac), Sunday, 20 September 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

It's a bunch of stuff, just being bothered to push back against gentle despair, too much regret for things I've done, too lazy and anxious to get back into work. I keep worrying I'm going to hit depression again and I don't think I'm there yet but I'm emulating the outer forms. I think (badly) managing no money is kind of exhausting too, makes me wanna stay in and do nothing.

I still feel at a point where I could just jump up and start to do something about it but then every morning - lol this is morning - the weight of apathy settles down

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 September 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link

Me being overly dramatic in yr thread NV and part of it definitely the lack of sleep I had last night but fuck it all today, right? Really feels great being in a better position to the majority of my family and friends and still feeling that there’s no future worth having for most people my age and younger, only endless grubbing for coins and fluffing of fascists, and the people who should stand for you are embarrassed by you but still demand your support. Lol @ me thinking I would stop being hurt by politics after the exit poll and it still having the power to do so almost a year on.

Sorry, as you were.

ciorapomenitul (gyac), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link

It's fine

You know, of course, that I feel you

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 11:21 (three years ago) link

You’re a fave for a reason mate ❤️

ciorapomenitul (gyac), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link

Not sure being a key figurehead for despair is a good thing but lol me

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 11:50 (three years ago) link

suddenly in a very purple place right now

one big reason i can recognise - a job application ffs, who gets this fried over a fucking job application? probably lots of people tbrr

other stuff is i don't know, feel like i'm waking up to myself a bit, not unpleasant but gee there's a lot of mess and the effort of picking up the semi-metaphorical mop and bucket - sometimes the darkness of the thought of how to avoid all forms of work feels like a huge overreaction and yet there's the thought

lie down and die or start climbing even if your odds of even making foothills feels nooo way

anyway i'm ok. just a note to say i'm ok but i might be blissfully mostly shut up for a bit

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 October 2020 11:03 (three years ago) link

I mean, job applications are shit aren’t they? So your answer is pretty otm for me too.

Purple is better than blue right? So yeah don’t apologise for using your thread for its intended purpose!

seumas milm (gyac), Sunday, 4 October 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

not saturday but i woke v blue today -- maybe just autumn and feeling old

mark s, Monday, 5 October 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link

autumn tends to get to me yeah

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 October 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link

when the universe aligns to draw your attention to something

plug from his good jacket hanging on a nail and the desired object was
passed from hand to hand.

—Thank you, the sailor said.

He deposited the quid in his gob and, chewing and with some slow

— Ulysses Reader (@UlyssesReader) October 6, 2020

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 12:26 (three years ago) link

my sister when v small referred to slugs as plugs (she wasn't a fan) and within the family the name has stuck

mark s, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link

Not a fan of slugs either, they're pretty hard to warm to

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

Idly reading this and thinking of when I had to break up with my own therapist (and break up is very true terminology, it’s a breach of trust that makes it difficult to continue). In my case, the reason why was pretty painful and I haven’t even looked for a new one since because I’m still not really over it. It’s a shame because I really did benefit from going.

Sorry. Morning!

seumas milm (gyac), Friday, 9 October 2020 08:29 (three years ago) link

Extremely twilight Sunday evening melancholy but also cosy confused vibes, love to throw a bit of seasonal affect on the pile

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 October 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

tbh i always feel a bit of a fraud posting -- as opposed to replying -- in this thread: i'm materially and emotionally cushioned compared to many friends on the borads, my life is p uncomplicated, my health is not so bad for my age, i've lived alone for nearly 30 years and got used to it (and tbh entirely enjoy it: lockdown is not the burden for me that others justifiably find it), my last romantic adventures and misadventures were more than a decade ago and did my various friendships no lasting harm (or any harm tbh, quite the opposite), and even if i'm eating into my savings week by week i can pay my bills for a while yet, plus i like the work i do (what little of it there currently is) and i have plenty of time to write, with ilxor and internet the main distractions and ruination there lol

so whoop-de-doo me why am i here a-fussin and a-blubberin eh, leave it to ppl with genuine woes

ok then: this week i've been working at a review that links my two main intellectual projects since i left the wire fulltime a quarer-century ago: i have friendly editorial sanction to go ham and i want to, and if i get it right this is kind of a good strong first next-step piece in my [GRAND VOICE/BORAT VOICE] life's work (probably this phrase -- "if i get it right" -- is worth dwelling on of course)

but most of the week i've been just dawdling and doodling and breaking away towards nonsense bcz the sense of "what's the fucking point" has been so vastly overwhelming (and this too is easily explained away = a deadline coinciding with the very bad, very disspiriting politics of the week so far and -- i hope not! -- the week to come. just tinkering with little bits and feeling im getting nowhere (laptop cutting in by being weird again post-repair for the first time in months, not NOW laptop ffs) or more precisely that the somewhere i have very much had in mind to get, just gets more meaningless by the hour

like i say, i feel a fraud: like my job (which i'm god at, or used to be) is more is to be on the other end of this conversation talking friends out of this nonsense

mark s, Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

"i'm god at" thx freud

mark s, Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

based

I believe in you mark s!

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

if ilx has taught me anything* it's that all woes are real, and blueness is a shifty concept that never fully matches up to a set of tangible causes. also maybe nonsense is some kind of fertile mulch idk it comes and it goes, hope yours goes soon

*it has not**

**ok it really really has but there's nothing funny about sincerity

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

listening to youtubes of the Heart Sutra with a grand miserable empty feeling of empty lostness, nowhere to go, nothing to do, absolutely out of touch

might get dressed and take this outside, can't shake it lately, actual problems should be gently receding but as they do the aloneness swooshes up the beach to fill their place

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link

something something attachment something something the web of following on Twitter

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:16 (three years ago) link

I was thinking of you yesterday! Sorry to hear you’re feeling down, but I hope the 🤞🏻 we have been talking about helps somewhat?

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:17 (three years ago) link

it will help? this emptiness is happening in the waiting, i guess. but also when you're in limbo that's when the real things - which are lol irreal - have the time to come out and play maybe

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:23 (three years ago) link

and of course lockdown brings down the psychic shutters a bit, again.

but this is the real emptiness, this is what's always here even when you're not looking

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:24 (three years ago) link

Is it rude to ask you to put your clever brain to work to think of a new dn for me in the hopes of distracting you from the abyss

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link

lol let's see if a walk kickstarts some kind of brain function

i came up with one the other week and didn't want to change this one because i was still running it in and now i've forgotten what the other one was

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:40 (three years ago) link

It’s really unfair because yours are by far the best

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

oh stop

throw enough scamp at the wall

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:42 (three years ago) link

Probably because I’ve been thinking about both Rome (2005) and Hadrian I’m like trying to think of a Latin type one

Like, x, y, scampus

liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:44 (three years ago) link

have we had scampus fugit?

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link

We have not!

scampus fugit (gyac), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

Imo the struggle of, and with, sunyata is real... Being awfully far from enlightenment (=acceptance somewhat of the void, or: accepting the void, but... then what remains? where does that leave me, if not dead?) myself lol, I always took the conclusion of the sutra ("Gate, Gate, Paragate, Para Sam gate Bodhisvaha", something like "Gone, gone, gone to the other shore, awakening, svava") as a transcendental journey of the spirit, or the all, that crossed over from outside our emptiness, from out of all emptiness, to what comes after emptiness (enlightening). But it's very hard to even see the other shore, let alone... etc.

That's on me because I'm a terrible Buddhist lol, but if what you mean is the strong desire to even catch a glimpse of the other shore, of leaving emptiness (and any desire, for that matter) behind to the state of just (non-)being, then boy I hear you.

<3

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 November 2020 11:57 (three years ago) link

It turns out that long dark nights, lockdowns, deadly pandemics, shitty politics, minimal interaction outside your immediate family, and an ever-growing list of serious/chronic physical health issues is not good for one's mental resilience.

Feeling blue.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

<3 sorry to hear that bud. everything on top of everything else is a lot right now

don't know if a long walk upped my serotonin but at least i'm knackered and sweaty and can lie back on the settee with a clear conscience

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

Long walks always help - though my walk on Saturday was cut short by a herd of HUGE cows that were big enough to provoke a Dark Souls style 180.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

cowvid ruins 2020 yet again

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

bovid-180 shurely

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

something something imMOOOOOn

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

*theme music from Cbeebies Blue Cow in a loop*

calzino, Monday, 9 November 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

udderly awful punning, thank you

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

time to stop milking it now

kinder, Monday, 9 November 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

^^^ quota maven- "nevermore"

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Monday, 9 November 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

There is this tedious gobshite composer blokey bloke cunt on Pointless. He loves The Beatles.

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 November 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

That Burnistoun sketch where Rab Florence goes "sorry mate, just remembered about death for a minute there."

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Saturday, 21 November 2020 08:24 (three years ago) link

That’s how I felt when I woke up about an hour ago and realised I had to tear myself out of bed to work. Oh it’s fine really tbh, I’m off all next week.

scampus fugit (gyac), Saturday, 21 November 2020 08:42 (three years ago) link

Hope you can use the time off well. I've been off this week and enjoyed not reading work emails but don't feel incredibly refreshed. I think annual leave needs more of a plan, at the moment, compared to normally.

djh, Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link

i think the fuckery of plan vs not plan is part of my confusion from day one

and of course i want to cuddle all of y'all like i want to cuddle myself?

djh like everybody else posting you feel like you love geo/graphy/ology?

which i get it

i dunno sorry i'nm ramblihng

hope you use the time off well

the things are out there

cuddles

<3

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link

There's a party
And everyone's there
And everyone will leave
At exactly the same time

and when this kiss is over
it'll start again
and not be any different
and be exactly the same

it's hard to imagine
THAT I LIVE IN A COUNTRY FULL OF REACTIONARY MURDEROUS CUNTS
BUT THERE IT IS
FUCK YOU CENTRIST CUNTS
YOU HATE LIFE
YOU WANT TO CUDDDLE THE STATUS QUO
BECAUSE YOU LOVE YOUR SHIT MIDDLE CLAAS PRIVILEGE
CUNTS

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:27 (three years ago) link

Hope you can use the time off well. I've been off this week and enjoyed not reading work emails but don't feel incredibly refreshed. I think annual leave needs more of a plan, at the moment, compared to normally.


Yes, but I realised recently I hadn’t been off work for more than three days at a time, so hope this helps. Was supposed to be going home to Ireland, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

NV, I hope you’re not feeling too rough today?

scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 22 November 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

Lol at least I've found out what I was doing last night

Looootta repressed anger, apparently

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

I do remember listening to "Heaven" on a loop for a long time

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

Some cuddling, too, but it comes with the territory. Hope you're feeling ok, NV.

xp

pomenitul, Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

Nice to see you admit it, pom!

scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

Hangover is surprisingly low key at the moment, thanks pom

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

I mean I haven't actually got out of bed yet so

Oh ffs Villa. Brighton? Ffs

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

can't remember which Sabbath song it is where Ozzy wails "Oh no no no" in despair but that's my life now

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

I assume you're thinking of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lVdMbUx1_k

pomenitul, Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

that's the one :D

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

the sun's shining, it looks lovely outside, i don't know why i'm sleeping later and later, i don't know why i feel so bottomlessly sad

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 12:20 (three years ago) link

this is a day when the absence of the pub is really hurting

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

❤️ come chat shit with us later

scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

lol i thought i already was

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

i apologise in advance for the mess tho

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

Is there a thread where you're not depressed you're just totally fucked but it doesn't matter because you've got nothing to say anyway? Is this it? Hi. I have nothing to say.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link

this is v much it

hi omino

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

this is where we badly document a tawdry world with the icing picked off

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link

hi NV

tonight I am going out to break the law and sit miles away from a couple of friends in a freezing garden because everyone feels sorry for me

I will drink and do the brave face

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

i'm sorry shit is so messy i truly am

friends and drink and that, at least they're worth it

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

they are and these are my oldest friends actual guys who would do anything for me so

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

not that they can but they would

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

not even trying to be a downer tbh

just amazedly celebrating how pretty the scree can be

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

I finished work early today and watched Patriot Games because I couldn't be arsed changing the channel. Absolute garbage.

Got me thinking though how many films there are where, no matter how big or wide or ambitious the theme or plot is, it often comes down to two guys knocking lumps out of each other at the end.

Like spy films are all really just Rocky 3.

This is probably more of a rejected thread idea than whatever it started being.

Clear and Present Danger is on next, in which Jack Ryan brings down a Colombian drug cartel with a right cross to Ivan Drago's temple.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

nah when i'm being mean about superhero movies i reduce it to lads in costumes punching each other

a lot of mean is bullshit but also true but also bullshit

mood is a total thing for movies or music or any art really

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

I’m watching Reality Bites, which I’ve never seen before. Strange to feel too old watching something I was too young for in the first place. Also, Rock & Roll pt 2 plays for an uncomfortably long time at the start!

scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

one of the most magnificent, sublime, monumental, extraordinary scenes in cinema history

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

My Sharona!

scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

have never watched or really wanted to watch it even tho the principle cast are all beautiful obv

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

oh guys the twilight's coming and i can see the near-full moon out of my back window thru the blinds and it's very wabi-sabi, espesh given a Country soundtrack

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

I still proper fancy Winona

calzino, Friday, 27 November 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

She’s gorgeous in this and I have always thought this (what an uncommon view I know!) “I ride my own melt” made me giggle

scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 27 November 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

Janeane tho

forever

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

sorry 4 heteronormativity

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

When she popped up in some so so HBO series a few years back I was thinking wowswers .. she's still got it and more! apologies!

calzino, Friday, 27 November 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

Janeane tho

forever


The women are far far better than the men in this, have never liked Ethan Hawke much tbh apart from in Before Sunrise, etc.

scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 27 November 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

Got me thinking though how many films there are where, no matter how big or wide or ambitious the theme or plot is, it often comes down to two guys knocking lumps out of each other at the end.

JJ Abrams is fucking rotten for this - Spock and Khan in the second Star Wars, and also Mission Impossible III - which fair enough you'd expect some of it, but it's between Tom Cruise and Philip Seymour Hoffman!

I keep meaning to rewatch A Scanner Darkly, relevant for presence of Winona and surprising absence of Ethan Hawke (and unsurprising absence of knock-down drag-out fight at the end).

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 November 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

Spock and Khan in the second Star Wars

Ahem

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 November 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

everybody knows the first rule of big screenwriting is the world hangs on how hard two cis white dudes can punch each other

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

End of John Wick 1 also particularly pointless example

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 27 November 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

Rocky IV is the Cold War one, III is mr t and the hulkster

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Friday, 27 November 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

I know - I used Rocky 3 then added Drago for the next Ryan film.

I get it was strained to begin with. Should have gone with Apollo and built up from there.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

Yeah don’t start with lang. I had the Rocky game for the master system so I know what I’m talking about

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Friday, 27 November 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

Working on my first
Happy Friday everyone

calstars, Friday, 27 November 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

happy Friday cals

enjoy that first and its brethren

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 November 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

No doubt bro

calstars, Friday, 27 November 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

I am too many beers deep. Working hard to maintain the distance even though I want to hold my friends close.

I love the language of old friends. How we all interrupt and laugh before we get near the end of a story we all know.

Good to feel normal. Tomorrow will hurt but today is good.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link

Keep it together, stay afloat

calstars, Saturday, 28 November 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

^^^

mookieproof, Saturday, 28 November 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link

Cullercoats and Whitley Bay.

Alternative Ulsterbus, Saturday, 28 November 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

This thread is good.

scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

it is

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

I've had a really shit day that was an endurance test to say the least and came quite close to committing abh on my garbage neighbour who was shouting violent threats through the wall at my partner, who has bruises on her arm after my son attacked her whilst having a noisy meltdown while I was out for 10 minutes. That kind of shit day. But I do actually quite enjoy life, even the kind of reduced one I currently live and don't really suffer from clinical depression tbh and in some ways I live quite a charmed existence compared to some. But I did shout some violent threats back at the cunt that I will break his legs with my lump hammer if he ever pisses me off again, which is not behaviour that is conducive to a general feeling of happiness tbqh! Just an approximate fuck all of humanity blues is what I'm feeling today. But I do feel much better now.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

i'm glad you got it out of your system

here's a long stupid blogpost about whether "Kieth" is a slur

https://www.thesocialreview.co.uk/2020/12/01/call-me-by-your-name-keith/

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link

omg that really is becoming a thing

calzino, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

it's a playground smash

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

Hope you and the family stay safe from neighbourly threats calz

That stuff would really worry me as I've never really grown out of ESCALATION in those situations

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

I know it's very hard to be calm and reasoned sometimes, even when you know you should rise above the situation and you are clever enough to know nothing good will come from acting acting as bad as the dickheads you are dealing with.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

Counting wasted time this morning. Like I shouldn't regret a minute of GTA in my whole life because I love it but it's a lot of fucking minutes and I think I spent a fair few of them looking for pigeons.

I'm going to count all that I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here time as quality time binding with the children.

Watching Gordon Ramsay bullying bad chefs into worse chefs I need to write off.

So many shite books.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Saturday, 5 December 2020 09:43 (three years ago) link

what else is time for but wasting?

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

Oh I know just kinda wish I was a bit more selective sometimes

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

You and me both pal

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

I'm sweating the small stuff again.
Why do I do that?

I have actually fucking big stuff here I should be paying attention to.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Monday, 7 December 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

Fight problems with bigger problems

calstars, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link

Sometimes boredom is just a nice soothing balm. Today was a good nothing day of not much before my nerves start ramping up before my surgery on Thursday.

I got to wave to my wife who was standing next to some bins against a distant hospital wall. This is how we cope and connect in 2020.

I am listening to Low. Secret Name. Nice old Low before the ambition outweighed the melody.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link

My only experience of anything approaching your current situation was getting my broken ankle screwed back together and I was very scared in the build up to that little minor procedure and when I came around Saddam Hussein was getting executed on one channel and on another was a very lame Four Feathers remake with that twat from the BT advert and Heath Ledger. Sorry I know none of this is helpful, but I'm rooting for you pal.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link

lol calz. i had a massive lung tumour (“about the size of a small football” was what my south african do doctor amusingly said), which for a couple of weeks they thought was *possibly* malignant and therefore i might die. then an MRI scan showed it to be a benign nerve tumour inside my rib cage. still needed to be removed. had eight hour surgery, and woke up in ICU next to a v old dude, similarly full of tubes and wires. it was the 2008 olympics and as they started helping us to get up and walk me and old fella re-enacted the 100m sprint across the icu floor. it wasn’t 100m and it took about ten minutes and we both had to rest for about ten hours after.

still that two weeks was *weird* to say the least.

i’ve been thinking about you, and wishing you the best onimo. best of luck.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 08:12 (three years ago) link

I am blessed with a very visual memory. I can usually instantly "see" the face of anyone I know.
I can also dip in an out of photographic memories and times on demand like a slide sorter.
I can even do all this to music in my head like a crappy online movie maker.

I've never thought of this as something of note or something that should have a name but tonight it is known as "Gerry's life repeatedly flashing before his eyes!"

Some great photos though...

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Thursday, 10 December 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link

onimo, i have been thinking of you very much and i wish you the absolute best for your surgery. you’ve been a hugely likeable and valuable presence on ilx for many years and even though i don’t know you in person i have a great affection for you

estela, Thursday, 10 December 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

otm

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link

thank you estala

I think my ilx life has been fairly vanilla in lots of ways as my work has kind of steered me away from being overly controversial politically. I'm often surprised people even notice me.

I try not be nasty and I really value the people here. It's a nice little corner of the internet to hide in.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Thursday, 10 December 2020 03:15 (three years ago) link

I try not be nasty and I really value the people here

Words to ILX by. I salute you, onimo.

pomenitul, Thursday, 10 December 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

Echoing all thew above; rooting hard for you man, stay strong.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 10 December 2020 09:03 (three years ago) link

Onimo you are a gem (and one of only two people on here my husband has had a go at me for being mean to)! I wished you luck in the cancer thread but just generally wanted to say here, it’s a really nice little corner of the internet despite my occasional misgivings and you are a very welcome and lovely presence around the place.

scampostiltskin (gyac), Thursday, 10 December 2020 09:37 (three years ago) link

Wishing you all the very best for your surgery today, onimo! Hope all goes well and best wishes for a swift recovery.

("onimo you are a gem" and "it's a nice little corner of the internet to hide in" both very otm)

scampus unrest (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 10 December 2020 09:50 (three years ago) link

Wishing you all the very best for your surgery today, onimo! Hope all goes well and best wishes for a swift recovery.

("onimo you are a gem" and "it's a nice little corner of the internet to hide in" both very otm)


^^^

Fizzles, Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

Warm wishes onimo, bathe in the healing powers of ilx

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:24 (three years ago) link

to not wallow in self pity

or to not show it

one of those would be the trick

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 06:26 (three years ago) link

i feel like there's a time for wallowing and it has a place. tho i live on my own which makes that much easier. still, your loved ones will understand that sometimes you've got to go where the tide of feelings takes you, i'm sure. it's just time, imo, can't squish all those feelings away, especially since they're entirely reasonable right now. but time. the tide will change. til then small distractions either liquid or whatever distracts, as necessary.

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 10:04 (three years ago) link

I think I need to squish things at least until we tuck Christmas away.

Weird sleep and mood patterns going on, a 3 hour since my last post has me genuinely feeling much better.

I am watching a BBC nature thing and pondering whether a narwhal has ever accidentally stabbed one of his/her mates.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link

3 hour *sleep*

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

you know that narwhal tusk is an overgrown tooth right? has always made me wince a bit since i found that at

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

sleep fuckery makes me super-volatile anyway

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

you know that narwhal tusk is an overgrown tooth right?

Now I do!

It's easy to think of groups of animals all sharing goals, skills, characteristics, etc. but it's good to remember that the variances within that means that just like humans there will be useless clumsy fuckers turning the wrong way and impaling their neighbours.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link

i'm so fucking grateful for my ex

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 December 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

That's good. Hope Christmas wasn't too blue.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Sunday, 27 December 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link

and suddely low again, after several days focused sense of cheerfully moving forward and getting things done:

— some of it is likely just flu-feeling caffeine hangover: i returned to coffee to finish a piece and i've quit again, this is day one of none ugh
— some of it lack of proper sleep for whatever reason
— didn't help waking to find my heart all palpitaty at 4 in the morning (which may mean nothing at all and may mean the return of my atrial flutter)
— some of is the post-partum slump of finishing a piece i liked at moment of completion and now think is bad and terrible lol writers what even are we
— and some is this: i was given the all-clear to reduce my beta-blockers 3 weeks ago & reached the advised minimum and yesterday was full of beans, energy all back mentally and physically
— so i'm bothered if reducing them allowed my flutter back bcz ffs (wait and see, wait and see)

mark s, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:56 (three years ago) link

Wait and see is good advice, but it’s the hardest thing when you’re so fucking anxious already. I have had scattered sleep and sporadic tightness in part of my chest which I’m fairly certain are related to anxiety atm, and I know in a week or so I’ll likely feel better, but it doesn’t help much to tell myself that this will pass. So sorry to hear you’re feeling low, am sure your piece will be great and looking forward to it getting posted on the Guardian thread 🤭

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

this bit of the year is full of emotional slumps and humps ime

love to all, wait and see, the real face of yr life is that cold soggy third week of Jan

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link

Having a blue Saturday, recalled this thread, great. The tl;dr version is that am currently helpless to help sister at possibly the worst time in her life, so feeling angry and sad and useless, that I am going through years of bad behaviour towards loved ones and feeling guilty and angry at myself towards that, because I can’t see them and it physically hurts (at least this is the only source I can determine for the fact I have started clenching my jaw again, and generally yr usually pandemic weltschmerz of missing everyone and normal life, blah blah blah. Happy new year.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

:(

Feel free to vent, if it helps.

Fwiw staying physically put is all we can do at the moment anyway, so there's no sense in beating yourself up over it, it's beyond our control.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link

started typing shit. no smart answers. yr sis is doing great things gyac and i'd guess she knows that, no clapping, no bullshit.

really tired of this lockdown and angry about how it could'v been done so much less badly.

but i've never appreciated our ilxor chums more, you too pom, blood sausage, people out here in the world thsnk fuck.

it could be worse, we could be locked into a capitalist death cult.

fuck's sake we'll get thru and what will survive of us is lurve.

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

also is slack knackered?

blue is the stoopidest colour

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

Amen to that, NV. If it's any comfort, my anger over how poorly the pandemic has been managed here in Quebec also grows by the hour, even though our government has yet to reach BoJo levels of yo-yo incompetence and lethal cynicism. If you discount the rest of Canada, which has done a much better job so far, our provincial figures are only slightly behind France's.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link

sad lol @ “you too pom” i love pom and you all too

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:44 (three years ago) link

important message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

lol gyac, yours is a twisted mind.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

<3

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

i am not in such a bad way that i didn’t instinctively think “fuck off”, pom, especially as that was genuinely meant! an ilx fave for sure

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link

Sorry, truly not meaning to be insulting, I’m not feeling very agape.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link

No worries, like you said, it's a sign that you're holding up.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:58 (three years ago) link

nobody expected the scampish inquiaition

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

oh ffs

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

just fp me

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

i mean fp "candyman" first but then fp me

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link

For some reason (lol apart from all of the obvious reasons) getting through the year end barrier and then realising Jesus, this has been going on for 10 months has hit me harder than I think the year anniversary will.

Much love to you and your excellent sister gyac - I mean I don't know her but she shines in every word you've said about her.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 January 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link

Calm down Andrew, surely life in Edinburgh isn’t that bad.

Thank you ❤️

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

Love to you gyac ❤️ In fact, I love all of you. You too Pom ;)

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 9 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

You too, LBI. :)

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

Fuck, it’s bad though isn’t it

Dunno whether to vent in here or mostly apolitical or ukpol or usLOL or the_slack or just shut my debbie downer mouth but anyway thinking of y’all you lot and hope you are finding ways to cope (I am doing a self care by not caring for myself at all) & stave off the blues. Much love, and that goes for all of you, plus pom

Yelp for gyros (wins), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link

I mentioned to a beloved ilxor earlier (plus pom) the idea some brane genius hat of Cambridge fap and i think that’s still a great idea whenever. Maybe I could bring you a new Christmas card?!

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link

FAPs anywhere and everywhere when it's possible IMO

love to anyone struggling or not struggling atm. it's fucking shit and never ends. I'm off the booze at the moment so can't even drown my sorrows. tbh if I didn't have weed I don't think I could manage it.

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link

Much love to you Colonel, we will meet at some stage and in the meantime please cuddle lovely Dottie and her happy tail ❤️ Just awful shit the whole time.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

Monocle dropping out at it taking 4 hours to get from Edinburgh to Peterborough, and a further hour to get from there to Cambridge?

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

Just stay overnight, fool, almost everyone will be travelling from somewhere anyway. It will surely be worth it to meet some of us irl you haven’t met before? You too, pom.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

Yeah definitely up for FAPs wherever once we come out the other side. I have been to hastings once but didn't get a chance to sample the pubs. gyac I have still not ruled out the first card arriving!

Yelp for gyros (wins), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

I should be back in the UK some time in May – I don't know exactly for how long but, worst comes to worst, I'll be back again after that. Either way, a Cambridge FAP is a lovely prospect and I do want to meet you all in meatspace (plus gyac).

Hang in there, Colonel. It's not quite in the spirit of a Blue Saturday, but I'm doing dry January at the moment and so far it has been a (mild) boon to my morale.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

No no I'll definitely be at the FAP, just a bit o_O that 'the direct route' isn't significantly quicker than going in to King's Cross and out again.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

I never do dry january or new year's resolutions so last year I made a point of going to the pub on Jan 1 but after that I didn't drink for the first quarter of the year - until lockdown basically

Yelp for gyros (wins), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

(plus gyac).

laughed out loud and startled my cat (who was on my back), thanks for that

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

fwiw I am not doing Dry January. I just drank way too much over xmas/new year and felt like I was going to have kidney failure. they only stopped hurting yesterday after being sober for a week. it may end up being Dry January anyway although I drank all day on the 1st so have already broken it tbf

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 9 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

Oh I also drank on the 1st but fuck that, let's not make it more onerous for ourselves than it already is.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

I am pro drinking on the 1st, i) it is a good day to drink ii) it makes not drinking in the rest of jan/the year less of A Thing

I have had the throbbing kidney feeling too many times, sometimes I tell myself it's just backache but yeah giving it a rest a good idea

Yelp for gyros (wins), Saturday, 9 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

Look I worded it weird earlier cos pom is a slack denier also I was talking to gyac

You bunch of cunts

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

I am deliriously happy this week and I feel almost guilty about that but you know I love you all

Cunts

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

*and pom too

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

xp right back at ya, big man

mh, Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link

gyac I hate you so much right now

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

_ _ u t_ _ p_m

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

ffs zing

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

I am not looking forward to having to leave the house today, but once again we are missing or almost out of lots of groceries (plus missing everyone I didn’t see on the sssooomm)

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

I had enough food today, I need to go tomorrow and I need to do laundry and other delayed chores

You too, pom

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

Up for Cambridge FAP too. Good thought in dark times.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Lawks a lawd a lads
Save me from the comedown
The universe is infinitely blue
Bluetiful

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

Drink water before bed, lad

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link

^^^

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link

Well yeah sure but

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link

I’ll post Keir to the thread unless you get up and get some right now

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link

Look I've drunk loads of fluid today and it's not helping

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link

Bluetered

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link

The wust of it is I'm not as pished as I ought

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:22 (three years ago) link

Wustfil drinking

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link

OK when I'm listening to "Sex Weed" on a loop that's bed time

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link

Playing SAW I in bed as a John Harris tribute

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link

that thing inside you
it were outside you
malavarice eats us up

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 February 2021 06:50 (three years ago) link

the urge to sneak into saturnonymity

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 February 2021 07:06 (three years ago) link

and that's what makes my life so fucking fantastic

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 February 2021 07:12 (three years ago) link

Don't have time to be fanciful, just noting how sweet the sadness is of gazing into the shifting shades of blue at a slight remove

Which is just a way of being pointlessly always a bit sad I guess, always missing some little object, eh?

Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 09:03 (three years ago) link

The difference between melancholy and gloom? Perhaps I’ve misinterpreted that first one.

scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:00 (three years ago) link

It is, also it's a soft melancholy, like when you're tapped into the universal blue.

Lots of defrosted feelings at my end, tho I believe in the collective blue of the universe

Just needed to whitter and jot it down here, lol havent felt the urge for ages for some reason.

Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:21 (three years ago) link

twhitter nest pas

scampsite (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:25 (three years ago) link

Well now.

scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:27 (three years ago) link

I never really know how to define melancholy. Instinctively i think of it as sort of sadness tinting everything, diluted but pervasive? Sadness itself is almost a pain (at least for someone who feels all their negative emotions physically it is too), stronger and harder to ignore.

scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:34 (three years ago) link

Melancholy = there is a fundamental sadness underpinning existence and it's beautiful so that's ok

(nb there is also a fundamental joy underpinning existence probably but joy feels much more atomised/personal)

I can bask in melancholy but joy is more unsettling idk

Mommas, don't let your scampoes grow up to be bacon fries (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:48 (three years ago) link

melancholy is the pretty rainbow colours shifting across the surface of the dark petrol gloop of sadness

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:38 (three years ago) link

That’s a great way of putting it

scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:52 (three years ago) link

A little bubble of black nihilism stuck in my lungs today for no obvious reason.

It's good to observe this stuff calmly until I can cough it up

The Scampo Fell to Earth (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 10:03 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

There's a feeling I get sometimes when the sun's coming out, it's very nebulous and complicated and of course blue, it has wistfulness and hope and nostalgia for hope and possibility in it, unfocused memory maybe, awareness of the seasons changing in time, I get it in the Persona games sometimes too, it's like being 18 somehow or wishing I was

Lockdown spoils it tho

A bot scamping on a human face, forever (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 March 2021 12:34 (three years ago) link

I'm living in a sleepy fog of netflix and biscuits.
Sometimes the biscuits are good.

Suggest Banazir (onimo), Friday, 19 March 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

there isn't much good to say about netflix, apart from that it has all 7 seasons of Voyager!

calzino, Friday, 19 March 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link

New last chance u dropped tbf

Marry and Neghim (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:47 (three years ago) link

Having a bacon

calstars, Saturday, 20 March 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link

Yet another curfew Friday night before Blue Saturday #419432490.

pomenitul, Saturday, 20 March 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I thought about trying to sketch my blueness but fuck it, silence and diversion is easier.

I'm here to listen and nod along to all of youse tho

Call of Scampi: Slack Nephrops (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 April 2021 07:29 (three years ago) link

This probably isn't the place for it but I drank far too much on Saturday night. It was with good company, round a fire in a garden; there were cigars and glorious peaty whisky. But I didn't eat enough and had an appalling hangover and jesus do I still feel wobbly today. This always manifests, particularly when the end of the night is hazy (to say the least), as me thinking I was probably a prick and have offended people/changed their view of me. I know it's ego and guilt and booze (a heady mix) and I've checked and everyone seems fine but I can't shake it and mostly I think 'just give this shit up already' or 'why can't I have some self-control?'.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

feeling that. be gentle with yourself imo.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

"the fear" is a real thing the few days after exactly that situation and i used to think i knew what it was when i was in my twenties but at some stage over the last few years its an absolutely predictable mood that lingers after im out with a group and have had more than is good for me- and its never related to anything ive done (unlike, say, in my twenties)

flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

I have that all the time after social events, even (especially?) ones I was completely sober for.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, hate that fear, though a reprieve from it has been one of those rare pros of the pandemic. I too get it even after big social events where I'm sober, but if I do imbibe that just adds an extra layer of "what dumb things did I possibly say" anxiety to the mix. And, yeah, as I've aged it's never really anything I did do, it's more just stuff like "damn, did I really talk about to that guy about Sopranos for as long as it seems like I did? that must have been insufferable".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link

i have this fear about ilx often enough

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

its never related to anything ive done (unlike, say, in my twenties)

This is key. My hangovers are predictably longer than they used to be, but they're nowhere near as panic attack-inducing.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

Solidarity! Mine is more 'stuff I did in my 30s' rather than anything I do now but yeah it's very much part of any social occasion, pissed-up or otherwise. And I totally get that 'god, did I talk to them for 2 hours about...?!' cringe thing. Awkward bastard.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link

I know those heebie-jeebies, crawling-in-my-skin fear, and as I've aged I've learned they can be managed somewhat: less or no whisky/rum/gin/etc., stick to milder (sub 7%) beers. Even if I drink eleven of them, I can still remember most everything and don't feel as godawful

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

there is no dignified death

Lage Lage Lage Shooting (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 June 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link

Hope you’re ok…

I’m kind of hoping for it to be reasonably peaceful and pain free, with someone quietly chanting:

[

] O nobly-born, that which is called death hath now come. Thou art departing from this world, but thou art not the only one; death cometh to all. Do not cling, in fondness and weakness, to this life. Even though thou clingest out of weakness, thou hast not the power to remain here. Thou wilt gain nothing more than wandering in this Samsara. [

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 6 June 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link

❤️

coke and booze and tiredness

I'm ok

Still time for wandering in samsara

Lage Lage Lage Shooting (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 June 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Take me - my little pastry mother take me
There's a pie shop in the sky

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link

(Phil Collins plays double-time on overdubbed 2nd drum kit)

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 25 June 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link

:D <3

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 03:43 (two years ago) link

and why not

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 03:43 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

gloomy day getting nothing done -- one paragraph tinkered with, knowing there's something off abt the whole long piece -- but mostly stuck feeling the best is past and the good ones are gone

― mark s, Saturday, 15 September 2018 18:42 (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

back here again tbh: i've done better than just one paragraph 2day but the news abt dawn foster has honestly floored me -- i never met her myself but i know several ppl who knew her well and are devastated :(

mark s, Friday, 16 July 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link

I think a lot of people who never met Dawn will have shed some tears over her death, it was terrible - even if a lot of us fans knew she had serious health problems - it didn't diminish the shock of it.

MoMsnet (calzino), Friday, 16 July 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

cosines

Southgate Serves Imperialism (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 July 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link

is it better to have no chance of interpersonal relationships or to actively destroy the chances

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 July 2021 04:33 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/6Mli5lJ.jpg

calstars, Saturday, 17 July 2021 04:42 (two years ago) link

Tried hard to stay healthy all week, for work, for survival, for what? And now it's Saturday morning lying here listening to Flip Your Wig, frightened of how these 2 days of freedom will run away from me and having no clue how to use them except to run headfirst into boozblivion

Southgate Serves Imperialism (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 July 2021 08:15 (two years ago) link

I know that was probably rhetorical, but use that store of health and go for a long walk. At least earn that first beer man!

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 July 2021 08:45 (two years ago) link

earn while you walk is my motto and is partly why I've enjoyed so much success in recent years!

MoMsnet (calzino), Saturday, 17 July 2021 09:11 (two years ago) link

My 2020/2021 motto:

Unbearably gruelling non-stop work in intense solitary confinement conditions that stretch the limits of human endurance - and the weekends are even worse!

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 17 July 2021 11:07 (two years ago) link

Catch a pint with you later dudes

calstars, Saturday, 17 July 2021 12:22 (two years ago) link

Eyyyy
So what did you tossers end up doing today

calstars, Saturday, 17 July 2021 22:32 (two years ago) link

Stuck to Doom Bar zero - surprisingly good for alcohol-free.

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 17 July 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link

very wan and glum yesterday -- and also (less typically of me) just full of dread abouth ways things are headed. not headed for me personally, i'll be ok -- but def the uk at large and far beyond that

the dread is ignited i think by watching several ppl i know -- former colleagues, minor online names i once lined up in the "more or less a good thing" column -- getting more and more radicalised basically glinnerwards. the individuals aren't especially important, they're not "thought leaders" just ppl i know or am aware of: it was much more my sense that their movement in this direction represents a very very bad wider tipping point, and that the mounting ever uglier attack on existing trans rights is a specific culture-war flashpoint being weaponised to enable a much broader crack-down and shut-out… and that many ppl i vaguely assumed wd be on the side against this shut-out (if not especially active or useful) will be actively pushing for it, and indeed already are

some of this is just twitter-bubble nonsense on my part -- my little on-line world is not the world, who cares what those twerps think -- and some of it is the consequence i suspect of my tendency to be highly conflict-avoidant. i don't like getting in fights, and have no practice at being in fights, so i watch ppl being clear and firm when they say "no" to all this (and battle against it without loosing their cool and keeping to their good talking points despite being goaded to explosion point) and envy them and feel useless. i am bad in fights and it's way too late to change that (even if it offloads all the needful activity onto others)

on the whole in the past i have been a "slow and steady wins the race", "things will turn our way" kind of a person -- and on the whole in my lifetime things have done just this, so maybe i wasn't wrong to be. but i think i have stopped believing in either of these claims, and i don't know what to do with my brain in this new state. my skills are very particular and i'm not unproud of them and still have joy of them, but some days they seem very ungermane indeed…

mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:04 (two years ago) link

having written all that out i strongly suspect i am talking my way round something much more obvious and basic (and possibly selfish) but if so i don't know what it is

mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:07 (two years ago) link

the gusts of hate emanating from the Rosie Duffield "supporters" on Twitter this week was very depressing yeah, i had a brief glimpse and thought "fuck this" and stepped away from Twitter for a bit

the broader entanglement of a sense of the world/the nation/civilization/idk declining and doomed and our feelings about our own personal inevitable decline and doom, well, sometimes it's hard to deal with either thread unless you're full-blown millenarian

mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:18 (two years ago) link

a lot easier to believe i might achieve a personal transcedence than that humanity can reach a sociopolitical one tho

mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:21 (two years ago) link

What I try to keep in mind is that where we are now trans-wise would 10 years ago not be unimaginable but still seem far-distant. There's been a lot of ground gained and while even an inch of it lost is a shame, the generation that grew up with it will take it as a baseline.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

(also no-one has ever won a fight on Twitter)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link

sometimes i picture trying to climb out of the blues as like building a house of cards, with really trembly hands, and maybe i get two or three tiers built up over a few days and then i wake up and think fuck am i doing this for? and knock the fucker flat

knowing i'll be back at it, hands shaking like the Waco Kid, in a few more days

mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 July 2021 08:37 (two years ago) link

A porterbottle stood up, stogged to its waist, in the cakey sand dough. A sentinel: isle of dreadful thirst.

i wish i had cuck feet (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 08:40 (two years ago) link

Every day it's good to remind yourself that you could get totally fucked up. Then if you choose not to you can score it as a victory.

i wish i had cuck feet (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 12:10 (two years ago) link

there should be an end zone tho, a properly signed biological marker where if you say drink more than amount X you will guarantee death. it's really physically difficult to Leaving Las Vegas yourself

i wish i had cuck feet (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link

i mean it should be really difficult of course. but nature could've illuminated the target better

i wish i had cuck feet (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link

not crying for anything just musing and enjoying the bounce of the keyboard

i wish i had cuck feet (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 12:14 (two years ago) link

I love that every ilm thread is now just horrific puns on

Every day it's good to remind yourself that you could get totally fucked up. Then if you choose not to you can score it as a victory.
yup

calstars, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link

epiphanic week

wanting to not self-mythologize by monstering myself, everything to extremes, pure ego bullshit

but i've lived a life without empathy or himan connection, deserved nothing

maybe end up with nothing

Tumbledown Duck (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 August 2021 10:58 (two years ago) link

https://cdn.onebauer.media/one/media/5dec/5694/ab24/0419/a833/2e18/free-guy.jpg

A himan earlier today - you've missed nothing tbh.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 August 2021 11:18 (two years ago) link

lolz

i kinda want to watch that, against my better instincts

Tumbledown Duck (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 August 2021 12:26 (two years ago) link

I mostly want to just drink and drink until everything goes away but my body is a lightweight

Tumbledown Duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 August 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link

Why are there people like Frank in the world?

Why are there people who deliberately watch comedy panel shows?

Tumbledown Duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 August 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link

I mean, there was a good reason, but he died yesterday.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link

Wish I had the guts to kill myself

Don't worry failure fans, I don't

pings and noodles (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 August 2021 06:06 (two years ago) link

gonna give my mom your phone number

mookieproof, Monday, 23 August 2021 08:49 (two years ago) link

got a broken ego, broken heart
god i don't even know where to

pings and noodles (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 August 2021 09:56 (two years ago) link

HERE COME JIMMY ZEN AGAIN

pings and noodles (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 August 2021 10:13 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Without ever quite reaching the "guts to do it" stage the insistent logic of ceasing to exist is pounding louder in my head every day

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 09:28 (two years ago) link

Cant argue to logic or anything

Toast is still good, readily available and hard to fuck up. Its a start

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link

If I keep making my own problems I can certainly make some toast

I eat a lot of toast tbf

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link

Crunch time

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link

in no way is this a humblebrag, two clients at work yesterday told me how nice i was and i filled up with such thick despair and self-loathing i'm still trying to squish it now

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 October 2021 12:34 (two years ago) link

and just to prove they were wrong and i'm right i drink myself into incapacity lol 1-0

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 October 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link

Do not think that one has to be sad in order to be militant, even though the thing one is fighting is abominable.

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 October 2021 13:07 (two years ago) link

"Dancing in the Dark" just came on the pub playlist :D

maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 October 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link

I worked out my lack of Yen is killing me

maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 October 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

not even sure if this is anything but better on the page than in my head

i dremt i was once more sharing a flat with my sister, as we did 30 years ago: a big airy single open-plan room full of dexxion shelving covered in our books and projects. no sign of her family -- i guess we were young again maybe and they hadn't come along yet. she was the unhappy one back then (work, romantic life) and i was i guess embedded in the bit of my career that now looks like a surprise success -- but none of that was part of the dream.

i was doing the washing up -- sink as part of a kitchen island in the middle of the room lol -- and wearing headphones but with nothing playing on them, and just sobbing. she had noticed and was coming to ask why as i was thinking "i *want* ppl to notice, it's time it came out, it's time i dealt with it"

what though? why was i unhappy? am i unhappy, like, for reals, without really knowing it? i mean, i think i might be

i'm not struggling personally: i have interesting work (less than i could do with but not none) and a flat i love and a project-in-plan for proto-retirement that's started well. i am fine with the way i live socially -- pandemic has knocked that about it a bit and probably nudged me towards being more of an unscoail weirdo than is good for me but i still have busy spaces to be part of and chums who visit and a fore-real lovely stretch of close family (reading round the boards i am aware i am just absurdly lucky with family, they are nice funny creative people). so far my life has been ok! a few small disappointments but also some achievements!

pandemic is the excuse but i am in retreat -- intellectually if you like -- from the state of the world: which seems to me dismally cruel and irreparable, without possuble upswng in view, the worst outlook i ever remember. when i was young (the 70s and 80s) we were in the shadow of crashing into ghastly lethal destruction, a world war that could end everything in seconds. and somehow the terrible ppl running everything -- for all their extremely bad decisions and actions elsewhere, their crimes -- managed to blunder away from that edge after all and defuse the dangers and etc.

so i went into the 90s and 00 (my thirties and even forties) i guess appreciating that a space could be and had been won, and that "better" was somehow also built into the systems of the world even when no one quite knew how, and i pootled away at my own projects and increasingly also looked after my mum and dad in their last years, and mostly just went along the weay things were going. the wrong ppl were still in charge making evil decisions, but there was somehow a resilience after all.

i think that resilience is all gone. i think we are rolling back to a catastrophic lip and i feel like all my moves and perspectives were shaped in times that just aren't relevant any more. it's not that others aren't manouevring to do something -- far from it -- more like my entire machinery of cultural intuition is now ill-fashioned to read the good from the bad any more.

tl;dr: this is just what getting old is probably. anyway, my everyday gameface will now go back on and i'll do a day's editing i'm pleased with and organise stuff for my retirement project and chat to my nice buddies. in my dream i was crying maybe for a sense of uselessness and all that time wasted looking in the wrong direction -- i mean, this is just my guess. once in the mid-90s i dreamed the govt rang me up to "solve northern ireland" so it's not like my dreams can't be very dumb and attached to literally nothing of substance.

mark s, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 11:10 (two years ago) link

"pandemic is the excuse but i am in retreat -- intellectually if you like -- from the state of the world: which seems to me dismally cruel and irreparable, without possuble upswng in view"

I like that your spelling went to bits on this section of your post :) like you don't want to believe it.

"and a project-in-plan for proto-retirement that's started well."

This is really good to hear!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:04 (two years ago) link

anyway, my everyday gameface will now go back on

So much of late mid-life is having the courage and energy to continue to play your role interestingly, even as you become more disillusioned by society and keenly aware of the frailties and limitations of your own "moves and perspectives".

(You and your = me and my, obv.)

Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:00 (two years ago) link

the sadness is coming from outside the collective unhouseness

god the sheer tedious effort of marching in a straight line and how quick the rumble strips will squish you

it isn't even a Fraktion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 November 2021 01:23 (two years ago) link

So if the social worker sets up the annual meeting and never turns up, that's a dick move, right? Never responds to any text enquiry "eh, are you remembering this?", fuckit, let's go drink, oh 4 days later apparently there was a Dead Aunt reason for that, no bother I guess you were too greiving to respond to basic fucken queries. BUT, if you reschedule some weeks later and totally ghost AGAIN then that's fucking taking the piss, yeah we waited around for an hour and an a half before calling it before I took my weekly opportunity to go buy vodka, this time my PA didn't bother to chase her up, instead we told my mother about it who is prolly still ranting at her right now, I donno, maybe she's got more dead aunts than Stephen Ireland has grannies, I don't care, I'm done with this shit and am walking away, all I know is if they send that same lady out again I'm definitely gunna be drunk in advance. Cus I genuinely can't cope with this stuff, "dealing with people" and all that. Her job is talking to ASD folk, shouldn't she have a little consideration? Also her name sounds really threatening, K4t13 Kl1nk? Sounds like the warden from some 50s prison shit. I met her once, kinda, and she seemed nice but I never looked her in the face. Then as she was leaving she asked me if she should take off her mask so I could see her face. I told her nah then she asked me if one of my pictures was a woodcarving, cus she does those? Which made me think maybe she was actually cool but now NO, fuck her to hell. I miss the previous one, who retired to go travel in a caravan, which I'm struggling in her absence but I have nothing but respect for her withdrawal from all this shit

The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Friday, 5 November 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

Sorry, I didn't know which thread to vent shit onto

The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Friday, 5 November 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link

this one welcomes venters of all nations

i'm coming up
i think we're gonna get this party started

it isn't even a Fraktion (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 November 2021 11:58 (two years ago) link

Sometimes it's nice to be in the pub with all your friends and the Saturday sport is on and you are warm and loved but then later on it's not your friend it's some randoms in the late night pub that you might be annoying or that might be trying to rob you or kill you and you don't really remember that bit or much of where you've been for several hours and then you wake up and it's 3 o'clock on sunday afternoon and there's ill)advised expenditure and work tomorrow and the bleak midwinter and why and that's enough and never again but it will happen again because otherwise it's just alone

huile about oeuf (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 November 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

Love you NV. It’s not much but we do.

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 28 November 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

:) thank you

of course like everybody else i could simply choose to change my self-destructive behaviour

huile about oeuf (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 November 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

I have done well with that myself this year BUT have backslid so many times the past few months. I think I’m on the other side of it, but shit’s hard. All you can really do is pick yourself up, take small steps and just keep going. Understand that’s incredibly tedious and it doesn’t feel worth it in short term. Our brains have these short cuts for a reason.

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 28 November 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

The weather's fine
And I feel so, so, so

Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 12:10 (two years ago) link

Selfishness of wanting to fall off the map, wanting to disappear - it hurts the people you really care about, and they won't want to let you, and you'll abuse their love by allowing them to protect you from the real consequences of your own desire to cease. And you'll chicken out yourself, frightened of how bad life can get before you escape it, so you let them help you, you leech people, for your own selfish refusal. Which is never a true refusal. And to die is another face of the same egoism. Nothing you can do for yourself isn't wholly selfish.

Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 January 2022 14:06 (two years ago) link

much as i wish you strength to surmount these feelings, i also think you should harness them and start a one-man metal project

imago, Thursday, 13 January 2022 14:08 (two years ago) link

i know i was a bit harsh to you the other week btw; i'm sorry if it caused any hurt, thoroughly retracted obv

imago, Thursday, 13 January 2022 14:31 (two years ago) link

To be honest imago I've been peeved with you for a bit and I'm sure nothing I say on ilx when I'm in that mood doesn't deserve censure. I hate holding grudges, it's bullshit

Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 January 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link

The rest is just...ugh...self-reflection without change is a pointless drag on other people. Even acknowledging my own selfishness is another kind of selfishness

Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 January 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

And plenty still love ya anyway man

pandmac (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 January 2022 16:31 (two years ago) link

i know why the pished bird sings

Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 12:38 (two years ago) link

literally pouring in booze to fill up the aching hole and shut out the fear

Buchiko and The Man (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 January 2022 10:40 (two years ago) link

I made the mistake of doing an honest estimate of how many units I'm currently shifting during an appointment and they did a wellness service referral on me. When the concerned wellness support worker contacted me I told them it was all a misunderstanding cos I was counting the units wrong and it's much lower, honestly!

calzino, Saturday, 22 January 2022 10:50 (two years ago) link

was suggested to me yesterday it was time for a referral. uh, refer me somewhere that takes away these feelings as quick as booze does and we'll talk

Buchiko and The Man (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 January 2022 10:59 (two years ago) link

it's such fucking violence that other drugs aren't legal isn't it

imago, Saturday, 22 January 2022 11:14 (two years ago) link

Yup

Buchiko and The Man (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 January 2022 11:23 (two years ago) link

The sunshine is beautiful this morning, I should wander around in that first. But I think this is full flight or fight mode since I woke up, and I'm not a fighter

Buchiko and The Man (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 January 2022 11:24 (two years ago) link

Fly away on Venga Airways comes the pertinent suggestion from the pub's background music

Buchiko and The Man (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 January 2022 11:25 (two years ago) link

The vampire-junky must be insatiable and must pursue their desires up to the point of self-destruction, but must never cross the line into annihilation.

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link

Oh mother my mouth is full of stars
As cartridges in the tray
My blood is a twin-branched scarlet tree
And it runs all runs away.

Oh ‘Cooks to the galley’ is sounded off
And the lads are down in the mess
But I lie down by the forrard gun
With a bullet in my breast.

Don’t send me a parcel at Christmas time
Of socks and nutty and wine
And don’t depend on a long weekend
By the Great Western Railway line.

Farewell, Aggie Weston, the Barracks at Guz,
Hang my tiddley suit on the door.
I’m sewn up neat in a canvas sheet
And I shan’t be home no more.

I have a voulez-vous? with death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 February 2022 12:21 (two years ago) link

or i'm still alive and there's nothing i want to do

I have a voulez-vous? with death (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 February 2022 12:31 (two years ago) link

two months pass...
two months pass...

can't get my brain to work and feel so itchy on the inside, like I can't stand to exist in this body or with this stupid slopping unset jelly of a mind any more

(got no better ideas though. if only hating where and what you were could provide enough impetus to become something/somewhere else. my old therapist would say "if you can't make yourself work to fix it yet you must just not want to enough yet and there's no point talking about it". if I don't get on and make some kind of progress to write in my diary for this week my current one might say that too. thanks, man, but I feel so stuck and I don't know why I'm so obstinately workshy wrt this and everything else, I'm sorry)

hello hello hello blue whateverdayers

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

<3

it's easy for those people to just talk about fixing stuff

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

Nothing useful to say but love you spacecadet and hate that feeling of discomfort- hope it either reveals itself or resolves itself :(

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

💙💙💙💙💙

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

Hiya - lots of love!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

ah, another glorious summer day trying to find the least destructive way to deal with being sad and anxious and without purpose

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 July 2022 08:44 (one year ago) link

teenage angst has paid off,
well now i'm shit and old

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2022 07:16 (one year ago) link

sorry NV, much love

and thanks and love to everyone who said nice things to me! sorry I didn't have the energy to respond at the time

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 17 July 2022 10:28 (one year ago) link

Hey aps! I keep meaning to bump that favourite ilx posters thread or whatever its called, cos I so want to put you on there but at the same time I don't want embarrass you because its kind of an awkward thread sometimes. This seems like a better place though, so I'm going to park that sentiment here instead. Always enjoy your posts except for those where you're feeling sad :( Hope you're on top of things now, sorry for any cringe this post might bring.

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 17 July 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

+ big love to NV of course, I'm sorry you're struggling right now

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 17 July 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

thank you Nick, and thank you spacey

here's Barbara Dixon and Elaine Paige asking why am i falling apart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2SDInk6voA

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2022 07:27 (one year ago) link

speaking to my kind, supportive line manager on Friday about returning to work and i assure her it's not the job that's the problem, i like the job (mental reservation: as much as any job)

and now it's sunday and the anxiety bubbling up curdling into clots of recklessness and resentment and mostly just i don't know what, a sac of restlessness that i float around in helplessly

and it's not the job. it's jobs. it's this life. it's this world.

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 July 2022 07:33 (one year ago) link

The job, like the world, is better for having you in it though - I'm aware that's probably minimal help.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 31 July 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

when you're falling off a very high cliff there are moments when the necessity of gravity is kinda joyous

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2022 11:59 (one year ago) link

that's real alright

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 August 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

look after yrself NV, we ♥️ u

mark s, Saturday, 13 August 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

i feel incredibly ill and incredibly fake all at once

just had a little inner debate about whether the GP would give me a fake blood test to keep me quiet, guess that was a stupid thing to think even momentarily

i could just, y'know, stop being like this. why don't i? why won't i? why aren't i doing anything about it? (there is nothing of value to do)

this post brought to you in heavy parentheses, i will try to chat shit about the ephemera of the day elsewhere

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 07:56 (one year ago) link

i wish i was better at loving and caring and

not just a lip service gloss on my gross endless

solipsism

i wish

i

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 September 2022 10:57 (one year ago) link

remember you can't die remember you will die

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 September 2022 12:21 (one year ago) link

❤️

mark s, Friday, 2 September 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

Yeah, what he said.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 2 September 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

I'm sorry for drama posting

Thanks both

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 September 2022 04:16 (one year ago) link

Drink to the men who protect you and I
Drink, drink, drain your glass, raise your glass high

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 September 2022 10:32 (one year ago) link

Drink, drink, drain your glass

Change display name in my last (onimo), Friday, 16 September 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

Gimme a double, give yourself one two
Gimme a short beer, one for you too
And a toast to everything that doesn't move

brimstead, Friday, 16 September 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

i don't understand how i can be living a life that makes me so unhappy but be incapable of changing the slightest thing

Mizue loves company (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

don't even know if it's therapeutic to moan. such a self-inflicted mess, such a repetitive attention suck, such a waste. just the worst. endless cyclical pitypoorme. ugh. uggho

Mizue loves company (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Aderyn :(

saigo no ice cream (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

It's raining, it's pouring, my love life is boring me to tears

saigo no ice cream (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 October 2022 09:22 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Spent 15 minutes debating with myself the value of typing out how bad I feel

Maybe it shd be something else

Maybe abandon everything

the sex lives of quoll-ish girls (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 23:30 (one year ago) link

keep plugging through the mud nv, never know when you might hit firmer ground. sending hugs!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 23:33 (one year ago) link

Thank you bud

bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link

please stop thinking about killing myself I promise I won't kill my myself I can't stop thinking about killing myself

bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

If it helps in the slightest, I hope you're all right.

Is there anyone you can phone?

djh, Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link

Please don’t kill yourself

calstars, Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link

i'm sorry i shdn't have written that out

i'm sure i'm not gonna

the noise of it has been bouncing round my head all week tho

thanks both for responding

bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

stupid thing: i've done safeguarding as part of work stuff for years, if i was checking in on myself i'd be "ok no immediate plans, no immediate risk"

so i guess i know that this noise is not full emergency but ffs i'm just a bit tired of it

bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

No pressure from here but this internet rando quite likes your posts so please stick around. Plus, your new user name is pretty much my essence. Apart from the 'full of beans' bit.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Sunday, 5 February 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link

guilty confession is i have an uncontrollable moptop

bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

I've been told to tell you that the bald community will let this one pass and will not be taking any further action!

calzino, Sunday, 5 February 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

sorry for edgelord

bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

surely you mean shinelord?

calzino, Sunday, 5 February 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link

lol

bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link

it's only recently I've discovered that sometimes talking about desperately unpalatable shit that is going on in your life in a semi formal kind of manner with a mh worker can actually help. But now after 6 months of it they've closed my file for now because there are other similar basket-cases like me who are needing help and they have to ration it out. I don't know what point I'm trying to make here, but I think sometimes it does help to get things in the open - even if it isn't good stuff.

calzino, Sunday, 5 February 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link

i've had to sit thru 4 zoom lectures about CBT just to earn the right to get a counsellor. irony is i've been making solid progress since the start of the year, this weekend has been a wobble but i'll get thru. the internal suicide mantra, been a week or more, idk i think it might be my inner demon shouting louder for want of attention

bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:50 (one year ago) link

problem with self-loathing is how can you be sure you're not right?

bald, mean and full of beans (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:51 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

i think i wish i could unstick my gears, but i'm not sure if i don't revel in being stuck, else why would i stick like this?

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 March 2023 10:39 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pOe92skrBg

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 March 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

I have started to say
"A quarter of a century"
Or "thirty years back"
About my own life.

It makes me breathless
It's like falling and recovering
In huge gesturing loops
Through an empty sky.

All that's left to happen
Is some deaths (my own included).
Their order, and their manner,
Remain to be learnt

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 July 2023 11:36 (eleven months ago) link

Huge passages of time have the capability to really mess with your mind and sense of self.

I still have things on my mental 'to do' list that I added in the early 2000s and haven't got round to yet - and that seems like just a few years ago. I alternate between despair/regret at 30 -40 years gone, and the thought that it's meaningless to think about now those years have vanished into the past. The only thing that matters - if anything matters about those years - is whether they contained beautiful or interesting moments that I appreciated at the time. Hopefully more interesting and beautiful moments to come.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:05 (eleven months ago) link

Sometimes when I’m half awake I think of a pleasant memory from 20 years ago and it puts me in a nice relaxed state and I fall back asleep

calstars, Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:15 (eleven months ago) link

i think mostly i don't "regret" because time's an unstoppable movement and as you say Bob it's kind of meaningless. the loops and whooshes in that Larkin poem tho - i remember reading it at 18 and understanding what was said but not having any sense of that feeling. now that feeling and that poem spend days hanging around

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:38 (eleven months ago) link

I have more problems with the present I think: eg often instead of enjoying this present moment, I’m so often cranky and irritable from the indignities of life and unable to relax despite my best intentions and the knowledge that I’m just sabotaging myself.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:58 (eleven months ago) link

well yeah, that's one of the reasons it seemed best to mostly abandon this thread

i'm weirded out sometimes now by what feels almost like performing my age. it probably doesn't belong on the pile of things that are actually bad and make me sad tho

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 July 2023 15:00 (eleven months ago) link

akshully maybe the majority of things that are making me sad now are things that people in their mid-fifties don't have to deal with if they made better life choices than me

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 July 2023 15:03 (eleven months ago) link

Sometimes when I’m half awake I think of a pleasant memory from 20 years ago and it puts me in a nice relaxed state and I fall back asleep

i wonder if we can all do this but forget that we can do it when we're too focused on the downers

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 July 2023 15:07 (eleven months ago) link

Houellebecq wrote in one of his worst novels when ruminating on nostalgia that the present is like an "abscess of suffering" we have to drag about with us, caught between the infinities of happiness and peace that are the past and the future. It was one of them beautifully concise lines of writing that rung a bell with me at the time and stuck with me, wasn't so sure about him including the future in this though!

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:04 (eleven months ago) link


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