Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

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(ok this is a total tangent if people want to discuss this further some DJ shadow thread should probably be revived)

I love Portishead.

"Western Eyes" > "Sour Times" > "All Mine"

On a sidenote, WHO the FUCK would EVER vote for a piece of generic American emoesque indie-rock crap like "Web in Front"!?!?

Here's something interesting. When all the new european critics was going nuts over eurodance in the mid 90s, a DJ named screw was redefining hip-hop in Houston and music today outside of Houston is just beginning to feel its effects. I'm not hugely familiar w/ miami bass, but that shit was going on at the same time as revolutionary NYC hip-hop that already gets well-deserved props.

I'm not saying that european music from this period sucks - in fact, I've bought some st. etienne and pulp specifically because of Scott PL's recommendations in the past. And I've discovered lots of european dance music that I like because of ILM and Simon Reynold's generation ecstasy.

But seriously, this myth about european music in the early 90s somehow being "better" or "more progressive" than its American counterparts is bullshit; this was a fertile period in the U.S. in a lot of different ways, and there is tons of u.s. music from the 90s that is not represented in this poll. Not that I'm surprised- obviously, this board is british based (originally) and its not like i expected miami bass and southern hip-hop (geto boys excepted) to get nods. But yo - this american-music-sucks thing about the early 90s is some crazy talk.

namean?

i have heard plenty of early 90's rap and none of it really resonated with me. it is ok, but gritty new york hip hop is just more to my liking. i downloaded 'mind playing tricks on me' when the nominations were put out because there was some buzz here about it. it didnt do anything for me. maybe i had to listen to it back when it was put out, but truthfully, if i dont like it now, i am not putting it on the list. i really liked soundgarden in the 90's, but now i find them to be annoying so therefore i didnt vote for them.

i voted for what i liked. i also stand by the idea that the european songs/albums that are listed have held up better than the stuff that did not make the list.

you may disagree, but you really arent going to convince me or anyone.

And I had already said: But seriously, this myth about european music in the early 90s somehow being "better" or "more progressive" than its American counterparts is bullshit;

And trying to say its somehow "aged" better is fucking stupid, just because Pulp resonated with you back when you were a little kid who called his mom "mum" and his pants "knickers" doesn't mean that the geto boys didn't resonate with a lot of other people.

And that's my criticism of this list, why I don't really feel it. Holding those bands up as the pentultimate achievement of the 90s reeks of whitewashing.

Now obviously this is a poll so you know, whatever - what people like is what people like. But to suggest that this period of british music was inherently "better" or "more progressive" than its counterparts in america is bullshit. I mean, I'm not saying hip-hop was more important, I'm saying that at the very least it is equally as important. If you hadn't even heard "Mind Playing Tricks" until now, how can you know that Euro music has "aged" better? You clearly haven't really engaged with American music too much anyway.

And I "gritty new york hip-hop" fits under the column of "early 90s rap". And also mid 90s, and late 90s, and even now to a degree (although much less so)

the british music of the 90's SOUNDS BETTER TO ME THAN AMERICAN MUSIC OF THE SAME PERIOD. it has held up better to my ears and to the ears most of the people on this message board it seems (although the top twenty will probably make your hissy fit seem completely ridiculous because there isnt a whole lot of british hits left to be listed).

i listened to a lot of alternative rock in the 90's. i also listened to some rap. but the problem is that mtv and the radio were my only mediums for music since i wasnt old enough to be buying music. i am sorry if that doesnt meet your expectations. i am sorry i wasnt there to "experience" it when it happened. i only know so much. you like rap, i like scarfpop. i appreciate rap for what it is and have tried to like it on a higher level, but it just isnt happening. i hope you have done the same with the stuff on my singles list. i just think its ridiculous for you to be so righteous about your music tastes to call an entire message board out about it.

And I never questioned your taste you can like whatever you like.
I'm not calling anyone out.

I'm just saying that I think its weird how much british music from this period ppl are throwing up here.

And if you want to turn this into "I'm right that this period was better for the british music because most people here agree" then I'll just turn around and point to how little effect Pulp had on American radio and how little their influence is being felt in today's american pop music (when compared with screw or miami bass)

No one is questioning your right to like whatever you like. Its just a list of music and I have a right to say that I wish there were more people on ILM representing for (insert artist here).

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I'm just saying that I think its weird how much british music with a very similar aesthetic from this period ppl are throwing up here.

regarding the influence on current music... i think that european dance music has a great influence on neptunes type production in rap music.

also, the fact that miami bass and screw have so much influence in the last few years... maybe thats why i am not really interested in a lot of music these last few years.

this board is england-based. i expect british bands to fair well. just as the sound opinions board is chicago-based so there will be a lot of wilco love. wishing that there is more southern rap on a list from england is kinda laughable actually. sad too.

JAY-Z - "Big Pimpin'" (523 points, 31 votes, 1 first place vote)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004U8ZQ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

comments?

dont question my music tastes unless you really know them.

And I also said multiple times that there is britpop that I like.

DAFT PUNK - "Around the World" (538 points, 36 votes)

http://transbenik.free.fr/Daft/around2.JPG

" "Around The World" had that typically early 80s 4/4 drum beat with handclaps and a Linn-sounding drum machine type og drum sound. The synths were present in techno before it too, but then they would have more like either the standard 2/2 trance beat with roughly the same emphasis on bass drum and snare drum, or they would have breakbeats. "Around The World" was a revival of the more typical early 80s sound in that matter."
-- Geir Hongro

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DR. DRE - "Nuthin' But A G Thang" (561 points, 33 votes, 2 first place votes)

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/dr_dre.jpg

"Although it's not trumpeted about as such, I fully believe that "Ain't Nuthin Like a G Thang" had just as powerful an impact on modern music as did "Smells Like Teen Spirit". I still get all woohoo and shit when "...G Thang" comes on the radio..."
-- nickalicious

I'm just saying that I think its weird how much british music with a very similar aesthetic from this period ppl are throwing up here.

So what you're saying is that you would have wanted ppl to vote for stuff *you* like, instead of stuff they like, so *your* tastes would have been better reflected on the list.
Uh-huh.

SINEAD O'CONNOR - "Nothing Compares 2 U" (578 points, 32 votes, 1 first place vote)

http://sineadoconnor.safeway.sk/discography/cds/1990/nothing_compares_2_u_big.jpg

"Sinead's "Nothing Compares 2 U" ... simply a stunning song. Whenever I hear it in a public space I retreat within myself and can only pay attention to the music. Recently my parents were visiting town, and my mother was talking on and on in a bakery and yet I was completely elsewhere, wrapped up in this as it trailed out of the ceiling speakers..."
-- Dare

STARDUST - "Music Sounds Better With You" (581 points, 34 votes, 2 first place votes)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000DAHL.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Few tracks in the '90s were better and I think teh poll reflects that, yep

sinead's 'nc2u' blows any of prince's away

MASSIVE ATTACK - "Unfinished Sympathy" (590 points, 34 votes, 2 first place votes)

http://212.85.103.226/massiveattack/massiveattack/img/dyskografia/unfinishedsympathy7.jpg

" "Unfinished Sympathy" is a deeply brilliant song on almost every level I can think of; singing, arrangement, production, rhythm, the video, its influence on the music scene, etc etc."
--Dan Perry

ILM and its Daft Punk worship ...

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BECK - "Loser" (592 points, 34 votes)

http://www.oi.co.kr/new_admin/cd_pictures_new/02001900011.gif

"I had a taped version of Loser by Beck off the radio, and for some reason they cut it off after the first verse, so I listened and listened to that tape and memorized the whole first verse, and then when I heard the whole song my mind expanded, and now I'm omnipotent."
-- NA

That bottom 50 was exceptionally tight though, with all those ties.

AALIYAH - "Are You That Somebody?" (599 points, 32 votes, 3 first place votes)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000G6J4.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
(christ)

having some trouble finding comments for this one, dammit.

NIRVANA - "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (615 points, 30 votes, 1 first place vote)

http://ubl.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drd500/d510/d510346t4u2.jpg

"If you can not still turn up the fuckin' stereo and feel that "feeling" to the opening chords of "Smells Like Teen-spirit" then stop being a Rock Snob and trade your copies of Nevermind and In Utero and Bleach in at the used CD shoppe (maybe they'll go to a good home, you can keep Unplugged to play at Tuesday's wine and cheese party)and see if you can get a pristine copy of Mozart's Requiem to play at your funeral 'cause Baby, it's O-V-E-R."
-- Speedy Gonzalas

BLACKSTREET - "No Diggity" (616 points, 31 votes, 2 first place votes)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006TGV.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

"Riley was interviewed by MTV years back and mentioned how the track was laying down the foundations for a 'heavier r n' b' sound. the guitar lick and 'mmm hmmm' vocal are lifted straight from old blues and you get the impression Moby has spent a while now trying to imitate what they've done here. addding a Dre style beat and the ragtime-ish piano...its such a great hook - total head nodding booty shaking stuff."
--blueski