please explain unfinished sympathy to me

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so this massive attack song. I am to understand that people like it a lot for some reason. but I think it is worse than every song on blue lines except the one from the lion king. why is this song supposed to be so great?

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 06:53 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

josh i kiss you

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:04 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

the beat sounds like, you know, sub drum machine early 90s british indie 'beats'. like st etienne only not quite as lame.

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:08 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

josh, it was 1990 for chrissakes. what do you want?

don't make me cap you for the st etienne thing.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:10 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

you go ahead and be a big fucking pussy if you want, don't let me stop you

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:10 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

what kind of world am i living in where i'm defending massive attack to josh kortbein? WE LET THEM DO THIS TO US DONT YOU UNDERSTAND

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

and was the lion king song supposed to play in nature company outlets or bath and body works or something?

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:13 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

man the other songs are good, but let's be honest here

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:14 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

whales!

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:15 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

jess do you like enigma?

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:15 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i havent listened to blue lines in like 2 years! i think my sister has it (to be honest this doesnt do much to refute yr nature company/banana republic theory)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:15 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

does she own a rain stick?

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:16 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

or have any henna tatoos?

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:16 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

no, but she's a fucking yuppie

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:17 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

alex: The "Brits" will awake soon and clear everything up haha
josh: 'hold up now chap actually I think it's a right touching tune'
josh: 'those surging strings, that beautiful negress voice'
geeta: 'haw haw, right i think that's quite the er, a bit er, haw haw its pop music, innit'

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:18 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

haha i meant it affectionately god damn it, i like the brits even though they enslaved my people back in the day!!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:20 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

hey geeta you and sundar should collaborate with these edgy new ideas of yours

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

josh there's already an asian dub foundation

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:22 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i mean, do really need any more talvin singh collaborations?

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:23 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It's facking laaavly mate, and no mistake. Lawd luvvaduck, apples an' pairs, how's yer father etc.

Shit, I didn't get "Unfinished Sympathy" at all for literally years, lost as I was in an indie ghetto populated solely by the Sultans Of Ping and the Mock Turtles. Now I kinda love it, but in the same way I love my gran, y'know? It's loved by almost everybody, but nobody, with hindsight, can actually tell me why, apart from its mere existence. And I'm not entirely sure that's enough.

Charlie (Charlie), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:23 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

josh your problem is that you don't dance

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:23 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

(very pleased my gran's idea of technology is a teasmade - she'd kick my arse if she read that)

Charlie (Charlie), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:24 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

JOSH was on a DANCEFLOOR tonite, Geeta!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:24 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i think even josh could dance to this

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:25 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

haha that dude said "arse"

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:25 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

geeta the speakers were so loud that my ass was moving anyway

if they wanted me to dance to it shouldn't it have a beat that doesn't suck ass?

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:25 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

can we get a moderator to change that to 'ass'?

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:26 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

geeta do you demand reparations?

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:26 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

rave on feel the voibe

haha ronan to thread!!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:26 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

She wants 40 acres of opium and a goat!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:27 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two textile mills and a lotus

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:28 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

that goddamn goat better not eat all the opium

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:29 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

you and the goat can get stoned and make IDM

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:30 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

or bad german expressionist film knockoffs

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:31 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

This goat's name is Tom Jenkinson, isn't it?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:32 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

you and the goat can get stoned and make IDM

Better: Goatrance.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:33 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

oh jody no. no jody no.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:34 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

You told me to post, dork.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:34 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

jbr was a little shy at first but she turned out ok, cmon giver a hand folx

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:34 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i dont do any of those things!!

josh you're still not dancing

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:36 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

that's because someone is playing fucking unfinished sympathy

Josh (Josh), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:36 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Insidious rhythm in place, DJ Goat can easily cherry-pick melodies (and cultural memories) proven by time and popularity to stick to the brainpan like glittery peanut butter. It's functionalist goat music, if that wasn't readily apparent. And if it works as trance music too, well, that's just a happy side effect."

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:37 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

haha jess your mom has no place in this thread

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:40 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

actually i was posting a picture of your arranged marriage

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:43 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

that's what you think but baby she sticks to me like glittery peanut butter

geeta (geeta), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:44 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

can we get a moderator to change that to 'ass'?

No we fucking can't! Bastards, taking our beauteous language and making it all stoooopid...

Charlie (Charlie), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:44 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i can't really make a "roof of your mouth" joke about my own mother, but the perry-like temptation is almost too strong...

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:46 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

WHA BLO WIT CHICHI FASSYMON TALKIN BOUT YARDA MAN
NONE U FASS KNO NUFFIN BOUT THE MASSIVE SOUND

U KNO NUFFIN TILL U HEARD 3D SMASHIN IT IN FLESH AND DADDY G ROLLIN KRIS OVER A 4BEAT LIK WIT X AMOUNT A CRACKMAN YARDIES MASHIN UP INSIDE THE ARENA

ALLOW DIS FORUM

HUNTA D in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 November 2002 07:48 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, wait. Jess is a prick.

Tom Millar (Millar), Friday, 22 November 2002 08:03 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

no, that's Scotland. get it right, Wells

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

there's nothing to gain from fucking scotland in the ass.

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:15 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

fucking scotland in the ass.

This is what I'll call my autobiography.

(nb: I've never been to Scotland, nor fucked a Scotsman in the ass.)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not touching that one

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm just full of great jokes tonight, aren't I?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:26 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

(and by "great" I mean "awkwardly unfunny")

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:27 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I was referring to Wells's reply, not yours, JBR

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:31 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

ah.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:32 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, get lost, jbr...

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:35 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Fucking Scotland in the Ass" is what Billy Connelly should have called his autobiography obv.

gazza, Friday, 22 November 2002 09:36 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Up your nose with a rubber hose, Wells.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:37 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"JOSH was on a DANCEFLOOR tonite, Geeta! "

Rubbing his chin chin à la the Wittgenstein prat no doubt.

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:42 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

how come i'm "Wells" now?

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:43 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

anyone remember back when jk used to unironically talk about 'the holy trip-hop trinity'

artiste, Friday, 22 November 2002 13:13 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So this is where the AIM conversation ended up.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 November 2002 14:02 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Unfinished Sympathy" is gorgeous. The beat is naive and rolling, particularly with the little percussion flourishes. The chord progression in the string arrangement is fantastic, especially with the supsensions flying all over the place and the violin melody at the end. Shara Nelson's singing is gorgeous, with the octave leap in the chorus being one of those perfect moments in a pop song.

The song is impeccable and Kortbein, you FUCK OFF for that "beautiful Negress voice" crack.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 22 November 2002 14:49 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I think I've said enough about this. But can I just say I find it extremely boring once more?

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 22 November 2002 14:55 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

this is all very interesting, but i'm still waiting for ronans opinion

gareth (gareth), Friday, 22 November 2002 14:59 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I love it gareth, if I were to make a top ten of........oh I don't know say singles, singles OF ALL TIME, and I could only include one DANCE RECORD, I WOULD MAKE SURE IT WAS THIS.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 22 November 2002 15:14 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

what lion king song????

[i think Unfinished Sympathy is the worst track on Blue Lines... the sound of the milk bottles being bashed together in the beat is nice though]

michael (michael), Friday, 22 November 2002 22:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i love it and i don't care what anyone says >:(
"aiyaiyaiyaiyai"

minna (minna), Saturday, 23 November 2002 09:08 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

who dat who dat who dat who dat

s trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 23 November 2002 09:14 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"what lion king song????"

Apparently, it's One Love. A good song, btw.

man, Saturday, 23 November 2002 14:42 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Is the lynch-directed m video for this worth checking for?

Honda (Honda), Saturday, 23 November 2002 14:53 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Surely the Lion King song is "Hymn from the Big Wheel" or whatever it is called?

I wonder if "Unfinished Sympathy" sounded "seminal" or somesuch in '91. It's certainly an odd track to have birthed a genre.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 23 November 2002 23:18 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"unfinished sympathy" is one of those songs that's always sounded *important*.

michael wells (michael w.), Saturday, 23 November 2002 23:31 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Hymn to the Big Wheel and Unfinished Sympathy are actually my two favorite songs from that album, I think, not the worst.

man, Sunday, 24 November 2002 01:08 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

could someone without our curse of history even point out the connection between what turned out to be "downtempo" and "unfinished sympathy" now?

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 24 November 2002 03:37 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

especially since unfinished sympathy is the only house-tempo track on the album!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 24 November 2002 04:07 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

it seems downtempo but it's uptempo :: it feels like a song at rest, but the chords never resolve, which is kind of clever if you think about the name of the song. insert [eh it's pop music innit?!@] here

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 24 November 2002 04:10 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

sasha frere-jones had a good analogy about the creation of downtempo being more akin to cutting the appropriate length of fabric off a bolt. which is about right, some people (kruder & dorf, fer instance) have plusher, more intricate fabric and they know just when to cut rather than let it all go on a bit too long so everything looks saggy and baggy. but it seems to rub up uncomfortably with massive's whole shtick, which always felt (to me) like the attempt to merge house/jazz/electro/non-verbal music of yr choice with The Song (which i guess was the project of the 90s, really.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 24 November 2002 04:18 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Mezzanine woz bettah

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 24 November 2002 04:56 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

mezzanine also more fabric-like, qed!

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 24 November 2002 05:05 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

while i'm here, maybe someone could explain blue lines to me. my theory is that if you didn't hear this at the time it came out, you are going to have a hard time getting into it. i never heard a single track off this album til this year. to me it just sounds like a 10th grade science project ("these computers are cool, you can sample records into them!!") protection = freshman year of college. mezzanine = declared business major

ron (ron), Sunday, 24 November 2002 06:06 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could those who don't like "Unfinished Sympathy" explain what's not to like? Just curious.

man, Sunday, 24 November 2002 08:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

everyone knows that "safe from harm" is secretly much better, but never talks about it for some reason

V, Sunday, 24 November 2002 10:36 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

It's about the vocal performance! One of the best ever! Fule!

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 06:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i love it and i don't care what anyone says >:(
"aiyaiyaiyaiyai"

-- minna (minna), Saturday, November 23, 2002 4:08 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

who dat who dat who dat who dat

-- s trife (simon_tr), Saturday, November 23, 2002 4:14 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

and what, Saturday, 8 December 2007 21:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee234/michelle__7/alfy.jpg

Heave Ho, Saturday, 8 December 2007 21:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Safe From Harm" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Unfinished Sympathy"

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 9 December 2007 03:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Lately > everything else

Mr. Goodman, Sunday, 9 December 2007 04:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Snrub............o?...t?...m?

The Reverend, Sunday, 9 December 2007 06:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ten years pass...

Classic forever

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:17 (nine months ago) Permalink

yeah.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2018 02:37 (nine months ago) Permalink

majesty

calstars, Thursday, 8 March 2018 03:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

mix this with walk on by by el perro del mar. st etienne version or original

music saved my life (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 23:36 (five months ago) Permalink

I was listening to a John McLaughlin track the other day and suddenly came upon the source of that sample.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 29 June 2018 23:51 (five months ago) Permalink

this thread upsets me

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:43 (five months ago) Permalink

I was just thinking that Poo. How does it take them time to get it?

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:45 (five months ago) Permalink

The Lion King thing was pretty funny though

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 30 June 2018 00:51 (five months ago) Permalink


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