Primal Scream: C or D?

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oh man i'm sorry if i've inadvertently raised expectations please quell them immediately. the mandolin only kicks in as if in 3/4 of the way through with a shit eating shrug of desperation

cw (cww), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link

the new single sounds like bad zztop with extra added mandolin it is truly gruesome, toe curlingly milk curdlingly bad

bollocks. the new single sounds like xtrmnr-era prml scrm going rock, with a mandolin, and as such is absolutely fucking wonderful. irritatingly, it disappeared from the iTunes music store (UK) just as i was trying to buy it, and now won't come back. fuckers.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

"Screamadelica" and "Vanishing Point" were both classic albums.

The rest are largely dud, particularly "Give Out But Don't Give Up"

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Apologies for the baseball analogy, but the Scream are like a batter who swings for the bleachers every time. Yeah, there are strike-outs but when they connect...

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I am totally excited about a sub-ZZ top song with a mandolin.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link

you should be, shakey mo! i've managed to find a shitty recorded-underwater rip of it, and even that fucking rules.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

its funny how all the British folx seem to hate them for their overexposure (and its attendant revelations about lame personal behavior/viewpoints of the bandmembers). Since we don't get that in America, the band is BEYOND obscure, a cult thing all the way - I could care less about their tabloid shenanigans, I just love the music.... (how much? I just ordered a vinyl copy of the Dixie Narco ep. that's how much)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Shakey OTMFM.

Where can I hear this new single??? Did the BBC play it? Is it on their official website?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

a vinyl copy of the Dixie Narco ep

i remember buying that in HMV in blackpool the day it came out. there's a truly beautiful pedal-steel song on it. god damn, now you've made me want to hunt through 1,000-odd records to find it. must ... go ... to ... bed ...

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

XFM scotland played the single tonight (not for the first time); it is a truly awesome soundtrack to zooming round the big roundabout between the A77 and A78 ;)

it was briefly on iTunes tonight but disappeared. a hunt in the usual places should reveal some really piss-poor radio rips.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

it is a truly awesome soundtrack to zooming round the big roundabout between the A77 and A78

(not that i want anyone thinking i just drove round and round a roundabout listening to it. although, thinking about it, that would be kinda fun ...)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

and it's not the A78 ... it's the A71 ... MUST ... GO ... TO ... BED ... AND STOP FILLING ILM WITH SHIT ...

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

that MBV akrestra ... that was a connect holy fuck!

fandango (fandango), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a crappy cassette copy of the EP that's on the outs so that's right I am buying it on vinyl. How luddite am I.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

(Also: does anyone know what the fuck the original of the Dennis Wilson "Carry Me Home" was released on...? There's a cover on the Dixie Narco EP and I am a Beach Boys nut but damned if I've never even heard of this song. And I own a copy of Pacific Ocean Blue, it ain't on there).

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Also: does anyone know what the fuck the original of the Dennis Wilson "Carry Me Home" was released on...?

It was never released. It was supposed to be on the Holland album

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

You can get a poorly recorded version on a bootleg what I have, but can't remember the name thereof. Feature David Frost elsewhere.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link

it worked

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dave q (listerine), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link

the new album is pretty boring-stonesy-crap. sad after the heights of xtrmntr...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 07:52 (eighteen years ago) link

xtrmntr was six years ago!!!!

despite them being my fave band ever for some time, i have been fearful approaching their recent stuff. LOVE for 'dixie-narco' ep.

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I love that cover. He's just staring at me, going "IT'S ME YOU, LOVE, AND YOU KNOW IT!!! SINCE YOU WERE 15 BABY, COME AND GET IT!!!" but bad stoner rock is not the way to get my attention. Sigh.

Bernard's Summer Girlfriend (kate), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

(how much? I just ordered a vinyl copy of the Dixie Narco ep. that's how much) you daft sod you could have had my copy for nothing (if I could actually find it, that is)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah? well uh got any other stuff you wanna give away?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I too love me Dixie-Narco. I kinda rendered Give Out irrelevant.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

xtrmntr was six years ago!!!!

god i feel old suddenly ! xtrmntr is by far my favourite prml album (vanishing point is ok, screamadelica and devil whatever, a bit boring... give out and this latest one, are absolutely uninteresting).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

You guys are all on crack. This "Country Girl" song is awesome.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha awesome dave!

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Based on the photos from last month's appearance at the Isle Of Skye fest:

1. Kevin Shields is showing up again
2. Bobby cut his hair (when his hair gets shorter the albums get better)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/242/517585691_7395aa3b5c.jpg

Some things never change.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 04:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Bobby got introduced by Warren Ellis at ATP as "former Jesus and Mary Chain drummer Bobby Gillespie" - I'm sure he appreciated 20+ years of work being ignored :)

onimo, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

man, I didn't even recognise him! i though he was Ian McCullough when looking at the thumbnails.

Still a twat.

Shields looks good, he looks really good; he's lost a bit of weight recently. saw him a few months ago, he was doing sound for... uhhh, what is the name of that band. Rog's little brother's other band. this is really helpful I know.

ha ha, I agree with yr assessment of hairlenght to album quality, though - as usually it is indicative of drugs consumption.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Story at the end of this blog post needs more attention.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

no. no, it does not.

grimly fiendish, Friday, 23 November 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

"...All those fucking anoraks with their retarded girlfriends."

That's Boaby off Stephen Pastel's Christmas card list then

Tom D., Friday, 23 November 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

More Light = classic, IMO. I think if you must have one of their post-XTRMNTR albums, then make it that one - up there with their best stuff for me.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

yup

feel like it was slept on

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 August 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

Without a doubt, but there was a lot of great stuff out in 2013... still, the first two tracks on the LP alone are fantastic. Seriously, any lapsed Primals fans shout give it a spin.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 10 August 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

Er, shout=should.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 10 August 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

more light is great.

i rate vanishing point and XTRMNTR particularly - kill all hippies!!

Ross, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

album ends well too imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

man shoot speed kill light, i remember reading someone diss that on some thread and thought...what!!

Ross, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

https://www.nme.com/news/music/primal-scream-61-1278117

I'm not sure I've ever seen this picture or story before, which is obviously beyond classic.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Sunday, 19 August 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link

One of my Boab skits was inspired by that very photograph. God knows what thread is was on though.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 August 2018 11:55 (five years ago) link

I defer to your greater knowledge of Boaby.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Sunday, 19 August 2018 12:35 (five years ago) link

Somewhere in here maybe?: The Bobby Gillespie Bullshit game

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 August 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

No, not in there, they're scattered around all over the place, more or less whenever Bob or Primal Scream are mentioned - and sometimes without them even being mentioned.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 August 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link

Hahahahaha...

Primal Scream Announce Give Out But Don't Give Up: The Original Memphis Recordings

Following the recent discovery of these tracks in a box lurking in Andrew Innes’ basement, Primal Scream will release the original studio recordings from Memphis, the tracks that eventually became their 1994 album ‘Give Out But Don’t Give Up’.

Teaming up with iconic producer Tom Dowd and the Muscle Shoals rhythm section of David Hood and Roger Hawkins at Ardent Studios in Memphis, the resulting recordings from those sessions showcase a more country soul, rock’n’roll side to a band.

Dowd’s production, coupled with the merging of the slick rhythm section of the band, led to the creation of nine tracks that run the gamut between blues, gospel and brilliant songwriting, available for the first time.

“I felt we went down there with such good intent, but somehow we lost our way afterwards,” Bobby Gillespie admits. “There’s definitely a lesson to be learned about how creativity can go down the wrong track. We’re a band that constantly keeps moving and doesn’t look back, but, for years, I felt bad about us going to Memphis and not doing what we set out to do. Hearing these songs after all this time has made everything all right again. I feel redeemed.”

After their breakout album ‘Screamadelica’ (1991), Primal Scream relocated to Memphis in 1993 to record what would become ‘Give Out But Don’t Give Up’.

Once the band and Creation Records’ boss Alan McGee heard the recordings, however, they were both confused and underwhelmed. Their inner punks got the better of them and they brought producer George Drakoulias onboard to overhaul the recordings, with the band replacing, guitar, bass and drum parts over several sessions in the ensuing weeks until they were left with what became ‘Give Out But Don’t Give Up’.

CD1 – Tom Dowd album mix
Jailbird
Rocks
Call on Me
Everybody Needs Somebody
Sad and Blue
Big Jet Plane
Free
Jesus
(I’m Gonna) Cry Myself Blind

CD2 – Ardent Outtakes
Billy / To Love Somebody
Memphis Groove (Improvised Song Jam)
Sad And Blue (Early Rehearsal Jam)
Blue Moon Of Kentucky / Trying To Get To You
Big Jet Plane (Early Rehearsal Jam / Tom Dowd Instructions)
Free (Bobby Vocal / Full Band Rehearsal Jam)
Everybody Needs Somebody (Alternative Recording)
Country Guitar
Jailbird Guitar
Jesus (Monitor Mix )
Funky Jam (Original Recording)
Free (Early Rehearsal Sitar /Piano / Bobby Vocal)
Call On Me (Monitor Mix)
Cry Myself Blind (Monitor Mix)
All I Have To Do Is Dream

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 20 August 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

I would listen to this

Οὖτις, Monday, 20 August 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

So would I to see how it compares, but even though this album has some moments that aren't actually all that bad, I'm glad they got it out of their system in order to make Vanishing Point and XTRMNTR.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 20 August 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

yeah I'm into hearing this. But far as I can tell, Big Jet Plane, Sad & Blue, I'll Be There for You (left out above?), Everybody Needs Somebody - these are all Tom Dowd versions on the original anyway.

In other words, the good tracks on the original are the remixed ones.

everything, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link


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