"New Age Music", search and destroy.

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amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

amateurist, that Eluvium album that I mention on this thread is truly lovely if you ever see it anywhere.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.lemuria.net/images/timeline5.jpg

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 19 September 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Eluvium

ok, will keep an eye out.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Hmmmm:

http :// www.mgmusic. ltd .uk/default.asp

3,000,000 sales over the last 10yrs apparently. that's quite a lot! Who buys it? What's it like?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 26 November 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 20 May 2007 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Does Jarre count as New Age? I mean, his two first albums were obviously classic at least. And "Magnetic Fields", "Concerts In China", "Zoolook", "Rendez-Vous" and part two of "Oxygene" all have their moments too.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 20 May 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I taped a song off of the radio in 1991 from what I believe was a public radio station. I lost the tape a long time ago, but I keep hoping I'll find this piece of music again.

I'm not sure if it would be qualified as neo-classical or new age, but I'll try to describe it: Pianos. It had to have been multiple pianos. I believe there was also a harp, and possibly synth choir sounds down in the mix. Really fast playing, minor chord arpeggios, but gradual transitions between chord changes. It sounded like rain falling in notes. It was a powerful song, I suppose "uplifting" would be a good way to describe it. It was really blissed out, and very very full sounding. Nothing minimal about this song.

I can't expect anyone to name a song from that description, but does that sound like any artists you might know?

The closest I've heard to the overall sound is Enya and Yanni, but this was more mysterious and edgy than anything I've heard from Yanni, and Enya is unmistakable.

rockapads, Thursday, 19 July 2007 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link

that description's pretty vague but there's a good chance you were listening to an episode of "music from the hearts of space"

good luck:

http://www.hos.com/php/programsByYear.php?copyrightYear=1991

Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 July 2007 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks man. Yeah sorry about the description, but it's been like 10 years since I've heard it.

rockapads, Thursday, 19 July 2007 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

this is a long shot, but that is the year Ingram Marshall's Gradual Requiem came out and it does sort of fit that description and it's the kind of piece you'd remember for 15 years

http://www.amazon.com/Tropes-Gradual-Requiem-Ingram-Marshall/dp/B000000R26

Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 July 2007 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

On some old rym list I wrote that Structures From Silence automatically saves "new age" from being bargain-bin cheese.

And I still think so! Great record.

bassace, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Wizards has to be one of my favorite reissues of the year...

http://www.jdemmanuel.com/images/Wizards-800.JPG

http://www.jdemmanuel.com/images/Wizards-back-800.JPG

Has anyone heard anything else from J.D. Emmanuel?

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually I think they've been reissuing it in runs for a few years now, to be fair

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

This is a highly entertaining primer for anyone who wants to dip into the new age pool. http://www.polyholiday.com/podcast/

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

This is nice...

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/1818249.jpg

Particularly the Windsurf remix of Hot Beach

Treblekicker, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

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jaxon, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Bugger. Oh well, Interior - Interior (Windham Hill)

Treblekicker, Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Why is Wendy Carlos always filed under new age at the store? This has always puzzled me, though I'm sure it's helped me find records of hers that would have sold otherwise.

Her album "Beauty in the Beast" is so fucking underrated.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Why is Wendy Carlos always filed under new age at the store? This has always puzzled me

Sonic Seasonings = one of the earliest ambient records on a major label, not that her other stuff qualifies. in the 80's a lot of stores simply consolidated their 'electronic music' sections straight over into the suddenly lucrative 'new age' bins, you'd see Conrad Schnitzler or John Cage 'Variations IV' right next to Constance Demby or Don Slepian's 'Sonic Perfume'

Milton Parker, Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I need to re-read this thread, probably, but what about those Steven Halpern records that sound almost like the more meditative Return to Forever pieces? Some of those are pretty cool, if one has a weakness for Fender Rhodes indulgiencia.

One of the reasons that I like that Waxidermy website is b/c they address interesting examples of new age odds and ends that I imagine most people could give a toss about or would condemn in kneejerk fashion.

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

http://cdbaby.com/cd/donslepian

if you like Structures From Silence & Stearns' Planetary Unfolding, you definitely want Slepian's Sea of Bliss / Sonic Perfume. sometimes it's too light for me, but sometimes it's just perfect.

made on the Alles, the same synth Laurie Spiegel used for her 70's pieces

Milton Parker, Friday, 24 October 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i just got these on vinyl recently and i've been digging them:

steven halpern - zodiac suite (soundscape II)

steven halpern - spectrum suite (soundscape I)

scott seward, Friday, 24 October 2008 05:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, I have a nice gatefold copy of Sonic Seasonings with the poster. It's good... though I prefer her soundtrack work and the aforementioned Beauty in the Beast.

Also, love the Tangerine Dream (70s model), and Harold Budd. Some Vangelis and Tomita. I need to comb through here for more good ideas as I am WAY down with good New Age musics.

Nate Carson, Friday, 24 October 2008 05:55 (fifteen years ago) link

from that clusterfuck genre thread, my off the cuff new age recommends:

new age: lotsa Eno, early Deuter, Manuel Gottsching, Steve Roach, Gabrielle Roth, Robert Rich, O Yuki Conjugate, Liz Story, Harold Budd, Philip Perkins, Jon Hassell (especially Aka Darbari Java), maybe some Andrew Deutsch or Jliat if you wanna cross over into drone.

some of those may be debatable but I stand by it.

sleeve, Friday, 24 October 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

jon hassell has been suggested for at least three of these threads lately, and in each case it seems appropriate. really want to hear 'power spot' and ''aka darbari java'

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 06:47 (fifteen years ago) link

My favorite new age records:

Graham Lambkin - salmon ron
Rafael Toral - Violence of discovery...
Aphex Twin - stone in focus

what about spectral music, like the Grisey partiels and shit. There's a thread about spectral music?

Lowell N. Behold'n, Friday, 24 October 2008 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link

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Sure you can!

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s1818249.jpg

(click to enlarge)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 24 October 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i just got these on vinyl recently and i've been digging them:

steven halpern - zodiac suite (soundscape II)

steven halpern - spectrum suite (soundscape I)

Yeah, I remember Spectrum Suite being really great and having tracks devoted to balancing each chakra or some such.

I have this record by him called "Christening for Listening: A Soundtrack for Every Body" which includes these priceless liner notes:
...Christening for Listening is unique in that it is original music composed in a style suggested intuitively by the plants' own biorhythms, and is particularly sensitive and applicable to the needs of these serene green neighbors. Our recent research involving GSR polygraphs and Kirlian photography demonstrated that the most consistent, significant degree of postive affective response was found to relate to music that was in harmony with plants' slower tempo of movement." Put less scientifically, the plants dug this music-- and it showed up dramatically in the measurements.

It seems plants dance to the beat of a different drummer-- their own green beat as it were. They are able to respond to the fundamental element of music-- namely, tone-- without getting hung up in analytical interpretations. And in so doing, they participate in a viable "hear-and-now" musical gestalt...

del (dell), Friday, 24 October 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

what about spectral music, like the Grisey partiels and shit. There's a thread about spectral music?

there certainly should be -- there's these:
Gérard Grisey
Iancu dumitrscu and Ana Maria Avram: C/D, S/D

that's anything but new age though

Jon Hassell -- Classic Or Dud?
Steve Roach -- the endlessly meditative thread
Harold Budd - search and destroy

Milton Parker, Friday, 24 October 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

ok Iasos

Inter-Dimensional Music Through Iasos from 1975 is mostly flute-heavy drifty modal jazz, with a few 5 or 6 minute all electronic tracks that foreshadow real space music, but I just discovered the followup Angelic Music originally released on cassette in 1978, and I can understand his reputation now, this is distinct from most of the analog synth / space music of the 70's & looks forward to the good aspects of later New Age like Michael Stearns & Steve Roach. It follows on from side 2 of Vangelis' L'Apocalypse Des Animaux, but with two 30 minute long tracks that give you time to go a little deeper. This is exactly what I remember almost any given episode of Music From The Hearts of Space sounding like in the 80's -- back then I was on the fence about the whole genre but it's catching up to me now with a vengeance

http://iasos.com/detalist/angelic/

Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

it's funny sometimes how threads get bumped on ilx and it happens to coincide with what you wanna read about at that moment. I overdosed on tangerine dream just last night and surely some of theirs is new age.

and i heard this beautiful recording once of nothing but droning trombones taped in some underground catacombs and i forget the title and it's been bugging me for years.
― scott seward (scott seward), den 23 mars 2004 18:01 (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did you ever find out what it was? I badly want to hear this.

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

it was this, but i still haven't bought a copy. and apparently my memory is of hearing only trombones, but there are other instruments involved as well:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LB2kaFcKL._SS500_.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

(actually, looking at this amazon page now, there are solo and group trombone pieces on the dempster album. those are what i heard. though according to someone up top on this thread he made later trombone recordings in his giant cistern, so i can't be 100% positive. i always forget to look for his CDs.)

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

this also looks cool and i wanna hear it:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4182WVXD1PL._SS500_.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

that is _the_ Dempster album. He took ten students into the cistern with 45 seconds of natural acoustic reverb, and had them stand in a circle around the perimeter. then he stood in the center, and played slow notes holding his horn up into the center of the room. whenever he wanted a note sustained, he'd lower the horn until it was pointing at one of his students, and they'd pick up the note and hold it. it's an amazing piece of music.

same cistern as the first two Deep Listening records were recorded. I can't believe more people don't record there, though a more abstract bowed metal improv was done there recently by the group Doublends Vert -- if you like bowed metal albums, you want a copy of that album

xpost In The Great Abbey is just as good, but it's a solo record so it is a little less epic, more about details and contemplation

Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

& by 'that it _the_ Dempster album I was referring to Underground Overlays

Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

you could put the abbey record on the shelf next to:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Z3ER04RZL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

paul horn got inside a lot of stuff. i like his taj mahal record too. he should make a record inside my basement.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

haven't heard that one, always read about it. it's just echoey goodness w/ trumpet?

Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

flute. he would sneak his tape recorder into places like the taj mahal and the pyramid and play very lovely and droney flute. sounds amazing.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

now I remember seeing that album in the bins, when it had this cover: http://cdbaby.com/cd/paulhorn4

ok this is pretty spaced, this goes on the list

Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

he's definitely one of the pioneers of new age! you know? as well as a well-respected jazz dude. i've never heard the later stuff or his collabs with asian/world musicians. stuff like this:

http://store.canyonrecords.com/media/ccp0/prodsm/7020.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

such a hip dude. where is his hipster renaissance!?

http://www.dougpayne.com/horn.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't consider Dempster a "New Age" artist at all. His albums are all on New Music (that 80's term for minimalist influenced modern work by academic composers) labels, and all of his collaborators (Pauline Oliveros, Peter Ward, Ellen Fullman etc) all have similar backgrounds.

Speaking of Fullman (and trombones), Fluctuations her 2008 improv collaboration with trombonist Monique Buzzarte, deserved its place on the Wire Rewind main list. Available on emusic, and there's a good 10 minute sample of a piece here: http://www.rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=304

derelict, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

so Underground Overlays is a must-find then. Amazon says something about tibetan cymbals in the mix as well but I'm all up for that.

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

paul horn also produced one of the mellowest grooviest psychfolk records of all time:

http://www.geocities.com/asdfasedf2/ptarmigan.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

ok this is an off handed slow-day-at-the-office list of the forerunner New Age albums, the 70's ones released the decade before the genre name stuck...

Paul Horn - Inside The Taj Mahal
Henry Wolff & Nancy Hennings - Tibetan Bells
Vangelis - L'Apocalypse Des Animaux
Deuter - D / Aum
Popol Vuh - In Den Gärten Pharaos
Gail Laughton - Harps of the Ancient Temples
Eberhard Schoener - Meditation
Wendy Carlos - Sonic Seasonings
Tangerine Dream - Zeit
Eno - Discreet Music / Ambient 1
Peter Michael Hamel - Nada
Steve Hillage - Rainbow Dome Musick
Ash Ra Tempel - Inventions For Electric Guitar
Iasos - Angelic Music
David Hykes & The Harmonic Choir - Hearing Solar Winds
Kitaro - Silk Road (I still can't do this one myself)
Michael Stearns - Morning Jewel
Environments (especially #2 - Tintinnabulation & #7 - Intonation)

Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

"I don't consider Dempster a "New Age" artist at all."

i brought up the dempster stuff on this thread cuz they used to play him on the new age radio show i used to listen to years ago in philly. they would play all kinds of stuff. krautrock, philip glass, electronic stuff, as well as more standard fare. anything you could smoke to or commune with angels with.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i dig a bunch of those. the cool thing about new age stuff is that i can still find it all fairly cheaply. well, not ash ra tempel records, but most of the other stuff. and i have a bunch of groovy private press records that i will have to digitize someday. and tapes! i still find privately released electronic new age stuff at the thrift store. tons of crystal worship suites and the like.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link


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