Steve Roach -- the endlessly meditative thread

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*drifts for about two hours*

Anyway. So he's got about ten million albums, much like his friend and regular collaborator Vidna Obmana, New Age types first heard him back in the 1980s, goths found out about him when Projekt started releasing a ton of his stuff and he's probably doing a sleep concert of some sort right this second, which will be released later. And you can find out more here.

Crossing over a bit from the Stars of the Lid thread so to bring up some stuff there:

most of those 80's space music precedents are currently hiding in dusty new age sections, with lovably terrible packaging, or they're long out of print. makes me hope we're in for a resurgence in the same way that Cluster's Zuckerzeit & the Harmonia records showed up everywhere after Boards of Canada crossed over, it'd be cool to see things like (Michael) Stearns' Chronos reissued.

& when I say that Roach can be 'wearying' I'm mainly talking about keeping up with the number of releases -- when he hits the real longwave stuff, you don't ever want that sound to stop. the classic own-this-one-if-you-own-any-of-his-discs breakthrough Roach is The Magnificent Void, I'd have been fine with that as a 10 disc set -- that's a dark record, closer to MB or Lustmord than anything happier.

-- Milton Parker, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:05 PM (Yesterday)

Discuss as you'd like etc.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

This thread title made me think perhaps you made a typo and meant Steve Reich. But I guess not. So, I have nothing to add, except that thrilling anecdote. As you were.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

There's a ton of Steve Reich threads, so search and revive!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

steve roach can't be new age because his music sounds like sitting in a black hole for 3 hours

cutty, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 04:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

his artwork doesn't help though :/

cutty, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 04:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

my favorite is "mystic chords and sacred spaces"

http://www.steveroach.com/store/store.php?item=247

cutty, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 04:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

The new one, Immersion: Three, is kinda mindblowing even for him -- never heard something so dedicated to being furniture music, endless drift and as Cutty says black hole listening all at once.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 04:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

I also recommend the Mystic Chords 4CD, Roach in beatless ambient mode. Haven't heard the Vidna Obmana collaborations but I have two interesting ones:

In Trance Spirits (with Jeffrey Fayman, Robert Fripp and Momodou Kah) they add busy African drumming to the spacey soundscapes and the effect is great, smooth and droning.

Blood Machine (with Vir Unis) is also very good, computer beats they call "fractal" for some reason. Modern sound and kind of tribal, this actually sounds closer to Trance Spirits than any other Roach I've heard.

no-nonsense, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 07:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

I've hardly heard everything but

80's high point = Structures From Silence which is sort of everything that was good about new age -- if the digital synth textures sometimes seem a little simple, they really can be calming. I hated this stuff as a teenager in the 80's compared to trickier darker industrial or classic ambient or the more detailed textures of the Eno records, but this record's aged well. after his earlier sequencer-based albums that did a good job mining the post-Tangerine Dream lots, this was the transitional one where he turned off all the rhythms and went for duration, the last track is 30 minutes and I often just leave that one looping

then comes a whole host of tribal & slow rhythm records, aboriginal influences, peaked by Dreamtime Return which I remember not being my thing at all due to the melodies, flutes & indian percussion -- this was the soundtrack of a thousand head shops, crystal stores & california yoga retreats in the 80's, and a lot of other really frighteningly carefree scenes, and I skipped the next batch of followup albums. but I've been meaning to check it out again since Projekt reissued it.

then in 96 I was hanging out with Mr. Hate on his KFJC radio show and he segued out of a Zoviet-France track into something astoundingly deep, and my jaw dropped when he said it was Steve Roach -- that's Magnificent Void and it's a breakthrough record crossing over 70's/80's Hearts of Space & synth music with 80's ambient industrial, hugely influential and I keep coming back to it

he's very prolific and some albums sound samey, and some of the attempts to integrate the darkwave synths with the tribal rhythm stuff is not for me, but I picked up Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces when Cutty started dropping it on listening lists and it was a good call, he's clearly been slowly working on the sound & hasn't petered out -- many points for keeping it up going on 30 years later, even though if you like him, there were a lot of interesting records in this genre

would very much appreciate calls on some of the other records

the "sleep concerts" are more pioneered by / associated with Robert Rich in the early 80's than Steve Roach. Rich's albums tend to stay on the darker side and his Stalker with Lustmord is also a total classic & I'm curious to hear Somnium - http://www.starsend.org/Somnium.html

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 08:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

& if you like both Ligeti & Magnificent Void I recommend Roland Kayn

Roland Kayn

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 08:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

I have two of Roach's collaborations with Robert Rich -- Strata and Soma -- both of which I have come back to many times over the years. They aren't out in deep space like The Magnificent Void, but they repay attention and inattention equally well.

I also like Roach's Quiet Music, which makes a good hangover soundtrack.

I agree his music can be samey, but considering what he's doing, that may be one of the reasons it's effective.

Brad C., Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

i often wonder what he uses to make this music--would probably ruin it for me if i found out

cutty, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 18:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

i have this one:

http://www.steveroach.com/Music/discography.php?albumID=66

and used it for months as my sleep music, which it is perfect for (except the one track that has some tribal drumming). i think the liners say he used an e-bowed guitar for most of the sounds. i owned an e-bow at one point but never got it to sound like that. he's good at smearing the edge of sounds with reverb

am0n, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 19:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Structures From Silence is a total classic.

bassace, Thursday, 24 May 2007 02:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

revive! I don't own a lot of ambient music, but I've been listening to Tangerine Dream's Phaedra a lot lately and decided I need to rectify this situation. descriptions of Roach's music make it sound right up my alley, but I'm just wondering which of his eight million albums to start with. so far the frontrunners seem to be Structures From Silence, The Magnificent Void, and Mystic Chords (which, incidentally, boasts one of the most endearingly awful reviews I've ever read on AMG); anything else I should be considering?

bernard snowy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 15:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

Streams & Currents is the only Roach album ive been able to get into. sounds nothing like Phaedra though!

, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

Roach's shamanic rituals take listeners deeper into the zone. The psyche is lost in the realms of this bottomless pit, this cavern of the surreal. There are no impossible worlds on this journey. In the realms of nothingness, deep listeners see everything. In seeing everything, listeners gather knowledge. The ritual continues to begin and begins to continue.

lol

am0n, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

Thankfully not one of the reviews I've done of him. (I'm sure those are endearingly awful too.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

Anyway, Structures is a keeper, and I might suggest Early Man as well, plus any of the Immersion discs.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Streams & Currents is the only Roach album ive been able to get into. sounds nothing like Phaedra though!

-- ☪, Thursday, July 5, 2007 4:12 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link


yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that I was looking for a sonic similarity; just that that album was the catalyst for my sudden desire to hear some new-agey ambient stuff

bernard snowy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bernard, I've been into this stuff recently too (I'm loving TD's Phaedra, Ricochet, and Stratosfear right now) and have been meaning to pick up some Steve Roach. From what I hear, the ones you mention seem to be the most frequently recommended Roach albums.

On a different note, I don't know if you listen to much internet radio, but there are two stations that play a fair amount of Roach's music (along with similar stuff by Robert Rich, Vidna Obnama, Pete Namlook -- new agey but a little darker ambient stuff): Soma FM's the Drone Zone and the Detroit-based Paxahau. Both are accessible through iTunes radio listings (under the "ambient" tag, I think) or from their sites. Paxahau has some streaming problems occasionally and can get a little choppy, but they play some pretty cool stuff.

Also, I'm sure you're into Eno already but if not, an obvious pick is Ambient 4: On Land. It has some great stuff on it that fits in well with Roach's darker stuff.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

I actually don't own any Eno. I have some Harold Budd that I enjoy, so I was thinking of getting one of their collaborations as a good Eno starting point, but somehow I keep putting it off.

bernard snowy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

get The Plateaux of Mirror right now.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

music 4 airports > on land

am0n, Thursday, 5 July 2007 18:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

yes

strongohulkington, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

no

, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

I love Music for Airports, but I find On Land a lot more interesting. Maybe for a nice, calming ambient album MfA works better, but On Land has this uneasiness to it that I find pretty fascinating -- it's so wonderfully dark and eerie.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

i've given 'dreamtime return' a listen to tonight. i thought the first half of it was godly, then, i don't know. . . the second half just kind of went nowhere for me. i know i'll have to give this another listen or two, but if that's what i just got from this album right now, could anybody tell me if i should seek out anything else he's done? i mean, i really do enjoy this kind of shiftless new age-y ambience, but that did become a bit trying after a while. maybe it was my own fault for just sitting down and taking it all in at once?

andi, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 04:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

can be easy to overdose on this stuff, though enough of Roach's records are different to justify owning several (of the dozens)

it's always time to listen to tod dockstader's 'aerial 1' again, though it was composed decades after roach hit his stride, which is a big part of the reason I learned to <3 steve roach, time is on his side

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 07:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

get The Plateaux of Mirror right now.

and then get The Pearl

do not pass Go, do not collect $200

Edward Bax, Saturday, 6 October 2007 20:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Well what a coincidence - I've been listening to a lot of Steve Roach recently. I can't say I'd recommend any more than any other (that's helpful of me isn't it) but I will say you can really do some serious zoning out to it and that's fine by me.

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 6 October 2007 20:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

His latest on Projekt, Dynamic Stillness, has one of the darkest sounding beginnings I've heard from him yet. Pretty dramatic statement of purpose (and matched by the artwork, which like the music makes me think a bit of Thomas Köner's work, if more by association).

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 05:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Count me as a fan, primarily of Roach's 4th World ambient side. This album, in particular, is tremendously effective at evoking amelodic twilight rituals in the late Pleistocene, with much amanita muscaria:

Steve Roach - Origins (1993)

It's sorta lost amongst his mountain of releases and collaborations, but to me this is the album where he achieved exactly the production ambiance he was aiming at post-Dreamtime Return. About of a third of his albums since have been variations on its formula.

derelict, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 21:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

When I hear Roach's name, I always think of those terrible AMG writers who end every review with: "This is essential e-music."

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 22:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Ran across a box of old tapes I recorded off the radio from when I was in high school. Most of them were things like the Dr. Demento show, KLOS' "The Seventh Day" (seven albums in their entirety!), but I had a couple tapes of KSPC's electronic music show - one of shows featured most of Roach's album Traveller. Definitely wears its Klaus Schulze influence on its sleeve, but it's a tremendous album.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 12 December 2009 06:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

If it's the droney side of Roach you're looking for, check out Robert Rich, especially "Trances/Drones." I drift off to that nearly as often as Budd and/or Eno.

Also, Jeff Greinke's "Cities in Fog"--music inspired by late night walks in the industrial outskirts of Seattle and the drone of trucks on distant highways at 3 a.m.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 12 December 2009 07:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

I've listened to a good amount of Steve Roach and one I just got off emusic called "Life Sequence" from 2003 is one of the best. It is kind of a modern return to the rolling German 70s style of repetitive rolling sequencer music that Schulze and Tangerine Dream would do and Roach did earlier in his career except with modern production sounds.

It is really excellent.

earlnash, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 01:04 (six years ago) Permalink

absolutely the best music for driving around in southern california thinkin about your LIFE. for real. not bad for doing so in other states either but A+++ for doin this in california.

Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 01:08 (six years ago) Permalink

my favorite one for the last two years has been "Immersion: One" -- his first one where it's basically just an absolutely motionless pad, no chords changes, no events, nothing happens or changes for 73:16 -- I bought Two & Three as well, it's the same approach but I can't make it all the way through those, but One is a thing

I tried 'Dreamtime Return' again last year and it's still a little too glossy for me, when I try to sleep to it I get worn down instead of relaxed, it's almost like there's -too much- going on in it. still listening to Karma Moffett's 'Golden Bowls of Compassion' about every single day.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 03:07 (six years ago) Permalink

you know what needs a reissue? http://www.discogs.com/Geoffrey-Chandler-Starscapes/release/664130 -- recorded after hours at Orban in 1980

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 03:09 (six years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Structures from Silence impressed me when I was previewing it on iTunes. Actually, I'm a little pissed right now that so little of his stuff is on Spotify and MOG. I just wanna be like, "People, services like these are what your music is made for!"

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 May 2013 02:29 (three years ago) Permalink

you know what needs a reissue? http://www.discogs.com/Geoffrey-Chandler-Starscapes/release/664130 -- recorded after hours at Orban in 1980

That sounds amazing:
Recorded and mixed at Orban Recording, Menlo Park, California using a Moog synthesizer with extensive outboard processing equipment, including custom multiple-delay-line analog time-base process, custom voltage-controlled narrowband and wideband frequency shifters, parametric equalizer and reverberation. Mixed through the Orban Stereo Matrix, which creates stereo space and depth effects.

I bought Structures From Silence today on iTunes -- I'm a huge sucker for endlessly shifting analog pads. Sounds to me based on the articles I've read the last few weeks that the guy is an Oberheim Xpander ninja of sorts -- this record would seem to be evidence of that.

I've had a bit harder of a time digging into The Magnificent Void tho I definitely appreciate it for its...emptiness. This is one that actually is on Spotify so I'd like to give it a few more chances.

Another I've poked around on iTunes with is Empetus -- one of his more Berlin-ish sequencer outings from the mid-80s. The reissue has another CD of long sequencer tracks he did in 1982. Clips make it sound good -- presumably on his ARP 2600.

Apparently if you buy CDs from his site he'll apparently autograph them! Not sure that's enough to make me pile yet more CDs into my house -- but I'd still like to hear more.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:11 (three years ago) Permalink

A healthy approach.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:39 (three years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Cool piece on the 30th anniversary of Structures:

http://m.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/celebrating-the-silences/Content?oid=4074680

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 21:19 (two years ago) Permalink

Good piece, Ned.

Thoughts on the two other discs? Liner notes?

I admit that I haven't yet quite *gotten* Roach's immersive thing just yet – and that part of what I love about this record is that it has layers upon layers of what is, at the end of the day, a distinctively Oberheim sound.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 16:59 (two years ago) Permalink

The original edit mentions the extra two discs more -- also lovely but, I think enjoyably and appropriately, different from the original; he didn't try and recreate the sound but sought to explore the same themes from his point of view from where he more currently stands.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:08 (two years ago) Permalink

Been listening to my (older) Projekt re-release of Structures from Silence and wondering if it is worth ordering the deluxe edition or just snagged some other Roach back catalog stuff I've missed. I get enough shit for buying more than one Steve Roach album, imagine if they find out I'm buying the same one twice. Actually it won't surprise anyone at this point.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:08 (two years ago) Permalink

Part of me thinks, "Gee, I really love SfS, I wish he recorded more stuff like it" – which it course makes me think I should buy the set as well...

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 17 April 2014 01:46 (two years ago) Permalink

New tracks not really like SfS at all, instantly spotable as recent output.

I got a copy of 'Dynamic Stillness' last year at the Hearts of Space festival in San Rafael and it's solid recent Roach, same textures as the Immersions but with much more in the way of slow harmonic changes & melodies.

Been listening to a lot of Jorge Reyes recently and have just gotten around to the two Suspended Memories collaborations with Roach. Maybe a little less deep than Reyes on his own but still pretty great.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 17 April 2014 02:04 (two years ago) Permalink

Oh nice! I will keep an eye out for it.

Still think we need an ILM Desert Road Trip to see this guy...

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 3 March 2017 15:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

looking forward to your interview ned. amazing you were able to keep your composure. i would've been like "uh, so.... do you like voids *twirls phone cord around finger*"

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 March 2017 09:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Hahah. One of the easiest interviews I've ever done -- gave very long, thoughtful answers on some big questions about his work. And if I had more time I could have asked a lot more (really wanted to get into his collaborative process, since he's worked with so many people).

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 4 March 2017 15:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

shh i'm trying to keep up the illusion that when steve roach opens his mouth a pure and endless sound issues from it

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 March 2017 15:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

And having promised, here's my interview with the man. Easily one of my favorite pieces I've ever done.

http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2017/03/steve-roach-interview?linkId=35319969

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Nice interview! I was hoping he was a relaxed sort of guy.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 10 March 2017 18:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, no airs at all, just happily talking away.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i'm shuffling steve roach on spotify now, don't think this guy's ever released a genuine dud. i only have Structures From Silence and Quiet Music. The former is the original CD release...how's the remastered special edition?

i'm always tempted to buy more whenever I'm at Amoeba but his section takes up about 2% of the store, it's a little overwhelming.

nomar, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Hey that's one reason why the Bandcamp sites are handy, you can at least sample away. But I don't blame you for being overwhelmed! Both on this thread and in the article I mentioned a few faves so if I had to do a starter five beyond those two:

Dreamtime Return
Dynamic Stillness
Sigh of Ages
Immersion
Dust To Dust (with Roger King)

PLENTY of others but I think that gives a real sense of strengths.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

And having mentioned said sites:

http://steveroach.bandcamp.com/

https://projektrecords.bandcamp.com/

Plus plenty of sampling via his own site:

http://steveroach.com/store/

http://steveroach.com/store/store.php?query=timeroom&details=y

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

thanks! looks like i picked the wrong week to keep to my music budget.

somewhat curiously (to me at least) on his spotify page his most "popular" tracks are five tracks from The Magnificent Void.

nomar, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

only bc he's released however many albums and that's the one the listening public on spotify is gravitating towards.

nomar, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh and re: remastered Structures From Silence, I had this to say a while back:

http://www.wonderingsound.com/review/steve-roach-structures-silence-30th-anniversary-deluxe-remastered-edition/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Delicate Forever is my current favorite.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 10 March 2017 18:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

You can get really lost in visual with the screen tracking everything. Then I find that you start to stop listening or hearing in the same way when you take away that element and you just are working through the sound field, meditating, staring, focusing intently on the space between the speakers with no screen. That’s a powerful place.

Best interview with the man I have read. Kudos, Ned!

Wimmels, Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

And yes I was really taken by that section as he spoke it -- a very vivid way to describe the experience, with as much concrete detail as conceptual.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

cold, grim sequencer voyages through blackest space

I'm totally unfamiliar with this guy's work. Could you recommend a few titles that best fit this description/would sit comfortably alongside Zeit-era Tangerine Dream?

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 11 March 2017 21:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Magnificent Void is a keeper along those lines, referenced upthread a number of times. Dynamic Stillness is a personal fave of mine as mentioned.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

This would likely also suit, given that it's a Lustmord collaboration:

https://steveroach.com/Music/discography.php?albumID=348

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks! Darkest Before Dawn also seems like it might fit the bill.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

That's one I've not heard but the title alone makes me think almost certainly.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

great interview Ned

been hanging out a bit more often in Tuscon and Bisbee recently. this music sure makes a lot more sense after long road trips to Chiricahua and back.

Milton Parker, Saturday, 11 March 2017 23:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks indeed -- and yeah, his description of where he lives (didn't make the cut) was quite vivid.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 00:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Roach contains multitudes! Ned's piece made me curious about Dust To Dust, with Roger King. I own about 15 Steve Roach albums and I'd estimate that I've heard about double that number, but I've never heard him do anything like this, parts of which sound like what The Hired Hand soundtrack might have sounded like if it was released by Kranky in the 90s, or if Labradford had taken their ambient spaghetti western-isms to their logical conclusion. OK, some of it is that good, some of it isn't, but it's still a side of Roach I've never heard (harmonicas!) and I'm really enjoying it.

Wimmels, Sunday, 12 March 2017 00:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It's a treat, and holds a special place for me since it's the first thing I ever heard from Roach that I can recall. He told me himself that it was a bit of a unique one-off!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 00:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm hot and cold with Roach, with my favorite period being the 1998-1994 tribal ambient of Dreamtime Return, Origins, Artifacts and the collaborations with Robert Rich and Jorge Reyes (who got there first). However Dust to Dust is off his map, and I file it with Ry Cooder soundtracks, A Small Good Thing, Long Desert Cowboy, and similar artists, rather than Roach proper.

Sanpaku, Sunday, 12 March 2017 02:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Mystic Chords & Sacred Spaces weirdly not on the Bandcamp but I consider that one indispensible

though the tempest rages, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 12 March 2017 02:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah that one's my fav

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

That's one of the ones over on Projekt's site:

https://projektrecords.bandcamp.com/album/mystic-chords-sacred-spaces-complete-edition

And agreed, it's stellar.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 06:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Holy crap, I hadn't run across Dust To Dust before!

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 12 March 2017 07:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Ha, really? Yeah if any album is absolutely you, it's that one.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 14:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Currently enjoying Dust to Dust very much. Great interview, too.

I want a recommendation engine for 'wide open desert' music - stuff like Dust to Dust, the Hired Hand soundtrack, any Scott Tuma, Eyvind Kang's Live Low to the Ground...

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Thank ya!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:51 (one week ago) Permalink

I want a recommendation engine for 'wide open desert' music - stuff like Dust to Dust, the Hired Hand soundtrack, any Scott Tuma, Eyvind Kang's Live Low to the Ground...

― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, March 18, 2017 3:39 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Those last three are the biggies, imo, assuming you probably already know the Paris, Texas soundtrack. Do you know a band called Padang Food Tigers? They definitely hit on this vibe quite a bit, despite being about as far from the desert landscape as you can get (UK, iirc). Also, there are a lot of people working this angle from a dronier / noisier angle, like pedal steel guitarist Chas Smith (not to be confused with drummer Ches Smith), William Fowler Collins, and probably a few others.

There are probably people who can direct you to the "right" Calexico records, too (there are instrumental albums that definitely touch on this style) but I'm not really well-versed enough to say

Wimmels, Saturday, 18 March 2017 20:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Yes - love the Food Tigers! And, aye, definitely uk based. Paris, Texas is all-time. I'd forgotten Chas Smith. Santa Fe is a hell of a thing. Will check William Fowler Collins, for sure. Cheers.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 18 March 2017 20:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Calexico pals Friends of Dean Martinez, their discography is all wide open sounds, the album "Atardecer" is my personal favorite.

nomar, Saturday, 18 March 2017 20:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Try Marco beltrami's film score for tommy lee jones' The Homesman. Actually his other scores for Jones kind of fit too.

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 18 March 2017 20:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Seconding William Fowler Collins. Great live, too.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 March 2017 21:23 (one week ago) Permalink

I want a recommendation engine for 'wide open desert' music

See also:

Susan Alcorn - And i await the Resurrection (maybe not her best, but its what I have)
Barn Owl - any
Ry Cooder - Paris, Texas of course, also look for Trespass, Last Man Standing OSTs
Dead Texan - eponymous debut
Bruce Kaphan - Slider: Ambient Excursions for Pedal Steel Guitar
Long Desert Cowboy - any
Rainer (Ptacek) - Nocturnes

Sanpaku, Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:14 (one week ago) Permalink

if Live Low To The Earth In The Iron Age is part of this genre, I'm starting a thread

sleeve, Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:19 (one week ago) Permalink

"wide open desert music" S/D

sleeve, Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Light Fantastic is one of my favorites by Steve Roach. That one has sections of meditations but then breaks into the big trancy Berlin like sequences.

earlnash, Sunday, 19 March 2017 06:32 (one week ago) Permalink

regarding Mystic Chords, is it important for me to get the 3CD 'complete version' or am I fine with the still huge but less so editions? I have some emusic credits to burn.

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:06 (yesterday) Permalink

I personally think the more Roach the better but some is better than none. And I can't remember if the complete edition has extra tracks or not on top of the original releases.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:24 (yesterday) Permalink

i recently learned that roach did a record with michael shrieve in 1988, the leaving time. it is on youtube and is just as fucking awesome as one might hope. transfer station blue vibes.

adam, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:32 (yesterday) Permalink

>regarding Mystic Chords, is it important for me to get the 3CD 'complete version' or am I fine with the still huge but less so editions? I have some emusic credits to burn.

I thought Mystic Chords was 4 CDs. At any rate, if you're at all interested, you're gonna want all of it eventually.

J. Sam, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:42 (yesterday) Permalink

oh wait, haha... I have 17.00 emusic credits left this month and the mystic chords 4CD is 17.20 so maybe next month.

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:32 (yesterday) Permalink

Mystic Chords is two 2-CD sets. The box set is literally just an outer box that holds both the sets. No extra tracks. I like discs 2 and 4 the best... Labyrinth and Piece of Infinity.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:32 (yesterday) Permalink

I wish he'd release a box set of the Immersion discs! Those are great if you favor the meditative/drone stuff. But I guess it would be, what... an 8-disc set?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:35 (yesterday) Permalink


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