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idk for me there's a temptation to be nostalgic for the "good old days", i think it's nice to have occasional reminders of what it was actually like. i definitely can see how it wouldn't be for everyone, though.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 29 April 2024 18:44 (two weeks ago) link

It should be easier to change the title of an old thread if the discussion contained within takes an especially sharp swerve.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 29 April 2024 18:53 (two weeks ago) link

But then the posts at the beginning of the thread become decontextualised (and sometimes nonsensical). I'm fine with adding on to a title where appropriate and will try to do so in a way that indicates it's a later change, but I don't like swapping out thread titles in general. I must maintain the purity of the archives!

emil.y, Monday, 29 April 2024 19:02 (two weeks ago) link

otm!

Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Monday, 29 April 2024 19:08 (two weeks ago) link

otm

z_tbd, Monday, 29 April 2024 19:11 (two weeks ago) link

This is my favorite thread title change from my modding days: Which animal would you use to crush Scrappy Doo?

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Monday, 29 April 2024 19:19 (two weeks ago) link

NOTE: there is a bunch of regressive humor on that thread (shocking I know)

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Monday, 29 April 2024 19:19 (two weeks ago) link

My fave: amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

(The second name originally being Robert Smith, and IIRC I added the paranthetical.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 April 2024 19:22 (two weeks ago) link

Modding for the lols is a different beast entirely - I heartily approve but would be much too scared to do it myself.

emil.y, Monday, 29 April 2024 19:24 (two weeks ago) link

#onethread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5kL_PaqaPQ

scott seward, Monday, 29 April 2024 20:20 (two weeks ago) link

If there's already a thread that covers the exact topic you want to talk about, post in that thread. Example: [band name] C/D threads.

If there's a thread on a topic that organically expands to include related topics, either post to that thread or start a new one. Example: University Challenge thread, which became the general UK quiz show thread over time but could easily have been split off into multiple threads.

If there's a thread about a specific topic and you want to talk about something loosely related to it but not really, start a new thread! Example: that Annihilation thread - if it was an Alex Garland thread then that'd be fine, but honestly, why NOT start a new thread for a completely different film?


Think I broadly agree but the problem with very long and very old threads is the difficulty in seeing what’s been said before if you weren’t around for the original conversation, plus also the slapdown factor of “this conversation has already been had”. But then being a post-2010 joiner I’ve already missed so much and I have no reverence for old threads or stuff that happened that far back, so that’s my bias.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 29 April 2024 21:29 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, the site is so old now that I have no issue if someone wants to make a new thread instead of reviving a 10+ year old one, though if they do then I usually like it if people include a link to past threads - not to slap down new discussion or to suggest it's all been done before, but to provide access to historical records and potentially interesting angles on the topic (okay, and sometimes also edgelordism and infighting). I guess I do see ilx as a sort of grand archive in a way? But I don't want it to be a static one, and any approach to threadstarting/reviving that encourages conversation to thrive is good in my book.

emil.y, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:16 (two weeks ago) link

oh gosh years ago i'm afraid i used to be such a karen when people started threads and there were already a million just like it. i would put all the links to, like, 10 threads in a row as a first post to their thread. but to be fair people did it a lot and you know they never searched first. this was a zillion years ago.

scott seward, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:59 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah it used to annoy me when a thread was posted on a topic already and I used to say. But overtime there is usually one thread that gets picked as the thread on said topic, and that's what I will revive.

Guess I see it as an ongoing conversation even if lots of past contributors have left.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2024 23:06 (two weeks ago) link

I guess I do see ilx as a sort of grand archive in a way? But I don't want it to be a static one, and any approach to threadstarting/reviving that encourages conversation to thrive is good in my book.

― emil.y

the thing i do like about ilx is that it _is_ a living archive, anybody can go back and add to some old conversation even if it was 20 years ago. that, um... that motherfucker american politician who died a couple months ago long after i'd forgotten about him and we all got to bump the thread and celebrate. to me, that's the value of a "grand archive". the internet isn't a place that has a sense of its own, like, _living_ past. when i first got on the internet it was usenet and that shit is _gone_, all you can do with is binaries. it's impossible to understand usenet the way it was back then because of the lack of context.

and yeah that's by design, usenet was designed to be ephemeral, so i guess it's fine that all of that shit is inaccessible. it _could be_, though, if anyone cared enough.

as long as this place is around... this is as old as the internet gets for me. one of the last public, living vestiges of the pre-public internet. and it's not a long time. it's not even, like, 25 years, is it? idk. things have changed a lot in the past 25 years. i can go back, if i wanted to, and see the posts i made back pre-transition, when i was an extremely cringe shitlib. maybe five years from now i can come back and cringe at the stuff i'm saying now. i think that's cool. present me loves past me. i hope future me loves me as much as i love past me. warts and all.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 02:01 (two weeks ago) link

it's good that people have to confront their views from 20 years ago

no it isn't!!

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 02:05 (two weeks ago) link

i somehow crashlanded the other day into a long 2005 exchange between like, xxxxx and i dunno, xxxxxxxxxx or somebody that could never, ever happen now and i was practically like, crying crying and laughing crying, and nyc shoulda been crying because it was brutal.

sorry ot

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 02:52 (two weeks ago) link

I agree with crut in that none of us should’ve posted in the first place and also none of us should be posting now, all posts are misguided

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 04:19 (two weeks ago) link

There needs to be a yearly "otm" quota you have to hit to keep your posting privileges. Gotta hit .100 on otm's to keep things going.

H.P, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 04:25 (two weeks ago) link

I think I'm batting .00001. Crazy they're still keeping me on the roster

H.P, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 04:26 (two weeks ago) link

omg i’m damned, then

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 05:17 (two weeks ago) link

otm

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 06:22 (two weeks ago) link

I'm slack-post tolerant and frequently off the milk

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 07:20 (two weeks ago) link

New lyrics for "Search and Destroy"

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 07:56 (two weeks ago) link

Lol

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 09:34 (two weeks ago) link

I guess I do see ilx as a sort of grand archive in a way?

It happens so often that I learn about something new and instantly do an ILX search to see if it's been discussed. Do that almost as much as following the current forum tbh.

I don't know about the semantics of "confronted with" but I do tend to think of old ILX as being less regressive than it often was and that's useful to me personally, not as an excuse for self flagellation or flagellation of others but as a reminder that it's very easy to take your progressivism for granted.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 10:03 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah I think it's fascinating to see self-censorship at work. Not that I don't think we have effectively progressed on a number of issues and that some old posts weren't preposterous. But to see it as a social phenomenon is humbling - I would not dare to judge too harshly ILX posts from 20 years ago, knowing that the confrontation is ongoing, and our own era is not short of pre/misconceptions.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 10:39 (two weeks ago) link

tbc I don't think the change in tone here is due to "self-censorship" so much as people growing and realising that some shit is hurtful and unfunny

no doubt we'll have regrets about our current posts in 20 years too sure

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 10:44 (two weeks ago) link

Nabozo
Posted: 30 April 2024 at 11:39:09
Yeah I think it's fascinating to see self-censorship at work.Not that I don't think we have effectively progressed on a number of issues and that some old posts weren't preposterous. But to see it as a social phenomenon is humbling - I would not dare to judge too harshly ILX posts from 20 years ago, knowing that the confrontation is ongoing, and our own era is not short of pre/misconceptions.


a) lol. “Self-censorship” is such a whiny way of saying “Not saying whatever shit pops up into your head”.
b) there’s often people in posts from twenty years ago saying whatever comment is fucked up. Pretty sure most of us knew what racism and homophobia were in 2004.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 10:49 (two weeks ago) link

"people growing and realising that some shit is hurtful and unfunny"

Average age of people on ilx was probably 25. Probably 35 now?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 10:58 (two weeks ago) link

lol I think the recent poll put it more at like 50?

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:00 (two weeks ago) link

but yeah there were a lot of younger posters then that I don't think are around anymore

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:01 (two weeks ago) link

I meant it in a more neutral way: what you feel is socially / publicly acceptable to say. I assume most people find a way to say what they mean, but it's interesting to see how - that's where it's telling about society.
Of course it's dynamic. "Most of us" is the crux of the matter isn't it, if you speak of shifts.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:02 (two weeks ago) link

Lol @ 50.

We definitely have not replaced people. This is how ilx finally dies

xp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:03 (two weeks ago) link

Average age is definitely not 35!

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:08 (two weeks ago) link

How old were you as of April 3, 2024?

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:10 (two weeks ago) link

Xyzzz makes a good point: I, a solitary younger poster, am the lifeblood and future of this website and as such I demand to be taken seriously!

H.P, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:27 (two weeks ago) link

It actually is a little crazy there are only 3 people under 30 who voted in that poll. The elders of this site need to get in contact with the Catholic Church and share ideas on how to draw a younger crowd to their old and dying congregations. I'm crumbling under the weight of responsibility here guys

H.P, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:34 (two weeks ago) link

ILX has the same problem Biden does exciting younger voters.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:43 (two weeks ago) link

"average ilxor 53" factoid actualy (sic) just statistical error. average ilxor well under 30. spiders mark s, who lives in cave & is over 10,000 years old, is an outlier adn (sic) should not have been counted

mark s, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:44 (two weeks ago) link

i bleve that HP is the future/teach’m well and let’m lead the way/show’m all the beauty he got inside/give’m a sense of pride to make it easier/let HP’s laughter help us forget how we used to be

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:10 (two weeks ago) link

I have been posting on and off here since I was 21, and I will be turning 40 this fall.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:21 (two weeks ago) link

average ilxor is 53 inches

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:29 (two weeks ago) link

Round the waist?

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:40 (two weeks ago) link

Round the thigh

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:41 (two weeks ago) link

*gets sprung*

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:41 (two weeks ago) link

Round the -- well.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:41 (two weeks ago) link

thilxor.com

rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:42 (two weeks ago) link

lol Alfred

rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:42 (two weeks ago) link

63 age, 34 waist.

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:59 (two weeks ago) link


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