http://blog.amandapalmer.net/post/227061643/dear-robert-smith-an-open-letter
I've done this a few times myself and it always spins the ol' head around.Generally quite nicely put.
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
Will have to give that a closer reread but that beyond rules.
But Dan's going to hate what she's going nuts for in the final photo.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahahahaha I did get to the end and go "OH COME THE FUCK ON"
but yeah, that pretty much exactly encapsulates why I still listen to The Cure (and why, in general, I think making fun of anyone for liking a "past-their-prime" band is the hallmark of an irredeemable dick)
― ADVANCED CHORD CHANGES (HI DERE), Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Interesting.
Getting backstage at The Cure show at the Greek in Berkeley in '87 (I think) was the highlight of my life at the time.
― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
Seriously LOLing for real here.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
"Amanda Palmer performs the popular hits of Radiohead on her magical ukelele" EP out tomorrow:
http://music.amandapalmer.net/album/amanda-palmer-performs-the-popular-hits-of-radiohead-on-her-magical-ukulele
― StanM, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:37 (ten years ago) link
fuck that
it seems like the only thing that poor instrument is used for anymore is for shitty covers
― Anticipating The Nation - High Islam (LOLK), Monday, 19 July 2010 20:10 (ten years ago) link
extra 'for' in that last one
― Anticipating The Nation - High Islam (LOLK), Monday, 19 July 2010 20:11 (ten years ago) link
fake plastic covers
― crispy hexagon sun (crüt), Monday, 19 July 2010 20:12 (ten years ago) link
I've spent quality time with Amanda. Never seen the Cure though. I would like to.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 19 July 2010 23:34 (ten years ago) link
Always hated this woman, her music, her shitty graphic design & her terrible personal brand.
― the food has a top snake of 1 (ulillillia), Monday, 19 July 2010 23:44 (ten years ago) link
Jeez.
Anyway...
I never ever had this close a connection to any rock star, father figure, or (day I see it) hero type as so many people have done. To the extent that I wanted to follow them or be them (beyond the thought that I'd like that job yeah, sure)...
Even to the extent that I don't even have a default understanding of the mindset beyond appreciating how someone else might feel in the situation.
Anyway, nice letter, it's good to be happy.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 00:00 (ten years ago) link
my extreme distate for dresden dolls, that letter, her wordiness, etc, put me off listening to 'who killed amanda palmer' until now but I really like it, it's a good record.
― akm, Saturday, 29 October 2011 06:03 (nine years ago) link
She may not get a lot of ILM love, but getting crowdfunded to the tune of $1m is still something worthy of note, I would say.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/amandapalmer/amanda-palmer-the-new-record-art-book-and-tour/posts/232020
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 27 August 2012 22:29 (eight years ago) link
also recently filled in for erykah badu as bathtub fodder
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 05:14 (eight years ago) link
25,000 people pledged an average of $50... how
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:06 (eight years ago) link
I was sitting next to the writer Neil Gaiman in a pizzeria today, and he was with this lady with tattooed eyebrows and a bunch of Bard kids who appeared to be shlepping them around.
Tonight I learned that she's Amanda Palmer, and they're married. Also that Gaiman is some kind of Upper Poobah Lightning Level Scientologist (son of former U.K. Scientology boss and Vitamin mogul David Gaiman), and that many suspect the $1 million was just poured in through Sea.Org (fancy Scientology people) as part of a pretty sneaky publicity stunt....
― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 2 September 2012 03:07 (eight years ago) link
and now I guess I should be drawing the blinds or changing my display name or something
― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 2 September 2012 03:08 (eight years ago) link
Also that Gaiman is some kind of Upper Poobah Lightning Level Scientologist
this is not true, although his family are still. (he was actually listed as supressive for a long time iirc). and anyone who needs to make up conspiracy theories abt Palmer's fanbase and social media aptitude has prob not read anything about her, or spoken to anyone who likes her, in the last five years.
― itt: i forgot that he yells at a butt (sic), Sunday, 2 September 2012 03:19 (eight years ago) link
What's a suppressive?
― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 2 September 2012 03:25 (eight years ago) link
WTF Church of Scientology is in my iPhone! Just resumed scrabble game and "Hard" robot played ENGRAM(!)
― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 2 September 2012 03:27 (eight years ago) link
^true
― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 2 September 2012 03:28 (eight years ago) link
Wait hold on
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/rockers-playing-for-beer-fair-play/?hp
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:03 (eight years ago) link
um
isn't that the entire point of funding your enterprise via Kickstarter, so that you can raise enough money for the things you want
on the flip side, this appears to be a "hey fan musicians, I invite you to play with me for a night on stage" thing and, as such, should be looked upon as a giveaway for amateur musicians rather than a solicitation for professionals
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:07 (eight years ago) link
hahah goddamn musicians union folks are weird. DJP otm.
― with the ghostly "YOOOOOOOOOOOOHHOOOO" vocals? (crüt), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:48 (eight years ago) link
oh don't get me wrong, if she was doing this to drum up her core band she would deserve every bit of invective and more
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:49 (eight years ago) link
What's the distinction your drawing there, though? "one gig vs a tour" or "horns & strings vs guitar/drums" or "a few songs vs the whole show"?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:01 (eight years ago) link
*you're
If she's doing a "let me bring out enthusiastic fans at each show to do a song or two" thing, then who cares
If she's doing a "let me fill out my band for the majority of my set with people I don't have to actually pay" thing, she should fuck off
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:18 (eight years ago) link
i had never paid any attention to this person until this musician thing, which is shitty. but even shitter, she apparently was dating (pre-gaiman) someone who was a recovered drug addict and relapsed, and she faked a suicide attempt to show him how hurt she was by it, and recorded his reaction to finding her and thinking she had killed herself, and used it on an album. he later committed suicide. how is this person real?! that is stomach turning.
― john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:26 (eight years ago) link
holy shit, is that for real
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:33 (eight years ago) link
http://youtu.be/h57XWrFNGs8
5:10
this woman, holy shit
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:39 (eight years ago) link
I hated this woman anyway for being a total shit to my friends when they were doing Weill cabaret, this is next level
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:41 (eight years ago) link
ennh, she was 18 and the "gf fakes a suicide" -> "he commits suicide" connection doesn't ring true for me. It is so fucked up that she'd put that recording on an album, though, oh my god.
― would smash pumpkins (Ówen P.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:58 (eight years ago) link
and christ, pay your musicians. Amateur vs. professional who the fuck cares. More like "I am blessed with a worshipful fanbase now let me exploit you for cheap labour"
― would smash pumpkins (Ówen P.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:59 (eight years ago) link
haha Owen I think we're pretty much on the same page here with minor deviations
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:01 (eight years ago) link
like... always?
― would smash pumpkins (Ówen P.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:05 (eight years ago) link
he said here.
― Mark G, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:10 (eight years ago) link
ennh, she was 18 and the "gf fakes a suicide" -> "he commits suicide" connection doesn't ring true for me. It is so fucked up that she'd put that recording on an album, though, oh my god
yeah i wasn't making the connection that he committed suicide because of her, it was more of an aside. but faking suicide is horribly abusive behavior, and using the recording on an album implies she has no remorse about it.
― john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:22 (eight years ago) link
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:18 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, this is OTM. I think if one of my favourite bands put out a call for people to show up and play either a track they already know or jam out some psych a la Suzuki's Network, I'd jump at it and not expect payment. However, if it was "please learn my entire set, be present at a rehearsal, play for the entire show or at least when and where I expect you to" then I would find that a very different proposition indeed.
― emil.y, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:23 (eight years ago) link
The string/horn sections she pulled together for the immediate post-Kickstarter mini-tour thing were all fans who opted in. They were asked to learn two songs I think, and turn up in time to soundcheck - and they looked like the happiest damn fans on earth onstage (as well as actually being really good).
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:26 (eight years ago) link
She's also ableist. I think she's an asshole.
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:36 (eight years ago) link
You guys don't understand, she's an artist. You can't be an artist and an asshole at the same time, they're like matter / anti-matter.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:37 (eight years ago) link
(If I listen carefully, I can probably hear DJP's reaction to that from across the Atlantic)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:40 (eight years ago) link
I think a lot of the greatest artists have been complete and total assholes, and she's certainly living up to that. But women get given a harder time for ~not being nice~ and the level of assholehood required to be a ~great~ artist, so I try to cut female rock stars some slack on that count, i.e. The Courtney Love Clause.
The problem is, I've never heard any work of Amanda Palmer's that actually inspired me or blew me away in the way that I require ~great art~ to do. Which may well be my failure to appreciate it. So it's complicated.
― Atomow dhe Kres? MY A VYNN, mar pleg! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:43 (eight years ago) link
Oy oy oy, that Evelyn Evelyn thing. I would have no problem if it was a Victoriana/Steampunk concept album about conjoined twins, really, but... positioning them in the contemporary world? Pretending that you rescued them? Giving *quite* such a distressing backstory to the record? DRESSING as them?
― emil.y, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:44 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, that thing Nicole posted, that was the thing that really just crystalised a lot of the floating discomfort I'd been experiencing about her and her schtick. But, like I said, it's complicated.
― Atomow dhe Kres? MY A VYNN, mar pleg! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:50 (eight years ago) link
but faking suicide is horribly abusive behavior, and using the recording on an album implies she has no remorse about it.
I've not knowingly heard an amanda palmer record but she reminds me so so so strongly of girls i used to know -- there can be this sense that making art around something shitty that you did is a way of working through it, the experience and your own behaviour? I mean, to me it is a terrible thing to have used that recording on an album that you release and get money for, but I can sense the edges of the logic that leads to it. Also i do not think her behaviour can be held responsible for his later suicide.
Like WCC says, it's complicated - because there've been these girls I knew who would have been so happy to grow up into Amanda Palmer, the very phenomenon of her existence is dear to me -- even when she does stuff like the Evelyn Evelyn project, which was frankly repulsive.
― v for viennetta (c sharp major), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:55 (eight years ago) link
I think I'm probably misreading you, WCC - your first paragraph seems to suggest that there's a minimum level of assholehood required to be a great artists? But your second suggests that if she was a great artist, she'd get a reduction in effective assholehood?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:59 (eight years ago) link
in short, Great artists tend to be assholes, but assholes do not tend to be great artists.
― Mark G, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:05 (eight years ago) link
This is it, the platonic ideal of an Amanda Palmer tweet
just walked into a coffeeshop here in aotearoa new zealand and everybody behind the counter, not really knowing me but knowing i was american, erupted in spontaneous applause 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭— Amanda Palmer 🎹 (@amandapalmer) January 20, 2021
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:00 (one month ago) link
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolollllll
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:01 (one month ago) link
haha suckit NZ lmaosorry
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:10 (one month ago) link
not sorry
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:13 (one month ago) link
she's so good at being amanda palmer, you gotta hand it to her
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:15 (one month ago) link
aaaaaaaaaaaa she did a ukulele improv when she woke up (having missed the inauguration live cuz new zealand) and i'm dying and my wife is yelling at me to put on headphones, this is everything i needed to process today thank you amanda palmer :..)
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:18 (one month ago) link
Not since Jacob Wohl.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:19 (one month ago) link
Amanda Palmer is like a crash test dummy at the rake factory or sthing
― Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:20 (one month ago) link
it's all too much
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:21 (one month ago) link
Neil's backhttps://journal.neilgaiman.com/2021/01/reunited-and-it-feels-so-good.html
― up-the-arts corner (Matt #2), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:25 (one month ago) link
How exactly did it take "a lot of work" for you to see your kid again nine months after you voluntarily left him, Neil?
― Lily Dale, Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:05 (one month ago) link
(or her/them, as the case may be - I just realized I don't actually know what gender Neil Gaiman's kid is)
― Lily Dale, Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:08 (one month ago) link
He spent months applying for, and being refused, compassionate visas.
― shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:17 (one month ago) link
The compassionate thing would be to take the kid away from these two narcissists.
― Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:47 (one month ago) link
I imagine the evaluation process was like "soooo, what was the reason you were separated in the first place?" "I broke a bunch of quarantine laws to get away from my partner and kid" and then raised eyebrows, appeal denied. But on this occasion the reviewer asked who the partner was.
― assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:54 (one month ago) link
I'm so proud of her
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:34 (one month ago) link
Everytime I've walked into a coffeeshop there in aotearoa new zealand, the guy behind the counter has asked me "what can I get you, boss?"
― Pre-Raphaelite Brah (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 21 January 2021 09:03 (one month ago) link
I just a left a hipster coffee shop. It was packed with Kiwis, whispering amongst each other about what a commendable job President Biden did with his speech at the Inauguration
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 21 January 2021 09:34 (one month ago) link
oh no
well, this tweet also spawned the first time i’ve ever seen “yankee go home” in my feed from a kiwi, so clearly, yes, some people here hate americans. good to know, thanks guys. takeaway = stick to the coffeeshops, where the people seem to be consistently kind ♥️☕️🙏🏼— Amanda Palmer 🎹 (@amandapalmer) January 21, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 09:58 (one month ago) link
have to agree with my Kiwi friend there
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:14 (one month ago) link
They managed to keep out corona but got stuck with Amanda Palmer. Thoughts & prayers for New Zealand in these trying times
― Yelp for gyros (wins), Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:28 (one month ago) link
How much should you tip when your server applauds you for your nationality?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:25 (one month ago) link
if there were any justice the tips would be going to Amanda
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:32 (one month ago) link
I fee like we have over looked an important detail:
just walked into a coffeeshop here in aotearoa new zealand and everybody behind the counter
So two people
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:32 (one month ago) link
lol that's the best bit
― kinder, Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:39 (one month ago) link
TS: Living Through Pandemic for One Year or Living with Amanda Palmer for One Year
― Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:47 (one month ago) link
It also stretches belief that she had not told those people who she was
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:48 (one month ago) link
I've seen it pointed out that it just being the staff makes it more likely - "maybe this will get her to tip with money rather than hugs"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:50 (one month ago) link
first prize for loud clapping is getting to sing a track on the new amanda palmer album
second prize is singing on two tracks
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:56 (one month ago) link
― Yelp for gyros (wins), Thursday, January 21, 2021 5:28 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
there seems to be sufficient evidence that the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 is avoiding amanda palmer
― ✖, Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:05 (one month ago) link
come on - i simply cant imagine that amanda palmer could find a way to bring up the election and talk about herself while placing her coffee order. nope, simply not possible. it was "spontaneous".
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:26 (one month ago) link
How many people were behind this coffee counter exactly? I'd say you need 20-25 people applauding pretty bloody hard for it to count as an eruption. Anything else is a light round or a golf clap.
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:32 (one month ago) link
i see we have covered this
Okay so clearly this was a flashmob
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:33 (one month ago) link
The slow hand clap means something different in the US, right?
― kinder, Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:41 (one month ago) link
I wanted to go to New Zealand but they told me I'd have to stay in my hotel room for two weeks until they could be sure I wasn't Amanda Palmer
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:16 (one month ago) link
It also stretches belief that she had not told those people who she was― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:48
I like to picture an unpaid intern preceding her to hand out "you have met me" cards, like Steve Martin did.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:29 (one month ago) link
"And I said to myself: this is fair."
― jmm, Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:31 (one month ago) link
takeaway = stick to the coffeeshops, where the people seem to be consistently kind ♥️☕️🙏🏼
I checked but somehow she has continued tweeting after this?
tbf I assume that after ten months in an airbnb in a town of 60,000, staff at a place she goes to regularly "not knowing who she is but knowing the loud lady with a loud American accent and fake eyebrows is American" is probably as common as she says
― shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:46 (one month ago) link
Well, it happened. Sort of. https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/22-01-2021/did-everyone-spontaneously-applaud-amanda-palmer-in-a-havelock-north-cafe-a-spinoff-investigation/
― jaymc, Friday, 22 January 2021 03:42 (one month ago) link
Lol, "the guy I talked to about the inauguration the day before clapped and said congrats" is not quite the same story.
― Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Friday, 22 January 2021 04:10 (one month ago) link
guys, let's try to get her twitter banned for spreading misinformation and FAKE NEWS
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 22 January 2021 04:57 (one month ago) link
(update: town of 15k now we've narrowed it down, too)
― shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 05:29 (one month ago) link
first the Hawke's Bay region had that earthquake in 1931 and now they have to deal with THIS
― Pre-Raphaelite Brah (King Boy Pato), Friday, 22 January 2021 11:36 (one month ago) link
brilliant
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:53 (one month ago) link
I'm imagining a version of No Exit with Donald Trump and Amanda Palmer stuck in a room forever ... hopefully I wouldn't be the third person.
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:18 (one month ago) link
sarahell is other peo- ah, forget it
― imago, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:24 (one month ago) link
just c&p to "username/post" lj
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:49 (one month ago) link
lol @ kiwis getting riled up over ppl believing or doubting this story
― Left, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:12 (one month ago) link
fwiw, i'd be pretty riled up if i were falsely accused of participating in a standing ovation for this clown too!
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:15 (one month ago) link