Israel to World: "Suck It."

was about to say: among the white guys Chris Hayes is by far the best critical thinker, but I can sense when he hangs fire and lets Hasan, etc. do the talking for him (strategy, etc).

― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, October 15, 2023 4:23 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, Sam Seder has said that Hayes brings him on the show to make points that Hayes can’t make himself

guy who stabbed that kid to death looks like a complete nutter, going to guess they're going to push for an insanity defense or dementia or something.

Biden says Hamas must be eliminated entirely, but 'there must be a path to a Palestinian state' https://t.co/LQjLaHUQyQ

— CNBC (@CNBC) October 16, 2023

*has been

it isn't really any different to the usual completely empty american support for a two-state solution. he even qualified it with something about how he didn't expect israel would take action there immediately or anything.

guy who stabbed that kid to death looks like a complete nutter

the fact that the photo of him on BBC still showing blood on his face is fucked up, if the even wasn't upsetting enough.

he even qualified it with something about how he didn't expect israel would take action there immediately or anything.

no worries if not

xp to self, *event

I've had a recommendation/request that, since this thread is several thousand posts long and Israel has entered a new phase of telling the world to suck it, this thread be locked and a new one started.

Agreed. Let's start sucking some more.

Can see the suction being out of sync if it gets too long. Israel having to up degree by which they suck accordingly.

https://x.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1713918251955032122?s=20

This is @GhassanAbuSitt1, a surgeon who is currently saving the lives of Palestinians in a hospital in Gaza. He's just reported that counter terrorism police have showed up at his house in the UK and harrased his family.pic.twitter.com/GOvl5aQLHG https://t.co/bugmmZPAMM

— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) October 16, 2023

Chotiner and Sari Bashi, the program director at Human Rights Watch:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-humanitarian-catastrophe-in-gaza

I've had a recommendation/request that, since this thread is several thousand posts long and Israel has entered a new phase of telling the world to suck it, this thread be locked and a new one started.

― WmC, Monday, October 16, 2023 8:08 AM

i request a less callous thread title too

TY. I was hesitant to say anything about it, but I don't think this kind of title does the situation any service.

As noted, I know numerous IRL people with Israeli flag avatars saying that they stand with Israel no matter what.

Plus I know IlXorz and others who almost uniformly condemn Israel as a brutal apartheid state that continues to use "but the Holocaust" as a laminated carte blanche for every atrocity the IDF wishes to commit. (There is a bit of a strawman in there but that's another topic for another time.)

I have met exactly zero people in between. I know it is not about me and/or my feelz. And I don't love "both sides"ing US politics either. The discourse is polarized and will remain so.

strange, because everyone I personally know is in between on this issue.

Same!

I request a less callous thread title as well.

It's a complex and difficult, tragic situation and people are hesitant to speak up ok this kind of thing with good reason.

Chotiner and Sari Bashi, the program director at Human Rights Watch:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-humanitarian-catastrophe-in-gaza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W43C8xhh5E

Sam & Emma interviewing Omar Shakir, Israel & Palestine Director at HRW this morning

I made a new thread
Israel, Palestine & the Levant rolling events: Oct 23 on