Sault - What's the story?

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"I Surrender" is nice

Indexed, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

!!!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

Oh Mr. Sault you are spoiling us etc.

Gonna take me a while to process this.

Well yes

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

I like Sault, often a lot.

This is too much fucking music.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

it's pretty good though!

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

xp ILM card REVOKED

sleeve, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

*bursts into sobs*

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

Thought their rate of putting out music was already pretty crazy but sheesh

Vinnie, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

Listened to Today & Tomorrow (the Zamrock-ish album) first. It's good; somewhere between Afro-psych and the Jazz Is Dead series run by Adrian Younge and Ali Shaheed Muhammad.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

saulted by voices

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

a saulty salute

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

lol

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

this reminds me more of the Aphex Twin Soundcloud dump as opposed to a prolific band, but yeah I'll take it!

sleeve, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

I started working on a Sault tribute mix in 2021, and had 14 hours of tracks as a first pass after having culled through about half of my albums... realized it's basically impossible because they distill so many traditions.

And that was before they revealed the further facets of 'Nine' 'Ten' and especially 'Air'. And now all these!

Soundslike, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

Is that Simz on "Free"?

Indexed, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

What!?

WHAT!?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

xp also anyone knows who the vocalist on "God In Disguise" is?

Indexed, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

also anyone knows who the vocalist on "God In Disguise" is?

getting very strong madonna vibes from whoever that is on "god in disguise" and "life we rent but love is rent free" which are both amazing.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

just came here to ask that! She's kinda jarring with that theatrical vibrato, but it adds to the Minneapolis shoulderpads feel of the track.

bendy, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

Minneapolis shoulderpads feel

yes!

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

100%

Indexed, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

I worked on the new SAULT project.

Grateful for Inflo and his trust in me and my team 🖤🥹. He is a genius. Honestly.

Good luck guessing the password to download the albums for free 🖤✨

— Livi Lovez (@livilovez) November 1, 2022

groovypanda, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

saulted by voices
a saulty salute

Well done!

an incomprehensible borefest full of elves (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

Listened to Today & Tomorrow (the Zamrock-ish album) first. It's good; somewhere between Afro-psych and the Jazz Is Dead series run by Adrian Younge and Ali Shaheed Muhammad.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, November 1, 2022 11:08 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i randomly started here - loving it. i'm always surprised the muhammad/young series doesn't get more hype, there's been some great stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

So far I've listened to Today & Tomorrow, Earth and Aiir. Aiir is more of his orchestral work, which is nice enough but I feel like he should be doing movie soundtracks or something. But the other two are great! Love the rock/punk vibe on T&T, and Earth has the kind of range that the 2020 albums did. "Valley of the Ocean" is my top pick so far, but I've liked a bunch of the songs.

I'm going to take my time listening to these albums. i put on T&T earlier while catching up on emails and actually forgot what i was listening to. I genuinely thought i was listening to some lost Zamrock gem for a while until the fourth track when some Sault-y-ness became apparent. Then it went all over the place in the best possible way. The Plan is as close to Punk as i imagine Sault might get. So good! While T&T perhaps starts off feeling like an unfinished experiment / jam it soon becomes fully formed greatness. Above The Sky is already in my imagined Sault's Greatest Hits playlist.

looking forwatd to listening to 11 tomorrow.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

I'll take my time re-listening to them, but finished my binge today with Untitled (God) and 11. Both also really good! Leaving Aiir aside — and it's not bad either, just sort of bores me — the other four are way more killer than filler. With a big musical range. Pretty impressive.

so far only heard untitled (god) and today & tomorrow - don't really care for the lyrical focus of untitled (god) but it's one of their strongest releases. today & tomorrow is a bit patchier though

ufo, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 10:17 (one year ago) link

11 is fine, it's focused on their lower-key bass-driven sound, quite pleasant but nothing exciting here

ufo, Thursday, 3 November 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

I've only had time listen to fragments of each release so far. I'm skeptical of this predominant turn towards religion. I have listened to and loved a whole lot of gospel blues and religious music in my life but it's not necessarily something for which I turn to Sault. It kinda makes them seem more like a cult than an interesting collective of artists, but I recognize this may be a snap judgment.

Chris L, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

Air is the best album of its kind in years, if not decades. On first listen Aiir is reaching the same bar, I'm blown away

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

That's interesting, what would you call albums of its kind? I'm not sure where it resides.

Can't yet sort through all my feelings that this lode of music and ideas unleashes, but what consistently amazes me is that I buy all of their conceptual swerves. Maybe because they've insulated themselves from commercial concerns, even when the self-affirmation gets thick (their trait which I find least appealing) I still go with it. Find it transcendent even. A track like "Together" on 11 - do they work out a Band of Gypsies groove and then decide "let's have Althea and Donna styled vocals on top"? Cause it's a great idea, but in the hands of Lenny Kravitz or Jack White or Raphael Saadiq is would be precious or overthought or annoying. They really know how to work an idea without draining the life out of it.

bendy, Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

the sault cheese incident

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

"The Return" on Today & Tomorrow has the most "Radiohead" guitar figure on it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

actually some of this really reminds me of The Smile

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

@ tipsy like the history of orchestral/chamber music mostly-instrumental "albums" that may-or-may-not contain elements of 50s/60s easy-listening; David Axelrod, High Llamas. Last track on Air ("Luos Higher") sounds like Eyvind Kang at his best

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

The quality of arranging is at such a virtuosic level that the entire endeavour feels effortless in the best possible way

I haven't delved into the other four of the new albums yet but am excited to do so tonight

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

I think I might like AIIR more than AIR

Right now 11 and Earth are my favorites of the batch, I'm finding the production and messy drumming on Today & Tomorrow a bit annoying

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

The quality of arranging is at such a virtuosic level that the entire endeavour feels effortless in the best possible way

ty fgti, that's an interesting assessment since that realm is pretty much unknown territory to me. I do get what you're talking about here, definitely it feels very accomplished. As does most of what he/they do. I'm trying to think of anyone or anything comparable to Sault and can't really. Obviously they have a ton of influences mentioned throughout this whole thread, but the range and virtuosity and sheer dgaf-ness of the way it's all presented is really something. One thing I thought with all five albums dropping was, this is what Prince probably would have liked to do in the mid-'80s, when he was just firing on all cylinders. Not to compare Inflo to Prince, but the "Watch this trick, now this one" vibe is similar.

Also someone's gotten around to putting these on YouTube, so here's one of my favorites so far. ("Valley of the Ocean," which I mentioned above.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEJr7K0h9Jw


actually some of this really reminds me of The Smile

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, November 3, 2022 4:04 PM

I remember thinking when I listened to The Smile, that Thom & Co must've been listening to Sault

Soundslike, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

Also, this is the dumbest, most wrong-headed music-related written opinion I've seen in many, many years:

https://andrewdubber.com/over-saulted/

Soundslike, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

Did Geir write that?

an incomprehensible borefest full of elves (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 3 November 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

I'd call them more a groove band than a jam band, but he's not wrong about that part — it's part of what I like about them, they build songs around grooves. But the idea that this is all mostly improvised is bizarre.

discussed a lil bit here - OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

Terrible take. Also it’s sort of taking issue with statements not made by the band? The band themselves are not explicit about their intentions with each release, we don’t know if they’re commenting about the perception of scarcity or democratization of art or the disposability and/or fleetingness of the medium or whatever this reviewer is taking from it.

The anonymity amplifies the music, which should be the focus imho

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

between assuming that most of the music is improvised and that the band is a cooperative of hundreds of pro session musicians "donating bits of spare stuff"(?), he seems to be completely naïve about the basics of how bands operate and how albums are recorded. its very strange, especially considering his bio identifies him as a former "Professor of Music Industry Innovation"

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

also funny that this guy whose expertise is new media/"innovation" seems to take it for granted that AIIR must have been created with a massive live orchestra and not with VST/synth stuff

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link


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