general 2021 MLB discussion thread

plus getting career years out of the previously suspect, like gausman and desclafani and (hot) d. leone

Not to mention Mike Yastrzemski, a guy who wasn't considered good enough to get playing time for the Baltimore Orioles

I don't get Tampa Bay at all. Personnel-wise, they may end up being the least impressive 100-win team ever.

Speaking of which: basically, the way the Rays are so good this year is by absolutely mercilessly dominating the Orioles. The difference in head-to-head record against Baltimore is the entirety of the difference between the Rays and the Yankees in the standings (or was a week or so ago, at any rate.)

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oh man, i have a pretty good feeling that wander franco is going to be torturing the blue jays (and the rest of the AL east) for the next several years, although it's almost guaranteed that the rays will trade him away at the top of his value and get an absolute fortune for him.

he's more can't miss than vlad jr was, and vlad jr was can't miss.

hitting for a 5.0 WAR pace during your rookie season and surprising absolutely no one by doing it is very unusual and a very good indicator

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That's it, you're right--I knew about that, slipped my mind. 18-1, +79 run differential vs. the Orioles; 70-51, +100 vs. the rest of the league.

Wander Franco: he can't miss, will be MVP by 2025 easy

my predictions have been made.

i will see all of YOU -- in the future

What’s this Mantle record?

Bleacher BJs

(xpost) I think it was consecutive games reaching base under the age of 21...Speaking of which, Mantle was 24 when he won his Triple Crown, and so was Williams when he won his first; Vlad would be younger than both.

just curious - who was the youngest hitter to lead the league in wOBA (or wRC+ or OPS)?

without looking it up, probably trout?

I tried to look it up last night and totally failed

Nobody keeps records for that kind of esoterica (maybe OPS); you have to do the legwork yourself.

haha, no i think i just need a baseball reference sub

Ask meg n ben

I've got a b-ref sub. Looks like Mantle 1952 and Cobb 1907 are the only 20-year-olds to lead their league in OPS. Don't know which one was older at season's start.

oh nice! thanks for looking it up. i'm willing to just give them a tie on that, since they're different baseball eras anyway (deadball/pre-integration for cobb)

Can I just say, since this seems appropriate for the general MLB thread, that b-ref is a national treasure and I absolutely get more than $36/yr's worth of entertainment and enlightenment from my Play Index subscription; highly recommended!

i had it for a year! then i lost it. totally lost it

I've got a b-ref sub. Looks like Mantle 1952 and Cobb 1907 are the only 20-year-olds to lead their league in OPS. Don't know which one was older at season's start.

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trout led the AL in OPS+ (but not OPS) as a 20 year old

bauer is now on "administrative leave" for the season, and ozuna has also been put on administrative leave. first for 7 days, then revisiting afterward.

"The league has the authority to unilaterally place players on administrative leave for up to seven days, per the MLB – MLBPA Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy. The leave can be extended thereafter by mutual agreement between MLB and the Players Association. Placement on administrative leave is not a disciplinary action and does not reflect any sort of finding in the league’s investigation. Players placed on administrative leave continue to be paid and to accumulate Major League service time."

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/09/mlb-reportedly-places-marcell-ozuna-on-administrative-leave.html

He still will be suspended, I think. Roberto Osuna got 75 games, so that would be my guess.

It's becoming clear the Orioles don't know how to play baseball pic.twitter.com/QfL7MZgprw

— Dustin Saracini (@DustinSaracini) September 11, 2021

Ya. I have no idea what that pitcher was thinking. I don’t see why he would do it, but it looked intentional the way he went right at him.

Yeah that’s a 15 yard penalty

It's becoming clear the Orioles don't know how to play baseball

And yet they ended up winning that game!

OK, fine, it's becoming clear the Orioles don't know how to play baseball

the reds broadcast team is discussing the latest billy joel concert and the view that the production guy had, reportedly.

this is still better than any broadcast involving jim edmonds, the worst broadcaster in baseball.

also, i want to express my disbelief than anyone, ever, thought it was a good idea to hire rob dibble

also, the reds fans are some of the worst fans of all time. they still boo the shit out of yadier molina, every single time, petty little assholes, because molina was involved in the brawl where cueto ended journeymen catcher jason larue's career by kicking him in the back. wow. brandon phillips always made a big deal out of chatting with yadi and showing everyone that they were totally cool. reds fans, petty assholes, there is no forgiveness. they cannot move on. while all this is happening, if a cardinal pitcher throws to first to check on the runner, a thing that happens all the fucking time, like photosynthesis? you know jeremy in Section 144 row 13B is going to lose his shit over that. BOOOOOOOO

you fucking cowards! you can't throw to first! let him take a gigantic lead!! god i love baseball!

DON'T YOU DARE TALK ABOUT JASON LARUE THAT WAY

reds fans don't even know who jason larue is

they're like

HEY DON'T TALK ABOUT JAY CREW LIKE THAT

nothing against earlnash or other ilx reds fans, lol

but jeezus just what i see on tv (they're in STL tonight, btw. i'm just remembering all of the many times where all of the above happened) is fucking stupid

i don't want to bring you down, but no non-bfib like yadi. he's a red-ass dick

i mean he's been a very good not-quite- hall-of-fame player etc. etc. but also whatever

i can't believe you said that about yadi

the world at large may hope waino-yadi reach the battery record, but it won't be because of the latter

the battery record is sometimes referred to as the "record that could never fall"

you know who would've been a HOF catcher if yadier molina didn't end his career with a tombstone piledriver off the top rope? jason larue

jason larue was DUE

some say that cueto did it because they knew larue had been spending a lot of time with video, analyzing the reds

molina was involved in the brawl where cueto ended journeymen catcher jason larue's career by kicking him in the back

larue was a cardinal at the time? yadi had nothing to do, as best i can tell, with cueto kicking a 36yo catcher in the head?

totally happy to boo everyone involved tho

especially yadi

dick

i love this recap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQIzhrsVNbE

it's totally accurate

i'm too hard on cueto. maybe he was getting crushed and was just feeling claustrophobic, i get that. i had an incident with my spouse in a small tent that we shared on our honeymoon. i felt like i was about to die, my body freaked out.

but one more time, look at what yadi did in that whole incident. they're STILL booing about that lol

it's gone into ric flair woo status, it's completely detached from happened at this point

sorry, typed the wrong words - not a small tent, but a single sleeping bag that we shared.

so yesterday the orioles were the only team in the AL East to win a game, today they're the only team in the AL East to not win a game, nature is healing etc