Eurovision 2020 (now featuring Eurovision 2021)

bill bailey barred for using the detestable phrase "throw my hat in the ring"

Yes, even the 'rock' songs on EV, like the Finnish song, don't usually have much in the way of rock guitar.

the portuguese song had more of a guitar solo (= unusually much of a guitar solo in this context) (but not in a horrible "the darkness" way) (i did not take the portuguese song to be camp and retro-winky btw)

there's no good reason to like graham continuity-wogan in this role obv but his irritating repeat joke abt metal as "angry music" was especially smug and dullardish (i enjoyed how crestfallen and disgusted he was at the outcome for the UK, it quite took the joy out of his perky-cheeky shtick lol) (good)

Norton sounding crushed was almost as fun as the Swiss lad looking crushed

swiss lad had a genuinely gorgeous impressive voice spoiled by an over-fey (tho probably sincere) performance and a not-great song gussied by by production melodramatics

probably unrepeatable but the points reversals as the popular vote came in were genuinely amazing theatre (as well as a sustained passage of rubbing salt into the uk wound lol lol lol)

i'd like to think if you could vote for your own nation the UK would still have finished nul point

there are 39 juries and 39 countries of popular vote. That means that in 78 different races, the UK didn't manage to score 10th place or better in any of those. That's actually quite an achievement.

xpost Waiting for the first negative points entry from them.

the uk entry had colossal entireled and yet half-assed will-this-do energy

this is why it was so much worse than the german entry, which was skilled and laser-focused trolling (and knowingly achieved its intention)

that's right

yes, but I would prefer to watch something half-arsed, bland and crap than be trolled with some of the most deliberately awful music / visuals I've ever encountered.

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article20658489.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_2.jpg

this is my favourite post-mortem take, if we really want to display our contempt to Europe let's have JHB take over next year.

https://i.imgur.com/7ztJK9e.png

hangover or still pissed? you decide

germany got its points from juries [2 from austria, 1 from romania] which is to say from professional game-recognise-game acknowledgment of the deliberate deliver of the intended effect

televoters agreed across the board with camaraderie ("it may be a skill but fvck it it offends me")

I suspect the Austrian / Romanian judges may have thought "hey this isn't for me but it's the kind of shit the idiotic public seem to like" -whereas

yes, but I would prefer to watch something half-arsed, bland and crap than be trolled with some of the most deliberately awful music / visuals I've ever encountered.

― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

Nah. I hated Germany with a passion but not as much as I hated Portugal.

UK needs to go drill or go home, imo.

Closest UK came to a point was Polish jury (11th). Managed to clock up twenty-one 25th+26th finishes across the 78 polls. EVERY juror on the Israel panel placed UK last, as did the Israel public vote.

Two points from Austrian jury for Germany mostly because of "Juror A" (is that you, Arnie?) and their lunatic 5th-place vote.

We need a deep dive on how the various juries are made up -- i'm guessing it's approached differently by different countries -- but if they do vote so as to prdict and accord with the popular voter then they are not doing their jobs IMO. The divergence is a strength: it amplifies and dramatises the gulf between how those within the craft (music-biz ppl including musicians) assess music and how the general public asssesses it.

also divergence makes the reversals of the final stretch super-exciting

UK panel on Lithuania: 22nd, 13th, 21st, 20th, 25th. UK televote: 1st.

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

lithuania was one of my faves.
i always enjoy the switcheroo with the public votes, it looked worryingly like that wasn't going to happen last night at the start

Lithuania was the best but I'm not shocked Gary Barlow didn't get it

Lithuania overdid the quirky but the song was good.

Don't have strong feelings about Italy either way, but if feels like one of the least catchy winners in recent memory? I can hum a line or two of pretty much every song that won in the past 15 years (ok maybe not Jamala) but yeah I have nothing for "Zitti e Buoni".

“1944” has a strong hook tho:

Yaşlığıma toyalmadım
Men bu yerde yaşalmadım

(this is not snark btw)

'1944' is an awesome song, didn't remember it being unpopular on here?

yes, it is awesome

it is awesome! I just couldn't remember how it goes

Nah. I hated Germany with a passion but not as much as I hated Portugal.

https://scandipop.co.uk/norways-eurovision-2022-song-subwoolfer-give-wolf-banana/

We have a new thread!

Eurovision Song Contest 2022

ah, ty