some stoner bands play that slow because they're so high and bad at guitar that it actually takes them that long to change chords
I once asked Dave Mustaine how he could play so fast on heroin, and he said it was mostly muscle memory.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link
lollllxp
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link
N.B. re Springsteen: I do not like any of his music, not even the at least conceptually interesting 1970s stuff.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link
I actually like his lyrics and voice; just don't always find the music engaging enough to keep me coming back to complete albums. "Born to Run" is amazing.
― to party with our demons (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link
'State Trooper' is memorable.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:15 (three years ago) link
unperson, that doesn't quite track for me. he's had steinman-esque tendencies from the beginning, cf. "growin up," "jungleland," "rosalia"
and i'd say the "america" connection started to really form up with nebraska (named after an american state, after all), before he made it obvious with that famous born in the usa album cover
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:15 (three years ago) link
I think its fair to say that for many non-believers, the E-Street band does Bruce no favours
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:20 (three years ago) link
I'm trying to imagine being repulsed by someone who (for example) britishes so britishly that I just can't stand it
Or frenches frenchily or whatever
I know it's not the same - hegemony and power structures etc. - but just thinkin baout it
― pot sounds (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link
Lots of North Americans hate e.g. Morrissey for that reason. I've heard it said about early Genesis as well.
― to party with our demons (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link
translation: ppl who hate early Genesis will know what pain feels like when I'm done with them.
Neanderthal's original post: Ugg okk grog mak OOBAH!!!!
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link
On a broader note, the list of abstract descriptors that strongly suggest I will not enjoy a given record begins with 'humorous', 'cartoony' and 'quirky'.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link
95% of British whimsy is utterly lost on me and I don't feel like I'm missing out at all.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
controp #2: I hate RATM because i love the German power/speed metal band Rage and any time I try to search for their shit I have to huge a lot of modifiers or boolean logic
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
I know what I like in Neanderthal's posts
― pot sounds (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
Pulp, Morrissey, the Jam, Syd Barrett-era Pink Floyd...there are many, many examples I could choose.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link
You have searched for Rage - did you mean Rage Against the Machine?
You have searched for Rage "-against" "-machine" - here is Queensryche's "Rage for Order"
You have searched for "rage perfect man" - but no perfect man has rage, so what are you even searching for
You have searched for "rage missing link" - I know you hated Java Man, Neanderthal, but you need to make peace with your feelings for him
You have searched for "rage german" - that is an offensive stereotype, Neanderthal, and I won't complete this search for you
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link
lol YMP
I don't hate 'em, but I don't get the Kinks for this very reason. I had no idea what a village green was before I set foot in the UK.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link
xps
xp I love Bruce but am always secretly a little surprised when anyone else does, because my love for him is so personal and has relatively little to do with the actual music. There's a clumsiness or a try-hard quality about his work that I personally find endearing and compelling but could just as easily find off-putting. He doesn't seem to have a natural genius for anything in particular, and so everything - his singing, his guitar playing, his lyric-writing, his storytelling, even his looks - seems like something he built for himself out of found materials that are just a little heavier than what he needs. I think that's cool but could see someone just going, "ugh why is there so much of everything???"
My reasons for coming to love Bruce were suuuper literal and predictable and had to do with moving to a small town, buying a car, making friends with people with names like Bobby and Johnny and watching their lives slowly disintegrate and their dreams die, and then leaving said small town and getting hit by a wave of loneliness, culture shock and survivor guilt. It's hard to imagine how I would react to his music if I didn't have that sense of direct personal identification as a starting point.
― I am not a psychic community (Lily Dale), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
in be-4 700th "kink-shaming" joek
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
these are really basic “controversial” opinions, are you all college freshmen?
― brimstead, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
― pomenitul, Tuesday, February 2, 2021 4:27 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh god, yes! Thousand times this.
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link
Lol at Neanderthal's desperate attempts to change course here haha
I'd like to point you in the direction of this thread:
a mix between The Stone Roses and Primal Scream with the swagger of Oasis
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link
good post lily dale
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link
lol, I'd actually love to see you apply a /10 rating to each of the controps posted itt over the past 24h.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link
he tried to go Phil Spector and wound up Jim Steinman instead
i love springsteen but holy shit this is an amazing way to describe him
― joygoat, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link
are you all college freshmen?
17th time's the charm
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link
Lily otm. Can't really be mad cuz if Darkness doesn't mean everything to you in early adulthood, it's probably never going to click and that's whatever
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link
haha was gonna say maybe what repulses you guys is "america" as a concept
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, February 2, 2021 8:03 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this could practically be its own ilx board
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link
I was a latecomer to Br00ce, mostly because one of my best friends is an outright obsessive. Bruce for him is like Slayer for me except he's seen him probably over 100 times and kept trying to get me to go see him with him, but the only music I knew of his was the 80s hits. and trying to tell me I should do something over and over again is a good way to get me not to do it because of childhood stubbornness.
I think it was 2010 or 2011 when I bought Nebraska because the concept seemed cool to me, then I went back to the beginning of his career and realized I liked the dense arrangements and his raw vocals and the Clemons saxophone. I'm not a huge 'heartland rock' dude but Bruce is the type I dig.
eventually did see him live with the friend - can't believe he still plays 3 hour shows. I was exhausted by the end.
i'll finish this thought later when my mother stops screaming at an automated voice system and I can collect my thoughts
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link
xpost we definitely need an I Hate America board. who wants to request on MRF
Even though I'm from NJ, the NJ Springsteen is from (and about) is unrecognizable to me. Where I grew up, it was rich kids listening to the Grateful Dead and poor kids listening to rap, metal and punk, and where I've lived for the last ~30 years everybody listens to rap and various flavors of Latin music (norteño, bachata, reggaeton, etc.). What Lily said about his music requiring identification is dead on IMO. As is this:
There's a clumsiness or a try-hard quality about his work that I personally find endearing and compelling but could just as easily find off-putting. He doesn't seem to have a natural genius for anything in particular, and so everything - his singing, his guitar playing, his lyric-writing, his storytelling, even his looks - seems like something he built for himself out of found materials that are just a little heavier than what he needs. I think that's cool but could see someone just going, "ugh why is there so much of everything???"
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link
Tom would be its moderator-in-chief. I could help out as needed.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link
― pomenitul, Tuesday, February 2, 2021 4:42 PM (fifty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
Would not hesitate to join this coalition of the willing
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:44 (three years ago) link
i personally hate america too and would love to join
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:44 (three years ago) link
Americans also welcome!
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link
Tbf, a chunk of the E Street Band plays on that Meatloaf album.
So Britishers, is listening to very American music like Bruce Springsteen or Johnny Cash or whatever considered as much of a cultish affectation there as someone listening to, say, Pulp or Blur or Oasis (or even the Kinks) might be here?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link
Do not put Johnny Cash in the same category as Springsteen!
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link
YEAH, he's (better/worse/sexier/better at guitar/dead/an adulterer)
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link
Springsteen isn't interesting enough to have a cult following. In the UK he's just some rock star that some people like, he's more Bon Jovi than Johnny Cash in the UK.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link
I promised I wouldn't get angry but
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link
Oasis is surely more mainstream in North America than those others? "Wonderwall" is such a campfire cliche it's a meme.
― to party with our demons (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link
Agreed; Springsteen needs to record about 100 more novelty songs like "One Piece at a Time" and "The One on the Right is on the Left" to approach Cash territory.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link
I'm from the West of Scotland, everybody loves Johnny Cash there, so I'm not the best judge.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link
Ice Cube and Carly Simon and John Philip Sousa and Glenn Miller and Lyle Lovett are as American as Springsteen
Just as Gary Glitter and Edward Elgar and Posh Spice are equally British
Anyway the thread for hating America is
American things
― pot sounds (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link
I doubt that there's an American equivalent to anglophilia or francophilia or whatever ppl who are really into manga and shit are, for the reasons YMP said above re hegemony. US pop culture is too dominant to build a cult around, even with artists that I hear more in the US than anywhere else, like idk Styx or 38 Special or Lynyrd Skynyrd.
― to party with our demons (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link
I love America btw.
― to party with our demons (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link
Not enough to still live there, admittedly.