I wonder where the extra "v" comes from in demonyms like Peruvian or Oslovian?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 06:35 (three years ago) link
I think it's to do with an implied W at the end.
Some discussion at https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/310461/why-is-there-a-v-in-peruvian
Wikipedia gives the etymology as Piruw [pɪɾʊw], from Quechua, the Inka language.That [w] at the end would become a /v/ in Spanish when adding a suffix to produce Peruviano.
Time for a campaign for 'Glagovian' to upset the natives.
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 07:46 (three years ago) link
spanish word for peruvian is peruano though. could never understand the logic of spanish doing this, in the same vein, americano vs. estadounidense, nicaragüense, etc. why puertorriqueño and not puertorriquense.
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
Osloid
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link
Christian
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
did we get this sorted?
― mark s, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link
Osilator
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
Oslonaut
Praguer U
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link
demonyms should get their own thread imo
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
poll demonyms
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link
this one is just...Aguascalientes Hidrocálido
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
i mean why change from latin to greek
Search & Destroy: Demonyms
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link
Ozalid
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link
deemsonyms
― mark s, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
I'm creating a gif where a quote begins on one screen (I don't really know how you describe gifs) and ends on another. Where do the quote marks go? I am working on the assumption it will work in the same way as in regular prose where a quote extends across two paragraphs, i.e. first para has an initial quote mark but no end quote (to show continuation), while second para has quotes at beginning and end. So like this:
"The quote begins on one screen...
"and ends on another."
Is that right? I suppose I would just follow whatever is standard in subtitling/captioning, but I don't know much about that.
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link
not sure there's a right/wrong here so much as a "how clearly do you feel it reads?"
myself i wd probably go with:
… and ends on another"
(reason i guess bcz the regular-prose usage is abt how the eye reads and travels and reads when things are on the same page, on one line and then the next? but as reasons go this is merely an ex post facto ratioanlisation of my preferred taste really)
― mark s, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link
if the broken paragraph was many lines long i might not do it this way, but if it's this short yr talking abt the eye taking it in in one blink
― mark s, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link
Are these captions for people speaking, or is like a silent voiceover kind of deal?
― pplains, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
(xpost)
Hmm, I think you're right. I did it the first way without thinking when writing the script in a doc, but it looks fussy in the gif. I'll go with your suggestion, thanks.
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
Are the ellipsis going to be visible?
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
It's just a little promotional gif - no sound.
Yeah, either way, I'd have ellipses on screen as written above.
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link
in that case I would have a space after 'screen' (but again I think that's just personal preference).
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link
INVITE as a noun, c/d
there seems to be a history of it, but also i hate it. i mean INVITATION is right there (as is INVITEE, for even more horrifying usages)
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 February 2021 23:08 (three years ago) link
asking a colleague if they got an “invitation” to a meeting or a zoom call feels inappropriately festive or momentous to me - “invite” sounds right to me in that situation
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link
Either tbh
― scampsite (darraghmac), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link
^^^canceled and cancelled xp
but maybe you're right
― mookieproof, Friday, 12 February 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link
Bet that the aussies call it an invie or something
― scampsite (darraghmac), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:31 (three years ago) link
Theyd call british disgust at same the pommie tsks of invie maybe
― scampsite (darraghmac), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:32 (three years ago) link
the sad bells of invies
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link
it’s a weird areasometimes i call my work planner my “diary” and sometimes my “calendar”people who call it their “outlook” are disgusting dogs imo
What if you are....using outlook?
― scampsite (darraghmac), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link
Invite is even pronounced differently than invite.
― pplains, Friday, 12 February 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link
Yes, it’s evolved like the noun version of embed in that regard. I’m at peace with both. In fact I don’t really see why people get het up about verbs becoming nouns.
― Alba, Friday, 12 February 2021 08:39 (three years ago) link
Fuck an "invite". I'm not going.
― Major D in QAnon (onimo), Friday, 12 February 2021 08:44 (three years ago) link
ive probably said this before in this thread but the way words can cheekily step out of their parsed category is one of the excellent things about the english language (and it isn't just nouns and verbs)
my off-the-cuff theory is that it's bcz english doesn't really deploy word-endings as declensions or conjugations but the why of it matters less than the fact that it happens and it's poetry
― mark s, Friday, 12 February 2021 10:29 (three years ago) link
also poetry: the shift of the accent in invite and invite
― mark s, Friday, 12 February 2021 10:32 (three years ago) link
Naw, “invitation” is way too associated with things you want to attend, and has a valence of being something extended in honour and attended as a privilege. The “INvite” to the cross-functional alignment meeting, OTOH, is extended in the spirit of mutual suffering and perfunctory ritual obligation, and I feel like the word reflects that.
― Guys don’t @ me because I tazed my own balls alright? (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 12 February 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link
See also: pre-sént (v) and prés-ent (n).
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Friday, 12 February 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
There way seems to be a tendency to stress the first syllable on the noun version of verb/noun words
Present, invite, embed and record all follow this, at least.
I think some people do 'access' that way too, and I quite like it, but most of us just stress the first syllable regardless.
― Alba, Friday, 12 February 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link
Lots more here, in fact:https://www.english-at-home.com/pronunciation/noun-and-verb-syllable-stress/
When they begin the beguine
When they present the present
― 4 QAnon Blondes (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 February 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
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― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
Why will no-one correct “a myriad of” in any book, ever, anymore? Is “myriad” no longer an adjective?*weeps*
― "The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 3 June 2021 04:05 (two years ago) link
Well, googling tells me that the noun form is fine & actually predates the adjective. *tears of pedantry*
― "The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 3 June 2021 04:09 (two years ago) link
A myriad originally denoted the specific numeric quantity 'ten thousand'. Over time, it acquired a much less specific meaning, denoting 'an unspecified large number or quantity'. In this usage the whole amount being described is treated as a unit, and it is analogous to other unitary measures such as a bushel of peas, a handful of dust, a cup of water, or a lot of people. Used in this way it has a myriad of applications.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Thursday, 3 June 2021 04:25 (two years ago) link
Apparently.
― "The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 3 June 2021 04:43 (two years ago) link
old-timey pictures of the sphinx which are terrible
^^^or shd it have been "old-timey pictures of the sphinix that are terrible"
when my if…. book came out martin skidmore said (among nicer things) that it was full of me getting the which/that choice wrong -- basically (ppl who hire proofing editors close yr eyes NOW) i go more by feel and sound and not some dumb rule (but what even is the rule lol): here i was likely just bodyswerving the repeated "th" and i'd do it again copper
― mark s, Friday, 7 January 2022 10:30 (two years ago) link