"The August 2020 US Politics Thread is highly thought of, but nobody likes me. It can only be my personality. That's all."

https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/editorials/article245286690.html

Democrats blocking police reform in California

The bills, which met strong resistance from law enforcement groups and some weak-kneed legislators, teetered near the brink of failure on Wednesday.

rinse and repeat on the national level when/if joe wins

nothing is going to change!

“We have no connection to any such robo calls,” Burkman later wrote in an email, claiming that the call came from “a liberal group trying to embarrass us.”

lol @ the idea of going out of one's way to embarrass jacob wohl

▪ The Deadly Force Accountability Act (Assembly Bill 1506). This bill by Assemblyman Kevin McCarty, D-Sacramento, would allow local law enforcement leaders and district attorneys to request that the California state attorney general investigate police shootings. But despite the fact that the bill enjoys support from a large coalition of groups, including the NAACP and the California Police Chiefs Association, it has had one very powerful opponent: California Attorney General Xavier Becerra, a Democrat who has repeatedly made it clear that he’s no friend of police reform.

“The AG has a $1.1 billion budget with 4,500 employees and 1,100 attorneys,” said McCarty earlier this month. “If he wanted to, he could prioritize independent investigations for police deadly force. In this historic George Floyd era, we hope he reconsiders.”

The first thing I thought of when I saw the setup for the bullshit tonight:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgderOuWAAAz63U?format=jpg&name=large

Were the graves at Arlington Cemetery:

https://stayva.s3.amazonaws.com/2019/08/22/arlingtonnationalcemetery.jpg

Or Normandy:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Omaha-beach-cemetery.jpg/300px-Omaha-beach-cemetery.jpg

one can only hope

If there's any consolation, it's likely in the 90s now. On the other hand, Trump will probably crank the WH A/C and open the windows.

https://d1e9ycqe323hkh.cloudfront.net/items/362643135622.jpg

Casket of Trumpets

'No master. You're the master!'

Cannot kill the family
Lechery is found in me

lol pomenitul

More Americans died from coronavirus during the Republican Convention than died on 9/11.

— David Litt (@davidlitt) August 28, 2020

TWEET FROM THE FUTURE: More Americans died from the coronavirus contracted at the Republican Convention than died on 9/11.

i’ve heard that ethical concerns have been raised

On the plus side, this coronation was Trump's high-point of his campaign. It can only be downhill for him from here.

Biden campaign apparently purchased and runs the Keep America Great domain.

Would think there would be a need for widespread change from th emess taht t left though.

Solemn flags and stunning lights mark White House campaign rally held by Donald Trump. pic.twitter.com/3T1acQAsaW

— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) August 28, 2020

oh lovely, singing loudly, hope that isn't a method of spread or anything.

the pundits who thought bernie’s big twitter energy meant he was gonna cruise to the nomination are all-in on the “scary protests helps trump” big twitter energy

— kilgore trout, new tone haver (@KT_So_It_Goes) August 28, 2020

I honestly have no clue if the stuff in Kenosha is gonna tilt Wisconsin one way or the other. I suspect everyone I know decrying this is in the tank for Trump anyway.

Ready for my hot-take? Throughout the Trump presidency there have been almost *countless* moments that seemed MASSIVELY important politically, from Charlottesville, to gov't shut down (remember that?) to impeachment, & basically none of it has altered a remarkably stable picture.

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) August 28, 2020

i like Chris Hayes but there's no dash in 'hot take'

that's also like the most lukewarm take ever

hayes of all people should know that Trump's M.O. is to pile up the outrages so it's impossible to remember what's happened

He mentions it often on his show.

i am def. not in the tank for trump and i think wisconsin is lost. i think minn. may be lost too. basically i think the election is lost.

this is what the future looks like to you guy?

ha! yes, sadly.

Any particular reason why you think WI and MN are lost? FYI, 538's polling average has Biden up ~6 in both states, and their forecast predicts him to win each by ~4.

hillary's margin in minn. was slim, and folks there might not all see the destruction of shops, grocery stores and residences in a revolutionary / anti-capitalist context. some of them have to eat and live there.

6 percent is small stuff -- the negative campaigning hasn't even really started yet. dukakis was up more than biden before being willie hortoned.

i think wisconsin is lost. i think minn. may be lost too. basically i think the election is lost.

there's a "trump is gonna win" containment thread for this stuff

There's a thread for this. You really don't have to wipe it all over every politics thread.

rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread

xp

Oh, I definitely get being worried. By no means do I think Biden has it in the bag in any of the swing states. Was just wondering why you were focused on those two states. (And I'll admit that I didn't realize until I looked it up that Minnesota was so close. Biden is doing better in Michigan.)

Sigh this again

folks there might not all see the destruction of shops, grocery stores and residences in a revolutionary / anti-capitalist context.

This is true but they also might not all see Trump-inspired teen murderers in a "just restoring order" context. "Why can't we all just get along?" politics are extremely popular and whether you like those politics or not, it's Biden who's offering them.

sorry, newbie to politic thread dynamics. xpost

hillary's margin in minn. was slim, and folks there might not all see the destruction of shops, grocery stores and residences in a revolutionary / anti-capitalist context. some of them have to eat and live there.

― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, August 28, 2020 9:48 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this was part of the omar primary challenge, she won decisively and received 40,000 more votes than she did last time

I get being worried about the election but what does anybody benefit from saying THE ELECTION IS LOST?

like...the Floyd protests didn't hurt Biden's numbers, at all! In fact, Trump's actions during that time corresponded with a dip in his approval rating and a greater gap in the race.

Negative campaigning has already started! I've seen a million negative ads from Trump already.

1988 was a very different era where fewer states were gimmes for blue and red. Back when you could amass 400+ EVs with ease. No Presidential election has swung that dramatically in recent years. Kerry is a better analogue - he was winning by 6-7 points and blew it.

and yes, it's hard to beat an incumbent. but it happens, and we're probably due for a one-term President since we haven't had one SINCE George H. W. Bush

TSF I totally understand where you're coming from but I'm optimistic for a few reasons

1) anti-Trump sentiment seems way stronger than pro-Trump sentiment right now and a lot of 2016 swing voters (who went for Trump) are just plain sick of him. I know people say these folks just don't exist but I personally know a couple.

2) the entire 'give him a chance' mentality is no longer in his favor. we gave him a chance. things are legitimately shitty now in ways that are paralleled only by the worst events in American history. even Republicans seem to agree the country is on the wrong track.

3) Joe Biden, as bland and lukewarm as he is, is not Hillary Clinton, a woman whom the GOP has spent over 2 decades painting as some sort of boogeyman. none of the attacks on Biden seem to be sticking. even Republicans seem to like him.

obviously, there are things in favor of Trump - he's going to cheat, he's going to contest the results, and I think 4 years of QAnon bullshit has probably radicalized a new crop of boomer idiots who might've sat 2016 out. but his margins are razor thin.

i mean we had articles coming out prior to 2018 midterms "the blue wave will probably just be a trickle", "Dems should prepare for disappointment", and we had Bret Stephens acting as if the gains were moderate the day teh election ended and kept doubling down even as the total went to 40 seats.

people in these threads were even saying they thought Republicans would keep the House! It didn't happen. which isn't to say Biden has this thing won, but the election is not "lost" ffs.

some people cum when they talk about Democrats doing things badly

oh yeah I meant to mention that. Dems have overperformed in basically every election since Trump won, right? sure there have been some high profile disappointments like Gillum and Beto but by and large it feels like things have consistently swung their way

new crop of boomer idiots

don't think it's just boomer idiots who get pulled in by this shit. I'm more concerned by young ppl who are very online and get sucked into a antisocial nihilistic conspiracy theory whirlwind

nothing much you can do
when you're old at heart

Biden has been running nonstop TV and online ads in Florida since last week fwiw

what's the calculus on must-win swing states now? Has any of it changed? Last I checked biden had 6 ways to winning the EC and Trump had like, one.

Biden needs to get back on the air in Minnesota

don't think it's just boomer idiots who get pulled in by this shit. I'm more concerned by young ppl who are very online and get sucked into a antisocial nihilistic conspiracy theory whirlwind

yeah that's definitely true

People who actually live in Minneapolis will not vote for 45; it’s the people in the outer suburbs who value property and policing more than black lives (hi mom!) who won’t switch from their 2016 votes.