love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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#jobrejectionscheme is trending so i assume everything is going swimmingly

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 20 April 2020 09:43 (four years ago) link

oh god

That #TonyBlair has a lovely smile. #bbcnews pic.twitter.com/sesFRUyLGT

— Peter Laws (@revpeterlaws) April 20, 2020

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 20 April 2020 09:50 (four years ago) link

ha.

Mark G, Monday, 20 April 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link

Pretty sure that happened in an Aphex Twin video.

Matt DC, Monday, 20 April 2020 09:55 (four years ago) link

I think #jobrejectionscheme is for people who started a new job in March and are now ineligible for furlough cash.

Matt DC, Monday, 20 April 2020 09:56 (four years ago) link

from what I've read so far Tony Blair is doing a better job of opposition than Starmer today. He's that forensic he's got rid of all evidence of himself.

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 10:10 (four years ago) link

calz you just kind of praised Blair have you checked your temperature this morning?

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 April 2020 10:11 (four years ago) link

it's just a measure of how lousy Starmer is. I've stopped checking my temperature because according to google my average temperature of 96.4 f means I'm either dead or hyperthermic!

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 10:15 (four years ago) link

:D

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 April 2020 10:21 (four years ago) link

i believe that's known as Rentoul's Syndrome

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 April 2020 10:21 (four years ago) link

oh well I'll be able to sit out another 50 years of Labour being a completely useless opposition party and it'll be no biggie!

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 10:27 (four years ago) link

THere's always a chance they'll be a completely useless govt

Mark G, Monday, 20 April 2020 10:33 (four years ago) link

I think by the time that happens it won't even make any difference.

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 10:38 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWC6OvPXkAA8wiu?format=jpg&name=small

that first great meme of the day is always the freshest one

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 12:05 (four years ago) link

iirc he hasn't been seen since they weekend-at-berniesed him out of the hospital approx one COVID-19 ago

https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/11826304-3x2-700x467.jpg

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 20 April 2020 12:21 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWC3fDCWsAAqnVU?format=jpg&name=900x900

the image used by itv news tweet attached to his statement where he forbids anybody from the proletariat outliving him and to start digging now or he'll rain diseased blood on us!

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 12:33 (four years ago) link

in case you were in any doubt that we are living in profoundly cursed times

We would be in so much better a place if Tony Blair were prime minister

— Andrew Adonis (@Andrew_Adonis) April 20, 2020

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 20 April 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

I mean he's not exactly wrong, we'd be in a better place with literally any former PM but Brown is probably the one you would want around in a crisis. Don't even want to think about how Blair would be around Trump.

Matt DC, Monday, 20 April 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link

idk where to put this but i'm deeply depressed by the apparent inability of basically anyone left right or centre to imagine a way to handle this whole thing without state repression

fuck it (Left), Monday, 20 April 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

same lack of imagination behind so many leftists' support for the police state under corbyn. not that i have much idea how to proceed but i wish less was being taken for granted

fuck it (Left), Monday, 20 April 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link

i hear you, and yes

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 April 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link

unfortunately I don't think it is a good time for thinking outside the box - the only viable option seems: whatever has prevented spiralling death figures elsewhere. I might lack imagination but I can't see any better ideas rn.

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link

There is no imagining away the material facts of an epidemic & how a virus spreads; lockdown is no more authoritarian in principle than eg evacuation and if everything was in place as it should be to actually look after people this would not scan as repressive but as entirely excusable paternalism in the public interest, and for a limited time.

Microbes oft teem (wins), Monday, 20 April 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link

Unfortunately I think our physical liberty stopped existing in any meaningful sense when the virus hit. Lockdown is collective responsibility as much as anything else. Doesn't excuse a lot of the police behaviour, clearly.

Matt DC, Monday, 20 April 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link

Not the fact of the lockdown but the ways lockdown plays out in policing and public imagination.

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 April 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link

OTOH I'll likely feel differently in a year when all these new draconian powers have been retained for migrants, black guys, Muslims and no one else.

Matt DC, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link

And tbh I don't believe any pandemic is an automatic trump card over civil liberties. We don't seem to have reached a point where they're being eroded yet but I think eternal vigilance over politicians and bourgie fascism sympathisers is always a good idea

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 April 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

(eroded any further than the pre-existing trends, Matt otm)

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 April 2020 18:02 (four years ago) link

The tracking app on the other hand reminds me of ID cards in that it is only going to introduce a new layer of authoritarianism without solving the problem. Like, it just isn't going to work.

Matt DC, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link

feels like a good time to get an old phone

ogmor, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link

This govt and IT - they need to ditch professor Vardy or whoever it is before attempting a Rona app. It will probably end up causing total societal collapse in a week!

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link

re: lack of imagination, the rise of mutual aid groups is somewhat of a positive development - grass roots, just ppl trying to help each other out and started before any of the govt initiatives. One good argument I saw for keeping them going is that undocumented ppl aren't going to call govt-related help groups

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link

I'm just thinking a dysfunctional government app that ends up working in tandem with the disease and helping it spread would not be unlike a subplot from Rick and Morty.

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link

mutual aid is great ofc long as it doesn’t get recuperated into unpaid labour for state/capital... but it’s depressing seeing ppl so surrendered to existing conditions... the assertion that they exist is like a shrug which I relate to emotionally but it feels like defeat

fuck it (Left), Monday, 20 April 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

rick and morty is a documentary

mark s, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

Fishy?

Regarding those 128 fake #NHS Staff accounts posting for 'Herd Mentality' and support of the Govt that were set up by @DHSCgovuk or their marketing agency ...

Posts were sent using Hootsuite, a mass-posting tool. Account registered to 1 person with 4 assigned contributors. pic.twitter.com/r7fRFQaFwG

— John O'Connell (@jdpoc) April 20, 2020

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 20 April 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link

bantheclap? what?

silby, Monday, 20 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

the only good hashtag!

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

"43 accounts use actual photos of actual NHS staff."

jesus wept

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

So, there should be no politicisation of the coronavirus, unless Conservative.

Mark G, Monday, 20 April 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link

Red Ed is back.

(THREAD) It is worth explaining why I think government has made the wrong call on CBILs. It is falling into the trap of thinking the danger at the end of all this will be that we have done too much, too quickly when the danger is the opposite: we do too little, too slowly (1/)

— Ed Miliband (@Ed_Miliband) April 20, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 April 2020 20:56 (four years ago) link

Glad to see Boris is on the mend


is anyone else just absolutely REPULSED by this giant baby pic.twitter.com/0Un7QQ4kZF

— Yard Sard: A Memoir (@DuckAlertsNOW) April 20, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 April 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link

need a quite a hard-nosed authoritarian one giant policy relentlessly upheld rn imo

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

one giant baby I meant!

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link

Credit where credit's due that's some good Twitter wonkery for Miliband.

Matt DC, Monday, 20 April 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

I hated myself for voting for his worthless and vile 2015 aberration of what passes for opposition, but never doubted he's not a decent person.

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link

*nods along*

wait

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 20 April 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link

ah i read the thread now!

calzino, Monday, 20 April 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link


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