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yeah Norm's zings on Vera are a performative mask for self-loathing

and Sam's sluttiness was played as a non-positive more often than not

the sexual politics of cheers are pretty of their time. like my woke gf won't watch it with me

hard disagree. it's remarkably progressive for 1983.

"progressive for 1983" is still timely

(Sam's ability at conquest is only acclaimed as admirable by a) unfuckable losers who say in as many words that they do so because they're living vicariously through him, and b) Carla, who is universally sex-positive, but also lives vicariously because the expresssion of her own positivity has been drastically curtailed by her extreme fecundity)

shhh y'all are making me want to get into cheers

sic otm

the most problematic aspect of it is Sam and Diane's relationship, and on last viewing I thought the way that played out was actually better than I had remembered it. See the Cheers poll thread I guess.

Brad, do it!

I remember Cheers being soooo good but I haven't seen an episode in over 1-2 decades.

for ex., in the *third* episode of the show there's a subplot about a patron who's confused about what to do about his son's interracial relationship which also turns out to be a homosexual one (this reveal is played as a joke on Coach, who is of course initially confused). But the way its resolved is with the dad spontaneously coming to the conclusion that he must accept his son as he is because he loves him and wants him in his life. This is not how the vast majority of other 80s sitcoms would have handled that setup.

plus it's funny! The writing is filled with tons of great throwaway lines/gags

I just read that Frasier doesn't show up until season three and comes on the show as Diane's love interest, which I guess checks out but I swear I remember him as a recurring guest before then. I'm probably just remembering episodes out of order!

i think he isn't initially diane's fiance but they get together shortly after he appears? definitely doesn't show up til season 3

it's weird that I liked Frasier on Cheers but I really did not like the show Frasier.

initially diane's fiance but they get together shortly after he appears

Frasier debuts as Sam's therapist!

the show Frasier is garbage also fwiw

Shakey offtm, but it's no Cheers

Frasier is a different genre of sitcom, it's a definite shift into the '90s upper-class urbanites style and away from the working-class of Cheers, which was more in the vein of Taxi and WKRP et al in that regard. It's still good imo.

Frasier had some good characters but all of the running plot devices wore thin really quickly, imo

we get it, Frasier's brother has the hots for their dad's therapist but he's married, whatever

when did they add cheers to netflix and what other older sitcoms are available? taxi? bewitched? the andy griffith show??

(just checked - no, no, surprisingly yes)

the entirety of Cheers has been on Netflix for several years

taxi is streaming on hulu btw

in the *third* episode of the show there's a subplot about a patron who's confused about what to do about his son's interracial relationship which also turns out to be a homosexual one

Third episode on DVD, second episode aired! It took all the way until the 16th episode (aired Jan 27 1983) before they did one about gay athletes coming out and mocking homophobia

is that the "Cheers is turning into a gay bar!" episode? Cuz that one's also surprisingly great.

yah, titled The Boys In The Bar. time capsule: Norm is terrified that if Sam allows homos in, the bar might get ferns next.

tbf in that episode the joke(s) are all on the homophobes

time capsule: Norm is terrified that if Sam allows homos in, the bar might get ferns next.

― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:25 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol tho

watch a bunch of S1 and meet us in the Cheers thread Brad!

Frasier had some good characters but all of the running plot devices wore thin really quickly, imo

we get it, Frasier's brother has the hots for their dad's therapist but he's married, whatever

Frasier is built on a farce engine, so while a lot of its lols are built on putting characters who don't change into situations where we can predict their base reaction, it's not like other US '90s sitcoms where it's just maneuvering them to say their catchphrases each week. The individual gags and verbal zings are going to be bespoke each time, and much of the pleasure comes in admiring the plotting that moves the ppl into positions of embarrassment or hubris or getting caught fucking or w/e

I started casually watching Cheers from the start a while back and remember being impressed with how much of a non-bro Sam was. Which probably can be chalked up at least in part to Danson, who's always seemed like a mensch.

yeah, mostly. there was that whole blackface thing...

(which tbf did NOT occur on Cheers, just fyi Brad)

ha, just like, don't wait for the sam malone dating whoopi goldberg episode.

anyway fwiw Best CHEERS character

The Brady Bunch was similarly a "thing" with my generation I guess.

Is the relationship between Friends and "kids today" the same as with gen x and BB? I was under the impression gen z Friends lovers are preppy/basic people ie the same people who liked it when it 1st aired, and don't view it with layer of ironic detachment like was done w BB.

yeah no self-respecting Gen Xer unironically like the BB - it was all omg look at those ugly clothes and remember that time they tried to sing lol "Johnny Bravo"

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Nike just let Kyrie Irving make this

no I don't know either

would buy if i had money and maybe was 10 years or so younger

Lorre is only redeemed by having worked on Roseanne the TMNT cartoon theme.

Did nothing result from the Friends homophobia supercut created a few years back?

Aside from the Friends tag, those sneakers are A+

grumpy observation:

I want to skip ahead like 10 years or however long it takes to where this extreme nostalgia for Friends and Frasier is over and done with

they were decent shows at the time & i mildly enjoyed them but ffs living through it once was more than enough

yeah no self-respecting Gen Xer unironically like the BB - it was all omg look at those ugly clothes and remember that time they tried to sing lol "Johnny Bravo"

― Οὖτις, Thursday, June 27, 2019 3:06 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean Friends is a little bit "omg look at those ugly clothes and remember that time they got excited to go see Hootie and the Blowfish?"

one blessing in disguise is that E.R. seems to be left behind.

wait til the Game of Thrones nostalgia sets in in 2036

i mean Friends is a little bit "omg look at those ugly clothes and remember that time they got excited to go see Hootie and the Blowfish?"

― omar little, Thursday, June 27, 2019 7:20 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you can get all of this through sabrina the teenage witch

ahah that 2 1/2 men article about the finale !
I didn't even know that show still existed.
How come they managed to go on so long after Sheen left ?
Whatever the quality of the show with Sheen, it completely relied on him so I don't understand why people who enjoyed the show kept watching it after he was kicked out...
aaah TV...

I am subtly trying to google what the anal sex jokes were on 2 and 1/2 Men while my spouse eats his cheerios next to me and I am by far only embarrassed that I am looking up 2 and 1/2 Men.

heh heh cheerios

that show was genuinely filthy

How come they managed to go on so long after Sheen left ?

I think it was a matter of realizing they still had the rest of the production, a timeslot, and eight bazillion prospective viewers that had been watching right before Sheen left. Once they made more episodes and realized people were watching -- although no one knows why -- they kept making the show, without any real understanding why other than viewers -> money -> more show

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