Best CHEERS character

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Poll Results

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Cliff Clavin ... (John Ratzenberger) 20
Lilith Sternin ... (Bebe Neuwirth) 15
Norm Peterson ... (George Wendt) 13
Ernie "Coach" Pantusso ... (Nicholas Colasanto) 9
Carla Tortelli ... (Rhea Perlman) 9
"Woody" Boyd ... (Woody Harrelson) 5
Diane Chambers ... (Shelley Long) 5
Frasier Crane ... (Kelsey Grammer) 4
Sam Malone ... (Ted Danson) 3
Rebecca Howe ... (Kirstie Alley) 2
Evan Drake ... (Tom Skerritt) 1
Robin Colcord ... (Roger Rees) 1
Paul Krapence ... (Paul Willson) 1
Al ... (Al Rosen) 1
Harry 'The Hat' Gittes ... (Harry Anderson) 1
Nick Tortelli ... (Dan Hedaya) 1
Kelly Gaines ... (Jackie Swanson) 0
Loretta Tortelli ... (Jean Kasem) 0
Eddie LeBec ... (Jay Thomas) 0
Esther Clavin ... (Frances Sternhagen) 0


WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 14:59 (seven years ago) link

Coach vs Carla vs Norm

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:00 (seven years ago) link

Norm always wins these..

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:00 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i've always been a Norm guy. i do think the show lost a lot of ~heart~ when diane left though

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:05 (seven years ago) link

woody or cliff

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:05 (seven years ago) link

never watched the coach/diane era tho

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:06 (seven years ago) link

is it true or false that Night Court happened because ppl liked Harry Anderson's Cheers appearances so much

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:07 (seven years ago) link

Woodrow Huckleberry Tiberius Boyd

mizzell, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:07 (seven years ago) link

Immediately voted for Carla but I think I underrated Cliff.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:08 (seven years ago) link

Cliff. or Woody. or Norm. or Lilith. or Carla.

some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:09 (seven years ago) link

Woody arrived at Cheers expecting to meet his "pen pal" Coach, with whom he exchanged pens instead of letters.

mizzell, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:09 (seven years ago) link

Frasier on "Cheers" was such a great character in ways that now feel distinct from the character on "Frasier"

some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:10 (seven years ago) link

glad harry the hat's included

ʘ (sic), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:12 (seven years ago) link

embarrassment of riches

ʘ (sic), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:12 (seven years ago) link

ive been watching this recently on netflix, from the beginning. i never saw much of the coach/diane years either, so it's been a pleasant surprise to discover what a gifted comedienne shelley long was. it's easy to imagine why a movie career was considered a no-brainer for her after a while, tho i guess she never found a decent vehicle aside from The Money Pit

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:13 (seven years ago) link

oh man, ppl who never saw the Coach/Diane years are REALLY missing out

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:14 (seven years ago) link

is it true or false that Night Court happened because ppl liked Harry Anderson's Cheers appearances so much

― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:07 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

i dont know but it sounds plausible!

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:14 (seven years ago) link

Night Court, according to the first season DVD, was created without comedian/magician Harry Anderson in mind, but Anderson auditioned with the claim that he was Harry Stone. Anderson had developed a following with his performances on Saturday Night Live and made several successful appearances as con man "Harry the Hat" on another NBC sitcom, Cheers.

mizzell, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:15 (seven years ago) link

I just looked it up; Night Court was already in development but Anderson basically walked into the audition after his Cheers spots and some appearances on SNL and said "fuck you, I'm Harry Stone" and the production team went "well duh, of course"

xp: well that's made me useless

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:16 (seven years ago) link

some random cable channel (Reelz i think?) runs 2 Cheers episodes every afternoon, which i've been watching and enjoying the hell out of now and again lately, although it never fails to irritate me that invariably one episode is Diane/Coach era and one is Rebecca/Woody era (i love both eras, just kinda wanna spend time on one or the other and not switch gears halfway through the hour).

some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:21 (seven years ago) link

"Cliff, with his secret!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7qWq5u2yMA&feature=player_embedded

andrew m., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:58 (seven years ago) link

Woody vs. Norm vs. Lilith

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:01 (seven years ago) link

Carla vs. Lillith vs. Nick Tortelli

trishyb, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:43 (seven years ago) link

Lilith vs Woody vs Coach

pandemic, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:45 (seven years ago) link

Cliff or Lilith.

calumerio, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:59 (seven years ago) link

decided to vote based on the reruns Reelz aired today and Woody got the biggest laughs from me. also one of the episodes featured a young Sherilyn Fenn and holy crap.

some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 17:58 (seven years ago) link

Cheers is on Netflix. This fact makes the world slightly better.

your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:09 (seven years ago) link

Nick Tortelli, because I used to do an impression of him that made a co-worker laugh so hard she peed her pants.

Bobby-fil-A (WmC), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:15 (seven years ago) link

the kid who played carla's eldest son did a pretty amusing dan hedaya impression.

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:20 (seven years ago) link

I have never seen a single minute of this show.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:22 (seven years ago) link

dan hedaya is pretty amazing

mizzell, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:23 (seven years ago) link

The thing is the Norm-Coach-Cliff-Woody characters are p much walking jokes, albeit pretty good ones, deftly played. There's more of a burden on the leads. (Rhea Perlman actually gave 3D heft to her insults, I thought)

I stopped watching when Long left so I guess that signals my choice.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:25 (seven years ago) link

My first vote would probably be for Frasier and Lilith in tandem; Woody, Cliff, Diane and Rebecca (thought they were both great in different ways), and Coach after that. Paul would say something now and again that killed me. Can't vote for two, so I guess Cliff.

Norm was funny most of the time, repetitive occasionally. Almost always found Carla a drag.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:32 (seven years ago) link

Guess I'ma be the only Rebecca vote here.

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:35 (seven years ago) link

appreciation of Rebecca clouded by Kirstie Alley becoming a walking joke in real life

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:37 (seven years ago) link

Dave Richards . . . (Fred Dryer)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:41 (seven years ago) link

Worlds colliding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxlIYukmlVw

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:41 (seven years ago) link

People, people. No mentions of Sam "Mayday" Malone. Seriously? Danson just kills on this show.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:43 (seven years ago) link

The thing is the Norm-Coach-Cliff-Woody characters are p much walking jokes, albeit pretty good ones, deftly played. There's more of a burden on the leads. (Rhea Perlman actually gave 3D heft to her insults, I thought)

I stopped watching when Long left so I guess that signals my choice.

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:25 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

i pretty much agree, which is why I'm leaning towards Diane. the sam/diane stuff could be a little forced at times, but when they got it right you couldnt tear your eyes off it.

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:44 (seven years ago) link

Dave Richards . . . (Fred Dryer)

― mookieproof, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:41 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i thought about throwing him in there but iirc he was only in like 4 episodes and i didnt think there would be any hunter stans repping

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:46 (seven years ago) link

I'm still trying to figure out what the "joke" was with Norm. Other than being a cool, nice, approachable dude who didn't want to go home to his wife.

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:47 (seven years ago) link

'there's winners and losers in this world . . . here's hoping you're one of them'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:47 (seven years ago) link

Did Cliff ever really zing Norm? They really only work as a duo, each character alone has some pull but together they're the funniest part of the show.

your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:48 (seven years ago) link

COACH: What's your most troublesome problem?
NORM: Ah, that's tough to say, Coach. Let's see. I'm overweight, unemployed, separated, depressed, starting to drink too much. Guess my biggest problem is I've never been happier.

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:52 (seven years ago) link

the joke is "fat man/little jacket"

Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:52 (seven years ago) link

lol

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:53 (seven years ago) link

my fav normism is when sam asks him what he'll have and norm goes "a reason to live - keep em comin." the audience didnt even laugh, i think they were just unsettled by it

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:54 (seven years ago) link

TBH, I probably would've voted Frasier, but the spinoff killed that joke pretty fast for me.

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:54 (seven years ago) link

but frasier on his own show was a different character!

WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:57 (seven years ago) link

i really love the one where Sam borrows Diane's first edition of the Hemingway novel. Is that s05?

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 27 April 2020 13:24 (one month ago) link

not a rejection note, a "soon and inevitably to be published" note

mark s, Monday, 27 April 2020 13:29 (one month ago) link

just struck me that cheers episodes are half-hours that are 24 minutes long and new half-hours made today are at least a couple of minutes shorter

thanks, capitalism

Tbf to capitalism, Cheers theme song intro and end credits over still image took up a good share of that time difference.

punning display, Monday, 27 April 2020 18:52 (one month ago) link

you have cause and effect the wrong way around there

donald failson (sic), Monday, 27 April 2020 18:55 (one month ago) link

Huh it's only the 6th episode into Rebecca Howe era where her mask falls, eg Norm sees her crying. In my memory that was kept up for a couple seasons.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:50 (one month ago) link

weeks lasted longer when we were kids

donald failson (sic), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:54 (one month ago) link

i blame capitalism

mark s, Monday, 27 April 2020 21:04 (one month ago) link

Thatcher surely?

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Monday, 27 April 2020 21:10 (one month ago) link

roger rees also amazingly bad and annoying in law and order

mark s, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:06 (three weeks ago) link

he is not just an employee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

j., Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:09 (three weeks ago) link

The first quarter or so of Season 6 is a real dip, you can feel them struggling to nail the new dynamic and Diane is a gigantic absence. Can't help but feel that if the internet was watching it in real time it would be declared over.

Once they realise that Rebecca is funny because she's dorky not because she's an impenetrable hard businesswoman it starts to work, but Frasier and Lilith are absolutely killing it this season.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:12 (three weeks ago) link

Also you can always tell who the writers are most interested in by who they allow the camera to follow out of the bar. They're going big on Cliff this season as well as Frasier.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:14 (three weeks ago) link

The episode where Cliff's house is about to be demolished is pretty strong. Also loved the one where Lilith buys Sam in the batchelor auction (the scary woman who purchases Woody resurfaces a few seasons later as a scary IRS official who blackmails Norm into an affair). But yeah, I feel Season Six is a fallow season - in fact, I don't really think the show hits true form again until the Sam/Rebecca/Robin Colcort triangle kicks in (sorry not sorry Mark S).

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:30 (three weeks ago) link

I disagree actually, I think it hits its stride straight after the episode with Cliff's house - from the charity auction onwards its really strong. Admittedly I'm only as far as the Christmas one but the sense of the tone being off has gone and the one-liners are still as sharp as ever.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:37 (three weeks ago) link

Vera appeared, except with her face covered in pie or something like that.

I woke up early the other day and turned on the TV and this episode was just finishing. They were having Thanksgiving's at Carla's(?) house and there's a massive food fight but then they're all friends again and Norm wants to introduce them to Vera but a giddy Diane says, "Who's for dessert?" and picks up a chocolate cake or something and throws it, hitting Vera full in the face just as she's walking through the door.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:41 (three weeks ago) link

coldcord is unwatchable which is a pity bcz the writing was good at this point and the idea of the triangle unimpeachable

sadly they hired the useless and terrible roger rees who punches unfunny holes in the otherwise good stuff

mark s, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:53 (three weeks ago) link

I've reached S11 (that's the final season, iirc?). Carla deciding to leave Cheers for more money at the neon-laden chain bar was genuisly reversed by meeting her new trainee.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 May 2020 05:00 (two weeks ago) link

I love that episode so much. Mr Pubs!

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 7 May 2020 06:57 (two weeks ago) link

cliff’s veggie garden gag making a glorious comeback in s07e19 via the beet-a-baga fajita-in-a-pita, “that little taste of cairo,” is supreme.

budo jeru, Thursday, 7 May 2020 08:21 (two weeks ago) link

I love the vegetables running gag so much.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 May 2020 08:46 (two weeks ago) link

series 11 is incredibly strong, with the ensemble really keeping the show fresh

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 7 May 2020 09:47 (two weeks ago) link

Zero vote for Eddie LeBec OTM by the way, just not very funny at all.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:42 (two weeks ago) link

yeah, huge misfire there

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:46 (two weeks ago) link

eddie's got heart, i always like it when he shows up.

budo jeru, Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:19 (two weeks ago) link

Watching much slower than the rest of you, apparently, but the big revelation for me yesterday was that there used to be a different guy named "Paul" who sat in future Paul's spot

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 7 May 2020 23:35 (two weeks ago) link

you're biased

j., Thursday, 7 May 2020 23:39 (two weeks ago) link

yes season 1 has a different Paul from the guy who eventually became Paul:
The character was first called Paul in season four. In his first appearance, in season 1, Coach calls Paul's character "Glenn" (confusingly, the credits identify the character as "Gregg"), and in another early appearance, he is credited as "Tom", although this name is not spoken aloud in the episode. Towards the end of the series' run, a reference by Paul that he's been drinking at Cheers for 10 years makes it plausible that Coach had mistaken his name in his first appearance 10 years prior, and that "Glenn" and Paul are meant to be one and the same person.

mizzell, Thursday, 7 May 2020 23:42 (two weeks ago) link

I remember Paul being a much more prominent character in later seasons, as it stands he's barely even a character and much less prominent than other rotating regulars like Al or the hopeless lawyer guy.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 May 2020 10:48 (two weeks ago) link

civil servants
stamps from around the world
mothers and sons
beer
bar trivia
celibacy

budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 11:00 (two weeks ago) link

lmao

budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 11:00 (two weeks ago) link

"Seriously... Drink-driving. What's up with that?"

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:47 (two weeks ago) link

the spontaneous "we will rock you" moment that opens s08e18 is SO good

budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 20:44 (two weeks ago) link

isn’t it great? it’s also the only time i can recall close-ups of anything at all in this show. they never go in tighter than a head-to-waist shot (unless it’s a one-shot of norm at the bar, in which case there are always people milling about behind him).

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 14 May 2020 08:00 (one week ago) link

How are you all blazing through so fast? OK, maybe stupid question, but I'm still on S2 despite sheltering in place. I find I can only binge 3-4 episodes at a time

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 14 May 2020 10:34 (one week ago) link

we’re smashing out 20–30 episodes a week (watching s09e09 right now)

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 14 May 2020 10:56 (one week ago) link

ooh, hill just introduced himself

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 14 May 2020 10:57 (one week ago) link

Finished season 6 last night and the closing run of episodes is so great. The whole season really works as an extended excercise in knocking Sam off his pedestal.

Rebecca is crucial in that, because Sam is an alpha male by the standards of the dudes in the bar, and also by the standards of the eggheads that Diane knows, but absolutely not by Rebecca's standards (the business elite of Boston).

Also Danson was clearly getting older and the scripts needed to reflect that.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 May 2020 11:10 (one week ago) link

took a break at the beginning of season 5 bc im not ready to say goodbye to Dianne.

I’m definitely in the thick of when I started watching in real time though. It’s pretty wild in the way smells can trigger memories, apparently so can Sam’s blousy collarless um henleys?

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 14 May 2020 14:36 (one week ago) link

close-ups of anything at all in this show

this caught my attention for sure. it was kinda cool to "experience" the bar in a more intimate way.

i also kept expecting somebody to burst in with a wisecrack. when nobody did and the credits just started to play it made it even funnier.

budo jeru, Thursday, 14 May 2020 15:59 (one week ago) link

Another low-key running gag I love is Woody writing the Cheers Newsletter for no reason whatsoever.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 May 2020 16:12 (one week ago) link

cheers-era kirstie alley is my current crush btw

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 14 May 2020 22:34 (one week ago) link

Another low-key running gag I love is Woody writing the Cheers Newsletter for no reason whatsoever.

the show is full of gorgeous stuff like this, e.g. rebecca rifling through a box of receipts but never achieving anything (iirc they call her out for this towards the end)

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 14 May 2020 22:36 (one week ago) link

just watched the s02 one where diane teaches andy the murderer to act and they do othello. it's basically perfect

i love it! a desdemona who fights back!

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:14 (one week ago) link

I think that might be the best episode of all of them.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 09:09 (one week ago) link

ooh, hill just introduced himself

"oh Sa-aam"

Ste, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:42 (one week ago) link

the effect hill has on sam is glorious, and gives danson an excuse to unleash some of his best comic and physical acting. he really lights up the screen. we’re in the same series now and it’s a joy to watch.

form of mouth device (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 May 2020 09:22 (six days ago) link

we’ve just hit the daffy-nitions episode

form of mouth device (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 May 2020 09:41 (five days ago) link

What's up with that?

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 22 May 2020 13:22 (five days ago) link

I was up early this morning and saw a good Lilith episode (be still my beating heart).

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 13:34 (five days ago) link


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