This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2018

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all 3 principals in Burning seemed like concepts, not characters, tho i found much to like in it.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

did Western get US release this year? will certainly be high on my list. still have reservations about Asako i & ii, but none have stuck with me more; looking forward to hearing people thoughts.

devvvine, Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

It did, and it was an oversight by me not to mention it!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

If i was still voting in a critics' group, I would give some consideration to Gary Graver's cinematography for the Welles film.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

Wait, which one did you vote in before?

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

If you're talking about the same one I'm still in, it's like impossible to get kicked out of it.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

I quit. It seemed honorable as I was no longer writing.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link

you mean the OFCS? I quit for the same reason as Morbs but the reply-all squabbling ended up making it satisfying to do so

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

Claire's Camera
Ava
Zama
Winter Brothers
First Reformed
You Were Never Really Here
Let the Sunshine In
The Guardians
Support the Girls
Museo

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

whoops -- I meant Sorry to Bother You

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

me : YWNRH :: Soto : Roma

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

actually looking over my list I really loved all of these:

1. Let the Sunshine In
2. 24 Frames
3. You Were Never Really Here
4. First Reformed
5. Wobble Palace

if the next few months don't disappoint, might not be as dire a year as I thought

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

I've liked or loved most of the Kiarostamis I've seen, but I confess 24 Frames flew right over my head. don't understand the appeal at all

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

Paddington 2 is from 2017 in my book, but if it came out somewhere in 2018, it's definitely among the best of that year.

the bear film was US 2018, because Weinsteins: when Harvey finally went under investigation, Bob scrambled to sell it elsewhere so it wouldn't go down with the ship

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

Put me in a trance. I also realize on a different day, it could've put me to sleep. xp

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

Not a bad thing sometimes, as I learned from Hou and Tsai.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

I'd have loved a trance; I found myself calculating remaining runtime

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

yeah, and having said all that, it's still my least favorite Kiarostami (of the ~10 I've seen).

Best video store rental so far has been TEN. the DVD includes 10 ON TEN, which is just 80 minutes of film school from Kiarostami himself in a car. Fucking incredible, both of them. Saw they didn't get any votes in the recent poll, not sure how obscure those films are.

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 November 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

and for what it's worth, Claire's Camera really, really bored me. maybe on a different day...

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 November 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

I quit. It seemed honorable as I was no longer writing.

Same, but at the same time it feels more honorable to remain as a bulwark against the Green Book demo.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

(I know, I know. It matters not.)

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

don't know how widely it's been seen but i was impressed by Cocote

devvvine, Thursday, 15 November 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

would happily join a critics' circle for elitist, embittered former OFCSers. run the poll after the OFCS' closes, and everything that wins one of their awards is disqualified

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

That wouldn't be difficult.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link

elitist and embittered sums up ILX film nerds too

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

The results from the 2017 film poll never did actually get revealed, did they.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

the real results from the 2017 film poll were the friends we didn't make along the way

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

they did! sic took over and did it in the summer

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

that bullshit horror-comedy finished #2

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

to I Cannot Stand "Chic"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

Eric posted in the results thread, but in case anyone wants to revist: Delayed Due To Projection Issues - the 2017 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

Ah right, I remember now. I think maybe there was a different movie poll that's still on ice.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

I keep thinking the first image on this thread is an animation of someone milking a cow, which I guess would be kinda appropriate for the topic.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

Independent Spirit Award Nominations -- We the Animals leads with 5 nods; Eighth Grade and First Reformed each get 4

BEST FEATURE

Eight Grade
First Reformed
If Beale Street Could Talk
Leave No Trace
You Were Never Really Here

BEST DIRECTOR

Debra Granik, LEAVE NO TRACE
Barry Jenkins, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK
Tamara Jenkins, PRIVATE LIFE
Lynne Ramsay, YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE
Paul Schrader, FIRST REFORMED

BEST FEMALE LEAD

Glenn Close, THE WIFE
Toni Collette, HEREDITARY
Elsie Fisher, EIGHTH GRADE
Regina Hall, SUPPORT THE GIRLS
Helena Howard, MADELINE’S MADELINE
Carey Mulligan, WILDLIFE

BEST MALE LEAD

John Cho, SEARCHING
Daveed Diggs, BLINDSPOTTING
Ethan Hawke, FIRST REFORMED
Christian Malheiros, SÓCRATES
Joaquin Phoenix, YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE

BEST SUPPORTING MALE

Raúl Castillo, WE THE ANIMALS
Adam Driver, BLACKKKLANSMAN
Richard E. Grant, CAN YOU EVER FORGIVE ME?
Josh Hamilton, EIGHTH GRADE
John David Washington, MONSTERS AND MEN

BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE

Kayli Carter, PRIVATE LIFE
Tyne Daly, A BREAD FACTORY
Regina King, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, LEAVE NO TRACE
J. Smith-Cameron, NANCY

BEST SCREENPLAY

Richard Glatzer (Writer/Story By), Rebecca Lenkiewicz & Wash Westmoreland, COLETTE
Nicole Holofcener & Jeff Whitty, CAN YOU EVER FORGIVE ME?
Tamara Jenkins, PRIVATE LIFE
Boots Riley, SORRY TO BOTHER YOU
Paul Schrader FIRST REFORMED

BEST DOCUMENTARY

HALE COUNTY THIS MORNING, THIS EVENING
MINDING THE GAP
OF FATHERS AND SONS
ON HER SHOULDERS
SHIRKERS
WON’T YOU BE MY NEIGHBOR?

BEST INTERNATIONAL FILM

BURNING (South Korea)
THE FAVOURITE (United Kingdom)
HAPPY AS LAZZARO (Italy)
ROMA (Mexico)
SHOPLIFTERS (Japan)

BEST FIRST FEATURE

HEREDITARY
SORRY TO BOTHER YOU
THE TALE
WE THE ANIMALS
WILDLIFE

BEST FIRST SCREENPLAY

Bo Burnham, EIGHTH GRADE
Christina Choe, NANCY
Cory Finley, THOROUGHBREDS
Jennifer Fox, THE TALE
Quinn Shephard (Writer/Story By) and Laurie Shephard (Story By), BLAME

BEST EDITING

Joe Bini, YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE
Keiko Deguchi, Brian A. Kates & Jeremiah Zagar, WE THE ANIMALS
Luke Dunkley, Nick Fenton, Chris Gill & Julian Hart, AMERICAN ANIMALS
Anne Fabini, Alex Hall and Gary Levy, THE TALE
Nick Houy, MID90S

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY

Ashley Connor, MADELINE’S MADELINE
Diego Garcia, WILDLIFE
Benjamin Loeb, MANDY
Sayombhu Mukdeeprom, SUSPIRIA
Zak Mulligan, WE THE ANIMALS

JOHN CASSAVETES AWARD

A BREAD FACTORY
EN EL SÉPTIMO DÍA
NEVER GOIN’ BACK
SÓCRATES
THUNDER ROAD

BONNIE AWARD

Debra Granik
Tamara Jenkins
Karyn Kusama

ROBERT ALTMAN AWARD

SUSPIRIA

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

McCarthy didn't get mentioned eh

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 November 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

She should've.

On the other hand, what is so special about Support the Girls? sure, Regina Hall was fine, but there was nothing there. fwiw I hated that guy's last movie Computer Chess

flappy bird, Friday, 16 November 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

Madeline's Madeline got robbed :(

Frederik B, Friday, 16 November 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

Loved Computer Chess and not much else he's done.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

BEST SUPPORTING MALE

Raúl Castillo

Rowr.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

BEST INTERNATIONAL FILM

BURNING (South Korea)
THE FAVOURITE (United Kingdom)
HAPPY AS LAZZARO (Italy)
ROMA (Mexico)
SHOPLIFTERS (Japan)

Pretty hard to argue against this lineup, overall.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

Neither Elephant nor Bear in that lineup, though

Frederik B, Friday, 16 November 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link

no Transit, La Flor or Ash makes me sad

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link

I'm glad you liked Transit as much as well. One of the best films I saw at Berlin. Felt a bit tired at Ash, even though it's probably the best of the three recent big Jia Zhangke films. I miss the scrappiness a bit, though :(

Frederik B, Friday, 16 November 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

http://gothamist.com/2018/11/16/snow_storm_1.php#photo-1

I would think none of these are eligible, as they all will be released in '19.

also Frederik stfu

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

sorry, i meant neither Transit, La Flor nor Ash are 2018 releases

the IFP isn't yet rarified enough to laud films invisible to the public

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

Uh, isn't that essentially the only thing that they do?

Frederik B, Friday, 16 November 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

blow me

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

Have not seen HAPPY AS LAZZARO or SHOPLIFTERS

Look forward to hating Roma all season.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

nobody outside of a few festivals has seen ELEPHANT in this country, you clown

xp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

Look forward to hating Roma all season.

Of course it's funny - this is all
too laughable to be anything else.
You know what I think about this -
this ROMA obsession of yours - and
now this ridiculous attempt to whip
yourself up into an angry froth

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link


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