Delayed Due To Projection Issues - the 2017 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

Welcome, all, glad you could make it, and thanks for your patience.

It was a crowded field this year, with 615 votes cast for 196 films, one television series, and one installation piece.


Amongst 32 voters, seven recipients of first-place ballot positions received no further votes. The film with the most votes did not win. More people voted for Logan than for Logan Lucky, and more people voted for Graduation than for The Graduation.

The lowest score for a film voted on by two people was seven points. Two films tied for this wooden spoon.

Surprisingly few 2016 films received votes, but several have placed. Only one film from 2018 received a vote (unless it was a 2015 film of the same name from a different country), and also only one from 1983 was so honoured.

Two Netflix documentaries received votes, but as far as I can tell, everything that placed saw a cinema release.

More than one sequel has placed in the poll. Only one 8th film in a series received any votes, and that only got one.

A remake of a TV series based on a novel received one vote. A remake of a film based on a novel received 4 votes. More than one adaptation has placed, but neither remake did.

Two films based on comics by British writers received votes, and three adapting works by French cartoonists. 12 votes were cast for five films based on superhero properties not owned by their creators. Two biopics of comics authors got votes.

More than one film recurs from the 2016 poll.

Please, switch your phones off and put them in your bags. We'll be getting started in just a minute.

as long as the installation piece isn't a Twin Peaks costume party

For latecomers, here was the voting thread.

Will this be the gayest poll yet? God’s own country, bpm, ornithologist & of course cmbyn all seem likely to place, and I heard something about a bear movie

A remake of a TV series based on a novel received one vote.

This one's gonna bug me...

The other remake is beguiled right

(unless you mean "a remake of a TV MINIseries based on a novel," in which case I get it)

Oh, that’s it

I did mean miniseries.

https://i.imgur.com/jdRUhCs.jpg

49= Graduation
w/d: Cristian Mungiu
40 points, 2 votes

The new Cristian Mungiu, Graduation, is kinda not good at all, and the first time I've seen a Romanian new wave film where a lot of it seemed like mannerism :(

― Frederik B, 4 May 2017

no #50?

i voted for 20; Graduation likely wd've been in 21-25

I hope there’s a Fred B quote for every movie.

https://i.imgur.com/gaJKw7D.png

49= Double King
w/d: Felix Colgrave
40 points, 2 votes

never heard of it.

whaaa?

^ the votes are coming from inside the same house

Nice, no idea what this is

actually that one didn't have a cinema release, and is under ten minutes long. ban l0u1s jagg3r.

12 million views on youtube so that's more viewings than most films on the list!

https://i.imgur.com/k2BVtdE.jpg

49= Kedi
d: Ceyda Torun (doco)
40 points, 4 votes

Supercute! De mensen vertellen mooie verhalen, de katten doen de schattige dingen. Cute kittehz en cute hoomins in prachtig Istanbul.

― Blaka Skapoe, 9 August 2017

I completely forgot that movie that I was certain would be snubbed in the first round of Oscar doc semifinals.

The Choice of the Cat People

speaking of cat people

https://i.imgur.com/bSOUxxm.jpg

49= The Lego Batman Movie
d: Chris McKay w: Bill Finger
40 points, 2 votes

On a similar note, I recently saw "The Lego Batman Movie." It was good, but left me a bit nonplussed at how "non-canonical" a take it was... almost like "fake Batman," made by folks who are familiar with the basic Batman elements, but not interested at all in staying true to tradition. The movie's characterizations are very far afield; and it presents an alternative history of Batman that alludes to his many familiar incarnations (going back to the beginning), yet retcons Robin out of the history altogether. And while I'm no Batman purist, I found it took me out of the movie. For example - everyone in the Lego world remembers Batman in his swingin' 1960s incarnation, and a brief clip is even shown of Adam West in costume (to drive the point home); but the viewer isn't supposed remember the fact that Robin was also in the series?

I was expecting something more like the direct-to-DVD Lego Batman/Justice League movies, which have lots of humor and in-jokes, but are otherwise "standard" stories that fit well enough within the DC canon (just for a younger audience).

― morrisp, 28 June 2017

lol I’m sure it’s better in context but it’s perfect imo to use such a Comic Book Guy quote for this

criticizing this movie for being non-canonical is p weird. as with it's predecessor it conforms to a "kid plays with toys" logic that has no bearing on continuity or reality.

I watched Double King just now on the basis of this poll and I didn't enjoy it all. It's done in that flash style that I associate with faux-edgy early/mid 2000s animation, and it isn't really any fun. Good for two of you for managing to sneak something so obscure into the year-end countdown, though, I guess.

yeah it was garbage

w: Bill Finger

also lol

https://i.imgur.com/uA6pD8h.jpg

48. Raw
w/d: Julia Ducournau
41 points, 4 votes

look on the bright side: there'll be no tarantino film

xp

damn a four way tie to kick things off?

xxp ah yeah Raw, I liked it, my brother loved it though, saw it 3 or 4 times in theaters I think

Raw is vg, I appreciate that its big punchline is a direct lift from teen wolf

Raw is great

we have the first #1 vote to place coming up next

https://i.imgur.com/qz39gQ4.jpg

47. John Wick: Chapter 2
d: Chad Stahelski w: Derek Kolstad
43 points, 3 votes, 1 #1

also, i finally saw JOHN WICK: CHAPTER 2 and i didn't love it. but i didn't hate it. but i do kinda get why people like the idea of a fancy world-wide secret society of bad people who follow certain RULES. people are drawn to rules for some reason. and protocol. and ceremony. just ask game of thrones.

― scott seward, 6 February 2018

I've liked every Mungiu film. Graduation least. I removed it from my ballot at the last minute.

I absolutely loved Tales from the Golden Age, wasn't so mad about graduation.

please stop making zombie things.

https://i.imgur.com/XmVUImO.jpg

46. Thor Ragnarok
d: Taika Waititi w: Crusty Bunkers
44 points, 5 votes

https://i.imgur.com/XmVUImO.jpg

gah

This was good, not great. The humor sometimes fought with the stakes of the plot - I thought the GotG movies integrated humor better. This would have been a better movie if they just kept it on the junkyard planet and had more Goldblum, but I say that about every movie

― Vinnie, 26 October 2017

whats fucking right with you people!

let us know when the kiddie shows are done

And the kitty shows.

you're so special, voting for stuff no one else can see

Thanks for finishing this poll, sic -- fun rollout. Thanks Gukbe for starting it.

USA 28 December 2016 (limited)
ie if Bening had gotten the nod they were pursuing, you'd have voted for it last year.

My better judgement says don't ask, but I don't know what that means. One way or another, 20th Century Women was not opening in Canada until 2017.

(Sorry about posting my list here--didn't realize that other thread was up.)

one year later, Phantom Thread's release followed the same pattern. if you'd liked PT, you would not have "saved" it for next year.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5776858/releaseinfo

as they used to say on Hee Haw, that's all!

Okay. Just to clarify, though, I didn't save 20th Century Women. Checking back, I posted about it on the Last (x) Movies thread on July 17, 2017; I didn't see it until well after last year's ILX poll. I brought up the official release dates simply as reasonable justification for including it in this year's ILX poll.

you're so special, voting for stuff no one else can see

^ voted for lots of stuff no one else could see

So untrue! I could give you the list of discs, streaming etc but y'know, do it yourself.

Are you going to make the #50-infinity results available?

^ voted for lots of stuff no one else could see in 2017

We voted last week, shug.

I voted for a rabbit no one else can see

I only tallied everything that got two votes or more, but I can reveal that:

Untitled and Wonderstruck were the two that came in last with 7 points
Kong: Skull Island got 8 points
Morbs would have had to put the Spielberg at his #7 or higher for it to place, but as it was it tied with Last Jedi.
One other person would have had to put my #1 as their #15 or higher for it to place.
Five films were voted on only by the LJ/tt household bloc.

Cool there was another voter for Untitled :) Great final film.

What was the 2018 film that had the same title as a 2015 film?

once more, to "place" is to come in 3rd

thank you and goodnight

pushes up glasses

Coming in 3rd is a “show” I think

sorry! 2nd

i am tired as i got to bed late after seeing 2001: A Space Odyssey in 70mm, which is a Starchild hovering over the butt pimples that are last year's films

i don't know, i think i'm gonna continue to misuse "place"

What even is that shit, like greyhound racing arcana or something

win / place / show only refers to horse racing, so we can see how the good Doctor likes to think of art

What was the 2018 film that had the same title as a 2015 film?

Tag (USA 2018) or Tag (Japan 2015).

Let’s discuss a film’s placement in 12th place on the countdown without using the word place from now on pls

[sniffily] you can bet each way on greyhound racing, actually!

Considering changing my dn to “places”

Different places.

just ftr here, there are 2 types of each way multiple bets which might vary from bookie to bookie or be subject to you stating your own preference. Win to win - place to place and All each way - equally divided.

American track betting is pretty different i think tho calz

the independent bookies I used to work for didn't have a branch there, scuse the ignorance. I presume they something similar to the French Parimutuel thingy.

Faces Places Places, Voter Unlaces

Two films based on comics by British writers received votes, and three adapting works by French cartoonists.

What were these?

Atomic Blonde, Kingsman 2, Mutafukaz, Zombilennium and The Death Of Stalin.

golf clap

Thanks sic.

Behind the scenes secret! I preferred this Phantom Thread still, but couldn't pass up the duelling grimaces of Root and Manville in one post.

https://i.imgur.com/Nm10axt.jpg

this is such a trite morbsian false dichotomy, but even so, to engage it as if it were in fact the thrust of the matter: the disregard for whether a movie was a well or badly executed effort of or against its obvious genre classification in order to lobby for the right *type* of movie is a large element of these results

tactical voting is of course the other disgrace. amazing thing for an adult to be doing in ths context.

for an ILE poll on ILF subject matter, its all very ILM

― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Friday, July 27, 2018 12:42 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh talk about windbags

"One other person would have had to put my #1 as their #15 or higher for it to place."

sic, what was your #1? don't remember seeing it in the results thread. (and thank you so much for doing this!)

xp 😘

wow no one else voted for Wonderstruck?

I was put off by the reviews!

I did

I think I have loved every Todd Haynes film! I was disappointed he didn't make it on the 101 directors poll list

i did not love Carol, and i unloved Wonderstruck even more (the b&w silent scenes with the girl mostly excepted_

I loved Carol, easily one of my favorite movies of the decade so far. Wonderstruck was slight in comparison, but that final sequence with the stop motion animation and the model of NYC was really beautiful. I think it was my #24.

I thought Carol was great too, for me it was right up there with Velvet Goldmine and Safe

Safe > Superstar > Poison >>> Carol > Mildred Pierce > Velvet Goldmine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Far From Heaven

closer to backwards than not...

I’ve been finally watching Twin Peaks: The Return and have been reading the excellent spoiler thread along the way. I haven’t seen the whole thing yet but I’m pretty sure if I had seen it in time I would have included it on my list of favorite 2017 films! I’m glad I rewatched S1/2 and Fire Walk With Me before seeing this, it made it that much more of a thing to enjoy obsessing over

sic, what was your #1? don't remember seeing it in the results thread. (and thank you so much for doing this!)

Colossal, by Nacho Vigalondo. I was startled that this completely disappeared from cultural conversation, especially for the world of 2017. A film about medium-town America values, and a feeling of helplessness in the face of personal and world events, and especially about man-to-woman emotional manipulation and gaslighting, that also has big special effects and things being smashed. All built on a very tenuous metaphor that is nevertheless kept simple and unadorned enough to support the weight laden on it.

I had the fortune of going in knowing almost nothing about it, which really helped.

(You're welcome, Dan, and everyone else. It probably wasn't really worth staying up til 4am a couple of nights preparing, but the rollout was lots of fun, and I've got a bunch of new films to maybe watch on a television screen one day.)

Just saw Raw and The Levelling because of this thread. Loved both, especially the latter!

Finally saw Wind River. I assumed it would be on here--it was either that, or post to an Olsen Twins thread. Anyway, thought it was good. I liked Jeremy Renner in American Hustle, but I think this is the best performance I've seen by him. Elizabeth Olsen has been good in all three films I've seen her in.

There was a thread recently where there was some debate over when the year-end film poll should be. I thought it would have been here, but I guess not.

Anyway, I wanted to run a political-film poll this summer. Is is possible for the year-end to be over and done with before then?