Delayed Due To Projection Issues - the 2017 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

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Welcome, all, glad you could make it, and thanks for your patience.

It was a crowded field this year, with 615 votes cast for 196 films, one television series, and one installation piece.


Amongst 32 voters, seven recipients of first-place ballot positions received no further votes. The film with the most votes did not win. More people voted for Logan than for Logan Lucky, and more people voted for Graduation than for The Graduation.

The lowest score for a film voted on by two people was seven points. Two films tied for this wooden spoon.

Surprisingly few 2016 films received votes, but several have placed. Only one film from 2018 received a vote (unless it was a 2015 film of the same name from a different country), and also only one from 1983 was so honoured.

Two Netflix documentaries received votes, but as far as I can tell, everything that placed saw a cinema release.

More than one sequel has placed in the poll. Only one 8th film in a series received any votes, and that only got one.

A remake of a TV series based on a novel received one vote. A remake of a film based on a novel received 4 votes. More than one adaptation has placed, but neither remake did.

Two films based on comics by British writers received votes, and three adapting works by French cartoonists. 12 votes were cast for five films based on superhero properties not owned by their creators. Two biopics of comics authors got votes.

More than one film recurs from the 2016 poll.





Please, switch your phones off and put them in your bags. We'll be getting started in just a minute.

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:10 (nine months ago) Permalink

as long as the installation piece isn't a Twin Peaks costume party

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

For latecomers, here was the voting thread.

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:20 (nine months ago) Permalink

Will this be the gayest poll yet? God’s own country, bpm, ornithologist & of course cmbyn all seem likely to place, and I heard something about a bear movie

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

A remake of a TV series based on a novel received one vote.

This one's gonna bug me...

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

The other remake is beguiled right

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

(unless you mean "a remake of a TV MINIseries based on a novel," in which case I get it)

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

Oh, that’s it

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

I did mean miniseries.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/jdRUhCs.jpg

49= Graduation
w/d: Cristian Mungiu
40 points, 2 votes

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

The new Cristian Mungiu, Graduation, is kinda not good at all, and the first time I've seen a Romanian new wave film where a lot of it seemed like mannerism :(

― Frederik B, 4 May 2017

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

no #50?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:36 (nine months ago) Permalink

i voted for 20; Graduation likely wd've been in 21-25

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:36 (nine months ago) Permalink

I hope there’s a Fred B quote for every movie.

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/gaJKw7D.png

49= Double King
w/d: Felix Colgrave
40 points, 2 votes

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:41 (nine months ago) Permalink

never heard of it.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:41 (nine months ago) Permalink

whaaa?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:41 (nine months ago) Permalink

^ the votes are coming from inside the same house

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

Nice, no idea what this is

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

actually that one didn't have a cinema release, and is under ten minutes long. ban l0u1s jagg3r.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

12 million views on youtube so that's more viewings than most films on the list!

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/k2BVtdE.jpg

49= Kedi
d: Ceyda Torun (doco)
40 points, 4 votes

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:45 (nine months ago) Permalink

Supercute! De mensen vertellen mooie verhalen, de katten doen de schattige dingen. Cute kittehz en cute hoomins in prachtig Istanbul.

― Blaka Skapoe, 9 August 2017

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

I completely forgot that movie that I was certain would be snubbed in the first round of Oscar doc semifinals.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

The Choice of the Cat People

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

speaking of cat people

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/bSOUxxm.jpg

49= The Lego Batman Movie
d: Chris McKay w: Bill Finger
40 points, 2 votes

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

On a similar note, I recently saw "The Lego Batman Movie." It was good, but left me a bit nonplussed at how "non-canonical" a take it was... almost like "fake Batman," made by folks who are familiar with the basic Batman elements, but not interested at all in staying true to tradition. The movie's characterizations are very far afield; and it presents an alternative history of Batman that alludes to his many familiar incarnations (going back to the beginning), yet retcons Robin out of the history altogether. And while I'm no Batman purist, I found it took me out of the movie. For example - everyone in the Lego world remembers Batman in his swingin' 1960s incarnation, and a brief clip is even shown of Adam West in costume (to drive the point home); but the viewer isn't supposed remember the fact that Robin was also in the series?

I was expecting something more like the direct-to-DVD Lego Batman/Justice League movies, which have lots of humor and in-jokes, but are otherwise "standard" stories that fit well enough within the DC canon (just for a younger audience).

― morrisp, 28 June 2017

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol I’m sure it’s better in context but it’s perfect imo to use such a Comic Book Guy quote for this

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:55 (nine months ago) Permalink

criticizing this movie for being non-canonical is p weird. as with it's predecessor it conforms to a "kid plays with toys" logic that has no bearing on continuity or reality.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:55 (nine months ago) Permalink

I watched Double King just now on the basis of this poll and I didn't enjoy it all. It's done in that flash style that I associate with faux-edgy early/mid 2000s animation, and it isn't really any fun. Good for two of you for managing to sneak something so obscure into the year-end countdown, though, I guess.

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:58 (nine months ago) Permalink

yeah it was garbage

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:59 (nine months ago) Permalink

w: Bill Finger

also lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/uA6pD8h.jpg

48. Raw
w/d: Julia Ducournau
41 points, 4 votes

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

look on the bright side: there'll be no tarantino film

xp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:04 (nine months ago) Permalink

damn a four way tie to kick things off?

xxp ah yeah Raw, I liked it, my brother loved it though, saw it 3 or 4 times in theaters I think

flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

Raw is vg, I appreciate that its big punchline is a direct lift from teen wolf

Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:06 (nine months ago) Permalink

Raw is great

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:10 (nine months ago) Permalink

we have the first #1 vote to place coming up next

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/qz39gQ4.jpg

47. John Wick: Chapter 2
d: Chad Stahelski w: Derek Kolstad
43 points, 3 votes, 1 #1

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

also, i finally saw JOHN WICK: CHAPTER 2 and i didn't love it. but i didn't hate it. but i do kinda get why people like the idea of a fancy world-wide secret society of bad people who follow certain RULES. people are drawn to rules for some reason. and protocol. and ceremony. just ask game of thrones.

― scott seward, 6 February 2018

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

I've liked every Mungiu film. Graduation least. I removed it from my ballot at the last minute.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

I absolutely loved Tales from the Golden Age, wasn't so mad about graduation.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

please stop making zombie things.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:37 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/XmVUImO.jpg

46. Thor Ragnarok
d: Taika Waititi w: Crusty Bunkers
44 points, 5 votes

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/XmVUImO.jpg

gah

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

This was good, not great. The humor sometimes fought with the stakes of the plot - I thought the GotG movies integrated humor better. This would have been a better movie if they just kept it on the junkyard planet and had more Goldblum, but I say that about every movie

― Vinnie, 26 October 2017

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

whats fucking right with you people!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

let us know when the kiddie shows are done

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

And the kitty shows.

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:45 (nine months ago) Permalink

you're so special, voting for stuff no one else can see

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 11:17 (nine months ago) Permalink

Thanks for finishing this poll, sic -- fun rollout. Thanks Gukbe for starting it.

a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Friday, 27 July 2018 12:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

USA 28 December 2016 (limited)
ie if Bening had gotten the nod they were pursuing, you'd have voted for it last year.

My better judgement says don't ask, but I don't know what that means. One way or another, 20th Century Women was not opening in Canada until 2017.

(Sorry about posting my list here--didn't realize that other thread was up.)

clemenza, Friday, 27 July 2018 12:06 (nine months ago) Permalink

one year later, Phantom Thread's release followed the same pattern. if you'd liked PT, you would not have "saved" it for next year.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5776858/releaseinfo

as they used to say on Hee Haw, that's all!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 12:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

Okay. Just to clarify, though, I didn't save 20th Century Women. Checking back, I posted about it on the Last (x) Movies thread on July 17, 2017; I didn't see it until well after last year's ILX poll. I brought up the official release dates simply as reasonable justification for including it in this year's ILX poll.

clemenza, Friday, 27 July 2018 12:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

you're so special, voting for stuff no one else can see

^ voted for lots of stuff no one else could see

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:24 (nine months ago) Permalink

So untrue! I could give you the list of discs, streaming etc but y'know, do it yourself.

Are you going to make the #50-infinity results available?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

^ voted for lots of stuff no one else could see in 2017

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:49 (nine months ago) Permalink

We voted last week, shug.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:54 (nine months ago) Permalink

I voted for a rabbit no one else can see

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:57 (nine months ago) Permalink

I only tallied everything that got two votes or more, but I can reveal that:

Untitled and Wonderstruck were the two that came in last with 7 points
Kong: Skull Island got 8 points
Morbs would have had to put the Spielberg at his #7 or higher for it to place, but as it was it tied with Last Jedi.
One other person would have had to put my #1 as their #15 or higher for it to place.
Five films were voted on only by the LJ/tt household bloc.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

Cool there was another voter for Untitled :) Great final film.

Frederik B, Friday, 27 July 2018 17:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

What was the 2018 film that had the same title as a 2015 film?

Frederik B, Friday, 27 July 2018 17:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

once more, to "place" is to come in 3rd

thank you and goodnight

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:10 (nine months ago) Permalink

pushes up glasses

Coming in 3rd is a “show” I think

devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

sorry! 2nd

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

i am tired as i got to bed late after seeing 2001: A Space Odyssey in 70mm, which is a Starchild hovering over the butt pimples that are last year's films

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

i don't know, i think i'm gonna continue to misuse "place"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:19 (nine months ago) Permalink

What even is that shit, like greyhound racing arcana or something

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:21 (nine months ago) Permalink

win / place / show only refers to horse racing, so we can see how the good Doctor likes to think of art

What was the 2018 film that had the same title as a 2015 film?

Tag (USA 2018) or Tag (Japan 2015).

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:21 (nine months ago) Permalink

Let’s discuss a film’s placement in 12th place on the countdown without using the word place from now on pls

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

[sniffily] you can bet each way on greyhound racing, actually!

calzino, Friday, 27 July 2018 17:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

Considering changing my dn to “places”

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

Different places.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

just ftr here, there are 2 types of each way multiple bets which might vary from bookie to bookie or be subject to you stating your own preference. Win to win - place to place and All each way - equally divided.

calzino, Friday, 27 July 2018 17:34 (nine months ago) Permalink

American track betting is pretty different i think tho calz

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

the independent bookies I used to work for didn't have a branch there, scuse the ignorance. I presume they something similar to the French Parimutuel thingy.

calzino, Friday, 27 July 2018 17:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

Faces Places Places, Voter Unlaces

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

Two films based on comics by British writers received votes, and three adapting works by French cartoonists.

What were these?

tangenttangent, Saturday, 28 July 2018 07:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

Atomic Blonde, Kingsman 2, Mutafukaz, Zombilennium and The Death Of Stalin.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Saturday, 28 July 2018 08:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

golf clap

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 July 2018 09:59 (nine months ago) Permalink

Thanks sic.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 July 2018 17:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

Behind the scenes secret! I preferred this Phantom Thread still, but couldn't pass up the duelling grimaces of Root and Manville in one post.

https://i.imgur.com/Nm10axt.jpg

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:37 (nine months ago) Permalink

this is such a trite morbsian false dichotomy, but even so, to engage it as if it were in fact the thrust of the matter: the disregard for whether a movie was a well or badly executed effort of or against its obvious genre classification in order to lobby for the right *type* of movie is a large element of these results

tactical voting is of course the other disgrace. amazing thing for an adult to be doing in ths context.

for an ILE poll on ILF subject matter, its all very ILM

― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Friday, July 27, 2018 12:42 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh talk about windbags

macropuente (map), Saturday, 28 July 2018 22:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

"One other person would have had to put my #1 as their #15 or higher for it to place."

sic, what was your #1? don't remember seeing it in the results thread. (and thank you so much for doing this!)

Dan S, Saturday, 28 July 2018 22:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

xp 😘

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

wow no one else voted for Wonderstruck?

flappy bird, Monday, 30 July 2018 16:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

I was put off by the reviews!

Alba, Monday, 30 July 2018 17:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

I did

Dan S, Monday, 30 July 2018 17:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

I think I have loved every Todd Haynes film! I was disappointed he didn't make it on the 101 directors poll list

Dan S, Monday, 30 July 2018 17:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

i did not love Carol, and i unloved Wonderstruck even more (the b&w silent scenes with the girl mostly excepted_

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2018 17:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

I loved Carol, easily one of my favorite movies of the decade so far. Wonderstruck was slight in comparison, but that final sequence with the stop motion animation and the model of NYC was really beautiful. I think it was my #24.

flappy bird, Monday, 30 July 2018 17:58 (nine months ago) Permalink

I thought Carol was great too, for me it was right up there with Velvet Goldmine and Safe

Dan S, Monday, 30 July 2018 18:11 (nine months ago) Permalink

Safe > Superstar > Poison >>> Carol > Mildred Pierce > Velvet Goldmine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Far From Heaven

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 30 July 2018 18:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

closer to backwards than not...

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2018 18:22 (nine months ago) Permalink

I’ve been finally watching Twin Peaks: The Return and have been reading the excellent spoiler thread along the way. I haven’t seen the whole thing yet but I’m pretty sure if I had seen it in time I would have included it on my list of favorite 2017 films! I’m glad I rewatched S1/2 and Fire Walk With Me before seeing this, it made it that much more of a thing to enjoy obsessing over

Dan S, Monday, 30 July 2018 20:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

sic, what was your #1? don't remember seeing it in the results thread. (and thank you so much for doing this!)

Colossal, by Nacho Vigalondo. I was startled that this completely disappeared from cultural conversation, especially for the world of 2017. A film about medium-town America values, and a feeling of helplessness in the face of personal and world events, and especially about man-to-woman emotional manipulation and gaslighting, that also has big special effects and things being smashed. All built on a very tenuous metaphor that is nevertheless kept simple and unadorned enough to support the weight laden on it.

I had the fortune of going in knowing almost nothing about it, which really helped.

(You're welcome, Dan, and everyone else. It probably wasn't really worth staying up til 4am a couple of nights preparing, but the rollout was lots of fun, and I've got a bunch of new films to maybe watch on a television screen one day.)

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 23:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

Just saw Raw and The Levelling because of this thread. Loved both, especially the latter!

Cherish, Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:51 (nine months ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Finally saw Wind River. I assumed it would be on here--it was either that, or post to an Olsen Twins thread. Anyway, thought it was good. I liked Jeremy Renner in American Hustle, but I think this is the best performance I've seen by him. Elizabeth Olsen has been good in all three films I've seen her in.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 February 2019 16:37 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

There was a thread recently where there was some debate over when the year-end film poll should be. I thought it would have been here, but I guess not.

Anyway, I wanted to run a political-film poll this summer. Is is possible for the year-end to be over and done with before then?

clemenza, Thursday, 14 March 2019 02:40 (two months ago) Permalink


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