privilege as a meme

didn't know about that

I didn't know that either and I'm sure a lot of people who use SJW don't. I didn't use it much or think about its roots particularly but as soon as I saw it used as an insult in gamergate I realised it had been twisted too far to be used in anything other than a toxic way.

could've sworn i saw "social justice warrior" in tumblr about-me paragraphs before all that happened but i'm probably misremembering

i've followed r!ley since 2009 and remember when "SJW" started sprouting up, wasn't under the impression it was limited to those specific events but it wouldn't surprise me. r/TumblrInAction ("TIA") was basically reddit's introduction to That Side of tumblr (and by extension the livejournal communities that had been doing "SJ" for years ignored) and that group of black writers would get attacked there more than anyone else.

would it be callous of me to ask who r!ley is? serious q because they seem to be an important person?

i haven't followed any of this and am trying to make sense of it all but it's honestly quite confusing
what i have gathered is that "sjw" = "social justice warrior" and this is now considered an insult
beyond that idgi :-/

xp it isn't weird for you not to know. a v central figure in "SJ" tumblr before it became as huge as it is now, originally called their blog "dumbth!ngswhitepeoplesay". posted a zillion times a day and faced a lot of harassment and was unwilling to back down from a lot of opposition. posted a lot of really good dessert recipes. feel weird saying more than that about someone who isn't like... a public figure.

Cover looks kinda... I dunno? different when accompanied by list of contributors (and especially who gets top billing)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzl5m-XIQAAjjOi.jpg

Your satire is rather blunted when you repeat the same trope you're supposedly criticising.

that's hilarious

face of horror at the idea of that martin amis piece

There's got to be some kind of word for the level of not even satire hypocrisy involved with something like that.

Christ.

They forgot scatological porn and hating the proles.

Quite tempted to poll the worst white man on that cover.

had to be all white men including the 'with' section to pull that off

how to look like the ruling elf

ugh mary beard

surely baddiel worst but never read amis

SJW replaced with skeletons

http://i.imgur.com/WZmTgrH.png

where does that come from, any idea

ILAFL it looks like

x-posts: check out #SJW if you want to peep at what the "enemy" is up to. It's more entertaining than feeling like you're eavesdropping on some little twitter. WHAT is "gamer gate"?

how the fuck do we have 4 different threads featuring people asking "what is gamer gate" rn

i mean i get it and thats no shots at u I M Losted its just frustrating that their garbaggio is in half my tabs right now and all i am is a witness, can't imagine being a target

here's a primer: http://deadspin.com/the-future-of-the-culture-wars-is-here-and-its-gamerga-1646145844

#NotYourGoogle

Thanks, I was investiGATing this point as you were typing. A few observations:

-are gamers worth my time?
-weird Randoid Slavic libertarianism
is bringing out the "nativist" in me.
It's so in-American, it's turning me into a flag-waver

UN-American, I mean. Weird how these Russians are all "fuck yeah".

gamers are not worth your time

i really want to be on the right side of history re: gamergate but i can't get over my initial reaction, which is "don't play video games"

some video games are fun and all but i guess i don't get why everything has to have a 'culture.'

i thought gamergate was about who killed Roger Ebert

i don't get why everything has to have a 'culture.'

I'm sure you know the actual answer to this. Sociologists started slicing off subcultures from mainstream cultures many decades ago and, once started, this process has no clear stopping place. By now, bowling leagues and book clubs are sometimes treated as subcultures.

Politically speaking, it is especially useful to have a culture to defend, as this aligns you with the general movement for minority rights and allows you to frame the argument in terms of your oppression by outsiders. The co-option of this narrative was pioneered by opponents of affirmative action. Now it is everywhere.

Alt litgate must be super stoked bigger group of nerds snatched the spotlight

no, that lasted about as long as a controversy over alt lit was ever going to last

oh it continues, it's just back to only existing within the petri dish. and thank god.

sigh

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/realestate/a-greenwich-village-apartment-for-a-creative-soul.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1409232722000&bicmet=1419773522000&_r=1

I hadnt really read about gamergate until yesterday. Horrifying. I seriously don't understand the rape and murder threat thing but I think it should be something that carries serious legal penalty.

Maybe theres no way to do that which wouldn't implicate offhanded outbursts or whatever, but the systematic intimidation campaigns carried out by some of these men is clearly harassment at best, but seems more serious than that word implies

UK law is obviously different, but rape threats via Twitter to a feminist in the UK got two people sent to jail: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/twitter-trolls-isabella-sorley-and-john-nimmo-jailed-for-abusing-feminist-campaigner-caroline-criadoperez-9083829.html

offhanded outbursts or whatever

I seriously don't know how anyone "offhandedly" types the words "You should be raped" or anything similar. I have said some vile shit to people online, much of which I regret, and none of which I posted in any kind of "offhand" manner. Every time I did it, I carefully considered my phrasing for maximum impact. So basically, these pieces of shit should be implicated, because they know exactly what they're doing. And if they don't, they shouldn't be allowed near any form of modern technology, frankly.

I was thinking about how you'd phrase the law to differentiate these comments with the innumerable ilxors who've told me to "die in a fire" and similar

I read an article/essay earlier this year by a woman who was being stalked and sent death and rape threats on twitter and the most marked thing about trying to get law enforcement to do anything about it was that cops didn't even understand what twitter was. They kept saying things to her like, "Well just stay off-line then, what's the problem?" Iirc they didn't consider the threats credible so nothing was done. Basically they're not credible until someone actually carries them out, at which point you're dead.

Don't think these gamergate ppl are being offhanded

I'm trying to find it again but searches are full with gamergate and Brianna Wu hits.

Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

Maybe it was this one: http://skepchick.org/2013/10/why-i-dont-just-go-to-the-cops/

They told me there wasn’t much they could do because he apparently lived in another state. They offered to take down a report, but admitted that nothing would come of it unless someone one day put a bullet in my brain, at which point they’d have a pretty good lead.

Oh and this one: http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/women-arent-welcome-internet-72170/

When Time journalist Catherine Mayer reported the bomb threat lodged against her, the officers she spoke to—who thought usernames were secret codes and didn’t seem to know what an IP address was—advised her to unplug. “Not one of the officers I’ve encountered uses Twitter or understands why anyone would wish to do so,” she later wrote. “The officers were unanimous in advising me to take a break from Twitter, assuming, as many people do, that Twitter is at best a time-wasting narcotic.”

a-greenwich-village-apartment-for-a-creative-soul.html

― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 18 October 2014 01:38 (3 hours ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmiv_gWiKHo

In my experience, it's hard enough to get the police to take threats seriously when it's an actual partner threatening to take you out as well in his next suicide attempt, let alone something from a stranger in that ~crazy, not-real-life, little-understood internet thing that you could just avoid if you really wanted to not get killed~.

I thought this piece was pretty good on the difference between "online smack talk" from the memetic "go die in a fire" type stuff to the more considered purposeful angry insults; and what we talk about when we talk about "death threats":

http://secretgamergirl.tumblr.com/post/100182276170/the-routine-harassment-of-women-in-male-dominated

For example, I’m going to talk a lot about receiving death threats. An awful lot of people think they routinely receive death threats. I’ve seen it said pretty commonly that “everyone gets death threats on the internet all the time.” No. Those aren’t what I mean when I say death threats. You’re thinking of things like these, right?

"Drop dead!" "I hope you choke on a pretzel and die!" "If I ever get the chance, I am going to chop off your head and crap down the stump of your neck!"

Those aren’t death threats as I’m using the term. That’s all just smack talk. This is a death threat.

"Your name is Jane Smith. Your husband John leaves for work every day at 8 o’clock, from your white house with the crappy yellow curtains at 123 Road St. I have a long-handled sledgehammer in the back seat of my car, and when you come back from buying groceries tomorrow, I’m going to use it to bash in your skull, then use the other end to…"

(I don't agree with everything in the piece, because even smack-talk has lines (gendered and racially barbed smack talk, for example, is no longer 'just' smack talk, but we've discussed that to the death) but I think that makes a point.)

Mayer is a journalist - in media jobs, you're expected to use Twitter - it doesn't mean you have to Tweet a lot, but in a lot of jobs you'll be considered media illiterate if you don't know what kinds of things are on it.

The idea of cops using Twitter is disturbing.