Alter Ego - RFI, C/D, S/D etc.

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i am sick to death of 'rocker'. 'betty ford' is the best alter ego 12' by a zillion miles although almost anything flugel turns his hand to is amazing.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, and neither roman or jorn dj but they do play live. acid jesus live in '94 blew my mind!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry to bring this up again, if you have already seen it, but, i mp3d a coupld tracks from a 1993 dave angel set, and i thought you might be one of the people who could identify them...

they're on this thread

Rave Tapes

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I am a little sick of Rocker too. It's not as BIG a tune as its reception would have you believe. I mean electro-house for me is, much as I often love it, not quite out and out floor filling stuff. I dunno, I love "Rocker" but I prefer stuff like Jesper Dahlback's remix of that Panach reissue "Jack 2 Jack", or Tiefschwarz's mix of the Mocky or Spektrum singles, or Black Strobe's Dave Clarke mix, or a whole host of other things.

Rocker is too anthemic at the expense of rhythm and darkness, which does not work in that style for me, I am no scuzz addict, I love fluffiness but I think it's for house music.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean don't get me wrong, Rocker is good, just not tune of the year or even remotely deserving of the sort of trans-genre playlisting it seems to have been getting. Just cos it lends itself to osmosis does not mean it's right or good.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

The Outlaws played an amazing mix of Just Fuck and Rocker at Glastonbury on Friday. It was quite mindbendingly good and injected some new life into the little blighter.

Monkey Mooky, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

DEFINITELY SEARCH: the 8 miles high remix of blaze's "lovelee dae"

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

self-edit: 8MH = Jörn; Ro70 = Roman.

nope, not right!! eight miles high is also roman flugel solo.

if you are searching for acid jesus, search the "radiation EP" first.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I prefer stuff like Jesper Dahlback's remix of that Panach reissue "Jack 2 Jack"

ronan you ought to check out the lo-fi techno stuff on weatherall's old emissions audio output label. stuff like panash but also random shit like conemelt and deanne day and corridor.

similar to old sabres bangin techno, very DARK, but also very dry and lo-fi and understated and eerie and with a bit of the two lone swordsmen technical vibe too.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

DEFINITELY SEARCH: the 8 miles high remix of blaze's "lovelee dae"

love that record. to this day people run up to ask what it is.

charltonlido - i'll check out those mp3s.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link

The blackstrobe mix of rocker is utter toss. I was creaming myself at the prospect of it, but it comes off like boring prog-house.

I think Rocker is great - the DUH-DUH-DU-DUH-WEE-OOOOH bits are so jack-y and intense, and then when the melody hits it's an instinctive rush. It's wonderfully immediate dance music-more gut-level and instinctive than most tunes of the moment. Contrasted with the coaxing, gradual energy of current electrohouse and micro tunes, it's a big fat punch to the gut which is why I think it fits so well into so many different sets. For sure it'll be one of THE nostalgia dance records of '04 when the "Now that's what I call naughties dance" cds come out in a few years time...

Having said that, I'm listening to "Vincent van dance" and the schaffel-y one ("Nasty Dollars"?) off the album more than "Rocker" at the mo, as they have a little more variety in them and are better for home listening that way...

Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 1 July 2004 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

vahid's right. lesson #1 right there in never second-guessing oneself.

EAO really was the shit. what became of Dave Being? a brilliant LP (and remix LP) for Space Teddy, then ... nothing. did he ever reemerge under another name?

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks for all your help guys, a huge wealth of material to discover. I love it when a track is hardly known, but already seems to have a swelling backlash.

I guess one thing I love about 'Rocker' is the pop dynamic and the sense of restraint - the way the melody hook actually only gets used for less than 1/20th of the actual running time, teasing you and leaving you wanting more, reaching for the repeat button again and again.

Have to agree about the Blackstrobe mix, it just sounds really dreary.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link

i guess another reason i'm sick of 'rocker' is that i got given it in january so have had a lot longer to hear too much of it.

stirmonster, Thursday, 1 July 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll get back to you in November!

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 1 July 2004 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

well I think I heard "Rocker" first about two months ago, I just am sick of it coming in and people going mental. I mean it doesn't actually do anything but chug along, it's cool and funky but there's no particular part to look forward to, and structurally it really does fit its title far too much for me. verse chorus verse zzzzz.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 1 July 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

if you are searching for acid jesus, search the "radiation EP" first.

Don't. Head straight for "Interstate". Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Stephen Stockwell (Stephen Stockwell), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Ronan, maybe if YOU went mental too you'd enjoy it more...

Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 2 July 2004 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link

"Rocker" rocks. its good. but hey you can't play it all the time. I thought the Album Transformer was a bit dull though and too techno.

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Friday, 2 July 2004 06:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Jacob believe me I do go mental! Oh if you knew me, how mental I go. Even to the records I dislike. It's what undermines all my critical posturing, I always go mental to the stuff when I go out.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 2 July 2004 10:18 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
i didn't like rocker at all. however, satanic circus off the transphormer album is a cracker

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Friday, 16 July 2004 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I got to drive them around when they played at the DEMF. Impossibly nice guys... Driving around downtown Detroit while listening to classic 70s rock on the radio was a highlight. Live they do everything with hardware - real old-school VSR keyboards and drum machines and the like. Hopefully they'll come back to the States soon.

Anyway, Rocker is fantastic. Jorn said it was the closest he's ever got to the ideal punk song he wanted to record when he first started making music in his early teens.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 16 July 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

"Rocker" leaves me a bit cold actually. Maybe it's not housey enough for me.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 16 July 2004 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
To me, the main riff sounds massively similar to Rod's 'Do ya think I'm sexy', to the point where I heard it on a night out, woke up the next day, vaguely remembered it and decided that it was an instrumental version of the Revolting Cocks' cover of said song.

'Rocker' is forever entwined with the Simian/Justice track as Manchester's Club Suicide would always always mix the two in together while people literally jumped up and down with joy.

Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

the earl shilton remix had me in stitches when i first heard it!

manuel (manuel), Saturday, 22 January 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Somebody repost the bagpipe version!

Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 27 January 2005 09:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Somebody repost the bagpipe version!

-- Jacob (jwrigh...), January 27th, 2005.

!

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Thursday, 27 January 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Their first too albums are both good, I was just listening to them for the first time in ages. It's kinda funny that people these days know them only for "Rocker"... When I first heard "Rocker" I thought it must be by some other act called Alter Ego, because I hadn't heard anything of them since the mid-nineties. The self-titled debut is your basic trance/ambient house, it's a nice listen, but doesn't too much differ from other similar albums of the time. The second one is more interesting though, despite the silly title ("Decoding the Hacker Myth") it's not pretentious at all, it's a lovely-sounding mixture of soft, trancey synths, and elastic electro breaks. I don't think I've heard anything quite like it, I guess you could put it under the IDM label, but it's much smoother and less consciusly wanky than any British IDM/electro stuff I've heard.

Tuomas, Sunday, 30 September 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

um, is this as awesome as it sounds??

http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=4850

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link

that sounds totally amazing. neither of my locals have stocked the album or the single (w/ joakim remix) yet tho.

haitch, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i really like the house-y tracks on this like "chicken shag". parts of it remind me of the last mr. oizo album when it quit with all the brisk editing and fell into a groove. the tracks like "why not?" and "gary" i'm not so into. "thirld world food on the upper east side" is cool.

r1o natsume, Friday, 23 November 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link


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