can't believe ilx has no lostprophets thread

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that was xposted, obv, too.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

This fuckwit won't last a month

― veneer timber (imago), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:17 (4 minutes ago)

the prison service have to ensure his safety so he's probably going to be the most heavily segregated non-lethal detainee in the country

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

There must be a hell of a lot of people out there with Lostprophets tattoos now frantically booking laser removal treatments.

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link

But what was their perceived MO?

the skinny on them when i was at Kerrang! was that they were essentially a rock band in name but more closely resembled a boy band in operation

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

have never knowingly heard a note of their music tbh

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

"Fake Sound of Progress" was a Steve "Lammo" Lamacq fave back in the day, no doubt he's currently burning a Lostprophets t-shirt

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

I daresay there'll be a trawling for "suspicious" lyrics

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

anyone doing that is a cunt.

a beef supreme (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link

Well, I was going to say, if there were they'd be reported on by now.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link

This fuckwit won't last a month

― veneer timber (imago), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:17 (4 minutes ago)

the prison service have to ensure his safety so he's probably going to be the most heavily segregated non-lethal detainee in the country

― A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:26 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Idk Nakh, protective custody is all very well and good but it tends to work best when none of the other inmates are actually certain what the vulnerable inmates are in for. No chance of that here, every Cat A and B prisoner in the country is going to be waiting to see where this excrescence shows up.

Obviously he'll be very heavily protected but this is just such a visceral case. Remains to be seen how much cover the prison staff will actually offer him.

Tbh the women are probably gonna have it as bad, if not worse. Can't be many worse places to be than a high Category prison if you're a mother who's allowed your baby to be used as a sex toy.

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link

this is a strange sort of natural justice vs categorical imperative thing where it is vitally important that he is granted as a great a duty of care as possible but if somehow he did end up like this then nobody would give a shit

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

hopefully he just suicides

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

that all sounds fairly sensible

veneer timber (imago), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link

You'd hope they were "just" smoking meth with the baby in the room but who the fuck knows.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

gonna go & see what the Charlton forum makes of this. usually surprisingly adept at suppressing more unconsidered outbursts but I feel this might be a (possibly deserved) exception

veneer timber (imago), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

do[n't] keep us informed

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

lostprophets did an aggroangstrock cover of "Cry Me A River" that was linked on here eons ago: I'm sorry, but that Justin Timberlake track is garbage

deX! (DJP), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/26/ian-watkins-lostprophets-_0_n_4343245.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Some of the evidence was too extreme and distressing to report.

then you read some of the stuff so fuck knows how bad the stuff is they cant report.

۩, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

Mostly otm rage, a few despairing attacks on British penal policy. Nothing that really feels disproportionate. Watkins has surely claimed Worst Human Of 2013

veneer timber (imago), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

if theres a worse human than he is i dont wanna know

۩, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link

don't think the cafc end of season awards are important enough that he will get day release clearance

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link

tbh this case is so revolting I regret reviving this thread now

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

If you didn't do it, someone else would have.

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

i was on my way and Tom beat me to it

tbh the thought of likely violent outcomes for Watkins just makes me feel sadder still. i understand people's need to vent in these circumstances, but this sickness doesn't need a ceremonial sacrifice to underlie it. let him live with the life he's made for myself and let him confront it every day.

i like the jabberwock and it likes me (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

underline it, i meant

i like the jabberwock and it likes me (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

imagine being one of those groupies he filmed. more than punishment for having terrible taste.

kinder, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link

aiui those groupies were providing the guy with access to their infants? or were there other groupies involved? i don't really want to know tbh, wasn't reading the details too closely

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link

he shagged some 16-year-old girls, assume no infants involved at that point. but who tf knows.

kinder, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

there were underage groupies (16 yr olds) and then there were these first round elimination mother of the year candidates discussed in the trial.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

idk he seems to have been carrying on a fairly typical provincial ephebo rockstar teensex lifestyle at the same time as he was being a depraved psychopath

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

(16 isn't underage in Britain) (Can't believe I'm making that point on this thread)

kinder, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

these first round elimination mother of the year candidates

thank you for this

deX! (DJP), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link

xpost yes it is!

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link

Sorry strike out my last post: read it as under16 for some reason

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link

One laptop seized from Watkin's home was password protected with the password "If***kids"

http://www.nme.com/news/lostprophets/74073#C9xBlqSwPJzsEckE.99

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

why the heck did i read that? :(

space bl00ps (NickB), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/RSPXNsl.png

sex wholphin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

Well, that's certainly adding an important voice to the discourse. Cheers.

emil.y, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link

I find it hard to believe the other guys in his band had no inkling about what was going on tbh

subaltern 8 (Michael B), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

I'd hazard a guess that they knew about the usual teenage groupie fucking but probably not about the baby etc.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

As lex posted above of the person who tweeted about hearing rumors of it since she was a teenager, if there were rumors, then the band really probably knew.

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

more likely they knew the teenage groupie rumours

۩, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link

god that whodatedwho thing is one of the most depressing things i ever read on the internet. there are posts from years ago on there accusing him of similar things.

tpp, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

yeah one wonders if the police or social services were entirely unaware of this until the end of last year

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link

oh no this is just beyond words

god i wish i hadn't been curious as to why this thread had been bumped a lot for a couple days

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

M@tt we thought we were prepared for it until read the details and THIS still sticks in my mind

Some of the evidence was too extreme and distressing to report.

۩, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link

I cant remember reading a news story that has said that before.

۩, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link

would be very surprised if his penis and testicles remain attached to his body for more than a few months

sarahell, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link

i would imagine he's on 24 suicide watch for the entire time he's in jail.

۩, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link

24 hour

۩, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link


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