ughesp this
Let's Work It Out. And Order Some Dinner.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
actually all of it is the worstthe whole thingworse than groupon
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
^^ reads like a haiku
― In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 11 August 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
still insane to me that this thread went 200 posts before anyone mentioned Choire Sicha
― max, Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
did you read his book max
― lag∞n, Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
haha I posted about grubhub over here:
Sarahel's Semiotics 4U
see also: the Innocent Smoothies Aesthetic thread
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
yes
― max, Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
well
― lag∞n, Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
i liked it
― max, Monday, 12 August 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link
cool
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/11/english-has-a-new-preposition-because-internet/281601/
― Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/n_9825
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
preachin' to the Choire
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
pronounced choir situation
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
i hate that use of "because"
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link
i only like it to watch the spread of adoption
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
its the worst of thing thats kinda funny as a joke until it becomes a convention then its just dumb and useless and not funny
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
except i guess it could help on twitter because character limit
hmm i wrote worst when i meant kind interesting because freudian xp
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
The article is correct in that the new form of 'because' has become widely used and recognized, but it remains to be seen if it has any staying power.
― Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
it's insidery shorthand because people like to be part of a crowd that is so in that they use their own shorthandreading old noise board threads is good for this too, if i'm being honest
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
people who use "because" like that are monsters
― twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
real concision hedz use "ftb"
= "for to because"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link
afaics, it is merely a truncation of "because of". If it were true that all cases of the new usage would conform to traditional usage by substituting "because of" for "because", then this new use represents a very common sort of progression in American English and I'm guessing it will stick. We Americans love to truncate.
― Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
i suspect it will not make the leap from jokey voice to regular voice
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
because dumb
― a character named Daryl Wade (Clay), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
#dumb
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
i disagree, i think it's a much bigger ellipsis than that. e.g.: "i have to see this because EMOTIONS" is not short for "i have to see this because of emotions" - that's still an incomplete sentence! It's more like "i have to see this because [i have a lot of emotions related to this]/[i anticipate experiencing a lot of emotions]/[i anticipate that this is full of emotions and they are a thing i like to see]"
― thighs without a face (c sharp major), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
i.e. it is not the 'because' that is really the focus we should be looking at, it is the way the subsequent word is a distillation of a clause
― thighs without a face (c sharp major), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
So you locate the ellipsis you describe in "because" and not also in "EMOTIONS"?
― Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
that was an xp
i disagree with aimless's theory too -- it is too casual to be that widely adopted
it'll go away like the vomit in everyone's mouth went away
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
ha some people still have a lil vomit in their mouths and when you hear about it you feel a little pity because so uncool
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
so it will be thrown under the bus, you are saying?
― Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
when you hear about it you feel a little pity because so uncoolexactly -- only the too late adopters will use it and they will out themselves as deeply uncool
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
that little bit of vomit shows up on my facebook wall sometimes
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
and i'm guessing that at least 4/5 times it's a late adopter, if not 100% of the time
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
as does "best. (x). ever." (which will probably never go away unfortunately)
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
cataloguing people's language tics is why i can still find facebook useful/amusingit's like a living corpus of language in use
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
a cyber corpus
― Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
ilx too on a boring day
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
Hm, I used "because" as a preposition for the second time on ILX ever just a few hours ago (sorry LL)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 22 November 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, November 22, 2013 1:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, me too, basically.
― Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Friday, 22 November 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
http://fistintheair.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/childish-gambino-tweet.jpg
― slam dunk, Saturday, 23 November 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
oh no
― lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
i rest my case
― twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Saturday, 23 November 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
the "because internet" construction doesn't seem like a faux-naif thing to me, at least not in the way that it was discussed in this thread. dayo's observations were otm: this voice at its most characteristic is a response to the writer's awareness of their limitations -- of all the conditioning that comes to bear on their claims, as well as the impossibility of ever really stepping outside all of this stuff to talk "objectively"... the same old derridean impasses they teach every english major -- and it expresses a desire for an "innocent" subject position. culture paradoxically comes to seem alienating when one recognizes it as a "total" system. for these bloggers, becoming a cultural critic is not about their love of culture, but their fear of it. trends, phenomena, etc. need to be kept at arm's length and to do this you need to keep an eye on them. by rendering cultural phenomena visible, one can forget -- for today -- that culture itself permeates everything, has no borders, and is invisible.
people who say "because internet" are evincing a level of knowingness that is the opposite of the faux-naif blog voice. where's the anxiety? people who say this seem to think they can make generalizations about the meanings and origins of things and be correct.
― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Saturday, 23 November 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
people who say this seem to think they can make generalizations about the meanings and origins of things and be correct.
i think that it's more that they expect their readership to understand just what the ellipsis they are making would have contained - also, not "origins of things" so much as "reasons for things".
― thighs without a face (c sharp major), Saturday, 23 November 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
bored arrogance
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Saturday, 23 November 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
+ insidery
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Saturday, 23 November 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link