ILM's Now For Something Completely Different... 70s Album Poll Results! Top 100 Countdown! (Part 2)

Yeah, again, especially with this poll, you maintained a final veto over everything, AG.

One of many refreshing things about the poll is the lack of Pink Floyd, other than Animals. Was their exclusion discussed or is everyone just sick of 'em? I'm slightly surprised at least one other non-RS canon one wasn't included, like Meddle. I'm especially chuffed that The Wall, one of the most dire, tedious, overrated pieces of shit in history, wasn't even nominated. Obscured By Clouds was the only other album nominated, and it got zero votes.

I'm especially chuffed that The Wall, one of the most dire, tedious, overrated pieces of shit in history, wasn't even nominated.

― Fastnbulbous,

I like a bit of Floyd now and again but I could not agree more with this, a truly horrible album.

i've gone through various stages of getting behind and falling out with The Wall; these days, i'm still probably a fan of the lyrics and concepts, but can't bear how most of it sounds.

Mordy when are you running your non-western music poll?

One of many refreshing things about the poll is the lack of Pink Floyd, other than Animals. Was their exclusion discussed or is everyone just sick of 'em? I'm slightly surprised at least one other non-RS canon one wasn't included, like Meddle. I'm especially chuffed that The Wall, one of the most dire, tedious, overrated pieces of shit in history, wasn't even nominated. Obscured By Clouds was the only other album nominated, and it got zero votes.

They were vetoed for some obscure reason. I would have probably voted for Atom Heart Mother and Ummagumma.

after so much gubbins (ie pressure from AG !), i have now installed spotify ..
its not brilliant due to crappy wi-fi etc (mainly caused by teenkids need to stream endless loops of some diplo/mad decent show), but it does mean i can now start dipping into the recommendations of this thread.

lol i havent pressured you into anything. Not even spoke about spotify with you for months, you just always say you dont have spotify if i post spotify links on my wall.

yeah i know ... and each post made me feel more and more shyte ..
you're giving me all this excellence, and i was being a crap luddite ..

At least now you can finally hear all the good music you were missing out on!

RYM: http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Fastnbulbous/ilm_1970_1979_wtf_hard_%E2%80%98n%E2%80%99_heavy_%E2%80%98n%E2%80%99_loud___krautrock__arty__noisy__weird__funky__punky_album_poll/

Awesome work!

It wasn't 'til I was nearly done that I realized I could/should have included Spotify links. I don't use Spotify so I'm used to ignoring them, sorry.

obscured by clouds got 2 votes & I was one of them. Would have liked to see it beat animals actually. I can't really be bothered with floyd these days but I always liked that one: still in their drifting post-syd pre-moon phase but with waters just starting to find his voice (a voice that would turn out to be fucking insufferable). I know I'm alone in this, but I particularly like "free four" - the lyric is full of the same kind of sophomoric ~deep thoughts~ that would become waters's stock-in-trade ("the memories of a man in his old age are the deeds of a man in his prime", wow cool insight bro) but there's a lightness of touch that's missing from the ponderous later work. When I play the song in my head, it's always sung by eric idle - the lines "you get your chance to try/in the twinkling of an eye/80 years with luck or even less" are pure "galaxy song".

also the canaxisish world music/ambient thing of the last track is awesome

Looks like Dez Cadena of Black Flag/Misfits is onboard with many finalists in this poll!
http://louderthanwar.com/dez-cadena-black-flagmisfits-gives-us-his-top-ten-favourite-albums/

he didnt vote!

Wonder why contenderizer missed this poll

i have been a while in r'lyeh dreaming

black sabbatical

ATTENTION OHIO PLAYERS FANS!

Record Surplus has huge stacks of these new old stock Ohio Players concert programs from 1976 that they're giving away for free. They're pretty cool. I have a couple extras so if you're not in L.A. and want one send me your address and I'll send you one.

aww that woulda been cool but shipping is a bastard now

Probably not going to do a 60s version of this now btw even though I said I might in Aug/Sept. I still have poll fatigue. Maybe next year.

Added Black Sabbath catalog to the playlist:
http://open.spotify.com/user/olken2000/playlist/5sdu93N2DjKkDk0NMe6sFH

going to see if anything else got added to Spotify

After a short break, I was planning to start a thread on Psych-Prog 1968-69. I've discovered a lot of stuff from those years lately from research inspired by the poll. It could also be useful as a pre-poll campaigning thread. I do NOT volunteer to co-run a 60s poll though! ― Fastnbulbous, Friday, March 29, 2013

Better late than never!

Psych Prog 1968-72

heh dont think that 60s poll will ever happen now

stirmonster wants me to run the 60s version next year. yay or nay?

Yay. I'd hope that the end results would be a little different from the usual '60s lists.

it sure would if it was in the spirit of the 70s and 80s polls.
But we would need to decide on what gets included and excluded.

No beatles, no stones would be controversial but necessary (there was no stones or the who in the 70s poll)

Deciding on the parameters wouldnt be easy. I think if I did it it would need to be with input from stirmonster and us both making final decisions.
the 60s poll obviously couldnt just be "things that rock" like the other 2 polls.
Jazz, Modern Classical or whatever its called ,electronic or weird/avant garde or, soul would obviously get in again.

But it would not run til way into next year so there's plenty of time to worry about it.

All suggestions welcome though

Stirmonster is really keen on me doing it eventually and he loved the other 2 polls so much I'd like to run it for him.

The 80s poll was a specific vision I had that only really worked on that decade so this poll had to be modified and it became the
AKA 1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll!

the 60s will need it's own.

Got any ideas turrican?

Have you seen the 80s poll results?
The ILM 1980s Anti-Rolling Stone Canon (FREE PUSSY RIOT) Rock Poll Results - ALBUMS! Top 20! ends today

Yeah, this is what I mean... who really needs to see yet another '60s list with Revolver or Pet Sounds at the top of it? At the same time, though, there's a hell of a lot of canonical '60s albums and it'd be silly to exclude them all. I've honestly no idea at the moment of how you could approach it without covering the same old ground, but it's something that I would like to see. Obviously, the ideal outcome would be to have a list with many non-canonical albums that also happen to be good.

I mean, it'd be really shit it the outcome basically looked like RYM's all-time best albums of the '60s or something.

*if

would be silly to ban early kinks albums because of their influence on the harder rock, but its the same with the stones and the who. Love influenced punk and folk-rock and folk-rock was allowed in the 70s poll.

The Beatles im sure people would argue deserve to be in for their experimentation. But we cant just have the usual results or its pointless.

Dont know if there has ever been a proper 60s poll though

We would need to exclude Beatles, Beach Boys, Rolling Stones wouldn't we?

It would be stupid to ban Velvets, Love, Crimson though.

and then it becomes arbitrary

No Dylan. That would piss people off

I'd be all up for excluding The Beatles from a '60s poll, but the thing is you'd need to find an approach for the poll that justifies their exclusion, else I can think of at least one or two folks on here that would piss and moan about it. Likewise with The Beach Boys.

I'm thinking maybe a general "non-canonical" approach might be the way to go, therefore Pet Sounds gets excluded but you're still able to vote for, say, Smiley Smile or Wild Honey. It'd exclude Beggars Banquet or Let It Bleed, but you'd still be able to vote for, say, Between The Buttons. It'd exclude The Beatles completely.

You wouldn't be able to vote for Forever Changes, but you'd be able to vote for Love etc.

Or you can allow psychedelic and art rock but not just rock. It's too hard to decide and that's prob why the poll never happened :)

of course the real fun was in the long roll out and noone really cared about the top 10 as they were more interested in discovering new to them albums or seeing their obscure faves make it.

Just take three 60s lists from magazines (Rolling Stone, Mojo, etc) and make whatever's in their top 100/200 results ineligible. That's a good way to exclude "canonical" albums without excluding artists entirely.

there was no stones or the who in the 70s poll

"Baba O'Riley" was my #1 in the tracks poll!

I think we made an exception for tracks poll as a compromise

Just take three 60s lists from magazines (Rolling Stone, Mojo, etc) and make whatever's in their top 100/200 results ineligible. That's a good way to exclude "canonical" albums without excluding artists entirely.

Wouldnt work for these type of polls. It's not meant to be just another 60 poll, its a certain kind of sound, a harder edged poll or full on experimental or soul/funk so it would be daft to exclude 'stand' or 'trout mask replica'

im thinking that under 'psych' we could allow that one stones album for instance and clearly forever changes has to be allowed.

nothings gonna happen for 6 months anyway so plenty of time to ponder it but all suggestions welcome

was it you JF who ran a decade poll that eliminated anything that had been in the previous poll? That worked but i feel its a different spirit of poll that I have in mind for this.

I think we would have to decide on 'genres' that are allowed first.

Also just ban the beatles, beach boys, rolling stones, dylan, van morrison just because.

love, kinks etc getting in the canon is actually fairly recent so i've no probs including either of those as early kinks = hard rockin and love = psych or folk rock.
Not banning VU or Beefheart as clearly they are very much in the spirit of the poll.

so yes when it comes down to it it will be completely arbitrary and down to mine and stirmonsters whims :)

i suppose their satanic majesties request could be allowed but sgt peppers can get to fuck!