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Back in November 2009, Rise Above label owner Lee Dorrian wrote a guest article for the “150 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die” issue of Classic Rock Magazine, called "Prog Psych: The Great Lost Albums of British Rock, 1968-72." He wrote about 20 albums that inhabited what was special about the transition from 60s psychedelic rock to 70s progressive.

He talked about the growing popularity of digging into previously forgotten albums, some being reissued by small labels. Many of the albums were ironically originally issued on major labels, but were not marketed well.

So why this sudden interest? Has rock music gone so far that it doesn't know where to go next and needs to look back? There is certainly a timeless aura of freedom within the grooves of a these records that, on reflection, suggests they were made in truly exciting times. Just imagine a modern heavy metal band forming and having the balls, let alone the notion, to call themselves Fuzzy Duck? They would, of course, be absolutely ridiculed. In that respect there's an element of envy from listeners and musicians today who weren't around to experience a time when this kind of off-the-wall freedom of expression was almost as commonplace as it was acceptable...

The period of music of most interest to a number of people is the 'grey area' which occurred toward the tail-end of the 60s and continued into the beginning of the 70s. The term 'prog psych' has become synonymous with describing a multitude of bands from that era, mainly because they are neither overtly psychedelic nor full-blown progressive rock. For the purpose of this particular feature we're going to look at 20 albums released between those golden years of 1968 and 1972.

There are several areas and genres of music that records referred to as prog psych generally fall into: rock, folk, occasionally jazz and often a combination of all three. The main thing that ties these records together is that they are all considered to be underground records of the time. The purpose of this article is not necessarily to define, or even fully understand the term; that would take away an essential part of what makes its mystery and magic so alluring.

There are obviously more significant and better-known releases from this period that have had a greater influence on the history of music. The list of albums here is intended to be a selection of unique records that in many ways bridge the gap between what is considered psychedelic and progressive rock.

Off and on since 2009 I've been researching and listening to other candidates for this gray area, which I prefer to flip and call psych prog, as it better represents the flow from 60s psychedelic rock/pop to 70s progressive rock, folk and a bit of proto-metal. Some of the albums were covered in last year's poll, ILM's Now For Something Completely Different... 70s Album Poll Results! Top 100 Countdown! (Part 2)

I've been slowly sorting out a list of my own favorites, and have over 240 candidates so far. I have a rough list of 50 I'm pretty confident about (but the order is not that solid), including plenty of long-time German kosmische favorites. A bunch of others I need to spend more time with. I tend to spend a week or two listening to almost nothing but psych prog, then take a break. I mentioned in the above poll the possibility of doing a poll for this, but that's not gonna happen. And open discussion would be more interesting in this case.

Let's hear what your favorites are, additions to the list, your own interpretations of what psych prog means to you, and feedback on albums that you're checking out for the first time. I included a few post-1972 albums too.

01. Flower Travellin' Band – Satori (Atlantic/Phoenix, 1971)
02. Can – Ege Bamyasi (Spoon/Mute, 1972)
03. Stray – Stray (Transatlantic/Castle, 1970)
04. Guru Guru – Känguru (Brain/Universal, 1972)
05. Wishbone Ash – Argus (MCA, 1972)
06. High Tide – Sea Shanties (Liberty/Esoteric, 1969)
07. The Pretty Things – S.F. Sorrow (Harvest, 1968)
08. Amon Düül II – Yeti (Liberty/Revisited, 1970)
09. T2 – It'll All Work Out In Boomland (Decca/Lion, 1970)
10. Gun – Gun (Epic/Repertoire, 1968)
11. Night Sun – Mournin' (Zebra, 1972)
12. The Groundhogs – Split (UA/EMI, 1971)
13. Blackwater Park – Dirt Box (BASF/Second Battle, 1971)
14. Lucifer's Friend – Lucifer's Friend (Philips/Universal, 1970)
15. Soft Machine – Third (CBS, 1970)
16. Ash Ra Tempel – Ash Ra Tempel (Spalax, 1971)
17. Can – Tago Mago (Spoon/Mute, 1971)
18. November – En Ny Tid är Här (Sonet Grammofon, 1970)
19. Amon Düül II – Phallus Dei (Liberty/Revisited, 1969)
20. Speed, Glue & Shinki – Eve (Atlantic/Phoenix, 1971)
21. The Pretty Things – Parachute (Harvest , 1970)
22. Atomic Rooster – Death Walks Behind You (Elektra, 1970)
23. Leaf Hound – Growers Of Mushroom (Decca, 1971)
24. Twink – Think Pink (Akarma, 1970)
25. Gun – Gunsight (Epic/Repertoire, 1969)
26. Sir Lord Baltimore – Kingdom Come (Mercury, 1970)
27. Affinity – Affinity (Vertigo, 1970)
28. Faust – Faust (Recommended, 1971)
29. Procol Harum – Shine On Brightly (A&M/Salvo, 1968)
30. Andromeda – Andromeda (RCA/Repertoire, 1969)
31. November – 2:a (Sonet Grammofon, 1971)
32. Can – Monster Movie (Spoon/Mute, 1969)
33. Popol Vuh – Hosianna Mantra (Kosmische Musik/SPV, 1972)
34. Tangerine Dream – Zeit (Relativity, 1972)
35. Tangerine Dream – Electronic Meditation (Sequel, 1970)
36. Mighty Baby – Mighty Baby (Head, 1969)
37. Popol Vuh – Affenstunde (Tempel, 1970)
38. Ash Ra Tempel – Schwingungen (Spalax, 1972)
39. Trees – On The Shore (CBS, 1971)
40. Popol Vuh – In Den Gärten Pharaos (Pilz/Ohr, 1971)
41. Tractor – Tractor (Dandelion, 1972)
42. Arzachel – Arzachel (Evolution, 1969)
43. Hawkwind – Doremi Fasol Latido (UA/One Way, 1972)
44. High Tide – High Tide (Liberty/Esoteric, 1970)
45. Traffic – Traffic (Island, 1968)
46. Spooky Tooth – Spooky Two (Island, 1969)
47. Family – A Song For Me (Reprise, 1970)
48. Traffic – The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys (Island, 1971)
49. Stray – Suicide (Transatlantic/Castle, 1971)
50. Family – Music In A Doll's House (Reprise, 1968)

A.R. & Machines – Die Grüne Reise - The Green Journey (Polydor, 1971) 
A.R. & Machines – Echo (Polydor, 1972) 
Agitation Free – Malesch (Vertigo, 1972) 
Alrune Rod – Alrune Rock (Sonet, 1972) 
Alrune Rod – Alrune Rod (Sonet, 1969) 
Alrune Rod – Hej Du (Sonet, 1970) 
Amon Düül I – Pardieswarts Duul (Spalax, 1970) 
Amon Düül II – Carnival In Babylon (UA/Repertoire, 1972) 
Amon Düül II – Dance of the Lemmings (Liberty/Revisited, 1971) 
Amon Düül II – Wolf City (UA/Repertoire, 1972) 
Aquelarre – Aquelarre (Trova/Acqua, 1972) 
Arbete och Fritid – Arbete och Fritid (Sonet, 1970) 
Arcadium – Breathe A While (Middle Earth, 1969) 
Arthur Brown – The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown (Polydor, 1968) 
Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come – Galactic Zoo Dossier (Polydor/Esoteric, 1971) 
Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come – Journey (Polydor/Esoteric, 1973) 
Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come – Kingdom Come (Polydor/Esoteric, 1972) 
Atomic Rooster – Atomic Roooster (Elektra, 1970) 
Atomic Rooster – In Hearing Of Atomic Rooster (Elektra, 1971) 
Axe – Axe Music (Beck Amplification, 1969) 
Baba Scholae – Baba Scholae (Ad Vitam, 1969) 
Birth Control – Hoodoo Man (CBS/Repertoire, 1972) 
Bo Hansson – Sagan om ringen (Lord Of The Ring) (Silence/Charisma, 1970) 
Bo Hansson – Ur trollkarlens hatt (Magician's Hat) (Silence/Charisma, 1972) 
Bodkin – Bodkin (CSA/Akarma, 1972) 
Brainticket – Cottonwoodhill (Esoteric, 1971) 
Brainticket – Psychonaut (Esoteric, 1972) 
C.O.B. – Moyshe McStiff and the Tartan Lancers of the Sacred Heart (Polydor, 1972) 
Can – Soundtracks (Spoon/Mute, 1970) 
Captain Beyond – Captain Beyond (Capricorn, 1972) 
Captain Marryat – Captain Marryat (Thor/Shadoks, 1974) 
Caravan – Caravan (Verve, 1968) 
Caravan – In The Land Of The Grey & Pink (London/Some Wax, 1971) 
Circus 2000 – An Escape From a Box (Fuga dall'involucro) (Ri-Fi/Akarma, 1972) 
Circus 2000 – Circus 2000 (Ri-Fi/Akarma, 1970) 
Clear Blue Sky – Clear Blue Sky (Vertigo, 1970) 
Cluster – Cluster 71 (Philips/Captain Trip, 1971) 
Cluster – Cluster II (Brain/Revisited, 1972) 
Cold Sun – Dark Shadows (World In Sound, 1970) 
Complex – Complex (Tenth Planet, 1970) 
Comus – First Utterance (Dawn/Breathless, 1971) 
Culpeper's Orchard – Culpeper's Orchard (Polydor, 1971) 
Curved Air – Air Conditioning (WB/Repertoire, 1970) 
Curved Air – Second Album (WB/Repertoire, 1971) 
Czar – Czar (Fontana, 1970) 
D.R. Hooker – The Truth (On/P-Vine, 1972) 
Dark – Round The Edges (Machu Picchu, 1972) 
Earth & Fire – Earth & Fire (Polydor, 1970) 
Earth & Fire – Song Of The Marching Children (Polydor, 1971) 
East Of Eden – Mercator Projected (Deram, 1969) 
Fairfield Parlour – From Home To Home (Vertigo, 1970) 
Family – Entertainment (Reprise, 1969) 
Family – Fearless (Reprise, 1971) 
Far Out – Nihonjin (Denon/Phoenix, 1973) 
Felt – Felt (Nasco/Akarma, 1971) 
Flower Travellin' Band – Anywhere (Philips/Phoenix, 1971) 
Flower Travellin' Band – Made In Japan (Atlantic/Phoenix, 1972) 
Focus – Focus III (Polydor, 1972) 
Frumpy – 2 (Philips, 1971) 
Frumpy – All Will Be Changed (Philips, 1970) 
Fuzzy Duck – Fuzzy Duck (Repertoire, 1971) 
German Oak – German Oak (Witch & Warlock, 1972) 
Gila – Gila (BASF/Second Battle, 1971) 
Ginhouse – Ginhouse (Philips/Akarma, 1971) 
Goliath – Goliath (CBS/Aurora, 1970) 
Gong – Camembert Electrique (Virgin/Charly, 1971) 
Gravy Train – (A Ballad Of) A Peaceful Man (Vertigo/Repertoire, 1971) 
Gravy Train – Gravy Train (Vertigo/Repertoire, 1970) 
Groundhogs – Hogwash (United Artists, 1972) 
Group 1850 – Paradise Now (Discophon, 1969) 
Guru Guru – Hinten (Brain/Spalax, 1971) 
Guru Guru – UFO (Brain/Ohr, 1970) 
Hard Meat – Hard Meat (WB, 1969) 
Hard Meat – Through A Window (WB, 1970) 
Hawkwind – Hawkwind (UA/One Way, 1970) 
Hawkwind – In Search Of Space (UA/One Way, 1971) 
Haystacks Balboa – Haystacks Balboa (Polydor, 1970) 
Human Beast – Volume One (Deram, 1970) 
Jethro Tull – Stand (Chrysalis, 1969) 
Joy Unlimited – Schmetterlinge (Pilz/Garden Of Delights, 1971) 
Julian Jay Savarin – Waiters On The Dance (Birth/Akarma, 1971) 
Julian's Treatment – A Time Before This (Young Blood, 1970) 
Kalevela – People No Names (Finnlevy, 1972) 
Kebnekajse – Resa mot okänt mål (Silence, 1971) 
Kevin Ayers – Joy Of A Toy (BGO, 1969) 
Kevin Ayers – Whatevershebringswesing (Beat Goes On, 1971) 
King Crimson – In The Court Of The Crimson King (EG, 1969) 
King Crimson – In The Wake Of Poseidon (EG, 1970) 
King Crimson – Islands (EG, 1971) 
King Crimson – Lizard (Atlantic, 1970) 
Kraan – Kraan (Spiegelei, 1972) 
Locomotive – We Are Everything You See (Parlophone, 1969) 
Los Dug Dug's – Smog (RCA/Lion, 1972) 
Mad Curry – Mad Curry (Pirate's/Flawed Gems, 1970) 
Man – Two Ozs of Plastic With a Hole in the Middle (Pye/See For Miles, 1969) 
Máquina! – Why? (Diabolo, 1970) 
Masters Apprentices – Choice Cuts (Ascension, 1971) 
Masters Apprentices – Toast To Panama Red (Ascension, 1972) 
May Blitz – 2nd Of May (Vertigo/Akarma, 1971) 
May Blitz – May Blitz (Vertigo, 1970) 
Mecki Mark Men – Marathon (Sonet, 1971) 
Mecki Mark Men – Running In The Summer Night (Limelight, 1969) 
Message – From Books And Dreams (Bacillus, 1973) 
Mighty Baby – A Jug Of Love (Head/Sunbeam, 1971) 
Morgen – Morgen (Probe/Radioactive, 1969) 
Morly Grey – The Only Truth (Starshine/Sundazed, 1972) 
My Solid Ground – My Solid Ground (Bacillus, 1971) 
Nektar – A Tab In The Ocean (United Artists, 1972) 
Nektar – Journey To The Center Of The Eye (Bellaphon, 1971) 
Nicholas Greenwood – Cold Cuts (Kingdom, 1972) 
November – 6:e (Sonet Grammofon, 1972) 
Oberon – A Midsummer Night's Dream (Akarma, 1971) 
Out Of Focus – Four Letter Monday Afternoon (Kuckuck/Esoteric, 1972) 
Out Of Focus – Out Of Focus (Kuckuck/Esoteric, 1971) 
Out Of Focus – Wake Up! (Kuckuck/Esoteric, 1970) 
Pete Brown & Piblokto! – Things May Come and Things May Go, But the Art School Dance Goes on for Ever (Harvest/Repertoire, 1970) 
Pink Fairies – Neverneverland (Polydor, 1971) 
Pink Fairies – What A Bunch Of Sweeties (Polydor, 1972) 
Pink Floyd – A Saucerful Of Secrets (Capitol, 1968) 
Pink Floyd – Atom Heart Mother (Capitol, 1970) 
Pink Floyd – Meddle (Capitol, 1971) 
Pink Floyd – More (Capitol, 1968) 
Pink Floyd – Ummaguma (Capitol, 1969) 
Procol Harum – A Salty Dog (A&M/Salvo, 1969) 
Procol Harum – Broken Barricades (A&M, 1971) 
Pussy – Pussy Plays (Morgan Blue Town, 1969) 
Rare Bird – Rare Bird (Charisma, 1969) 
Room – Pre-Flight (Deram/Akarma, 1970) 
Sam Gopal – Escalator (Vogue/Edsel, 1969) 
Sandrose – Sandrose (Polydor, 1970) 
Savage Rose – In The Plain (Polydor, 1968) 
Savage Rose – Savage Rose (Polydor/Universal, 1968) 
Scorpions – Lonesome Crow (Brain, 1972) 
Second Hand – Death May Be Your Santa Claus (Mushroom, 1971) 
Second Hand – Reality (Polydor, 1968) 
Sir Lord Baltimore – Sir Lord Baltimore (Mercury, 1971) 
Speed, Glue & Shinki – Speed, Glue & Shinki (Atlantic/Phoenix, 1972) 
Spirit – The Twelve Dreams Of Dr. Sardonicus (Epic, 1970) 
Spooky Tooth – It's All About (Island, 1968) 
Spooky Tooth – The Last Puff (Island, 1970) 
Spooky Tooth & Pierre Henry – Ceremony (Island, 1970) 
Steel Mill – Jewels Of The Forest - Green Eyed God (Rise Above, 1972) 
Stray – Saturday Morning Pictures (Transatlantic/Castle, 1972) 
Sweet Smoke – Darkness To Light (Harvest, 1973) 
Sweet Smoke – Just A Poke (VIP/EMI, 1970) 
Tangerine Dream – Alpha Centauri (Relativity, 1971) 
Tangerine Dream – Atem (Relativity, 1972) 
The Firebirds – Light My Fire (Crown, 1969) 
The Ghost – When You're Dead - One Second (Gemini/Mellotron, 1970) 
The Gods – Genesis (Columbia, 1968) 
The Groundhogs – Thank Christ For The Bomb (UA/EMI, 1970) 
The Groundhogs – Thank Christ For The Bomb (UA/EMI, 1970) 
The Groundhogs – Who Will Save The World? (UA/EMI, 1972) 
The Human Instinct – Stoned Guitar (Air/Ascension, 1970) 
The Moody Blues – In Search of the Lost Chord (Deram, 1968) 
The Move – Looking On (Westside, 1970) 
The Move – Message From The Country (EMI/Capital, 1971) 
The Move – Shazam (Westside, 1969) 
The Nice – The Nice (Columbia/Sanctuary, 1969) 
The Norman Haines Band – Den Of Iniquity (Parlophone/Esoteric, 1971) 
The Soft Machine – The Soft Machine (MCA/Big Beat, 1968) 
The Soft Machine – Two (MCA/Big Beat, 1969) 
The Way We Live – A Candle For Judith (Dandelion, 1971) 
The Who – Tommy (MCA, 1969) 
Thundermother – Astral Navigations (Holyground, 1971) 
Tomorrow – Tomorrow (See For Miles, 1968) 
Tomorrow's Gift – Tomorrow's Gift (Second Battle, 1970) 
Träd, Grä Och Stenar – Träd, Grä Och Stenar (Silence, 1970) 
Traffic – John Barleycorn Must Die (Island, 1970) 
Trees – The Garden Of Jane Delawney (CBS, 1970) 
Twenty Sixty Six And Then – Reflections On The Future (United Artists, 1972) 
UFO – UFO 2: Flying - One Hour Space Rock (Polydor, 1971) 
Uriah Heep – Look At Yourself (Mercury/Sanctuary, 1971) 
Uriah Heep – Salisbury (Mercury/Sanctuary, 1971) 
Uriah Heep – Very 'Eavy, Very 'Umble (Mercury, 1970) 
Valhalla – Valhalla (United Artists, 1969) 
Van Der Graaf Generator – H To He, Who Am The Only One (Charisma/Blue Plate, 1970) 
Van Der Graaf Generator – Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other (Charisma/Blue Plate, 1969) 
Van Der Graaf Generator – Pawn Hearts (Charisma/Caroline, 1971) 
Warhorse – Warhorse (Vertigo, 1970) 
Weed – Weed?! (Philips/SPV, 1971) 
Wishbone Ash – Pilgrimage (MCA, 1971) 
Wishbone Ash – Wishbone Ash (MCA, 1970) 
Yes – The Yes Album (Atlantic, 1971) 
Yes – Yes (Atlantic, 1969) 

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 06:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

I'm a little shocked that the Fuzzy Duck album made that list. I didn't think anyone knew of them!

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 12:23 (8 months ago) Permalink

Graham Bond's Holy Magick/We Put Our Magick On You albums v much belong in this zone, also they slay

http://www.allmusic.com/album/holy-magick-we-put-our-magick-on-you-mw0000604249

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 12:28 (8 months ago) Permalink

The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter?

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:05 (8 months ago) Permalink

Here are some I'd put on a top 50 list that haven't been mentioned:

Faust: So Far (1972)
Aphrodite's Child: 666 (1972) - Really hits this spot pretty hard, in my opinion
Magma: Kobaia (1970) and 1001 Degrees Centigrade (1971)
Genesis: Nursery Cryme (1971)
The Nice: Ars Longa Vita Brevis (1968) - In my opinion this is way better than the 1969 album listed. I wanted to list some ELP here but they skew pretty hard towards pure prog so I don't think they'd really fit.
Maybe the first Roxy Music album? (1972)

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

yeah i'd've probably gone with Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack for the Nice

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

can't remember the name of the compilation i had as a kid, that's the ideal tbh, you really shd have "America" somewhere

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

As well as the VdGG albums listed you need Peter Hammill's Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night (1972).

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

do you not think Fool's Mate is closer to the spirit of this Psych/Prog interzone thing? for similar reasons i'm not sure H to He belongs here, some of these picks look mainly based on chronology rather than a sound imo

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

hmm personally I would say not, Fools Mate seems like a bit of a mishmash and doesn't sound much like either psych or prog to me, but ymmv. VdGG were never pure prog in my view, at least pre-split, and the three albums listed each seem to have psych elements so idk

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:43 (8 months ago) Permalink

Graham Bond is a good call though, Hammill has stated his admiration for Bond on several occasions so I wouldn't be surprised if some influence crept in there

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

you can hear that in the keyboard sound pre-breakup, sure

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

"America" wasn't on an actual Nice album though was it? Most CD copies of Davjack do have it but I've heard that several of the Ars Longa Vita Brevises have it too. Either way maybe they both fit but I wrote a blogpost suggesting that ALVB was really the first truly progressive album and there are plenty of psych elements in both the songwriting and the production. Davjack to me feels mostly like a goofball psych album with some classical stuff thrown in and "Rondo" which was basically the blueprint for ELP.

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

sorry frogs that's what i meant, to get "America" you might as well get a comp, they feel very amenable to compiling, that's how i first heard them as a teen, that way you get some of the short sharp pop-y tracks and some of the suite jamz too

rock nobster (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:02 (8 months ago) Permalink

This is a great start, thanks. I will investigate Graham Bond. I have many mixed feelings about early VDGG! They are a difficult band to categorize. This is definitely not just based on chronology, as that would open it up to thousands of options. For sure, some entries have a debatably tiny element of psych or prog.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

i try not to think too hard about the distinction between the two but i guess roughly i'd categorize Psych as both more jammy and more pop-inflected than Prog, and Prog being more constructed, especially in its long form pieces

Squidward Ka-Spel (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

sorry frogs that's what i meant, to get "America" you might as well get a comp, they feel very amenable to compiling, that's how i first heard them as a teen, that way you get some of the short sharp pop-y tracks and some of the suite jamz too

Well Ars Longa has both so if you're looking at actual albums that's probably the one to get. I do think the suite could probably be plucked and put on a comp - the "Brandenburger" section is so much better than everything else, and the first "movement" (which is basically a drum solo) is worthless. But you have to give them some leeway for being the first band to ever try something like this. I don't even know what I'd put on a comp - "America", "Rondo", the last 10 minutes of "Ars Longa", maybe "Little Arabella", and probably nothing from their post-1968 albums. Given how quickly the Nice went downhill I was rather stunned by how good the Refugee album was, the one from 1974 with Pat Moraz playing the Emerson role. I guess having some hindsight really helps.

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:23 (8 months ago) Permalink

http://www.discogs.com/Nice-The-Best-Of-The-Nice/release/2259039

this is the one i was thinking of - with "Brandenburger"!

Squidward Ka-Spel (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

Surprised that "War and Peace" got the nod over "Rondo"; the former is just kind of a blues jam, while "Rondo" to me sounds like the birth of progressive rock. And given how ELP even played the tune it's kind of surprising they skipped it. Also lol @ this:

B4 Brandenburger
Written-By – Davison*, Emerson*, Jackson*

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

1974 but what the hell:

doors meets psych meets caberet or something. great stuff:

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/MIzajvCj5jk/hqdefault.jpg

nostormo, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

nostormo, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

Spiders Will Dance (On Your Face While You Sleep) is my favorite Phantom song and title.

atom bomb, vietnam, missiles on the moon (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:14 (8 months ago) Permalink

check out Andwella's Dream. they'll remind you of that Andromeda record

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

Holy cow, I've only heard ONE of those, and it's the Mainliner album, which I remember as being nothing but a solid brick of noise.

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 19:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

those RYM genre lists made my discover some real sweet and obscure stuff lately.

nostormo, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 19:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

Yep, I've used rate your music quite a bit. A good number of those are on the list above. I'd sort psych and search for ones that mention prog also, then vice versa.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 30 January 2014 02:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

Maybe not in a top 50 list, but I think the Geronimo Black album fits in on the big list.

earlnash, Thursday, 30 January 2014 02:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

Graham Bond are decent, listened to Holy Magick and Solid Bond, both 1970. It's mostly heavy blues with some prog, don't hear any psych. Phantom's vocalist is eerily similar to Morrison, pretty good.

Gun - Gun (Epic/Repertoire, 1968)
Founded by the Gurvitz brothers, Gun started as a four pieced called The Knack. When their organ player left, they became Gun in 1968. Their first single that year "Race With The Devil" became a big hit, and started off with an orchestral arrangement, but was soon alight with some hard-edged guitar, courtesy of Adrain Gurvitz, a prodigy who was already playing professionally with Screaming Lord Sutch at just 15. The elements of heavy psych, early prog and hard rock foreshadowed the direction of countless bands, including the proto-metal of Deep Purple and Black Sabbath. The album ends with the epic 11 minute long "Take Off," packed with raging psychedelic guitar solos and even strings. The amazing Hieronymous Bosch like cover is the very first cover painted by Roger Dean, just out of college. The band released just one more album, Gunsight (1969), which was nearly as great. The brothers went on to form Three Man Army, then teamed up Cream's Ginger Baker in the Baker Gurvitz Army, which lasted three albums until 1976.

http://youtu.be/q5hP0G-7zaM

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 30 January 2014 05:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

holy shit at that phantom record. jim lives!

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:56 (8 months ago) Permalink

yeah, on Phantom and High Tide too!

nostormo, Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

off topic but it's hard not to think Jimbo's alive and well on the 'Spectrum Meets Captain Memphis' album Sonic Boom did with Jim "Dickinson"

on topicish--maybe 'Fools Meeting' by Delivery, the Carol Grimes band the Hatfield & the North dudes were in pre-Hatfield & the North?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:23 (8 months ago) Permalink

I listened to quite a bit of this type of thing thanks to the '70s poll and discovered some absolute gems - I think Fastnbulbous has already covered all my favourites, there's still a lot there I haven't got around to. I love that it exists in its own weird halfway zone - not quite prog, not quite heavy metal - and the general post-hippie downer mood of the music.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

03. Stray – Stray (Transatlantic/Castle, 1970)
09. T2 – It'll All Work Out In Boomland (Decca/Lion, 1970)
23. Leaf Hound – Growers Of Mushroom (Decca, 1971)

These were the standouts from the poll, also Pearls Before Swine's The Use of Ashes which maybe fits in here?

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

Blackfeather 'At the Mountains of Madness' (1971 aussie psych-prog) goes well with this crew too

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:50 (8 months ago) Permalink

Shame that Aztec the Aussie reissue label crashed since they were putting out some incredible stuff. Unfortunately not that Blackfeather which I would have loved a copy of. But project got announced, underway then guitarist vetoed it. The Aztec cds I have are pretty exemplary so would have been great to have that.

Has somebody started picking up the Aztec remasters and putting them out again? I think I noticed a couple of the titles that they had put out reappearing. Would be nice since they were well done.

Stevolende, Thursday, 30 January 2014 20:05 (8 months ago) Permalink

Titus Groan (1970) is totally worth your time. "Fuschia is here . . . and so . . . is love."

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 30 January 2014 21:13 (8 months ago) Permalink

Fuschia are a really good band who predated ELO with the strings as frontline instruments sound. I really love that lp, it sounds very like Sirogyra in places too. Could pass for it in several passages.

& Spirogyra put out 2 excellent lps themselves especially the last one Bells, Boots and Shambles

Stevolende, Thursday, 30 January 2014 22:06 (8 months ago) Permalink

Procol Harum -- Shine On Brightly is from 1968 and a prime example of what I'd call proto-prog.

bbboing, Friday, 31 January 2014 02:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

Yep, Shine On Brightly is #29 on my above list at the moment! I enjoyed Titus Groan, thanks. Haven't found Fuschia yet. Any particular album?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 31 January 2014 17:43 (8 months ago) Permalink

omg that gun cover is amazing!
can you suggest some of these that are particularly groovy (meaning literally drum-groovy) for me?

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Friday, 31 January 2014 18:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

obvs i know CAN/ADII -- but like that

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Friday, 31 January 2014 18:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

Fuchsia are actually spelt like that which I hadn't realised and this is the classic 70s lp
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/fuchsia/fuchsia/

I think NIghtwings who did the good reissue of the lp put out a compilation around the time they put that out and I think the band may have reformed since.

I thought the common spelling was Fuschia, learn something new every day eh?

Stevolende, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

Just found out taht all 3 lps are up on bandcamp
http://fuchsia.bandcamp.com/album/fuchsia-2

Stevolende, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

they're spelled like that (i think) in homage to a mervyn peake* character

http://www.mervynpeake.org/gormenghast/fuchsia.html

*his stuff is great to read while listening to this stuff btw

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 31 January 2014 21:48 (8 months ago) Permalink

if you like gun the Baker Gurvitz Army first record is p good (w/Ginger on drums)

avant gardener (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 31 January 2014 21:50 (8 months ago) Permalink

they're spelled like that (i think) in homage to a mervyn peake* character

http://www.mervynpeake.org/gormenghast/fuchsia.html

*his stuff is great to read while listening to this stuff btw

― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, January 31, 2014 9:48 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Funny, I was going to ask that then looked it up and that is the standard spelling. I'm assuming that that is the Gormenghast resident girl depicted on the original lp cover though.

Stevolende, Friday, 31 January 2014 22:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

I've watched that BBC documentary Prog Rock Britannia a couple of times and one thing that I did come away from it was a perspective on how the first King Crimson record had in it's time. With all of the metal and prog rock that follows it might seem obscured, that section where they are talking about those tight unison runs on 21st Century Schizoid Man was pretty much throwing down a gauntlet for at least what was possible for a rock band to do (even if there is plenty of that type of musicianship in other types of music to 1969).

earlnash, Saturday, 1 February 2014 09:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

Rag i Ryggen are pretty great Swedish Heavy prog. I would also recommend German blues/psych band Jane, the Hendrix-esque Mahogany Rush, Italian avant-proggers Museo Rosenbach, and the proto-doom fuzz of Wicked Lady. I could go on.
There I was thinking I'd almost listened to all the 60's & 70's best psychoprog bands. How very wrong I was. Currently enjoying Bo Hansson, Dark & Gun. And I am LOVING Wolf People's Fain. Fantastic vintage acid prog.

Greatjon, Saturday, 1 February 2014 16:47 (8 months ago) Permalink

Hairy Chapter, guys.

atom bomb, vietnam, missiles on the moon (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

^^^
awesome

nostormo, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

I love that their opening lines in one song are "Every certainty's a lie/reality has got to die."

atom bomb, vietnam, missiles on the moon (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:13 (8 months ago) Permalink

Also the Tentacle - Angel of Death album, which I think wasn't originally issued but is pretty much in this vein.

atom bomb, vietnam, missiles on the moon (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:14 (8 months ago) Permalink

Hairy Chpater are pre- Night Sun kinda band..less loud and proggy maybe

nostormo, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:16 (8 months ago) Permalink

Blue Phantom fit into this...?

Drugs A. Money, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

Toad, Andromeda, High Tide, Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes, Group 1850, Mu, Sensations Fix, The Litter, Matching Mole, Arzachel, Writing on the Wall, Pink Fairies, Web, Trees, Terje Rypdal, Merkin,
or something

Stevolende, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

Didn't we do two youtube threads along these lines a few years back?

atom bomb, vietnam, missiles on the moon (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:28 (8 months ago) Permalink

Looked up Hairy Chapter in RYM and saw that it's in our 70s Hard 'n' Heavy poll. Thanks for the reminder.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 2 February 2014 15:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

And I am LOVING Wolf People's Fain. Fantastic vintage acid prog. ― Greatjon

Yeah, Wolf People are definitely paying tribute to many of these bands, as you'll see below. I belatedly reviewed their album recently. Dungen, Hidden Masters, Spirits Of The Dead and to some extent Yamantaka // Sonic Titan also dip into that trough. Below are lists from some of the above. Also check out Craig Hayes' amazing three-part Aquarius Rotten series, particularly Aquarius Rotten: Über-hard and Über-heavy Meets Psychedelic Pop, Part 3.

Lee Dorian (Cathedral, Rise Above Records)
Caravan - Caravan (Verve, 1968)
The Gods - Genesis (Columbia, 1968)
Pretty Things - S.F. Sorrow (Columbia, 1968)
Pussy - Pussy Plays (Morgan Blue Town, 1969)
High Tide - Sea Shanties (Liberty, 1969)
Arzachel - Arzachel (Evolution, 1969)
Mighty Baby - Mighty Baby (Head, 1969)
East OF Eden - Mercator PRojected (Deram, 1969)
Arcadium – Breathe A While (Middle Earth, 1969)
Human Beast – Volume One (Deram, 1970)
T2 – It'll All Work Out In Boomland (Decca/Lion, 1970)
Fairfield Parlour – From Home To Home (Vertigo, 1970)
Julian's Treatment – A Time Before This (Young Blood, 1970)
Czar – Czar (Fontana, 1970)
Comus – First Utterance (Dawn/Breathless, 1971)
Fuzzy Duck – Fuzzy Duck (Repertoire, 1971)
Tractor – Tractor (Dandelion, 1972)
Second Hand – Death May Be Your Santa Claus (Mushroom, 1971)
Nicholas Greenwood – Cold Cuts (Kingdom, 1972)

Reine Fiske, Dungen
Alrune Rod – Alrune Rod (Sonet, 1969)
Mecki Mark Men - Mecki Mark Men (Sonet, 1967)
Bo Hansson – Sagan om ringen (Lord Of The Ring) (Silence/Charisma, 1970)
Circus 2000 – Circus 2000 (Ri-Fi/Akarma, 1970)
Culpeper's Orchard – Culpeper's Orchard (Polydor, 1971)
C.O.B. – Moyshe McStiff and the Tartan Lancers of the Sacred Heart (Polydor, 1972)
Comus – First Utterance (Dawn/Breathless, 1971)
Dark – Round The Edges (Machu Picchu, 1972)
Kalevela – People No Names (Finnlevy, 1972)
Popol Vuh – Hosianna Mantra (Kosmische Musik/SPV, 1972)

Wolf People
http://active-listener.blogspot.com/2013/04/wolf-people-guide-us-through-ten-albums.html
Mighty Baby – A Jug Of Love (Head/Sunbeam, 1971)
Mecki Mark Men – Running In The Summer Night (Limelight, 1969)
Joanna Newsom – Have One On Me (Drag City, 2010)
Dark – Round The Edges (Machu Picchu, 1972)
Thundermother – Astral Navigations (Holyground, 1971)
Trees – On The Shore (CBS, 1971)
Dungen – 4 (Kemado, 2008)
The Groundhogs – Thank Christ For The Bomb (UA/EMI, 1970)
Richard & Linda Thompson – I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight (Hannibal, 1974)
The Way We Live – A Candle For Judith (Dandelion, 1971)

Please feel free to share your own top 10s, 5s, 50...

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 3 February 2014 03:57 (7 months ago) Permalink

Some of Craig Hayes' selections:

Bang – Bang (Capitol, 1972)
Negative Space – Hard, Heavy, Mean & Evil (Castle, 1970)
Baby Grandmothers – Baby Grandmothers (Subliminal Sounds, 1968)
Highway Robbery – For Love Or Money (RCA, 1972)
Wicked Lady - The Axeman Cometh (Psychotic Overkill, 1969-72)
Night Sun – Mournin' (Zebra, 1972)
Tractor – Tractor (Dandelion, 1972)
Bolder Damn - Mourning (Hit/Shadow Kingdom, 1971)
Gun - Gun (Epic/Repertoire, 1968)
Steel Mill – Jewels Of The Forest - Green Eyed God (Rise Above, 1972)
Dust – Dust (Akarma, 1971)
The C.A. Quintet - Trip Thru Hell (Candy Floss, 1968)
Lucifer's Friend – Lucifer's Friend (Philips/Universal, 1970)
Leaf Hound – Growers Of Mushroom (Decca, 1971)
Les Variations - Nador (Pathe, 1970)

I'm considering these for my own top 50, or are just outside it. I got the 2006 CD reissue of Comus at the time, and picked up the Dark reissue last year, highly recommended.

Comus – First Utterance (Dawn/Breathless, 1971)
Dark – Round The Edges (Machu Picchu, 1972)
Julian's Treatment – A Time Before This (Young Blood, 1970)
Captain Beyond – Captain Beyond (Capricorn, 1972)
Goliath – Goliath (CBS/Aurora, 1970)
Birth Control – Hoodoo Man (CBS/Repertoire, 1972)
Room – Pre-Flight (Deram/Akarma, 1970)
Circus 2000 – Circus 2000 (Ri-Fi/Akarma, 1970)
Clear Blue Sky – Clear Blue Sky (Vertigo, 1970)
The Way We Live – A Candle For Judith (Dandelion, 1971)
Fairfield Parlour – From Home To Home (Vertigo, 1970)
C.A. Quintet - Trip Thru Hell (Candy Floss, 1968)
Masters Apprentices – Choice Cuts (Ascension, 1971)
Los Dug Dug's – Smog (RCA/Lion, 1972)
Mecki Mark Men – Running In The Summer Night (Limelight, 1969)
Morgen – Morgen (Probe/Radioactive, 1969)
Czar – Czar (Fontana, 1970)
Fuzzy Duck – Fuzzy Duck (Repertoire, 1971)

I've also enjoyed Kebnekajse, Pussy, Frumpy, Felt, Hard Meat, Message, Baba Scholae and Group 1850 among others, but go back and forth with how much.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 3 February 2014 04:38 (7 months ago) Permalink

Morgen – Morgen (Probe/Radioactive, 1969)
>

Had a good remaster from the original tapes by Sunbeam last year as did the s/t Dragonfly which is pretty great. I wouldn't buy the Radioactive version of anything it was possible to get any other way.

I think
Negative Space – Hard, Heavy, Mean & Evil (Castle, 1970)
is out through Rockadrome. Definitely on sale through the shop but I think it may be on their label too as is Ice Cross which came out pretty recently. They also did a great version of the s/t Sainte Anthony's Fyre which is petty essential.

Comus can be bought in their entirety, or at least 70s entirety on the Song To Comus 2cd on Sanctuary which comes with an e.p from the time of First Utterance as well as the '74 lp which is pretty different. They have reformed and are putting out new material as well as a live recording of an otherwise unreleased suite from '72.

& Dust have a recent 2fer of both lps on one cd though i can't remember who it's through.

Stevolende, Monday, 3 February 2014 11:20 (7 months ago) Permalink

great thread, thanks FnB, wow at that Spotify playlist, 60hrs of prog psych awesomeness!

Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Monday, 3 February 2014 11:45 (7 months ago) Permalink

Here are the youtube threads I was thinking of, for the record:

Let's compile a Best of 70's Doom cdr...

Let's compile a Best of 70's Doom cdr... Part II

atom bomb, vietnam, missiles on the moon (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 3 February 2014 11:50 (7 months ago) Permalink

Also Fraction's "Moon Blood" album. Sounds like The Doors going prog, with "Come Out of Her" being pretty apocalyptic.

atom bomb, vietnam, missiles on the moon (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 3 February 2014 12:04 (7 months ago) Permalink

Great thread, keep it going! Wish I had more to contribute, but it seems like you guys have already outpaced me.

I did pick up Speed, Glue & Shinki's Eve today, thanks to this thread.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:10 (7 months ago) Permalink

Blue Phantom fit into this...? ― Drugs A. Money

Definitely! They're one of my favorites and were in my master list, but I totally forgot them here (they rank just below Arzachel at 43). For some reason I thought I read they were French musicians but was released on an Italian label, but here's the deal:

Blue Phantom's music was written by Armando Sciascia (under the pseudonym "H. Tical" who was renowned as an Italian film composer, editor, producer in mid-60s, and simultaneously an owner of an Italian label Vedette Records) and performed by unknown session musicians in 1971. It's original release was on Spider Records, which was a subsidiary of Sciascia's own Vedette Records label. It was also released as a "library record" by Sonimage under the name Distortion Pop. Songs from the album were featured on "Sinner: Diary of a Nymphomaniac", directed by Jess Franco in 1972 among other films. It was out of print until Italian independent label AMS reissued this album in 2008. The concise, instrumental heavy psych/prog symphonies are dissonant, menacing and in large doses disturbing, suggestive of trips gone awry.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 8 February 2014 17:27 (7 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I like that album a lot but "disturbing" might be overselling it a little. Except Distillation is pretty crazy. It's definitely better than Ugly Custard, Hell Preachers Inc, etc.

Bell, ball, bone, boot. No surprises. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 8 February 2014 19:57 (7 months ago) Permalink

Is the Goldenrod album prog enough to bear mentioning in this thread?

Bell, ball, bone, boot. No surprises. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 8 February 2014 19:58 (7 months ago) Permalink

I've been digging the Tear Gas self titled & Piggie Go Getter records lately ... Not seeing those mentioned above ... Give em a spin!

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 8 February 2014 20:02 (7 months ago) Permalink

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 13 February 2014 20:12 (7 months ago) Permalink

"And my TEETH
And my TEETH
They're all tombstones
They're all tombstones"

One of two songs on "Retribution" that kinda qualifies for this thread.

Bell, ball, bone, boot. No surprises. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 15 February 2014 21:14 (7 months ago) Permalink

I just got Colosseum's record "The Grass Is Greener" a week ago. That's a pretty good record, probably more in the heavy blues/jazz axis than really prog at this point, but they do have some interesting arrangements. They were a real good band of players, very tight.

earlnash, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 00:52 (7 months ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

I'm reading Pete Townsend's great bio, Who I Am. Recommended. While most rock stars of that were too consumed with their own dramas to pay attention to what most of the lesser bands were doing, there are some references to Townsend having some clue, having gotten Arthur Brown signed to a deal and writing a positive review of the first King Crimson album. I think I'll still stand by calling Tommy a psych prog album. And while I wouldn't change the big anthemic singles from Who's Next, I think it would have satisfied Townsend's ideas for Lifehouse better if it had been done as more of a psych prog project.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 4 July 2014 13:00 (2 months ago) Permalink

In fact, the musical world would have been much improved if, say, The Beatles went more in that direction after Abbey Road instead of the bare-bones with strings Let It Be (I figure it would be sacrilege to fuck with AR) and ditto for Dylan instead of his country Americana phase. And maybe even The Grateful Dead, though I'd probably still hate whatever they did. I blame The Band for everything.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 4 July 2014 13:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

great thread! thats the wrong felt in yr spotify playlist btw

Crackle Box, Friday, 4 July 2014 16:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

Aphrodite's Child: 666 (1972) - Really hits this spot pretty hard, in my opinion

Yes!

kornrulez6969, Friday, 4 July 2014 16:18 (2 months ago) Permalink

Just got that Townshend bio last week because it was on sale. Thanks for the rec, maybe I'll find some time to read it.

Riot In #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 July 2014 16:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

Bobak Jons Malone - Motherlight is kind of a cool psych pop album sort of in the vein of the first Traffic album, though it might not quite be proggy enough to merit inclusion here

noir-ish need apply (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 4 July 2014 18:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

Hey guys gonna post the best non-666 Aphrodite's Child song right here

the asterisk is the most sensitive part of the d*ck (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 4 July 2014 22:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

"Riding on a Meadow Lea" from the Bobak, Jons, and Malone album is one of my favorite songs.

timellison, Saturday, 5 July 2014 03:14 (2 months ago) Permalink


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