Sonic Youth: Classic or Dud/S&D?

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Despite this piece I wrote, I will be voting for Washing Machine.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

obv obv obv it's Murray Street

concise
clean
o'rourke

yellow jacket (spazzmatazz), Friday, 22 March 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

obv obv it's Sonic Nurse

tones
stones
o'rourke

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 22 March 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

Don't be over optimistic - Sister will win.

the so-called socialista (dowd), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Confusion is Sex and only Confusion is Sex

Soukesian, Friday, 22 March 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

'Bad Moon Rising' is the best Sonic Youth album!

sleeve, Friday, 22 March 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

it's either sonic nurse or washing machine. Though I will be tempted to vote A Thousand Leaves, since that's mostly the album that made Sonic Youth one of my favorite bands

silverfish, Friday, 22 March 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure sister will win, and if so it would be deserved. I can't really say Nurse is an obvious or clear winner but I can call it my favorite. I love that record.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 22 March 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

A Thousand Leaves isn’t my favorite Sonic Youth album, but its super underrated.

I might be the only person who loved the A Thousand Leaves-NYC Ghosts & Flowers J. Crew era.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 22 March 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

Dunno what J. Crew means but that era is about when I was in a peak of SY fandom. I wasn't massively into NYCGAF but I saw them for the first time around then and it was a great show. I think it was around the same time they got a load of flack for playing at ATP and just playing a noise jam the whole time, but they played a regular set at the gig I was at. But I think because it was that time I would take A Thousand Leaves over the previous 2 albums no problem.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 March 2013 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

How is Chelsea Light Moving?

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

The Murray Street-Sonic Nurse-Rather Ripped era is my favorite example of bands making fantastic music into their forties and fifties.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:13 (eleven years ago) link

Yep it's a great run of records. Up there with their best stuff. It's almost perfect that they then stopped. Sad, but kinda nice. I saw them in the main room at ATP after Rather Ripped and they sounded so wonderful.

kraudive, Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:32 (eleven years ago) link

where is that 'no one album is the favorite' thread in which SY features heavily?

j., Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

these are the words, but not the truth

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

j: every one's a winner: the sonic youth syndrome

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

thanks! i wanted to point to that to say in response to

Something opened up in my brain this week that has finally allowed me to glom onto Daydream Nation. Maybe I should try to squeeze everything else in there before the poll starts.

― how's life

... that my experience was always that you couldn't just make the jump from one SY album (or period) to another. they're as second-nature to me as anything now and i still haven't cracked the last one. so i would be surprised if squeezing their career in would really work (but hey if you can swing it).

j., Saturday, 23 March 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link

i'm listening to daydream nation now for the first time in years and, even though it was never my favourite (that trajectory from age 17-24 went something like confusion is sex -> washing machine -> sister), i can't believe i've deprived myself of it for so long :'(. i forgot how 2 rock.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 23 March 2013 01:10 (eleven years ago) link

discussing the relative merits of SY's songs will be fun but lord knows we've done it with the albums to death (partially my fault obv)

Stephen Thomas Duttywine (some dude), Saturday, 23 March 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link

i'm listening to daydream nation now for the first time in years and, even though it was never my favourite (that trajectory from age 17-24 went something like confusion is sex -> washing machine -> sister), i can't believe i've deprived myself of it for so long :'(. i forgot how 2 rock.

it's becuz of where yr livin

if you never picked up the deluxe remaster (and the live version appended to it!) you TOTALLY should

j., Saturday, 23 March 2013 01:14 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't! i saw them on the daydream nation don't look back tour and about twenty seconds into teen age riot i got clunked on the side of the head hard enough that the earplug in my opposite ear popped out and got lost in a sea of feet, so i had to head to the back and spend the night with a finger in my ear. i suppose that left me with some slightly negative sentiments, which i suppose have now dissolved.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 23 March 2013 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

Daydream Nation was my first SY, and a tough entry point it seemed to me at the time. The transition from punk rock, which was still good old fashioned rock and roll, to this noisescape that referenced rock but seemingly ironically, was tough. It was intimidating, like a sonic minefield or something. "Providence" was the only track that didn't make me nervous. But then after a few months it clicked and I was on the other side and ever since then, good old fashioned rock and roll has been harder to get into.

^^^^ may contain traces of peanuts, gluten and revisionist history

I Don't Wanna Be Dissed (By Anyone But You) (WilliamC), Saturday, 23 March 2013 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

After I fell in love with Dirty in high school, a classmate copied a couple of the older albums for me. But on Daydream Nation, the tape cut off right after 'Hyperstation'. For years I wondered about the third part of the Trilogy. I was SO disappointed when I finally heard 'Eliminator Jr.' - I can't stand that song.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 23 March 2013 08:54 (eleven years ago) link

The Murray Street-Sonic Nurse-Rather Ripped era is my favorite example of bands making fantastic music into their forties and fifties.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, March 22, 2013 8:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And, relatedly, J., Lou and Murph have been doing rather well at that on their last few records.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Saturday, 23 March 2013 11:47 (eleven years ago) link

Not to mention the great new Wire.

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 23 March 2013 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

Not to mention the continuing adventures of Nomeansno.

how's life, Saturday, 23 March 2013 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

in high school DDN seemed way noisier & weird. Listening now I'm like, wtf was I so turned off by. This is RAD

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.metmuseum.org/events/programs/spectrum/street?eid=A001_%7b5F96B3AD-D976-4BDF-95DC-1653D756003E%7d_20130325102114

For anybody who's interested, Thurston Moore will be playing at the Metropolitan Museum on Monday, April 15. He provided the music for a video that I acquired for the Met and is the centerpiece of the show I curated that will be up through May 27. He will be performing in front of a projection of the video in our big auditorium...tickets are $22 each.

Iago Galdston, Monday, 25 March 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

Kim Gordon will be at the MCA in Chicago tomorrow with White/Light (who are awesome) for free.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

so who is the the girlfriend of Moore?
which is the ex of O'rourke?(!?)

all the answers, tonight at E!

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

shouldn't she be wearing pants

j., Monday, 22 April 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha imagine thurston going to marriage counseling

j., Monday, 22 April 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

only in the house
xpost

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

Why did I think that article would give any clues as to whether there would be another SY album or not.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

ha, I was hoping to read something about that as well, looking less likely now for sure.

my mental killfile seems to be working (sleeve), Monday, 22 April 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

because it's in ELLE - a serious music magazine.

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

it's sure not sounding like it.

j., Monday, 22 April 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

they could make a (good) record without Gordon (but now without Moore of course)

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

not

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Lee + Steve + Watt + Mascis album plz, Ciccone Youth 2

I know it'll never happen, but eh daydreams

Thirty-Six Views of ILX, by Mari3sa (WilliamC), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

if it will happen, it will probably be shit, so maybe it's better keep the fantasy

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

true

Thirty-Six Views of ILX, by Mari3sa (WilliamC), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

a record w/o Kim is not Sonic Youth, as they and anyone else should know

some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

OTM

my mental killfile seems to be working (sleeve), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

OTM

the Upperchest (crüt), Monday, 22 April 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

they can call it something else but at least it has the potential of being good somehow

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

you can otm how much you want, but we all know a record of Sonic Youth/whatever without Kim, will be hyped as fuck all over, even here.

nostormo, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

hey i'll check out almost anything any of them do outside the group, in any combination or individually, as i always have. if the whole band minus Kim went and did the most SY-ish thing they could under another name, though, that would leave a bad taste in my mouth.

some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link


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