Origins of the faux-naif bloggy voice?

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four months pass...

i have no idea where to put this but holy shit is this the most annoying email or what
it makes me never want to order from grubhub again

We Miss You.
Like the Deserts Miss the Rain.
Oh, hey. So this is awkward. How you been? Us? Doing great. Things are really looking up. One day at a time. Deep breaths.

Just one thing: Please come back. Since you left, we're all numb. John Mayer is deep. Nicholas Sparks is moving. And who knows how the hell all these cats got in?

Let's Work It Out. And Order Some Dinner.

But hey, if you're really gone for good, help us get a little closure. Why'd you give up on us when there were so many good times still ahead?

1. I moved away. And this long-distance delivery just isn't feasible.
2. I met someone new. They'd deliver the sun, the moon and the stars if I asked.
3. Our relationship grew too expensive for my taste. Were you ever going to treat me?
4. You screwed up a lot. I'm through giving you second chances.
5. Our relationship wasn't healthy. You made it so easy to order so many things.
6. We're just taking a break. You're still my one and only.
7. I haven't quit you. I just renewed my vows with a different account.

And that's it. Please come back.

Hasta Luego,
GrubHub

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

ugh
esp this

Let's Work It Out. And Order Some Dinner.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

actually all of it is the worst
the whole thing
worse than groupon

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link

^^ reads like a haiku

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 11 August 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link

still insane to me that this thread went 200 posts before anyone mentioned Choire Sicha

max, Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link

did you read his book max

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link

haha I posted about grubhub over here:

Sarahel's Semiotics 4U

see also: the Innocent Smoothies Aesthetic thread

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link

yes

max, Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link

well

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 August 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link

i liked it

max, Monday, 12 August 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

cool

lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/n_9825

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

preachin' to the Choire

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

pronounced choir situation

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

i hate that use of "because"

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link

i only like it to watch the spread of adoption

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

its the worst of thing thats kinda funny as a joke until it becomes a convention then its just dumb and useless and not funny

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

except i guess it could help on twitter because character limit

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

hmm i wrote worst when i meant kind interesting because freudian xp

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

The article is correct in that the new form of 'because' has become widely used and recognized, but it remains to be seen if it has any staying power.

Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

it's insidery shorthand because people like to be part of a crowd that is so in that they use their own shorthand
reading old noise board threads is good for this too, if i'm being honest

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link

people who use "because" like that are monsters

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

real concision hedz use "ftb"

= "for to because"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

afaics, it is merely a truncation of "because of". If it were true that all cases of the new usage would conform to traditional usage by substituting "because of" for "because", then this new use represents a very common sort of progression in American English and I'm guessing it will stick. We Americans love to truncate.

Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link

i suspect it will not make the leap from jokey voice to regular voice

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

because dumb

a character named Daryl Wade (Clay), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

#dumb

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link

afaics, it is merely a truncation of "because of". If it were true that all cases of the new usage would conform to traditional usage by substituting "because of" for "because", then this new use represents a very common sort of progression in American English and I'm guessing it will stick. We Americans love to truncate.

i disagree, i think it's a much bigger ellipsis than that.
e.g.: "i have to see this because EMOTIONS" is not short for "i have to see this because of emotions" - that's still an incomplete sentence! It's more like "i have to see this because [i have a lot of emotions related to this]/[i anticipate experiencing a lot of emotions]/[i anticipate that this is full of emotions and they are a thing i like to see]"

thighs without a face (c sharp major), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link

i.e. it is not the 'because' that is really the focus we should be looking at, it is the way the subsequent word is a distillation of a clause

thighs without a face (c sharp major), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

So you locate the ellipsis you describe in "because" and not also in "EMOTIONS"?

Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

that was an xp

Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

i disagree with aimless's theory too -- it is too casual to be that widely adopted

it'll go away like the vomit in everyone's mouth went away

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

ha some people still have a lil vomit in their mouths and when you hear about it you feel a little pity because so uncool

lag∞n, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

so it will be thrown under the bus, you are saying?

Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

when you hear about it you feel a little pity because so uncool
exactly -- only the too late adopters will use it and they will out themselves as deeply uncool

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

that little bit of vomit shows up on my facebook wall sometimes

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

and i'm guessing that at least 4/5 times it's a late adopter, if not 100% of the time

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

as does "best. (x). ever." (which will probably never go away unfortunately)

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

cataloguing people's language tics is why i can still find facebook useful/amusing
it's like a living corpus of language in use

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

a cyber corpus

Aimless, Friday, 22 November 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

ilx too on a boring day

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

Hm, I used "because" as a preposition for the second time on ILX ever just a few hours ago (sorry LL)

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 22 November 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

i only like it to watch the spread of adoption

― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, November 22, 2013 1:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, me too, basically.

Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Friday, 22 November 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

oh no

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

i rest my case

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Saturday, 23 November 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

the "because internet" construction doesn't seem like a faux-naif thing to me, at least not in the way that it was discussed in this thread. dayo's observations were otm: this voice at its most characteristic is a response to the writer's awareness of their limitations -- of all the conditioning that comes to bear on their claims, as well as the impossibility of ever really stepping outside all of this stuff to talk "objectively"... the same old derridean impasses they teach every english major -- and it expresses a desire for an "innocent" subject position. culture paradoxically comes to seem alienating when one recognizes it as a "total" system. for these bloggers, becoming a cultural critic is not about their love of culture, but their fear of it. trends, phenomena, etc. need to be kept at arm's length and to do this you need to keep an eye on them. by rendering cultural phenomena visible, one can forget -- for today -- that culture itself permeates everything, has no borders, and is invisible.

people who say "because internet" are evincing a level of knowingness that is the opposite of the faux-naif blog voice. where's the anxiety? people who say this seem to think they can make generalizations about the meanings and origins of things and be correct.

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Saturday, 23 November 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

people who say this seem to think they can make generalizations about the meanings and origins of things and be correct.

i think that it's more that they expect their readership to understand just what the ellipsis they are making would have contained - also, not "origins of things" so much as "reasons for things".

thighs without a face (c sharp major), Saturday, 23 November 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link


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