― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link
If you read that Film Comment article, it actually tackles the racism claims in quite a sensible way. Amélie is a fairy tale, not a socially conscious drama.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link
No, I was just trying to make the point that not dealing with race doesn't equate racist. Problematic, maybe, but not every film can deal with everything.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link
birth of a nation was a fairytale, reagan's 'morning in america' ads were a fairytale. and amelie does deal with race. pointedly. but you're right, best not to think about art or what they say about the society that produces it.
First of all, your comparison is totally unfair, but I think you know it. Secondly, of course you need to think about the society that produces art, but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy certain pieces of art, like Amélie, nevertheless. Otherwise we'd need to throw out most of the films ever made, including 99% of Golden Age Hollywood movies. But I don't think you really disagree with me on this.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jibé (Jibé), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link
ILX TOP 50 FILMS OF 2000-2004 NOMINATIONS THREAD
Don't really understand why the voting thread was started before the nominations closed, but maybe I missed a change of date. Erick?
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, I missed the racism too. As did just about everyone else on this board who watched it, it seems.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Late additions:Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (Kim ki-Duk, 2003)The Others (Alejandro Amenábar, 2001)The Good Girl (Miguel Arteta, 2002)
The Philipert movie was already nominated.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link
No, it was released in 2005. This poll only covers 2000-04.
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link
btw. Just saying, cause I think the names under which they were released might have varied between the US and the UK.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
I should've posted to the fuckin' nominations thread. I can't believe I'm the only one who gives a shit about Black Hawk Down or Brotherhood of the Wolf. What is the matter with people?
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Ocean's 11, sweet Jesus. Come to some non-Hitler furrin films with me this weekend, hon!
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, he did include two of them in the film, didn't he? Though maybe the problem is that he didn't treat them as representatives of a minority rather than characters in story, whose ethnicity has no relevance, only their personality, which is why people don't think of the as "ethnic". Which I think should be seen as a positive thing.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― zzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
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Race does matter in France, but should race matter in every French movie, even in such a non-realist flick as Amélie?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― zzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― zzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― zzzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link
I also didn't nominate L'Esquive, one of my fave films that debuted in NYC this year, about Muslim kids in a Paris project (won a buncha Cesars):
http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=1506
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Yes.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tape Store, Sunday, 1 April 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 1 April 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba, Sunday, 1 April 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tape Store, Monday, 2 April 2007 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tape Store, Monday, 2 April 2007 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link