50 great things about Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk"

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how's life, Monday, 30 July 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

iirc, it was Mick Fleetwood's slang term for the male genitalia

There should be an entry in the "Pieces of Pop Trivia (that are 100% false)" thread about how the album and song were originally called "Penis" and that the switch to Mick's slang term happened only because of objections from Warner Bros., who threatened to lock the master tape of the track away in the same vault they threw the "Rape of Christ" sequence of The Devils into.

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

Lol, I never heard about it originally being called Penis, just read somewhere about the genesis of Mick's "tusk" thing.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if Grisso made that story up just now but I think it's not true.

seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

note: "Pieces of Pop Trivia (that are 100% false)" per This Thread

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

The massive sea of humming harmonies in the middle of 'That's All For Everyone'...

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

95. The bit in "Sara" where she sings "He was undoing/Undoing/Undoing the laces" into the tape echo right before the mix dries out again is all-time.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, duh, of course Nathan Fake's "Undoing The Laces" in a Fleetwood Mac reference; will have to play it next to Justus Köhncke's "Albatross" one day.

Enjoying the Crystal Ark's cover of Tusk, though I still wish there was some sort of Tom Moulton-esque 12" version of the original floating around.

etc, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, duh, /of course/ Nathan Fake's "Undoing The Laces" in a Fleetwood Mac reference

You mean the same Nathan Fake who titled an album Drowning In a Sea of Love?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link

They really need to get around to making a Classic Albums documentary of this. I know that Rumours has one already, and that there was a great documentary on Tusk at the time of its release, but I'd really like to hear the real in-depth hindsight perspective on Tusk from the members themselves. The 'Don't Stop' and 'Rock Family Trees' shows on Fleetwood Mac's whole career were both great, but they didn't really go as far into THIS era of the band as I feel they could have done. I still think there's a hell of a lot for them to talk about in regards to this album, and I still think there's shitloads of archive footage of the recording process that we haven't seen. Wouldn't it be great to see Ken Caillat in the studio, isolating the harmonies on 'Walk A Thin Line' or 'That's All For Everyone'?

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

from the RS cover story:

In a private plane that's passing through a storm somewhere over the Rocky Mountains, Lindsey Buckingham, Richard Dashut and I are discussing Talking Heads' Fear of Music, an album they both like a lot. Across the table, John McVie cringes when he hears the words New Wave. "Is that punk rock?" he asks, feigning horror, then slumps over and pretends to sleep. Buckingham and Dashut have never seen Talking Heads perform, so I am trying to describe what the band is like. The lead singer has spasms onstage, I explain, and the bass player and the drummer are married to each other. McVie wakes up. "Did you say married to each other? You mean, this band has a man and wife, a couple in it?" There is a long, irony-charged silence. In the back of the cabin, Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie are wrapped in blankets, asleep. The plane engines drone. McVie takes a sip of his drink and mumbles something.

"Oh. We ought t

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

Every time I read a paragraph of that I felt like I must have missed a paragraph. I'll have to give it another shot later.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

I fucking love this album.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

^Me fucking too.

I deeply love Rumours, but its beauty has a self-sufficient, perfected quality that can verge on stifling. Tusk brings air, space, and even a dose of ugliness to the table, and this makes the FM universe a much much bigger place for us all to live in. It was an unnecessary experiment, and all the more necessary for that.

Also, I contend that "Over and Over", over time, repeated listens, stretched across the decades, slowly but surely exerts itself as the greatest album opener ever.

Sorry if I sound pretentious. I haven't figured out how to write about things that make me weep.

collardio gelatinous, Saturday, 8 December 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link

Disc 1 of the Tusk reissue is the only CD in my car. I usually take the bus, but I'll drive my car once per week to keep it in running condition. I get through the whole album about every 1.5 weeks. It's a bit remarkable that they reissued this on vinyl for $40. You can easily find used copies in record stores for <$10.

We Got Hasheem (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 8 December 2012 02:12 (eleven years ago) link

Is it actual reissue vinyl, or did Warners merely stumble into a warehouse full of New/Old Stock and was like "Ka-Ching!"?

Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 8 December 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

I believe it is a reissue. The year says 2012, and the vinyl is 140g. That's a weird weight, but I'm guessing it's still heavier than the original pressings.

We Got Hasheem (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 8 December 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

iirc, they did half-speed remasters of Rumours and the s/t for a recent rsd, but didn't hear about anything re:Tusk. I'd still like to think there's a distributor out there sitting on a load of unsold copies of Tusk, I'm In You and Captain Fantastic.

Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 8 December 2012 03:35 (eleven years ago) link

I doubt Marcello will be getting to I'm In You anytime soon.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 8 December 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link

That's a nice essay, I reckon it gets somewhere near the heart of things.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 8 December 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

version of Over and Over on the Mac's AMAZING 1980 live album contains my favourite Buckingham guitar solo of all time

That symptom is fucking my wife (stevie), Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

gorgeous version; thank you stevie.

collardio gelatinous, Sunday, 9 December 2012 07:34 (eleven years ago) link

I see there's a big box set version of "Rumours" coming out in the new year, 4 cds, dvd and vinyl - the cds are the album, the 2004 extras disc, another disc of out-takes and a live show, the dvd is the Rosebud documentary (sorry, no idea what that is but the report I read said it was "legendary"). Wonder if they'll do a similar box for "Tusk"?

Rob M Revisited, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vrNtkC6rU0

Rosebud contains this incredible outdoor afternoon performance. If there's any more footage from this show I may die of joy. A tracklisting I've seen suggests it goes: World Turning, Rhiannon, Say You Love Me, Go Your Own Way, You Make Loving Fun, I'm So Afraid; but whether the other five are performances I do not know.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

I'm fairly sure Rhiannon will be, actually - iirc I've seen a couple of seconds of Stevie singing it outdoors, maybe on Behind The Music.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

the echo on stevie's vocals on the line: "I think I had met my match"

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

the double tracked drums on sara

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

Nicks wailing, "ALL I EVER WANTED! WHOAAAAAH" over the outro

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

everything about that song basically

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

the echo on stevie's vocals on the line: "I think I had met my match"

Holy shit yes.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link

when she sings "she was singing" and Christine's voice rises ecstatically AHHHHHHUHHHHAAAHHHHHHUHHHH

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link

lay-saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaces

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

the laces undoing the laces

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

revived this because i listened to the expanded tusk today -- re: sara, i almost wish that alternate take wasn't there (tho i like hearing it i guess) just because the released version is ridiculously perfect, just an amazing song/production/vocal/performance/everything.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link

The alternate take needs to be heard just once.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link

i listen to the alt take more than the album version these days, i like the extra length and hearing the ooh-ahh bits (and the cleaning lady bit)

glycemic index joe (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

^^^^2nded

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:27 (ten years ago) link

i prefer the longer version!

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link

more "sara". what's not to like?!

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link

^otm

ILE Wet Treeship Night (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link

do we need to have a poll? listened to both of these on headphones yesterday and there is no contest.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link

GH version >>>>> original Tusk version >>>>> alternate take

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

what's the greatest hits version -- an edit?

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link

i have a 7:36 from a bootleg labelled "tusk rehearsals" (nice version but terrible recording) and the original is 6:22 (Edited to 4:39 on earlier CD pressings).

yeah is GH the 4 min first CD release edit? and which alt are you talking about?

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

the ''It's all I want to do" vocal part in "you make loving fun"

jbn, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

That's Rumours, dog.

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link

oh fuck sorry

jbn, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

The GH version was for a long time the only full version extant

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link


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