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wait, just so I get this clear, dayo, do you think his joke was:

A. What do you think about his [dreamy] eyes? [<--Potential for double meaning makes it offensive]
B. What about his [narrow compared to us white ppl] eyes? [<--Horrifying explicit racism makes it offensive]

CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE (dave cool), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.doletown.com/simpsons/wiggum/ralphface.gif

"Oh boy, news! That's where I'm a racist!"

CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE (dave cool), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

how are things going, dave cool? pretty cool?

Mordy, Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

I see why contenderizer is making this argument; the female anchor immediately jumps in with muttered "THEY'RE DREAMY!" comments while the sportscaster is laughing. The problem with that argument is that they are coming from the same person who starts the clip by asserting that a dude who is of average height for an NBA player in his position in short, which JUST SO HAPPENS to be another "thing" people talk about re: Asian men.

Really, all that clip needs is for someone to ask, "Do you think he gets... intimidated, when he looks around the showers?" and for the sports reporter to say, "Oh no, the entire team is proud of his success and has his back 100%?" to fully transform this into the type of joke being called out upthread as a racist Family Guy bit.

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

for furthur context: is the video going around because ppl are actually legit offended or it is mostly a "haha accidental racism" viral video like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmQ4nRbtbTM

CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE (dave cool), Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

this is way more offensive to me tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxN1zkQgKKA

CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE (dave cool), Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

I had to watch that twice before I even noticed what happened

when did The Boondocks become live-action

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

haha I had no idea spike lee was already in his rambly old man years

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

dave cool, which answer would you choose?

flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

he's always been kinda rambly!

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

I call him Ramblin' Spike Lee

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

40 acres and some blues

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

I read it as being racist against asians, 99% of asian americans would read it as being racist against asians, and I wish you would stop telling me otherwise.

― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:16 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ important post

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

but we can always plays "white people tell others when its ok to be offended" some more

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

What did Spike say upthread? I couldn't pay attention through all the sports.

beachville, Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

shortly after :22 in the video, Spike says "I like Dick" (re: someone on the Knicks) and the announcer calmly says "Pause" while Lee is still talking

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

i have never heard "pause" in lieu of "no homo"; this is common parlez?

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

yes

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

Ok, so it wasn't Spike but the announcer. I get it now.

beachville, Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

forks it hasn't been THAT long since you listened to any new rap has it?

some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

anyway, homophobia transcends race so that offensive clip is not racist

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

still classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8BMA6r3_xI

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

"Pause"

pplains, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

I read it as being racist against asians, 99% of asian americans would read it as being racist against asians, and I wish you would stop telling me otherwise.

― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:16 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ important post

...but we can always plays "white people tell others when its ok to be offended" some more

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:36 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jeez, not sure it's necessary to personalize this in such aggressive terms (said to both of you). wasn't trying to say that no one has a right to be offended, just that i don't perceive clear evidence of racist intent on the reporter's part. maybe, maybe not, and i'm inclined to presume innocence in such cases. that's just me, though. i fully expect others to read things differently...

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

dude: uh, i listen to new rap pretty much daily
i just never hear anybody say this in regular speech and i must filter it out or something... post a song that does this?

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

and fuck boondocks really

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

?

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

lol Boondocks 4eva <3

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

As a white dude, I would never feel comfortable saying that "99% of white people believe x", but hey.

polyphonic, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

nothing against you crut; i just can't stand that cartoon. or mcgruder, really. i respect that guy as much as i do jim davis or scott adams.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

contenderizer, keep digging

flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

i respect that guy as much as i do jim davis or scott adams.

:O

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

Is it because he wrote Red Tails?

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

boondocks is great wtf

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

xp oh did he? ha, no but that's funny.
he's just not a good cartoonist or comic strip writer. he's a good businessman. you ever read his comics journal interview?

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw I think Boondocks works a LOT better as a show than a comic strip, but still, wtf

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

i like that i'm discussing my distaste for aaron mcgruder in the "is this racist" thread. lost before i started.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

I don't understand how anyone could find the R.Kelly episode unfunny

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not a connoisseur of the show; i've watched maybe three episodes here or there and i find the outsourced animation very bleh and the stories hamhanded on a par with family guy
not my thing

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Boondocks was the best written and best animated show on Adult Swim (damn w/faint praise).

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

forks

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

family guy

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

why

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

Also you realize Beetle Bailey is the only good modern comic strip anyway

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

"modern"

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not gonna argue "best animated" but yeah, I definitely think it's on a level above every other piece of programming they've ever had aside from Futurama

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

see, i'd argue venture brothers and mutts but what do i know

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

i think we're all forgetting a superior piece of animated entertainment called 'american dad'

omar little, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Venture Bros looks like a Flash animation (esp first season)

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

no doubt, first season was weak but the building blocks were there. looks great now!
but i also have always hated futurama's lack of body. different strokes, folks.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link


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