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the "pontiac" one was pretty common among kids where i grew up : /

omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

dan that first link is about porkchop being used against puerto ricans! i personally have never heard it irl and i am friends with a lot of ppl with lusophone heritage -- most of the epithets i've heard re: portuguese are applied to other immigrant groups as well

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

It's 5pm over here!

... yeah half and hour and I'll be going to the pub to Irish someone's pint

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

I can't believe the snob acronym thing. What's the criteria for getting into that database - 4 people having to use a term. I refuse to believe that's legitimately a widespread term. It can't be, right? :(

ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

of course it isn't!

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

thanx for inciting me to fall off the wagon

the smell of Whiney's cheap perfume (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

Still Falkland Islanders After British troops were forbidden to use the insulting term "Bennies", they named the Islanders "Stills" - because they were still Bennies.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

i'd drink the pish off a bishop's leg by chrisht

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

It's those I Love Books boys, with their FAPs, terrible for it, so they are

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

the "pontiac" one was pretty common among kids where i grew up : /

― omar little, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:53 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Me too. Along with a slur against Native Americans based on "Ford": Found on reservation dump. (Besides the more common "fix or repair daily" and "flip over, read directions.")

Famous porn scenes like "shake that bear" (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

Wait - Pontiac? What's that? Site's blocked here.

ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

ILX is the second google result for that which cheers me no end

I knew a guy in a local metal band called "Bangin' Moon" (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

xp obv

I knew a guy in a local metal band called "Bangin' Moon" (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Found on road, dead.

Yeah, I can't look at a Pontiac w/o thinking of that either.

pplains, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

"Pontiac" = "Poor Old N***** Thinks It's A Cadillac"

Famous porn scenes like "shake that bear" (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

I must admit, I laughed.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

x-post

Whaaaaaaaaaa?

Yeah, I never ever heard that. Wow.

ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

ಠ_ಠ

Famous porn scenes like "shake that bear" (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

But what do they call them? We've got Jocks, Micks, Paddys, what are they? Trevors? Brians?

― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.)

The go-to phrase round these parts ime is "fuckin English bastarts".

ERIC CANONTA FOR PRESIDETN! (onimo), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

Feb (2) British Stands for Filthy (or Fucking) English Bastard.

ledge, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

Haggistani Scottish Compares Scotland to a 3rd world country such as Pakistan

2-for-1!

ledge, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

i always thought the pontiac thing was dumb because half the white dudes i knew were aspiring to pontiac fieros and also i'd seen 'superfly'

omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

that database was posted here years ago but I can't find the thread where we initially boggled at it

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

Chinless Wonder British. Reference to inbreeding and a weak gene pool resulting in poor bone structure.

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

hahahahahaha

sorry British people

ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

i'm trying to think of something to say about canadians but jon's "code word" story upthread is making me wary

Frostbacks, I guess, but I think we'd be more appreciative of the attention than offended by the slur

house of the holey (Ówen P.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

I for one am trying to puzzle out why I've been in the dark about 95% of these slurs for so long
"Itis" poll last night w/friends, only one had heard of it b4

house of the holey (Ówen P.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

I originally mentioned pork chops because they are delicious with applesauce. The food dish, I had no idea about the Portuguese slur and I have never tried to combine a Portuguese person with applesauce and cannot speak to its appeal.

mh, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

haven't read the newest 200 posts but

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news%2Fcrime&id=8511126

is it fair for the police chief to call the suspects 'animals'

I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

calling little kids "monkey" is totally within the remit of this thread because it's often intended to be cute and innocent but the whole "this is also a term used to denigrate black people" thing makes it fraught with peril

I used to work for a UK children's book publisher who were doing a board book with pictures of babies matched up with random dumb "cute" things about the babies in the pics. Unfortunately, the page that said, "cheeky monkey" had a picture of a black toddler. Publisher had to change the text.

It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

x-post - I see what you're saying but I've used "animal/s" to describe people who don't know how to behave or do so badly without linking it to race at all. Like if I see a lot of litter or something - "What kid of animals would do that?!". P sure the chief prob did so too?

ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I'm not sure, just tossing it out there

I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

This thread is moving rather fast, but re: not knowing the connotations of stuff like "uppity", I remember being told off for using "inscrutable" about someone who was Japanese - my mind was blown that this was a *thing* but I never used it again.

― emil.y, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:44 AM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

there def is a stereotype that east asians (and I don't know if this applies to ethnic east asians who were born in America and socialized as Americans) are reticent to show emotion/emotionless

I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

Beeps and I have off-and-on been working on her very public acknowledgment of people we see and what color they are.

There was this rly interesting article last year somewhere about how kids automatically classify things by their differences, because that's how their brains are wired to learn about the world, so pretending that two people AREN'T superficially different is just confusing to them and logically more likely to make them feel that the difference is embarrassing, because no one will talk about it/adults go against what is obviously visible.

No kids, me, so I'm free to be completely fascinated by problems I'm never likely to run up against.

It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

here's a line from saul bellow's herzog

It may be that guilt and sadness made me look Oriental. A morose, angry eye, a long upper lip-what people used to call the Chinese Gleep. It was beau to her.

I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty sure the "beat up a 64-year old" takes precedence over "six black and Hispanic males" re: animal descriptor xp

houses of the holey (Ówen P.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

yeah "inscrutable Oriental" is a thing. "inscrutable" by itself is a great word, though; i wouldn't chuck it completely.

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

My mother used the word "uppity" on phone w me the other day, in anger with a badly behaved kid in her class who also happened to be black and I was like, "Okay, let's go back to square one, here. I don't care what else you do with your life, as long as you never say that again." Tried to make the point that it has too much history to ever be a neutral word.

She got mad at me for finding fault with her AGAIN as she must feel like I'm always doing. :/

It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Me and my PC nonsense that only I care about, because no one else has ever corrected her, apparently.

It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

"Oriental" shouldn't be used to describe anything except furniture and architecture afaik

houses of the holey (Ówen P.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

and orientalism, obv xp

I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

Lol, 'uppity' was already discussed ITT (my only ref was to Mr Uppity as well, NV)

kinder, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

"Oriental" shouldn't be used to describe anything except furniture and architecture afaik

― houses of the holey (Ówen P.), Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:31 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes, of course, but the racist archetype is "inscrutable Oriental"

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

Well, like I said earlier I never ever knew that it had that history so your mom isn't the only one.

ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

if there's a black kid acting in such a way that would cause a white kid to be described as uppity, what do you use instead, just y'know out of interest

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

yes, of course, but the racist archetype is "inscrutable Oriental"

Never heard that either. Jesus Christ I am never saying anything again ever.

ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

x-post - snobby? stuck up?

ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link


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