quick question about bannings

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if a poster on the board wishes death on a sick poster and isn't temp banned, what exactly gets you a temp ban these days?

thanks.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:08 (eight years ago) link

generally speaking, someone with the power to ban would need to see the post

given that the poster this was directed towards asked everyone to drop it, I'm not sure a tempban is going to happen regardless

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:11 (eight years ago) link

given that the poster this was directed towards asked everyone to drop it

valiant, tho i'm not quite sure this should matter

but alright

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:11 (eight years ago) link

If you want to someone to be banned, you should go ahead and ask for it and link to the offending post rather than asking why the mods haven't read your mind yet.

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:13 (eight years ago) link

does the flag post system work? cuz it should be pretty obvious, i would think

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:14 (eight years ago) link

hey DJP, aren't you glad you aren't a mod anymore?

sarahell, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:14 (eight years ago) link

I think a lot of people have flagged that post already

乒乓, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:15 (eight years ago) link

I am beyond glad

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:16 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/7J3Ia.jpg

乒乓, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:16 (eight years ago) link

still waiting for my christmas card for that one, feel like i've lowered your blood pressure by 20 mmHg just by driving you to hang up the mod hat

then again i probably raised it by 20 w/ all the shit i gave you :/

racewar driver (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:17 (eight years ago) link

yeah it basically all canceled itself out by the end

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:18 (eight years ago) link

sorry man

racewar driver (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:24 (eight years ago) link

"we've put in a system that allows offensive posts to be directed to the mods, and, yes, it's been 5 hours, but hey, could you explicitly point it out?"

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:31 (eight years ago) link

aimee dom jordan

velko, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:33 (eight years ago) link

being petulant and passive-aggressive as opposed to linking the offensive post on a thread here is the best strategy for you here, good job

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:36 (eight years ago) link

also i wanna see it

mookieproof, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:37 (eight years ago) link

wau

mookieproof, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:39 (eight years ago) link

liberalism in 2012

zvookster, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:39 (eight years ago) link

hey do u think it could have a chilling effect in these threads when obama stans wish violence on ppl for their political views just wondering

zvookster, Friday, 19 October 2012 21:41 (eight years ago) link

a poster on the board wishes death on a sick poster and is temp banned

buzza, Saturday, 20 October 2012 03:34 (eight years ago) link

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"we've put in a system that allows offensive posts to be directed to the mods, and, yes, it's been 5 hours, but hey, could you explicitly point it out?"

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, October 19, 2012 9:31 PM (Yesterday)

4 things

1. flag post is just sug ban renamed obv you did not get that memo
2. wtf is up with people getting pissed abt mods not reading their goddamn minds or spending their all their time scanning every thread on here lately because hey if you want me to devote all day to that fuck you pay me
3. whoops i was at my brother in laws wedding rehearsal and then grooms dinner i should have prob checked in on ilx in between courses and commandeered the point of sale system
4. go fuck yourself.

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, 20 October 2012 03:52 (eight years ago) link

one poster wished death on a sick poster and 5 hours later was still posting, y'all were slacking. sorry.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:06 (eight years ago) link

i mean, cool, you were busy. fair enough. you're not the only mod.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:08 (eight years ago) link

1) the change from SB to FP was supposed to alert mods to posts rather than posters
2) feel like 2 and 3 are pretty much the same point?
3) 4 is kinda unbecoming to a mod and unprovoked? calm down dude!

racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:08 (eight years ago) link

of*

racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:10 (eight years ago) link

the change from SB to FP was supposed to alert mods to posts rather than posters

the change was only that of terminology

and you guys are being shitty about this unnecessarily and you know it

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:12 (eight years ago) link

wmc is the best mod we have btw and he did good here, shockah

in fairness i don't doubt that jjusten would have loved to pull the trigger on this one if he knew in time so no hard feelings?

racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:14 (eight years ago) link

1. for the millionth time, the change from sb to fp was a 100% rhetorical change. the issue was that suggest ban sounds aggro, and flag post sounds less so. it is the exact same system! the success is in the fact that people use it differently because of the connotations, but the under the hood aspect is exactly the same, when someone gets 51, they get banned.
2. nah one is specific to me, and the other is a generalized issue that seems to have come up a lot recently
3. unbecoming to a mod, lol, waht?

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:15 (eight years ago) link

3 xps dude, with 3 people posting itt, keep up please

racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:17 (eight years ago) link

you've been a little slow today, demonstrably

racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:18 (eight years ago) link

sad truth, i did check my phone in the bathroom between courses actually and weighed in on the mod discussion board that this was bannable btw. just fyi, we are trying to make these mod calls more collective, so sometimes when things take a while, its because there is a discussion towards consensus on the mod discussion forum.

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:18 (eight years ago) link

wait are you saying i am being slow?

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:20 (eight years ago) link

k3v and j0rd don't honestly care about the post in question or about morbs, they're just using it as a wedge to fuck with the moderators

it is a fucked-up exercise better left ignored

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:25 (eight years ago) link

sad truth, i did check my phone in the bathroom between courses actually and weighed in on the mod discussion board that this was bannable btw. just fyi, we are trying to make these mod calls more collective, so sometimes when things take a while, its because there is a discussion towards consensus on the mod discussion forum.

― I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:18 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

okay, fair enough! thanks john.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:25 (eight years ago) link

Slowness is unbecoming of board royalty. Cast off your leaden crown that you might attend your sworn duties in a timely fashion.

Burgled Hams (Old Lunch), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:27 (eight years ago) link

uh, no, mookie, i actually do care a lot about morbs and think that amateurist post is probably the worst thing i've ever read on ilx. i understand why morbs decided to let it lie but i think a big deal needs to be made about it & how the mods did or did not react to it. i don't waste my time trolling the mods.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:27 (eight years ago) link

k3v and j0rd don't honestly care about the post in question or about morbs, they're just using it as a wedge to fuck with the moderators

it is a fucked-up exercise better left ignored

― mookieproof, Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:25 AM (1 minute ago)

*exhales*

i can see how my recent posts could give that impression and i regret that, but it's not true

racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:29 (eight years ago) link

no prob man - if i was a bit snippy off the bat, well you can thank a funfilled week of ilx moderation for that tbh xpost to j0rdan

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:30 (eight years ago) link

Can we symbolically ban Aimee?

omar little, Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:31 (eight years ago) link

Protests to the contrary, I think mookieproof is otm

WmC, Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:32 (eight years ago) link

haha actually maybe we can, give me a second xpost

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:32 (eight years ago) link

yeah honestly k3v, your track record does not really indicate much to the contrary

I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:33 (eight years ago) link

Protests to the contrary, I think mookieproof is otm

― WmC, Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:32 AM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark

i have no history of trolling the mods and sorry that someone called you guys out on slow modding of a death wish, suck it up

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:33 (eight years ago) link

Make the admin log reason a good one

omar little, Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:33 (eight years ago) link

the post is nightmarish, but you have fashioned it into a passive-aggressive tool for bullshit.

start a thread asking for that post to be removed. start a thread saying 'this post is awful'. start a thread called 'ban amateurist'. instead you used it to attack the process.

not that the process is inviolable, but your priorities are fucked up

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:33 (eight years ago) link

*realizes another person he respects has the same impression, sighs*

don't think the two are mutually exclusive, at the very least

xxxxxp wmc

racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:34 (eight years ago) link

the keller who cried wolf

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:34 (eight years ago) link

the post is nightmarish, but you have fashioned it into a passive-aggressive tool for bullshit.

start a thread asking for that post to be removed. start a thread saying 'this post is awful'. start a thread called 'ban amateurist'. instead you used it to attack the process.

not that the process is inviolable, but your priorities are fucked up

― mookieproof, Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:33 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well i was a bit pissed that it had been 5 hours and nothing had been done about something that was incredibly gross & plainly bannable

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:39 (eight years ago) link

anyway john's explanation is valid & amateurist is banned now so it's all water under the bridge as far as i'm concerned

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:39 (eight years ago) link

It would be different if that post was made on a thread about suicide or depression, or addressed to a poster who has openly posted about struggles with ideation and mental illness ... similar to the calzino stabbing thing -- it's bad precedent, though the initial mod impulse is understandable. I'm just requesting that this be a temp-ban or (ideally imo) a yellow card. Like, I'm not going "fuck mods" about this ...

sarahell, Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:51 (eleven months ago) link

Clearly the trick is to bring it up in the ADMIN LOG 2 thread.

pomenitul, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:00 (eleven months ago) link

might work better if the person bringing it up isn't the person that started the ADMIN LOG 2 thread

sarahell, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:01 (eleven months ago) link

There's an admin log?

Anyway sarahell I agree with you, after what happened with calzino I think it would be beneficial to have some sort of post-mortem examination of the context of Boring's statement. Honestly I know very little about Boring or about their history with the board.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:05 (eleven months ago) link

What was the joke? Who is Boring?

treeship., Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:10 (eleven months ago) link

Ok found it. Idk what they intended. I’m happy with the idea of anyone who responds to posters with an urge to “kill themselves”—sadly common on the internet, should have no place here—but idk if this was that

treeship., Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:12 (eleven months ago) link

Suicide. Wasn’t obviously a joke to me as a poster on that thread fwiw.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:12 (eleven months ago) link

Happy with the idea of *banning* anyone..

treeship., Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:12 (eleven months ago) link

I was wondering about who Boring is as well.

peace, man, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:15 (eleven months ago) link

did you think that posters literally believed that whiney wanted to drown Zooey DesChanel and Katy Perry?

sarahell, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:15 (eleven months ago) link

No

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:16 (eleven months ago) link

I mean, whiney has killed lots of people. How could we have known he would draw the line at katy perry?

treeship., Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:16 (eleven months ago) link

I'm not changing it to a temp ban, sorry. Maybe another mod will feel differently. Even if it wasn't an actual suggestion to actually commit actual suicide, I'm through with "jeez I was just joking, don't you have a sense of humor?" defenses.

Scampos Runamuck (WmC), Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:29 (eleven months ago) link

your irises like shimmering river water aren't gonna save you now, California Girl! Yeah, no one is gonna party with you anymore, Katy!!!

sarahell, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:30 (eleven months ago) link

ok but wmc, if it was an ABSTRACT point -- like camus' idea that the only serious philosophical question is that of suicide, which is especially relevant at a time when it's hard to know how to morally participate in society -- would THAT be ok?

treeship., Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:44 (eleven months ago) link

that's the thing. if it was specifically targeted toward another poster, a permanent ban makes sense. but if not, then idk.

remember, i was all on the side of the mods last time. i'm no insurrectionist.

treeship., Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:45 (eleven months ago) link

I'm not changing it to a temp ban, sorry. Maybe another mod will feel differently. Even if it wasn't an actual suggestion to actually commit actual suicide, I'm through with "jeez I was just joking, don't you have a sense of humor?" defenses.

― Scampos Runamuck (WmC)

i'm repeating myself from the other thread, but i want to make it clear that i'm not defending boring's behavior, i don't think it's acceptable, and "only joking" is no defense. immediately banning boring was good moderation.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:49 (eleven months ago) link

I nominate sarahell and treeship to be mods

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:49 (eleven months ago) link

i nominate no thanks lol

treeship., Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:50 (eleven months ago) link

ok but wmc, if it was an ABSTRACT point -- like camus' idea that the only serious philosophical question is that of suicide, which is especially relevant at a time when it's hard to know how to morally participate in society -- would THAT be ok?

― treeship., Thursday, August 20, 2020 3:44 PM

are you fucking serious, jesus christ get away from me with your weirdness

Anyway, I'm totally ok if other mods decide to shorten the ban.

Scampos Runamuck (WmC), Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:21 (eleven months ago) link

i am serious. i think he might have been making a point like that -- like a resigned shrug, "we're stuck."

but also, it doesn't matter to me. so i'll get off the topic.

treeship., Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:24 (eleven months ago) link

Camus and I share a birthday, can I at least be a mod of ILAFL

sarahell, Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:30 (eleven months ago) link

also my co-revivor of the ILAFL board, nilmar honorata de silva also voiced his support for me receiving mod powers of said sub-board.

sarahell, Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:33 (eleven months ago) link

WmC otm, don’t know why people have decided this is their hill, but seriously log off, you and we will be better for it.

beef stannin’ (gyac), Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:35 (eleven months ago) link

we must imagine Sisyphus to be happy

sarahell, Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:39 (eleven months ago) link

I don't really know how sub-board moderation works so I don't know if I can make it happen for you, sarahell, but tbh I have no objections.

I'm totally ok if other mods decide to shorten the ban.

I posted in the Admin Log Watch thread but I'll post here too - I've checked out the context, and while I honestly couldn't tell if it was poorly-rendered gallows humour or a seriously aggressive post (it was a bad post either way), I'm in favour of this not being a permaban. Unless they're an old user in a new name, they don't have much history here and most of their posts are perfectly innocuous, so a temp ban seems preferable.

emil.y, Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:41 (eleven months ago) link

You are now banned from ILX.

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:44 (eleven months ago) link

WmC otm, don’t know why people have decided this is their hill, but seriously log off, you and we will be better for it.

― beef stannin’ (gyac)

my hill to do what now?

tryin' not to do that, gyac. tryin' not to.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:51 (eleven months ago) link

Went and read the offensive post, and really, you all. It definitely lived up to their username.

pplains, Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:59 (eleven months ago) link

the Boring part. perhaps not so much the Maryland part.

pplains, Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:59 (eleven months ago) link

Kinda feel like opting for flippancy re: suicide at a time when emotional/mental well-being is at a general low ebb is playing with fire, whatever your intent. WmC made the right call.

the secret of sucess is to know all rules ...and brake them (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 August 2020 22:39 (eleven months ago) link

kinda feel like opting for the use of the colloquialism "playing with fire" while there are literally huge fires raging through parts of the US and the air quality is garbage because of the smoke is also insensitive ...

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 02:07 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3iGZcQBkYs

treeship., Friday, 21 August 2020 02:21 (eleven months ago) link

basically I am in favor of being sensitive and empathetic to the variety of issues affecting other ilxors, but ILX should not have a zero-tolerance policy for gallows humor

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 02:47 (eleven months ago) link

Nor do I, nor does it.

the secret of sucess is to know all rules ...and brake them (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2020 02:55 (eleven months ago) link

(Incoherent; trying again)

I agree, but it's kind of a moot point inasmuch as a zero-tolerance policy for gallows humor isn't a thing.

the secret of sucess is to know all rules ...and brake them (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2020 02:57 (eleven months ago) link

yeab but it's pretty easy to see how this place could go that way

treeship., Friday, 21 August 2020 03:03 (eleven months ago) link

short posting history warrants 3-day temp ban, end of story imo. private yellow card would be good for a regular?

on the other thread stet mentioned changing the admin log so it no longer says "permanently" for all bans, I think this is a good idea.

random thought: can't mods now edit objectionable posts to make the text hidden?

sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 03:11 (eleven months ago) link

xpost No. No, it really isn't.

the secret of sucess is to know all rules ...and brake them (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2020 03:24 (eleven months ago) link

i've luckily never struggled with depression, but i have many friends and family members who have. ilx has documented at least one suicide attempt and plenty of suicidal ideation. there is a way to do gallows humor without crossing a line which should be pretty obvious to most intelligent people.

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 August 2020 03:31 (eleven months ago) link

kinda feel like opting for the use of the colloquialism "playing with fire" while there are literally huge fires raging through parts of the US

FP'd you for racism

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Friday, 21 August 2020 04:12 (eleven months ago) link

random thought: can't mods now edit objectionable posts to make the text hidden?

― sleeve, Thursday, August 20, 2020 8:11 PM (yesterday)

very good random thought!

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 18:07 (eleven months ago) link

five months pass...

if you flag post on one thread and then flag the same poster for another post on a different thread, does that count as two flags or just one?

superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:26 (six months ago) link

it's just one flag per poster for each flaggable poster

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:27 (six months ago) link

This was the weakest episode of The Dekalog imo

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:28 (six months ago) link

xps you hated that money thread too huh

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:47 (six months ago) link

I know it only counts once but there's a therapeutic benefit in going again.

new variant (onimo), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:54 (six months ago) link

not the money thread. not a "Big" Deal thOugh. eNough others will flag, i'm sure.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:56 (six months ago) link

lol nv

brimstead, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:01 (six months ago) link

Ah, BElieve yR otm yet agaiN, hArbl THY words ring true

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:02 (six months ago) link


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