It's the 5th Annual I Love Hoops NBA Role Player Hollafame - VOTING & CAMPAIGNING THREAD (voting closes MONDAY, JULY 25, 2022, 11:59 PM CST)

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i never though i'd be looking at more COVID waves than hollafame classes, but here we are

it is JULY which means we are voting for ROLE PLAYERS in our illustrious hollafame

below are 86 nominees from last year's vote who never made all-star or all-nba teams but were still major contributors to the game PLUS some new guys. only players who have not played NBA basketball in the last 5 years are eligible, so ITT we need to list some role players who retired after the 2016-2017 season.

Mychal Thompson
Derek Harper
Manute Bol
Hedo Turkoglu
Mario Elie
Kurt Thomas
Craig Hodges
Damon Stoudamire
Ben Gordon
Johnny Moore
Bruce Bowen
Brent Barry
James Posey
Michael Cage
Derek Fisher
Scott Skiles
Chuck Person
Shawn Bradley
Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
Rafer Alston
Darrell Armstrong
Isaac Austin
M.L. Carr
Rex Chapman
Michael Cooper
Dell Curry
Ernie DiGregorio
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.
Pervis Ellison
Kendall Gill
Darrell Griffith
Alan Henderson
Fred Hoiberg
Larry Hughes
Bobby Jackson
Avery Johnson
Eddie Johnson
George Johnson
Jason Kapono
Ron Lee
Tim Legler
Jim Les
Don MacLean
Sarunas Marciulionis
Vernon Maxwell
Aaron McKie
Don Meineke
Gheorghe Muresan
Tracy Murray
Bo Outlaw
Anthony Peeler
Kevin Porter
Rodney Rogers
Tree Rollins
Rony Seikaly
Bobby Simmons
Elmore Smith
Larry Steele
Jon Sundvold
Roy Tarpley
Brian Taylor
Sedale Threatt
Trent Tucker
Loy Vaught
Sasha Vujacic
Donald “Slick” Watts 
John “Hot Rod” Williams
Walt Williams
Corliss Williamson
Kevin Martin
Matt Bonner
PJ Brown
David Wesley
Jim Jackson
Grant Long
Luke Ridnour
Willie Green
Ryan Gomes
Chuck Hayes
Landry Fields
Melvin Ely
Ronny Turiaf
Andres Nocioni
James Jones
Matt Barnes
Boris Diaw

EMAIL YOUR BALLOTS TO

roastingonanopenfire

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Your ballot should contain a list of 5 players. If you submit them ranked 1-5, 1st place will get 5 points, 2nd will get 4, etc. If you submit them unranked, each player will be awarded 3 pts.

with all my unprotected picks,
m bison

p.s. when you submit your ballot, indicate which ilx user you are

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:25 (three weeks ago) link

c/o 2018:
Lamar Odom
Marcus Camby
Steve Kerr
Tyrone “Muggsy” Bogues
Toni Kukoc

c/o 2019:
Shane Battier
Ron Harper
Cedric “Cornbread” Maxwell
Vinnie “Microwave” Johnson
Stephen Jackson

c/o 2020:
Arvydas Sabonis
Jason Ricahrdson
Sam Perkins
Robert Horry
Nate McMillan

c/o 2021:
Andre Miller
Mike Bibby
Byron Scott
Jalen Rose
Tayshaun Prince

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:29 (three weeks ago) link

so is this class of retirees now available?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2017%E2%80%9318_NBA_season_transactions#Retirement

symsymsym, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 01:54 (three weeks ago) link

most of them yeah, but a few were 2018 retirements (i.e. nick collison)

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 02:03 (three weeks ago) link

if there are particular dudes you feel should be on the nomination list, just say "[this guy] should be a nominee"

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 02:04 (three weeks ago) link

oh and btw submit ballots even if its just "heres five dudes i remembered"

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 02:04 (three weeks ago) link

Mike Miller would be a deserving nominee, if he qualifies

symsymsym, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 02:10 (three weeks ago) link

i'll pull out some notable names from that list (ie guys that might get votes imo) and if someone wants to fact check that they retired the correct year if they'd like!

james jones
tayshaun prince
steve blake
matt barnes
mike miller

that's about it!

Clay, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 02:29 (three weeks ago) link

tayshaun was a first ballot hofer last year! everyone else on that list is eligible

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 02:34 (three weeks ago) link

also eligible: boris diaw

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 02:34 (three weeks ago) link

some dudes who qualify and have not yet been mentioned itt:

Monta Ellis
Luis Scola
Leandro Barbosa
Cuttino Mobley (he's been eligible for a long time but hadn't showed up in noms)

circles, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 03:18 (three weeks ago) link

good calls! scola and nocioni representing the argentinian golden generation

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 03:26 (three weeks ago) link

diaw gotta be first ballot rphof

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:04 (three weeks ago) link

Rex Chapman

move to strike eligibility for being one of the most annoying people on twitter

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:08 (three weeks ago) link

block or charge!

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:10 (three weeks ago) link

i dont think rex has too many partisans in these ilh streets, i wouldnt worry about him sneaking in tbh

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:46 (three weeks ago) link

btw yall need to vote

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 22 July 2022 02:09 (three weeks ago) link

i have submitted by secret ballot via the blockchain

Clay, Friday, 22 July 2022 02:18 (three weeks ago) link

thank u, and ur secret identity is safe with me

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 22 July 2022 02:50 (three weeks ago) link

the dopamine wore off, need more votes

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 22 July 2022 03:00 (three weeks ago) link

Voted!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 22 July 2022 11:55 (three weeks ago) link

hell yeah

currently a 6-way tie for the 5th spot, unlike voting in us elections, your vote really matters here

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:15 (three weeks ago) link

voted! I have apparently voted for Craig Hodges in every hollafame ballot, let's make this his year:

https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2017/05/12/craig-hodges-nba-activism

symsymsym, Friday, 22 July 2022 15:23 (three weeks ago) link

with your ballot, we now have a...10-way tie for 5th

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:25 (three weeks ago) link

Oops I already voted and did not vote for him, but Raja Bell is an egregious omission from the noms list.

There's always next year!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 22 July 2022 15:28 (three weeks ago) link

thats the great thing about the role player hollafame, we keep getting older and they stay retired

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:30 (three weeks ago) link

ill be voting last minute per usual

Spottie, Friday, 22 July 2022 16:35 (three weeks ago) link

is today gonna be the day that one of you jabronis will break the 10-way tie for 5th? i believe it is.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 23 July 2022 15:00 (two weeks ago) link

we now have a...14-way tie for 5th

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 23 July 2022 18:12 (two weeks ago) link

I will try to throw a ballot together tomorrow

brimstead, Saturday, 23 July 2022 20:09 (two weeks ago) link

assuming you already have an electronic mail account voting takes like 30 seconds if anyone is on the fence

Clay, Saturday, 23 July 2022 20:14 (two weeks ago) link

*if you’re like me an put absolutely no thought into anything in life

Clay, Saturday, 23 July 2022 20:15 (two weeks ago) link

the 14-way tie...has broken. however, one vote can dislodge someone in the top 5 quite easily.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 23 July 2022 21:30 (two weeks ago) link

i've started my saturday drinking and i've got hollafame 2022.rtf open

circles, Saturday, 23 July 2022 22:53 (two weeks ago) link

oooh how fancy, folks theyve got RICH text to format over here

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 23 July 2022 22:54 (two weeks ago) link

🧐

circles, Saturday, 23 July 2022 22:59 (two weeks ago) link

yeah i'm RICH

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Hollafame votes

Clay, Saturday, 23 July 2022 23:04 (two weeks ago) link

Alan Henderson

My favorite team ever who broke my heart twice losing to Duke in the final four (EVERYBODY FOULED OUT) and then Alan the next year got hurt before the tournament to lose to Kansas in the elite 8. Sadly both Alan and Calbert Cheaney both spent their careers playing in the total basement dwelling doldrums of the NBA. Oh what could have been...

Henderson was one of the few players I regularly would see on campus as he had a class same time as one of mine in the same hallway. It was hilarious to see his huge frame sitting up against the wall with his long old legs sticking out in front of him way into the walk space.

I delivered wings once to Damon Bailey and in true southern Indiana fashion he answered the door with a big dip in and they were listening to Dio while playing Sega. I kicked Pat Graham out of a BW3s back in the day for him and bunch of dudes drunk as a skunk throwing spent chicken wings across the bar.

Jimmy Jackson was an awesome player. I saw him in the Hall hit a shot to beat the Hoosiers. Fxxk Chris Jent forever, I hated that dude. I think it is a rule that every decent Big 10 team has to have one saw cut white dude that the rest of the league's fans hate for dirty a$$ play and early onset male pattern baldness. Purdue's Brian Cardinal is an all-timer in that category.

earlnash, Sunday, 24 July 2022 13:49 (two weeks ago) link

earl, thats looking awfully close to a role player hollafame ballot

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 24 July 2022 20:38 (two weeks ago) link

damon bailey would be dq'd bc he never played in the pros. but henderson, jackson, and cal cheaney are all hall eligible.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 24 July 2022 20:39 (two weeks ago) link

Damon was a really good all around player, but the problem was he was a 6-3 forward. Dude is like in the top 5 or 10 for every stat all time @ Indiana.

AJ Guyton is another favorite Hoosier that hung around the pros playing usually on dreg clubs.

One other Hoosier that had an interesting if future predictive career as a hard working pro is Dean Garrett. Dean was a transfer and the big guy was huge part of the '87 championship team, who got no look to the pros out of college but later played for the T-Wolves like after a decade in Europe. One of the early guys to take that route to the pros.

Rony Seikaly was a really good pro. I think he went to a couple All Star games didn't he? He was on some of the early good Heat teams and also played in the 87 championship game for Syracuse.

Saw this one more than a few times when I was playing in a band going to shows on the by-pass.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/wdrb.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/98/2987b2aa-f6fd-11ec-9ff0-4be0fe1fd359/62bb288488683.image.jpg?resize=750%2C584

One of these banners for Diane Sawyer used to be on a building right behind Third Street Dive when we played there I saw all the time.

Another player I loved as a kid watching the Pacers who definitely deserves to be in this type of hall (although he retired earlier) is Detlef Schrempf. That dude was THE first of his kind that big tall, all around baller that could shoot European. He was decent for Indiana and I get why they traded him, but he really got good in Seattle playing with the X man (& Sam Perkins) and won a Sixth man of the year.

Loved Sam Perkins and considering how well he could shoot 3s as a 7 footer, I think he could have been even better perhaps in this modern game.

earlnash, Monday, 25 July 2022 00:07 (two weeks ago) link

Fred Hoiberg - well loved player in his time with the Pacers and occasional 3 point line bench trigger man for the Bulls. I kinda think he should have never left coaching Iowa State.

Chuck Hayes deserves some respect, as that dude crawed out a long career playing tough ass defense for Houston after playing at UK. Him and Tayshaun were some of Tubby's best players, dudes that stayed 4 years and got better and played hard as nails. Tubby was a good coach, but he did not have the recruiting acumen to keep UK at the top. Dude did some good things in the community when he was in Lexington and it is remembered to this day, even though they many in the fanbase gave him way too much shit for not winning when he was the coach.

earlnash, Monday, 25 July 2022 00:12 (two weeks ago) link

Scott Skiles - speaking of "every decent Big 10 team has to have one saw cut white dude that the rest of the league's fans hate for dirty a$$ play and early onset male pattern baldness". Dude could flat out score.
Hated by both Purdue and IU fans for not going to either school.

This was back when Indiana HS basketball was the thing.

https://www.southbendtribune.com/story/sports/2022/03/26/scott-skiles-led-plymouth-team-shocked-gary-roosevelt-1982-indiana-basketball-state-championship/7153680001/

earlnash, Monday, 25 July 2022 00:19 (two weeks ago) link

i voted

Spottie, Monday, 25 July 2022 18:35 (two weeks ago) link

received! we now have a 4-way tie for 3rd which if u do maths that means theres a 6th person who cannot get in. we need more votes to break the ties.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 25 July 2022 19:06 (two weeks ago) link

voted

earlnash, Monday, 25 July 2022 23:47 (two weeks ago) link

got it!

that 4-way tie has just moved into a tie for 4th-7th place

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 25 July 2022 23:53 (two weeks ago) link

27 different players have received votes so far!

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 25 July 2022 23:53 (two weeks ago) link

It's the 5th Annual I Love Hoops NBA Role Player Hollafame - TIEBREAKER FLASH POLL

we're gonna do this the hard way

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:25 (two weeks ago) link


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