shhhhh secret thread to talk about music without getting into a high-pitched ilm shriekfest on whatever thread is going on atm

Most of this stuff I'm just like "I'm sure this is great but it's just not my thing" but I listened to the Paramore songs because I thought they were a "rock band" and they are so awful.

Ugh I feel like I'm being so negative on this thread, sorry. I don't know why these polls bring out the worst in me. And I knew ahead of time the tracks poll would be weighted toward stuff I don't like/care about and it still made me angry.

This is the thread for being negative without starting a big fight, though, right?

I agree on Paramore - I was led to believe that they'd added pop to their rock, not just taken away the rock completely. Very disappointing.

whoever called them nu-Roxette on the poll thread was so, so OTM

the reactions from some people on the thread are hilarious, like anytime something that isn't pop enough shows up it's like a DJ dropped a bad song into their rave.

The lyrics for "Still Into You" are too obvious and the music does nothing for me. I can see how it would have broad appeal but I prefer my romance several steps removed from "I remember meeting your mom" and I like my rock music to rock a little more.
Oh well. Not my thing.

Paramore reminds me of No Doubt.

Paramore reminds me of No Doubt.

― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:15 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i said this on the poll thread! no doubt probably still had better songs tho.

Paramore reminds me of No Doubt.

― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:15 PM (30 minutes ago)

Oh there we go! That is the missing link.

there was a run of 3 songs earlier today where the vocals sounded almost exactly the same all by 3 different acts. I like the backing music on Sky Ferreira tracks better than most of the other stuff of her ilk, but whoever compared her to Suicide is just .... talk about serious disappointment of the Analympics/Animalympics variety

hahaha yeah that threw me off

i might start a poll thread for "most Rong statement" from the trax poll thread

nominees include:
Sky Ferreira - Suicide comparison
dog latin's Hot Fruit - Ascension comment
j0rdy's insight about swastikas

pls add
Paramore = poignant love song

i guess that's not as rong as the others

hot fruit/coltrane definitely brought the most lols for me

maybe it is poignant to the 15 yr old girls I saw at Target the other day who looked like they listen to Paramore

dog latin's Hot Fruit - Ascension comment

Haha, yeah, I loved this. A champion move.

probably "pompous drumming" should also go on the list

yeah, it's definitely poignant to someone, just not me and i am not fit to be an arbiter of poignance on this planet or any other.

which song featured pompous drumming?

lol deafheaven i think, where the drumming is pretty workmanlike and dull for the genre

really not feeling many of the songs on the tracks-list. making me feel old and unhip, i guess.

and deafheaven gives me a headache, so i know i'm old.

definitely made me feel my age -- mainly because of how retro a lot of things were.

unhip - nah dude, you voted for Vatican Shadow

any vatican shadow or prurient tracks make the list

whoa synchronicity xp

no (xp)

I mean, i posted that before reading any posts ittxp

maybe the album will make it, it rules.

no chance.

i also don't get the over-the-top love for one artist in particular. i mean, i like her, too, but not

I WOKE UP THIS WAY
I WOKE UP THIS WAY

levels of love.

I am totally singing "I woke up this way" next time that song comes on

that isn't the lyric, is it? dammit. i like this album, i swear.

"baby I was born like this"

something something SURFBOARD SURFBOARD

I am not going to lie, it is incredibly thrilling and life-affirming to me to hear one of the biggest pop stars of our time singing "I'm so brown/Bow down bitches"; it's basically the early/mid 90s all over again

what about that line resonated with you? not being snarky at all; genuinely curious.

The past... 2+? years have seen online conversations about feminism dominated by white people who seem hell-bent on making people of color outcasts/invisible, discounting their opinions, attempting to silence their concerns and generally make people of color "know their place", which is subservient to prominent white, oftentimes male feminists. There was an entire blowup around Hugo Schwyzer, for example, where he basically wormed his way into feminist circles in order to take advantage of women and, whenever called on it, would deflect criticism/focus to a person of color and attack them for not being good allies, and many white women ate it up until a pretty spectacular implosion where all of his awfulness and manipulations were laid bare, leaving the women who complicitly allowed or actively encouraged him in his behavior high and dry. There was also the situation with Tim Wise blowing up on Facebook about how sick he was of people of color not being more grateful to him for being a white man making a living off of championing their cause by taking up as many speaking engagements about the problems/issues facing people of color as he could.

Watching all of these situations, and watching people criticize Beyonce for singing about how much she enjoys her marriage, and having Beyonce come back fists swinging with that song is a gigantic, cathartic release; a massive "fuck you" by proxy to the machinery of this country which lynched my great-grandfather for the crime of not giving up his bus seat to a white man. That is why that song/line resonates with me.

or to put it more simply, if you're rolling your eyes at that line or the statement Beyonce is making with her album, remember that slavery was not actually illegal until 1943 and then shut the fuck up

i'm not rolling my eyes at that line.

(or the statement beyonce is making with the album. i hadn't gotten that statement from the album, but that's not to say it isn't there).

that wasn't a "you" you (although I appreciate that it sounded that way)

understood.

holy fuck why wasn't I posting here instead. consider yourselves spared I guess but I p much agree with jjj on 100% of these songs

well, we're still waiting for him to get to hot fruit

I'd rather hear Hot Fruit than another dull UK diva

And yes, I agree that there was a distinct lack of decent rock tracks or anything with some kind of heaviness or edge to it. I don't think that's really ILMs fault because there simply wasn't a ton of stuff like that that I was drawn to this year.

The weird thing is that this was a really good year for me and music but now I'm feeling pretty blah

Betty who - somebody loves you - what the hell is wrong with you people

― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ok I should expand. This is the sort of shit that made me pissed when it would stink up Americas top 40 when I was an early teen. Lifeless anthemic dumb shit about nothing backed with paid intern synth lines, "wacky" retro multi tap reverb vocals. Plenty of stuff that I haven't liked at all, but this is the first one to make me actively mad at you guys.

― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw jjj this was imo the worst thing out of many very bad things on the entire list & completely just completely unbelievably boggle-eyedly terrible in every conceivable way

love betty who, but mostly for 'you're in love' (which only received the one vote from me.) 'somebody loves you' isn't as good but it had that viral video so there it was.

Betty Who is supposed to be a joke or parody or something, non?

I do like that Bunji Garlin thing although its catchiness is starting to do me 'ead in.