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actually you'd probably end up as Susan, wouldn't you

but both John and I would be Edwin

at least we can agree that FB would be Lucy

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel like I've been insulted somehow but now I have to go re-read a book to remind myself how that has happened...

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Susan was the independent-minded older sister who stopped believing in Narnia

In The Last Battle, Susan is conspicuous by her absence. Peter says that she is "no longer a friend of Narnia", and (in Jill Pole's words) "she's interested in nothing now-a-days except nylons and lipstick and invitations." Similarly, Eustace Scrubb quotes her as saying, "What wonderful memories you have! Fancy you still thinking about all those funny games we used to play when we were children," and Polly Plummer adds, "She wasted all her school time wanting to be the age she is now, and she'll waste all the rest of her life trying to stay that age. Her whole idea is to race on to the silliest time of one's life as quick as she can and then stop there as long as she can." Thus, Susan does not enter the real Narnia with the others at the end of the series.

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, yep, that's me... well maybe not the nylons

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe if I only believed in Narnia I could not kill every gumdrop tree I try to plant ;_;

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

"...nylons and lipstick and invitations." Sounds like a Bryan Ferry lyric.

Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

reading that paragraph reminded me how much I hated all the Narnia travelers by the end of the series

like, shut up you judgy fucks, only one of you actually knows how to LIVE and the rest of you are actually dead

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ more evidence that I desperately need to re-read? Apparently the whole series fell through the gigantic gap in my memory.

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Can I just go ahead and blame nursing school? Because that is my inclination.

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

they're all actually dead in the end, but susan doesnt get to heaven iirc

Hot cross buns exist, and are the only thing we ever actually thanked the british for i think

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

The proselytising in the Narnia books got a little tedious after awhile.

Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I guarantee that when you reread, you will find yourself rooting for most of them to die

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, but at the time i think it would have gone over most readers' heads.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

it's interesting because in many ways it's the exact opposite of Pullman's His Dark Materials but at some point near the end of both you find yourself really rooting for an apocalypse to come sweeping through and get rid of all the people doing things you think are stupid

or maybe that's just me

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

His Dark Materials I remember a little better - first book was ace, second one was pretty good, third one was still creative but I remember thinking the end was disappointing

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

felt the same way about 'green eggs and ham'

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Lately I've gotten the notion while reading fiction that writing a good ending is really, really difficult. I've run into trite endings and a few that didn't make any sense at all.

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

xp LOL

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

It started early for you, then.

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i want to say yes.....

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Damned fish in '1 fish, 2 fish' got on my nerves, too.

Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

agree with you on endings, particularly with anything fantasy-y

There has to be a word for that

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Stephen King Syndrome

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

lol, funnily enough I was thinking specifically of a book by Stephen King's son, Joe Hill (_Horns_). Great concept, the end is a mishmash of wtf happened?

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

At least w Stephen King I usually understand what he was trying to get at...

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

no, i meant fantasy-y

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Pat endings don't satisfy. Many non-ending endings don't satisfy. Improbable endings don't satisfy. One of the things I most adored about Maugham short stories as a kid was how often they had perfect endings.

Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Also took it into my head to read the first _30 Days of Night_ graphic novel which was all great concept and terrible everything else.

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

the movie is actually pretty decent

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Michael, that's how I felt about Ray Bradbury short stories when I was younger, but now I'm afraid to go back and re-read them because I'm afraid I'll think they suck now

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

they don't, not at all

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"The Veldt" is still terrifying

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Dan - it's in my Netflix queue, just haven't been in a vampire-y mood since reading that. Loved the first two _Walking Dead_ graphic novels and am lobbying for more of them for Mother's Day.

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, man, "The Veldt" is what got me hooked...

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to go to the library and use the CARD CATALOG to find Bradbury books that weren't on the HSTNGS shelves. I remember using little slips of paper to make requests. Sometimes it even worked!

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.veddma.com/veddma/Veldt.htm

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, I love the internets...

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah after a bunch of musing I recently realized that in retrospect I pretty much hated the Panera series as well.

broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

well what do you expect when you read a series that's about Caesar salad flavored coffee drinks?

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

to be up all night burping anchovies

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel like there's probably some lower GI effects possible here, too, but I'll refrain from elaborating.

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I come to bury caeser, not to make pastries and beverages that taste like him

broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

there's an obvious, environmentally conscious solution here that will save you time...

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

SOYLENT GREEN IS CAESAR!!!

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

btw everyone here loves me enough to go buy a copy of The Mountain Goats' All Eternals Deck this week, right

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

You get a royalty? Niiiice, I figured you got a flat fee.

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

no royalties, I just want to be able to say "I was on an album that debuted in Billboard's Top 200"

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, I was making a horribly formed not-even-a-joke. Congrats on being on the record, btw!

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

^_^ TY

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa, I didn't know about that! Cool!!!

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link


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