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Who is John dear?

Do I have a secret cousin, or an imaginary uncle?

Yay!!

Yeah, so I missed a comma.

I know it's confusing when I say nice things to my good friend John from high school, but it's that kind of day.

Wait, maybe you DO have a secret uncle...

doesn't JOHN DEAR make tractors? maybe you have a secret RICH uncle.

also, src, i'm glad your crazy walking-to-work person is OKAY.

Tractors are on farms...farms have lambies and bunnies on them...I think you are right and I like this uncle very much!

ban^^

Que knows the score

Thanks lxy. I married a CRAZY PERSON, but I'm sure it will all be fine.

Well, except that something is very wrong with John, but if he's happy in his fantasy land with bunnies, who am I to judge.

Going to go be blinded so that eye doctor can admire my beautiful retina up close. Looking forward to an evening of listening to the tv blather on about Iowa. The upside is that I won't have a clear view of Tucker Carlson.

Also, how sick is it that I'm more interested in the Republican results this year. It just seems so up in the air. (but please please a good D result, Iowa)

IA caucus reporting is kind of boring until a majority of the caucus doors open up later tonight.

Although the report that entry polls indicate that 60% of the Rep. caucus goers were willing to specifically identify as "evangelical christian" is pretty exciting.

I am blind as a freaking bat you guys

Wish you were here so I could ply you with booze and we could all perform Zell Miller impersonations.

Although Zell could probably see, so maybe I'd have to pretend to be Strom Thurmond.

AP says Huckabee has won Iowa, Romney has conceded.

virginia tech could probably go ahead and concede the orange bowl, as well

OH SNAP! a picture thread

also true however

U can't figure out if Huckabee is comic relief or a serious threat to, uh, everything.

Also, god do I wish there was no writer's strike going on right now. Or that I was really close friends with Darrell Hammond.

Obama with Clinton in third behind Edwards. Clinton's position going into NH, relative to Edwards, could change, but I'm OK with the results so far.

I genuinely don't think any of the republicans in the running pose much of a threat this go-round. then again, I couldn't have imagined that bush could "win" against gore until it actually happened

Obama called as winner with 37% by AP 84% reporting

Sorry to go all politico info on the bump thread, but that ILE presidential thread is scary and full of nutjob wonks.

Well, plus it moves too fast and I don't know those people! (suddenly I'm shy?!)

I'm happy with these results. I don't have a personal problem with HRC, but here's the deal: REALLY want to end the Bush/Clinton/Hatfield/McCoy b.s.

Plus Hillary is just nowhere near as talented as her husband, who is so flawed, but sooooo talented. I just don't want to go back to the 90s all that much.

Oh, and anything that makes Dick Morris look stupid makes me happy.

Obama called as winner with 37% by AP 84% reporting

THIS IS AWESOME

Who knows where the primary relults will go from here, but this is good for Dems. Fricking Thompson is pulling third behind Huckabee and Romney.

lxy, it IS really exciting. I just can't let myself get too excited about it. I don't know if that is cynicism or what, but I don't let myself get too invested or hopeful anymore.

Hi Australians, we're electing a new douchebag next year to run our country into the ground next year, and the first step in that process is seeing what a bunch of crazed bible-chewing rednecks think is the path to the future, in case you were wondering.

haha xpost yes perhaps cynicism on my part too.

FB OTM

Also, next time I cry for a week after an election, FB has my permission to roundly mock me, and then make me a strong cocktail.

John hearts Iowa.

FB, in a world where evangelicals are a major mobilizing force on the Republican side, in what possible way is a crushing Huckabee victory good for the Democrats?

dude it's awesome! huckabee is basically going to split the vote for conservatives and the rest of them are either going to have to stay home or vote Dem!

(if he's nominated obv)

xpost to John That is what freaks me about Huckabee: he comes off like a very Christian dumbass. The last guy that did that wound up President for 8 years.

Tom, I hope you're right. Republicans are so good at falling in line; I'd like to see that NOT happen again.

I should add that Tom is right in that a LOT of Republicans have been freaking publicly about Huckabee since he started to gain traction. I can't see them voting for Dems, but in my little dream, they stay home on election day.

I always feel like the scary groundswell of 18-22 year old myspace "Christian Others" is woefully underrated by the coasts. Nothing personal, but I meet these people on a regular basis, and they scare the hell out of me.

they are as roaches. eek eek.

dubya being a christian dumbass had a lot to do with it but also he got big bonus points for being 1) not clinton, 2) not kerry, 3) part of a giant party conspiracy to fuck up the election process

Huckabee the candidate will be better for the future of the Dems than Huckabee the dropout organizer of Christian Coalition 2.0.

I want to know where John is going to meet young Christians. (omg, the horrible jokes I am not making because I am basically half-blind still)

Tom, true on all counts, plus he had the "Bush" name (I really don't know why people felt nostalgia for the first President Bush, but whatever). But still. It unnerves me. I don't want to spend another bunch of years cringing in embarrassment whenever the President opens his mouth.

FB... you might be right. I hope so.

The Republicans have been good about falling in line, but there are a lot of fissures right now and, honestly, all of their candidates expose those fissures. Huckabee is not ready for November. Among his strengths, however, are his appeal as a socially conservative, economically moderate populist. Classic stuff with a lot of midland appeal, but I don't think the social conservatives are actually ready for a populist message. Government is bad and taxes are oppression--this is still being preached from a nlot of pulpits.

FB I think it partly freaks me because a whole lot of my mother's side of the family totally falls into that social conservative/don't care about the rest of it thing. (Honestly I think that if Bush ate a child's brain on live television, they'd applaud it). They are primarily Catholic, not evangelical, but wow they will do whatever the R in charge says.

I do love love love the exposure of the R fault lines, though, absolutely. I think I'm just too close (family-wise) to too many people who will happily vote for whatever the Republicans tell them to vote for.