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My feet go to shit if I walk around in them. Also, yes, people who wear them in public should be run over by trains.

they're for bumming around at home in.

not womg i r so cuet and twee wearing mah uggz to the supermarket with mah trackie daxx.

You know?

Having said that I do wear flip-flops (as you call them) pretty much everywhere.

you are a wise man, wilter

jandals will fuck your feet in your old age. please stop wearing them.

Okay, what in god's name is a "jandal?"

haha 'jandals' are what you guys call 'flip flops' and the aussies call 'thongs' (i think)

Ah, clarity! In the US "flip flops" and "thongs" are two very different items.

ha yes that's why i opted to call them flipflops.

lol wtf "jandals."

actually, my parents used to call flip flops "thongs" when i was growing up, so that's what i called them for a long time. and my parents aren't from australia. "flip flops" is way more common, though.

my stepdad called them thongs up until a year ago but stopped cuz his students would laugh at him

(i called em thongs too up until a few years ago but y'know times change and ya gotta keep up. must be a west coast thing)

i never wear them so i refuse to call them anything except BAD FOR YOUR FEET PEOPLE

i've heard them called thongs before.

rr, not that i would wear these, but what about croc flops?

obv anything croc related is to be avoided.

NO CROCS

omg apparently the nz olympic team will be wearing crocs for the opening ceremony HOW EMBARRASSING!!

Shoes from Crocs, the much-maligned plastic clog manufacturer, will be worn by New Zealand Olympians as part of their official uniform - a decision that has appalled prominent fashionistas.

Female athletes will wear the "sueded alice" model - a suede-topped, plastic-soled shoe - for the opening ceremony and all athletes will wear the "beach" model - a version of the famous plastic slipper with holes in - around the games village.

Olympic chef de mission Dave Currie confirmed the sueded alice Crocs would form part of the official uniform being unveiled at a function at an Auckland winery on April 30. He said the opening ceremony Crocs would be "very stylish" and "not the ones with the holes in them", and an athlete design panel had collaborated on the uniform choice, which he described as "sensational".

However, fashion designer Denise L'Estrange Corbet says she is horrified the Olympic athletes will wear Crocs.

"They are the ugliest piece of footwear ever invented. I know people who wear them say they are comfortable, but I'm sure there are more comfortable shoes that you can put on your feet to make your feet look attractive, not the ugliest, widest green feet on the planet.

"They are actually one thing I would like to put in a pile and blow up." She says a New Zealand-designed shoe would be more appropriate.

"All the other Olympic teams will look smart and wear trainers, and we'll be plodding along with these big, plastic, ugly, hideous, vile things. They are so ugly they should be banned. You might as well put a couple of bricks on your feet," she said.

Designer Jane Daniels wouldn't comment on the Olympic shoes but thought the original Crocs would join a host of other fashion nightmares from recent years.

"I'm sure people will look back on this era and wonder what we were thinking with long, baggy shorts, heavy footwear and Crocs."

John Robertson, the sales director for New Zealand women's shoe manufacturer Kumfs, says he doesn't have a particular problem with Crocs or the fact they are made overseas, because 98% of the country's shoes are not manufactured in New Zealand.

"But it would have been nice to have a shot at supplying [the female athletes]," he said.

Crocs have been attacked not only as a style disaster, but also for creating static electricity shocks, getting caught in escalators and being too dangerous for hospital staff to wear.

Originally invented in 2002 by three Americans as a boat shoe, they went worldwide the following year and finally reached New Zealand in 2005.

I have seen a few normal-looking people in croc flops lately which is distressing.

occasionally i wish i was a health care professional so i could wear pajamasscrubs and ugly but comfortable shoes to work every day.

tza there are comfy stylish shoes out there! eccos aren't as bad as ppl make out, plus a lot of them look gay in pics but actually look way better on yr feet.

eccos have always seemed comfy but i've never found the right pair in stores. maybe i'll check online.

I have hideous white nurse shoes that I wear to the hospital, along with white scrub pants that make my bottom half look huge. Our scrub tops are royal blue, though, and those are fine. All very comfortable.

There is no force on this earth that would get me to put crocs on my feet.

Someone just gave me a cute pair of eccos that were a bit too big for her...

i've seen nurses wearing crocs before, which kinda baffles me. there are so many bodily fluids that could so easily splash/ooze/pour down onto your feet that you'd think you'd want to wear footwear that didn't have holes in it.

plus they are SLIPPERY. this huge preggo woman came in awhile ago wearing crocs and was all 'sell me some nonslip sandals plz' because she had fallen over three times in her crocs.

i think that zappos website has lots of eccos and free shipping xpost

omg slippery plus pregnant is how I wound up with broken bones. NOT GOOD.

I have never tried on crocs, but my best friend swears by them. I just cannot get past their hideousness myself. I think someone told me that they make special crocs without holes for health care providers, but I might have made that up in my head, I guess. NO MATTER TO ME, I CANNOT PUT THEM ON MY FEET. NO

oh yikes, sara that sounds scary!

Yes, crocs are scary no matter how you look at them. ;)

The solution to all this is obvious -- detachable feet. Er.

We'll start with Ned's feet and go from there.

bedtime bump

insomnia bump. this is esp shit bc i have to get up in less than 3 hours.

getting up sucks

insomnia sucks more. sorry 4 u :(

Morning Nick, morning sleepless American chums. What do we all think about the necessity or otherwise of ironing (in a non-formal context)?

the last time i ironed something was probably more than 10 years ago

Haha! I don't do it very often but I actually get into a bit of a zen state if I have a lot to iron - by the third shirt my mind is free of worldly concerns. A|nd it's more productive than meditation.

I find ironing to be a less objectionable task than I do many other chores. In fact I feel there to be an immediate, recognizable reward to ironing: "ZOMG this was all creasy and now is COMPLETELY free from crease!"

Today however, I am wearing a naturally crease-free shirt that doesn't require ironing. I don't entirely trust it.

OH SHIT i lied i used to iron an ex's shirts about 6 yrs ago cuz i am the best gf ever. except i could never do it right and there would still always be creases. but ya know, at least i TRIED.

hey drunky, the last i heard from you was POETRY IS GOOOOOOOOD or something. how was your hangover?

In the cold, sober light of morning I stand by that statement. The hangover was not too bad fanks, although I have a bit of a sniffle so my head is a bit foggy anyway.

the only solution is to drink more in order to kill those cold-causing bacteria.

I would like to add to the ironing discussion that I never really do "ironing", as in a whole lot at once, rather I iron as I need to. Well that was worth typing wasn't it.?

I also quite like topless ironing but that may be TMI

I'm tempted to start bringing in a hipflask. Apparently the mayor of London drinks whisky in meetings so if it's good enough for him...

topless ironing

right-o

it's like topless darts but, y'know, ironing.

oh now i totally understand