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So what are your fav webcomics?

Fred (Fred), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Sluggy Freelance and Something Positive are the two comics on the list I call "these used to be my favorite comics of any kind but somehow I just got sick of them to the point that I don't read them anymore: in Sluggy's case, I think the strip simply jumped the shark and outlived its wit (which means the archived strips are still good); with SP, it's a kind of humor that I only find funny in small and infrequent doses, and too much of it reads like the stuff sad, bright 19 year old boys write.

MegaTokyo has been on the verge of joining that list for about two years, but I keep reading it.

I sound so negative now! Bobbins was great, and is no longer being written; but John does Scary Go Round now, which is sometimes better, and uses many of the same characters. Both of them are strips that are better once you've read them for a couple weeks -- not for continuity/plot reasons like with so many of the popular webcomics, but because you get the rhythm of it.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

(The three main drives behind my taste in webcomics, I've found, eliminate a lot of what's out there:

1) I don't have the time or interest to read a year's worth of archives to catch up on the story. I have two piles of books next to my desk I've been meaning to read, and a nice town library.

2) I have an allergic reaction to self-righteousness, and to the things people write to illustrate their opinions on whatever it is that's near and dear to them this week. This is why I don't read the syndicated strip Frazz anymore, either.

3) People who are constantly unhappy, angry, depressed, or under the influence of teenage hormones produce terrible art more often than not, but will frequently find other unhappy, angry, depressed, or teenage people to cheer them on.

)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.achewood.com/ - Everyone must know this one by now, right?
http://www.bitterfilms.com/anesthetics.html - "I am removing your very large hat because there is something hidden underneath. My legs grow long so that I can do this."

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Tep, when do you think Sluggy Freelance jumped the shark?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

ha ha ha ha, that achewood is funny.

i visit get your war on and explodingdog. the 2nd one isn't so much a comic as it is art. the guy makes pictures based on words or a sentence people send him. cool.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Exploding Dog is great. I used to check out a lot of webcomics, but now it's basically down to ED and Penny Arcade.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not sure if there's a specific jumping-the-shark moment for Sluggy or if it just slowly gathered up so much continuity that too much time had to be spent on "maintaining" characters, plotlines, etc., with too little spent on the funny. I know that the first storyline where I started to think "okay, this is just going on WAY too long" was Kitten, but I kept reading it for ... maybe a year? ... after that.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha KITTEN was the storyline that introduced me to the comic!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

See, that'd be okay though! (Although I hope you've read the archives -- make time to, if you haven't.) It's not that it was a terrible story, exactly, just that it dragged on and on, and after that there seemed to be more and more slow-moving story arcs, with Pete inevitably feeling exhausted and uninspired afterwards.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

OF COURSE I read the archives! I don't think I did any work for a week because I was reading the archives.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Couldn't let this thread go without a mention of Daily Dinosaur Comics...

Vic Fluro, Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Just making sure! What would you say, is pre-Kitten (or some other cutoff point) Sluggy better than post-Kitten, or is it just me?

(Tell us more about Daily Dinosaur Comics, Vic? That's the only one mentioned so far that I haven't heard of.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

The power of linking is beyond me but if you type the words 'daily dinosaur' into Google then push the 'I feel lucky' button, you'll get there.

Essentially it's a strip which uses the same pictures every day, only changing the words. Withing this limitation it crafts strips of unearthly beauty.

Vic Fluro, Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I almost forgot - go to http://beatgirlcomics.blogspot.com/ for some top thrills from the archives!

Vic Fluro, Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Funnily enough, I think that Sluggy was full-on fantastic right up to the point where I started reading it (some time in the summer of 2001). Once I had to wait for the storylines to unfold in real time as opposed to reading them in one fell swoop, it was much less enjoyable; the strip is really much more suited towards a comic book format than a daily format (certain classic bits excepted, like the introduction of Sasha to Gwynn in 2001).

Actually, I've scanned back through the archives and stuff that I thought was kind of "meh" in the daily format is great when you read it in a big chunk, like the whole thing with the haunted house and the Harry Potter parodies.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm a big fan of PvP by Scott Kurtz , but it might not appeal to everybody.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I've never read Sluggy before, but continuity aside, that page is pretty amusing.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link

PVP is addictive but annoying in its tweeness, its desperation to pull all possible punches whatsoever and its unfailing attacks on all other small press and self-published comics. For god's sake, Kurtz, you ARE exactly what you're unfunnily mocking!

That hasn't stopped me from digging through the entire archive like a big fool, so it must have something going for it, much like a car crash.

Vic Fluro, Friday, 6 August 2004 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Btw, I tried to read some of the Megatokyo archives at one point, and while a couple of the early ones were funny, it turned into the most TWEE THING I'VE EVER READ and I can't understand what people see in it, unless they're trying to validate their crushes on underage Japanese schoolgirls.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link

The thing that's great about Sluggy is the way it veers from slapstick and punning to horror/suspense within its storylines. Regardless of whether it's making me crack up or scaring the shit out of me, it's always entertaining (actually, a couple of the storylines would make great movies).

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I completely forgot about PvP because I read it on a feed with the syndicated comics I read. Likewise, for the same reason I forgot about Sinfest, even though I had ordered the second Sinfest book on the very day this thread started. It has a lot of meh days, but it's one of the best webcomics that doesn't rely on long-running storylines, I think. (Oh, I used to really love Exploitation Now -- http://www.exploitationnow.net, probably? -- but it's been cancelled for ages now, and I wasn't really into the guy's new strip.)

PvP does have way too many moments where Kurtz-the-guy overshadows Kurtz-the-cartoonist, but the best moments are still better than most current newspaper comics. (I realize that these days that's faint praise.)

MegaTokyo, I have no idea how to explain. A lot of weeks, I skip it altogether, and then start reading again without catching up on the old strips. It was definitely better in the beginning, and the art isn't consistent enough any more for that to be my reason for reading. I dunno. You've got me.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I also visit Jason's Mjau Mjau site occationally. You can scroll back through his strips. Seems like he only posts a new strip once a month or some crap like that.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Another one I forgot -- a web graphic novel, so to speak -- When I Am King, one of the few things on Earth I would call "delightful."

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

POKEY!

GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!!! HELLO, SEXXY WORLD!!!!!

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 7 August 2004 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey Chris can u give the link to your webcomic?

Fred (Fred), Saturday, 7 August 2004 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.flim.com/flim/article.html?a=001&t=shadylane

It's old.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha! It's cool! Thanks.

Fred (Fred), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

No no, thank you. Maybe I'll getting around to putting the other 20 or so episodes up someday.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

What webcomics are you guys currently reading? (guilty pleasure + not) Like anything you've still got on your RSS feed or do that few month at a time reading session thing? Here are all of mine (way more guilty pleasure* than actual pleasure at this point):

Achewood
Comic Critics (thru the Comics Should Be Good feed)
Pearls Before Swine (newspaper comic, not webcomic, but in my RSS feed)
Penny Arcade
PvP
Questionable Content
Tom Tomorrow
xkcd
Medium Large
Happle Tea

*Meaning here that it gave me pleasure at one point, or I fell into soap opera'y relationship to the comic and now I just read it because I've been reading it for so long. Only comics in this list I'd strongly go to bat for in the last year are Medium Large + Achewood. Looking for something new and exciting!

Mordy, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:28 (eight years ago) link

Oh, and of course Axe Cop, but I only read that once in awhile.

Mordy, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:29 (eight years ago) link

I'm not sure if my not knowing a word of russian is coloring my view, but I can't think of a better site than caricatura.ru

http://caricatura.ru/parad/vasilenko/pic/15489.gif

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:35 (eight years ago) link

http://caricatura.ru/black/alex_gordin/pic/684.jpg

I really like that whoever did this probably did it during a boring lecture on the back of the xeroxed study materials.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:44 (eight years ago) link

I think my favorite is Dinosaur Comics!

could be a bad day for (Abbott), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:46 (eight years ago) link

I used to read Dinosaur Comics every day, but the shtick wears off imo after awhile.

Mordy, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:59 (eight years ago) link

i should stress that the comics on caricatura.ru have a wider range than just people brandishing weapons. (no offense to axe cop)

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 23:00 (eight years ago) link

There seems to be a huge concern in axe cop about people joining each other's teams and whatnot -- it is secretly a comic about the formation of community!

Mordy, Friday, 23 July 2010 11:14 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Just noticed that Jason Little's Motel Art Improvement Service (aka Bee) is going to print via Dark Horse next month... good for him!

Nhex, Friday, 5 November 2010 20:44 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

http://marvel.com/news/story/15347/fear_itself_deadpool

Chris Hastings (Dr. McNinja) writing Deadpool

Nhex, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 21:57 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

http://www.romanticallyapocalyptic.com/

I love it.

Mordy, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:58 (eight years ago) link

Kerr found this one and posted it on the chatz thread. It's amazing:
http://nedroid.com/2009/05/party-cat-full-series/

Mordy, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:06 (eight years ago) link

The Nedroid stuff is hilarious sometimes.

I think the only webcomic I read regularly now is Hark, A Vagrant. http://www.harkavagrant.com/

Bill, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:16 (eight years ago) link

Kate Beaton is awesome.

Anybody ever read Bad Machinery? A lot of webcomics wear out their welcome with me really quickly, but Bad machinery is a long-form serial narrative and quite enjoyable if you don't mind something that adults and teens could both like: http://scarygoround.com/index.php?date=20090921. That narration drops out really quickly (was surprised to see it there).

rob, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:39 (eight years ago) link

Whoa - I didn't even know John Allison had anything new. I loved Bobbins and Scary Go Round, I don't know when I lost track of him!

Bill, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:51 (eight years ago) link

OH man, I envy you getting to read a whole bunch of it at your own pace! I've not read his earlier stuff, but my brother who reads a lot of webcomics thinks Bad Machinery is a big step up from SGR.

rob, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:55 (eight years ago) link

SGR definitely went through good and bad patches. I really don't know how I missed this! This is a good week to find out about this, I have a big block of free time on Thursday.

Bill, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 00:00 (eight years ago) link

I've been digging Allison's work for a few years now -- I really think he's brilliant.

Daily webcomic checks: Bad Machinery, Diesel Sweeties, Scenes from a Multiverse*, WIGU and/or Overcompensating depending on what Rowland is focusing on at the time.

*currently sporadic while Rosenberg's wife is going through a difficult pregnancy

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 00:01 (eight years ago) link

A lot of webcomics wear out their welcome with me really quickly

Also, I'm with you on this. This was probably what happened with me and Sluggy Freelance, mentioned at the top of the thread, and I still have Order of the Stick in Google Reader because when I first saw it I thought the whole conceit of "D&D characters talk and think in game-mechanics terms" was hilarious, but I haven't actually clicked on the link to read the comic in ages. I don't think it got worse, the novelty just wore off.

Bill, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 00:04 (eight years ago) link

all yall finding this stuff intolerable really need to check out vgcats to recalibrate.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 30 July 2012 03:52 (six years ago) link

brb

pplains, Monday, 30 July 2012 04:01 (six years ago) link

pplains, i like you, but i just don't get you

Nhex, Monday, 30 July 2012 04:06 (six years ago) link

I just want the damn things to be honest and funny. Don't try to pull at my heart strings, don't try to insert an out-of-nowhere pop reference as the only gag and don't try to fill space to fill space. All I ask.

VG Cats didn't thrill me, but I acknowledge that I was born during the Nixon administration. That said, this was funny:

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/100708.jpg

cuz we've all been there guys, amirite?

pplains, Monday, 30 July 2012 04:12 (six years ago) link

(And I'm not really some crazed rage-comicaholic. I remember when The Simpsons were known as the crudest thing on television and since then, I've seen Beavis & Butthead -> South Park (->Terrence & Phillip) -> all down the line to where we now have c&p'd panels with badly drawn Disney characters speaking in mangled text. Can't wait to see what comes next.)

pplains, Monday, 30 July 2012 04:16 (six years ago) link

Hey Whiney, when you try so hard to be an asshole on the internet, it affects people's "IRL life." The division isn't as clean as you'd like it to be.

bamcquern, Monday, 30 July 2012 05:14 (six years ago) link

yah, but we do have a general line of demarcation regarding people's jobs or unwanted conversation that connects their ILX username with their IRL names
so deep breath let's all be cool? feel free to call each other dicks maybe? i hear that's what the kids are doing these days

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 July 2012 05:19 (six years ago) link

or ask dickish q's to whiney on the "whiney q&a" thread, instead of going off-topic in this thread clearly delineated for whiney to be a dick in

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Monday, 30 July 2012 05:25 (six years ago) link

The sweaty babies = classic surreal farce, not my tiptop favourite thing but I'll eat it up all day, sure. The same joke as eg Father Ted (which might be my tip top favourite thing, now that I think about it)

The apple store comic it's against = shit in a can. And totally filling space to fill space, the first two panels could be removed and it'd still be as funny which = no funny. And also with the pop culture reference that you hate?

Is it a thing where you see the art as being as bad in both, but twp is worse because it's trying?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 July 2012 05:25 (six years ago) link

Cuh, some of us were doing comics drawn badly for humorous effect years before these 4chan upstarts.

However, comics where the creators actually give a shit about quality can also be worthwhile. Such as Nedroid or Gunnerkrigg Court.

Who knows, perhaps there is room for both in this world. IMAGINE THAT!

Pheeel, Monday, 30 July 2012 09:43 (six years ago) link

Hey Whiney, when you try so hard to be an asshole on the internet, it affects people's "IRL life." The division isn't as clean as you'd like it to be.
--bamcquern

I'm making fun of web comics and you're making fun of my job and career and personal life. There's a clear, unblurry distinction there and if you can't see it, maybe the moderators can

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 July 2012 12:12 (six years ago) link

Sorry for response, didn't see that forks covered this... Carry on, thread.

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 July 2012 12:14 (six years ago) link

Ha, goaste. I was in love with their versions of Nemi strips.

xposts

emil.y, Monday, 30 July 2012 12:17 (six years ago) link

hey whiney can you tell us why Pup and Bodyworld and When I Am King are shit?

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Monday, 30 July 2012 13:35 (six years ago) link

When did WGW go off script and get personal with anyone here? Unless you're all taking these twee-ass strips to heart and finding your chivalry threatened when they're called out for the shit they are.

I probably need to just take my business over to this thread since both the dolans and the "kids have fun" strips can join hands together and be as one there:

What's the worst online comic strip?

pplains, Monday, 30 July 2012 13:56 (six years ago) link

honestly, i'm just tired of seeing him troll every thread. dude needs to chill (on ILX, i have no business knowing about his personal life)

Nhex, Monday, 30 July 2012 16:07 (six years ago) link

Whiney only trolls on the threads where I disagree with him.

pplains, Monday, 30 July 2012 16:14 (six years ago) link

Haha, not true at all.

Nhex, Monday, 30 July 2012 16:28 (six years ago) link

goofy pls

am0n, Monday, 30 July 2012 16:29 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/O0E87.png

Philip Nunez, Monday, 30 July 2012 17:32 (six years ago) link

http://harkavagrant.com/nonsense/SF1.jpg

Mordy, Monday, 6 August 2012 02:42 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Patrick Farley's NSFW flash comic The First Word is a hold-onto-your-hats bit of amazement. Wow.

What percentage of my speech is meaningful? (R Baez), Sunday, 25 November 2012 16:57 (six years ago) link

whoa, neat. some inventive animations/transitions

Nhex, Sunday, 25 November 2012 17:53 (six years ago) link

man, that guy's been doing those FOREVER; i remember apocamon from what must've been just around 2000

(alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:37 (six years ago) link

tbf though, this is a lot better IMO than the stuff he did in the early '00s

Nhex, Sunday, 25 November 2012 21:02 (six years ago) link

oh no doubt! definitely channeling some corben there.

(alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:44 (six years ago) link

corben comparison OTM

What percentage of my speech is meaningful? (R Baez), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:57 (six years ago) link

two months pass...
one month passes...

http://vimeo.com/58412851

the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 March 2013 16:47 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

mordy. mordy. no

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 04:51 (six years ago) link

Nhex and I finally agree on something itt.

pplains, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 15:17 (six years ago) link

Akkkkk, alterna-lit dudes who write fan-fiction, possibly the worst form of art outside of latte foam sculptures

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 22:07 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

http://lamezone.net/cosm/img/cosm22.png

bamcquern, Friday, 20 December 2013 04:19 (five years ago) link

yeah, that was my reaction.

Nhex, Friday, 20 December 2013 05:17 (five years ago) link

reminds me of some of the study group stuff

Mordy , Friday, 20 December 2013 05:19 (five years ago) link

http://www.sassquach.com/journal/2013/11/4/boys-night.html

Dan I., Friday, 20 December 2013 14:44 (five years ago) link

yeah, that's written by john landis' kid, who also wrote the movie Chronicle

In January 2012, Variety reported that Disney picked up a pitch Landis made for a space adventure focusing on a brother and sister. The film is set to be produced by Wedding Crashers producer Andrew Panay.[20]

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 20 December 2013 16:16 (five years ago) link

Zathura 2!

Nhex, Friday, 20 December 2013 16:18 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

thanks for that nhex, i just power read the first two issues. it's very good!

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 September 2014 21:48 (four years ago) link

Strong Female Protagonist is A++ btw; highly recommended.
http://blankslatebooks.co.uk/zygote/masterplasty.html
http://harveyjames.tumblr.com/

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 October 2014 16:36 (four years ago) link

SFP is a gem, glad you like
this harvey james's stuff is pretty cool, great faces and color

Nhex, Saturday, 4 October 2014 01:26 (four years ago) link

I also power-read SFP, was fucking great. Very happy to have discovered that.

emil.y, Saturday, 4 October 2014 02:07 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

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