London ILB - FAP?

I am doing a phone interview at 6 - but should be there by 7.15 or so?

You will know me easily. I am a large woman with glasses and long red hair, usually accompanied by a tall bloke with glasses.

the Fox's nose is very distinctive.

Oh, it's just me? .. I thought as much.

Hey, did any drunks guys come over to your table, like, "Oy! Wot you prats doin' readin' in a bar?? You're all lucky you got so many pints in front of you or I'd kick everyone one of you asses!"

And someone always woke her at the right stop.

The FAP was grand.

The Irish folk at the FAP were much keener on coemdy Irishness than the other Irish ilxors.

We discussed Donnybrook.

they are TRAITORS!

Books were.

Have had lovely holidays. Now, back to the books.

ILB FAP: 2009 edition. I'd be fine for a drink any day next week Monday-Thursday.

As for pubs: maybe go for one along Borough High Street?

Monday or Thursday would work for me, and Borough High St is A1 for me too.

Thursday's best for me - working a 12 hour shift the other days. Borough High St always a good place to go for a drink.

hey julio, im gonna be down in london next week so pl post details here - hope to come along

i don't live around london. tho i am heading up there for the weekend for the meltdown concerts and maaaay still be around monday/tuesdayish. can't say for sure, though.

hey Ward! This is good timing - hope to see you too. We'll keep details here.

thomp - Oops I knew about meltdown but didn't know if you were going to be around later that week.

Unless Gamaliel can make it Monday (doesn't look like it) I'd say next thur? Looking at the options how about this one just off the main street - Old King's head - but if you all have another option in mind then do tell.

http://www.fancyapint.com/pubs/pub473.html

I'll revive thisILE thread now for casual ILB-ers (or otherwise) who might want to come along.

Unless Gamaliel can make it Monday (doesn't look like it)

I really can't unfortunately. Awkward customer I know - the toad work. I will have an ILB FAP by myself on Thursday if it's not possible for others though, to make sure I pay my alcohol/reading duties.

That's not awkward at all! See you and everyone who can come next Thursday.

Should be at the Old King's from six-ish, I shall be reading and drinking if I don't see anyone.

I'll say which book on the day :-)

Might bother to do a 'Balkanized' ILX London FAP thread over at ILE on the day of the meet.

And thomp - if you're in London later this year etc let us know and we can arrange a FAP (although I might see you on Sunday, I guess?).

Will def be along on Thursday, and will similarly post book-holding details (tho' Gamaliel and I can identify one another - we go back)

I might be back from Brighton in time for this FAP. Then again, come to think of it, I guess I don't know anyone who's going to it.

Pinefox we have been in the same FAP several times. I think you also have talked to Ward Fowler.

bit odd how the board has an entirely different clientele to last time. feels a bit like housesitting.

but, yeah, see you sunday maybe. i'll be hanging around the bar reading the bantam edition of dhalgren, i should think.

New generation, innit?

I shall look for the Dhalgren (bantam ed.)

did anything happen with this FAP?

it's nice to know that people think they've been at a FAP with me, but I doubt that I could walk into a bar and say 'hey, aren't you xyzzz__?' I don't think I can even pronounce it.

It's on Thursday. xyzzz is usually my last utterance of any evening in a pub.

ILB fappers who are also HIDDEN LANDSCAPE pledgers who do not yet have their book (= whose addresses i do not yet have) can you please email me to receive same!

( = woof and daniel_rf i believe )

or we can FAP and i can bring them along and save on the postage but the send out is next week

I was going to propose FAP also.

We can ferociously debate Patricia Lockwood and William Empson in person rather than online.

i think we should invite john lanchester put him in the corner and don’t let him go until he’s explained himself. flick peanuts at him etc.

I can mail my address, but a quick FAP at some point would be good

i think we should require him to describe and explain us (also peanuts)

xp excellent :)

Idea: next Thursday 14th for FAP?

yes, that would be the only day i can do until after easter.

i will be attending the bob stanley / chris o'leary Q&A that evening sadly

That is a pity but I am inclined to say we go for next Thu as a chance to test the new Royal Oak as ILB has not done before?

That is a pity but I am inclined to say we go for next Thu as a chance to test the new Royal Oak as ILB has not done before?

woof and daniel: my email is marksink3r at googlemail dot com

I can't come along :-(

dipping into this thread to note that while i hope you have a good time the phrase

Thai inspired spicy quinoa burger with chips

makes me v much glad to not be in england

Turns out I'm busy on Thursday also - there's a small chance I might be able to drop in late doors, which I will if I can.

woof and daniel: i need yr addresses by end today or it will have to be by hand when we next meet :)

(which is not a problem for me but everyone else will get theirs first)

Sent you a mail

got it!

i think this will probably a bad idea for me this thursday. i’m under the weather and absolutely wiped at the moment. so maybe we can wait until we’re the full quire?

Agreed, no FAP this Thursday.

The terrible weather we've been having reminds me we should perhaps do a summer FAP?

I can do next three weeks 20th, 27th, 4th. Not the 11th then all good.

I could do the 20th, can't do the 27th, would prefer the 4th and anything after the 11th is basically science fiction as far as I'm concerned.

that's good bcz the 11th is when i download all yr brains onto a hard drive anyway

You're gonna need a smaller hard drive.

Everybody else ok with the 4th?

it's my mum's 84th birthday so it's good not bad

Not a substitute for anyone else's FAP but a Royal Oak note: I am going for a birthday pint there this Friday 21st June. Please join us.

Still on for Thursday?

I'm in!

I am also.

Oh yeah could you bring your copy of "The Unseen"?

I could and will.

i am also in

this time i will arrive with enthusiastic editor's tales of a very different underground: less hawkwind, more soundsystem-rave-dubstep -- the 'nuum!! hola! (i hate that half-word so much lol)

with important crossover figure youth of killing joke allowing us to posit that dave brock invented hip house

I doubt I'll make this, my (older) sister's down in London because she's going to see Rammstein in Milton Keynes (no, seriously) so I'll probably have to keep her entertained.

I would like to attend this FAP but will definitely not make it till 8pm, perhaps later.

This is good see you then.

Tom D - bring your sister along I am sure we can all entertain.

ILB cosplaying RAMMSTEIN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH-ycguHLBU

Might be able to come to this after all, my sister's had to delay her trip for a couple of days because she's suffering from severe migraines at the moment - which hopefully should have cleared up by the weekend because I, for one, wouldn't fancy going to a Rammstein gig with a migraine.

Aiming for six or earlier

Amid almost total disagreement about the LRB last night, we did not mention Andrew O'Hagan who is back in the current issue.

Does anyone agree that he is a bad, very affected writer?

Was it him who did that awful Grenfell piece?

My favourite moment of a very pleasant evening was when we realised that "The Last Samurai" was DEFINITELY named as a pun on "The Last of the Summer Wine".

gyac: yes it was.

I was just reading his article on Lillian Ross, full of pretentious gossip about whom he knew (half of the names are nobodies and / or he doesn't properly explain them).

Despise O'Hagan, he has nothing to offer.

So this was very enjoyable (and thank you Tim for lending me yer book) apart from the pie at Royal Oak. No game anymore and standards have sorta slipped now :-(

Hope to see everyone again in autumn - enjoy the summer!

xyzzzz and I finally agree on something: changes in Royal Oak cuisine.

I have at last read the whole of this issue - even the two terrible poems.

I guess I didn't enjoy it that much after all.

perhaps for somewhat perverse reasons, i quite enjoyed the lillian ross piece -- it's sent me back to brendan gill's "here at the new yorker". i will write reasons and perversity and gill and maybe ohagan up on the LRB thread when i am no longer ill, also ditto wordsworth's fun

(i am no longer ill today in the sense of being i think virus-free at last but i am still very tired and last night was the first thing close to a normal night's sleep since tuesday)

(i ahev not read the poems and think it quite unlikely i ever will, i feel bad about this habit but it is now decades embedded and i'm guessing unshakeable)

Mark yes it is fair to say that though O'Hagan is bad, the review is not unreadable and has a kind of fun element.

I suppose part of the irritation though is the patent obviousness with which O'H attached himself to a certain world that he admired, and then the way that he (often) writes about it - a kind of (non-comic) pastiche of the original; trying to be Didion, or whoever.

If you think of say a Paul Morley encountering a scene, he wouldn't write in a lame pastiche of its manner but would encounter it with his own style.

Unless it was for a book on rock press history in which case he wouldn't write it?

The poems really are bad.

yes i don't disagree with that -- abt the attachment i mean. i haven't written this up yet bcz i've been apply for a job by telling the publication start-up i'm applying to that their underlying philosophy is probably bad (i have no idea what it is) and so they should feel bad

semi-unrelatedly i just sent the LRB a snarky email re LR and AO'H pointing out that what in fact transformed the unpleasant qualities he admires in her into tremendous journalism was the involvement in her work (or threat of involvement hovering behind it) of the new yorker's fact-checking department, at-that-time world-leading

(but expressed a lot more directly, in case lanchester is lurking)

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