London ILB - FAP?

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Me and bloke are going to be in London at the weekend. I'm mostly hanging out with my cooler younger brother, but would love to meet up for a pint either tomorrow night or Friday night. Anyone up for it?

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Tomorrow night might be do-able. Do you know central London at all, 'monkey. I would suggest The Champion:;m=3;l=1191;c=1676;b=9045;ts=20040505172906

I am doing a phone interview at 6 - but should be there by 7.15 or so?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm that link doesn't look right. It's on Wells St, north of Oxford St, anyway.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Gotcha. 7.15 sounds excellent. We will see you there.

You will know me easily. I am a large woman with glasses and long red hair, usually accompanied by a tall bloke with glasses.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess a lot of people have left work already and this thread will see more action tomorrow. I will certainly be there, though. Mikey? PF? etc? Maybe we should put a link on ILE, also.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Marvellous. I greatly look forward to waving my hands in front of my face and saying 'Jesus, people still smoke indoors here? It's like the Dark Ages or something'.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I shall try. I really ought to be painting the doorframe in the bathroom. Rock 'n' roll. I shall have to talk to my woman and see if I can get a leave of absense.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 6 May 2004 07:17 (seventeen years ago) link

accent monkey, there should be a few people coming now (myself included). Will be there 7ish. If you see a bloke with glasses in a blue shirt walking around peering expectantly at people, that'll be Mikey G.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Brilliant. Have drunk half a bottle of wine already in nice cafe on Titchfield St. Will see you later.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

In that case, I'll be the blurry good looking guy in the blue shirt.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

'Half a bottle of wine'

the finefox, Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry I couldn't come - not well at the moment.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

L-R: Mikey G, Accentmonkey, Starry Sarah, Jerry the Nipper, Mark S, The Pinefox.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 7 May 2004 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Well look at that. You really do love books!

Archel (Archel), Friday, 7 May 2004 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

We didn't say a word to each other. All night.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 7 May 2004 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link

L-R: Mikey G, Accentmonkey, Starry Sarah, Jerry the Nipper, Mark S, The Pinefox.

the Fox's nose is very distinctive.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 7 May 2004 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

It was nice to meet Sarah's disembodied head.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 7 May 2004 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay!!!! What a great picture. Hope you guys had fun. And look at that, Mr.Sinker showed up for the festivities. The Pinefox is a wiley creature. Where's the rest of him?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 May 2004 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

L-R: ?, ?, Ian Sansom's "Ring Road", ?, Jonathan Coe's "The Rotters' Club".

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 7 May 2004 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Dammit! If there are any ILB ppl in VT, let me know and we can meet up, too.

Oh, it's just me? .. I thought as much.

Hey, did any drunks guys come over to your table, like, "Oy! Wot you prats doin' readin' in a bar?? You're all lucky you got so many pints in front of you or I'd kick everyone one of you asses!"

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I fell asleep on the bus on the way home and missed my stop.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I knew a girl from London who knew she'd fall asleep on the tube whenever she rode home from clubs/parties so she would hold a little card that said "Please wake me up at [whatever stop]."

And someone always woke her at the right stop.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link peeing on her.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 7 May 2004 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I hadn't imagined The Pinefox as a Jonathan Coe fan.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 7 May 2004 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Not my copy, Martin. But I have read that book and I still think WACU! a really major achievement, as I must have said many a time.

The FAP was grand.

The Irish folk at the FAP were much keener on coemdy Irishness than the other Irish ilxors.

We discussed Donnybrook.

the bellefox, Saturday, 8 May 2004 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree on WACU - loaned a copy to a friend years ago, and have never had it back. I think I have indeed heard you say that before.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The Irish folk at the FAP were much keener on coemdy Irishness than the other Irish ilxors.

they are TRAITORS!

DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah no, not traitors - been in London too long. Seduced....

David Nolan (David N.), Saturday, 8 May 2004 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

This picture proves why mothers the world over warn their children - do not accept online invitations to "meet"! Pints will be left languishing as everyone reads a different book! It's criminal, and those to blame should be brought to justice.

aimurchie, Saturday, 8 May 2004 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Pints were not left languishing, I can assure you.

Books were.

the pintfox, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I still haven't made it home yet.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Me and Bloke just got home from ten days of being Up and In in Paris and London. It was lovely to see all the ILBeanies in the pub. It was great to see you all.

Have had lovely holidays. Now, back to the books.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Sunday, 16 May 2004 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

That was Pelham: Or Adventures of a Gentleman for me, and I believe that was also my copy of the Rotters Club being THUMBED by the PF.

Sarah (starry), Thursday, 20 May 2004 08:20 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

ILB FAP: 2009 edition. I'd be fine for a drink any day next week Monday-Thursday.

As for pubs: maybe go for one along Borough High Street?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Monday or Thursday would work for me, and Borough High St is A1 for me too.

woofwoofwoof, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

Thursday's best for me - working a 12 hour shift the other days. Borough High St always a good place to go for a drink.

GamalielRatsey, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 11:54 (twelve years ago) link

hey julio, im gonna be down in london next week so pl post details here - hope to come along

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:05 (twelve years ago) link

i don't live around london. tho i am heading up there for the weekend for the meltdown concerts and maaaay still be around monday/tuesdayish. can't say for sure, though.

thomp, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

hey Ward! This is good timing - hope to see you too. We'll keep details here.

thomp - Oops I knew about meltdown but didn't know if you were going to be around later that week.

Unless Gamaliel can make it Monday (doesn't look like it) I'd say next thur? Looking at the options how about this one just off the main street - Old King's head - but if you all have another option in mind then do tell.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

I'll revive thisILE thread now for casual ILB-ers (or otherwise) who might want to come along.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

Unless Gamaliel can make it Monday (doesn't look like it)

I really can't unfortunately. Awkward customer I know - the toad work. I will have an ILB FAP by myself on Thursday if it's not possible for others though, to make sure I pay my alcohol/reading duties.

GamalielRatsey, Thursday, 18 June 2009 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

That's not awkward at all! See you and everyone who can come next Thursday.

Should be at the Old King's from six-ish, I shall be reading and drinking if I don't see anyone.

I'll say which book on the day :-)

Might bother to do a 'Balkanized' ILX London FAP thread over at ILE on the day of the meet.

And thomp - if you're in London later this year etc let us know and we can arrange a FAP (although I might see you on Sunday, I guess?).

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 June 2009 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

Will def be along on Thursday, and will similarly post book-holding details (tho' Gamaliel and I can identify one another - we go back)

woofwoofwoof, Thursday, 18 June 2009 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

I might be back from Brighton in time for this FAP. Then again, come to think of it, I guess I don't know anyone who's going to it.

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 June 2009 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

Pinefox we have been in the same FAP several times. I think you also have talked to Ward Fowler.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 June 2009 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

bit odd how the board has an entirely different clientele to last time. feels a bit like housesitting.

but, yeah, see you sunday maybe. i'll be hanging around the bar reading the bantam edition of dhalgren, i should think.

thomp, Friday, 19 June 2009 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

New generation, innit?

I shall look for the Dhalgren (bantam ed.)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 June 2009 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

did anything happen with this FAP?

it's nice to know that people think they've been at a FAP with me, but I doubt that I could walk into a bar and say 'hey, aren't you xyzzz__?' I don't think I can even pronounce it.

the pinefox, Monday, 22 June 2009 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

It's on Thursday. xyzzz is usually my last utterance of any evening in a pub.

GamalielRatsey, Monday, 22 June 2009 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

I click on the link and I recognize this kind of jar.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 11:31 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

Oh hey, so I wrote a quiz, some of which was based on our discussion when I came to London that one time. Can't decide whether to post a link or not.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 May 2021 19:53 (eight months ago) link

post the link!

Fizzles, Friday, 7 May 2021 21:18 (eight months ago) link

do i remember the FAP. was it in the royal oak? what was the conversation? late renaissance/early enlightenment/thomas harriot/school of night stuff?

Fizzles, Friday, 7 May 2021 21:41 (eight months ago) link

and thanks for posting!

Fizzles, Friday, 7 May 2021 21:42 (eight months ago) link

Yes. Royal Oak. I just remember you talking about the “standing on the shoulders of giants” remark was rumored to be a dig at somebody’s stature, and Tom D talking about Newton sticking a needle in his eye socket.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 May 2021 21:45 (eight months ago) link

ah right, yes. god, would be good to be back in the royal oak right now talking shit.

for the sake of epistemic tidiness, i should explicitly point out to others itt that wikipedia, in an entry on the trope, has that rumour as unlikely, as the recipient and newton were on good terms at the time, and the phrase itself having been in relatively common intellectual use since classical times.

Fizzles, Saturday, 8 May 2021 05:17 (eight months ago) link

I remember the fap but nothing that was discussed. Good quiz but I only got five :(

I was born anxious, here's how to do it. (ledge), Saturday, 8 May 2021 07:45 (eight months ago) link

Five is pretty good!

I remember you and I discussing our mutual dislike of– wait for it– Stoner.

Yes, that “standing on the shoulders” stature thing is apparently a myth, as is the story of Newton destroying all the portraits of him upon becoming president of The Royal Society.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 May 2021 11:46 (eight months ago) link

Dates are my weakness when it comes to general knowledge but I was quite surprised that galileo and newton were so close in time, I would have guessed galileo was 100 years earlier.

I was born anxious, here's how to do it. (ledge), Saturday, 8 May 2021 11:49 (eight months ago) link

Well, dates, royalty, sport...

I was born anxious, here's how to do it. (ledge), Saturday, 8 May 2021 11:50 (eight months ago) link

Lol. Actually I could have sworn I learned that fact on that trip as well but in fact the similar thing I learned was that Galileo and Shakespeare were born in the same year.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 May 2021 12:34 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

If cases keep coming down I was thinking of doing this in November. See how it goes.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 September 2021 08:43 (four months ago) link

I've been thinking about FAPs recently, I'm not that optimistic about November though.

How does Spock's brain come into this? (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 September 2021 08:46 (four months ago) link

Would love to join, especially if it’s outside. Sometimes November is still warmish. Also I don’t think I’ve met a single new person for two years who wasn’t another nursery parent.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 16 September 2021 08:51 (four months ago) link

Be good to meet Chuck.

I have to say cases are dropping nicely and all of the adult population will be vaxxed by then (apart from the tiny amounts that don't want it). We will know the effect of schools re-opening shortly.

Let's see it then.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 September 2021 09:28 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

I wanted to see what the feeling was on a November meet up. Thinking 18th or 25th.

Obviously cases are now going up but I said I'd revive.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 October 2021 20:50 (three months ago) link

Bumping this up

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 11:29 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Yeah, ok, good

Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 4 November 2021 20:32 (two months ago) link

I can’t do 18th, can do 25th, would be good to see you all.

Additionally it would be good to see you all on 1st December at the Prince Arthur near Old Street, when we’re launching this new book I’ve been working on. All the details you need here:

Tim, Monday, 8 November 2021 22:25 (two months ago) link

The 18th also not good for me, 25th should be good, but there should still be a FAP either day that suits people because I would like to attend one eventually given I’m reading again and also to meet Tom D.

suggest bainne (gyac), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 12:03 (two months ago) link

is this still on? 25th is def better for me as

mark s, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:40 (two months ago) link

Was going to revive towards end of the week.

Let's go for the 25th at the Royal Oak.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:45 (two months ago) link

Is that the one in Borough?

suggest bainne (gyac), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 16:29 (two months ago) link


xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 16:43 (two months ago) link

Like the blithering idiot I obviously am I have accepted an invitation to another thing on this evening. I will be along for a swift one after work to say hello to anyone who's about but it can only be the one I'm afraid.

Tim, Monday, 22 November 2021 11:38 (two months ago) link

I'll be there!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 22 November 2021 13:51 (two months ago) link


xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 November 2021 19:56 (two months ago) link

See you all later, should be there by 6.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 November 2021 09:26 (one month ago) link

Good stuff. How busy is it likely to be in terms of getting seats or whatever

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 25 November 2021 09:59 (one month ago) link

Pre-pandemic you could usually get a table.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:01 (one month ago) link

Yes - unlikely to be rammed; I imagine I'll be there fairly soon after 5.30 so I feel reasonably confident that we should have a table

Tim, Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:27 (one month ago) link

I’ll see you there around then Tim, I’m in town myself so should be able to head over fairly early

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:42 (one month ago) link

i'm wandering over from the beano show at somerset house so will probably also be early

mark s, Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:55 (one month ago) link

Excellent x2

Tim, Thursday, 25 November 2021 11:03 (one month ago) link

I'm thinking of coming but I probably shouldn't or rather I shouldn't drink but if I can manage to nurse a pint all night I will.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 November 2021 11:20 (one month ago) link

I've stopped drinking during lockdown so if you need someone to look lame next to you I'm there.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 November 2021 11:21 (one month ago) link

It's not so much about looking lame as my inability to go into a pub and not drink more than I should.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 November 2021 11:41 (one month ago) link

Tom D I will be there in solidarity with you! You should come!

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 25 November 2021 11:58 (one month ago) link

Btw picked up a copy of the stories of Heinrich Böll off unwanted books shelf at the station, anyone want it?

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 25 November 2021 12:38 (one month ago) link

FYI Royal Oak closed for an event 🙄 suggest people come to The George on Borough high st instead, everything inside reserved but we have an outside table, wrap up warm I guess

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 25 November 2021 17:17 (one month ago) link


xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 November 2021 17:18 (one month ago) link

lovely to see ppl and sorry to scoot like that but i was just s-o-o-o-o cold!

mark s, Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:04 (one month ago) link

Was lovely to meet people I hadn’t met before and to see the rest of you again, going to go home and hopefully not die of pneumonia now

mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 25 November 2021 20:19 (one month ago) link

I was glad to meet poster Gyac from Co. Offaly. I strongly agreed with her comments about "melts".

the pinefox, Friday, 26 November 2021 10:20 (one month ago) link

It was lovely to meet you too pinefox, thank you for validating my comments about melts ❤️

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 26 November 2021 10:30 (one month ago) link

A good discussion at the FAP concerned membership of the Labour Party - why maintain it? One good reason was given: so that you can still look forward to exercising the right to cancel it.

Today I finally cancelled my Direct Debit. I also sent a message via their website noting this. But given the incompetence of the party, I won't be surprised if they keep trying to take my money.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 13:00 (one month ago) link

Very proud of you

mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 13:30 (one month ago) link

They got to you, pinefox!!!

(Just kidding; I cancelled mine ages ago. Here's to the New Left Party whenever it feels like starting)

imago, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 14:06 (one month ago) link

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