London ILB - FAP?

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Me and bloke are going to be in London at the weekend. I'm mostly hanging out with my cooler younger brother, but would love to meet up for a pint either tomorrow night or Friday night. Anyone up for it?

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Tomorrow night might be do-able. Do you know central London at all, 'monkey. I would suggest The Champion:;m=3;l=1191;c=1676;b=9045;ts=20040505172906

I am doing a phone interview at 6 - but should be there by 7.15 or so?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmm that link doesn't look right. It's on Wells St, north of Oxford St, anyway.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Gotcha. 7.15 sounds excellent. We will see you there.

You will know me easily. I am a large woman with glasses and long red hair, usually accompanied by a tall bloke with glasses.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess a lot of people have left work already and this thread will see more action tomorrow. I will certainly be there, though. Mikey? PF? etc? Maybe we should put a link on ILE, also.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Marvellous. I greatly look forward to waving my hands in front of my face and saying 'Jesus, people still smoke indoors here? It's like the Dark Ages or something'.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I shall try. I really ought to be painting the doorframe in the bathroom. Rock 'n' roll. I shall have to talk to my woman and see if I can get a leave of absense.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 6 May 2004 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

accent monkey, there should be a few people coming now (myself included). Will be there 7ish. If you see a bloke with glasses in a blue shirt walking around peering expectantly at people, that'll be Mikey G.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Brilliant. Have drunk half a bottle of wine already in nice cafe on Titchfield St. Will see you later.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

In that case, I'll be the blurry good looking guy in the blue shirt.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link

'Half a bottle of wine'

the finefox, Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry I couldn't come - not well at the moment.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

L-R: Mikey G, Accentmonkey, Starry Sarah, Jerry the Nipper, Mark S, The Pinefox.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 7 May 2004 09:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Well look at that. You really do love books!

Archel (Archel), Friday, 7 May 2004 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link

We didn't say a word to each other. All night.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 7 May 2004 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link

L-R: Mikey G, Accentmonkey, Starry Sarah, Jerry the Nipper, Mark S, The Pinefox.

the Fox's nose is very distinctive.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 7 May 2004 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

It was nice to meet Sarah's disembodied head.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 7 May 2004 12:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Yay!!!! What a great picture. Hope you guys had fun. And look at that, Mr.Sinker showed up for the festivities. The Pinefox is a wiley creature. Where's the rest of him?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 May 2004 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

L-R: ?, ?, Ian Sansom's "Ring Road", ?, Jonathan Coe's "The Rotters' Club".

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 7 May 2004 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Dammit! If there are any ILB ppl in VT, let me know and we can meet up, too.

Oh, it's just me? .. I thought as much.

Hey, did any drunks guys come over to your table, like, "Oy! Wot you prats doin' readin' in a bar?? You're all lucky you got so many pints in front of you or I'd kick everyone one of you asses!"

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I fell asleep on the bus on the way home and missed my stop.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I knew a girl from London who knew she'd fall asleep on the tube whenever she rode home from clubs/parties so she would hold a little card that said "Please wake me up at [whatever stop]."

And someone always woke her at the right stop.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link peeing on her.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 7 May 2004 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I hadn't imagined The Pinefox as a Jonathan Coe fan.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 7 May 2004 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Not my copy, Martin. But I have read that book and I still think WACU! a really major achievement, as I must have said many a time.

The FAP was grand.

The Irish folk at the FAP were much keener on coemdy Irishness than the other Irish ilxors.

We discussed Donnybrook.

the bellefox, Saturday, 8 May 2004 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I agree on WACU - loaned a copy to a friend years ago, and have never had it back. I think I have indeed heard you say that before.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

The Irish folk at the FAP were much keener on coemdy Irishness than the other Irish ilxors.

they are TRAITORS!

DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah no, not traitors - been in London too long. Seduced....

David Nolan (David N.), Saturday, 8 May 2004 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

This picture proves why mothers the world over warn their children - do not accept online invitations to "meet"! Pints will be left languishing as everyone reads a different book! It's criminal, and those to blame should be brought to justice.

aimurchie, Saturday, 8 May 2004 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Pints were not left languishing, I can assure you.

Books were.

the pintfox, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I still haven't made it home yet.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Me and Bloke just got home from ten days of being Up and In in Paris and London. It was lovely to see all the ILBeanies in the pub. It was great to see you all.

Have had lovely holidays. Now, back to the books.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Sunday, 16 May 2004 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link

That was Pelham: Or Adventures of a Gentleman for me, and I believe that was also my copy of the Rotters Club being THUMBED by the PF.

Sarah (starry), Thursday, 20 May 2004 08:20 (fifteen years ago) link

five years pass...

ILB FAP: 2009 edition. I'd be fine for a drink any day next week Monday-Thursday.

As for pubs: maybe go for one along Borough High Street?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:57 (ten years ago) link

Monday or Thursday would work for me, and Borough High St is A1 for me too.

woofwoofwoof, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 08:55 (ten years ago) link

Thursday's best for me - working a 12 hour shift the other days. Borough High St always a good place to go for a drink.

GamalielRatsey, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 11:54 (ten years ago) link

hey julio, im gonna be down in london next week so pl post details here - hope to come along

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:05 (ten years ago) link

i don't live around london. tho i am heading up there for the weekend for the meltdown concerts and maaaay still be around monday/tuesdayish. can't say for sure, though.

thomp, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 14:39 (ten years ago) link

hey Ward! This is good timing - hope to see you too. We'll keep details here.

thomp - Oops I knew about meltdown but didn't know if you were going to be around later that week.

Unless Gamaliel can make it Monday (doesn't look like it) I'd say next thur? Looking at the options how about this one just off the main street - Old King's head - but if you all have another option in mind then do tell.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 21:08 (ten years ago) link

I'll revive thisILE thread now for casual ILB-ers (or otherwise) who might want to come along.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 21:17 (ten years ago) link

Unless Gamaliel can make it Monday (doesn't look like it)

I really can't unfortunately. Awkward customer I know - the toad work. I will have an ILB FAP by myself on Thursday if it's not possible for others though, to make sure I pay my alcohol/reading duties.

GamalielRatsey, Thursday, 18 June 2009 07:06 (ten years ago) link

That's not awkward at all! See you and everyone who can come next Thursday.

Should be at the Old King's from six-ish, I shall be reading and drinking if I don't see anyone.

I'll say which book on the day :-)

Might bother to do a 'Balkanized' ILX London FAP thread over at ILE on the day of the meet.

And thomp - if you're in London later this year etc let us know and we can arrange a FAP (although I might see you on Sunday, I guess?).

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 June 2009 20:07 (ten years ago) link

Will def be along on Thursday, and will similarly post book-holding details (tho' Gamaliel and I can identify one another - we go back)

woofwoofwoof, Thursday, 18 June 2009 22:20 (ten years ago) link

I might be back from Brighton in time for this FAP. Then again, come to think of it, I guess I don't know anyone who's going to it.

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 June 2009 23:52 (ten years ago) link

Pinefox we have been in the same FAP several times. I think you also have talked to Ward Fowler.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 June 2009 19:07 (ten years ago) link

bit odd how the board has an entirely different clientele to last time. feels a bit like housesitting.

but, yeah, see you sunday maybe. i'll be hanging around the bar reading the bantam edition of dhalgren, i should think.

thomp, Friday, 19 June 2009 22:48 (ten years ago) link

New generation, innit?

I shall look for the Dhalgren (bantam ed.)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 June 2009 09:25 (ten years ago) link

did anything happen with this FAP?

it's nice to know that people think they've been at a FAP with me, but I doubt that I could walk into a bar and say 'hey, aren't you xyzzz__?' I don't think I can even pronounce it.

the pinefox, Monday, 22 June 2009 17:50 (ten years ago) link

It's on Thursday. xyzzz is usually my last utterance of any evening in a pub.

GamalielRatsey, Monday, 22 June 2009 17:52 (ten years ago) link

ILB fappers who are also HIDDEN LANDSCAPE pledgers who do not yet have their book (= whose addresses i do not yet have) can you please email me to receive same!

( = woof and daniel_rf i believe )

mark s, Friday, 8 March 2019 11:30 (seven months ago) link

or we can FAP and i can bring them along and save on the postage but the send out is next week

mark s, Friday, 8 March 2019 11:31 (seven months ago) link

I was going to propose FAP also.

We can ferociously debate Patricia Lockwood and William Empson in person rather than online.

the pinefox, Friday, 8 March 2019 12:13 (seven months ago) link

i think we should invite john lanchester put him in the corner and don’t let him go until he’s explained himself. flick peanuts at him etc.

Fizzles, Friday, 8 March 2019 12:17 (seven months ago) link

I can mail my address, but a quick FAP at some point would be good

woof, Friday, 8 March 2019 12:38 (seven months ago) link

i think we should require him to describe and explain us (also peanuts)

xp excellent :)

mark s, Friday, 8 March 2019 12:44 (seven months ago) link

Idea: next Thursday 14th for FAP?

the pinefox, Friday, 8 March 2019 13:37 (seven months ago) link

yes, that would be the only day i can do until after easter.

Fizzles, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:14 (seven months ago) link

i will be attending the bob stanley / chris o'leary Q&A that evening sadly

mark s, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:22 (seven months ago) link

That is a pity but I am inclined to say we go for next Thu as a chance to test the new Royal Oak as ILB has not done before?

the pinefox, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:55 (seven months ago) link

That is a pity but I am inclined to say we go for next Thu as a chance to test the new Royal Oak as ILB has not done before?

i’m easy. obv be good to see everyone. mark being elsewhere (at a good sounding event: traitor) does remove the original Hidden Landscape prompt for this.

Fizzles, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:58 (seven months ago) link

woof and daniel: my email is marksink3r at googlemail dot com

mark s, Saturday, 9 March 2019 11:44 (seven months ago) link

I can't come along :-(

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 March 2019 12:24 (seven months ago) link

dipping into this thread to note that while i hope you have a good time the phrase

Thai inspired spicy quinoa burger with chips

makes me v much glad to not be in england

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 10 March 2019 14:32 (seven months ago) link

Turns out I'm busy on Thursday also - there's a small chance I might be able to drop in late doors, which I will if I can.

Tim, Monday, 11 March 2019 09:30 (seven months ago) link

woof and daniel: i need yr addresses by end today or it will have to be by hand when we next meet :)

(which is not a problem for me but everyone else will get theirs first)

mark s, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 10:54 (seven months ago) link

Sent you a mail

woof, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 11:25 (seven months ago) link

got it!

mark s, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 11:36 (seven months ago) link

i think this will probably a bad idea for me this thursday. i’m under the weather and absolutely wiped at the moment. so maybe we can wait until we’re the full quire?

Fizzles, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:57 (seven months ago) link

Agreed, no FAP this Thursday.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 08:36 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

The terrible weather we've been having reminds me we should perhaps do a summer FAP?

I can do next three weeks 20th, 27th, 4th. Not the 11th then all good.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:36 (four months ago) link

I could do the 20th, can't do the 27th, would prefer the 4th and anything after the 11th is basically science fiction as far as I'm concerned.

Tim, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:50 (four months ago) link

that's good bcz the 11th is when i download all yr brains onto a hard drive anyway

mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:52 (four months ago) link

You're gonna need a smaller hard drive.

Tim, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:54 (four months ago) link

Everybody else ok with the 4th?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:16 (four months ago) link

it's my mum's 84th birthday so it's good not bad

mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:18 (four months ago) link

Not a substitute for anyone else's FAP but a Royal Oak note: I am going for a birthday pint there this Friday 21st June. Please join us.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 07:18 (three months ago) link

Still on for Thursday?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2019 09:49 (three months ago) link

I'm in!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:05 (three months ago) link

I am also.

Tim, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:05 (three months ago) link

Oh yeah could you bring your copy of "The Unseen"?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:17 (three months ago) link

I could and will.

Tim, Monday, 1 July 2019 11:16 (three months ago) link

i am also in

this time i will arrive with enthusiastic editor's tales of a very different underground: less hawkwind, more soundsystem-rave-dubstep -- the 'nuum!! hola! (i hate that half-word so much lol)

with important crossover figure youth of killing joke allowing us to posit that dave brock invented hip house

mark s, Monday, 1 July 2019 12:02 (three months ago) link

I doubt I'll make this, my (older) sister's down in London because she's going to see Rammstein in Milton Keynes (no, seriously) so I'll probably have to keep her entertained.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2019 12:30 (three months ago) link

I would like to attend this FAP but will definitely not make it till 8pm, perhaps later.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:01 (three months ago) link

This is good see you then.

Tom D - bring your sister along I am sure we can all entertain.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:09 (three months ago) link

ILB cosplaying RAMMSTEIN:

mark s, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:18 (three months ago) link

Might be able to come to this after all, my sister's had to delay her trip for a couple of days because she's suffering from severe migraines at the moment - which hopefully should have cleared up by the weekend because I, for one, wouldn't fancy going to a Rammstein gig with a migraine.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:27 (three months ago) link

Aiming for six or earlier

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 13:15 (three months ago) link

Amid almost total disagreement about the LRB last night, we did not mention Andrew O'Hagan who is back in the current issue.

Does anyone agree that he is a bad, very affected writer?

the pinefox, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:36 (three months ago) link

Was it him who did that awful Grenfell piece?

gyac, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:40 (three months ago) link

My favourite moment of a very pleasant evening was when we realised that "The Last Samurai" was DEFINITELY named as a pun on "The Last of the Summer Wine".

Tim, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:49 (three months ago) link

gyac: yes it was.

I was just reading his article on Lillian Ross, full of pretentious gossip about whom he knew (half of the names are nobodies and / or he doesn't properly explain them).

the pinefox, Friday, 5 July 2019 13:56 (three months ago) link

Despise O'Hagan, he has nothing to offer.

So this was very enjoyable (and thank you Tim for lending me yer book) apart from the pie at Royal Oak. No game anymore and standards have sorta slipped now :-(

Hope to see everyone again in autumn - enjoy the summer!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:52 (three months ago) link

xyzzzz and I finally agree on something: changes in Royal Oak cuisine.

the pinefox, Friday, 5 July 2019 16:07 (three months ago) link

I have at last read the whole of this issue - even the two terrible poems.

I guess I didn't enjoy it that much after all.

the pinefox, Sunday, 7 July 2019 12:03 (three months ago) link

perhaps for somewhat perverse reasons, i quite enjoyed the lillian ross piece -- it's sent me back to brendan gill's "here at the new yorker". i will write reasons and perversity and gill and maybe ohagan up on the LRB thread when i am no longer ill, also ditto wordsworth's fun

(i am no longer ill today in the sense of being i think virus-free at last but i am still very tired and last night was the first thing close to a normal night's sleep since tuesday)

(i ahev not read the poems and think it quite unlikely i ever will, i feel bad about this habit but it is now decades embedded and i'm guessing unshakeable)

mark s, Sunday, 7 July 2019 12:10 (three months ago) link

Mark yes it is fair to say that though O'Hagan is bad, the review is not unreadable and has a kind of fun element.

I suppose part of the irritation though is the patent obviousness with which O'H attached himself to a certain world that he admired, and then the way that he (often) writes about it - a kind of (non-comic) pastiche of the original; trying to be Didion, or whoever.

If you think of say a Paul Morley encountering a scene, he wouldn't write in a lame pastiche of its manner but would encounter it with his own style.

Unless it was for a book on rock press history in which case he wouldn't write it?

The poems really are bad.

the pinefox, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:06 (three months ago) link

yes i don't disagree with that -- abt the attachment i mean. i haven't written this up yet bcz i've been apply for a job by telling the publication start-up i'm applying to that their underlying philosophy is probably bad (i have no idea what it is) and so they should feel bad

semi-unrelatedly i just sent the LRB a snarky email re LR and AO'H pointing out that what in fact transformed the unpleasant qualities he admires in her into tremendous journalism was the involvement in her work (or threat of involvement hovering behind it) of the new yorker's fact-checking department, at-that-time world-leading

(but expressed a lot more directly, in case lanchester is lurking)

mark s, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:22 (three months ago) link

written up here: Book Reviews? LRB vs the failing New York Review of Books vs ... ?

mark s, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:07 (three months ago) link

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