Heavens! Look at the Time: What Are You Reading During This Summer of 2017?

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I've been reading Hugo Ball's diaries, Flight Out of Time, which I had only really known through excerpts in Lipstick Traces and the like; the sections dealing with Zurich Dada and with Emmy Hennings are fascinating, but I wasn't really prepared for how brief they are in relation to Ball's musings on German identity and the harmful consequences of the Protestant Reformation. I also recently read Taylor Mac's anarchic satire Hir: I think it's flatter on the page than it's likely to be in performance, but I can appreciate how it both hollows out and repurposes the tropes of the collapsing nuclear family drama, and how determinedly it resists resolving any of its tensions. I'm also starting Samuel Delany's collection of novellas, Atlantis: Three Tales: its prose is unsurprisingly richly textured so far, but I'm not really far enough into it to comment otherwise.

one way street, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

*(supposedly harmful, obvi)

one way street, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

Chekhov's letters are very entertaining

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

I read a good review of the slate of recent Henry Green re-prints that have recently come out through NYRB publishing which sparked my interest. I recall there being some messages on the Spring thread about him/them. If anyone has a recommendation on which is a good starting point (he was prolific), I'd be happy to hear!

My wife is reading Delaney's Dhalgren (and also picked up The Jewels of Aptor the other day). Although I've never been as into scifi, he seems super fascinating and someone I'd very much like to read.

Also, re: Damon K - he recently started a podcast, Ways of Hearing, which is very related (I'm guessing he adapted passages from the book for it?) and has been very enjoyable!
https://www.radiotopia.fm/podcasts/showcase

Federico Boswarlos, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

re: Henry Green - Party Going is the starting point imo

re: Chehkov - those are lovely and build an interesting picture. Its well worth reading them alongside Janet Malcolm's book on him as they contain thoughtful (as always) commentary. There are strong moral positions - the case for a principled literature (Zola defending Dreyfus, Tolstoy) that provides a kind of guiding light. The letter to his elder brother on what it is to be cultured (after seeing his behaviour) is also terrific and sets the tone. On a lesser note women are there to look good, there are a few times where he remarks that there are no beautiful women to look at and that's kind of it. I think sometimes he wrote more passionately about Tolstoy than to his wife (although that - as Janet Malcolm and the commentary notes show - its perhaps a marriage that should not have been).

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

Oops, meant to write *spate not slate up there. I see Penguin published an omnibus ed with Loving/Living/Party Going, which I'll try and keep an eye out for (thanks for the Party Going rec - looking it up, I came across this ed.).

Still trying to squeeze in a few more shorter books before re-reading Swann's Way and having a go at the rest of A la Recherche. I'm hoping to read Watt by Beckett, Love's Work by Gillian Rose, and perhaps one of these Green ones.

Federico Boswarlos, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

W/ Henry Green you shld start by Concluding

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link

ketchup on list from previous thread:

• very close now to finishing nicola barker's DARKMANS (in my defence it is quite long)
• found the misplaced copy i did after all have of THE IPCRESS FILE (i now have two, and had not misremembered that i owned only, only that i had started reading it) -- will write up a note or two on the four deightons i read when i have a moment -- ditto the barker when i eventually get there
• finished THE SURGEON OF CROWTHORNE and recommend it, squirmy moment and all: tho i felt it was under-edited (several anecdotes seemed to appear in fragmentary form more than once, in a way that didn't strike me as stylistic) and now and then he reached for a word or an idea i wished he'd been persuaded to drop -- but the basic idea is good and the all-round tale fascinating (i shd add that i embarked on it assuming it was fiction and it took me more pages than it probably should have done to realise that it isn't)
• started and finished eric ambler's THE MASK OF DIMITRIOS (which i thought i'd read before but certainly hadn't)

THE SOT-WEED FACTOR (the original poem) is a weird mix of fascinating (for its uncalculating portrait of pre-revolutionary america) and terrible (as poetry) (the rhyme scheme is like being slapped with a fish)

mark s, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

re: Henry Green - Party Going is the starting point imo

Not my favourite.

*reads further down*

W/ Henry Green you shld start by Concluding

This is my favourite

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

I just read a book about the Paris Commune called "Massacre" which depressed me so thoroughly I decided to read Strindberg to lift my spirits but haven't even finished the introduction yet, it's longer than some novels.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

I don't think I have read Concluding (one of 2/3 I haven't) so will give that one a go too.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link

All the Green theefers I know or know of are on this page---wherever you dive in, if you like him at all, you're likely to get hooked: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nothing-Doting-Blindness-Vintage-Classics/dp/0099481480/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_1/257-1520979-5155141?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HJ31ZK7JCJ8BZ2RBK0AS

dow, Thursday, 17 August 2017 00:50 (six years ago) link

"threefers", I meant.

dow, Thursday, 17 August 2017 00:51 (six years ago) link

my Elena Ferrante Summer concluded, just finished the Neapolitan Quartet. two quotes from The Story of The Lost Child

In what disorder we lived, how many fragments were scattered, as if to live were to explode into splinters.

I realized in a flash that memory was already literature...my book...really was bad, and this was because it was written with obsessive care, because I hadn't been able to imitate the disjointed, unaesthetic, illogical, shapeless banality of things.

Inhaled Dawn Powell's Angels on Toast, next up her Turn, Magic Wheel. currently reading John Williams' Stoner and enduring my son's smirking jokes abt the title

busy bee starski (m coleman), Friday, 18 August 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link

adding to my list above

Cosey Fanni Tutti's ART SEX MAGIC: not very far in, but so far GPO is way more of an arsehole than you maybe imagined (or at least than *i* imagined, having met him a handful of times, when he was charm itself -- i always tended to think he was more sinned against than sinning; now i am a LOT less certain)
Michael Ende's JIM BUTTON AND LUKE THE ENGINE DRIVER -- children's classic from the late 50s (translated from german, where i believe ende is p well known?); rereading to see how it stands up… it's a sweetnatured attempt at a kind of multicultural fable, jim is a black orphan (who i think in later stories goes looking for his parents); he and luke travel to china to help rescue the emperor's daughter from dragons; the china in question is um let's say an ahistorical and fantastical orientalist invention (transparent trees made of glass, food a wild absurdist caricature, ditto its folkways). it's kinda racist, in fact, though there's no malice in it whatever (the general tenor is that people are nice everywhere and shd get along, even if they're from very different backgrounds). easily the best scene is a hermit who lives alone in the desert bcz -- unlike the rest of us, who look smaller the further away they're viewed from, he looks bigger, so is always encountered as a vast giant

mark s, Friday, 18 August 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link

Cosey Fanni Tutti's ART SEX MAGIC: not very far in, but so far GPO is way more of an arsehole than you maybe imagined (or at least than *i* imagined, having met him a handful of times, when he was charm itself -- i always tended to think he was more sinned against than sinning; now i am a LOT less certain)

I talked about it here, Cosey Fanni Tutti: Classic or Dud?

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Friday, 18 August 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link

(translated from german, where i believe ende is p well known?)

Yeah, remember enjoying these stories as a very small child, despite my parent's aversion to them, which was indeed based on their racial politics (though I'd imagine as much about the book covers, where Jim Knopf had some distinctly gollywog-like features).

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 18 August 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link

jim is handled perfectly acceptably in the illustrations in the edition i have, but the various chinese characters tend to the cartoonish and hence often the problematic

the illustrator, maurice s. dodd, is better known for his strip the perishers

mark s, Friday, 18 August 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link

haha oh well

mark s, Friday, 18 August 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

Didn't know Dodd had done illustration work outside of The Perishers. He was chiefly the writer on The Perishers, and only took over the artwork too when the (much, much better) artist Dennis Collins retired.

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Friday, 18 August 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

Yeah, in the classic German edition I had the art was....not great. https://pictures.abebooks.com/isbn/9783551313065-us-300.jpg

There's been modernized editions with new art though. Researching this I also found out the original book uses the German n word, once, though apparently not with malicious intent (frankly Germany was pretty late in getting rid of it in the public sphere, there was still a popular kind of dessert with the name around when I was a kid).

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 18 August 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

re dodd: there doesn't seem to be much outside the perishers! the only other books i can find he worked on are jim phelan's waggon-wheels and tony elphick's billykin's first voyage

(neither of which i'd heard of till i started googling)

mark s, Friday, 18 August 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

> there was still a popular kind of dessert

what did this entail?

(that said, we had (have?) golliwogs on our jam for ever)

koogs, Friday, 18 August 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link

Kinda similar to tea cakes, but people called them "n word kisses". :/

These days I think they just go by the name of the company that makes them, which gloriously enough is called Dickmann's. You can spend a good time on YouTube giggling at the commercials, I know I did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLmr_qlVTDM

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 18 August 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

U.R. Anantha Murthy - Samskara

Really good but finding everything slow-going. You can see why the BJP celebrated his deat. He has no respect with the theocracy they are trying to implement. Although it seems to be working as a book I think it has the makings of a terrific film too (and a film of this was made in the 70s, which I'll try and source)

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

I finished Seven Viking Romances. There was some small overlap with the more fantastical Arthurian romances, in that a dwarf might appear from time to time or the occasional magic castle, but there is no denying that a Viking's idea of a romantic tale is mainly built around swords hacking at human limbs, ships, plundering, and heavy drinking.

I'm now 2/3rds of the way through Concluding by Henry Green. It has rather a unique flavor to it that is hard to describe briefly. At times it puts me in mind of Cold Comfort Farm, but where CCF is broad and hammers away cheerfully at its targets, Green confines himself to the merest glances and gestures at his characters' absurdity. Everything and everyone is very English, and their mild absurdity contains a lurking tragic note that you can't wholly ignore. I can't offhand think of another book like it.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 August 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

You're in for a treat if you've never read Green. Most of his major novels have been republished in sparkling NYROB editions.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 August 2017 00:40 (six years ago) link

I recently read a biography of Evelyn Waugh, who was a friend of Green, and I learned that like Waugh, he was a raging Tory. It's funny how quite a few of the modernist-leaning writers of the age were on the Right.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 24 August 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link

Still reading the tome-like "Transformation of the World" by Osterhammel. Thought-provoking and informative, though it does contain a lot of sentences like: "Here two things must be distinguished." (actual sentence)

o. nate, Thursday, 24 August 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

The only other Green I've read was his very first novel, Blindness about a year ago. A bit odd that my next one is his very last novel, but that is how it fell out. There are ample clues to his Tory leanings sprinkled through Concluding, where mentions of The State are invariably biting or bitter.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 August 2017 01:42 (six years ago) link

I recently read a biography of Evelyn Waugh, who was a friend of Green, and I learned that like Waugh, he was a raging Tory. It's funny how quite a few of the modernist-leaning writers of the age were on the Right.

― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, August 23, 2017

Amis too. All my favorite terse British novelists (I've no idea about Scottish-born Spark).

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 August 2017 01:42 (six years ago) link

I recently read a biography of Evelyn Waugh, who was a friend of Green, and I learned that like Waugh, he was a raging Tory. It's funny how quite a few of the modernist-leaning writers of the age were on the Right.

No great surprise that Green was a Tory if you read his post war books, "Concluding", "Nothing", "Doting". There's a generation gap thing going on where the younger people (including women!) are often working for state institutions while middle aged men are slogging away in the City to pay socialist state taxes, school fees etc.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 August 2017 08:10 (six years ago) link

Also, while I'm here, "Caught" is amazing too, especially the bit where the leading character goes to the toy shop with his son.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 August 2017 08:21 (six years ago) link

Green was an Etonian contemporary of Anthony Powell's, another 'raging Tory' (not so sure you cld describe the author of a twelve volume sequence as 'terse', tho.) But Unlike Powell, Green has great imaginative sympathy for his working class characters (I'm guessing partly because, as a factory owner, he actually had frequent contact with non-posh ppl, and paid closer attention to the way those outside of his own class spoke and behaved.)

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 24 August 2017 08:47 (six years ago) link

Before the holidays (yeech, nearly gone!) we were having various discussions at school about 'right-leaning' literature, and what we could possibly teach to counter claims of stuff like An Inspector Calls being lefty propaganda. I'd thought of Waugh (not that you'd particularly want to teach him?) but not considered that clutch of inter and post-war writers as having a commonality about them. I wondered about some post-war Sci-Fi writers, but it feels like we missed something obvious. Any ideas?

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 24 August 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link

I finished Concluding. It was first rate, but despite the title, curiously inconclusive. I am now reading A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies by de la Casas.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 25 August 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link

Got about 100 pages to go to finish the first volume of Miklós Bánffy's Transylvania Trilogy(They Were Counted in the English edition; Writing In Flames according to the German edition I'm reading); it's a great big fin de siécle epic, with lots of descriptions of long banquets, balls, gambling and a looming dread as WWI approaches. Really lovely, melancholy stuff. Tiyl: Proust, Thomas Mann, Stefan Zweig, Tomasi di Lampedusa.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 27 August 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

^^^ great ,lovely book

At the other end of the scale, am thoroughly loving new Tove Jansson translation: Letters from Klara

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 28 August 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

In the midst of Tana French, "Faithful Place" (Dublin Murder Squad #3), I love these so much

.oO (silby), Monday, 28 August 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

Oooh new Jansson!

James, did you read the entire trilogy?

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 28 August 2017 11:39 (six years ago) link

p sure I've seen twitter backlash against that book from someone or other

.oO (silby), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

p sure I've read people saying it was too short and too rushed on this board somewhere

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

definitely remember a review saying she was far too uncritical about the right's take on gamergate, sjws, etc.

angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Monday, 28 August 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

Gunter Grasse The Tin Drum
story of little Oskar and his toy Tin drum. Oskar refused to grow in size above the age of 3 and likes to shatter glass with ihis voice.
He relates teh story many years later from an insane asylum.
Been meaning to read thsi for years, started iit in '85 then lost the copy of it I had tehn. Found it in a charity shop a couple of months back and am now finally getting to read it.
d/lded the film too

Jeanette Leech Fearless.
Story of post-rock that I find interesting but keep finding doesn't agree with background i knew about at the time or leaves great big bits out.
I don't think she's ever going to be on eof my favourite writers but I think I'll keep going with this.
Might also mean I pick up a few recordings that I've had on the back burner for years.

Stevolende, Monday, 28 August 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

definitely remember a review saying she was far too uncritical about the right's take on gamergate, sjws, etc.

― angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Monday, 28 August 2017 18:06 (yesterday) Permalink

One of the more least surprising criticisms tbf

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

finally finished nicola barker's darkmans -- and i think my first reaction is, "i have to read this again before i can write properly about it"

i found it very engaging: a brief passage in the unremarkable lives of fairly weird people (or vice versa) except for one quasi-supernatural event, which maybe isn't supernatural (tho if it isn't i don't really know what it is). barker's characters are all very vivid, and i liked the slightly mazy sense of "nothing actually ever happens here" interspersed w/a fvckton of driving around that is actual life in the country (it's set a little distance inland from winchelsea)

i've read a couple of hers before -- wide open and one of the very early collections -- but besides remembering i quite liked them (and a cut-in-half wasp in the opening scenes of wide open) i don;t really remember anything about them“ so i think i might go on a binge before i reread this (quite long) book

mark s, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:10 (six years ago) link

I finished the de Las Casas. It was unavoidably repetitive, given the subject matter, but it was brutal in its descriptions and he could not find terms strong enough to denounce the atrocities, although he used the strongest ones he knew, consigning the conquistadores and the provincial governors to eternal hellfire dozens of times over. No genocide of the twentieth century surpasses the genocide he describes, even though he inflates his numbers by about an order of magnitude.

After such a heavy dose of Vikings and conquistadores, I think I'll try for something a bit more sedate for my next book.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

Anybody read this book? Looks promising, and "the spoof of Eliot in his most vatic mode" is a hoot:
http://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2017/07/at-club-of-bad-books-dylan-thomas-john.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Wormwoodiana+%28Wormwoodiana%29

dow, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link


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