Miguel Cabrera Needs His Own Thread

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Because the other guy who needed his own thread got one, and this guy’s been doing it for a long time now.

clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2013 15:13 (eight years ago) link

His kung fu is very strong.

WilliamC, Sunday, 30 June 2013 15:17 (eight years ago) link

Here's where Cabrera stands in relation to what are basically the best postwar hitters at basically the same stage in their careers. I tried to pick the guys who had all three slash-stats covered, so no Schmidt, Henderson, Brett, etc. (the '70s/80s are badly underrepresented). I wasn't ambitious enough to start looking into partial seasons and make the PA exactly the same, so I included the last season where each guy was closest to Cabrera's 6829 PA; going a little over, like Robinson and A-Rod, was okay.

               PA        HR       BA        SLG       OBP

Cabrera 6839 345 .321 .567 .398
DiMaggio 6585 317 .331 .589 .401
Musial 6754 227 .346 .579 .431
Mantle 6697 374 .308 .579 .425
Mays 6666 368 .315 .588 .390
Aaron 6582 342 .320 .572 .375
Robinson 7088 373 .304 .562 .391
Bonds 6713 334 .288 .548 .404
Griffey 6688 398 .299 .569 .380
Thomas 6799 344 .321 .579 .440
Ramirez 6575 390 .316 .599 .411
Rodriguez 7100 429 .307 .577 .385
Pujols 6782 408 .331 .624 .426

The window here encompasses some guys who were coming off their most celebrated seasons--Robinson's 1966, Mantle's '61 ('56/57 better, I know)—and decline set in for most of them, though not all. A-Rod's 2007 is not included, and Bonds' window closes with 199. He had a couple of good seasons after that.

Most HR: A-Rod (429)
Highest BA: Musial (.346)
Highest SLG: Pujols (.624)
Highest OBA: Thomas (.440)

clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2013 15:20 (eight years ago) link

Should read: "Bonds' window closes with 1996." On a brighter note, I actually formatted a table correctly.

clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2013 15:22 (eight years ago) link

you do realize those numbers aren't park- or era-adjusted, clem? ;)

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 June 2013 15:30 (eight years ago) link

Oh, I know--just wanted to throw something together quickly. (Baseball Reference has that tool where you can easily isolate any part of a player's career.) I was going to say that, unadjusted, the best comps would seem to be DiMaggio, Aaron, and Robinson. The latter two, of course, put up half their numbers in the pitching-dominated '60s.

clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2013 15:34 (eight years ago) link

Not that anybody asked, but: I tend to group Williams in my mind with Ruth, Foxx, Gehrig, and Hornsby, so I left him out. Chronologically, he should be included. Williams, through 1954:

PA -- 7084
HR -- 366
BA -- .348
SLG -- .638
OBP -- .486

He takes all three slash categories.

clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2013 16:21 (eight years ago) link

yeah he was really mfing good

k3vin k., Sunday, 30 June 2013 16:27 (eight years ago) link

Realized I can let someone else do all the adjusting...Same players, same point in their careers, ranked by oWAR:

1. Williams: 93.2
2. Mantle: 83.0
3. Musial: 78.0
4. Rodriguez: 77.0
5. Mays: 75.6
6. Pujols: 69.6
7. Robinson: 68.0
8. Aaron: 67.3
9. DiMaggio: 65.7
10. Thomas: 65.1
11. Bonds: 64.4
12. Griffey: 63.6
13. Cabrera: 59.2
14. Ramirez: 56.1

I just wanted to compare a bunch of guys as pure hitters, so now, with baserunning and positional adjustment included, we're a little beyond what I intended (Rickey Henderson had accumulated 67.4 oWAR through his first 7198 PA). That aside, Williams is off on his own, there's a second tier of Mantle, Musial, A-Rod, and Mays, and then a third tier in the 60s. By the end of the year, Cabrera should reach the very bottom of the third tier.

clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2013 16:56 (eight years ago) link

I don't understand including Dimaggio but excluding Williams, but otherwise what I'm getting from this is that Cabrera is a really good hitter.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 1 July 2013 12:19 (eight years ago) link

I tried to explain the omission of Williams above, then realized he belonged anyway. After careful study, I've come to the same conclusion: he's a really good hitter.

Cabrera during his 15-game hitting streak: 7 homers, 13 RBI, .458/.522/.898.

clemenza, Monday, 1 July 2013 14:00 (eight years ago) link

i'm gonna see if i can do something similar, only using wRC+ and/or OPS+ instead

Z S, Monday, 1 July 2013 14:16 (eight years ago) link

Two guys who'd rank no matter how you do it would be Henderson and Schmidt. Then there are another dozen I left out who might fall in there somewhere: Brett, Edgar Martinez, Piazza, Walker, etc. I don't know about you, ZS, but when I undertake things like this, I either do it quickly and intuitively and live with omissions, or I end up obsessing and take forever.

clemenza, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:02 (eight years ago) link

I don't know about you, ZS, but when I undertake things like this, I either do it quickly and intuitively and live with omissions, or I end up obsessing and take forever.

my most common outcome seems to be to start, get stuck on a basic problem, and then quit!

it's easy enough to come up with a list of top wRC+ and set the minimum PAs to 6000, but i'm not sure how to easily generate that list for players at a certain point in their career (say, ~6800 PAs like Cabrera's currently at). it would be pretty easy to manually look it up, player by player, but then you run into the question of which players to include. you can look at the total career numbers to get an idea, of course. but i'm sure there are plenty of players who had outstanding wRC+ stats at 6800 PAs, and then ended their career on 4000 mediocre PAs which dragged their overall career wRC+ down.

Z S, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:36 (eight years ago) link

I might be wrong, but my guess is that career leaders would be a fairly reliable guide as to who had the best numbers--whatever sabermetric tool you use--after 7000 PA. I don't think there are many guys at this level who took a drastic tumble during the final third of their careers. Albert Belle retired just as his decline phase was starting, so he doesn't count; with someone like Juan Gonzalez, his numbers weren't good enough during his prime to qualify anyway once adjusted. I'm having a hard time thinking of anybody who ranked with Mays and DiMaggio and the rest through 7000 PA, but then began a prolonged slide. Actually, Griffey's one. His OPS+ through 1999 is 149, which would be tied for 36th on the career list, but by the time he finishes he's at 136 and 99th place. Frank Thomas, on the other hand, had such a head start that even after finishing with eight up-and-down seasons, he still ends up tied with Mays and Dick Allen for 19th on the Career OPS+ list.

clemenza, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:42 (eight years ago) link

I think for Thomas it helped that his only "bad" seasons were his injury plagued ones. He never had a full season that wasn't at least good offensively.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 1 July 2013 17:25 (eight years ago) link

Just read that he has 90 RBIs and had to check to make sure it wasn't a typo.

Z S, Monday, 8 July 2013 18:32 (eight years ago) link

Here are the most ever before the break (Hamilton ended up with 95 that year), unless someone else made the list the past four seasons:


Also from the Department of Antiquated Stats, he's got a good chance to become the ninth guy to win three batting titles in a row: Gwynn, Boggs, Carew, Musial, Hornsby, Cobb, Wagner, Lajoie. (Trusting someone else's research there.) He'd be the first to hit 30+ HR each year, though.

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:47 (eight years ago) link

Yes, I know: the great Preston Wilson...

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:51 (eight years ago) link

Research Notes
7th straight season with 30+ HR for Miguel Cabrera
Miguel Cabrera reached 30 HR in the Tigers' 91st game of the season. The only Tigers player to get there faster was Hank Greenberg, who hit his 30th in their 87th game of 1938.
With his 30th HR of the season today, Miguel Cabrera is the first player in MLB history with 30 home runs AND 90 RBI before the All-Star break.

Andy K, Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:02 (eight years ago) link

His red zone kind of looks like a brony bent over a table with its tail on the air, begging for forgiveness. Or you know, doing whatever it it is that bronies do.

Z S, Friday, 12 July 2013 14:31 (eight years ago) link

Hope he sits out the all-star game for his back's sake.

Andy K, Saturday, 13 July 2013 01:10 (eight years ago) link

Hope he sits out the all-star game so the Orioles can have the entire starting infield not named Cano

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 13 July 2013 06:32 (eight years ago) link

Is he headed for the DL? I couldn't really tell from what I read.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 July 2013 13:49 (eight years ago) link

HR first AB after four or five games off.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 July 2013 00:11 (eight years ago) link

First swing!

Andy K, Sunday, 28 July 2013 00:32 (eight years ago) link

how and where would one ideally pitch to miguel cabrera

besides four wide ones

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 July 2013 01:22 (eight years ago) link

I saw highlights of his tête-à-tête with Salazar last night--very entertaining. First three times up, Salazar struck him out, challenging him every time. In the second or third AB, there was a pitch where Cabrera (good-naturedly) signaled out to the mound that he just missed the last pitch by a bit, and maybe he'd like to come in with another one in the same spot. Salazar does, strikes him out. Fourth time up, Salazar still pitching, Cabrera knocks him out with a 420-ft. HR.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:03 (eight years ago) link


Andy K, Friday, 9 August 2013 01:33 (eight years ago) link

Forgot about Salazar pointing up after contact.

Yeah, there it goes.

Andy K, Friday, 9 August 2013 15:05 (eight years ago) link

That's a great piece. I wish I could find video of Cabrera joking around about the pitch he just missed--did you see that, Andy?

clemenza, Friday, 9 August 2013 15:06 (eight years ago) link

The only thing I recall from one of the at-bats is Cabrera doing his nod of respect (as if to say, "Hey, all right -- you are providing me with a challenge") between a couple pitches.

Andy K, Friday, 9 August 2013 15:26 (eight years ago) link

Two HRs off Rivera in the same series.

Andy K, Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:12 (eight years ago) link

This post is meant for me and me alone. Please, move along.

I was trying to estimate his chance of another Triple Crown, and I figure it's 5% at best. If you took Chris Davis out of the equation, I'd say he'd be up around 80 or 90% at this point.

He's probably close to locking up the batting title--put him at a conservative 85% there. RBI, 45% (and 45% for Davis, and 10% for the rest of the league). But home runs, he'd have to make up six in the remaining games. Even if Davis were to settle into a 30-HR pace the rest of the way--which doesn't seem that unreasonable--he'd still hit 9 or 10, putting him around 50. Cabrera needs 14 more for 50, which would mean continuing his current pace. The chances of both those things happening, or something close in either direction? I don't know--10-15%? 85% x 45% x 15% = 6%. But Cabrera won't play every game, and he walks a lot, and Davis may stay hot, so knock that down even more.

clemenza, Monday, 12 August 2013 00:35 (eight years ago) link


stark on where miggy ranks with the greatest RH hitters ever

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 August 2013 17:04 (eight years ago) link

He should have 3000 hits in 5-6 years, which is pretty remarkable.

van smack, Thursday, 15 August 2013 19:57 (eight years ago) link

He's got a decent shot at a couple of very short lists:

2000 RBI: Aaron, Ruth, Anson (and A-Rod, if he can get another 50)
6000 Total Bases: Aaron, Musial, Mays (A-Rod still needs close to 600)

The RBI mark is easier--seven more seasons of typical performance (110 a year). TB, he'd need probably need eight more--he'll cross 3,500 this year. He turns 31 next April. But at the same point, Pujols was at 1,230 RBI and 3,580 TB--basically the same. Things change.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:28 (eight years ago) link

also the rbis are dependent on the team around him

what do we know about miggy, except that he likes a drink? does he watch a ton of video? does he spend half his waking life in the cage? is he a savant?

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:34 (eight years ago) link

Saved his teammates in combat in China; loves to play solitaire.

cops on horse (WilliamC), Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:41 (eight years ago) link

Tigers' analyst just pointed out that his front leg and foot moved and/or landed differently on recent HRs off Rivera, Danks.

Andy K, Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:57 (eight years ago) link

also the rbis are dependent on the team around him

Less so than most players, I think. I checked his ten 100-RBI seasons, and four of the teams were below the league average in runs, six were above. (All but one Marlins team below, all but one Tigers team above; many of them on either side were fairly close to the league average.) Provided he's healthy, he doesn't strike me as someone who's only going to knock in 80 because the players in front of him aren't anything special.

clemenza, Friday, 16 August 2013 00:29 (eight years ago) link

What I'm saying is that his RBI consistency doesn't seem especially a function of anything other than him being his normal self when hitting with baserunners:

Career: .321/.399/.570
Runners on: .332/.411/.577
RISP: .337/.433/.570

Now, I don't know whether he's batted more often than average with baserunners on over the course of his career--with Florida, probably not, with the Tigers, quite probably yes.

One thing that surprises me looking at his splits is how much better he is against finesse pitchers than power pitchers:

Power (1,300+ AB): .277/.394/.495
Finesse (2,500+ AB): .350/.421/.615

That's a sizable gap. I thought great power hitters were almost always great fastball hitters.

clemenza, Friday, 16 August 2013 00:43 (eight years ago) link

where are you getting the power/finesse splits from?

mookieproof, Friday, 16 August 2013 01:57 (eight years ago) link

It's all on Baseball Reference, in the Career Batting Splits section:


They have three categories: power, average power/finesse, finesse. There's got to be some subjectivity at work there in the grey area.

Not to press the point, but I was thinking about who Cabrera's been hitting behind this year: Austin Jackson/Andy Dirks and Torii Hunter. Jackson and Dirks have been mediocre at best in the lead-off spot: Jackson's .264/.332/.411 (not good at getting on base, decent power), Dirks is .278/.300/.371. Hitting #2, Hunter is .305/.340/.463--good power, nothing special in getting on. Cabrera's knocking in a run a game because of Cabrera: .391/.506/.807 with runners on (wow), .437/.555/.899 with RISP (really wow).

clemenza, Friday, 16 August 2013 02:11 (eight years ago) link

The MLB site had a lead story last night about Cabrera on the verge of passing Ruth in career hits. He went 0-3 in each game and is now hitting .146.

clemenza, Friday, 30 April 2021 12:04 (eight months ago) link

New obsession: .125.

clemenza, Saturday, 1 May 2021 21:39 (eight months ago) link

I’m going to assume he’s the hands down worst of the big contracts right now? (Votto and Pujols I think are just regular bad)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 May 2021 21:43 (eight months ago) link

miggy was a league-average hitter last year and votto is so far this year. pujols hasn't been since 2016

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 May 2021 22:40 (eight months ago) link

I thought Votto was doing much worse than he actually is.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 2 May 2021 00:17 (eight months ago) link

he had a huge game yesterday but otherwise has been awful

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 May 2021 04:50 (eight months ago) link

mookie's right tho – according to his OPS+ he's right on league average. obviously tho, in terms of his contract it's p bad.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 2 May 2021 14:14 (eight months ago) link

0-4, .115 (OPS = .443).

clemenza, Sunday, 2 May 2021 20:04 (eight months ago) link

Votto was great in 2017, Cabrera was great in 2016, Pujols' last great year was ... 2010 or 2011? He wins hands down.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 3 May 2021 11:30 (eight months ago) link

This must be the abyss looking back: 0-5, 7 left on base, .105 (OPS = .406, tribute to Ted Williams).

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 02:55 (eight months ago) link

Miguel Cabrera is hitless in his last 24 at-bats after a second-inning groundout against Martin Perez. It's the longest hitless stretch of his career.

— Jason Beck (@beckjason) May 6, 2021

Andy K, Thursday, 6 May 2021 00:12 (eight months ago) link

stumbled on Miguel Cabrera's stat line like it was a jump scare in a low-budget horror movie

— Patrick Dubuque (@euqubud) May 5, 2021

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 May 2021 00:30 (eight months ago) link

Damn, that's almost as bad as Francisco Lindor's stats.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 May 2021 01:16 (eight months ago) link

0-2; two more hitless AB will drop him under .100.

That Tigers lineup tonight is something to behold. Candelario is batting third and hitting .281. The other eight spots: .216, .175, .102, .210, .192, .159, .158, .200. It's the Detroit Maxvills.

clemenza, Thursday, 6 May 2021 01:30 (eight months ago) link

Miguel Cabrera's second consecutive two-hit game moves him to 2876 hits for his career, tying him with Mel Ott for 44th on MLB's all-time list.

— Jason Beck (@beckjason) May 8, 2021

Andy K, Saturday, 8 May 2021 23:25 (eight months ago) link

the kid is on fire

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 9 May 2021 00:41 (eight months ago) link

In honor of @MiguelCabrera becoming the All-Time Venezuelan-Born Hits leader tonight, I have created an interactive timeline detailing the Venezuelan-Born hit leaders since the debut of Ãlex Carrasquel in 1939.

Check out and see all of the Venezuelan greats in MLB history 🇻🇪🔥 pic.twitter.com/HPZR9JEu8Z

— Greg Harvey (@BetweenTheNums) May 13, 2021

Andy K, Thursday, 13 May 2021 22:18 (eight months ago) link

watching aparicio and concepcion show up made me so happy

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 13 May 2021 22:38 (eight months ago) link

i love a good interactive timeline

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 22:45 (eight months ago) link

that guy recently did one of those for all-time bWAR

mookieproof, Thursday, 13 May 2021 22:50 (eight months ago) link

i like how it's quiet for a while in the 80s-90s and then suddenly here comes bonds

mookieproof, Thursday, 13 May 2021 22:52 (eight months ago) link

that's the most publicity ross barnes has gotten in a century

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 22:58 (eight months ago) link

but until deacon white and the very normal and not racist at all cap anson came along, ross barnes was a fucking legend

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 22:59 (eight months ago) link

i think i made an ed delanhanty reference as a small child to some baseball guy. he had no idea what i was talking about, but that was a sweet reference for a kid in the single digits of age

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 23:00 (eight months ago) link

i was probably like "this kid is no ed delanhanty, that's for fucking sure", and he just didn't get it

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 23:00 (eight months ago) link

kind of suprised to see gehringer still in the top 15 as of 1942. i guess i always thought of him as one of those guys who had a crazy good BA in the 30s

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 23:03 (eight months ago) link

sorry, just got to put itt, why not:

In honor of the great Willie Mays and his 90th birthday on Thursday, I have created an interactive graphic that details the progressive All-Time leaders in Position Player bWAR.

Check this out to see many of your favorite players throughout MLB history! #SayHeyKid ⚾️🔥@SFGiants pic.twitter.com/wrTOYXHh9H

— Greg Harvey (@BetweenTheNums) May 8, 2021

i love in 1988 when schmidt is like "hey" at the very bottom of the top 15

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 23:07 (eight months ago) link

most underrated legend: tris speaker
honorable mention: mel ott

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 23:07 (eight months ago) link

kinda interesting there is a kind of historical stasis from like 1977-1990 and what does that mean re: peoples' fondness for the go-go 80's skinny pants era

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 13 May 2021 23:45 (eight months ago) link

it just means they love the underdogs

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:50 (eight months ago) link

willie mcgee is not on that list. he is a living legend

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:50 (eight months ago) link

kinda interesting there is a kind of historical stasis from like 1977-1990 and what does that mean re: peoples' fondness for the go-go 80's skinny pants era

― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, May 13, 2021 7:45 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Good question! My instinct is to think that maybe that the game was more balanced?

Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 May 2021 02:58 (eight months ago) link

Sure but balance can also suggest the game wasnt played very good? Im not saying that from a max efficiency POV just like maybe baseball players secretly sucked

Really it’s the skinny pants.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 May 2021 03:25 (eight months ago) link

it's just the product of time. early on ross barnes is a stud with 28 WAR and you can see all these guys pass him; after a century of greats, you need 100 WAR just to appear at the bottom of the list (and the two that show up after 1990 had some chemical help after all). trout may be the only shot for someone else to break in in our lifetimes

also WAR is relative -- it has nothing to say about absolute quality of play. adam ottavino is right that babe ruth would be no match for today's pitchers (or likely even those of the 80s)

mookieproof, Friday, 14 May 2021 03:36 (eight months ago) link

100 war won’t happen for pitchers again I believe, unless scientific progress extended the careers of starting pitchers by a substantial margin. Hitters I’m less sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if Betts got in the 85-95 range, and thinking that makes me believe another player in the next 30-40 years could get to 100.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 May 2021 04:13 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

Good June: 329/.356/.494. Just passed Gehrig and Crime Dog.

Andy K, Thursday, 1 July 2021 22:38 (six months ago) link

one month passes...


Andy K, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 00:24 (five months ago) link


Andy K, Thursday, 12 August 2021 02:16 (five months ago) link

500 tmrw?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 12 August 2021 02:23 (five months ago) link

mookieproof, Sunday, 22 August 2021 18:57 (five months ago) link


Andy K, Sunday, 22 August 2021 21:01 (five months ago) link

Glad to see everyone at the game seemed to know what was up.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 August 2021 05:30 (five months ago) link

shortstop with plus defense


mookieproof, Monday, 23 August 2021 19:04 (five months ago) link

Intense eyes!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 00:22 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

NOT A CLOGGER, and has now set this trivial record:

Eight consecutive hits for Miguel Cabrera, who lines Michael Wacha's 2-1 pitch into center. Cabrera is the first Tiger in the expansion era (since 1961) to hit in eight consecutive plate appearances.

— Jason Beck (@beckjason) September 10, 2021

Andy K, Friday, 10 September 2021 23:58 (four months ago) link

wait, we're using "since the expansion era" as a timeframe now? but "since the expansion era" makes it less impressive, both because it's a shorter amount of time (compared to integration/1947 or since the deadball era, 1918/19 whatever), and also the overall quality of talent dropped (same overall players and talent spread out across more teams, with more minor leaguers to fill in the gaps)


"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 September 2021 00:06 (four months ago) link

9 straight!

k3vin k., Saturday, 11 September 2021 00:22 (four months ago) link

The MLB record is 12, held by Johnny Kling (1902), Pinky Higgins (1932), and Walt Dropo (1952).

Andy K, Saturday, 11 September 2021 00:31 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Two hits today; would need 14 in 6 games for 3,000. Not that he'd retire anyway.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 00:44 (three months ago) link

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