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MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH!

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

The person who grabbed that ball would've been killed at Yankees Stadium.

Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck you, "Ann."

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

Still got game 7. Still got game 7 *repeat ad infinitim while rocking back and forth and staring into space*

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:00 (twenty years ago) link

Yankees-Cubs world series, I still say.

Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

god, i try to be optimistic about the cubbies, but they just cant finish

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:04 (twenty years ago) link

Those fans are gonna haveta move to another city.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck you, "Ann."
-- felicity (felicityredwel...), October 15th, 2003.

Oh, god, now I've morphed into Ally-zay and a goat... I don't like where this is headed...

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:11 (twenty years ago) link

Man, it's gonna be a rough day at school tomorrow for somebody.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:12 (twenty years ago) link

I dunnae think she was talkin' to me. Though if she WAS you better believe I'm gon KICK HER ASS when I see her next!! BEYOTCH!

Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:12 (twenty years ago) link

Well it's fine as long as Ann/Brian is not pretending to be two people agreeing with yourself. That bugs me.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:14 (twenty years ago) link

Now I'm a hermaphrodite. Thanks a LOT.

ACtually, thanks sincerely -- now I can put my dick in that kid's eye!

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:19 (twenty years ago) link

I have been known to inhabit the bodies of Rick Moody and a complaint generator, but never Ann's.

PS It was a real mistake to cut the hair.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:20 (twenty years ago) link

This thread gives me absolutely no consolation regarding tonight's game.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:49 (twenty years ago) link

Someone send Alex Gonzalez Bill Buckner's phone number. Maybe he can get some advice.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

This thread gives me absolutely no consolation regarding tonight's game.

You're looking in the wrong place. What hope is left resides in Kid K's arm.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

BOO-YA!!!

http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10006000/10006116.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

God bless the Brett Favre of baseball!!!

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 03:26 (twenty years ago) link

felicity's feisty!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 03:38 (twenty years ago) link

not as feisty as this guy though!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 03:43 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.noz.nl/images/snf-03-10-2002.jpg

Staying alive, staying alive...ah, ah, ah, ah, staying alllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivvvvvvvvvvveeeeeee....

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 03:47 (twenty years ago) link

Well, you know, at least they kicked the Braves' ass. Arguably because the Braves are the biggets chokers of all--but still.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 03:55 (twenty years ago) link

I'm waiting for the "Fuck You Texas Rangers" moment for Pudge. You know he wants to.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

And when might that happen, exactly?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:05 (twenty years ago) link

Hopefully while he's hoisting the World Series MVP award (though I'm rooting for the Cubs, and then the Red Sox in the Series, Pudge getting WS MVP would be great).

"Tom Hicks refused to re-sign me, because I was washed up. Tom Hicks can suck it!"

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:12 (twenty years ago) link

If he could take a shot at the local sportswriters who tried to gang up on him, too, that'd be great. "Oh, Pudge is bad for pitchers, he calls bad games to help his stolen base stats."

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:13 (twenty years ago) link

HOLY SHIT - did they actually say that?

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:14 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, yeah, I saw that in both the local dailies. But only, of course, after Pudge was gone.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

Arguably because the Braves are the biggets chokers of all--but still.

The Braves are the only team to ever come back from being down 3-1 in a series.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:50 (twenty years ago) link

if your were to multiply the number of world series the cubs and red sox have won in the past fifty years times a million it still wouldn't equal the number of world series the braves have won in the past ten years

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

or the number of world series the marlins will win this year

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

Let's not get out of hand here.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:59 (twenty years ago) link

watch out for da reddmannn!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 05:02 (twenty years ago) link

This is far from a lock for the Marlins. Need I remind you:

http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10006000/10006116.jpg

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 05:07 (twenty years ago) link

This exchange (from the playoffs thread) just made me shudder:

Sorry Leee, I've gotta root for Florida because they'll be easier opponents for the Cubs.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), October 1st, 2003 6:28 PM. (jaymc)
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Careful, last time the Fish beat the Giants in a DS, they won the whole bloody thing.

-- Leee (redhalcyo...), October 1st, 2003 6:50 PM. (Leee)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 05:10 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, but look at wood! All orange and explody!

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 05:15 (twenty years ago) link

... clown ... flashbacks ...

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 05:18 (twenty years ago) link

"Guess what? The bookies aren't laughing anymore."

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 05:25 (twenty years ago) link

I was just upset at Blount rubbing it in. But you know what I'm saying--refresh my memory, how many similarly dominant teams in the history of sports have ended up with so little to show for it? (I'm sure there are a few, but it's late.) Is choking more about ceasing suddenly to overachieve, or ...

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 05:27 (twenty years ago) link

oh my god im going to cry

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 05:30 (twenty years ago) link

from the above story on bookies:

"You don't get grief for being a Cubs fan," Jones said about her new life in Las Vegas. "You get grief for being a Bears fan, because they don't win."

huh? i seem to recall the bears winning a superbowl in the 80s...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 10:30 (twenty years ago) link

"Still got game 7. Still got game 7"

That's probably what Red Sox were saying in 86.

At least Gonzales actually has driven in some runs in this series, unlike Leon Durham who couldn't drive in a needed run AND would boot a play to lose a game. (Mind you, Durham was the reason that the Cubs traded Buckner to the Red Sox.)

The first time I ever got drunk was at my cousins wedding reception in 84, I was 14 and got blammoed stealing drinks off of tables after seeing Lee Smith gave up that gopher ball to Steve Garvey on the TV in the lobby.

earlnash, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:31 (twenty years ago) link

You Cubs fans can console yourself with the fact that at least they're not the Tigers.

Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 11:38 (twenty years ago) link

But the Tigers are just plain terrible -- they don't toy with you.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

But the magnitude of their suckage is something that is almost indescribably depressing.

Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 14:06 (twenty years ago) link

But Detroit has the Red Wings!

Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

And Ben Wallace's 'fro!

Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

The Tigers also won a World Series more recently than the Cubs.

hstencil, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

Everyone has won a World Series more recently than the Cubs. Including the Sox. Both of 'em.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:52 (twenty years ago) link

But the Tigers won it in 1984, which is at least within my lifetime.

hstencil, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

(I was sort of rooting for the Red Sox, in a "if the Cubs can't lift their curse..." way.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 October 2003 05:25 (twenty years ago) link

I was assuming Yankees hate was universal (save for some aberrant perps here), which at this point has resumed its place in my heart.

Leee (Leee), Thursday, 16 October 2003 05:33 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck! Kenan, I waited a bit, then had another drink across the street ... er, Green Mill?

jackson anderville, Thursday, 16 October 2003 05:36 (twenty years ago) link

If the Yankees win, I'm theirs this year.

jackson anderville, Thursday, 16 October 2003 05:37 (twenty years ago) link

Next day thoughts:

It still hasn't quite sunk in that they lost. I mean, how? There's something almost unreal about it. They HAD it. Where did it go?

Rationally, we all know where it went -- there was that awful eighth inning, and then last night there was Wood giving up seven earned runs (earned runs, no less!) and Dusty leaving him there to do it. The Cubs don't need a new bullpen, they need a new goddamn manager. I'd like to thump his melon.

And then on the other hand, if I had been pulling for the Marlins, which I hadn't because I'm an indie fuxor and there's just too much romance at stake not to pull for the Cubs, but if I had been, I would be thrilled beyond thrilled. What a great team. Beckett was a marvel, and Miguel Cabrera is the most adorable thing ever to play great baseball. It's impossible not to like these guys. They're so nice, so well-meaning, so clean, so talented, so... good. Face it, Chicago, the Marlins are very very good. I thought I wouldn't watch the World Series if the Cubs lost, but I can't help it. I'm no hardcore loyalist. I've come around to Diamond's way of thinking. I just want to see people play baseball, and play it well.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:45 (twenty years ago) link

I want to see people play baseball, and play it poorly, and be violent babies about it and fight and hit each other. For example, tonight's game.

Ally-zay, Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:51 (twenty years ago) link

The Cubs don't need a new bullpen, they need a new goddamn manager. I'd like to thump his melon.

I can't abide this line of thought. Dusty has been very, very good throughout the season, and is a big part of how the team went from a 67-95 record last year to the NLCS this year.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 October 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

Leee, you mean I'll become a Marlins fan in a Marlins-Yankees series? Yeah, probably. Not sure about Marlins-Red Sox, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 October 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

i asked my indians fan friend who he'll root for in a marlins-yanks world series (cuz there's nothing tribe fans hate more than those two teams and joey belle). his response: "the planes to crash."

and why hasn't jeffrey maier been mentioned in this cub fan hubbub??? that was an even worse fuckup by a fan!!!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 16 October 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

I want to see people play baseball, and play it poorly, and be violent babies about it and fight and hit each other.

Meh, we got elections for that. Baseball is _serious_.

Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 16 October 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

Tad sez: this is why chicago sucks, in comparison to either NYC or Philly -- 'cause in either of those two cities, the person who grabbed the ball would have been killed or would have to leave town with private (not police) escort. dusty baker was right.

I'm sure some people are consulting the northwest suburban mafia already. It will take time for them to execute the perfect plan. They will bury him under their driveway or something.

Love that Eddie Bauer Cubs hat Billy Corgan was wearing.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 16 October 2003 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

What I want to know:

How is Darren Baker doing?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

He was already quoted as saying "The Cubs will win next year." Had the Cubbies won last night, I'm sure we woulda heard how Darren predicted it. What a punk.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks for the condolences from Y3 and Diamond. I went to the game. That's right, a friend got me a ticket and I went.

There were a lot of good signs at the game (don't know if they showed the goat-related ones on TV) but the funniest thing we saw was afterwards leaving Wrigley Field a guy walking around with a hand-made sign that simply said "GOD HELP US."

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

http://home.earthlink.net/~brinkroad/images/cd201.gif

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

Love the indie guilt Randall Simon "Reynolds" (see also "Greil" Marcus Giles, "Chuck" Eddy Guardado).

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link

hmph. Leave me alone.

:)

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:56 (twenty years ago) link

bnw, did you actually "make" that? I find it quite . . . touching. Especially the Kenny Lofton flower in the middle.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

the card was admittedly touching, although i find it criminal that there's no bartman on that card.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

There is a Bartman flower all the way on the right. It's kind of wilty.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link

Is that me on the bottom there? That looks a hell of a lot like me. Weird. Who is that?

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

haha, i am blind.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

How is Darren Baker doing?

Oh man, gygax is so OTM here. I mean, do we still "trusty" in "Dusty"? What is Darren Baker doing up there on that podium with Dusty? Shouldn't he have to answer some tough questions after some questionable decisions? Isn't he just using his cute son to paint himself as a more sympathetic figure?

Doesn't he need to asked why Matt Clement is sitting on the bench stroking his beard? McKeon had Redman out of there in a hearbeat. Does Dusty understand the urgency of the situation. Meanwhile, Kerry Wood is allowed to give up 7 earned? And why does Kerry Wood receive a standing ovation after giving up seven earned? I guarantee you that would never happen at Sox park. Guarantee it. I'm pretty sure I talked about his control on this or the other thread a couple nights ago. I give him a lot of credit for his post-game comments though. Anyway, that reception is why the Tribune company doesn't have to do jack to help this team win, and Cub fans will lie there and take it. For 95 years.

Anyway, wow felicity you went to the game! Man, I'm really sorry, I truly am. As I say, I actually coerced myself into rooting for the Cub last night, for the sake of the city and the people I know who hold them dear. I still can't get over what that Beckett kid did last night. Incredible. Has anybody ever given up only one run in 13 innings of work in a span of 4 DAYS?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:22 (twenty years ago) link

Seriously, who is that, it's creeping me out.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:22 (twenty years ago) link

I think the fans recognized that Wood is a pretty great pitcher this year and he hit a mammoth fucking homerun to tie the game earlier!!!

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:33 (twenty years ago) link

It is you!

I saw like 5 seconds of the game last night. Nick said I needed to get used to paying attention to the Cubs. Some guy had to duck because the ball would've hit him in the head. Then they showed him ducking from like 7 different angles. It was funny.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

I think the fans recognized that Wood is a pretty great pitcher this year and he hit a mammoth fucking homerun to tie the game earlier!!!

Yeah, actually, I completely forgot about the game situation for a brief instant while we were applauding Wood.

AT WRIGLEY. KERRY WOOD EXITS.

Me: (clapping head off) KERRY! WE LOVE YOU!
Me: (to friend) Why is he hanging his head down like that?
Friend: I think he's upset about the 3 runs he just gave up.
Me: Oh.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:51 (twenty years ago) link

did you cry, f? if so, did mark come out of the dugout to console you? i would've!!! shall we have raucous world series parteeeees?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

keep it in your pants yance

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:54 (twenty years ago) link

get off the bus gus

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

get a new plan stan

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

sorry

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

Yanc3y, are you still drunk from last nite???

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:58 (twenty years ago) link

wtf? can a man not console a friend in a slightly condescending/totally creepy/but in reality very loving way?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

There's no crying in baseball!

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

tell that to darren baker.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

It was funny, though. I was totally taken by surprise at the end of the game when the Marlins suddenly starting being happy and celebrating and piling on, because my brain had just nonsensically assumed that since we were at Wrigley Field the only two outcomes were 1. celebration or 2. non-celebration and that in the event of 2. everyone would be very sad and solemn and walk quietly off the field, including the Marlins.

It kind of cracked me up when I realized how deluded that was.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

Yanc3y claimed all of us NYC Laydeez as his like a year ago, it's no longer creepy to us when he acts like this. It's like he's Charlie and we're the Angels. Don't worry. But there really is no crying in baseball. Unless Pedro Martinez body slams you to the ground, then you cry I think.

Ally-zay, Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

mmhmm

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

Y, please carry on. "I'm lovin' it."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

Yanc3y claimed all of us NYC Laydeez as his like a year ago


Ha ha, so true.

I myself have these weird Yanc3ylike feelings of possessiveness over a guy at my tennis club for no reason. The poor guy goes there with his girlfriend and I have these irrational angry feelings towards her, that she is not worthy of being his girlfriend (even though I don't know either of them at all), so seeing them together makes me livid with rage, even though I have no connection to them whatsoever.

x-post: Oh come on, Darren Baker is like 4 years old! It's cute when he cries. Like when the college basketball cheerleaders cry, I love that.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

A Cubs fan gets some perspective:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/shea/031016.html

"The Cubs are it for me. The other sports I love, but this would be the greatest. ... I don't need it anymore. I have a son; he's 1-year-old. That's my joy. I don't need the Cubs anymore. But, you know, life will go on and we'll get through this."

Does this mean he didn't pay attention to his child before the Cubs lost? Weel, shit... Go Marlins!

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 17 October 2003 05:37 (twenty years ago) link

the kid's only one - what's to pay attention to?

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 17 October 2003 05:43 (twenty years ago) link

yeah all they do at that age is cry (they're kinda like cubs and sox fans)

geeta (geeta), Friday, 17 October 2003 05:53 (twenty years ago) link

ha! No shit, dude. Maybe it's my lack of perspective on history, but I'm gonna lose patience with this whinging real quick-like. And nobody better say "curse." That wuzn't no curse, boy, that was losing some key games right there.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 17 October 2003 05:55 (twenty years ago) link

Bold statement.

oops (Oops), Friday, 17 October 2003 06:05 (twenty years ago) link

Bold statement to say it wasn't a curse? Were you watching?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 17 October 2003 06:12 (twenty years ago) link

I meant that I was just so sure that a goat was the reason why they lost the series. It's the only explanation. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go trim my rabbits' feet and see if my mother's back is okay.

oops (Oops), Friday, 17 October 2003 06:30 (twenty years ago) link

bold statement

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 17 October 2003 07:36 (twenty years ago) link

seven years pass...

http://triblocal.com/downers-grove/2011/06/24/police-men-bound-for-cubs-game-accused-of-yelling-slurs-at-children/

this kind of squares w/ my opinion of suburban cubs fans. (speaking as someone who grew up around wrigley and had to put up with them.)

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 25 June 2011 06:39 (twelve years ago) link


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