players whose best season was their rookie season

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pondered this q after eric hinske hit a HR this afternoon.

hinske
jerome walton
dwight smith
angel berroa

omar little, Friday, 6 May 2011 00:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

jeff francoeur ~_~

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Friday, 6 May 2011 00:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Fidrych

Andy K, Friday, 6 May 2011 00:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Valenzuela

Stomp! in the name of love (WmC), Friday, 6 May 2011 01:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

you could name a lot of ROYs here.
along with Walton, Fidrych, Valenzuela, Berroa and Hinske, there's: Hideo Nomo, Pat Listach, Bobby Crosby, Bob Hamelin, Scott Williamson, possibly Huston Street...

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 6 May 2011 02:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Why You Treat Me Like" Anibal Sanchez

Andy K, Friday, 6 May 2011 02:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mike Dunne
Matt Nokes
Kevin Maas
Milt Cuyler

Andy K, Friday, 6 May 2011 02:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

kevin seitzer comes close. i feel like there were a lot of rookies in '87 who owned (juiced ball?) and then dropped off.

omar little, Friday, 6 May 2011 03:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah McGwire too, wasn't his rookie season his best til he started juicin?

ruingin (rip van wanko), Friday, 6 May 2011 03:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hinske is trying very hard to get off of this list in 2011.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

haven't looked it up, but Fred Lynn?

resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 May 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

nah, looks like his '79 was better than '75

resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 May 2011 20:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

I want to say a lot of the Dodgers ROYs from the '90s? But maybe I am biased.

NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Saturday, 14 May 2011 22:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

kevin maas

johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 May 2011 22:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

whoops didnt see andy k already listed him

johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 May 2011 22:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Matt Nokes

Glad to see he's listed here. Nokes had a terrific rookie season.

last updated 2 minutes ago by 1 minute ago (van smack), Sunday, 15 May 2011 04:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Garry Templeton

buzza, Sunday, 15 May 2011 05:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Kerry Wood, arguably--it's close.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 May 2011 17:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

These are free (and about baseball, not politics or music or anything else):

The 25 Most Disappointing Rookies of All Time

25 Players Who Turned Out to Be Far better Than It Looked Like They Could Be as Rookies

clemenza, Friday, 26 October 2018 22:05 (one month ago) Permalink

jason heyward fits into this category, at least on the offensive side of things. it's kind of tough to imagine him ever putting up a 131 OPS+ ever again. but his 2015 year with the cardinals was just slightly his best overall year, taking into account his fielding.

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 October 2018 22:18 (one month ago) Permalink

probably can add Hellickson and maybe Jose Abreu to the list

omar little, Friday, 26 October 2018 22:34 (one month ago) Permalink

looking back i remember ol Rick Wilkins, part-time Cubs catcher pressed into full-time duty in 1993 at age 26 and he responded w/30 HR and a .303/.376./561 slash line. he never even slugged .400 again.

he wasn't quite a rookie though, he just didn't play quite as much in his first two seasons.

omar little, Friday, 26 October 2018 22:47 (one month ago) Permalink

One guy who comes to mind for the Jays is Juan Guzman. He was 10-3/2.99 as a 24-year-old rookie (3.2 WAR), 16-5/2.64 as a sophomore (5.5). He had one great season after that where he won an ERA title, but he was finished the next year and out of the league at 33. His IP weren't noticeably high his first few years, so I don't think he was mishandled.

clemenza, Friday, 26 October 2018 23:04 (one month ago) Permalink

what i remember about Juan Guzman (who was exceptional for those couple seasons) was that his sophomore season coincided w/Greg Maddux's first Cy Young season, after which the Cubs let him walk because...

After Maddux filed for free agency, he fielded offers from the New York Yankees and the Atlanta Braves. After he received his offer from the Braves, he contacted Himes to see if Himes would match the offer. Himes declined, stating that he spent Maddux's money on Randy Myers, José Guzmán, Dan Plesac and Candy Maldonado.

...uh anyway i was 18, not following eligibility as readily, and i thought initially when they announced the Guzman signing that they signed Juan Guzman.

I will hate Larry Himes forever.

omar little, Friday, 26 October 2018 23:36 (one month ago) Permalink

to this day whenever i see a player named maldonado i think of candy

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:02 (one month ago) Permalink

whenever i see an unrelated thread revive during the World Series, i know it's someone who missed the first 2 games

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:06 (one month ago) Permalink

did you watch the 2009 series?

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:10 (one month ago) Permalink

first game, i think

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:14 (one month ago) Permalink

I was figuring that Fred Lynn's best year for WAR might been his rookie season when he won the MVP, but man he had a 8.9 WAR year in '79 according to Baseball Reference. His WAR total for his MVP year was 7.4.

earlnash, Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:19 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrQtYheE0No

Andy K, Saturday, 27 October 2018 01:59 (one month ago) Permalink


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