ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

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idk, do we have one of these? i've been trying to up my style game recently and thought it might be good to have a thread to post stuff i like, get the occasional opinion, etc. open to all, anything from business dress to casual etc.etc. maybe i should just get a pinterest or something.

*i'd like this thread to be about actual clothes ppl are wearing or considering wearing, there's an ile thread if you want to talk about the menswear blogosphere or make fun of stuff.

anyway, i don't have much occasion to wear ties, but i saw this on sale and became sort of obsessed with it so just placed the order. i want to wear it at thanksgiving or christmas:

http://www.drakes-london.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/517x579/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/9/a9wb.55065.001_m.jpg

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 03:54 (six years ago) link

i like this etsy seller's ties:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5912974/il_570xN.279574838.jpg

just1n3, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 05:05 (six years ago) link

xpost wear it to an iggles game idk :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 05:29 (six years ago) link

I guess I need to wear a tie to my job interviews next week but just realised I only have wedding/party ties.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 11:46 (six years ago) link

I need a fashion upgrade, I just feel like a schlub with most of my biz cas at work. I've always just gotten dockers to wear to work, because they're cheap and I've had trouble staying the same pants size over the course of my adult life. I never wanted to drop the coin on nicer pants because I knew in 6 months I would not fit in them. Plus I wear those dockers the fuck out. They are frazzled around the legs and the waist, all of them. Since I've been able to basically stay the same weight for the last year and a half now, I think it may be time to consider something better.

As for shirts, I have about 14 of the same kind of shirt, just in different colors/patterns. They are fine, but again, I've worn them the fuck out. Also, I have a bunch of mediums that don't fit as well as the few smalls that I have. I always buy them on sale, so it's hard to stumble upon the correct size, and I always seem to get heavily patterned ones, nothing basic.

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

Don't even get me started on my shoes.

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:11 (six years ago) link

Bottom of my shoes currently. el oh el

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5486/9458816502_677037dd49.jpg

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:17 (six years ago) link

I started wearing Dockers this year because I had problems splitting the seat of all the mid-range, Macy's-bought wool dress pants (Nautica, Calvin Klein, etc.) I had been wearing. It was a choice between spending all this damn money getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time or buying a new pair of pants for $35 a couple times a year. I'm pretty happy with the Dockers, but yeah, one of them has the makings of a hole in the knee already because my legs don't fit into the seats on my commuter bus.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:21 (six years ago) link

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:25 (six years ago) link

Also, I sprung $150 for a pair of Ecco's a few years ago. They're comfortable, but they emit a horrible squeak when I walk across polished floors. Since I won't be able to afford another $150 to drop on shoes in the near future, fuck it, I'm just going to squeak everywhere I go.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:29 (six years ago) link

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

this is interesting. the guys who started it have a decent rep for their suits, i think. i don't like that you sign up for the service without ever trying a shirt--i think they should send you one to start sizing and let you assess the quality (if you've only been wearing s/m/l, go to a tailor or nice clothing store and get measured for your shirt size!). also it is all or nothing--you keep the three shirts or return them all. i assume that means they're going with pretty safe fabrics, colors, and patterns--fine if you're not picky.

getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

agreed. i had a longstanding no s/m/l shirts policy that i recently broke for some cheap j. crew casual button up shirts for summer. they fit great through my torso and had enormous sleeves (which was not a problem since i only wore them with the sleeves cuffed).

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:08 (six years ago) link

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

Not enough for them to actually be clean or unwrinkled most of the time.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:16 (six years ago) link

It may just be the quality I was buying, but every shirt that I've got based on neck size has been voluminous everywhere else.

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:31 (six years ago) link

u need slim fit

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:31 (six years ago) link

yep

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:34 (six years ago) link

buying fitted shirts changed my life

click here to start exploding (ledge), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:34 (six years ago) link

Is there a medium fit? I need to find something between wearing a balloon with a collar and wearing a corset.

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:35 (six years ago) link

Try different brands I guess? Some give chest/sleeve measurements as well as collar size.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:38 (six years ago) link

Maybe I just need a thinner neck!!

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:39 (six years ago) link

if you want to be super anal you can get a measuring tape and take some basic measurements on the best-fitting shirt you have to compare to web sizing info (or be even crazier and bring your measuring tape to the store too). i've taken to doing this with things like leg openings on pants.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:05 (six years ago) link

i don't think that is super anal, i think that is just good sense. shopping online without knowing your preferred measurements is a complete crapshoot

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:09 (six years ago) link

SUPER anal is keeping your measurements in an evernote doc so you always have them available on your phone, not that i know anyone who does that

max, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:16 (six years ago) link

i bought a custom shirt from these dudes http://www.blacklapel.com have not recieved yet, will report back

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:42 (six years ago) link

the thing abt all the custom clothes sites is none of them really have the best style but we will see i feel like they should be able to handle a white dress shirt, itd b rad to be able to get some cool ass costom suits of the nets or w/e tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:43 (six years ago) link

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:47 (six years ago) link

yeah there are tons. do let us know about your experience w/blacklapel, jho.

i got a shirt made for my wedding at a mtm shirt tailor in boston (they basically follow the web model in that the sewing is done in hong kong, but someone measures you irl) and i was a little disappointed that the resulting shirt still had tons of billowing in the back when i tucked it in. kind of soured me on the cheap-ish mtm concept. i just bought an off the rack shirt from these guys - http://www.ledbury.com that fit me perfectly through the torso (which is kind of a big deal because i'm not a small guy and really don't need any fabric pooling near my waist).

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:55 (six years ago) link

got stuff from barneys warehouse dot com yesterday

this rag n bone unit

http://i.imgur.com/7QIMZdO.jpg

couple ties

http://i.imgur.com/jkO82ci.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ePZvwoP.jpg

a shirt

http://i.imgur.com/VzYvCYh.jpg

and these apcs

http://i.imgur.com/ZzP95cc.jpg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:06 (six years ago) link

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 11:47 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya its a p amazing concept imho they keep yr measurements and then you can just order whenever, we will see re the exicuction

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:07 (six years ago) link

my menswear story is I have moths in my closet

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

bummer central

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

put some moth balls int here

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

I've been wearing short shorts lately the prostitutes outside call me "legs"

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:09 (six years ago) link

ha!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:09 (six years ago) link

i love that jacket, jho

horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:09 (six years ago) link

agree & the liberty tie is p sweet too

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:10 (six years ago) link

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:08 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol when u can get apcs for $80 maybe people just arent ready yet

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:10 (six years ago) link

tho tbh i think its already happened, im always here for you tho if you need to talk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:10 (six years ago) link

thanking you all xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:11 (six years ago) link

yeah that's a sweet haul though I share elmo's suspicion of the chillwavey jeans

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:11 (six years ago) link

theyre so luscious im just gonna luxuriate in them shits

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:13 (six years ago) link

haha nah it's cool, i just don't think i'll be climbing into any dad jeans soon

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:15 (six years ago) link

feel like dad jeans are more abt the cut, tho obvs the color factors in too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:16 (six years ago) link

i love the truly insane things in barney's warehouse like this coat.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:16 (six years ago) link

yeah they carry a p funny mix of stuff

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:17 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/OqmFsIi.jpg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:19 (six years ago) link

it's kind of sad to see things like that coat consigned to an outlet, like, i'm sure its designer was so proud of it

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:20 (six years ago) link

ok wtf is that

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:20 (six years ago) link

that shit is glorious

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:21 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/2WfRI7S.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:22 (six years ago) link

i just walked through some snow in mine!

― lag∞n, Monday, November 4, 2019 8:14 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

shd say i walked on some snow

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 01:17 (one month ago) link

i am thinking about these, i think they are handsome: https://www.sorel.com/madson-6%E2%80%9D-boot-wp-1869721.html?dwvar_1869721_variationColor=256#start=5

marcos, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 14:30 (one month ago) link

even the doc marten 1460s might work, some of them are insulated

marcos, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:16 (one month ago) link

even the doc marten 1460s might work, some of them are insulated

marcos, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:16 (one month ago) link

Doubly insulated.

tempted by the fruit of your mother (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:23 (one month ago) link

i don't really like the yellow stitching so these are nice https://www.drmartens.com/us/en/p/24924001#

marcos, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:28 (one month ago) link

ha, I have 3 pairs of docs (regular 8 hole? boots, chelseas and oxfords) and I made sure they don't have the yellow stitching.

my hiking and running shoes are merrells (my feet suck and they are so comfy) and they seem to have normal looking winter boots. The only time my docs are annoying in the rain or snow is around the laces if I am out for more than 20-30 minutes in heavy snow.

Yerac, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:32 (one month ago) link

u can just color it in w a marker, but on the other hand that is iconic yellow stitching

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:38 (one month ago) link

might i suggest the solovair "docs": https://www.solovairdirect.com/collections/classic/products/solovair-8-eye-derby-in-black

i'm wearing a pair right now. their intertwined history with dr martens is interesting

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 18:53 (one month ago) link

xpost it's iconic but I cringe away from it. Too much teenage aesthetic with the yellow stitching. My boots and oxfords are from my late 20s and i steered away even then. My somewhat recent chelsea purchase was because my nonbinary optometrist was wearing them and they looked so hot. I thought they were Alexander Wang or Jil Sander and was surprised that they were docs.

https://www.drmartens.com/us/en/p/14649001

Yerac, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:14 (one month ago) link

My somewhat recent chelsea purchase was because my nonbinary optometrist was wearing them and they looked so hot.

ok well now this makes me want to buy a pair of chelseas

marcos, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:28 (one month ago) link

wow. that’s exhausting just to read. imagine thinking it all the time!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 13:37 (one month ago) link

lol that is grotesque

adam, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:01 (one month ago) link

that was really over the top. I haven't read Zadie Smith before and that doesn't make me want to. Some of her observations seem flipped.

Yerac, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:22 (one month ago) link

i had to look up so many garment definitions just to read that

marcos, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:07 (one month ago) link

um wow whos fault is that

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:08 (one month ago) link

it served as a reminder too that i know basically nothing about clothes or fashion beyond "i like the way that looks / i don't like the way that looks"

marcos, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:08 (one month ago) link

lol even that distinction i'm not sure always sure about. "i think i don't like the way that looks.... actually it looks good" happens a lot

marcos, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:09 (one month ago) link

btw i bought these docs, i haven't worn a pair of docs in 10 years, i'm excited

https://i1.adis.ws/i/drmartens/24924001.80.jpg

marcos, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:12 (one month ago) link

I really dislike chelsea boots -- I just don't like the way that side panel thingy looks.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:16 (one month ago) link

tbh I never even thought about why it was there before, but I guess it makes the boot more flexible and easier to pull on?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:17 (one month ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:19 (one month ago) link

i like chelsea boots but too much of what i wear is so janky and they would seem kind of incongruously dressy in comparison

ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:20 (one month ago) link

same

marcos, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:22 (one month ago) link

Yeah you don't wanna be that guy who tries to dress up schlub wear with nice shoes/boots

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:29 (one month ago) link

It's very 20-year-old working at best buy but hustling for the management job

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:30 (one month ago) link

it can work but takes some finesse

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:33 (one month ago) link

...some beat up nice shoes perhaps

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:34 (one month ago) link

it took me a while to adjust to dressing appropriately when I moved 5i the West Country. If you go out on a Friday night wearing a collar, you may as well be wearing spatz and a three piece suit. Similarly, London's edgy muted tones make me feel consciously like a circus clown when I travel to the capital

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:35 (one month ago) link

recall convincing a friend to buy some slightly outrageously colored sneakers that he obviously loved soon after he moved to new york, all the while hes muttering about what his friends in the pacific north west wld think of them lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:37 (one month ago) link

Love that zadie smith piece and if you think that's too much fashion calculus then you've never done the math and don't realize that others are doing it. Idk London so I can't speak to the individual assessments, but the sense that this observation and calculation is always running in the background is otm.

It's what makes me overpack because I don't know until I get somewhere whether sandals or heels are better, if a shirt jacket is the height of fashion with an arty shawl over it, or if it's subtly too casual.

I once went to a Bronx Italian wedding in a white linen skirt and art jewelry, because it was a summer wedding, it was in the late afternoon in the country, and it was blazing hot. Everyone else was in taffeta and sequins and spike heels and I looked like a complete rube who wandered into what was billed as a "country club" but was actually one of those mirror-ceilinged wedding venues that is neither "country" nor "club." Looking back there was no lasting damage but for the 3 hours I was there it was the worst three hours of my life.

(I blame my then-boyfriend because I repeatedly asked him if it was formal and he apparently couldn't define "formal.")

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:43 (one month ago) link

moving from glasgow to vancouver was definitely a big adjustment for me in terms of what i wear. in glagsow i used to spend lots of money on clothes, generally would be wearing oxford shirts, a nice parka, a merino sweater in the winter, polo shirts in the summer, expensive jeans, adidas tennis shoes in the summer, chukka boots in the winter, nothing too practical or waterproof despite it raining constantly. vancouver i literally wear a north face jacket, a pair of loose fitting wranglers, and some old hi tec hiking boots and i look fine

ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:47 (one month ago) link

Nobody in London is impressed by the branded bags, shoes and watches that New York women always look so proud to own and yet whose only possible message to the passing observer is that there’s money in them there hills.

...sounds lovely. After successfully avoiding the name-brand handbag crowd for 20 years in NYC, I'm now plopped down among them in both schools I've worked at. Logo bags and Pandora bracelets mandatory. It's like a sorority, if it were organized around your only interest being Going to The Mall.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:51 (one month ago) link

my own fashion ignorance aside, there are so many great lines in the zadie smith thing, when she summarizes a type of person & look i can picture exactly who she is talking about

marcos, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:52 (one month ago) link

think ive worn a shirt w a collar less than five times in colorado

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:52 (one month ago) link

those doc chelseas (i don't know why they don't have a men's version listed, I remember that they used to because my optometrist and I had a discussion about which ones they were) are really great because they have a nice matte shine and are hefty enough without having a pronounced rubber colored sole. I think the look of a chelsea depends on the toe shape and what trousers are worn with them. I tend to wear high water/stovepipe trousers or high rolled jeans with them. I've worn them to work in a corporate office and also to fine dining restaurants. But I think it matters more what each person is comfortable in. I also like pulling them on without having to deal with laces or zippers. I also was a huge Jam fan at one point in my life.

Yerac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:58 (one month ago) link

also, like your docs ourchase, marcos.

The entire time during the zadie piece I kept mentally resetting the people she was likely hanging around in each city because they were not my observations at all.

Yerac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:02 (one month ago) link

whoops ourchase ---> purchase
this purchase was collectively ourchase.

Yerac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:02 (one month ago) link

I just went back to reread the Zadie Smith piece and just noticed in the middle a link to another recent article "How Dr Martens Boots Became A Model-Off-Duty Staple."

Yerac, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:20 (one month ago) link

Interestingly elastic sided boots are more work boots or farm boots than smart down here. RM Williams screems farmer in the city like a tattersall shirt would in London, so are worn by types who have never seen a cow but want the look. (Bankers wi Th a country weekender, politicians with big hats)

All the hipster girls seems to be wearing Redback and blundstones right now, in a similar way to yellow stitch DMs

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:48 (one month ago) link

thank you yerac!

marcos, Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:29 (one month ago) link

i couldn't get past the first paragraph in the zadie smith piece but i never go out and i live in utah. i feel very distantly related to social fashion rules of any kind but on the other hand i'm increasingly drawn to gay as fuq trashion. i've been wearing the same black nasty pig jeans tucked into my black cowboy boots for weeks now. i've had two strangers ask me "where are you from?" out of the blue in the past month lol.

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:45 (one month ago) link

oh and a big-ass black carhartt fleece-lined twill jacket (gold zipper). people call me sir a lot and i roll my eyes haha

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:51 (one month ago) link

um that sounds like GREAT look

marcos, Friday, 8 November 2019 10:46 (one month ago) link

omg someone just posted this on fb. Maybe my advice was bad. Ha! ( I think the soles are super grippy!)

https://thehardtimes.net/culture/local-punk-spends-10th-winter-failing-realize-doc-martens-not-winter-boots/

Yerac, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 01:34 (three weeks ago) link

Blundstone's chelsea boots are great in bad weather, and very comfortable for urban walking.

fetter, Friday, 22 November 2019 16:02 (two weeks ago) link

Enjoyed this Elvis Mitchell interview with Todd Snyder, and then looked at his website and really want half the sweaters on there.

https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/the-treatment/todd-snyder

... (Eazy), Saturday, 30 November 2019 02:02 (one week ago) link

big todd snyder fan here. very cool sweaters and sweatshirts, and i think their jeans and chinos are fantastic.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 30 November 2019 02:56 (one week ago) link


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