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idk, do we have one of these? i've been trying to up my style game recently and thought it might be good to have a thread to post stuff i like, get the occasional opinion, etc. open to all, anything from business dress to casual etc.etc. maybe i should just get a pinterest or something.

*i'd like this thread to be about actual clothes ppl are wearing or considering wearing, there's an ile thread if you want to talk about the menswear blogosphere or make fun of stuff.

anyway, i don't have much occasion to wear ties, but i saw this on sale and became sort of obsessed with it so just placed the order. i want to wear it at thanksgiving or christmas:

http://www.drakes-london.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/517x579/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/9/a9wb.55065.001_m.jpg

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 03:54 (five years ago) Permalink

i like this etsy seller's ties:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5912974/il_570xN.279574838.jpg

just1n3, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 05:05 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost wear it to an iggles game idk :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 05:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I guess I need to wear a tie to my job interviews next week but just realised I only have wedding/party ties.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 11:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I need a fashion upgrade, I just feel like a schlub with most of my biz cas at work. I've always just gotten dockers to wear to work, because they're cheap and I've had trouble staying the same pants size over the course of my adult life. I never wanted to drop the coin on nicer pants because I knew in 6 months I would not fit in them. Plus I wear those dockers the fuck out. They are frazzled around the legs and the waist, all of them. Since I've been able to basically stay the same weight for the last year and a half now, I think it may be time to consider something better.

As for shirts, I have about 14 of the same kind of shirt, just in different colors/patterns. They are fine, but again, I've worn them the fuck out. Also, I have a bunch of mediums that don't fit as well as the few smalls that I have. I always buy them on sale, so it's hard to stumble upon the correct size, and I always seem to get heavily patterned ones, nothing basic.

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

Don't even get me started on my shoes.

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Bottom of my shoes currently. el oh el

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5486/9458816502_677037dd49.jpg

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:17 (five years ago) Permalink

I started wearing Dockers this year because I had problems splitting the seat of all the mid-range, Macy's-bought wool dress pants (Nautica, Calvin Klein, etc.) I had been wearing. It was a choice between spending all this damn money getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time or buying a new pair of pants for $35 a couple times a year. I'm pretty happy with the Dockers, but yeah, one of them has the makings of a hole in the knee already because my legs don't fit into the seats on my commuter bus.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:21 (five years ago) Permalink

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, I sprung $150 for a pair of Ecco's a few years ago. They're comfortable, but they emit a horrible squeak when I walk across polished floors. Since I won't be able to afford another $150 to drop on shoes in the near future, fuck it, I'm just going to squeak everywhere I go.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

this is interesting. the guys who started it have a decent rep for their suits, i think. i don't like that you sign up for the service without ever trying a shirt--i think they should send you one to start sizing and let you assess the quality (if you've only been wearing s/m/l, go to a tailor or nice clothing store and get measured for your shirt size!). also it is all or nothing--you keep the three shirts or return them all. i assume that means they're going with pretty safe fabrics, colors, and patterns--fine if you're not picky.

getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

agreed. i had a longstanding no s/m/l shirts policy that i recently broke for some cheap j. crew casual button up shirts for summer. they fit great through my torso and had enormous sleeves (which was not a problem since i only wore them with the sleeves cuffed).

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:08 (five years ago) Permalink

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

Not enough for them to actually be clean or unwrinkled most of the time.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:16 (five years ago) Permalink

It may just be the quality I was buying, but every shirt that I've got based on neck size has been voluminous everywhere else.

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:31 (five years ago) Permalink

u need slim fit

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:31 (five years ago) Permalink

yep

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:34 (five years ago) Permalink

buying fitted shirts changed my life

click here to start exploding (ledge), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Is there a medium fit? I need to find something between wearing a balloon with a collar and wearing a corset.

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Try different brands I guess? Some give chest/sleeve measurements as well as collar size.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Maybe I just need a thinner neck!!

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:39 (five years ago) Permalink

if you want to be super anal you can get a measuring tape and take some basic measurements on the best-fitting shirt you have to compare to web sizing info (or be even crazier and bring your measuring tape to the store too). i've taken to doing this with things like leg openings on pants.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:05 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't think that is super anal, i think that is just good sense. shopping online without knowing your preferred measurements is a complete crapshoot

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:09 (five years ago) Permalink

SUPER anal is keeping your measurements in an evernote doc so you always have them available on your phone, not that i know anyone who does that

max, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:16 (five years ago) Permalink

i bought a custom shirt from these dudes http://www.blacklapel.com have not recieved yet, will report back

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:42 (five years ago) Permalink

the thing abt all the custom clothes sites is none of them really have the best style but we will see i feel like they should be able to handle a white dress shirt, itd b rad to be able to get some cool ass costom suits of the nets or w/e tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:43 (five years ago) Permalink

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:47 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah there are tons. do let us know about your experience w/blacklapel, jho.

i got a shirt made for my wedding at a mtm shirt tailor in boston (they basically follow the web model in that the sewing is done in hong kong, but someone measures you irl) and i was a little disappointed that the resulting shirt still had tons of billowing in the back when i tucked it in. kind of soured me on the cheap-ish mtm concept. i just bought an off the rack shirt from these guys - http://www.ledbury.com that fit me perfectly through the torso (which is kind of a big deal because i'm not a small guy and really don't need any fabric pooling near my waist).

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:55 (five years ago) Permalink

got stuff from barneys warehouse dot com yesterday

this rag n bone unit

http://i.imgur.com/7QIMZdO.jpg

couple ties

http://i.imgur.com/jkO82ci.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ePZvwoP.jpg

a shirt

http://i.imgur.com/VzYvCYh.jpg

and these apcs

http://i.imgur.com/ZzP95cc.jpg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 11:47 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya its a p amazing concept imho they keep yr measurements and then you can just order whenever, we will see re the exicuction

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:07 (five years ago) Permalink

my menswear story is I have moths in my closet

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

bummer central

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

put some moth balls int here

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

lol

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I've been wearing short shorts lately the prostitutes outside call me "legs"

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

ha!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

i love that jacket, jho

horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

agree & the liberty tie is p sweet too

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:08 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol when u can get apcs for $80 maybe people just arent ready yet

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

tho tbh i think its already happened, im always here for you tho if you need to talk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

thanking you all xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:11 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah that's a sweet haul though I share elmo's suspicion of the chillwavey jeans

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:11 (five years ago) Permalink

theyre so luscious im just gonna luxuriate in them shits

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:13 (five years ago) Permalink

haha nah it's cool, i just don't think i'll be climbing into any dad jeans soon

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:15 (five years ago) Permalink

feel like dad jeans are more abt the cut, tho obvs the color factors in too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

i love the truly insane things in barney's warehouse like this coat.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah they carry a p funny mix of stuff

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:17 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/OqmFsIi.jpg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:19 (five years ago) Permalink

it's kind of sad to see things like that coat consigned to an outlet, like, i'm sure its designer was so proud of it

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

ok wtf is that

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

that shit is glorious

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/2WfRI7S.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:22 (five years ago) Permalink

repairing more expensive shoes is not going to work out cheaper.

if you object to the waste or want nicer shoes then it's a good plan.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:52 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, IME it's kind of a wash in the long run to keep buying new cheaper shoes when they wear out vs resoling/taking care of more expensive shoes. But in the latter case you get nicer shoes.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:58 (one week ago) Permalink

And you don’t throw so many shoes in the garbage

chinavision!, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Honestly I’ve had tons of luck buying secondhand on eBay. AE, brooks brothers, Alden, and I’ve never spent for than $80.

chinavision!, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:35 (one week ago) Permalink

*more

chinavision!, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:35 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, IME it's kind of a wash in the long run to keep buying new cheaper shoes when they wear out vs resoling/taking care of more expensive shoes. But in the latter case you get nicer shoes.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, February 6, 2019 5:58 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You can still buy the less expensive shoes and then have them protected at the cobbler and get more wear out of them! Unless the upper is cracking or falling apart--that I can't help. But if the sole and/or heel are the point of most wear, a cobbler is your answer.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:44 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess if the uppers are cracking you might be able to give them longer life by wiping/brushing down and using shoe trees?

chinavision!, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 20:02 (one week ago) Permalink

you can, but IME the uppers on cheap shoes wear out too bc either the seams start to go or the leather is just not good and starts to look ugly beyond what polish can fix

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 20:05 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, IME it's kind of a wash in the long run to keep buying new cheaper shoes when they wear out vs resoling/taking care of more expensive shoes. But in the latter case you get nicer shoes.

Totally. I accept my boot habit is about having nice boots, not saving money in the long run. Resoling costs do almost vanish if you commit for a few years and accumulate several pairs to rotate, but to be real you're deep in at that point and you're more than likely planning a visit to the Northampton factory shops. Another visit to the Northampton factory shops.

Generally agree with all the above - got some great 2nd-hand things for <£100 on eBay - Trickers, Crockett & Jones. Main washout was because my creasing on the vamp mashed into the previous owner's creasing and they ended up looking just fucked up rather than lived in.

And yup get rubber on the soles and heels (once tried metal where my heels wear. Sounded like I was tap dancing whenever I was off carpet). But shoddy shoes used to split at the welt near the ball of the foot for me. Harder to fix.

woof, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 20:11 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess if the uppers are cracking you might be able to give them longer life by wiping/brushing down and using shoe trees?

― chinavision!, Wednesday, February 6, 2019 8:02 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This. I started my new shoe life last year by buying a couple pairs to rotate every other day as well as using shoe trees and horns. I did this specifically because I bought fancier $200+ shoes and didn't want to risk fucking them up, but I imagine that the same treatment might work out alright for cheaper shoes too. I had just never thought of it back then.

peace, man, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 20:25 (one week ago) Permalink

I condition all my leather shoes and bags like quarterly even if I don't wear them.

Yerac, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 20:29 (one week ago) Permalink

also re: Chelseas. Lovely when done well, but they aren't for me. I'm broad/stocky and not quite made to pull off that skinny/pointy thing they suit when done sharply. tbh they feel a bit Jeremy Clarkson/Cameron-on-the-weekend if you get them even slightly wrong.

woof, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 20:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh I definitely agree that better shoes and better leather will last longer. Corrected grain just isn’t made to last but I’m just thinking of what could extend the life of any shoes.

chinavision!, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 21:07 (one week ago) Permalink

Try not going anywhere

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 23:59 (one week ago) Permalink

what are the best northampton shoe shops?

ogmor, Thursday, 7 February 2019 08:46 (one week ago) Permalink

I've only been once - got a pair of grain leather chukkas (brecons) from the Crockett and Jones shop for about half-price. Love them. aiui it's a bit of a lottery since it depends on what seconds have come through, but the selection was p good at C&J when I went. I'd probably look at Church's and Tricker's too if I went back. If I could get out to Desborough I'd like to visit the Cheaney shop.

woof, Thursday, 7 February 2019 11:46 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm in Northampton a fair bit so I should investigate

ogmor, Thursday, 7 February 2019 12:08 (one week ago) Permalink

This site's messy, but has most of the basic info:
https://northamptonshoes.com
Often some recent-ish reports from the shops on menswear forums, but that does mean you have to visit menswear forums.

woof, Thursday, 7 February 2019 12:57 (one week ago) Permalink

Bowties C or D.

A former girlfriend once described my style as "drunk English professor" and my reaction was "eh. I can live with that."

I have a few self-tie (that is, non-pre-tied) bowties dating back to the 80s/90s. Kinda prided myself on knowing how to tie them and on keeping a dying art alive.

Then I put them away for a long time because they seemed too twee even for me. I am not a 60-year-old lawyer in Charleston. Around the same time I ditched all the Festive Novelty Ties. I am also not a 24-year-old sales guy. I embraced quiet dignity, then telework (where some days I wore the same t-shirt I slept in).

Then for some reason I started wearing bowties again. Maybe once or twice a year? People freak the fuck OUT. All the women in the office are like "ooooh, look at you, all dapper!"

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 February 2019 13:33 (one week ago) Permalink

About a year ago, we went through a phase at the office where three out of the 6 men on staff were wearing bowties on a daily basis. I bought some ties and spent a lot of time practicing how to tie them, but it wasn't easy because all of the mirrors in my house are too short for me. I actually got one tied perfectly once and then gave up. I'd like to give it another try sometime before spring rolls around though.

peace, man, Thursday, 7 February 2019 13:43 (one week ago) Permalink

bowties never imo. Everyone who tries to wear them in the spirit of "let's make bowties cool" still winds up looking like a bowtie guy, because there have been generations of bowtie guys who think "let's make bowties cool."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Bowties feel like those someone on Twitter whose bio is "Wordsmith. Flaneur. Lover of gin. Father."

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:33 (one week ago) Permalink

Like those someone

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:33 (one week ago) Permalink

I have one friend from law school who just goes all out with the bowtie guy thing and makes it work, but he is a Waspy guy with a long waspy name and a hairline halfway back on his head who fixes himself and his wife cocktails and enjoys gilbert and sullivan. He is just sincerely and wholesomely all the way that guy.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Like he is self-aware about it, but it's him.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Bowties are dumb as fuck

Blandford Forum, Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:38 (one week ago) Permalink

I mean, so are ties in general.

peace, man, Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:46 (one week ago) Permalink

It's just the Man's leash around your neck

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 15:49 (one week ago) Permalink

which is why i wear clip-on's

calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:02 (one week ago) Permalink

no bowtie boyz otm

i mean if you can make a bowtie work, hats off to u because i’ve never seen a bowtie work

the late great, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:05 (one week ago) Permalink

"Wordsmith. Flaneur. Lover of gin. Father."

yes. and he’s matching the bowtie w a plaid shirt, suspenders, skinny raw denim and red wing boots

the late great, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:07 (one week ago) Permalink

he has a waxed moustache

the late great, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:07 (one week ago) Permalink

My former boss when I worked in a university library was a total anglophile who had sabbaticalled at Oxford, was a rare books expert and history PhD candidate, brought his own personal vintage teacup to the Starbucks in the student union for water refills (he had his own tea, of course), and once came to a party with his own vintage crystal cocktail glass in a special carrying case. He always wore a bowtie and honestly I think it would have been wrong if he hadn't.

joygoat, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:09 (one week ago) Permalink

I like bowties. But as with everything not in the norm, it depends on the guy making it work. My old boss started wearing them, and they were super modern proportions. He was also insanely hot.

Yerac, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:12 (one week ago) Permalink

So i ordered my spouse a bunch of shirts (button downs, short sleeves) from amazon (booooooo) prime wardrobe to try on. Got all amazon essentials and their good threads line. Pretty satisfied with the quality of fabric and cut. Keeping 6 out of the 8. Oddly, their tall fit in was too long for him. He's 6'3" and slender build.

Yerac, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:18 (one week ago) Permalink

yes. and he’s matching the bowtie w a plaid shirt, suspenders, skinny raw denim and red wing boots

the baudelaire essays about being a flaneur are all actually p good and interesting which make the word's endpoint as this guy all the more disappointing.

xpost

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:18 (one week ago) Permalink

I wear bow ties sometimes and feel fine. They’re just another tie. Don’t wear shitty, shiny, or pre-tied ones.

chinavision!, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:24 (one week ago) Permalink

i don't think bowties as a category are bad, but like a lot of marginal menswear things you need to know what the fuck you're doing.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:29 (one week ago) Permalink

to be all the way out on bowties would be a tacit approval of neckties with formalwear which is way the hell worse

call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:30 (one week ago) Permalink

but this is where our flaneur wears a necktie!

calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:34 (one week ago) Permalink

GIS "hip bowtie guy" and every single person looks like an asshole except the ones that are inexorably handsome

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:48 (one week ago) Permalink

i've had to wear both bowties and ties in previous servicey jobs. I liked bowties more because ties got dirtier and were harder to keep out of the way if you are only wearing a button down.

Yerac, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:56 (one week ago) Permalink

xp i'm not sure what that's supposed to indicate?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:59 (one week ago) Permalink

i never wear formal stuff in my daily life but i really enjoy wearing a suit for a wedding or whatever and have about two/three ties i like.

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah ties are great. Only wear them at weddings and v occasional work things so they still feel somewhat special, and the right tie can look really good. Bowties are quite upsetting to see in any context.

Blandford Forum, Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:39 (one week ago) Permalink

For me, ties are fun. They're not required in my workplace, but they aren't frowned upon. (Lots of men in my department go tieless unless they have an important meeting.)

That means my tie choice is an act of almost complete autonomy. It's a moment in my day that is purely about me. I can be governed by whim or whimsy or mood, by convention, or anything in between.

A good tie choice can harmonize the other elements in one's ensemble. Or contrast from them in an interesting way. A lot of the time I use a tie as a diplomat; a Switzerland that can mediate between other garments.

For example, I am wearing slate-blue chinos and a charcoal sportcoat right now, with a white button-down shirt. My tie is sky-blue and white stripes on a dove-grey field. It ties the other things together like Lebowski's rug.

Ymmv, of course. If that's not your thing it isn't your thing. But personally I don't find ties a hardship or a noose. I regard them as a daily opportunity for creativity and private fun.

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:35 (one week ago) Permalink

I actually like ties as well, and also I have to wear them for work on occasion. I recently somewhat indulgently bought a Ferragamo tie with a print of a leopard lounging in a tree, it's pretty tight.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:07 (one week ago) Permalink

my issue with ties is that i don't find them comfortable. at a wedding or funeral i inevitably am tieless once the ceremony is over and I'm at the bar.

however there is no dress code in my office and i just dress like a normcore manbaby

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:14 (one week ago) Permalink

It's your life and your neck, of course. But in my experience? If a tie is uncomfortable it's because your shirt is the wrong size.

Usually, people don't mind shoes that fit closely. Or socks. Or the waistbands of your underwear and pants. People wear watches and jewelry that fit closely to the relevant body parts all the time, but mostly you only hear OMG THIS GARMENT IS STRANGLING ME WITH THE OPPRESSION OF THE MAN about collars and neckties. It's weird cherry picking imo.

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:39 (one week ago) Permalink

i never wear watches or jewelry either to be fair because i find them even more uncomfortable (i was married for 5 years and never wore a ring)

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:45 (one week ago) Permalink


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