ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

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idk, do we have one of these? i've been trying to up my style game recently and thought it might be good to have a thread to post stuff i like, get the occasional opinion, etc. open to all, anything from business dress to casual etc.etc. maybe i should just get a pinterest or something.

*i'd like this thread to be about actual clothes ppl are wearing or considering wearing, there's an ile thread if you want to talk about the menswear blogosphere or make fun of stuff.

anyway, i don't have much occasion to wear ties, but i saw this on sale and became sort of obsessed with it so just placed the order. i want to wear it at thanksgiving or christmas:

http://www.drakes-london.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/517x579/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/9/a9wb.55065.001_m.jpg

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 03:54 (six years ago) link

i like this etsy seller's ties:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5912974/il_570xN.279574838.jpg

just1n3, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 05:05 (six years ago) link

xpost wear it to an iggles game idk :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 05:29 (six years ago) link

I guess I need to wear a tie to my job interviews next week but just realised I only have wedding/party ties.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 11:46 (six years ago) link

I need a fashion upgrade, I just feel like a schlub with most of my biz cas at work. I've always just gotten dockers to wear to work, because they're cheap and I've had trouble staying the same pants size over the course of my adult life. I never wanted to drop the coin on nicer pants because I knew in 6 months I would not fit in them. Plus I wear those dockers the fuck out. They are frazzled around the legs and the waist, all of them. Since I've been able to basically stay the same weight for the last year and a half now, I think it may be time to consider something better.

As for shirts, I have about 14 of the same kind of shirt, just in different colors/patterns. They are fine, but again, I've worn them the fuck out. Also, I have a bunch of mediums that don't fit as well as the few smalls that I have. I always buy them on sale, so it's hard to stumble upon the correct size, and I always seem to get heavily patterned ones, nothing basic.

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

Don't even get me started on my shoes.

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:11 (six years ago) link

Bottom of my shoes currently. el oh el

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5486/9458816502_677037dd49.jpg

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:17 (six years ago) link

I started wearing Dockers this year because I had problems splitting the seat of all the mid-range, Macy's-bought wool dress pants (Nautica, Calvin Klein, etc.) I had been wearing. It was a choice between spending all this damn money getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time or buying a new pair of pants for $35 a couple times a year. I'm pretty happy with the Dockers, but yeah, one of them has the makings of a hole in the knee already because my legs don't fit into the seats on my commuter bus.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:21 (six years ago) link

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:25 (six years ago) link

Also, I sprung $150 for a pair of Ecco's a few years ago. They're comfortable, but they emit a horrible squeak when I walk across polished floors. Since I won't be able to afford another $150 to drop on shoes in the near future, fuck it, I'm just going to squeak everywhere I go.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:29 (six years ago) link

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

this is interesting. the guys who started it have a decent rep for their suits, i think. i don't like that you sign up for the service without ever trying a shirt--i think they should send you one to start sizing and let you assess the quality (if you've only been wearing s/m/l, go to a tailor or nice clothing store and get measured for your shirt size!). also it is all or nothing--you keep the three shirts or return them all. i assume that means they're going with pretty safe fabrics, colors, and patterns--fine if you're not picky.

getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

agreed. i had a longstanding no s/m/l shirts policy that i recently broke for some cheap j. crew casual button up shirts for summer. they fit great through my torso and had enormous sleeves (which was not a problem since i only wore them with the sleeves cuffed).

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:08 (six years ago) link

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

Not enough for them to actually be clean or unwrinkled most of the time.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:16 (six years ago) link

It may just be the quality I was buying, but every shirt that I've got based on neck size has been voluminous everywhere else.

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:31 (six years ago) link

u need slim fit

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:31 (six years ago) link

yep

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:34 (six years ago) link

buying fitted shirts changed my life

click here to start exploding (ledge), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:34 (six years ago) link

Is there a medium fit? I need to find something between wearing a balloon with a collar and wearing a corset.

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:35 (six years ago) link

Try different brands I guess? Some give chest/sleeve measurements as well as collar size.

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:38 (six years ago) link

Maybe I just need a thinner neck!!

Jeff, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 13:39 (six years ago) link

if you want to be super anal you can get a measuring tape and take some basic measurements on the best-fitting shirt you have to compare to web sizing info (or be even crazier and bring your measuring tape to the store too). i've taken to doing this with things like leg openings on pants.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:05 (six years ago) link

i don't think that is super anal, i think that is just good sense. shopping online without knowing your preferred measurements is a complete crapshoot

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:09 (six years ago) link

SUPER anal is keeping your measurements in an evernote doc so you always have them available on your phone, not that i know anyone who does that

max, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:16 (six years ago) link

i bought a custom shirt from these dudes http://www.blacklapel.com have not recieved yet, will report back

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:42 (six years ago) link

the thing abt all the custom clothes sites is none of them really have the best style but we will see i feel like they should be able to handle a white dress shirt, itd b rad to be able to get some cool ass costom suits of the nets or w/e tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:43 (six years ago) link

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:47 (six years ago) link

yeah there are tons. do let us know about your experience w/blacklapel, jho.

i got a shirt made for my wedding at a mtm shirt tailor in boston (they basically follow the web model in that the sewing is done in hong kong, but someone measures you irl) and i was a little disappointed that the resulting shirt still had tons of billowing in the back when i tucked it in. kind of soured me on the cheap-ish mtm concept. i just bought an off the rack shirt from these guys - http://www.ledbury.com that fit me perfectly through the torso (which is kind of a big deal because i'm not a small guy and really don't need any fabric pooling near my waist).

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 15:55 (six years ago) link

got stuff from barneys warehouse dot com yesterday

this rag n bone unit

http://i.imgur.com/7QIMZdO.jpg

couple ties

http://i.imgur.com/jkO82ci.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ePZvwoP.jpg

a shirt

http://i.imgur.com/VzYvCYh.jpg

and these apcs

http://i.imgur.com/ZzP95cc.jpg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:06 (six years ago) link

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 11:47 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya its a p amazing concept imho they keep yr measurements and then you can just order whenever, we will see re the exicuction

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:07 (six years ago) link

my menswear story is I have moths in my closet

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

bummer central

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

put some moth balls int here

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:08 (six years ago) link

I've been wearing short shorts lately the prostitutes outside call me "legs"

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:09 (six years ago) link

ha!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:09 (six years ago) link

i love that jacket, jho

horseshoe, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:09 (six years ago) link

agree & the liberty tie is p sweet too

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:10 (six years ago) link

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:08 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol when u can get apcs for $80 maybe people just arent ready yet

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:10 (six years ago) link

tho tbh i think its already happened, im always here for you tho if you need to talk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:10 (six years ago) link

thanking you all xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:11 (six years ago) link

yeah that's a sweet haul though I share elmo's suspicion of the chillwavey jeans

Please review your choices carefully. (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:11 (six years ago) link

theyre so luscious im just gonna luxuriate in them shits

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:13 (six years ago) link

haha nah it's cool, i just don't think i'll be climbing into any dad jeans soon

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:15 (six years ago) link

feel like dad jeans are more abt the cut, tho obvs the color factors in too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:16 (six years ago) link

i love the truly insane things in barney's warehouse like this coat.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:16 (six years ago) link

yeah they carry a p funny mix of stuff

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:17 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/OqmFsIi.jpg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:19 (six years ago) link

it's kind of sad to see things like that coat consigned to an outlet, like, i'm sure its designer was so proud of it

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:20 (six years ago) link

ok wtf is that

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:20 (six years ago) link

that shit is glorious

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:21 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/2WfRI7S.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:22 (six years ago) link

wait now i'm thinking that unleashing my inner hippie raver is a really good idea actually

cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:07 (three months ago) link

occasionally when i lived in boulder id see someone who was so deep in that culture that they looked amazing

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:12 (three months ago) link

The fact that so many dudes are wearing sweatpants in public now makes me want to die. It's not a good look ever an only acceptable if you're actually doing exercise or something. Also, I've seen more unwelcome peen in the past few months from guys wearing sweatpants than I have in years. Nope.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:38 (three months ago) link

looks good on young african americans ime, bad on everyone else

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:56 (three months ago) link

i haven't really noticed a lot of sweatpant bulge

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:04 (three months ago) link

Relatedly, as someone who only ever wears sweats to work out I hate how all sweats seem to be that jogger shape now. I have big legs so they look funny on me. And also I do not like giving others unwelcome peen outline in the gym.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:23 (three months ago) link

Yeah, I see a lot of peen in sweatpants. I don't think guys understand support undergarments in certain situations.

Yerac, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:27 (three months ago) link

And as google tells me, this is indeed a thing, a challenge, a hashtag. The sweatpantsbulge.

Yerac, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:31 (three months ago) link

The kinds of supporting boxer briefs that are best for working out imo only accentuate the bulge.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:33 (three months ago) link

Yeah when enbb mentioned it above I was thinking of all the loose dicks I see flapping about in sweatpants but the pics online I see it's a different arrangement.

Yerac, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:34 (three months ago) link

Sweats are comfortable.

I mainly wear jeans but I like those trousers that are essentially slacks and don't have the cuff at the end but still have a drawstring or elastic waist. Seems a good innovation, not least since it's unusual for the waist of the trouser to be visible anyway.

FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:10 (three months ago) link

Yeah when enbb mentioned it above I was thinking of all the loose dicks I see flapping about in sweatpants but the pics online I see it's a different arrangement.

― Yerac, Wednesday, May 1, 2019 11:34 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is going on the striking imagery thread

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:13 (three months ago) link

i actually wear three legged sweatpants one leg is for my dick

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:14 (three months ago) link

i'm going to go out on a limb here and admit that i have never knowingly seen a pair of "drawstring slacks"

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:19 (three months ago) link

i don't want to see them

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:29 (three months ago) link

i haven't worn sweatpants as an adult but am always tempted to go back to my west of scotland roots and get a nice vintage kappa or sergio tacchini number off of eBay

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:30 (three months ago) link

i skulk around in my gym clothes sometimes

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:44 (three months ago) link

My bf keeps threatening to find us matching Sergio Tacchini warm ups so we look like Russian mobsters apparently. Looking at their website now--I don't hate them, I can say that much.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:47 (three months ago) link

But I think he meant the slick shiny 80s ones with like diagonal color blocking.

http://img0015o.psstatic.com/128161138_vintage-sergio-tacchini-1980s-tennis-windbreaker-size-44.jpg

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:52 (three months ago) link

shit's gettin ivan lendl up in here

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:55 (three months ago) link

dope

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:01 (three months ago) link

sweatpants are at least upfront about the level of effort the wearer is putting in. i’ll take that over the countless number of cheap-looking jeans and khakis that fit horribly and are three inches too long.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:01 (three months ago) link

I am into that aesthetic as a couple, xpost inorbit.

Yerac, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:13 (three months ago) link

Yes I support this couple outfit idea. Yerac - yes the clapping is exactly what I mean. It’s not right.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:21 (three months ago) link

I sometimes regret not buying this from a thift store, but there's no way I'd ever actually wear it:
https://i.imgur.com/NYH99Qi.jpg

joygoat, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:26 (three months ago) link

nice. i bought a black, teal, and purple one for a party but haven't worn it since. probably should take it to a thrift store so the cycle can start again.

circles, Thursday, 2 May 2019 03:19 (three months ago) link

sweats are only ever appropriate in public either going to or from the gym imo

I hate how all sweats seem to be that jogger shape now.

same. i had to scour ebay for a pre-jogger pair of nike sweatpants to replace the ones that were dying

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 May 2019 04:26 (three months ago) link

also annoyed that champion is in style right now cuz now i can't find the nice reverse weave sweats for cheap at nordstrom rack anymore

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 May 2019 04:28 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

im super into washing and bleaching and fabric softening my clothes, the soft faded life

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:45 (two months ago) link

i turned a pair of flat gray bad color jeans into a nice natural light khaki using bleach :]

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:46 (two months ago) link

theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKY6TZEyrI

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:48 (two months ago) link

My assortment of dashingly minimalist one-shoulder bags are starting to give me back pain. Is it Jansport time?

mick signals, Monday, 10 June 2019 15:48 (two months ago) link

I had this cheapo black hanes t-shirt where I had spilled bleach right about in the spot where a t-shirt pocket would go, and it made a somewhat cool-looking, orange-whiteish splotch, so I used to wear it out -- people sometimes asked me if it was a designer t-shirt.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 10 June 2019 15:59 (two months ago) link

I've thought about getting some more of those and just experimenting with bleach spills.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 10 June 2019 15:59 (two months ago) link

i'm giving thought to a tote/backpack cross because i have become a scooter wanker in los angeles, and scooting while carrying a toat a tote is suicidal.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:07 (two months ago) link

just put the tote straps around your shoulders like it's a backpack boom you're welcome

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:10 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

i like peter and ian's looks in joy division, but it turns out every single picture of joy division is black and white: https://i.imgur.com/eECkPt8.jpg

can some britishers suggest some shirt and pant color combos that some blokes might've worn around that time?

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:41 (four weeks ago) link

there are some colour photographs, though they are in the minority. generally seems to be quite muted colors:

the big coats are grey or navy,
grey, navy or black pants. black dress shoes.
shirts are bit more varied, there's pictures of ian curtis in red, orange, and yellow shirts. as well as pale blue and olive and white. don't think I've ever seen hooky in anything that colorful in joy division days (maybe pale blue shirt on the more colorful side)

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:50 (four weeks ago) link

oh yeah maybe olive pants as well. bit of military look sometimes, especially ian

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:51 (four weeks ago) link

here's some evidence

joy division on so it goes 1978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL5EuxBn6Ow

joy division on so it goes in 1979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCVHAjTBb1U

ian in red (hooky in ? but nothing too colourful)
https://www.last.fm/music/Joy+Division/+images/f43b77f2b0ce4e7bce5640c5e8d6b3ce

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:54 (four weeks ago) link

awesome!

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:57 (four weeks ago) link

when I try to load all messages I get a "deceptive site ahead" notice

anyway, don't know if Unionmade at 18th and Sanchez in SF has been mentioned, but it's my favorite men's clothing store maybe ever

Dan S, Thursday, 8 August 2019 06:03 (two weeks ago) link

I'm completely stuck at the moment. beginning to hit middle age, boring professional etc, so past the place where i can carry off yoof, and really dislike standard english standard male wear. need to spend at a price point below a lot of the 'well-dressed man', and also I find them tending either to dullness, pomposity or that fuckin sprezzatura world.

the items i've bought from old town i like both in terms of quality and look, but i don't always want to look like i'm tending a fishing smack off the Suffolk coast in the '40s.

i *need* instagram accounts for some *looks*, some online recommendations and for any of you london based, shopping recommendations. feel since LG left and woof posts less frequently i've lost bearings a bit.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 August 2019 07:02 (yesterday) link

not at all averse to buying from abroad either tbh, and i've looked somewhat longingly at some japanese stores, though the fucking state of the pound at the moment makes buying hessian sack a mortgageable enterprise.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 August 2019 07:03 (yesterday) link

hello!

I'm maybe a little stuck myself atm. I realised I have had exactly 2 looks for the last 30 years - look 1: academic manqué; look 2: 1989 Mudhoney audience member. I just bounce between them, creating an ever more expensive version of each as my income rises.

But yes the state of the pound makes me very very angsty about buying from overseas, which is unfortunate because the two things I am enjoying at the moment are m2m shirts from Proper Cloth (ie look 1 - got a lovely Madras and a v simple blue Oxford from them) and Japanese heavy flannel (ie look 2 - ordered this direct from UES).

woof, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:22 (yesterday) link

fwiw I think proper cloth still works out pretty well, given the range of shirtings, degree of customisation, and control over fit. But it's def best-shirts rather than everyday-shirts.

woof, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:25 (yesterday) link

hello!

waiting for the day when professional media workwear forms a perfect ven with 1989 Mudhoney-just-behind-the-moshpit fan. Basically i need to up my 'best shirts' quotient a bit so the Proper Cloth option is good. AndI need a bit of non-shirt top options, including jumper options, tho i think that's easier. Mind you, terrible state of crewnecks and indeed v-necks in the world sometimes, sloppy necks or blousy hang.

going to go back to japanese websites for other top options, and stop looking at coats are basically a $1000 *look* for red letter days, and not sustainable daily wear.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 August 2019 10:48 (yesterday) link

Spaces I think about moving into:

* Agèd semi-mod who only buys from American Classics and John Simons and stands in the shop chatting all day. Large cap.
* Drunk in a suit with no tie, in a suit all the time even though it's not right for his work or social situations. Thinks he's in the Bad Seeds, actually just sweaty and awkward. Feel like this is basically an alcoholic look, and sadly I've got my drinking under control.
* Something austere and Japanese. Don't really have the vocab to capture this.

woof, Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:37 (yesterday) link

I'm older and into minimal, slightly technical stuff made by Outlier, Mission Workshop, occasionally Uniqlo, the Sea to Sky collection released a few years ago from Reigning Champ. I'm not talking Neuromancer-wannabe stuff or anything. I just don't like branding and I like a little function along with form. Solid colors, usually shades of gray, black, and muted colors. Anybody else into this stuff and have any suggestions? I'm specifically looking for a new jacket appropriate for like 30-40 F and button-up shirts that have a boxy or even slightly flared out fit (like a Japanese work shirt) but not big tents meant to hide bellies.

beard papa, Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:45 (yesterday) link


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