Tears for Fears: The Hurting poll

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Now I hope "The Hurting" is next up?

― Geir Hongro, Monday, August 18, 2008

So nine months later and because this: TEARS FOR FEARS - SONGS FROM THE BIG CHAIR (1985) POLL was bumped yesterday, we have this poll. By far, Tears for Fears best album:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41df1TtYnIL._SS500_.jpg

Poll Results

OptionVotes
3. Pale Shelter 12
2. Mad World 4
5. Memories Fade 4
8. Change 3
1. The Hurting 1
7. Watch Me Bleed 1
10. Start of the Breakdown 1
4. Ideas as Opiates 0
9. The Prisoner 0
6. Suffer the Children 0


Bee OK, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 02:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

what a great album, probably the first time i ever really fell in love with an album.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 02:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

I agree, this is a great album. I voted for Change.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 02:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Pale Shelter," which "Change" right behind it.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 02:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

whoops, WITH "Change" right behind it.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 02:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

i should get this album. i think it was the horrific cover of "mad world" from donnie darko that fucked up my perception of how awesome this could be.

QE II, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 03:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

The title track is so fucking incredible.

test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 03:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 May 2009 00:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 May 2009 00:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 May 2009 00:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think it was the horrific cover of "mad world" from donnie darko

I'm so glad someone else feels this way. I hated that movie, too.

More Goth Than Your Grandmother (Bimble), Thursday, 14 May 2009 00:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

obviously an incredible album, I think I will vote for Memories Fade

akm, Thursday, 14 May 2009 00:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

The videos for "Change" and "Pale Shelter" do the songs in question incalculable damage in their indefensible silliness, but both tracks remain untouchably great.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 14 May 2009 12:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

So, Will the "Graduate" album be up next?

Mark G, Thursday, 14 May 2009 12:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Memories Fade". Love the title track and "Change" too.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 14 May 2009 12:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

Interesting. I had never listened to this album before this morning (though I had heard "Change" literally once, decades ago, on some MTV Knebworth broadcast). You can almost tell exactly what the band was going for/listening to at the time, which is pretty fascinating. I don't know if it's my greater familiarity with the next album that makes this sound like an (excellent and nearly fully-formed) dry run for "Big Chair," but I'm really liking it all the same.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

someone post the original cover please

meisenfek, Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

That is the original cover. The band shot was the US release

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 14 May 2009 17:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

You're thinking of this...

http://www.scottastevenson.com/images/tearsforfears1983lp.jpg

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 14 May 2009 17:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah, i agree maybe i shouldn't have posted those videos. still a wonderful album!

VOTE, if you know these songs.

Bee OK, Friday, 15 May 2009 04:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

Definitely "Mad World". Surprisingly, I liked the acoustic version at the end of DD, and I pretty much HATE ALL acoustic covers, but on this one it helped they left the melody and the CHORDS intact.

touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Friday, 15 May 2009 09:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

...sorry for the caps.

touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Friday, 15 May 2009 09:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

The acoustic version at the v end made me think, 'Damn, he just took each line of this song and made it into the movie...sheesh.' It made the whole movie seem like this really bad story someone shared in a creative writing class I took that was based on a Savage Garden song...just a sad, sad way to write a movie. OTOH if that is what he did, he picked a good song to work with.

test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also that pissed me off bcz I got made fun of a lot for listening to Tears for Fears, which was considered very square. Then AFTER Donald Darko came out, everyone was like, 'Man, have you heard this band Tears for Fears? They're really good!" Ach strangle strangle. I was working in a music store and it got to be where if a kid with bad posture and a tight hoodie w/the hood over his head so he looked like the Emperor came up to the counter (I was at a 'finding things' counter in the middle of the store) he wld be asking if I'd heard that 'amazing song from the end of the movie Donnie Darko.' Gonna kill a kid.

test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

'The Hurting,' I think, is the only good thing to ever have come from Janovian Scream Therapy.

test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Abbott, you've very nicely explained why the stupid ass Donnie Darko crap gets to me.

I really don't know how I feel about this album. I'm determined to listen to it again tonight. When I first bought it back in the day, I thought it was alright, but aside from Change (a masterpiece, really) it didn't leave any kind of lasting impression. I listened to it again once or twice in the last year and quite enjoyed it.

More Goth Than Your Grandmother (Bimble), Friday, 15 May 2009 17:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

'The Hurting,' I think, is the only good thing to ever have come from Janovian Scream Therapy.

See ye also "Mother" by the Plastic Ono Band

Alex in NYC, Friday, 15 May 2009 18:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

No, I meant what I said.

test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Friday, 15 May 2009 18:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

And you're mistaken

Alex in NYC, Friday, 15 May 2009 18:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

That is the original cover. The band shot was the US release

thanks for clearing this up....after 26 years
i thought thats a cheesy cover from a re-release xD

meisenfek, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

no matter how much i love their singles, i felt like i had to vote for an album track.

"It's the start of the Breakdown
I can't understand you"

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 May 2009 15:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

OK, i just listen to this coming to work, so good. it's actually a question "Is this the start of the breakdown?, I can't understand you."

anyways my top three non singles are:

1. Memories Fade
2. Start of the Breakdown
3. Watch Me Bleed

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 May 2009 16:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

Excellent choices! I love the title track the best tho.

test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Saturday, 16 May 2009 19:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 16 May 2009 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Memories Fade" iirc

umma doomie (Curt1s Stephens), Saturday, 16 May 2009 23:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

change.

good to see the anti DARKO feeling on here. blee.

piscesx, Sunday, 17 May 2009 04:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

I like donnie darko & "Mad World" just fine

umma doomie (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 17 May 2009 04:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I didn't mind that cover of "Mad World" either.

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 17 May 2009 11:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 17 May 2009 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

Surprised "Change" didn't do better. Who can argue with those xylophones?

Alex in NYC, Monday, 18 May 2009 00:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

Same here. But not embarrassed by the results.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 May 2009 00:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

I always loved that tune that closes "Real Genius" (something like "Everybody Wants to Rule the World", or something; yes, I'm incredibly lazy to look it up).

musicfanatic, Monday, 18 May 2009 00:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Pale Shelter was especially memorable, yes. But I'm embarassed that I didn't actually get too listen to this whole album again before voting. Sigh...shall do so right now.

More Goth Than Your Grandmother (Bimble), Monday, 18 May 2009 00:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

I have to say, I too prefer the "we're dour dudes who're looking at ducks" cover to the little brat cover.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 18 May 2009 00:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

The dour-ducks cover is funnier!

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 May 2009 00:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah actually, I don't mind the cover w/ the dudes on it. Reminds me of how the U2 Boy cover was changed for the US.

More Goth Than Your Grandmother (Bimble), Monday, 18 May 2009 02:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

"Ideas as Opiates" should have gotten at least one vote

this album is astonishing and as much as I love their later work, they never bettered this

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Saturday, 25 September 2010 03:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

not gonna deny "Pale Shelter" as an amazing song tho

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Saturday, 25 September 2010 03:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was repping for "The Hurting" then but the one that kills me now is "Memories Fade."

Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Saturday, 25 September 2010 05:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

as much as I love their later work, they never bettered this

^^

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 15:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

I couldn't believe they did "Watch Me Bleed" on the recent tour.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 25 September 2010 15:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Memories Fade" is my JAM!!! OMG what a song.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 25 September 2010 15:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Ideas as Opiates" should have gotten at least one vote

also "Suffer the Children" is another song that got robbed.

Bee OK, Sunday, 26 September 2010 04:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

I was in a store that had some Muzak stream of new wave hits going on, which of course was just fine with me, but they played the frigging sad hoodie guitar guy version of "Mad World" from Donnie Darko, from the wrong millennium for this radio feed, and not the Tears for Fears one. I felt less enraged four or so songs later when they played "Shout" but it still stings a little.

free inappropriate education (Abbbottt), Saturday, 28 May 2011 01:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

But that version of "Mad World" is really good, in fact when I saw the lads last year they played the original version as well as the sad hoodie one!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 28 May 2011 02:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ha, I guess I am too fussy to see beyond its context!

free inappropriate education (Abbbottt), Saturday, 28 May 2011 03:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

WAAAHL I FEEEE-EEEL
HOPELESSLY WEIGHED DOWN BY YOUR EYES OF STEEEEEEL

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 May 2011 03:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

this has to be one of the last threads that Bimble posted in. miss that guy, a lot. RIP

Bee OK, Saturday, 28 May 2011 05:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

How classic is The Hurting?

How overblown does everything afterwards sound upon first listen?

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I completely agree, although I think 'Songs From The Big Chair' is a great album also.

I'm very surprised that 'Pale Shelter' managed to take the poll by such a large amount, because I think there's a lot of great stuff on this album. I would have picked 'Suffer The Children' if I had been voting at the time.

Turrican, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:04 (six years ago) Permalink

M83's 'Reunion' has some truly remarkable rips of the Curt Smith backing vocal style.

piscesx, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 08:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Gonna buy all the CDs for pennies anyway and find out.

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:40 (six years ago) Permalink

everything post 'seeds of love' kind of follows the same template, which is a completely different psych-beatles-pop template, and not like the hurting at all. but, a lot of it is still pretty good.

akm, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 17:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Alfred you said something on one of these TFF threads (I can't find it right now) about how they were the best synthpop band to manage to both become huge and maintain their essential miserablism... was listening to "So" yesterday and was wondering how you fit Peter Gabriel into that equation cuz that album (apart from the two biggest singles obviously) is a total downer

“How you like that, Mr. Hitler!” (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Songs From The Big Chair and So are probably my favorite albums of '85 and '86 respectively, it was a very good time for sad stadium synths.

lana shel game (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 18:29 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm going to play this right now, "Memories Fade" always seems to be the highlight

Bee OK, Sunday, 22 January 2012 02:16 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Hmmm...

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/07/24/tears-for-fears-hurting-reissue-box-set/

The UK arm of Amazon.com currently features two bare-bones listings for The Hurting with no band name attached: a two-disc set on Mercury Records, the label that originally released the Tears For Fears debut, and a four-disc CD/DVD box set on Commercial Marketing, a reissue imprint of the Universal Music Group, Mercury’s parent company. Both versions are due out Oct. 7.

Earlier this year, some speculation on what could be included extra tracks wise:

http://theseconddisc.com/2013/03/07/reissue-theory-tears-for-fears-the-hurting-30th-anniversary-edition/

Disc 1: Original LP (originally released as Mercury MERS 17 (U.K.)/811 039-1 M-1 (U.S.), 1983) and B-sides

The Hurting
Mad World
Pale Shelter
Ideas As Opiates
Memories Fade
Suffer the Children
Watch Me Bleed
Change
The Prisoner
Start of the Breakdown
Wino (B-side to “Suffer the Children” - Phonogram IDEA 1, 1982)
Saxophones As Opiates (B-side to “Mad World” – Phonogram IDEA 3, 1982)
The Conflict (B-side to “Change” – Phonogram IDEA 4, 1983)
Disc 2: Bonus material

Suffer the Children (Single Version)
Pale Shelter (You Don’t Give Me Love) (Single Version)
The Prisoner (Single Version)
Ideas As Opiates (Single Version)
Change (New Version)
Suffer the Children (Remix)
Pale Shelter (You Don’t Give Me Love) (Extended Version)
Mad World (World Remix)
Change (Extended Version)
Pale Shelter (New Extended Remix)
Change (Live in Oxford)
Start of the Breakdown (Live in Oxford)
Disc 2, Tracks 1 released on Phonogram single IDEA 1, 1982
Disc 2, Tracks 2-3 released as Phonogram single IDEA 2, 1982
Disc 2, Track 4 released on Phonogram single IDEA 3, 1982
Disc 2, Tracks 5 and 9 released on Phonogram 12″ single IDEA 412, 1983
Disc 2, Track 6 released on Phonogram 12″ single IDEA 112, 1982
Disc 2, Track 7 released on Phonogram 12″ single IDEA 212, 1982
Disc 2, Track 8 released on Phonogram double 7″ single IDEA 33, 1982
Disc 2, Track 10 released on Phonogram 12″ single IDEA 512, 1983
Disc 2, Tracks 11-12 released on “The Way You Are” double 7″ single – Phonogram IDEA S6, 1983

Disc 3: DVD - In My Mind’s Eye and promo videos

Start of the Breakdown
Mothers Talk
Pale Shelter
The Working Hour
The Prisoner
Ideas As Opiates
Mad World
We Are Broken
Head Over Heels
Suffer the Children
The Hurting
Memories Fade
Change
All tracks recorded live at the Hammersmith Apollo, December 1983. Released on Music Media laserdisc 04 349-1 (U.K.), 1984

Promo videos:

Mad World
Change
Pale Shelter
Mad World (Top of the Pops, 1982)
Pale Shelter (Top of the Pops, 1983)

Again, speculation, but that certainly seems pretty comprehensive.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 18:43 (five years ago) Permalink

"The Hurting" (the song) is just a total jam to blast when you get home and need a few beers. just the best.

chinavision!, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 18:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I'll be buying it for the 5th time.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 20:30 (five years ago) Permalink

really want to listen to this album right now because of this bump. yeah if i did buy this it would probably be around the fourth time for me.

Bee OK, Thursday, 25 July 2013 01:39 (five years ago) Permalink

How the fuck did 'Pale Shelter' win this by so much?

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Thursday, 25 July 2013 01:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Blame Gary Jules

Mark G, Thursday, 25 July 2013 10:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Wicked xylophones, that's how.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 25 July 2013 14:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Nope. That's Change. Good question then.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 25 July 2013 14:56 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Big interview about the Hurting here:

http://thequietus.com/articles/13379-tears-for-fears-the-hurting-interview

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 20 September 2013 14:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Haven't read it yet but it looks great.

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 20 September 2013 14:33 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

And a lot of the above speculation was accurate:

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/tears-for-fears-the-hurting-four-disc-box-set-exclusive-details/

Disc 1 – The Hurting

The Hurting
Mad World
Pale Shelter (You Don’t Give Me Love)
Ideas As Opiates
Memories Fade
Suffer The Children
Watch Me Bleed
Change
The Prisoner
Start Of The Breakdown

Disc 2 – B-sides and Remixes

Suffer The Children (7″ Version)
Pale Shelter (You Don’t Give Me Love)
The Prisoner (B-side)
Ideas As Opiates (B-side)
Change (New Version)
Suffer The Children (Remix)
Pale Shelter (You Don’t Give Me Love) (Extended Version)
Mad World (World Remix)
Change (Extended Version)
Pale Shelter (Extended Version)
Suffer The Children (Instrumental)
Change (7″ Edit)
Wino (B-Side)
The Conflict (B-Side)
We Are Broken (B-Side)
Suffer The Children (Promo CD Version)

Disc 3 – Live Sessions (Box Set Only)

Peel Session 01.09.1982

1. Ideas As Opiates
2. Suffer The Children
3. The Prisoner
4. The Hurting

Jensen Session 20.10.1982

5. Memories Fade
6. The Prisoner
7. The Start Of The Breakdown
8. The Hurting

From ‘The Way You Are’ single

9. Start Of The Breakdown (Live)
10. Change (Live)

Disc 4 – DVD – In My Mind’s Eye – Live At Hammersmith Odeon (Box Set Only)

Start Of The Breakdown
Mothers Talk
Pale Shelter
The Working Hour
The Prisoner
Ideas As Opiates
Mad World
We Are Broken
Head Over Heels
Suffer The Children
The Hurting
Memories Fade
Change

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Meantime the Peel Sessions tracks have an official stream going

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/10/02/tears-for-fears-peel-session-1982-stream/

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

looking back at this, as it came up in the New Wave 80s series. i stand behind my vote of "Memories Fade." what a god damn brilliant album.

Bee OK, Thursday, 12 April 2018 01:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yep. The deluxe box set is great, I particularly enjoy the sessions versions after wearing out the original LP.

Note there's lots of little details about each track on disc 2 noted in this entry: https://www.discogs.com/Tears-For-Fears-The-Hurting/release/5009064 - the biggest mistake is they used "Broken Revisited" instead of "We Are Broken".

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 12 April 2018 13:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

Excellent album, although prefer the next two far more!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 12 April 2018 16:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

i re listened to this again last night. i want to change my vote to "Start of the Breakdown." i actually had a hard time deciding which side i liked better, side one has all the hits outside "Change" but side two is almost perfect. in fact when it ended i played side 1 again, something i never do.

Bee OK, Friday, 13 April 2018 00:32 (eight months ago) Permalink


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